Home won't be an anti-climax, says Hirai
"I've been personally dinged many times."
Sony Computer Entertainment boss Kaz Hirai has promised new PS3 service Home will be worth the wait.
It was supposed to launch last October, but a series of delays followed and now the service is due to go live this autumn. Speaking to the factweaving newsforgers over at GamesIndustry.biz, Hirai dismissed suggestions there could be an anti-climax when Home finally arrives.
"I would put it the other way around," he said. "Because we got so much buzz, had we launched it before we thought it was the right time and the right features and functionality to launch it - with the high anticipation, people would go there in droves the first time around, they would check it out and say, 'This isn't fun at all, so I'm not coming back again."
Hirai said there are no regrets about the decision to delay Home - despite the endless, ah, dinging that's been going on.
"Okay, we've been dinged, I've been personally dinged many times," he confessed. "But if I know we're doing it for the right reasons and that once we launch the service this fall it's going to be something that the consumers, once they go there, see that it's actually going to be a fun service. That to me is a lot better than doing it the other way around."
And, he added, Sony is keen to avoid yet more dinging in the future. "I've said this on many occasions, and right now we're aiming for a fall open beta programme, but no beta should be opened before its time. It's important enough of an initiative for the platform and for SCE, that we don't want to prematurely launch it and then be dinged for having a bad service."
Stop the dinging. The DINGING MUST STOP. The full interview is on GamesIndustry.biz.
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at this stage it will probably be better than expected as no-one really seems to expect that it will any good to begin with
/paradox
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edit - bah, beaten to it
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Wait ... what are we talking about?
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The PS3 needs games first, then they can mince about making second life.
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blig_merk, any group of people planning their strategy before going online for a game really needs to get outside of their own home let alone stay inside Sony's home
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I'm greatly looking forward to Home. Together with LBP, and the already excellent Buzz and Singstar and PSN offerings, it should give Sony a right boost in the casual market as well as in general.
That said, I can't resist this:
"dinged dong, said the clock"
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The trouble is that Sony have completely fracked up the marketing for it. HUGE promises followed by even bigger delays are not good ideas. Perhaps what Sony should have done is either kept quiet longer, or maybe focused on one or two aspects of home for quick release, and built the service up from there. For instance they could have allowed people avatars and rooms - and the option to explore friends' rooms - and added the community stuff bit by bit.
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That's still a really shitty list of exclusives though, it does your argument no favours at all.
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A prison with hundreds of bars of super slippery soap.
Needless to say, I got proper dinged.
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haha join the TA. You can also play Pool, Chess and bowling against real people in a infinite polygon world right outside your door. Or inside if you have a chess set or are rich enough to own a pool table. or bowling alley.
I get bored waiting for the loading screen to finish, let alone loading up a completely different app and wandering around talking strategy before you can play. I fail to see what a virtual room in a virtual environment outside of the game itself can give you that simply chatting in an online lobby can't. Other than a boner at the graphics and web 2.0-ness of it all.
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CONSOLE SELLING TITLE!
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Sony Boss in "the online 3D facebook we've bet the company on won't be shit" shocker!!!!!
Unfortunately I think that for the vast majority of people who even find out about it and then can be bothered to actually install and use it, it will be a brief novelty.
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Something about fighting shadows and promises.
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The trouble is that Sony have completely fracked up the marketing for it.
Technically, they haven't even started marketing it yet. People who frequent games websites have been following the news stories, but the audience Home is aimed at certainly won't give a toss when it was announced or how long it was delayed.
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Will hoard any free stuff I can get from vendors also. How many free "virtual" Nike trainers will fit in my apartment?
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I have only two, kind of related issues with home - Firstly, the people that tend to use these sorts of places won't be necessarily PS3 owners (at the moment) and two who the FUCK wants to socialise with people like Blig!
Edit: Because it annoys blig...
...(Spelling really)
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Shemale whose nads stink of smeg.
A sick person who buggers all kinds of furry animals.
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Er, because you brought up the shocking news that you can play games that were already invented hundreds of years ago, except online in a virtual environment.
Sony's problem seems to be that they're quite confused about who Home is actually for. As a Second Life competitor i'm sure it will be good because Second Life looks like shit (althought here's a great deal to be said for user created content as opposed to micro-transaction customisation), but are fans of that kind of thing going to shell out that much money to experience it? Not many.
As an online hub for gaming, it seems kind of redundant, I don't know many gaming fans who give a shit about it. How many people have you played Battlefield against in a random online server who were insterested in talking tactics or socialising after the game? Trophies? Achievements more like. Most people don't care about those either, not enough to go for a walk around a virtual town to look at them, a list is fine, thanks.
ps. Judging by the reduction in the quality of your spelling and grammar, blig, I can envision you angrily bashing away at your keyboard, your face getting redder and redder as you try to convince people of something they just don't care about, and it is making me lol.
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One of the most retarded internet "words" ever created. It was created by an eleven year school girl while she was chit-chatting with her adult friend. It is often used by emo boys who are in touch with their feminine side.
I love this site, however who comes up with definitions like that?!
