Portal 2 in orphan insult row
Adoptive parent "shocked at insensitivity".
A US news station has accused Valve of insensitivity over orphan jokes in Portal 2's script.
The WBTV report claims scenes in which GLaDOS and Wheatley rib the player "make fun of adoption" and interviews a parent who took offense while playing the game with his adopted 10-year-old daughter.
"It literally pokes fun for not having parents," said father Neil Stapel.
"It throws the most ultimate question that child is ever going to have for you... right into the living room."
One of the clips from the game featured out of context in the report sees the Wheatley character say, "Alright, fatty. Adopted fatty. Fatty, fatty no parents."
"If you're not an adoptive parent it's probably not a big deal for you," explained Stapel, "but if you are an adoptive parent it was literally the worst thing I could have heard."
Valve was apparently contacted for comment but hadn't responded by the time the report was broadcast. We've been in touch too and will update if we hear back.
Have a read of our recent interview with Valve writer Erik Wolpaw for some insight into Portal 2's script.
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Hopefully they won't - ignore it - don't give it credance.
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Because Jeremy Kyle proves that we don't have idiots in the UK doesn't it? Anti-American generalisations are still racism even if it's not as typical because there's no skin colour involved. Don't tar everyone with the same brush. Most Americans are perfectly fine, there's just a greater number of the idiots to make the news because it's a bigger country.
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Seriously, they proper make me cringe.
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If its really going to get that bad, maybe all the fat people, homeless people, scientists, athletes, British people and anyone else used in a Portal joke should complain.
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Probably enriched with some bloody outtakes from Bulletstorm and with a properly horrified reporter.
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And a 12 on a box or an 'E' on a box in America's case doesn't make it a kids game, i doubt most children would understand the humour or get their head round some of the puzzles.
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I hope they filed a retroactive complaint about that "come back when you get some parents!" line from the Simpsons and all those jokes about Leela from Futurama's time in the orphanarium.
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but whatl if everyone making accusation like this on every media or on every other thing that available around us....
by that time we wont be able to enjoy: painting, game, music, movie, ... we cant even enjoy life.
now i need to brace myself for the incoming negatives...
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And stop negging people who see the guys point of view. That would be childish.
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the 12 on the box in big numbers is PEGI EU rating
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Also I wish they wouldn't keep referring games as a kids game, what a load of cobblers...
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Just let them play portal 1 (Haven't finished portal 2 yet) and show them how to deal with bullies..
Really don't think these parents have a leg to stand on. They missed the point entirely.
And letting a 10 year old play.. tsk tsk.
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As in all of these cases, it's the parents' responsibility to ensure that the content is suitable for their child before exposing them to it. Simple as. If they absolutely have to blame someone other than themselves, I suppose it should be the ratings board though rather than Valve.
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Is the whole world becoming more sensitive, or am I just imagining it?
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@God_Octo #16 - "..any sensible person could tell that GLaDOS was being petty and vindictive.". Even a 10 year old?
In case you couldn't gather from my responses, sign me up for finding the adoption jokes tasteless. Perhaps the game should have been rated higher due to the player needing the maturity and experience to realise the abuse in the game is meant in jest from the developer and is pure pettiness from the in-game characters and should not be taken seriously.
On the flip side, although I found the jokes tasteless, I hope to god Valve don't end up paying a settlement or anything. Like ukuleleimport (#17) said, no adoptive parent would tell their child they have no parents and most would tell that child that they were their parents from a young age (which is possible in this case as they never hid the fact the child was adopted from her, as stated in the video by the father). So the question the father in the video talks about I took to be "Daddy, who are my parents?" would either not come up in the child's mind or be easily answered with "We are.".
As for the "Americans are stupid." comments, I'm gonna have to side with the Americans and express my disgust at how we seem to categorise all of them as dumb. Just like I hate that all Muslims are terrorists, all Germans are uber-efficient work aholics etc. F**king stereotypes.
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They wrote it, you read it.
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Any excuse to kick off on the news.
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lol thats credible reporting
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When the most popular paper in the UK is the Daily Mail, then it's pretty much a case of glass houses here. And admit it, you could TOTALLY see this being a Daily Mail headline if they had thought of it first.
