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Euro 80GB PS3 priced and dated News
PlayStation 3 News by Tom Bramwell
Sony has confirmed our report that the 80GB PlayStation 3 will launch in Europe shortly.
SCEE president David Reeves confirmed the console will go on sale at GBP 299 / EUR 399 on 27th August in Europe, except for Russia which follows a fortnight later.
"We will be doing promotional bundles from the middle of September to the end of December at various prices," Reeves said at a Sony event in LA today.
"The 80GB replaces the 40GB. Please do not ask me if we're going to go down in price for the 40GB because I will give you the answer, the answer is no," Reeves said.
"This has been planned by Kaz who is here today and the team for many, many months. We have very, very few 40GBs, especially in the UK market, and we'll be out of stock probably by the time we launch on August 27th the 80GB."
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 06:24
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So by my count, that's the SEVENTH different model of the PS3, yes?
20GB NTSC w/hardware BC (Japan only) 60GB NTSC w/hardware BC 60GB PAL w/software BC 40GB PAL no BC 80GB NTSC w/software BC 80GB NTSC no BC 80GB PAL no BC? This'll be a really good experiment in finding out just exactly how stupid UK gamers are. Anyone buying a PS3 in the next six weeks should be removed from the shop in a straitjacket. |
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"So by my count, that's the SEVENTH different model of the PS3, yes?
20GB NTSC w/hardware BC (Japan only) 60GB NTSC w/hardware BC 60GB PAL w/software BC 40GB PAL no BC 80GB NTSC w/software BC 80GB NTSC no BC 80GB PAL no BC? " While your'e at it why not add to your list the 90nm and 65nm iterations as well...oh and i forgot you should add the gunmetal grey as well....heck why not even add different packaging as SKU's as well. Should get you into double figures pretty quickly. |
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paul_haine
17/07/08 @ 06:45
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"The 80GB replaces the 40GB. Please do not ask me if we're going to go down in price for the 40GB because I will give you the answer, the answer is no,"
What an oddly-defensive statement. And oddly phrased as well - don't ask me because I'll answer and here is the answer. Odd. /smokes pipe |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 07:17
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While your'e at it why not add to your list the 90nm and 65nm iterations as well...oh and i forgot you should add the gunmetal grey as well....heck why not even add different packaging as SKU's as well
Because I'm not a brainless, hyper-defensive fanboy twat? |
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Max_Powers
17/07/08 @ 07:18
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Sony, I'll buy one when the Dualshock 3 comes standard in the pack. Fix this!
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"Might have been better if Sony had discounted the 40 GB HDD model by £20-£30 and sold the new 80 GB HDD model at £299 but, hey, I'm no expert so I'm sure they have their reasons for keeping the PS3 as the most expensive console on the market."
Why should they. Must people won't notice. They pick up a box marked PS3 and bring it to checkout. I told 2 or 3 people who where buying PS3's for xmas gifts last year to get out early and buy the 60gb before it dissappeared, but did they listen. Imagine there dismay, when they saw my shiny 60Gb with 4 USB port, mem card slots and BC. Still feeling smug ;-) |
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@oreillymj
"I told 2 or 3 people who where buying PS3's for xmas gifts last year to get out early and buy the 60gb before it dissappeared, but did they listen. Imagine there dismay, when they saw my shiny 60Gb with 4 USB port, mem card slots and BC. Still feeling smug ;-) " As smug as me, with my shiny 350GB with 4 USB port, mem card slots and BC? ;-)
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This'll be a really good experiment in finding out just exactly how stupid UK gamers are. Anyone buying a PS3 in the next six weeks should be removed from the shop in a straitjacket.
I'm not so sure - there are some quite decent retailer-led bundles on the 40GB at the moment that would save you about £50 versus the costs of buying the console plus bundled items at full RRP. That's the cost of a DS3 and, say, a platinum game which pretty much gets you back to where you'd be with the 80GB. The only difference is that you'd have 40GB less storage, an extra game and a spare Sixaxis. The storage issue is actually quite easily rectified...
