Super Mario Sunshine Review

By Tom Bramwell Published 4 October, 2002

Review - Mario goes on holiday, and Tom hitches a ride

Version tested: GameCube

Mario is an institution. How many videogame characters are recognised ahead of Mickey Mouse? Just one. It's his instant accessibility and the courageously groundbreaking design of his platform games which continues to excite and astound fans of the series.

With Super Mario Bros. 3, Nintendo created an iconic platformer with beautiful design, intelligent pacing and flawless execution. With Super Mario World it did it all again on a new platform employing a completely different structure. With Yoshi's Island, it managed to sideline the character who drives the series and still produce one of the best 2D platformers to date, and with Super Mario 64 it shattered illusions and sold a million N64s. How can Super Mario Sunshine possibly hope to compete?

As it happens, it can do more than hope.

Thief!

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Mario versus nature, once again

Ignoring for the umpteenth time previous conventions, Super Mario Sunshine is set in the aftermath of Mario 64, as our hero and his entourage depart Peach's castle and embark on a much needed vacation to the beautiful tropical island of Delfino. But trouble is afoot as soon as our heroes' feet touch the runway. A silver brush-wielding Mario has emblazoned the entire island with graffiti, and unleashed terrible paint-spewing monsters to transform the delicate setting further. This will not stand, of course, but before Mario can do anything about it of his own accord, he's thrown into jail, accused of performing the heinous act himself, and sentenced to clean the entire island. The only way to prove his innocence is, ironically, to carry out his sentence, and to try and figure out along the way just who or what is responsible.

To aid the cleanup operation, Professor E. Gadd, who you may well remember as the mad gadget-building scientist in Luigi's Mansion, has equipped Mario with a water gun backpack, which can be used to fire water in a stream ahead of the plumber, or be shot down underneath him like a jet pack. The two modes are toggled by X, and the pressure-sensitive right trigger is used to control water flow. As with Mario 64, the left thumbstick controls Mario's movement, from a tiptoe through to full pelt, and in Sunshine it's also used to direct the water cannon. When the R button is fully depressed, Mario stops still and the thumbstick allows him to direct the water precisely. The water pressure runs out after a short while, although the water store is quite expansive - however, a quick trip to a drinking trough, lake or even the ocean and a tug on the R button refills and rejuices.

Other than that, the controls are very much the same as Super Mario 64. Mario can perform the same three-stage jump he could in Mario 64, he can perform a backflip jump - useful for reaching high platforms in confined spaces - by running one way then quickly snapping the stick back and jumping the other, and he can pound the ground by jumping and then pressing the L trigger. Furthermore, he can slide around like a demented penguin on ice, and he can also scale heights by jumping from wall to wall - very Crouching Tiger.

Shine on

jun16b

He's, cough, he's behind you, Mario

Of course, the control system is about as perfect as we could have hoped. Mario's adventures still involve performing otherworldly tasks in peculiar settings to collect stars (or "shines" in this case), and control of him is very simple and easily picked up. Even the addition of the water backpack doesn't cause any difficulties - you'll quickly get the hang of switching between modes, hovering over gaps and using the jetpack mode to reach areas you didn't think possible. You even develop clever little shortcut moves, like performing a backflip jump and then using the jetpack to climb a few extra feet onto a bit of netting in the harbour level, or performing a three-step jump to get maximum distance and then jetpacking the rest of the way across a ravine. It's all very intuitive and you'll fall in love with the changes as if they'd been there since the very first Mario titles.

Sadly though, Super Mario Sunshine's one major failing is in the control department, specifically the camera. The camera in Super Mario 64 was almost perfect - the several step technique with the yellow "camera buttons" as they became known wasn't quite perfect, but it was very close. Sunshine's camera gives you more freedom, allowing complete rotation via the C-stick, but it never quite gels. The camera always needs minute adjusting, and so you feel like you're playing with two thumbsticks and not one - and juggling face button moves like jumping and backpack modes whilst keeping the camera in check can be maddening, and leads to failure more than enough times throughout the game. The camera also has a tendency to clip into scenery here and there, and all in all feels a bit too messy and unreliable. Not something we're used to in Mario releases.

