Sony: Over 4.1 million Moves sold

By Wesley Yin-Poole Published 30 November, 2010

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

Just hours after Microsoft announced 2.5 million sales of Kinect, rival Sony has announced 4.1 million sales of PlayStation Move.

Move's done the business in the two months since its September release.

The 4.1 million number is accurate as of November 2010 and reflects global sales, Sony said. It does not include sales of the stand-alone PlayStation Eye camera or the stand-alone PlayStation Move navigation controller. The Eye is required to use Move.

There are more than 25 supported or dedicated Move games available to buy in Europe. Sony listed Sports Champions, Start the Party, EyePet Move Edition, MAG and SingStar Dance as "successful titles".

More than 41.6 million PlayStation 3 consoles have been sold across the globe.

While Sony has so far refrained from predicting sales figures for its motion controller, Microsoft has committed to selling five million Kinect units before the end of the year. It's on track to do so, the US giant said.

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  • 00.00.01 #1 1 year ago

    Wii....over XX.000.000 units sold and still counting!!
    (insert random 'my-e-penis-is-bigger-than-yours' comment here)

  • retr0gamer #2 1 year ago

    Sold or shipped Sony?

  • Dizzy #3 1 year ago

    Highly unlikely.

  • tossetaz #4 1 year ago

    Parents! If you think your kid might be interested in Kinect, get them to check it out on Megaton.co.uk, our gaming site for kids.

    Shouldn't that be Move?

  • Shikasama #5 1 year ago

    Shipped = Sold as far as Sony is concerned.

  • chuck_bone #6 1 year ago

    Dont forget that you have many more people buying more than 1 MOve - as two player and dual weild requires that you have multiple Moves!

    However, this is impressive nonetheless, especially as it has nothing like the hype surrounding it that the Kinect does, nor the software line up.



  • captain_Carl #7 1 year ago

    Lol this is getting fun.

  • feistycheese #8 1 year ago

    Actually, they are pretty good figures. I didnt expect either the Move or Kinect to do have done well so quickly, and even scoffed at the predictions that either would sell 5 million by Xmas, so I am happy to slap my own head and say 'DOH'.

    Sony must be very happy with those figures, especially considering the lower cost of development and marketing in comparison to Microsoft with the Kinect.

  • NotSoSlim #9 1 year ago

    Why unlikely?

    People who may have the camera and have just bought the controller its only Ł35 plus they have been clear its for controller or starter pack only.

    Also people nay be buying 2 controllers instead...also doesn't the article say sold so if people are questioning the figure as shipped then why not question the kinect figures?
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 14:58

  • Bleemo #10 1 year ago

    "so I am happy to slap my own head and say 'DOH'. "

    Then kindly do this instant at your PC chair. I sort of agree though I did feel that the 5 million figure was optimisitc but it seems Move will perhaps surpass that number. Hopefully this will encourage more devs to mod their games to support it.

  • Scopeh #11 1 year ago

    @retr0gamer

    Not once in the article does it say shipped...clearly states 'Sold', and just for you i will give the definition of 'Sold' just so you understand it- Sold=Having disposed of or remitted ownership of an item to another party in exchange for money or value. When an item is sold there will be one party acting as a seller and another party acting as the purchaser.

  • GamesConnoisseur #12 1 year ago

    Good for both Move and Kinect, got Move for a while and will be likely getting Kinect sometimes in the future but....


    Like 5th Cell am a LOTTA MORE excited about 3DS upcoming release next year!

  • Skooch #13 1 year ago

    /raises head above rampart

    Can I just say now that Move and Kinect figures are not really comparable. Move requires many more small units to support multiplayer whereas Kinect is a all-in-one solution.

    /ducks down into trenches

    EDIT: Wow, negged to death for what exactly? stating the obvious truth?

    /confused
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:21

  • slippysloppy #14 1 year ago

    Am genuinely surprised considering the lack of games. I have move and the only use I've found for it is playing Heavy Rain again.

  • jarek98 #15 1 year ago

    At least in Europe Moves shipped = Moves sold as there are constant shortages in most shops.

  • Vyggo #16 1 year ago

    That's quite impressive actually. They should've said "signiificantly more than 4 million" though, that always leaves more room for fun speculation. Or maybe even "we are closing in on the 5 million mark".

