Age of Conan server merges begin

By Oli Welsh Published 4 December, 2008

Free transfer if you don't like new home.

Funcom begins the process of consolidating servers for its fantasy MMO, Age of Conan, this week.

With the game having sold well at launch but lost many of its subscribers in the months since, the move is intended to bring a stop to declining server populations, and give players a busier environment.

In a forum post, community manager Glen Swan revealed that the process would begin with the merger of two US servers for the Oceanic region, Bloodspire and Hyperborea, this week.

The remaining merges will take place on a staggered timetable before Christmas, with a full list to be published soon.

Each time servers are merged, there will be a few hours of downtime across the entire US or European server network, as appropriate. All subscribers will be credited with free game-time to make up the difference.

Swan also said that players would be offered a free-of-charge, single-use character transfer option after the merges take place - one for each character. This is to enable them to move servers if they're unhappy with their new, merged communities.

A final option will be to start a new character on one of four "fresh start" servers that Funcom will open after the merges are complete - one each for PVP and PVE rulsets, in US and European territories.

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Comments (52) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • michaelius #1 3 years ago

    Merging servers = admitting people are running away :)
    First :)

  • ZuluHero #2 3 years ago

    the beginning of the end?

  • iokthemonkey #3 3 years ago

    Apparently two of the servers merging in the US are an RP-PVP and a "normal" RP. Why not just merge the two existing RP servers into one?

    Oh yeah, this is Funcom we're talking about...
    Edited by 1 at 04/12/08 @ 14:11

  • Eraysor #4 3 years ago

    The end is near.

  • iokthemonkey #5 3 years ago

    Has anybody read about the "31 Days of Christmas" giveaway?

    Sounds a bit iffy to me... Why would Funcom need your postal address, telephone number and name to give you in-game items?

  • ZuluHero #6 3 years ago

    no - whats that Iok?

  • iokthemonkey #7 3 years ago

    It's over on massively.com - there's a Christmas compo where you can win free in-game items (very nice of them!) by entering a prize draw. But in return, you have to submit your username, postal address, real name and phone number to them. That doesn't sound so "free" to me...

    EDIT: The competition is organised by Funcom, not massively.com...
    Edited by 1 at 04/12/08 @ 15:00

  • paulf #8 3 years ago

    getting rid of instanced areas may hep make the servers feel less empty as well, I enjoyed conan for the first 20 levels (ie the story bit) then it got dull very quickly - however saying that i still think it could be successful on the xbox 360 it seems more suited to that than pc for some reason

  • The_Surreal #9 3 years ago

    Some pretty bad English in this article.

  • DoctorZoidberg #10 3 years ago

    Some pretty bad English in this article.


    I've always felt poor English on here adds to the whole "euro" thing. I mean most europeans write English like demented mongooses. Makes everyone seem more family like.

  • The_Surreal #11 3 years ago

    lol@DoctorZoidberg

    Perhaps you're right buddy.

  • Oli Verified Reviews Editor, Eurogamer.net #12 3 years ago

    Um, I grant you it's not the most elegant thing I've ever written, but I could only find one typo in the fifth paragraph ("servers are merge" - sorry about that). So I'm not really sure what bad Engilsh you're talking about.
    Edited by 1 at 04/12/08 @ 17:07

  • 1simen1 #13 3 years ago

    Monkeyrude, if you had done your homework (you never do do you?), you would have known that the 2 servers in question are the two Oceanic ones. They have a special timezone compared to the others. Therefore Funcom didn't have much choice regarding this peticular merge in order to make the populations bigger for the remaining players in the Oceanic region.

    If you had done your homework and actually read the official forums, you would have know that the playerbase have been asking for mergers for a coupple of months now to make the sever populations bigger on the lesser populated ones.

    Now the players get what they wanted, but i guess in your world whatever Funcom does is wrong, even if it includes doing what the players want?

    Oh and they need your adress and phonenumber and real name for the giveaway because : THEY ARE EVIL AND WANT TO SVINDEL YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR WORTH BEFORE CHRISTMAS. ENTER THIS GIVEAWAY AND THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN LIKE ANIMALS AND KILL YOU ALL "FATALITY STYLE".......lol

    Monkeychild, you just can't let go can you....