Yeah so knock it off and freely knock the individuals and the channels involved, not the whole people. People being idiots is one of the few things that we as a species hold in common across borders.
Unfortunately.
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"certainly seems like it"
The ignorance here is astounding. I saw a porno and was offended so I called phillips cause they made the VCR lol.
Also want to add they like the game, which btw is full of about 9 hours of the player being made fun of by robots.
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*EDIT* Also Glados & Wheatley take the piss out of "CHELL" Not a little chinese 10 year old about being adopted. Then I'm sure Glados or Wheatley says straight after that there is nothing wrong with bein adopted. Stupid foooooooking Americans man
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AND GUESS WHAT!!! I just went to find a good Glados wuote to put on the cake, and I found a forum..... [link url=http://www.giantbomb.com/glados/94-722/favorite-glados-quotes/35-5141/
]http://www.giantbomb.com/glados/94-722/f...[/link]
One guy in the forum puts this ....... "My best friend is adopted, and we played Portal together one night because I knew she would LOVE the sarcastic humor. She thought the "It also says you were adopted, so that's funny too" was one of the best lines in the game.
LOL!!!
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It also annoys me how the bloody anchors are always shaking their heads as though it's so OUTRAGEOUS! It's not taunting you, it's taunting the character. It's in context with the story. It's not as if it said, "Hey you! Yeah, you that's playing this game. I'm going to come and knife out your eyeballs and then take a dump in your adopted mouth."
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Yes, there are plenty of stupid people in the UK too, Christ there are thick people all over the world, I wouldn't even attempt argue otherwise. Most of them are in the USA though.
As for the Royal Wedding, was that an attempt at an insult? It may shock you to discover a lot of people in the UK think they're a freeloading waste of space, myself included. So shove that in your pipe and smoke it.
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im just suprised it took them so long to start whinging about it.
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yes it was an insult, and no it doesn't surprise me at all. My point was exactly that. You can't judge half a billion people because of the minority being retarded.
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For me terribly funny For the adoptive parents sad that they seem to be idiots for valve both I guess sad that there are idiots who talk too much and have nothign to say and funny since well you know it's funny.
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Srsly, don't watch American TV news. It's awful. The only thing it's good for is breaking news and initial disaster coverage.
Are 10 year olds even supposed to be playing this game? Oh, look, it's on the eurogamer kids site. Is eurogamer liable now? Are they about to get sued?
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Hmm, not so sure about it being a minority but we'll have to agree to disagree there.
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(Its just tabloid nonsense anyhow - ya'll do it in print, we do it over the airwaves.)
Not that we don't have plenty of idiots mind you - if we assume that a constant percentage of the population are idiots, then we have about five times as many as the UK. Because its not like you don't have plenty of jackoffs just like these folks. Ours are less likely to be drunk, more likely to be armed (which is actually good - drunk and armed may be fun as hell, but it aint always smart).
Besides... Shut up and do as you're told. We're in charge now.
Eat a hamburger. Watch Friends. Wear Levis.
And keep up the Doctor Who.
Oh, and if you have any more Monty Python, send that over too.
BTW: we're keeping Hugh Laurie.
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so you go ahead and put it up all over the news. now everyone will want to talk to her about it whether she wants to or not.
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Regardless of age ranges and ratings etc.
Neg me if you like, I'm not trying to defend anyone, frankly I don't care, I certainly don't think it should have made the news or that anyone should be punished, sued or whatever. But adoption can be a very sensitive subject for some families.
I understand it was meant as a joke, I found it funny personally, but people are laughing and insulting at a man who was simply upset over a joke, which had a similarity to the type of relationship he has with his family. I laugh at practically any kind of humour as dark as it gets, but I don't think people should laugh at people because their hurt by the punchline.
Just a thought.
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/cheap shot, we have Daily Fail readers over here for our whiney bastards.
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Right, because the British press would never run with a story like this would they?
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Yeah, I know. I'm just having fun being a dick. Its a cultural phenomenon I think we inherited from ya'll.
We are family after all - and just like in my family we rip on (take the piss out of) each other.
Sure, our idiots are loud and get on TV waaaaay too often, but at least we have dentistry and decent food!