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This is definetely getting better, although its still not enough to lure from my 360.
The biggest problem is there is not an AAA game that I must play and can't play on my 360. I like the look of Drakes Fortune but that is not enough to justify a purchase. Blu-ray is interesting to some, I dont have a HD-TV so dont see the benefit of BR yet. Also remember we are in a credit crunch, I have to be the sole bread-winner as my girlfriend is out of work although I have a good job. And BR disc are just too expensive at the moment. Therefore I imagine lots of families are in a similar position and can no longer make impulse purchases like they used too and the PS3 falls into that category. |
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RandomTerrain
17/07/08 @ 09:13
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"The 80GB replaces the 40GB. Please do not ask me if we're going to go down in price for the 40GB because I will give you the answer, the answer is no,"
What an oddly-defensive statement. And oddly phrased as well - don't ask me because I'll answer and here is the answer. Odd. /smokes pipe ---------------------------- @ paul_haine +1 Haha, that is so true, and it made me laugh quite a lot! |
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@Max_Powers: At the E3 conference the box they held up for the new 80Gb model did have the dual shock 3 logo on the front so if they are going for a single global SKU then that should mean DS3 packaged in europe as well I'd guess they've stopped making Sixaxis and have been using Europe to get rid of the exess stop, hense the cheap 2 controller packs.
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@m0thr4 - almost as smug. My PAL 60Gb now has a 320Gb HDD
I have a lot of respect for Nintendo. They have had the same console since launch. That's what a console should be. You switch it on and load a game. The day 1 features are more or less what everyone get's during the lifetime of the console. MS started changing the console business into the PC business (release early, patch often) because their console wasn't finished (no HDMI etc) and they wanted to match the PS3 feature for feature. That gave Sony the excuse to release different SKU's even though their motives were financial. |
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actionfitz
17/07/08 @ 09:37
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"The 80GB replaces the 40GB. Please do not ask me if we're going to go down in price for the 40GB because I will give you the answer, the answer is no,"
what a cunt. basically he is saying - 'I know you'd like to hear we are finally making the PS3 affordable to the average Joe... but my answer is: Average Joe can Suck the back of my balls!' :/ |
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what a cunt.
basically he is saying - 'I know you'd like to hear we are finally making the PS3 affordable to the average Joe... but my answer is: Average Joe can Suck the back of my balls!' lol made me chuckle! im looking to get another ps3 (my last one was stolen by gay tramps!) so might get 80gb model if i can afford it! |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 10:25
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No, your just a reactionary shock-journo with no work.
Yep. Well, apart from 21 pages of features in news-stand mags this month, of course. Still, nobody's called me "reactionary" in about 20 years, so kudos on that one. You get a bonus point if you can explain to us what "reactionary" actually means, you silly twat. The point being, of course, that (a) the 360 SKUs haven't been functionally crippled - they've had stuff ADDED to them, not taken away - and are consumer-upgradeable (want to turn your Arcade into an Elite? Just buy the 120GB HD), and (b) Microsoft never said "Having multiple SKUs just confuses the customer." http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_pag... Sony were the ones who made a big fuss about having a single SKU, and are now onto No.7. |
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Max_Powers
17/07/08 @ 10:32
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Good to hear about the Dualshock 3 thing. Looks like I'll be owning a PS3 this fall. And buy Planet Earth on Blue ray :)
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"Sony were the ones who made a big fuss about having a single SKU, and are now onto No.7. "
Again.. negative spin. They have only one current SKU in Europe. Two in the US.. which will become one also. Not sure about Japan. Yes, they have had several revisions of the PS3 hardware but never more than 1-2 current SKU in each region which was the point.
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rhinoxious
17/07/08 @ 11:07
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£300 seems like fauirly good value for money, if you want a blu-ray player, media streaming, wireless, games console.