    The .1 in 4.1 sounds a little like they had to scrape the barrel to come up with an impressive number.

  • carrotcake #17 1 year ago

    I have a Move and not Kinect yet but there's no comparison. Kinect is a lot more clever and groundbreaking, tracking all the parts of your body whereas Move is a regular camera following a ball. It's a wii controller type thing versus a motion capture system without the mo cap suit. I had fun on my friend's Kinect making my avatar copy my squats, kicks, attempts at dancing on a one to one sort of relationship. So I don't think sales comparisons really matter... Kinect is like a generation ahead, and priced very differently.

  • Lee_Morris #18 1 year ago

    It's good to get a confirmation on the sales of the Move want itself, although keep in mind I imagine a few people like myself would have bought 2. Still impressive if it's actually sold to the customer.

  • Arwin #19 1 year ago

    Those here complaining about software to use Move with are pretty ... daft? There is so far WAAAAAY more interesting stuff to do with Move than with Kinect!

    Check this list here:
    http://www.gamesl ist.iwaggle3d.com/

  • natashaspice #20 1 year ago

    I'm still bitching over amazon uk putting the price up those cunts!! Not buying at 40 quid. That said their must be a reason they put up the price maybe it's selling quite alot don't know really.
    Ps I'm talking about the stand alone move controller. But good sales figure none the less.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 15:23

  • Arwin #21 1 year ago

    "It does not include sales of the stand-alone PlayStation Eye camera or the stand-alone PlayStation Move navigation controller."

    If we assume 1.5 Moves per PS Eye, then in strict terms of installbase Kinect is already very close to Move. Though on the other hand from the looks of the online hacking stuff, there may be a fair few people with a PC buying this thing ... :D

    This coming by the way from a big Move fanboy (who has a 360, but no interest in Kinect as of yet).

  • jag10 #22 1 year ago

    thats without oprah.

  • PixelPirate #23 1 year ago

    decent number from both parties, above what we could have expected.

    Does put Kinect numbers in perspective though, plenty of units out there for both to get decent game support moving forward.

  • Gaiduku #24 1 year ago

    ooh thats 10% of Ps3 owners!!

  • alimokrane #25 1 year ago

    They are both selling well and so is the Wii still ....so let's just be happy and get along nicely.... will we?

  • FogHeart #26 1 year ago

    It's impressive, but the Killer App for Move isn't with us yet. Depending on what kind of gamer you are, that's either Little Big Planet 2 or Killzone 3 (or both!). It's a shame that neither of these got in before Christmas - it would massively increase the incentive to get Move as a present. Right now the software to motivate people to buy Move is there, but it's not overwhelming.

  • retr0gamer #27 1 year ago

    @Scopeh

    No point telling me what sold means. I know perfectly well the definition of it. I just highly doubt Sonys sales figures and if you have a memory stretching back a few years you will remember Sony reporting PS3 shipped firgures as sold figures when it wasn't selling terribly well and shops had tonnes of PS3 consoles piled up in the back rooms. I just wish there was a bit more jounalism going on instead of quoting press releases.

  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #28 1 year ago

    By sold they mean sold to retailers but thats still good, its not like retailers would be making orders if they still had plenty of stock.

  • Spydy #29 1 year ago

    Yay. It's all good. Although I've found myself not using Move of late. Maybe this is down to GT5 or whatever, but the magic has worn off a little. SOCOM and K3 should be fun.

  • influenceuk #30 1 year ago

    SCE Board Meeting...
    A - We need to talk about sales of PS3 and Move, what shall we do?
    B - Make up a number, thats how many PS Moves we sold...
    A - But wait what about PS3 systems?
    B - Times it by 10?
    A - Good call!

  • Widge #31 1 year ago

    THAT WAS SO FUNNY AND CLICHE FREE

  • Beano #32 1 year ago

    "We have a big penis!"
    "We have a bigger one"
    "No, ours are bigger now"
    "No way, we have a even bigger one."
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:03

  • Spydy #33 1 year ago

    They have SOLD to retailers, which from a business perspective is great. Also, Sony CANNOT simply make figures up. It's illegal to do so.

    Granted, 4.1 million moves aren't necessarily in peoples homes...I'd say -1million from that total, maximum. Still, the numbers are impressive.

  • Machiavellian #34 1 year ago

    By sold they mean sold to retailers but thats still good, its not like retailers would be making orders if they still had plenty of stock.