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PS3LOL
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ROFLOL!!! Says it all really! And you failed on that count too!
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That was a joke right?....right?
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well the term doesn't exist yet. However, if we split it into Space and Midget we have:
Space
the final frontier
Midget
A special human created by God so that pedophiles would have something legal to play with.
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Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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But, shouldn't this be in a game in the first place? And as I have discovered with years and years of playing tactical games, as soon as you start a new level the tactics need changing. Doesn't that render your example completely and utter useless?
Just saying.
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Rash ruins are chat and message boards with his racial slurs and redundant slanders."
Just thought I'd get it out the way. ;o)
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"What harm is there in someone setting up a little bragging room with a few virtual representations of them? "
GO OUTSIDE.
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blig
irish: mentally retarded person. onomatopaeic from the sound they make when trying to speak.
merk
means to kill, or murder.
sorry, couldn't resists
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I don't frequent here, I occasionally come here to mock mentally retarded people for fun.
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Do you think they made up D-Day as they went along? or the bombing of Afghanistan? Or iraq?
No, they planned it first.
That's the point. "
Why do you always do this? I try and make a sensible point and you completely miss it and then use an ridiculous example to try and prove your point.
Read this slowly:
Of course they didn't make up D-Day as they went along! They would have had one discussion about D-Day and one discussion about the attack on Berlin. In COD4 you would need one discussion for Sabotage and then on the next round you would need a completely different discussion about Domination IN THE LOBBY!
THAT'S THE POINT!
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/logs off until september.
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When you load a new level, tactics change, therefore something outside of the game isn't that useful.
When you load a new level, tactics change, therefore something outside of the game isn't that useful.
When you load a new level, tactics change, therefore something outside of the game isn't that useful.
When you load a new level, tactics change, therefore something outside of the game isn't that useful.
When you load a new level, tactics change, therefore something outside of the game isn't that useful.
Keep reading it until you get it.
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Starts going about fucking D-Day and me missing his point about my point...blah blah blah
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Seriously, who the SHITTING HELL wants to do that? 99% of people just want to run around shooting people, then change sides and do it again. Nobody wants to have a MEETING inbetween rounds. Can you imagine trying to organise tactics for 32 or 128 random players in a chatroom with open mikes? It's simply never going to work outside a hardcore few, and even then they'd have to practically be playing the games professionally to even care! Come on, it's a game!
Strategy in an online FPS or whatever usually comes down to someone saying in the lobby 'right we need to do this better.' and then they go and do it. I'm sorry if you want to spend 15 minutes inbetweeneach game teaching the learnings of Sun Tsu to the rest of your team so you can win an entirely pointless online battle, but NOBODY ELSE in the WHOLE WORLD is like you.
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You mean like this Lollers
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Yeah, that was the other 1%. Maybe it's more than that, but it's far, far from the majority.
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Indeed
Anyway.. Home might work.. but Sony need to target it to the social non-gamer crowd... it won't do a lot of useful stuff for gamers I reckon. These kind of lobby systems for games have almost never worked in the past. A simple 2D startup screen with chat usually does the trick.
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An animal with the head of a deer, the wings of an eagle, and the body of a beagle.
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an unstable person. It could be physically or mentally.
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PS3
One of the ugliest consoles ever made. Offering wireless dildos for controllers and the console looks like the next George Foreman grill. Made by a company (Sony) that puts spyware in their music CD's that makes peoples computers vulnerable to virus'. Sony also has ilegally advertised their PSP in Chicago by paying someone to make graffiti drawings about the PSP on city walls without permision. Also demostrating anti-360 propaganda by paying its Koyeo employees to spread rumors about the xbox 360 freezing, scratching discs etc. Sony is one of the most dishonest companies, they're are always using disgusting business tactics to bring down their more honest competitors such as Sega. There is always a big gap between what Sony says about their consoles, and what they actually show (such as E3, when they used a computer to make those graphics and say it was their PS3. Sony says other consoles break and explode, but dont mention that over 3 million of their sold PS2's broke, or the fact that a majority of their PSP's have an extremely low battery or dead pixels on the extremely sensitive screen that Sony charges $100.00 to repair.
John: Hey I got me a PS2
Larry: Sweet I got a PSP
John: Cool, but mine isn't working
Larry: Mine has a couple of dead pixels and scratches on the screen.
John: Did you try getting yours fixed?
Larry: Yeah, but Sony wanted me to pay $100.00 to get it repaired.
John: Yeah me too!!!
Larry: Should we still get a PS3?
John: Nah, the controllers look like dildos.
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haha yeah that about sums it up. I have enough meetings at work, I don't want to have more at home with people I don't know, whose voices I don't like. But Hey, I guess some people love that shit, and kudos to Sony for spending millions of dollars catering to that very small minority. tbh, the only thing they could have done to make it better would be to have some kind of special peripheral to control Home. Maybe a kind of artificial arm like Tresspasser...Actually, that would be brilliant.
Can you link your PSP up so you can be playing a game on the PS3 while simultaneously be in Home on the PSP?
