Army man explains MOH operatives
Tier 1s do what "no one else can handle".
The army has explained to Eurogamer that Medal of Honor's Tier 1 soldiers really are the best of the best, and "take on missions that no one else can handle".
"The Tier concept originates from Hostage Rescue Ability and has mutated to include all kinds of stuff. Around 1995 it was based on the amount of time a unit spent conducting Hostage Rescue and Direct Action. The Tier 1 teams would only do this sort of operation," relayed a source, unearthed by former British army Major Neil Powell.
"Standard" Tier 2 teams were made up of SEAL, MARSOC (United States Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command), SF (Special Forces) and Ranger forces. Tier 1 was reserved for JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) and FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) soldiers.
"Support personnel such as counter intelligence and intelligence are not Tier anything," the source added, probably hurting their feelings.
Tier 1 soldiers, as we mentioned earlier, answer to the National Command Authority. This is a term used by the US military and government to refer to the ultimate lawful source of military orders - the top of the chain. Up there the President and the Secretary of Defense call the shots and Jack Bauer answers.
Announced this week, EA's new Medal of Honor puts players in the sandpaper-lined boots of a Tier 1 soldier as they operate in Afghanistan.
The soldier on the front of Medal of Honor's box was discovered to bear an uncanny resemblance to real-life soldier "Cowboy". Is he a real Tier 1 fighter? He's got a nice beard.
EA Los Angeles has been tasked with the single-player, while Battlefield creator EA DICE will sculpt multiplayer.
Deployment is pencilled for autumn 2010.
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So who are you? Are you, you, like, some special forces guy or something?
Casey Ryback:
Nah. I'm just a cook.
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But despite my cynical post I still have high hopes for this game.
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bagsy be Fraser
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Is there oil in Afghanistan? I forget. Is it oil or uranium in that neck of the world?
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edit: that answers both questions !
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[to replies...there are active and passive participators, if you want to sit back and take it all in, be my guest - puns intended]
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Then, if so, why are Medal of Honour and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 both allowed to contain missions set in present day Afghanistan?
Is that not exactly the same thing?
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You can, erm... you know, choose not to read the article.
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Well 'ard.
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Apart from just about every other special forces unit in the world such as the SAS, etc. Besides, if they are such fucking awesome supersoldiers, why are Iraq and Afghanistan still such a mess?
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Ah, but you are of course forgetting Tier-ry Henry, who can handle pretty much anything he wants and get away with it.
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Either way, they're extra secret that nobody knows about them, supposedly...
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Er they've been in the news on a few occasions. Even going so far as to ask Bush whether he was sending them in to retrieve some hostages at some point (yea I know it's Obama now but, I remember the Bush incident when they were mentioned).
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Saying they're SF or 'super' SF or whatever os over-simplifying. It's not just quality, but the role and special-to-arm training involved. Units like Rangers or USMC SF are really more elite infantry than anything else and tend to play a role in more conventional warfare type scenarios - gathering battlefield intelligence, recconaisance, sabotage and ambushes, directing artillery fire or designating targets for airstrikes etc.
Tier 1 units do these things too but are also trained and used for more strategic, rather than tactical, purposes that often have a direct political element. Taskings include training and/or working clandestinly with local forces (i.e. the Kurds in Iraq or the former Northern Alliance in Afghanistan) and activities that are more like espionage than warfighting. Capturing and interrogating enemy VIPs, surveillance, working with members of the intelligence services, stuff like that. They are pretty far from the green army in terms of roles.
Basically EA are going more for that whole 'Black Ops' angle. More like the SAS bits in CoD4 and less like the marines stuff.
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Even among Special forces, there are those that would be considered the best of the best.
As for why Iraq and Afghanistan are such messes, remember that there are a limited amount of these men and possibly women, and they can only go where they are ordered. Bin Ladin would probably be in a US cell by now if soldiers on the ground had been given the free reign to do what was needed back in 2001/2002.
If you want to know why Iraq and Afghanistan are a mess, blame rumsfield for overriding the generals advice.
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anomagnus: How do you consider who's the best of the best? I mean, it seems pretty arbitrary. I'm not saying they are not, just saying it's hard to know. Is there some "Special Forces World Cup" I do not know of?
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I was being facetious. I am pretty familiar with US and UK OOB.
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I'd love to see a Dad's Army game. Or maybe Allo Allo? The player, as Rene, must balance running a cafe, hiding his adulterous affairs, AND protect the British airmen from both General von Klinkerhoffen and Herr-Flick! There's room for business management and dating sim AND unarmed stealth sections!!
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"Jordan Tate:
So who are you? Are you, you, like, some special forces guy or something?
Casey Ryback:
Nah. I'm just a cook. "
You Sir, win the internets. All of them.
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Instead of choosing a class, you can choose to be a character. Godfrey would be a healer, but he'd move slowly and has to be excused every ten minutes. Mainwaring is short and nearsighted but has the ability to get out of a scrap if the situation calls for it, Jones would be an expert with the bayonet and able to drive the van, but commands from other players would reach him two seconds later than everyone else and occasionally he hallucinates about being in the sudan, putting it right up the fuzzywuzzies, Walker would be able to get his hands on rare equipment, and Frazer would just be an all-out badass.
Private Sponge could be totally useless, as an easter egg.
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ORIGINAL GAMES PLEASE.