    That is true but what it also means is retailer are stocking up for Christmas. I highly doubt anyone will make the conclusion shipped to retailers is a better measurement then sold to consumers. That shipped number might be there for a while depending on demand. It is a good indicator that Sony will probably sell that many units by the end of the year but getting an understanding of how many unique units sold to customers will be cloudy. Anyway, I have move so I am looking for it to sell big so more developers support the device.

    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:19

  • man.the.king #35 1 year ago

    It's really interesting how many of the people doubting whether Sony can sell something quite well are SUDDENLY enthusiastic supporters when it's Microsoft claiming something sells well.

    For these people, Sony is lying, greedy, arrogant while Microsoft is angelic, truthful, honest and caring about gamers.

    /shaking my head at the hypocrisy of these posters

  • Goodfella #36 1 year ago

    @ Biker Bob - Shortages? Where? Every shop in Holland has piles of them. It's the Kinect that you can't find here. Moves are abundant.

    I love these people who have nothing better to do than go to EVERY games store in their area and check stock levels.

  • Dave52 #37 1 year ago

    "It does not include sales of the stand-alone PlayStation Eye camera or the stand-alone PlayStation Move navigation controller."

    So just the bundles...? That's pretty impressive because there will be a bunch of people that already had the Eye and just went for the lightbulb nav thing.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:17

  • Markitron #38 1 year ago

    Im glad they are both doing well, Iv been really enjoying move since I got it.

    Edit: This is a great thread for rooting out and ignoring Trolls
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:23

  • galerian86 #39 1 year ago

    @Vyggo

    You know that the .1 is 100,000 right? I wouldn't call that scrapping the barrel...

  • Machiavellian #40 1 year ago

    So just the bundles...? That's pretty impressive because there will be a bunch of people that already had the Eye and just went for the lightbulb nav thing.

    Not it's not just the bundles it also include just the Move controllers. So you can have situations with the bundle and a purchase of a second controller. Or it can be like me where I already had the PS3eye so I bought two controllers.

  • coolbritannia #41 1 year ago

    I don't believe them, regardless Kinect looks set to sell more in the same time period.

  • Goodfella #42 1 year ago

    "I don't believe them"

    There's a surprise.

  • coolbritannia #43 1 year ago

    Goodfella still in the SDF, there's another surprise. Shipped or sold matey?

  • Jolly_Armadillo #44 1 year ago

    What's SDF?

  • coolbritannia #45 1 year ago

    Not so, Slim. I've never heard M$ passing 'shipped' figures as 'sold' like Sony has in the past.

    Then of course, there's Jack Tretton: [link url=http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs .php?topic_id=27487393
    ]http://uk .gamespot.com/pages/forums/show...[/link]

    Prosecution rests.

    edit: actually I can find one instance, over the Zune sales figures.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:37

  • Dave52 #46 1 year ago

    Sony Defense League.

    It's all a little sad. What's the Xbox equivalent..?

  • des #47 1 year ago

    It's just a PR number,shipped(to retailers) and therefore stretched like crazy...funny thing is that nav is not counted anymore(probably because it sells like shit,lol)

  • coolbritannia #48 1 year ago

    Dave, M$ equivalent is Xbots isn;t it?

  • Jolly_Armadillo #49 1 year ago

    Is coolbrittania an xbot then? He seems like an xbot

  • Dave52 #50 1 year ago

    Yes, yes he is... ;-)

  • Goodfella #51 1 year ago

    Jolly_Armadillo


    He is, massively, hence the irony of using the SDF phrase.

  • NotSoSlim #52 1 year ago

    Good edit coolbritania. They all do it but to say that Sony are lying and MS should be believed is double standards.

    Obviously kinect will have a larger install base as its one single unit but these numbers just for the move controller cannot be scoffed at.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 16:48

  • coolbritannia #53 1 year ago

    Yeah I am an xbot, never denied it, however Goodfella does deny being in the SDF, which is patently hilarious to anyone who really knows him. Also, I don't resort to negging people on here, which I know for a fact a good deal of the SDF do to me.

  • Jolly_Armadillo #54 1 year ago

    I don't mind Xbots and SDF. I actually like hearing their opinions.