But I do worry that further generations of consoles are going to be increasingly burdened with non-gaming accoutrements that we have to buy in order to play the games. I doubt Sony wil make another console that costs £300 this long after launch, in the same way microsoft won't make the same reliability mistakes again, or make a console based around other peoples compeonents (Xbox1). |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 11:20
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a celebrated PS2 hater
I'm a WHAT now? Where might these "celebrated" expressions of hatred be found, exactly? Just as a matter of interest, how many of those 21 pages of features this month are for Microsoft publications? None. (Unless you count the PC as a "Microsoft" format, in which case it's five.) |
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"But I do worry that further generations of consoles are going to be increasingly burdened with non-gaming accoutrements that we have to buy in order to play the games. "
What burdens? Just because PS3 and 360 can be used for many non-games things, doesn't stand in the way of playing games. To me it seems silly not to to use the hardware for more stuff thru software. The console is not more expensive because of this or stand in the way of games. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 11:31
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Is this some of my PS2 hatred?
http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co... http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co... http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co... http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co... http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co... http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.co... Ludicrous as it is to have to point out this stunningly obvious fact, I'm not a "shill" for anyone. In fact, I've NEVER written for a 360 mag in my life (nor an Xbox one, come to that), and only yesterday I was lavishly extolling the virtues of Super Stardust HD on my forum, along with some of the worthwhile features of the PS3. But over-sensitive comedy dolts like yourself are incapable of accepting anything so dull as factual evidence. Sony have gone back on pretty much everything they ever said about the PS3, and it's the job of journalists to keep track of it. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 11:47
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Reactionary, an reactionary person, someone who reacts badly to change, or overreacts.
Yep, as I thought - you're using words you don't have the first fucking clue about the meaning of. "Reactionary" actually means "opposed to progress: opposed to progressive social or political change", which is why people normally use it in a political context. Alterations to the specifications of a videogame console are about as far away from "progressive social or political change" as it's possible to get, especially when most of them are backwards steps. Or are you suggesting that removing BC, USB ports and memory card slots is "progressive"? The 360 hasn't had ANY functionality removed. If you don't want a hard drive you don't have to buy one. If you do, it's still much cheaper than a PS3, even if you want one with a massive HD three times the size of the current PS3 one. So what's your point? |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 11:49
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MY God Campbell, enough with the shill- hyping of your pissant vanity site! (you can't help yourself can you?)
Are you actually saying that you show no knowing prejudice against Sony in your "writings"? Yes, obviously that's exactly what I'm saying. And I've backed it up with evidence, unlike your hysterical and baseless claims that I'm a "celebrated PS2 hater" or a "Microsoft shill". Should we keep holding our breath waiting for you to back up any of these tedious lies, or just add you to the idiot list now to save time? |
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Im going to stick my nose in and get in on this argument, mainly becasue I have nothing better to do.
Rev Stuart Campbell: First off let me start by laughing at your site. One of the worst I've seen in a while. If you don't want a hard drive you don't have to buy one. If you do, it's still much cheaper than a PS3, What if you want a hard drive, wireless, online play and the ability to recharge controllers? Is it still cheaper? And thatswithout a 'this-gen' optical drive. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 12:06
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What if you want a hard drive, wireless, online play and the ability to recharge controllers? Is it still cheaper? And thatswithout a 'this-gen' optical drive.
No, then it's almost exactly the same price, except that you get backwards compatibility and a decent catalogue of games thrown in too. But if you DON'T want all that stuff (I connect my 360 to the PC with a £3 cable, recharge the controller with ordinary rechargeable batteries that cost £6 including charger, and couldn't give a shit about playing online with hideous retards), the 360 doesn't force you to buy it anyway - you have a choice. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 12:10
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You called Sony out for introducing yet another SKU, Arbiter and I pointed out that not only has the 360 got a equal number of SKus too.