See? Funny!
We talk a lot of shit about each other, but in the end we're still family.
Seriously though, tell me you wouldn't rather have a pizza than blood pudding. I mean. come on, BLOOD pudding???
We have chocolate pudding.
Just sayin.
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Granted.
But lets face it, if they weren't hurtful, they wouldn't be funny.
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Black pudding (blood pudding) is really nice... it's just a different kind of sausage which you usually have with a big meaty breakfast, alongside bacon and normal sausages. It doesn't taste of nor drip blood, you wouldn't even know unless someone told you. Pizza is already scheduled for dinner tonight, coincidentally with a faux-American name ("Chicago Town"
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I can think of at least twenty things on the top of my head that I could say to him that would be worse. Much worse. So much worse that I'd probably be banned from the Internet for typing them.
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CAN'T HIDE THE FACT SHE'S NOT ADOPTED TOO F***ING RIGHT!
Fatty fatty retard...
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I know a lot of you here think that they (and me!) are being over-sensitive, but I think this is a scenario where sensitivity is called for i.e. we're not talking blue homosexuals making love here.
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Equally have you never seen a rugby team on tour? We're always dressing as women for comedy. I guess stereotypes must be based on something after all...
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Agreed. We've all over-reacted to a comment that happened to touch a nerve, and adoption can certainly be a sensitive subject so we shouldn't be too down on the guy for that.
However, I'm reasonably happy to label him a twat for calling the local news about it, and more than happy to call that entire news team clueless hacks
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So are you saying adoption should be off-limits for comedy? Or maybe just that the age-rating was too low?
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You hit the nail on the head, his reaction can only have done more harm than good.
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What, stand comedians should stop making jokes about relationships and divorce because it happens to allot of people?
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Ooh, you're putting me on the spot.
I don't think it should be off limits for comedy and I don't like to inflate age ratings. I suppose I just didn't think the joke was appropriate in that setting. I would have just scrapped it and saved it for later! I admit it's a tough decision but I that's what I'd go with.
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What is really throwing this question up? The short comment that apparently the kid didn't even mention afterwards, or the reporter and cameraman you invited into your home to question her about it?
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Brilliant point mate. And also jumping over to her head to cover her ears (or even take her out the room) so she don't hear the line would of caused her to think "oh why did daddy just do that" if she was that stupid to not know already. That AND bringing a film crew over (what arcam) said has probably made her think that now. If you had just shut your gob up and have a laugh about it she probably wouldn't of thought twice. Or if you're such a protective idiot, you wouldn't of bought the game in the first place.
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No truly the bigger insult is assuming that the adoptive child is a thin skinned fool.
Peterfll (So so close eh! already taken eh? *lol*) Angelina Jolie confirmed.
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And remember, folks - stupid is like oxygen. It's everywhere, and recognises no national or cultural boundaries.
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You don't hear the mutes complaining...
/coat
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I'd like to see another news article about the millions of people that had a laugh whilst playing.
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These shows never ask the difficult questions!
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But when Glados gains a human streak, she says "What's wrong with being adopted!?" to which Wheatley cannot answer.
Glados also makes amends for the fat kicks.
And the original companion cube isn't dead, for all the cube loving complainers...
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I am fortunate/unfortunate enough to live in a rural part of the UK. Occasionally we get news stories so trivial that they leave me scratching my head "hm, why the fuck is that news ?".
Thats all this is.
Eurogamer's concept of what makes a good story is starting to take the piss. Get a grip please?
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Basically, some student's pet hamster had died, and he stuck it in the box his phone came in to go and bury it. On the way, he stopped at a friend's house. A passing thief saw the phone box in the back of the car, broke in and stole it, not realizing what was inside...
This was on the third page, and took up the entire third page.
EDIT: Here's a link! The headline is even better than I remembered: "Sick thieves stole my dead hamster, Bella, from my car"!
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/'Sick+thie...
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(sings weakly) "cuz i'm proud to be an americun"
Oh well. At least we can go all Modern Warfare on another nation in real life whenever we darn well please. No one is safe from the inquisition! mwhahahahaha
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Being awesome is high in calories.
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