    But it just bothers me when they get all hypocritical, calling others what they are themselves

  • bladdard #55 1 year ago

    Good sales figures no doubt and it'll be 4,100,001 because I'll be getting Move for Christmas. I'll also get Kinect once I can pick it up sub Ł100 (hopefully won't take too long).

    PS. There seem to be far more Xbots in Sony threads than SDF's in Microsoft threads, I don't know what that means exactly.

  • Widge #56 1 year ago

    That

  • Goodfella #57 1 year ago

    "however Goodfella does deny being in the SDF"

    That's because there is no such thing. I am however a big supporter of the PlayStation brand and think the 360 is an unreliable piece of shit. Also, who's the one trolling?

  • coolbritannia #58 1 year ago

    Guardian comments have a good point, bearing in mind that Kinect is 2 player, are most people buying 1 or 2 Move controllers? As if it's 2 that would mean Kinect is in as many homes as Move in less than half the time...

    /xbot

  • kangarootoo #59 1 year ago

    @Jolly_Armadillo

    "What's SDF?"

    Its just something stupid people say. Best not to worry about it.

  • kangarootoo #60 1 year ago

    @coolbritannia

    "Prosecution rests."


    Shortly after.

    "We find the defendant, not guilty."

    ;)

  • coolbritannia #61 1 year ago

    Damnit, what is this, a FIFA court?!

  • kangarootoo #62 1 year ago

    "He is, massively, hence the irony of using the SDF phrase."

    Its not ironic, its a given.

    The only people that EVER use the term SDF are either XBots, or the Nintendo equivalent. Normal people don't say that stuff, because normal people naturally assume everyone else is the same. Its only fanboys who automatically assume everyone else is as deluded and rabid as themselves.


    "I don't mind Xbots and SDF. I actually like hearing their opinions."

    But they aren't opinions, its dogma. Not the same thing. Dogma is predictable, and therefore hardly interesting (and don't think I don't realise the ice is creaking under my feet, delcaring the posts of others as "not interesting";).

  • Machiavellian #63 1 year ago

    For argument sake, is this a direct response from Sony after MS touted their 2.5 sold to consumers statement. If it is, is it more interesting that Sony only stated shipped numbers instead. The shipped numbers do show that the Move is selling but it doesn't give a good indicator on how much. It also doesn't show how much are unique users compared to existing users unless Sony break down which are bundles and which are Move controllers.

  • coolbritannia #64 1 year ago

    ah the 360 is an unreliable piece of shit? i've only had 2 consoles die on me, one was a PS2 less than 3 months after launch, the other was a 360 2 years after launch. hmm.

  • bioreit #65 1 year ago

    @ NotSoSlim "Also people nay be buying 2 controllers instead...also doesn't the article say sold so if people are questioning the figure as shipped then why not question the kinect figures?"

    @ Scopeh

    "Not once in the article does it say shipped...clearly states 'Sold', and just for you i will give the definition of 'Sold' just so you understand it- Sold=Having disposed of or remitted ownership of an item to another party in exchange for money or value. When an item is sold there will be one party acting as a seller and another party acting as the purchaser."

    Sony ships 4.1 million PlayStation Move controllers to retailers Source from Engadget Japan who quote Sony's PR article

    Salient quote from the article:

    "Alas, that number has been widely misreported as the tally of direct end-user sales, which it most definitely is not."

    So, sold yes, but sold-to-retailers, not sold-to-consumers. Both Microsoft and Nintendo only report sold-to-consumers as their numbers, so Sony's totals will always be slightly ahead of the curve.

    Still, unlikely to be more than a few hundred thousand out from the sold-to-consumers figure - I'd imagine any great numbers of stock would be retailers making sure they have enough for Christmas, i.e. will be gone within a few weeks at most.

    Regardless, both (all) sets of numbers for all platforms are still mighty impressive, Move sales especially considering the smaller global install-base and their mere one-month headstart over Kinect.

    EDIT: Damn missing '=' in the link...
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 17:18

  • kangarootoo #66 1 year ago

    @coolbritannia

    I got a bit carried away there. Didn't mean to call you stupid, sorry about that.



    I still wish you would write something honest and objective though, if only once, just to see what it feels like ;)

    The hardware failure rate of the early 360s is well documented - even MS don't deny they were at 68% in the first 18 months, and they also publicly admitted to writing off $1b to deal with the issue once and for all. Now they are fine and as reliable as anything else (and the new slim is also super silent and groovy), but lets not kid ourselves.
    Edited by 2 at 30/11/10 @ 17:20

  • coolbritannia #67 1 year ago

    No offence taken Kangarootoo.