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The Xbox 360 is so fucking lame.
ps3 is so much better and has more things on
it then the xbox does. so in your face.
Tony: Dued wtf im going to get a ps3
Larry: Dued xbox360 is so much better
:
Tony: WHAT NOW BITCH
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That's what I thought. You're gonna get fanboyed now though.
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Someone on the ignore list.
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The problem a lot of people have with Home is that in the past, and currently, Sony are terrible at online. PS2 online was horrific, and the PS3 was crippled for some time, and still lacks some basic functionality. Right now, saying that Home is going to be great and is a brave step forward taking gaming somewhere new is a bit like betting on a 3 legged horse because it has nice hairand a man in the stable said they'd been feeding it special food made of gold and ampthemines that costs $1000 a gram.
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I wrote : I actually like the idea of chatting tactics before a game with a map overview and virtual pointy sticks to push virtual cardboard figures around. Seriously.
But, shouldn't this be in a game in the first place?
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The first time I had sex (like when I lost my virginity and all) it was a big anti-climax. The reason for that was because I talked about it to much with my mates (plus all that porn had a detrimental effect as well). So when it came to the actual "act" I had a lot of expectations (and positions to go through). But it was over like within a few minutes. I think the reason for that was the hype surrounding it in the first place.
So what I am trying to say is that Hirai can say what he wants. As far as I am concerned home will be an anti-climax. simply because of what I just wrote.
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LOL
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I was very, very drunk.
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Anyway, blig, RFOM, Everquest, Warhawk. You make a compelling argument.
What they could have done is integrated actual content that has some value into Home, rather than pissy casual games. Perhaps you could wander into a room and play Buzz, that would be good. Although that would make the actual Buzz game itself entirely redundant. Or maybe you could tune into GTTV in your home, that might be interesting...although you would be watching a real TV programme on a virtual TV on your real TV, you could just watch Dave instead.
Have they said anything about streaming live video of games in progress into Home? Like watching a live Gran Turismo race on a big screen in Home?
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Can I make the obvious joke here? Please? Please?
EDIT: (The joke being that home would be empty NOT that it would filter you out Blirk before you get your knickers in a twist)
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"Personally, I am hoping Homehas enough filtering and reporting that the idiots can be removed without any detrement to my experience of the world.. "
If they did that, there'd be no-one left to play against!
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What a mess.
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'Right now, saying that Home is going to be great and is a brave step forward taking gaming somewhere new is a bit like betting on a 3 legged rocking horse.
fixed.
Seriously, guys. I'm happy just to wait until the PS3 has finally been finished in 2010, while trying it out on my friends console, before making a choice of whether to buy it for £199.
In the meantime I'll be over here playing video games on my 360.
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blig_merk gets tosser of the week award and takes the crown from his socks / mates:
Apologie
Headbog
Swam
Banfoi
I'm sure you'll all have fun together in Home playing Killzone 2.
Your whole argument against corroonb was based on slating him for not liking games that don't exist, but have mediocre prequels.
Sad indeed. Many people just don't like the PS3 (for good reasons), or trust Sony to deliver decent, gamer focused content. They've had plenty of opportunity over the past 4 years to remedy this view, and have dropped the ball continually.
I'll be HAPPY to see Sony deliver with Home and see some amazing PS3 games over the next year. Problem is, I'm not willing to invest this time until it HAPPENS. So far - it HASN'T.
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I can sum up how much of a fucking hypocrite he is with one quote from his post:
" So Halo is better than Resistence"
I mentioend RFOM 2 - which you havent played yet.
" Fable is better than Folklore"
You havent played Fable 2 yet, so how do you know.
So he can use RFOM 2 in his argument but you can't use Fable 2! What fucking joke.
Just to seal the deal...
Halo 3, Gears of War yet dismiss Killzone 2 and RFOM
He's quite happy to use KZ2 here even though it's not out. He's comparing two of the best games on the 360 with an above average launch title and a game based on a pile of shit!
PS3 owners still going on about what WILL happen. And you wonder why we're all in here laughing at you.
We like the games on the 360 that's why we bought one. Strangely Ico and SotC are two of my top games EVER so you can fuck off saying we're tearing strips out of the PS3 for no reason. Why would we? Think about it. It's sensible criticism and the only reason it descends so far is it's patently obvious to most people that you're a fanboy and can't help commenting on anything against your precious Playstation.
I've complemented KZ2 on this very site from what I've seen of it and if it makes you happy there are TWO games that interest me on the PS3 and always have...TrIco and FFXIII. Oh wai...
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If that's true then that's the first useful feature I've heard re Home.
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"Retarded" is my worst Net-word, seemingly used in every forum post by shit-thick American kids along with "insane".
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The next generation doesn't start until we say it does.
Some have said that the PSP is our answer to the (Nintendo) Game Boy. Well, here’s how we view the world: PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto and Sony is the only company that can do it. We happily accept this challenge and, dare I say it, the baton has been passed.
We're not interested in gimmicks, clever rhetoric or conventional thinking.
& who can forget... Riiiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!!!!!
I enjoy seeing Kaz on stage, he always says some VERY entertaining things
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