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Eidos Montreal boss Stephane D'Astous has said Deus Ex 3 will be built on the Tomb Raider: Legend engine.
Working with other Eidos studios like Crystal Dynamics (and IO Interactive) is a big plus for him, as it provides a solid foundation to quickly build upon. However, D'Astous is also adamant this game will not be rushed, but spend a regular two years in development.
"We chose the Crystal engine because we plan to help develop this engine more and then share it back with the rest of the company, the other Eidos studios." Stephane D'Astous told Develop.
"Having that technology from the start gives us a great advantage and foundation for our coders - there are no doubts about the approach, and we have few uncertainties."
Deus Ex 3 will be the first title Eidos Montreal has developed, before it moves on to another existing Eidos IP and then embarks on an original project.
It's taking the resurrection of the action role-playing FPS whatever series very seriously too, and looking to the cherished first instalment for inspiration.
"Deus Ex 3 is an incredible title to be working on, and will also help us attract talent. Real gamers, serious gamers. It's a big mandate we have received - and we take it very seriously," continued D'Astous.
"We have done our homework and we have done a lot of research into it. Our proof of concept was approved last month on our first try - I think we've impressed our colleagues back in the UK."
Deus Ex was released in 2000 and is considered by many to be among the finest games on PC ever. Clearly you are all forgetting about first-person shooter The Mark and its - we kid you not - exploding terrorist enemies.
Deus Ex 3 will be available on PC, 360 and PS3. And you can get a glimpse of the very first trailer over on Eurogamer TV.
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JediMasterMalik
03/12/07 @ 10:15
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I could think of a few engins off the top of my head I'd rather they use. Source, Gamebryo, hell, even UE3.
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/Resigned sigh
Oh well, I held out hope for a few minutes there. I know graphics are far from the be all and end all but come on! 2 years of development down the line this is going to look terrible. Gameplay IS the most important factor but graphics can/do help create a deeper sense of immersion. It doesnt have to be crysis but something on par graphically (especially 2yrs from now) with Unreal 3 would have to be minimum. lets also hope that whatever it turns out like visually that it will be well optimised for each platform.
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I dunno, i kinda like this decision. The Crystal engine looks fantastic for the amount of resources it uses and in my experience it's rock solid. It'll obviously be modified, i just hope those modifications don't come with unreasonable performance penalties. Besides i'm sick of having to upgrade my PC to play the latest FPS.
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NthSimulachum
03/12/07 @ 10:36
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Meh, as long as its well written, they could use the Quake engine for all I care.
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GamesConnoisseur
03/12/07 @ 10:36
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Deus Ex the first one wasnt exactly using ground breaking graphics even in its own time as I recall. Which we would prefer if they spend chuck of money on getting licence for the engine or using their own resource and thus spending far more money into the development of the game?
I just hope that the design work would get the most of the budget! |
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Triggerhappytel
03/12/07 @ 10:41
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Won't the TR: Legend engine be beyond dated by the time this game is due for release?! Not that I'm a graphics whore or anything, but next to Crysis, Bioshock, Far Cry 2, whatever else is out by then, this is going to look incredibly archaic.
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I think all the haters need to go and learn what an "engine" really is - they can merrily bin all the graphics stuff and update them while still being "based on a modified Legend engine".
They can keep stuff like memory management, net code, file structure etc etc etc. There is absolutely no reason why they can't just add a shitload more polys and boost texture detail and the end result doesn't have to look like (what will then be) a three-year old game. Why would you spend 2 years and millions of dollars producing a game that (if the haters are to be believed) would look sub-par if it was released *today* ?? Have a little more faith, y'all |
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Mentalist(air)
03/12/07 @ 10:59
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I think the most interestig thing about this is that (ever since Legacy of Kain on PS1) Crystal Dynamics engines have supported continuous streaming of their game worlds. It's funny, but though Tomb Raider: Anniversary is split up into distinct levels, each of the four world-locations are fully interconnected.