    Seems that figure is shipped, so it wasn't Sony I wasn't believing, it was Eurogamer's reporting prowess. :-)

  • Machiavellian #68 1 year ago

    The hardware failure rate of the early 360s is well documented - even MS don't deny they were at 68% in the first 18 months, and they also publicly admitted to writing off $1b to deal with the issue once and for all. Now they are fine and as reliable as anything else (and the new slim is also super silent and groovy), but lets not kid ourselves.

    I agree with you kangarootoo that MS definitely shipped a defective piece of hardware with the 360 but I also will state that from personal experience my luck with the PS3 and the 360 is the same so its hard for me to see Sony in any different light. The YLOD seems to be the PS3 RROD and it is prevalent. Maybe not as much as the 360 issue but at least you had the warranty to cover that. My original PS3 (60gb) is sitting dead today because of the YLOD. At least when my 360 blew up, I was able to get it replaced but for my PS3 I am out of luck unless I want to play 150 not including shipping cost.


  • Ryze #69 1 year ago

    Fuck me, it's like a gimp parade up there in the comments.

  • zx81coder #70 1 year ago

    My Sony Nav controller is still unused but at least has that pristine non greasy unused thing about it. Might be a good game for it eventually

    I had a go at Kinect in the reception at work. It was cool but didn't want to spend too long on it for fear of looking like a massive geek in front of the fit receptionists
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 23:30

  • zm26 #71 1 year ago

    I love Move. It's such an original concept that has never been done before. It also shows one of the reasons Sony is so on top this generation: it innovates constantly and doesn't need to steal ideas.

  • Geordiemp #72 1 year ago

    @ Carrotcake.

    You say you have a move, and your last post on the subject is cutt and paste below, which you also got 21 negs for...

    "ok Sony. if they sold 2 of them they would say it exceeded the forecasts."

    Mr Carroit cake, you are a liar and the worst fanboy ever. Just so sad, sad sad sad...

  • nemesisND1derboy #73 1 year ago

    I honestly don't see people's problem in understanding this. It clearly says SOLD, not shipped. Its pretty fucking obvious people. If you think this is a lie, point me to the actual sales figures that you have? Yeah, didn't think so. Stop whinging and moaning. Both Move and Kinect are great products that are selling well. Get over your childish opinions and read the facts.

  • IronGiant #74 1 year ago

    And the wii has sold bazillions!! MS and Sony fail ;)

  • Geordiemp #75 1 year ago

    And cool britania, why come on here and make smarmy comments about move sales if you do not have a PS3 or are some sad teenager looking for calling someone a name...

    Its just very sad...

    I have both 360 and PS3, and have move, will buy Kinect when my 7 yr old sees a game he really wants.... At the moment he is after NFS Hot Persuit and AC brotherhood....and would jump if I got him Kinect animals...

  • peterfll #76 1 year ago

    Both Move and Kinnect have no game I'm bursting to play so neither are present in my living room. I would consider Move should that change. Kinnect will need to blow my socks off to warrant a purchase and the bother of moving furnitiure out the way every time I'd want to use it.

    I'm surprised at the sales figures for both, it's encouraging, it should mean more software, which means I stand a better chance in taking more than a passing interest in both.

  • coolbritannia #77 1 year ago

    nemesis, people can vote you up till the cows come home, you're still wrong. the press release states shipped, not sold.

  • bioreit #78 1 year ago

    @ nemesisND1derboy

    "If you think this is a lie, point me to the actual sales figures that you have? Yeah, didn't think so. Stop whinging and moaning."

    The only figures anyone can go by are what the companies themselves release. If only there was some kind of gaming journalist website which could ask Sony to clarify the press release for us.

    Shame.

    Oh wait, here it is!

    Joystiq Article

    Pertient Quotage:

    "A Sony representative explained that the 4.1 million actually represents Move units shipped to stores, adding "While we don't disclose our exact sell-through number, the key is that our retailers continue to ask for more Move units and are taking every unit we can supply them with based on their sales.""

    Sony numbers = sold-to-retailers, not sold-to-consumers.

    Case closed.