    Until the next time then he he ;-)
    Edited by 1 at 04/12/08 @ 17:17

  • iokthemonkey #14 3 years ago

    [link url=http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=2127623 ]http://fo rums.ageofconan.com/showthread....[/link]

    One is an RP-PVP, one is pure PVP. But yeah, merging two different styles of servers simply based on timezones makes perfect sense in the bizarre world of Funcom business management.

    It's deeply sad seeing your attempts to spin the imminent implosion of this game into something positive.

    And yeah, dress it up all you like as something players "asked for." Maybe they did. But clearly you lack the intelligence to figure out WHY they asked for this. Well, let me explain it to you: they're asking for a server merge because the game's active playerbase consists of about four blokes and their dogs, all on different servers. And the reason for that is because the game's playerbase has crumbled away. The majority of people who bought this game are no longer playing it. That is a fact.

    As for the Funcom "giveaway" answer me this: why would they need your real address, name and telephone number if they're giving you virtual items? Maybe so they can sell that info on to third parties? I mean, they need to salvage something from this mess.

    But yeah, you keep on posting about how great this game is. I don't know what makes you a bigger idiot, though: the fact that you keep singing about how great this game is when you haven't even played it, or the fact that you do all that and Funcom aren't even paying you to do it.

    You cock. [laugh]

  • Gaol #15 3 years ago

    Told you so.

  • iokthemonkey #16 3 years ago

    Told you so.

    ---

    Didn't you read the post above mine? This merger is a GOOD THING and is being done because Funcom love every single subscriber their game has!

  • gremly #17 3 years ago

    Hmmmm, having flashbacks of all the other merges....Auto Assault...tabula rasa, After the merges there time was ticking, Time for AoC to pack it's cases. Shame, Had potential.

  • 1simen1 #18 3 years ago

    monkeyinfant: polite as always ain't ya lol

    Funcom opened up to many servers to begin with. Many players left making quite a few of the servers to thin population wise. Players asked for the merging of servers to increase populations. Funcom delivered starting this week with the two servers in question. They did run into a problem and posponed the first merger and will try again as soon as the issue is resolved.

    So i'm not dressing up anything just stating the facts. But i guess you in your bizarro world think that Funcom should let servers with few people just go on for ever, ruining the game experience for the remaining players on these servers?

    Also not that any player that isn't happy with the server they land on after a merger, get a free transfer to any server they like.

    Here is the server merge FAQ : [link url= http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=176031
    ]http://fo rums.ageofconan.com/showthread....[/link]

    Usually when joining a giveaway of anything, virtual or real , you have to give some of you personal info in order for them to verify that you actually are you. But then again you live in bizarro world where up is down an black is white....

    As to whom is the bigger idiot. Im not the one that is 80£ short now am i? lol

    On a more serious note.You quit the game after playing to level 30 something. Long before most of the changes that improved the game immensly came along. (stability, balance ,bug/quest fixes, dungeon revamps and content additions)

    Yet all you do is write how bad,shite,crappy AOC is in every and i mean EVERY comment section of new news story from Eurogamer regarding AOC.

    Now i have told you time and again,as long as you keep this up i'll continue to counterargument just for the hell of it. Basically because kids like you annoy me.

    But then again behavior like yours is quite normal for any persom that has worked as a "game developer" for the last 15 years.
    They always go on personal vendettas on Eurogamer after buying a game they didn't like...... Care to tell us which company that is so fortunate as to employ you? I'm getting curious:-)

    You crack me up lol

    Until your next rant ;-)


    Edited by 2 at 04/12/08 @ 22:57

  • Daikon #19 3 years ago

    They should just pull the plug and get it over with. Nobody will want to put any more time and money into playing the game now...

  • iokthemonkey #20 3 years ago

    You clearly have comprehension issues. Ask yourself WHY they're merging the servers. Why? Because the majority of people who bought the game are no longer playing it. That is a fact. Why have the majority of people who bought the game stopped playing it? Because Funcom lied to them about content, STILL haven't delivered the content they claimed was in AT LAUNCH and STILL haven't delivered the game they claimed they would. All facts.

