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Why you need to play Cadence of Hyrule

Plus! Suggestions on what Nintendo games other studios should make.

Trust Nintendo to release spin-off Zelda and Mario games this summer and both turn out to be just as good as their main entries.

We wanted to shine the spotlight on Cadence of Hyrule, a Zelda game by the Crypt of the NecroDancer team Brace Yourself Games - a non-Nintendo studio - who has made a remarkably Nintendo-like game.

Join guides editor Matthew Reynolds, features editor Christian Donlan - who provided our Cadence of Hyrule review - US Gamer's Hirun Cryer and Gamer Network platform developer Thomas Marchant talk about what makes this Zelda game different, but also surprisingly similar.

Plus! We go over your ideas for other studios who might do interesting work with other Nintendo properties:

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