Epic focusing on console titles

By Ellie Gibson Published 14 February, 2008

PC gaming in "disarray", says Cliffy B

Epic's Cliff Bleszinski has said that the studio is focusing on producing console titles for the time being, claiming PC gaming is currently in "disarray".

"I think people would rather make a game that sells 4.5 million copies than a million and Gears is at 4.5 million right now on the 360," he told MTV Multiplayer.

"I think the PC is just in disarray... What's driving the PC right now is Sims-type games and WOW and a lot of stuff that's in a web-based interface. You just click on it and play it. That's the direction PC is evolving into."

So with PC gaming all messed up, what's a development studio to do but stick with good old consoles?

"For me, the PC is kind of the secondary part of what we're doing," confirmed Bleszinski. "It's important for us, but right now making AAA games on consoles is where we're at."

CliffyB declined to name said games, refusing to be drawn on speculation that maybe, just maybe Epic will make a sequel to its multi-million selling global hit Gears of War. However, he did say Epic is sticking to making games for the demographic it's familiar with.

"I don't want to win over [someone's] little college sister, because that's not the kind of game I do," he said. "I'm not going to make f***ing Cooking Mama." Jolly good. It's sh**.

We'll be catching up with Epic's other outspoken exec, Mark Rein, at GDC next week, so come back soon for more exclusive refusals to discuss Gears of War 2.

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  • Lexx87 #1 4 years ago

    Cliffy B rocks! I said in some other random comments PC sucks and I got berated. Cheers Cliff!

  • Res #2 4 years ago

    Whatever, just make your games for the PS3 then so I can use a keyboard and mouse to play them. Or swear at Microsoft a lot until they let you use a keyboard and mouse on their console.

  • Tzetrik #3 4 years ago

    pclulz

  • Madafunkola #4 4 years ago

    Cooking Mama Lolz!

  • symbiote #5 4 years ago

    This gen really killled the PC. With the quality of graphics we have on PS3/360, what moron is seriously going to invest mega bucks in high end PCs and keep on upgrading?

    Couch and thumbsticks FTW

  • gallow #6 4 years ago

    He's just pissed off because UT3 did not sell on the PC.

  • erp #7 4 years ago

    There's no "I" in "team", Cliffy.

  • muscleblade #8 4 years ago

    Great decision. PC gaming is dying with a super console like 360 availaible for a rather small amount of cash.

  • aldo_14 #9 4 years ago

    seems reactionary. Did UT3 offer anything new? The PC crowd are quite discerning.

    Displacement mapped crotchguards?

  • Res #10 4 years ago

    "Did UT3 offer anything new?"

    Nothing at all. More of the same, and some of it done worse infact.
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 09:28

  • login_name #11 4 years ago

    For me, the PC is kind of the secondary part of what we're doing

    It shows, UTIII is poo compared to the original.

  • JonFE #12 4 years ago

    You should never forget where you came from, Mr.CliffyB...
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 09:29

  • MaxiSleep #13 4 years ago

    Micorosoft are responsible for the current pc gaming mess because of Vista.

    Pc gaming itself is not as expensive as people make out. **IF** you already have a pc (as people with a broadband connection generally do) then the additional cost of a decent mid range graphics card and a bit of RAM is not expensive compared. But you do need to know what you are doing which is why the casual market do not embrace it.

    Unfortunately Microsoft have pushed a unfinished o/s with no compelling features on the marketplace.

    If Vista was not drm crippled and 64 but only then the PC would have been in a position to be way beyond the current gen consoles within 2 years. Ah well.

  • Artemus #14 4 years ago

    Doesn't PC gaming die ever year?

  • bad09 #15 4 years ago

    Ouch! I know UT3 didn't sell well but it must have really bombed for them to abandon the PC!

  • Rev.StuartCampbell #16 4 years ago

    Fucking Cooking Mama would be a massive seller, surely? She's kinda hot.

  • space_ace #17 4 years ago

    they are, less framerate gives time to discern more

  • sharpfish #18 4 years ago

    How very short sighted of EPIC. The players who put them where they are today won't forget this, I hope it blows up in their faces, Gears was cool, UT3 on PS3 is 'cool' but frankly they are nothing compared to the legacy and goodwill built up by communites around the original Unreal, UT, UT2k3 and the engine/mapping scene.