    So sure, the merge is a "good thing." In the same way as losing both your legs is a good thing because it saves you buying socks...

    Usually when joining a giveaway of anything, virtual or real , you have to give some of you personal info in order for them to verify that you actually are you.

    Yeah, I forgot that. The other day when I got my free LOTRO item from Eurogamer I had to give them loads of personal details like... um... none. It's a cynical, pathetic attempt by Funcom to gather data on their userbase to sell on. If you can't see that then you're even more retarded than you appear.

    And yeah, I got burned by Funcom over this. But now I see their lies. You're still swallowing them down with gusto then regurgitating them here. So yeah, I may be a fool for buying into their lies originally but at least I - and those of us who ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME - see now what a bunch of shysters they are.

    Secondly, you'll find everybody who was robbed by Funcom will be equally as vocal, not just to voice their anger but also to warn others to not buy into the lies and bullshit they spout in every press release they put out.

    And while we're on, it's funny how you never address anybody else here but me. Go on, go counter the other arguments here and explain to the MAJORITY of people who've played the game and stopped due to it being shit that they're all wrong too. Go on. I address MY critics but you seem incapable of doing so. I'm flattered you've singled me out for attention, but seriously it's getting creepy now. I mean, now you want my name and company name. Seriously, that's stalker territory there, pal.

    But you know, if I'm so annoying, why not use that little brain of yours to press that Ingore button and I'll be out of your life forever. But you won't, as you're clearly getting off on this. Or is it simply that nobody else will bother speaking to you, you festering little shit?

  • 1simen1 #21 3 years ago

    Monkeyrant: A new high from you this time. I'm sure your mother must be proved of you and your way with words.

    "you festering little shit". Did you create that expression all by yourself? Though guy aren't ya? lol

    And no, there is nobody in the Eurogamer community as vocal and unpolite as you. All you do is rant and spread misinformation. You hardly ever use arguments basically because if you do you will find that almost all your gripes have been dealt with after you left. Meaning your arguments no longer apply.

    Did Funcom make a mistake when they opened up to many servers shortly after launch due to high sales? Yes, no argument there. Is it a good thing that they merger servers now to rectify this error? Yes ,no argument there either.

    Nobody svindled you of your money. You bought a game. You didn't like it, GET OVER IT!!!. There are still lots of players online playing and haveing a ball with it.

    I aim to bring balance in your AOC bashing threads. Here is an exsample of balance. Two threads in the official EU forums right now.

    Five best things about AOC : [link url=http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=102583
    ]    http://fo rums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthre...[/link]

    Five worst things about AOC : [link url=http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=102644
    ]    http://fo rums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthre...[/link]

    And finally one from the US forums. Resubing threads are quite comman these days : [link url= http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=176394
    ]http://fo rums.ageofconan.com/showthread....[/link]

    So "Monkeyfifteenyearsofgamedevelopingexperience" until the next time ;-)





  • iokthemonkey #22 3 years ago

    Those are some pretty impressive blinkers you have on there. I know you love reading my posts and go straight to them whenever you see me post here, but might I suggest you go look at the other posts above me? Aside from you, there's ONE poster here who speaks positively about AoC. Yet I'M the one you single out for your special attention? Hmm. Go read the other threads about AoC here or on something like massively.com - the independent ones, not the official forums - and you'll see a huge level of disgust and anger over Funcom's actions. Go on. Read them and address their points. No, you won't, will you? Because you know I'm right.

    And you know, I should just copy and paste my arguments, as I keep having to reiterate the same points over and over. It's nothing to do with "not liking" the game. It's about - as everybody else points out - Funcom LYING to the public about their game content and selling something they KNEW was not fit for purpose.

    And yeah, there may be lots of players "having a ball with it" but for every player playing, there's at least one - possibly even three, depending whose figures you believe - who stopped playing this piece of shit, despite paying £50+ for that.

    Oh and I ask again: are you speaking English as a second language?

