Will Star Trek Online go free-to-play?

Will Champions get user-generated content?

If you want Star Trek Online to be free-to-play then you had better jolly well say so, Cryptic boss Jack Emmert has told Eurogamer, because right now that decision hangs in the balance.

"I'm sure people are wondering whether we'll do it with Star Trek and the question is really how well it does for Champions," explained Emmert. "Does it work or doesn't it?

"We're not sold one way or the other with Star Trek yet. If people want Star Trek to go free-to-play then get in and play Champions and help make it a great success, because that would send a strong message."

"If we did Turbine's level of success that would certainly merit the discussion!"

But, he added: "There are more people than just I on that decision and I can't begin to say it would be an automatic 'Yes, we'd do it.'"

Champions Online will turn free-to-play next year. Why? Because Turbine made loads of money relaunching Dungeons & Dragons Online as F2P and found success with Lord of the Rings Online, too, which turned free-to-play in Europe this week.

"We hope for a success as big as DDO," Emmert enthused. "That would be great - but I wouldn't say we're betting on it.

"In other words, I'm not going to say we'll do or die if we don't get five times our revenue or whatever the stats were that Turbine did. We're just hoping to open it up and increase the fanbase, and we'll just wait and see - I'd love it if we got their results, but hey, if that doesn't happen it doesn't happen."

Free-to-play too?

Champions Online turning free-to-play means there will be two ways to experience the game: as a Silver member or as a Gold member.

Gold members are existing subscribers who will pay $14.99 a month. Silver members, on the other hand, represent the free-to-play side of the game. Silver members have limitations on character class, costumes, and character slots - "all that kind of stuff". But they can download Champions Online and adventure from zero to superhero without spending a penny or a nickel or a galleon or whatever you use.

Of course there's the option to splash some cash if you so choose, picking content, items and buffs "a la carte" from the in-game C-Store.

Note, however, that if you're a subscriber-turned-Silver member then you'll have to pay to move to a Silver server. "You have to pay to transfer your characters over or you could just start from scratch again," revealed Emmert.

Gold members will have access to some areas that Silver members do not. But apparently the two sets of members can play Champions Online together. "We don't want to disallow that by any stretch."

He reckons the reaction so far to the Champions Online news has been "super great" by the "vast majority", although there have been a "few snarky comments".

"I'm hoping lots of new people would give the game a chance that perhaps didn't even look at it the very first time because it was a subscription MMO," Emmert said. "Naturally I expect a lot more people to come in - we believe strongly that the game was good at launch and even better a year later - and that those people decide to stay around and play in the world. "

Champions Online received 6/10 on Eurogamer at launch last September. But today Emmert reckons it's the best superhero MMO on the market - "very much better game than City of Heroes ever was".

"But hey, that's just my own particular gameplay style. I created City of Heroes so if anything I'm insulting myself! That's no slight against anyone but me," he said.

"Nobody sits down and makes games that aren't popular on purpose. You assume it's going to get 9/10, even though there are mistakes. If you told me that somebody would give Champions 4/10, I would have said to you, 'You're crazy! Who in the world would give Champions 4/10? That's for games that don't even run!' I think WWII Online got better than that.

"But it's a different marketplace," he said. "It's an incredibly demanding space now, and what was acceptable five years ago is not even worth discussing."

Idea for guild name: Spandex's Midnight Runners.

Turning Champions Online free-to-play is one idea Cryptic Studios has had to spruce up its MMO portfolio. The other: user-generated content. This will appear first in Star Trek Online, so will it carry over into Champions Online?

"Ultimately, yeah," said Emmert. "Eventually we would like to do it.

"User-generated content has always been part of our strategic plan for years and years and years. Ultimately I'd like to have it in every game we do in one version or another."

That doesn't mean that Cryptic's developers will simply abandon Star Trek Online and Champions Online to the community though. "No, no," Emmert insisted. "We'll still continue making content. It's just that now you've got more content to choose from. You've got the stuff created by the developers as well as the stuff created by your friends, other people and so forth."

Star Trek Online's user-generated content system is undergoing beta testing now. For existing games - and even for new project Neverwinter - UGC and F2P are on the cards. And Cryptic 3.0, as Emmert called it, has more ideas up its sleeves - several unannounced projects, for starters.

"A lot of our innovation is going to be coming in games that haven't been released yet. There are still things under development that we're working on at Cryptic.

"There's a project that I'm more involved with the design than I have been in a long time than anything," he added. "Something that's close to my heart. And so that's very exciting."

"It is definitely not fantasy-based. I can say that. It is something that's pretty exciting. It's under wraps and hopefully we can talk about it soon."

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  • Chris Gardiner #1 2 years ago

    "If people want Star Trek to go free-to-play then get in and play Champions and help make it a great success, because that would send a strong message."