    /doesn't care who is supposedly more successful, but is a stickler for facts

  • Machiavellian #79 1 year ago

    Also lets not forget that with the coming holiday, Sony is probably discounting the move to retailers if they purchase a set amount. This is how Sony can continue to fill the retail channel keeping stock high and retailers buying wanting to max out on their profits with Move.

    EDIT: I love it when you get negged for a post that could be considered negative but isn't. I guess some people felt my post was coming down on Sony numbers when they are just a simple analyst of how Sony can keep stock and retailers happy all at the same time.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 20:04

  • bioreit #80 1 year ago

    @ cthuhlu_steev

    "Do all these people think that Sony ship things out to retailers for free? Of course they're sold, they're sold to the shop owners!"

    I don't! In fact, pretty sure I mentioned sold-to-retailers as a concept in both of my previous posts. Just pointing out that seeing as Kinect's 2.5 million is sold-to-consumers, then Sony's sold-to-consumers total for Move will be less than 4.1 million. Not saying it's going to be much less - I personally think it will be in the low hundreds of thousands based on the number of stores they must be shipping to world-wide - but it's a difference.

    And I hate it when people compare one statistic to another using a completely different set of data, yet never get hauled up on it. Like the whole "number of hospital admittances for knife injuries" story equalled "knife-crime increasing" in the media. They forgot to mention that knife-crime was down, but that accidents caused by drunken idiots trying to carve a chicken were on the increase.

    EDIT: How the bloody hell did I use when instead of one? I need a drink...
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 18:37

  • coolbritannia #81 1 year ago

    Move = Meh
    Kinect = Yay!

    That is the actual scientific formula I use when constructing posts.

  • Vistrix #82 1 year ago

    Sold to retailers is all that matters. I don't know why people mention this every single time.

    Both Microsoft and Sony are selling a shockingly large amount of these units...
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 19:05

  • jefranklin18 #83 1 year ago

    @coolbritannia: That is the actual scientific formula I use when constructing posts.

    And it shows ;)

  • suicidalblues #84 1 year ago

    A quick question for the xbot brigade. How does MS get consumer #s? Does the cashier call a Kinect hotline everytime someone buys one? It just seems odd that MS has this ability while Sony doesn't.

  • Machiavellian #85 1 year ago

    A quick question for the xbot brigade. How does MS get consumer #s? Does the cashier call a Kinect hotline everytime someone buys one? It just seems odd that MS has this ability while Sony doesn't.

    MS get their data the same way Sony and Nintendo. The difference is that Sony has only reported Shipped numbers because thats their policy while Nintendo reported sold to consumers and MS report sold to consumers if it benefits them to do so. Just so you know, the retail chain report sold numbers to their vendors. This is how they determine how much to purchase.

    The thing about shipped numbers is that it is a number that is a moving target. Retailers based on their contract can can dictate how much is sold to them. They also have the option to send back unsold stock. Sony can give incentives to retailers to purchase more stock which is the term "stuffing the channel" comes from. The 4.1 mill is a good indicator that Sony is selling Move but unless Sony gives sold to consumer numbers, you really do not know how much or how fast those devices are being sold.

  • SeesThroughAll #86 1 year ago

    Those certainly are decent sales figures, to my surprise (and perhaps Sony's too).
    Let's hope that those sales lead to better Move based games as well.

  • retr0gamer #87 1 year ago

    It's nice to be proven right. I'm pretty sure MS are only reporting shipped figures for kinect as well. Nintendo always seem to report te proper data, only reporting figures sold to consumers and saying that shipped figures are shipped figures and not calling them sold units.

  • morriss #88 1 year ago

    Oops! Shipped not sold, Sony.

    Laughable.

  • Geordiemp #89 1 year ago

    Children, not every internet or vendor reports sold items in EU and USA, get real.

    Microsoft, Big N and Sonyt only know 100 % sure the numbers they ship / sell to distributors. Thats it.

    They can all estimate what they think has been sold because they get asked for more units, so assume that the units shipped are sold.

    However, nobody really knows. And who cares, do you think if there are 3 m or 6 m Kinects it will play more deeply, same with Move, I want a deep Viking type game using the move as a sword....

    Party games are a big Yawn after 30 minutes....