  • 1simen1 #23 3 years ago

    monkeyrude, your arguments are usually classy ones like. "This game is shite", or "this turd of a game" and so fort.

    Higly skilled argumentation technique from your end...So pretty please with sugar on top ,can you copy and paste your argument once more?

    And stop with the svindel and fraud argument, it's pathethic. If that argument was valid every MMO released ever was a svindel attempt since every MMO developer promise alot before launch and hardly ever deliver, until a few months down the road....

    Until the next time Monkeyinfant ;-)

  • iokthemonkey #24 3 years ago

    Again, you ignore my points and find yourself unable to provide even the most basic of answers.

    You again miss the point:Funcom released an incomplete game that was riddled with bugs and didn't include the content they were still claiming was present. That's the cause of the anger. The fact is the game was badly implemented, designed and supported. Describing it as it is - "a pile of shit" - is a simpler, more shorthand way of explaining that. But considering you don't understand that anyway and have never played the game yourself, thus invalidating your arguments, I'll stick to calling it a "pile of shit."

    And it's such a pile of shit that the majority of people who bought it no longer play it. That's a fact.

    You think that's a success? Then I suggest you go get a dictionary and look up the word.

    And again, please answer the question: Is English your second language?

  • 1simen1 #25 3 years ago

    Monkeysad, Those are not factual arguments, those are your opinions.

    Wether the game is poorly designed or not is a question of gameplay taste. Was there many bugs and stability issues after launch? Yes, no argument there. Have most of the problems been fixed after you quit the game mr "all knowing played until level 30 something"? Yes, No argument there.

    Have i ever called it a sucess? Nope. Is it a failure? Nope. Will it be a failure or sucess? To early to tell.

    Is english my second language? What has that got to do with anything? Considering your lack of vocabulary i could ask the same. Most of your sentences lack varied adjectives. I detect an overuse of the words "turd" and "shite"

    See ya mister "way to old and bitter for your age" lol
    Edited by 1 at 05/12/08 @ 23:07

  • iokthemonkey #26 3 years ago

    Is English your second language?

  • 1simen1 #27 3 years ago

    Monkeysad : Is English your turd language, eh sorry your third i mean ;-)

    Untili the next time

  • CasuallyHardcore #28 3 years ago

    Iokthemonkey.
    You obviously enjoy trashtalking AOC. And by the amount of post you have had on the game I think you have gotten good value for money on the game. In fact, after a couple of more posts, I think you owe Funcom another month.

  • Nill #29 3 years ago

    From what people say, they'd be better off to merge servers in Warhammer Online as well. Guess they'd rather not show that to the public by doing it though.

    Sadly, it's WoW's a monster not easily beaten. Hopefully others will have seen that it'll take serious effort to even begin to tackle it, and equally hopefully, some of them won't be afraid to work out more of their own niche. I love niched games. :-)

  • Darkjinxter #30 3 years ago

    Well I stil like AoC.
    I've said it before and I'll say it once again just in case some punters can't understand.
    I am, always have been, an avid reader of RE Howard's Conan stories. To explore the lands of Hyboria as a barbarian is for me a dream come true. Funcom's artists have realsised the lands Hyboria with a passion, sure it's the icing on a an all-too-familiar gameplay cake, taking its' gamplay from the hit MMOs and dressing it up a bit.

    I don't give a shit about that.

    I'm enjoying the experience. An experience which Funcom have delivered on a level non-Howard fans can't fathom. It's time some 'branded' MMO players picked up a book and read it before dissing something they have no comprehension of.

  • SleepyMagpie #31 3 years ago

    "It's time some 'branded' MMO players picked up a book and read it before dissing something they have no comprehension of."

    I've played MMOG's for 10 years, almost all that are and have been.

    I've read Robert E. Howard's Conan stories extensively.

    Heck, I'm even norwegian and would liked to have seen Funcom done well with Age of Conan.

    Sadly they have not. It is utter, utter shite as a game, and does not even begin to do service to Howard's Hyboria.

    There. I am done writing about this lost cause, wish gamers would move on to one of the good MMORPGs (WoW, WAR, LotRO, CoH, EVE Online for example) and let Funcom pay for their misconduct.