    The reason UT3 was so poorly received on PC (even though I liked the gameplay) was precisely BECAUSE it was obvious their focus lay with the consoles (just like most of the other UE3 licencess it seems - esp 2k with bioshockinggame pc version).

    Well, sure go where the gold is but don't come crawling back the the 'always present' PC market when you realise what twat's you've been. Oh joy - the future of First Person Shooters curtailed to work primarily with dual sticks, how's that for fucking progression! duh.

    And yes the PC has been dying for years and still manages to get almost every decent big game going, for less with better control (for FPS anyway). Racers and fighters are generally more at home on consoles, FPS will always be better on PC and that's not just the control issue (yes I know you can hook up m/kb to ps3 etc).

    Oh and Cliffy B once gave me feedback on one of my maps and was quite insulting, I still like him thanks to the Unreal/UT games of the past but this is a real kick in the teeth for the Unreal fanatics.

    @spaceace > I got 150fps average on FULL quality in UT3 @ 1440x900 + 2xAA on my 8800gtx, how is that 'less framerate' than 30fps console version with reduced res and graphical quality? jesus there are so many biased idiots about. (i'm not, I've owned a 360 for the last 18 months till it died finally, and I'm seriously thinking of getting a PS3 for the exclusives, mainly GT5 and also as BluRay player now it's safely won) - My ds keeps me happy in between all of that. :)
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 09:45

  • FlamingCarrot #19 4 years ago

    I'm with sharpfish. My 8800gtx PC kicks the crap out of both consoles and i own a 360 + PS3. The bottom line is that console games = massive revenue. Never write off the PC though.

  • space_ace #20 4 years ago

    lol thanks mate you just made my day

  • login_name #21 4 years ago

    Great decision. PC gaming is dying with a super console like 360 availaible for a rather small amount of cash.

    I don't know how many times I've heard that, even from my own mouth, and yet it's still not dead. Someone might wanna tell Blizzard to stop earning money, "Haven't you heard? PC gaming is dying, we need to jump ship pronto!". Meanwhile, Mr. Peck walks around the server room issuing his final orders, "Shut these off, shut these all off."

    It's also worth pointing out that by the time you've bought all your games and peripherals for the "cheap" 360, the price will have shot up a huge amount. So long as you don't jump on every piece of hardware that comes out, I find the price of PC gaming very comparable over the life span of a console.

    By the way, I own both a gaming PC and consoles. I play console games on the consoles and PC games on the PC. I don't like PC games on consoles, especially on a controller, and console games tend to be pants on PC.

  • Dynamize #22 4 years ago

    Doesn't PC gaming die ever year?

    Supposedly has been every year since about 1988, yeah. Yet, here we are.

    I'm trying to think of something Epic did that I cared about. Uh, UT 2004 was quite good; only for Red Orchestra though...er...ummm...well, I guess their engines are quite nice maybe?
    Oh well, bon voyage Cliffy. You'll be missed I, um, guess.

  • FlamingCarrot #23 4 years ago

    ” My girlfriend brought me to this metalcore show — Killswitch Engage was phenomenal and All That Remains. I realized, you know what? That’s the target audience for what I do. And I’m okay with that. I don’t want to win over their little college sister, because that’s not the kind of game I do."

    Well i'm out of Cliff's target audience then. This comment speaks volumes.

  • penhalion #24 4 years ago

    @Lexx87

    Actually I think you'll find that Unreal tourney on PC flopped big time. It's not PC that's the problem, it's Epic re-hasing their old game again and again. People finally got fed up of it. Dispite the graphics, unreal has zero tactical play and people have simply moved on from the jumpy shooty era of Halo and Unreal. COD4 unseating halo 3, rainbow vegas, gears and even ghost recon all being in the top section of the most played list on live is pretty much proof of that.

    We want games where your skill and not some random jumping is what determines how well you do.

  • Hughes. #25 4 years ago

    I wish someone would make "Fucking Cooking Mama", starring Nigella Lawson, for preference.

  • agparrot #26 4 years ago

    Won't anybody think of the mice?

    and keyboards?

    Shouldn't there be a huge fight here about control methods?

  • The-Bodybuilder #27 4 years ago

    >"You should never forget where you came from, Mr.CliffyB... "

    He came from a PC O_O?