    So if you want your favourite stately space opera game to go F2P you need to throw money at a biff-pow superhero game for however many months? Er. Not sure we'll see a flood of that.
  • PearOfAnguish #2 2 years ago

    No point paying for most mmos now eh? Just wait six months after release and they'll either be dead or free to play.
  • Spekingur #3 2 years ago

    @Chris Gardiner: Hur? Are you talking about spending money on a sub fee? He is obviously talking about playing CO when it goes F2P. Playing a F2P only costs you time and downloaded bytes.
  • TheTingler #4 2 years ago

    Okay Jack, if you're reading: I WILL 100% DEFINITELY GET BACK INTO STAR TREK ONLINE IF IT GOES FREE-TO-PLAY. Day one. Captain Kidd of the USS Adventure will fly again.

    I really enjoy playing it, but it's not something I feel warrants a subscription fee - which is too high additionally, especially with my personal favourite MMO Lord of the Rings Online now F2P in Europe.
  • Eraysor #5 2 years ago

    I'd definitely give STO another shot if it was F2P.
  • Eraysor #6 2 years ago

    I'd definitely give STO another shot if it was F2P.
  • iokthemonkey #7 2 years ago

    It just comes off as a desperate attempt to boost CO's numbers by riding the coat-tails of the Star Trek licence. I actually enjoyed CO more than STO but I don't think either are particularly great and given you can play LOTRO, DDO and Runes of Magic - all of which are vastly superior games - I doubt I'll be going back, especially having been told that my previously-rolled characters will no longer be available unless I pay for them to be transfered to another server. Way to alienate your previous subscribers!
  • Azryial #8 2 years ago

    If indeed STO does go to a F2P model I wonder what (if any) perks a lifetime subscriber would get
  • Ryboy #9 2 years ago

    Stop making things free to play! I barely see the outside world as it is!
  • DFawkes #10 2 years ago

    @Azryial

    I currently lifetime sub to both CO and STO, so I'd imagine they'd do similar to CO - lifetime subscribers just become lifetime Gold members with all perks, including the 2 Adventure Pack expansions and unlimited customisation.

    Going by that model for STO, I'm guessing they'd lock F2P players to certain races with fixed attributes (such as a Human specced as a Tactical Team Leader, or a Bajoran Healer) and maybe lock off a couple of sectors of space like the Species 8472 occupied Orellius Sector, or maybe the most recent Weekly Episode seasons.

    I'm all for it though, if it goes free-to-play we'll see more active servers, which is good for everyone. I hope that people would try it out if it was, I know the current demo is heavily restricted and barely lets you play anything.
  • sink257 #11 2 years ago

    Still waiting for them to announce what they want to do with STO, not too ready to throw my money at another months sub. (Haven't subbed since august though)

    And for the love of Khan make the sub/premium fee $10, it would make it so much sweeter.
  • PearOfAnguish #12 2 years ago

    Is DDO worth a punt, then?
  • Scimarad #13 2 years ago

    I reckon I'd play STO if it was free to play. Unfortunately if it follows the CO route then customizing the look of the ships (which was one of my favourite parts) will probably be reserved for the people who are paying.
  • iokthemonkey #14 2 years ago

    DDO is pretty good in small doses. It's very fragmented, more like a hub with quests rather than a game world, but if you've played (and like) Guild Wars, you'll probably feel at home in DDO.
  • goatjugsoup #15 2 years ago

    "If people want Star Trek to go free-to-play then get in and play Champions and help make it a great success, because that would send a strong message."

    First of all, I have to say that is very cheeky of them. As of right now I have 0 interest in Champions and a mild interest in STO. Me giving STO a go is in the realm of what is possible, me playing champions to make STO F2P is not. Instead of making up marketing BS like go and pay for this game and maybe this other game that you actually want won't cost you so much, they should just look at how other MMOs that are F2P are going by themselves, for example Guild Wars.
  • sircatoknot #16 2 years ago

    There is no doubt STO is going F2P. Jacks own words, http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-1... iin another article states you need to have F2P or some sort of F2P system to be competitive.


    Note, however, that if you're a subscriber-turned-Silver member then you'll have to pay to move to a Silver server. "You have to pay to transfer your characters over or you could just start from scratch again," revealed Emmert.

    Really? I have to pay to transfer my existing toon(s) to another server? There is to be a gold and silver server? Dude, I hope this is a mistake, because I have no intentions of working all the way back to 40 or paying to down grade a toon.

    Is it me, or is this F2P is slowly turning into a joke like having to pay for VB?
  • hobojebus #17 2 years ago

    They did a Q&A saying they have no plans to go free to play, and thats the latest official word i can find.