    It's going to close sooner or later, don't waste your time people.

  • iokthemonkey #32 3 years ago

    Monkeysad : Is English your turd language, eh sorry your third i mean ;-)

    Untili the next time

    ----

    Is English your second language?

  • iokthemonkey #33 3 years ago

    Iokthemonkey.
    You obviously enjoy trashtalking AOC. And by the amount of post you have had on the game I think you have gotten good value for money on the game. In fact, after a couple of more posts, I think you owe Funcom another month.
    ----

    No, I don't "enjoy trashtalking AOC." I'm simply making the point that Funcom's approach to business is short-sighted and disreputable and that for all their "everything's fine" press releases and comments, the reality is they ripped-off a lot of customers and are continuing to do so with these carrot-on-stick patches and updates, which STILL - despite what certain ill-informed posters here may try to tell you - aren't working as designed.

    If anybody's out there enjoying AoC, more power to them. Have fun and enjoy it. I wouldn't try to stop anybody playing it if they're having fun. But the point I'm making is that Funcom are not telling the whole truth about what's going on.

  • iokthemonkey #34 3 years ago

    You see, this is the problem with Erogamers fcked up forum. Mythic and Blizzard plants turn every fucking game upside down in hope of increasing their own revenue.
    ---

    I'll admit, I played WoW for a lot of years and had fun with it. But I don't play it now, as I find it too repetitive. However, I can still appreciate the quality and polish of that game. If that makes me a plant, well then I'm sorry. But the simple fact is, quality shines through WoW in terms of its coding, design, implementation and general finish. AoC on the other hand lacks the finesse, finish and design that went into Blizzard's game and it shows. It's a retrogressive step in MMO design, Funcom themselves have admitted they got it wrong big-time in a lot of areas and the game simply lacks the overall quality not only that WoW has, but that any commercially released game should have.

    Are they improving matters? Maybe. Although from what I gather the "fixes" don't work in many instances or are simply patches to already-broken mechanics. Kudos to Funcom for trying, but then again, I take that away instantly, as they shouldn't receive praise for fixing something they shipped broken. A former colleague of mine used to work for a large government agency and he said the ones who got the most notice and promotions weren't the people who did their jobs well, but rather the people who bailed-out the company with fixes and helped fix the disasters. Yet the majority of the time, those disasters were caused by the very people now fixing them. This is the same concept: Funcom are appearing to be very sympathetic and attentive to the audience of their game and are rolling out loads of fixes and "extra" content. Yet this "extra" content is all stuff they promised would be there on the day of release. And in some cases, the content they promised us was on the disc we bought still hasn't made it into the game.

    So yeah, give Funcom props for "fixing" the mess, but just remember whose fault it is that the game is in such a state in the first place.

  • 1simen1 #35 3 years ago

    Monkeycrap: You write

    "No, I don't "enjoy trashtalking AOC."

    For someone not enjoying to trashtalk AOC, you sure do it ALOT. 3 posts in a row. New record even for you lol.

    Noticed that you are a Lord of the rings player. Good for you. Go play that game, why bother spreading your bile again again and again about another game (AOC) ?

    I do believe 99,99% of Eurogamers readers by now have noticed that YOU don't like AOC.

    Therefore i take it upon me to educate the same 99,99% of these facts.
    You played until level 30 something and left before all the big updates. You have no idea what the game is like today after all the patches and polish.
    You claim to be a gamedeveloper with 15 years on your belt. I wonder witch company, and did you start working for them when you were two years old? lol.
    You play another MMO Lord of the rings.

    Are you afraid of Funcom stealing some LOTR players is that it?
    Are you paid by the LOTR devs to trashtalk AOC.

    If the latter is not the case why bother going on and on and on about how bad things are in the game you haven't played since late summer....I mean working as a gamedeveloperfor 15 years means that you should easily afford "loseing" 80£ to a game you didn't like without going mental.....

    I am very stubborn and i will continue to respond to your bile and present a balanced view of AOC as long as you continue to spreas your "shite" about the game.