    CliffyPC?

  • gingerpembers #28 4 years ago

    Well this sounds just like Carmack when Doom 3 seemingly underperformed.

    These devs seem to think that just because they made a game, its automaticaly awesome. Doom 3 didnt sell great because it wasnt very good! Although Carmack blames piracy, because, thats the only possible reason right?!

    Same for Epic, I didnt buy Gears because it was repetitive and the fun wore off after about 5 mins on 360. I played the UT3 demo for about 10 minutes, and in the light of new shooters, it just wasnt up to scratch. It felt ancient and tired, and not in a nostalgic way.

    I owned a 360 for about 6 months and sold it in the end, as I just couldnt find anything worth playing on it. I bought Gears, not because I thought it looked good, but there simply wasnt any choice out there! Which I think is where a lot of console sales come from. The choice of games to choose from is miniscule comparted to the PC, and when devs like Epic make a game that fails to compete, they start blubbing like babies, throw a rock (which misses) and go crying back to the their mommies who cuddle them and reassure them that they're the greatest.

    Well, if Gears and UT3 is what Epic are offering these days, then I'm not even remotely bothered if they become console only, be gone already, and stop whinig! Oh, and take your horrible texture streamin engine with you please.

  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #29 4 years ago

    @agparrot

    We could have a massive war about control methods but with UT3 you can play it with mice and keyboard or pad on both PS3 and PC, so theres no difference really, pick your format and pick which ever control system you want as well.

  • Nylkran #30 4 years ago

    @ Cliffy B

    This is about the most stupid thing I have ever heard.

    Did he heard about Crysis? Starcraft 2? Neverwinter Nights 2?

    Just because Epic can/wont put the effort in making agmes people will actually buy on the PC, doenst mean it can be done. Further more has he ever considered that games like WOW and The Sims are just more fun? Its like people saying that only crap/childish games sell on the Wii. Is not that their are crap or that they are childish is that they are fun, and maybe if you got of your high horse and realized people dont like just shooetrs and FPS games, you wouldnt sound like such a raving fanboy.

  • The-Bodybuilder #31 4 years ago

    A lot of angry PC-people here...

  • crozon #32 4 years ago

    fuck it gonna play mass effect when it comes out on the PC

  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #33 4 years ago

    well said Nylkran

    Im a 95% console gamer myself i do have a pc but it needs upgrading again, i cant really see why they would make the decision not to make PC games anymore, they have a multiplatform engine, for the most part all they have to do it click compile for PC and build the assets. Its not like there is 3rd party to go through like Microsoft or Sony either, for the sales they will get on PC even if they are poor, would sureley be more money than it would cost them to do a build on the PC platform.

    We do PC conversion with our cross platform engine and they there probably is a 2-3 weeks exrta work in makeing the PC version, PC sales would have to be incredibly low not to make it worth the effort.

  • Apostle #34 4 years ago

    What a dick. Boo-hoo Cliffy, so you're latest game didn't make you oodles of cash, c'mon. The PC gaming market is strong, and evolving, just look at Steam, I don't see Valve complaining. Cooking Mama?! Have you seen Xbox Live Arcade per chance? There's enough crap on there too, Cliff.

    Not like Gears of War was actually that good, just had a massive advertising campaign, and that (yes italics again! Really pushing the boat out here) song.

    P.s I own a PS3 and Xbox 360 so I am not an angry PC gamer, I love games whatever platform they're on. Just don't like CB's comments as it's clearly all about making money to him (does he speak for all of Epic?) now.
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 10:38

  • BadBoyBonner #35 4 years ago

    "He's just pissed off because UT3 did not sell on the PC." etc

    The developers are not (just) pissed off that they are not selling well.

    Like Infinity Ward with CoD4 - what they are pissed off with is seeing how many people are playing the game against how many legitimate copies have been sold (obviously that only includes viewing those online - millions more won't be logging in with the games).

    Most people I know offset the huge investment of a PC gaming rig by never actually paying for ANY software - trying to recoup the cost back with each illegitimate download/carboot purcahse. Sometimes it's people "tricking" their other half - who doesn't have a clue whats inside the PC - and said half may go mad at seeing how much would be spent on games - but thats nowhere near a good enough excuse in my book.

    I have no doubt far more than 4.5 million PC owners have UT3 installed on their HD.

