Xbox 360 sales hit 19 million worldwide
But Microsoft has to admit Wii is winning.
Microsoft has sold 10 million Xbox 360 consoles in the US and reached 19 million sales worldwide, the platform holder announced yesterday evening. Xbox Live now has a membership of over 12 million.
Don Mattrick, senior vice president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business and Devices Division, said the console was "leading the charge in the US and abroad".
He also implied that Xbox 360 would win the console war with Sony overall, adding that, "History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle."
However, Microsoft representatives were forced to issue an embarrassing clarification after Kotaku questioned a claim in the first line of the company's press release that it was "the first current-generation gaming console to break the 10 million mark in the US".
It turns out that the company meant to say "current gen high definition console", rather than current generation console, because, as anyone who read Nintendo's financials knows, the Wii has already hit 10.6 million units in the US as part of a worldwide installed base of 24.45 million.
(Update, 16th May 7.54am: Nintendo subsequently issued a release on Thursday claiming it had reached 9.5 million US sales according to NPD data, suggesting we've made an error! Checking Nintendo's consolidated financials, under "Sales Units in Ten Thousands" in the "Life-to-Date Mar. 08" column it claims "1,061" for "The Americas" - and "The Americas" rather than "US" is probably key to our mistake. Basically, we reckon it's Canada's fault. Apologies. Microsoft does indeed win.)
The announcement also comes just a week after Sony claimed PS3 was outselling 360 in Europe, and a day after Microsoft's great rival said it had reached 12.81 million units sold since its November 2006 launch.
Xbox 360 launched around the world in November 2005, and had sold 11 million by April 2007, before hitting 17.7 million by January 2008.
Yesterday Microsoft also reiterated its claim to one of the highest software attach-rates (the amount of software sold per console owner) in the industry - Don Mattrick's colleague John Schappert having told us at the Game Developers Conference that it stood at "7 games purchased per console".
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Oh and as a disclaimer, this isn't a slight against any user base, system or anything in any shape or form. Its a curiousity, as I said there are PS3 users who it seems have gone for a newer system for whatever reason... have any 360 owners here done the same thing?
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The Wii has been an commercial success beyond anyone's imagination, leaving Microsoft and Sony behind sweating, trying to catch-up and fighting over the crumbs left on the table. Both of them try to spin their numbers, but they cannot shake our feeling that they have somehow failed where Nintendo succeeded.
BTW, if I'm a fanboy of anything that would have to be good games. So far the x360 has provided me some excellent choices, the Wii likewise and the PS3 probably will do just as well, if more of its exclusives appeal to me...
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I would also like to know how do we know when the war is won, anyway?
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"most people who upgraded ps3's just upgrade the hard drive as the rest doesn't change as much as with the 360."
Er that's not true at all. My 60gb PS3 plays PS2 games, takes my camera memory sticks and is wisper quiet, where as the 40gb PS3 has less USB ports, no memory card slots and can't play ps2 games.It also has 20gb less storage space. My friends who want PS3 keep asking me if the 80gb full featured back compat model is ever coming over here.
The 360 is the machine that hasn't really changed much. Aside from internal motherboard fixes, every 360 plays every 360 game and has the same (all be it pitiful) backwards compatibility, usb ports etc. etc. available.
I thought we were past the fanboy mis-information days.......
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I think the PS3 could still really take off once it hits a sub-£200 price point and become as big as the PS2 was. With a ten year lifespan projected for it I think it'll exceed the 24 million units the GameCube sold easily. Also the PS3 has the advantage of selling reasonably well in all three major territories something the 360 doesn't as Japan just don't want to know. All the PS3 needs is more must-have games and a cheaper price point and I believe it'll push the Xbox 360 into third place within the next few years. The ultimate winner will be the system with the longest retail lifespan as than means more units sold. Will Nintendo sell the Wii for another eight years for example? Will Microsoft still continue selling the Xbox 360 alongside its successor in four years time or discontinue it like they did the Xbox?
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Err, so Nintendo is the winner then!
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Sony will, eventually realise that too. Boxes come and go, the communities that services like Live (or to some extent, iTunes) are building stay.
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Now -- watch that lead rapidly erode, folkies.
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You are really opening a can of worms there as I'm sure there are millions of PS3 owners who would beg to differ.
"there are over 100 millions ps-2 users in the world.i am curius what their next console will be"
Well, I'm one of those (I own a PSP as well and have been PlayStation 'loyal' since PS1) but I have a few criteria that I want Sony to fulfil first, before I make the jump:
1. Cheaper console price.
2. Backwards compatibility re-instated.
3. DualShock3 bundled as standard.
If they meet these then I will consider buying one, but if they don't, I think my PS2 and PSP have plenty of games to keep me happy for a long time to come.