    Is English your forth language? I just so have to now.
    Is Sleepymaggie another one of your nicknames? I seem to have heard this line a few times before "it's utter, utter shite as a game"

    Go back to your mines in Moria and close the door will ya?

    Sadly though, until the next time:-)

  • iokthemonkey #36 3 years ago

    Is English your second language?

  • 1simen1 #37 3 years ago

    Is English your language at all? All i seem to read in your posts is ya da ya da ya da ya da ya da ya da ya da........
    Edited by 1 at 08/12/08 @ 10:51

  • iokthemonkey #38 3 years ago

    Why so reticent to answer a simple question?

    If English is your second language, that's fine. I'm merely trying to establish why you don't seem capable of grasping the points I'm making. I'm guessing it doesn't translate into Norwegian and you're struggling to see my point, right Simen? It is "Simen" isn't it? A good Nordic name there if ever I heard one...

    Now, answer the question and we'll move onto the next one, shall we? After all, I'm not going to waste my time addressing points when you seem both incapable of understanding them or doing the same...

  • 1simen1 #39 3 years ago

    monkeyignorant: Yes that's it all Norwegians are part of a giant conspiracy to make AOC look better than it is....

    lol you crack me up :-)

  • iokthemonkey #40 3 years ago

    So you admit you ARE Norwegian?

  • 1simen1 #41 3 years ago

    monkeynobrain: Only if you admit that you are ENGLISH!!

    As if nationality has anything to do with anything. You play a game not a country or developer.......

  • iokthemonkey #42 3 years ago

    Yes, I am English. Does that mean you're now going to disclose that you're Norwegian?

    And I ask because I'm suspicious of the motives of somebody who:

    - posts repeated defences of a game they do not own yet when challenged to go play it, they dodge the issue.
    - posts links to the official forums only as a way to support his "arguments."
    - continually hounds one poster (i.e. me) who posts comments criticising a Norwegian game and the business practices of a Norwegian company then remains cagey and defensive regarding his nationality.
    - claims to be posting in defence of the game because they "dislike negativity" yet never posts any comments to defend any other games except said Norwegian game/developer.
    - or indeed posts anything anywhere else except when criticism is levelled at this Norwegian game/developer.

    So yeah, I'd say your nationality was pretty important in this matter, Simen.

  • 1simen1 #43 3 years ago

    monkeypathetic: You can believe whatever you want. I simply reply to your posts because you annoy me. If you take one look in the mirror you will find that there is nobody else like you in these forums when it comes to AOC critisism.

    Your singlemindedness in that regard is second to none.

    I am not defencive about my nationality. I just don't see the relevance. I was reading Conan comics back in the late 80's. Long before there was a company called Funcom. I couldn't care less wether Funcom is Norwegian , South African or British. That is totally irrelevant. As i said above you can't play a company, but you can play a game.

    I have said it time and time again. People like you that go on endless crusades against peticular games irritate me.

    I'm just making a stand, saying if you comtinue down your sorry ass path, you will find me there writing, presenting a different view using existing players feedback as arguments some in favor of the game and others not. (official forums)

    Considering the way you keep writing "shite" about the AOC in EVERY new news story, i take it we will be doing this for awhile.

    So again, keep it up and i'll be there just for the hell of it, simple as that. No hidden motives what so ever. Your on the other hand as a LOTR player going crasy trying your hardest to drag a compeating MMO down into the mud, should be pretty careful about accusing others for having hidden motives......

    Ta ta little man........

    Until the next time.

  • iokthemonkey #44 3 years ago

    Funny, if your background is so unimportant that it took you so long to answer a simple question regarding it. Hiding something are we? Working to an agenda? Yes, you clearly are.

    I on the other hand have never hidden anything relating to my discussions here. Yes, I play LOTRO. I also play CoH. I've played EQ, EQ2, SWG, WOW and a bunch of other MMOs. But that's neither here nor there when it comes to the fact that Funcom LIED to its customers regarding AoC and its content. Not in that "it doesn't work? Oh we'll fix that, sorry!" way that happens with other MMOs. No, they outright LIED about the game's content and promised stuff that's STILL not present. Re-read that again. Then do it again so it sinks in, as you clearly have comprehension issues.