    Thing is with these consoles you have near PC quality graphics on big HDTV displays sat proudly in the front room linked up to surround sound. AND here's the best bit - everyone has the SAME system, nobody bitch whining about someone having better FPS etc etc etc, no or very little hacking i.e. no super shitty "aim bot".

    Console gaming is enjoying a moment of rude health and I am finally enjoying playing FPS games with a pad again, who'd have guessed?
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 10:42

  • GamesConnoisseur #36 4 years ago

    Different strokes for different folk, if they only prefer to play on PC as it is certainly can be more comfortable, familar and say prefer keyboard/mouse for playing most games as opposited to gamepad which can be limited.

    The rages at consoles or only at X360 is in my view misdirected, you cannot make them disappear! We should accept that a good number of people are buying them and the people making the games are in this to make money. So whatever the reason for lowering sales of games on PC, games being too console-centric, simply poor games or piracy, at the end of day them devs need to make money. There are a lot of free games on PC and cheaper way of getting games ie via Steam than retail.

    Astounded at a comment that X360 have no good games at all? That is a pretty strong statement unless the person only interested in a certain genre and that is only available on PC and not so much on X360? We know that most games on X360 is also available on PC (more so than also being available on PS3) and currently there are only a few true exclusives tied to each platform that are not available elsewhere. Much fewer than the last gen due to the expensive business and the need to recoup costs.

  • john_silence #37 4 years ago

    "disarray"lol
    cliffycopter

  • skillian #38 4 years ago

    It's sad to see one of the original big PC devlopers turn their backs on the system, but the fact is Epic haven't made a decent PC game since Unreal Tournament in 1999 (unless you count the other Unreals, which were really more of the same).

    It seems they are more interested in selling engines now, and I assume they will still be licensing those engines out to PC developers. They will be missed, but more out of a sense of nostalgia rather than mourning any holes in the PC's release schedules.

  • Katsumoto #39 4 years ago

    God you know what's really sad - how people get all excited when people lay into something that isn't their system of choice.

    I can understand if you all prefer your 360 but why the fuck should that make you happy when a certain dev isn't happy with the PC? It's just pathetic.

    Anyway, we've heard this for years and its complete bollocks as we know (Crysis already sold over 1 million? PC gaming is dying lolomg).

  • smoison #40 4 years ago

    LOL at Epic, Next time try making original And/or FUN games cause re texturing unreal tournement (a la EA) is not going to get you maney sales on PC.

    Like Factor 5, if your game dosn't sell, just change platforms and blame everyone else.

    Psst: Epic, here's a secret, Your last good game was Unreal tournement from 1999.... stop remaking it!

  • miiiguel #41 4 years ago

    The man does this for a living, can he be blamed for wanting to be payed for his work? Console games sell, especialy the (oh my god! so american! so retarded) shooters. Would you like to earn a lot less for your work? I would whine too.

  • derspringer #42 4 years ago

    ha! try mac "gaming"... now that's disarray...

  • UncleLou #43 4 years ago

    This gen really killled the PC. With the quality of graphics we have on PS3/360, what moron is seriously going to invest mega bucks in high end PCs and keep on upgrading?

    Wow, even for the comments section, this is a particularly idiotic post. Congratulations!

  • Katsumoto #44 4 years ago

    Didn't see that one - my ignore list is doing its job! Hurray!

    Some console gamers actually think they can compete with the pc graphically? Lollercaust.

    /cue "lol pc nerds who cares about graphics"
    /points at Wii comments threads

  • bioreit #45 4 years ago

    @ katsumoto and others

    "Some console gamers actually think they can compete with the pc graphically? Lollercaust."

    Show me where, for under £300, someone can purchase a decent pc, with Gears/CoD4/Drake's Fortune quality graphics - that is 99% GUARANTEED to run those games at HDTV resolutions with a decent framerate.

    Oh yeah and because this is NOT just about graphics, the PC setup must be easy to use, require basically no upgrading in 6 months' time for the majority of games released on it and be easily playable from a living room-type location.

    Oh, that's right - all of you hardcore PC gamers forget one thing; PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT AND HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES!

    Of course even a £600 machine could wipe the floor with a 360 and PS3 - but there'll be some games in the near future it struggles with, because the architecture isn't locked down, whereas devs can optimise and tweak the hell out of console versions.