    As a hardcore gamer, I want all party games to be poor sales so publishers are kept honest and invest in some deep LONG INTERESTING games for MOVE and Kinect, not a few minutes of waggle crxxp
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 20:45

  • makeamazing #90 1 year ago

    Pretty good numbers, I have move, really like SC.. and obviously picked up RE Gold... for me the lack of quality move only titles has probably meant its selling slower than it could. I am surprised by it being 4.1 considering we were talking about 2 million not so long ago (time flies)... but i am not sure why there are comparisons between Kinect and Move, two totally different beasts.

    Move will/should pick up more when LBP2, Socom and KZ3 are released (though certain websites dont like considering them as Move based games ;)

    What i am interested in though is how many consoles are selling, especially over BF...

  • coolbritannia #91 1 year ago

    '@coolbritannia: That is the actual scientific formula I use when constructing posts.

    And it shows ;)'

    Well done, you really did a great job copy and pasting my joke.

  • Machiavellian #92 1 year ago

    shipped, sold, it hardly matters , sony would nt keep shipping them to retailers if they were nt selling would they? you think the retailers would keep ordering them if they were nt selling? Its bizarre thag some of you cant accept that move seems to be doing well.

    The problem with only posting shipped numbers especially during the holiday period is that retailers stock up on supplies so they can and will purchase more then they sell especially if Sony is offering more incentives to fill the channel. It does show demand but you cannot really gauge that demand with just those numbers. I guess the difference is if Sony sell after the holiday another 2.5 to 3 mill to retailers than you know that they probably sold thru to customers that 4.1 mill or better.

    It definitely doesn't seem like Sony is having any stock supply problems like a article stated before. I guess Sony is trying to use the old MS jedi mind trick.

  • des #93 1 year ago

    There is like zero Move software in EU "sonyland" countries,Japan has been total bomba,US doesn't care either,that tells a lot
    It could be another case of PSP syndrome,lol

    Sony knows their real(estimated) numbers,but they are to shy to tell us that,come on Sony,you can do it...Nintendo and MS did that

  • jefranklin18 #94 1 year ago

    The longer this comments thread goes on, the more convinced I am that Wesley's sub-heading is not not aimed at Microsoft & Sony, but at some of the people posting here, who quite frankly shouldn't be obsessing over such things unless they are shareholders in the companies. And even that is debatable...

    EDIT: Oh and here is Des to add his thought-provoking argument,
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/10 @ 22:08

  • makeamazing #95 1 year ago

    Sony knows their real(estimated) numbers,but they are to shy to tell us that,come on Sony,you can do it...Nintendo and MS did that

    All three companies have a good idea of their figures, but at different times decide not to reveal the real figure as you would call it. For example why haven't we heard from MS and Sony about Black Friday console sales, we have heard from Nintendo... all three will do whatever they can to paint their own company in good light, because that is what business is about.

    As long as all three are doing well in different areas, at least we have a competitive market. I think there would be nothing worse than one or two out of the three dropping out and being a Sega to be honest.

  • JBlokeUK #96 1 year ago

    @jefrankkin18

    Absolutely spot on.

    No surprise that des is spouting his usual shite once again. +1 to the ''ignore poster'' feature.

  • Spence1115 #97 1 year ago

    Judging by instore, most GAMEs across the UK have very few. I know we haven't had any individual controllers available for a while, only a few starter packs which we run out of. Kinect on the other hand we keep getting a fuck load in, meaning every time it's down to '6 remaining hurry now!' we're suddenly up to 40, and loads of Xbox + Kinect bundles. Bugger all separate consoles though as they sell like mad! Utterly ridiculous how many Kinects we're getting sent. And bare in mind how much Microsoft pays us to advertise and promote their stuff, when Sony pays us nothing, so as staff we're told to always promote Xbox and Kinect over PS3 and Move (we get nothing, just get in trouble otherwise), and it's impressive the PS3 and Move are still doing as well as they are.

  • electrolite #98 1 year ago

    A lot of people on this comments thread need to take a long hard look at their lives and where they are going

  • Goodfella #99 1 year ago

    @ spence

    Typical MS really, using their bottomless pit of cash to grease the palms of retailers and despite all that Sony are doing well with Move.

  • Machiavellian #100 1 year ago

    @Goodfella.

    You do know that business do this all the time right. It's not something exclusive to MS. Actually how do you think that 500 mill is going to be spent, just on TV ads.