    Oh and if you're such a big fan of Conan, why haven't you picked up AoC? I mean, it's surely the game you've waited all your life for. Go on, if it's so great, go pick up a copy. And if your PC can't play it, do what I did and upgrade so you can. Go on. Why are you so scared to play AoC? Is it because you know deep down that I'm right? Yes, I think it is.

    And you clearly don't understand the MMO market if you think LOTRO and AoC are "competitors."

    My "agenda" is plain and simple and I'll re-iterate it AGAIN in the vain hope that you'll pull your lips away from Craig Morrison's anus long enough to read this: Funcom sold a product they KNEW was defective, LIED about the game's content and shipped an unfinished, unfit for purpose title KNOWING FULL WELL it was NOT complete. THAT'S the issue here.

    My "agenda" is plain and simple and I'll re-iterate it AGAIN in the vain hope that you'll pull your lips away from Craig Morrison's anus long enough to read this: Funcom sold a product they KNEW was defective, LIED about the game's content and shipped an unfinished, unfit for purpose title KNOWING FULL WELL it was NOT complete. THAT'S the issue here.

    My "agenda" is plain and simple and I'll re-iterate it AGAIN in the vain hope that you'll pull your lips away from Craig Morrison's anus long enough to read this: Funcom sold a product they KNEW was defective, LIED about the game's content and shipped an unfinished, unfit for purpose title KNOWING FULL WELL it was NOT complete. THAT'S the issue here.

    My "agenda" is plain and simple and I'll re-iterate it AGAIN in the vain hope that you'll pull your lips away from Craig Morrison's anus long enough to read this: Funcom sold a product they KNEW was defective, LIED about the game's content and shipped an unfinished, unfit for purpose title KNOWING FULL WELL it was NOT complete. THAT'S the issue here.

    Sorry, but seeing as you don't seem able to comprehend that, I posted it four times. Read each again. And don't come back with the "all MMOs change" BS. If you can't understand the difference between features that break on release and features that aren't even present, then you're an even bigger idiot than I took you to be.

  • 1simen1 #45 3 years ago

    Monkeymad: I didn't bother answering that question because it's not relevant to the discussion. You clearly disagree which is your rigth.

    AGAIN MY ONLY AGENDA IS THE FACT THAT YOU IRRITATE ME LOL :-)

    To your "points" :

    1 : A MMO that didn't hold everything i promised in it's promotional run towards realse? Oh my bu hu fucking hu. Never seen that before.....
    And basically i don't care. Judge the game for what it is in the present if it's a MMO. Not the past. You clearly disagree which is your rigth.

    2: Why i haven't piscked up AOC? 2 reasons. MMO's lack polish at launch, and i work to much at the moment and haven't got the time for a MMO. Bonus is that when i do pick it up (if i ever find time again for MMO gaming), it will be a very polish game. You clearly disagree which is your rigth.

    3,4,5 and 6 : You feel cheated of your hard earned 80£ you made from taking out the garbage for mom and dad. That was such an emotional blow for you and your personal economy that you went to war against the evildoers Funcom. Damn them to hell for releasing a game that wasn't perfect at lauch.... Damn them to hell for all eternity!!!!

    You are such a drama queen. You have made this point in every news story about AOC. I think everybody in Europe now know that you the crazed Monkeyboy was svindeled by Funcom. You didn't like the game. Fine, move on to things you find better.
    You clearly disagree which is your rigth.

    7: I am not a idiot. You clearly disagree which is your rigth ;-)

    Now go kill a dwarf or something.....

    Until the next time....

  • iokthemonkey #46 3 years ago

    I am not a idiot.

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    Yes you are if you cannot comprehend the difference between an unpolished game and a game that ships with CONTENT MISSING.

    Read that again.

    AGE OF CONAN SHIPPED WITHOUT CONTENT FUNCOM CLAIMED WAS PRESENT EVEN AFTER LAUNCH.

    That's not "fixing stuff that needs tuning." That's not "improving the features now they're live."