    Also, almost no PC games available on consoles have split-screen support, making friday night gatherings somewhat difficult.

    As has been mentioned before, if everyone has the same architecture, then there can be no (justified) complaints of 'But your machine is better' or 'Hax!'

    Some folks like the ease and convenience of just getting home, popping the disc in the drive and playing - no installation required, no config tweaks, no messing around with texture settings, volumetrics and anti-aliasing in an attempt to get a decent frame-rate.

    But, whatever, go on with your "Consoles? Pfft. Those are for whiny little children. A REAL man would spend four days trying to rebuild his machine before even ripping off the shrink-wrap!" opinions.

  • AtomicBanana #46 4 years ago

    'We want games where your skill and not some random jumping is what determines how well you do.'

    Yes, we do. However neither Unreal, Halo, or quake rely on 'random jumping' to achieve success. What is this current obsession wtih thinking that just because the current wave of 'tactical' shooters have a bit more complexity, they are suddenly a million times more skilled based. It's nonsense, sorry. Thank god for games like warsow, proving that some people still do realize this.

  • Katsumoto #47 4 years ago

    I think you missed the point somewhat. I wasn't talking about sitting on sofas and splitscreen support and all the usual. I was talking about how, when people slam the pc, they refer to us as "nerds" who only care about graphics, and then go on to slam for the Wii for having "ps2 visuals".

    I don't think your "you must spend 600 quid" thing is really relevant to what we're talking about. And btw with your "lol all pc gamers upgrade their system every 6 months" spiel you're just as bad as you make us out to be, with our supposed "lol all console gamers are thick as shit" attitude, i.e. generalising. I was making a specific comment, you are making a very general one.

    P.s., if you need to upgrade your pc every 6 months then you obviously just bought a really awful pc :p! I've upgraded my setup twice since 2002. Obviously hefty overhauls both times, but thats it. Twice.
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 12:51

  • bioreit #48 4 years ago

    But you just said "Some console gamers actually think they can compete with the pc graphically? Lollercaust." yes?

    Therefore, the implication is that you think:

    1. Consoles cannot possibly compete with PCs in terms of graphics.
    2. Anyone who thinks the quality of graphics on consoles can be compared to those on PC is some kind of idiot - inferred from the overall patronising tone of the comment.

    Also, where, please did I say "You must spend 600 quid"? Did I say MUST? Did I say FORCED? Or maybe you are putting words into my mouth, reading things that you want to read.

    I said that for a direct and fair comparison between a PC and a console, then a PC that cost under £300 and wouldn't require significant upgrading within 6 months (seeing as a £300 PC would likely have to skimp in some areas) - by comparison, I can pretty much say for certain that in 6 months' time, 360 and PS3 graphics will still be roughly on par with high-end PC games (especially DirectX 9 games). Seems a pretty reasonable point to me, to say that if the PC crowd are going to spit on the console crowd, then they should come up with evidence to support their opinions.
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 12:57

  • Katsumoto #49 4 years ago

    For god's sake - the point was intentionally patronising because it was aimed at another extremely ridiculous comment, not from you. You accuse me of putting words in your mouth - you seem to want to pick a fight with me over something I wasn't even saying to you.

    Of course I don't think all console gamers are morons - I was referring to a specific point made by someone. Yes, of course if you spend less money a console will do fine. I own several consoles! I was merely getting infuriated with massive anti-pc backlash. You don't need to take it personally.

    Personally, I am willing to spend the extra (this set up cost 700 quid), knowing it will do for several years. Also, don't forget to take into account the extra cost of online gaming and games that cost roughly twice as much on consoles. This is NOT a personal dig.

    Again, the patronising comment above was directed at a SPECIFIC person, not you, nor console gamers as a group. For all the talks of PC elitism i think console gamers are just as bad.

    The fact is, if you have the money, consoles -can't- compete with PCs graphically. However, they don't need to, because, as we all agree, 360/ps3/wii graphics are more than adequate to the task. What I was REALLY driving at was the people who say all this, and how pc gamers are twats for liking their graphics so much, and then go on to ultima-blaze the wii for "ps2 graphics".

    p.s. i see you're quite happy to ignore all the massively patronising comments aimed at pc gamers in this thread :p.
    Edited by 2 at 14/02/08 @ 13:08

  • bioreit #50 4 years ago

    Look, I get it that that comment was initiated by symbiote's comment - as quoted by UncleLou.