If I get real tempted, then I might pick up a second hand X360 and some second-hand games.
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I doubt that, I alone have (had) four PS2s.
Err..., and I have 3 360's now, guess what it doesn't hurt..., go figure...
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but I have a few criteria that I want Sony to fulfil first, before I make the jump:
1. Cheaper console price.
2. Backwards compatibility re-instated.
3. DualShock3 bundled as standard. "
Heard. Well the Dualshock is a absolutely must. Backwards comp. will problely never happend.. dam you sony.
ill probaly buy a ps3, for the sole reason it is quiet, and have a few exclusives worth getting.
Ill play the xbox exclusives when i get a stronger pc.
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I wasn't, unfortunately. :/
"BTW, if I'm a fanboy of anything that would have to be good games. So far the x360 has provided me some excellent choices, the Wii likewise and the PS3 probably will do just as well, if more of its exclusives appeal to me..."
I never implied that you where a fanboy.
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An interesting 'battle' indeed.
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Btw hows the ELite and the RROD thing, did that ever fix it? Would like to get an elite tbh.
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Instead, look in the gameshops how much shelve space is devoted to the consoles that you are looking for, and the type of games that are shown. This will tell you the retail support, which is important and I should have known when I bought a gamecube. Then look at the upcoming announced games.This will tell you if your system will be gathering dust in the near future. I knew that when I ditched the gamecube.
That's about it. Don't buy a system based on hardware features or the race for leader (best supported system) is still ongoing. Then see which system fits in your budget (don't forget periphicals if you want them, such as controllers - wifi adapters etc).
Its about the games and the amount of money you're spending in my book. whether it can ten-eighty ai, pee or wee is secondary.
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Btw hows the ELite and the RROD thing, did that ever fix it? Would like to get an elite tbh.
My launch Elite (which I bought last August) RROD 3 days before GTA4 came out. I managed to get it swapped over at the GAME store I bought it from as it was within warranty so no major grief. As far as I'm aware Elites built after December of last year have a better cooling system and chipset so you should be a little safer now but RROD is still very much a problem you have to face when you own a '360.
In other words if you own and XBox 360 expect it to die. It happens and there is nothing you can do about it apart from curse the name of Microsoft until your throat hurts.
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I love the 'ignore the Wii' mantra. It was firmly in the 3 way battle before it came out (and even for the first Christmas) but now has been excluded by everyone on spurious technicalities
In other news Nintendo claims it has sold more Pink Hardware than any other manufacturer, but Sony hits back with "highest selling 1.765:1 aspect ratio portable gaming device".
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This console war is getting very hot.
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If so why?
For starters I think that the hardware is getting too big and too noisy, and I can't ever see a PS3 or 360 slimmed down to PStwo sizes.
Also I guess that gamers now occupy all of the age ranges they ever will, or at least very old gamers don't spend enough on games to make a big difference to sales figures.
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None of the games you mention are guaranteed big hitters when it comes to selling consoles (like GTA IV and Halo 3 were). MGS4 is probably the most likely of those to sell PS3's, but given the performance of MGS3 I think the series is becoming an increasingly niche interest, it's just too japanese and too injoke/cutscene/plot driven for many gamers to get excited about.
If you still think that big jap games like Final fantasy and MGS (both of which I love and can't wait for btw) are worldwide console sellers then you're sadly mistaken. Even the mighty RE4 couldn't save the gamecube - and it's one of the best games of all time and a simple action based shooter that western audiences could relate to.
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But the game was released when the cube was already dead. The PS3 is really only just beginning (though might be dead (or victorious) by the time FF XIII is finally released...
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For PS3 I have 4 games
and for the 360 I have 24, nuff said.
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you talk bollocks I own both consoles. But the slow start to the 360 was becuase everyone was holding out for the super doooper monolith called the PS3 which would crush all in its path.
Instead when the PS3 arrived they realised it was underpowered graphically to the 360, can barely output 720p and has completely naff online setup although it is free, AA has to be turned off and framerates are hit or miss. With most cross platform games being better for the 360 and the greater live implementation its no wonder the PS3 is lagging.
The only serious negative at the 360to be 100% honest is its reliability.
Killzone 2 and Haze look to be all hype and photoshopped screen shots. Even the final motorstorm build was way off its initial jaw dropping video.
With the xbox 360 still selling well even now and Gears 2 on the way and , devil may cry, ace combat, GTAIV now cross platform the PS3 will probably take a very long time to catch the 360 up.