    Got it yet?

    But you know what? Forget about it. You're clearly so stupid or so far up Funcom's collective arse that you're unable or unwilling to understand the simplest of points.

  • 1simen1 #47 3 years ago

    monkeylackingbasicmannars :

    I hear your point and understand it to. To me that's minor issues. To you it's worse than the black plague, WW11 and the ebola virus combined.

    The only thing i care about in a game is wether i'm haveing fun or not. If i like it i play it, if i don't i .....well you guessed it , i stop playing it and move on.

    You have made your "point" for several months now continously. Time to give it a rest? No?

    Until the next time ...(to great happiness for our 3 readers ;-) )

  • iokthemonkey #48 3 years ago

    I hear your point and understand it to.

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    No, you don't understand it.

    I've made this point before (but you didn't understand it then either) so read this and see if you can understand it:

    You go out and buy a TV and are told by the salesman it's a colour, HDTV with 400 channels. You get it home, switch it on and discover it's a black & white, standard def TV with 3 channels that runs for 30 minutes before it switches itself off. You complain and the guy who sold it to you admits that yes, he did sell you the wrong TV but don't worry, they have a special fix that will make it what you were sold and it'll come "soon" but in the meantime, you'll need to pay your TV subscription fees but don't worry, as it'll be fixed "soon."

    Six months after purchase, your TV is still a black and white, standard def TV with now - hooray! - 8 channels. Still not the HD, colour, 400 channel TV you were promised and - when you ask about it again - you're told it'll be fixed "soon." The next fix appears and now your TV has 15 channels, but the 7 new ones only work half the time. You complain and the TV guy tells you it's working "as it should be."

    And don't pull out that weak "but TVs are hardware." I'm talking METAPHORICALLY as you're clearly not getting how badly implemented the whole deal has been. Forget about "other MMOs." Forget about "tuning the game."

    I'll say it again: FUNCOM KNOWINGLY SOLD A PRODUCT THAT WAS NOT ONLY FAULTED BUT WAS MISSING FEATURES AND CONTENT THEY CLAIMED WERE PRESENT.

    In any other industry, selling faulted goods like that would allow the purchaser a refund. But for some reason, software seems to be exempt from this. Why? This isn't about Funcom producing a game I "didn't like" or a game that would "be tuned when it went live." Funcom LIED to us. They sold us a pack of falsehoods. They spooned out a load of BS and KNEW their game was incomplete. Not "incomplete" as in "it needs a few bugs ironing out" (although the bugs are another matter) but "incomplete" as in "the stuff we've been telling you about, the stuff it describes on the box, the stuff you're buying the game to play actually isn't in the game."

    If you think that's acceptable, then I guess lying, dishonesty and wilfully misleading people is a national trait, as it's certainly something Funcom appear to have no qualms about.
    Edited by 1 at 09/12/08 @ 22:23

  • DrRobotnik #49 3 years ago

    Textbook fanboy ranting. Love it.

    Keep it up guys:-)

  • iokthemonkey #50 3 years ago

    Textbook fanboy ranting. Love it.

    Keep it up guys:-)

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    Ranting? Nah, not really. I've simply discovered that Simen here skim-reads stuff so the only way to draw his attention to the point is to post in caps, which unfortunately comes off as ranting or shouting. I'm quite resigned to the fact that Funcom ripped me off and I've got to write-off the cash they took from me. I'd just hope my experience will make others think twice before shelling out on a still incomplete game and to ensure the game they want is actually the game they buy.

  • DrRobotnik #51 3 years ago

    I think Funcom have learnt there lesson - It doesn't matter how much advertising you buy; if your game is shit, people will stop playing it.

  • iokthemonkey #52 3 years ago

    I think Funcom have learnt there lesson - It doesn't matter how much advertising you buy; if your game is shit, people will stop playing it.

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    I'm actually surprised nobody's tried to sue them for some kind of false advertising or deception. The actual game contents and what the game is actually described as are vastly different and to this day, the box contains dishonest information. Not in that "it's an awesome game" way, but rather in the fact that there's stuff listed there (such as DX10 support) that isn't.