Their engine works much better for that sort of thing than the likes of Unreal does (though maybe not gamebryo, I suppose). A developer making a Deus-Ex game from scratch with the knowledge that they can have huge, seamless worlds from the beginning of development, could do some very interesting things... |
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I thought the Crystal engine looked quite nice and with some work should make some nice visual, better then UE3 sameo lighting.
Playing Mass effect the other day and out doors grassy section just look like your playing oblivian!! While the UE3 engine is good it seems a little ridiged, getting bored of everything looking the same! |
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It's worth remembering that when Half Life came out, it was based on a "modified" Quake engine, and shat all over it from a great height.
No reason this can't do the same. To be honest, I'd rather they use an engine that they squeeze the most performance out of, rather than using something that takes a team of highly trained programmer ninjas 24 months to get 15fps out of, and then ships too early to be any good. |
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SlackMaster
03/12/07 @ 11:01
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Ohh... Deus Ex on Wii... that would be excellent.
But I'm happy enought ot get it on 360.
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PearOfAnguish
03/12/07 @ 11:40
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So what?
They could make in ASCII for all I care, so long as it's well written. |
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groovychainsaw
03/12/07 @ 11:42
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Yeah, the original was on a modded version of the unreal (1!) engine and due to protracted dev time, already looked dated when it came out. But that just let them spend so much more time on atmosphere and gameplay....
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from the Tomb Raider Legend review
"But one thing that's simply unacceptable is the sludgy frame rate that seems to follow the game like a bad smell throughout." if this is what they are planning as the workhorse for DX3.. bear in mind the additional load required for ai, npcs, etc..they had better give it a complete overhaul.. |
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kangarootoo
03/12/07 @ 13:41
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Was going to write something about engines here, but The_Pope said it all really.
And as others have said, spending money of the development of the game is probably a better idea than chucking half the budget at licensing some posh bit of tech that will only run on 10% of the PCs out there. |
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Grogmonkey
03/12/07 @ 14:41
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I fondly remember Anachronox on the ol' PC. A troubled development period meant that the game looked really dated when it was finally released. Didn't stop it being a really, really great adventure RPG. And based on the original Quake engine, fiendishly out of date by that point.
Here's hoping it'll be aces. Really need to get another excellent Deus Ex game. And then kick EA up the ass to get System Shock 3 out. |
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also, you people whining about the engine: Shut up. I'm willing to wager none of you are software engineers and you know fuck-all about how this stuff works, all you think 'olol tomb raider legend is teh old, it will sux and be ugly'. No. Engines get updated. Look at the Source Engine for proof of this. Call of Duty 4 was built on the same old engine as CoD 2, if I'm not mistaken. etc etc.
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@ the pope - Would just like to clarify that we (well, me at least) are not "haters" Just concerned gamers venting our fears for a beloved franchise. Fair enough regarding your comment about the engine, not all here may be aware of such facts. It cannot be ignored though that this will have to be a HEAVILY modded engine to appeal at a visual level by the time it is released (presuming it isnt delayed too much). I think most people here feel the same that graphics arent the be all and end all of a game but they sure are nice and would help promote a greater atmosphere if done right and done well (eg: good art direction - some last gen games look breathtaking still and there were much less polys in those, that way you can get away with using a, lets say more dated engine). At the end of the day none of us know what its going to turn out like and we can but pray they dont cock it up.
ps: excuse poor grammer as im in a rush to get the hell out of work. |
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@dudefella - Yeah, the three year old Source Engine runs great on the 360... without any anti-aliasing or texture filtering so it makes Half-Life 2 look little better than an upscaled Xbox game, and the the COD4 one can't even manage to run in hi-def. OK, so the latter still looks pretty good admittedly but Half-Life 2 certainly doesn't, it looks passable but dated compared with something like BioShock or The Darkness. IMO. ;)
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