So what? The point was that Microsoft never said they'd do otherwise. Their policy has always been to offer consumers choice and they've stuck to it. Sony have backtracked on almost everything they ever claimed about the PS3, including that backwards compatibility was now a "core function" of the Playstation brand. There have in fact been multiple PS3 SKUs in every territory for the majority of its life. I didn't even mention the 360. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 12:20
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Considering you were bragging earlier on about your 21 pages of copy in current publications,
Merely correcting an erroneous assertion. You chose to jump in by implying that they were for Microsoft publications, only to be embarrassed by the fact that not a single one of them was. I fail to see how linking to a handful of reviews of arcade ports is in any way indicative of your overall position. It's also not representative of your attitude and behaviour on the various web fora you (have) post(ed) to. And yet still you can't provide a single example of my "hatred" to counter them with. I don't give a shit about platforms, and I never have. I write about games. If there are great games on the PS2, I write about them (and the majority of my WoS reviews have in fact been of PS2 titles). If a brilliant game like SSHD or Ridge Racer 7 comes out for the PS3, I say so. If the PS3 has excellent features like Remote Play, DVD upscaling and a decent media centre, I say so. I wrote a balanced and fair comparison of the two machines on WoS, crediting the PS3 as superior in a number of areas. The fact is that everytime you pop up in circumstances like this, you present yourself as a particularly blatant shill for the 360 brand. As an example here we are in a thread relating to the enhanced package Sony are releasing in August, your contribution has been to spin this news in a negative light. I merely posted a simple unarguable fact, that this is the 7th distinct PS3 SKU. I made no comment on it. If you choose to interpret that as "negative spin", it tells us far more about your tiresome kneejerk fanboyism than it does about me. And for the record, I don't consider this PS3 "enhanced". It's significantly inferior to the one under my telly, because 20GB of unnecessary extra HD space (at the current rate my 60GB HD won't be full until 2021) is a very poor trade for backwards compatibility, extra USB ports and the rather useful memory card slots. It might be enhanced compared to the shitty crippled model currently on sale, but that's a bit like me stealing your wallet and expecting you to be pleased when I give you back your travelcard. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 12:28
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So a £150 arcade console, plus a £65 hdd, plus £55 wireless, plus (at LEAST) £50 online, plus (at LEAST) £6 for a charger is the same as a £299 PS3 which has HDMI connectivity and blu-ray drive?
20GB hard drives for the 360 cost about £30. A year's Xbox Live Gold is £27. A wireless adapter is £49. So the total price to upgrade a 360 Arcade is about £270, which is still cheaper than a PS3. But I don't give a crap about a wireless adapter or Live Gold or Blu-Ray, so the sensible comparison is a Premium for £190 against a PS3 for £299. And for about the 4th time - I never said multiple SKUs were a bad thing. Microsoft offer consumers choice, whereas Sony just keep screwing with the system specs so people never know what they're getting from one month to the next. Amazingly, you seem to be trying to turn this into a selling point. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 12:29
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You called out Sony for having 7 SKUs, and they patently haven't, ever had that many simultaneously.
I never said they did, because that would quite obviously be untrue. |
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"20GB hard drives for the 360 cost about £30. A year's Xbox Live Gold is £27. A wireless adapter is £49. So the total price to upgrade a 360 Arcade is about £270, which is still cheaper than a PS3. But I don't give a crap about a wireless adapter or Live Gold or Blu-Ray, so the sensible comparison is a Premium for £190 against a PS3 for £299"
If you want a comparison for your own personal use. then it is meaningless you even mentioning it as there are no like for like (or similar specs) products from MS or Sony. Try comparing apples with apples not apples with pears. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 13:17
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If you want a comparison for your own personal use. then it is meaningless you even mentioning it as there are no like for like (or similar specs) products from MS or Sony. Try comparing apples with apples not apples with pears.
Hngh. I did that. I said that for as close to comparable specs as you can get, they came out about the same, which they do. On the PS3 you'll also have a Blu-Ray drive, whereas on the 360 you'll have decent backwards compatibility, rumble joypad as standard, and a wide catalogue of excellent games. The point is that with 360 you can CHOOSE which features you want and spend whatever amount of money suits you best. With the PS3 you can only buy the most expensive model, even if that means paying for lots of stuff you don't want. |
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Rev. Stuart Campbell
17/07/08 @ 14:36
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To annoy stupid pricks too lazy to read the thread properly.
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