    But I'm sorry, the implication is still there that it was an 'umbrella' comment about a disparity between consoles and PCs.

    But I accept your explanation to your comments.

    For the record, I was a PC gamer for years, but due to an amusing mishap involving a late-night graphics card install, a thunderstorm, a jumpy cat and a two-litre bottle of Pepsi Max, I went without a PC for about two years, relying instead on my Xbox and N64. Didn't miss PC gaming at all (except for the all-weekend Natural Selection sessions).

    Got my 360 last Christmas and my new PC in the summer and I've used my PC bugger all for games. I can easily afford to upgrade it to the point of even playing Crysis properly (soon to get my second 360/32" Samsung combo, got my Wii, getting PS3 once LBP hits) but it's more of a general....malaise with regards to PC gaming that is putting me off.

    I guess that's what kept my fire raging through the second post, really: It has nothing to do with cost (although possibly yes for 'Fun-per-pound') for me, but more of an effort and desire thing, but your response seemed tied to the cost thing (which I know, yes, I did mention also!). I like my free time and I work with computers all day during the week - tinkering with my PC to get it working nicely just smacks too much of bringing my work home.

    Edit 1: "p.s. i see you're quite happy to ignore all the massively patronising comments aimed at pc gamers in this thread :p"

    Ah, so I take it you are addressing the patronising PC-owners' comments aimed at console gamers in the same way, yesno? ;-)
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 13:14

  • Katsumoto #51 4 years ago

    Fair enough - as I've said before on these threads its all too easy to get fired up and take it out on the wrong people.

    That comment wasn't meant as an umbrella comment, but you're right, I shouldn't have said it all, I just get to worked up. Apologies anyway. I understand the appeal of console gaming a lot, but all my friends are pc gamers and all my games are pc gamers (bar the odd ps2 and wii title), so there i'm staying! I guess I just feel the need to defend my hobby sometimes, as you, rightly enough, do also. But I think this little spat is a case of friendly-fire :) Sorry again for the misunderstanding!

    And yes, re: your edit - both sides are just as bad lol :) But, as with you, I guess you feel more compelled to defend one side than the other. I was only poking a bit of fun there, sorry again though!
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/08 @ 13:16

  • bioreit #52 4 years ago

    I can certainly understand that sentiment! Having three of my closest friends and a brother-in-law with a 360 certainly helps, especially as we all seem to have reached the 'can't-be-arsed' stage of PC gaming. Doesn't stop me from checking out how Natural Selection 2 is coming along, nor getting a Radeon 3850 just for Company of Heroes, though - just concentrates me onto the one platform. So, I guess 'sorry' all round then!

    And if you ever feel like getting into console gaming but are afraid to take the first step alone..... lol.

    Was poking fun too, by the way :-P

  • skillian #53 4 years ago

    There is something to be said for defending your chosen platform when the article is suggesting that platform is on its last legs.

    It's far more annoying when the article is about very minor differences in otherwise identical games on two healthy consoles.

  • UncleLou #54 4 years ago

    Anyway, to get back on topic - I distinctly remember an interview shortly before UT3 was released about how they're loyal to their PC fanbase - looks like the rather poor sales of UT3 did a lot to change that tune. As for the "we'd rather have 4.5 than 1 million sales", surely 5,5 million sales is even better? Unless he was saying they're not developing any PC-exclusives anymore, which, well, isn't exactly new news, anyhow.

  • Kyle #55 4 years ago

    "...so come back soon for more exclusive refusals to discuss Gears of War 2."

    EPIC LULZ!!!1!

  • BooMMooB #56 4 years ago

    cliffy B is a rockstar. You have my vote!

  • crozon #57 4 years ago

    balls to this why care, crysis easy to pirate, high system req. sells way more than UT3.

    in any case epic, have a look at valve and how they are doing. now they are a killer company. quality products all the time, and they make a mint.

    and losing games like ut3 and gears of war is no biggie, not with games like crysis, stalker around. and my new indie fav. savage 2

  • paketep #58 4 years ago

    This sounds incredibly shortsighted, even taking into account that it is CliffyB speaking.