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Bible Navigator X costs on Xbox Live News

Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese

12 November, 2009

America's oldest Bible publisher B&H has adapted the book for Xbox Live, and is asking for a mandatory donation of 400 Microsoft Points (£3.40/€4.80) to read it.

Bible Navigator X, available from the Indie Games channel, has both Old and New Testaments, a search tool, bookmarking and various customisation options for viewing on a big telly, just as the original authors no doubt intended.

"The Xbox [360] isn't just secular entertainment anymore," said Aaron Linne, B&H evangelist. "We can use technology that other people developed to study Scriptures through a new medium. Some people are just more comfortable with a controller in their hands than a book."

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Raz76
12/11/09 @ 09:56
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Will it have achievements?
r_simsini
12/11/09 @ 09:56
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Are there any achievements? And by that I mean for my gamerscore and not by a bearded man in robes.
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craigy [staff]
12/11/09 @ 09:58
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Yep, the achievements are:

* Turn water into wine
* Feed 5,000 with five loaves and two fishes
* Walk on water
* Etc
Valis
12/11/09 @ 09:59
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Can I make ammendments? Some of it is shit.
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 09:59
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Sweet Jesus! ... so to speak.


Secret achievement.

* Fool the population of the world
Raz76
12/11/09 @ 10:05
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360 exclusive too, eh? That should make for some great fanboy arguments.
squarejawhero
12/11/09 @ 10:11
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God prefers the 360. Proof.
r_simsini
12/11/09 @ 10:12
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"God prefers the 360. Proof."

Considering Bill Gates is God, this is indeed proof.
VicViper
12/11/09 @ 10:15
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The name suggests that the bible turned into some sort of Xtreme sports game or a scrolling shooter.
joe90
12/11/09 @ 10:20
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Will it have logic bugs?
GamerG
12/11/09 @ 10:29
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I love the way they added an "X" in order to "get down with da kids"

MiniAmin
12/11/09 @ 10:32
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LOL it isn't exactly a donation if it's mandatory is it?
Retroid [mod]
12/11/09 @ 10:38
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I presume it has Hypocrisy, Self-Contradiction and We-Just-Randomly-Pick-Stuff-Out-Of-This-Part-To-Justify-Homo
phobia-But-Ignore-The-Rest-Because-It's-Inconvenient searchable indexes too.
Retroid [mod]
12/11/09 @ 10:39
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Oh, and examples of translation errors being behind some of the 'miracles'.
SleepyDeathFred
12/11/09 @ 10:41
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Does it have quick time events?

If it does I'm not getting it.
dither
12/11/09 @ 10:43
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Is there a gun pointing into the screen?
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 10:48
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"Oh, and examples of translation errors being behind some of the 'miracles'."

That and the old "nobody actually wrote any of this down until a few hundred years after the people being quoted died you know" bug bear.

Translation errors are only half the probelm when you have a couple of centuries of "XYZ happened, pass-it-on" buggering about with the details before you even get as far as translating anything.
SAMagic
12/11/09 @ 10:56
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"The Xbox [360] isn't just secular entertainment anymore"
Ah yes, because if it isn't Christian or another religion then it's part of some unified secular group, that's why there has be a Christian equivalent of anything mainstream - even as far as Christian TV channels, rap and rock music and games too.

I don't have a problem with someone putting their religious text in a game or as an app on XBL, but that sort of attitude really annoys me.
Riggers
12/11/09 @ 10:58
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How can a donation be mandatory? :/
sickpuppysoftware
12/11/09 @ 10:59
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You have been crucified. Continue?
beastmaster
12/11/09 @ 11:03
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Epic win! Actually that should be Biblical Win!!
VandelayIndustries
12/11/09 @ 11:14
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Can we also have the "Great Orbiting Teapot: mini game collection" please.
Canyarion
12/11/09 @ 11:24
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What translation are they using and how good is it? Did they replace God's name JHWH with something like 'Lord' or not?

Anyway, I wonder how this will sell. I suspect a target audience conflict.
harzo
12/11/09 @ 11:25
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Heavens above!
SpaceInvader
12/11/09 @ 11:28
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@ kangarootoo

Actually, many scholars strongly suggest that Mark's Gospel (the first Gospel) was written approximately 30 years after the death of Christ.

Also, it is widely believed that two of the Gospel authors (Matthew and John) were disciples of Christ, and therefore witnessed the events themselves. Of the other two authors, Mark was a companion of St Peter (another disciple who witnessed the events) and is believed to have based his Gospel on his recollections. Finally, Luke was a companion of St Paul the Apostle, who was famously converted by the risen Christ soon after the crucifixion.