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And the 60GB PS3 US seems the best model because of its backward compatability.
Developers make some good games and stop slagging the systems this is starting to sound like an O.P.E.C. meeting.
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I know one thing though.
Sony will release its PS3 successor at-least 3 years after the 360 successor and the Woo, i.e microsoft will pull the plug much earlier, and sony will wait and focus on building a robust network service. the PS4 will not directly compete against the xbox720.
Its clear that sony's current main focus is building a robust online network, they realize the amount of opportunities there, i hate quoting miiiguel but it is true, boxes come and go, the online infrastructure is always there for the company.
The way i see these numbers, it tells me that by the end of 2009 PS3 world-wide install base will be on par with the 360 install base, and we will start to hear more about the the 360 successor.
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You paint a (gasp, surprise) rosy picture for the PS3's sales, but you're a bit off in saying they've cut the lead by over a million this year alone.
Let's assume those 12.8m and 19m are actually sold and not shipped, as highly unlikely as that is.
Here's what we "know" as near fact...
US:
360 - 10m
PS3 - 4.5
360 = +5.5m
Japan:
360 - .5m
PS3 - 2m
PS3 = +1.5
UK (approx.)
360 - 2m
PS3 - 1m
360 = +1m
That leaves...
360 - 6.5m
PS3 - 5.3m
360 = +1.2 (other)
The PS3 for this quarter has gained 60k TOTAL on the 360 in the US and, as of recent reports from Chart-Track, the 360 and PS3 have been relatively close in the UK. The PS3 has been averaging 50-60k per month in Japan, which would equal approx. 240k this year. Where is the remainder of that 1m coming from? You want me to believe that the rest of Europe has sold 1m more PS3's than 360's in 4 months?
I also like your assumption that the PS3 has sold more consoles due to GTA IV, but we've yet to see any evidence of that. I'm not saying it won't happen, but we've yet to see any results.
BTW, NPD #'s have been released and the 360 sold more than the PS3. So much for GTA pushing more PS3's than 360's, aye?
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PS3
Pros.
Bluray player
Superior build quality
Good reliability
Runs cool and quiet
Can adjust HD yourself rather than get ripped off my microsoft.
Cons
Slow Blu Ray read speed so mandatory installs on the HD on some games to speed up loading. But will soon use up the HD.
Multiformat games are woeful compared to the 360 (except burnout, GTAIV, COD4).
Lack of AA in games.
To compensate for the lack off AA and framerate some developers use the PS3 vaseline effect which makes the game look soft and blurry but gives them a better frame rate eg Half Life 2, Viking and the Haze demo.
PSnetwork isnt a patch on xbox live.
Sixaxis controls were a gimmick to appease the loss of dual shock
Some exclusive games to PS3 have now gone multiformat eg devil may cry, ace combat, GTAIV and sold better on the 360.
Sony bullshit/ previews of games never seem to look anything like the final build quality.
Xbox 360
Pros
Fantastic xbox live service
Multiformat games are superior (Sharper, smoother, better framerates)
Currently more killer app games in release
Games are slightly cheaper/more budget titles available
More games available
Most developers use the 360 as its lead development format ensuring games are optimised for the 360.
Can also use VGA output the PS3 cant.
CONS
Poor build quality/Very Loud (newer models are quieter tho)
Unreliable (although that seems to be improving with newer Falcon and Jasper models)
No Blu ray
You have to pay for xbox live
Feel free to add your own but none of the pros for the PS3 has much to do with games, says it all really.
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360:
*Was hurried to be ready in time for christmas/the holiday(we know they'd have been better off delaying the launch a few months for testing... it just did themselves and the consumers far more harm than good).
* Was the first simultanious worldwide(near enough) console release.
* STRUGGLED TO MEET DEMAND... unlike the PS3 that has never seen stock shortages.
* Suffered from reliability issues which reached mass market and impacted sales too, I think slowly but surely the trust in the reliability is coming back, Falcon seems to have been a great improvement and Jasper will hopefully be the final nail in the coffin for RROD(Im hoping for quieter 360s with its release... but that would mean new DVD drives and perhaps other measures).
MS are in a better position now than they were 12 months ago and 360 looks more appealing than ever(the price is better, theres plenty of good games with much more to come, the Live community and its services are bigger and better than ever and the RROD shouldnt be a problem for new buyers anymore), so I wouldnt be suprised if they have a much better year this year at all.
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Especially in Japan and Europe.
'He also implied that Xbox 360 would win the console war with Sony overall, adding that, "History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle."'
Naturally. Even though the 360 (only) sells 20% faster than its predecessor.
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