Thus, rather than being written a couple of hundred years after the events, it appears that the Gospels were actually written very soon after the death of Christ by people who knew him, or were based on the accounts of those who were with him.
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redneon
12/11/09 @ 11:30
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Does it have dedicated servers?
SleepyDeathFred
12/11/09 @ 11:34
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"Can we also have the "Great Orbiting Teapot: mini game collection" please. "

None of your Flying Spaghetti Monster style satire here!
muters
12/11/09 @ 11:39
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'This game contains scenes of explicit violence and gore.'
macmurphy
12/11/09 @ 11:41
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Can you imagine how gutted you'd be if as a kid you just whacked on the Xbox and your dad comes and tells you he wants some quality Bible time. Way to ruin some poor kid's life.
Dodgymat
12/11/09 @ 11:53
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£3.40? You can get it free in any hotel room or old building with a fucked roof!
SAMagic
12/11/09 @ 11:56
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@VandelayIndustries \ SleepyDeathFred: But there must be a Flying Spaghetti Monster version too as people MUST be told about the causation of pirates and global warming.

(Seriously. And the profits could go directly to charity)
Jesus: Action Figure
12/11/09 @ 12:06
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Oh me oh my...
kongzi
12/11/09 @ 12:10
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Let's publish the Origin of Species for free on PSN.. for free
Tzetrik
12/11/09 @ 12:11
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ban this sick filth
MKorkia
12/11/09 @ 12:13
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My country does not have Indie Games channel, we're doomed now!!!

/heeds the call of duty and goes back to shooting infidels
Retroid [mod]
12/11/09 @ 12:33
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Actually, yeah; I hope someone does do an Origin of the Species & The Descent of Man.

Probably for cheaper, too.
thesombrerokid
12/11/09 @ 12:59
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@SpaceInvader it's also true that the books didn't turn up till 100 years after they were supposedly written and were anonymous for a while until someone put these guys names to it.
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 13:00
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@SpaceInvader

I don't doubt that most of what is written is based on personal accounts. My point was that a personal account passed on by word of mouth loses its integrity.

Some of the text was originally written soon after the events, I agree. But equally large portions were not documented for many generations. Even 30 years is a long time, especially if the text is not written by the original witness.


"Finally, Luke was a companion of St Paul the Apostle, who was famously converted by the risen Christ soon after the crucifixion."

Talking of the risen christ, I was listening to a radio programme recently about that very event. Is it true that when Luke first met the "risen christ", he didn't recognise him? I don't want to go out on a limb here, but is it not possible that the reason he didn't recognise him was because it wasn't in fact the same person (raising question over the whole "risen" aspect of things)?

I'm eager to learn (rather than just continually be sarcastic just for the sake of it), so a link or two wouldn't go amiss.
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 13:03
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Btw, I +1'd both SpaceInvader and thesombrerokid, 'cos its important having both sides of the debate involved (there is nothing more boring than a room full of sanctimonious aetheists all in smug agreement - i.e. me and my friends when I was 17).

I am not going to be converted anytime soon, but knowledge is still good.
glaeken
12/11/09 @ 13:04
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I think really a biblical game would work best as a beat'em up. You could even have a cross over with Origin of the Species and have Jesus take on Darwin to settle that debate once and for all. I would definitely buy such a game.

Skurmedel
12/11/09 @ 13:10
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Slagging on the religious is so cool.
tinyspark
12/11/09 @ 13:10
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"This game contains scenes of explicit violence and gore."

...and incest.
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 13:14
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@SAMagic

"Ah yes, because if it isn't Christian or another religion then it's part of some unified secular group"

Well, yes. Because that is what the word secular means.

Either something is spiritual, or it isn't (even if that isn't its main focus). And if it isn't, it is secular. A game that doesn't have religious content is secular, simply because of the absence of religious content. It has to be one or the other.

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secular

Of or pertaining to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; temporal: secular interests.
Not pertaining to or connected with religion
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Skurmedel
12/11/09 @ 13:23
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This thread should be secular.
sneetch
12/11/09 @ 13:24
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@GamerG
I love the way they added an "X" in order to "get down with da kids"

I assumed that it was because Bible Navigator I to IX had already been released. Bloody sequels, how's about some new IP?
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 13:30
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@Skurmedel

You obviously have a bit of a bee in your bonnet, which I can understand 'cos people do confuse questioning of religion with mocking religious people (me included at times).

Is it that which you object to, or more any questioning of the existence of God at all (and all that entails)?
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12/11/09 @ 13:31
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I'd have rather had a cool platform game about the Bible. That would have been sweet. Maybe heresy, but sweet.
Skurmedel
12/11/09 @ 13:42
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Questioning is not the problem, as you, and myself do. That is in fact healthy.

The downright slagging that goes on in the above is though, some of the comments are funny yes, some are rather ignorant. I'm quite used to these discussions on the net and they tend to end in "group think" or a flame war.
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 13:43
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@Skurmedel

Fair point, and I quite agree.
kangarootoo
12/11/09 @ 13:58
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Been looking up groupthink. Interesting stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

Some good methods for avoiding it mentioned in the page. Though personally, I think I have an allergy to it, as I much prefer playing devil's advocate.

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