Design is law

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Elastic bands are a constant in many levels, and add yet another dimension to the classic platforming

Fortunately, Shigeru Miyamoto's minions haven't failed to produce a lengthy, compelling single player adventure. Some felt that Mario 64 was simply too easy, but Sunshine is paced somewhat peculiarly to give you challenge whilst always offering something simpler. The level hub this time around is the capital of Isle Delfino, which sits in the shadow of a volcano with a huge sunshine gong in an arch towering over the town and providing light. Countless buildings are dotted around, as well as an inlet for ships - including a boat which will take you out to the furthest islands if you hang around - and throughout the town lurk a variety of plump Delfino residents, some of whom will bat you about the ear for polluting paradise, and some of whom will help you or even challenge you, which can lead to your winning various bonus shines.

Levels are not simply hidden in houses and behind portraits though - Mario has to first collect enough shines that his nefarious counterpart will expose himself and open up another level. The first few times, levels are opened as M-shaped portals on statues and buildings. Mario finds a big splotch of paint, defeats a painted plant mini-boss and then unlocks the portal, allowing him to visit various areas of Isle Delfino and continue the cleanup operation. After a while though, level portals vary from sneakily hidden green tubes to human cannons and even peculiar sunbeams.

Level design is typically Miyamoto. Unlike Mario 64, objectives on a given level have to be completed in a certain order - although you can tackle levels in any order once you've unlocked a few - and levels literally morph into different versions of themselves with each shine you collect. For example, journey to the top of the windmill on the first level and usurp a petulant paint-spitting plant and you'll come back to find the entire lake splattered in paint, and have to use lilies as makeshift rafts in order to get to coins and other platforms.

Naturally, there's a great deal more to Mario Sunshine than beating bosses, bopping enemies on the head and cleaning paint. The sheer variety in level design and objectives will keep you coming back for more even if you think you're bored. Complete a series of objectives which goes something like boss encounter, elastic band puzzle, flying plant encounter, metal lattice climbing, octopus-taming and fruit juggling, and you'll find even more variety in the backpack-less levels. Mario's nemesis, whose identity is borne out in an explosive rollercoaster ride (no exaggeration) of a boss encounter after a couple of hours, occasionally steals Mario's pack and leaves our hero to fend off obscenely difficult old-school 3D platform levels. These gradually get harder and harder, with moving platforms, spinning blocks to climb and hugely tricky, pixel-perfect jumps to perform, and after a while they go completely mad, taking place in a Pachinko table, on the back of a flying sand-block bird and worse. You'll run through lives like confetti as you battle to beat them, but you always seem to have accrued just the right number to beat them...

It's a-me!

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A... a yellow submarine?

The two things we haven't bothered to go into yet are Mario's graphics and sound. Of course the gameplay is the defining aspect of the game, and we've been happy to let you imagine the game in a Mario 64-style setting because, whether you're happy about it or not, that's what we have here. The graphics are post-Mario 64 but only by a short distance. At its heart, apart from increased resolution and a bit more texture and character detail, the game looks ostensibly the same, but it's the fine details which keep the game fresh and exciting, and the way Nintendo's artists have chosen to wield the Cube's power.

The first thing you'll realise is that it runs at a smooth 60 frames per second, and that the draw distances are absolutely huge. Levels are enormous, and unlike the N64, the Cube can handle almost the entire vista on screen at any given time, with islands in the background, countless enemies patrolling the screen and palm fronds, frothing water and shiny reflective platforms. The water effects throughout the game are certainly stunning - from the way it flows and trickles as commanded from Mario's backpack to the way it laps up on the beaches and parts in waves as Mario wades or splashes into it, and the softness of the reflections - it's a real eye-opener.

Elsewhere, character and enemy animation reaches a new high. Mario, the Princess, Toad, Yoshi and others all look incredibly cute as they move, and Mario's shiny nemesis is like something out of Terminator 2. Mario's movement is perhaps the best though - tiptoeing is exaggerated like a cartoon, whilst walking is energetic, chest puffed out, and running full pelt sees limbs flailing and the tippy-tap-tapping of his tiny shoes on pavement, grass and wood. Like every aspect of Mario Sunshine, the graphics and sound effects are familiar, yet captivatingly fresh. And the soundtrack is typical Nintendo - mixing old tunes and new to create a tropical crescendo - and backs every level with almost unfettered success.

A plumb

Mario is a long game, too, and that's important. Mario 64 was only criticized for being too easy for all its efforts, and Luigi's Mansion, not to mention Miyamoto's comments on the subject all seemed to point to shorter games, more often. Fortunately, Sunshine is a lot longer. There are 120 shines to collect, and a stupid number of blue coins, which also make a difference to the end sequence. To fetch them all is probably going to take the best part of 20-30 hours, and that's if you don't spend hours exploring the intricacies of the various levels. We wouldn't like to say how many hours we've clocked, but it's more time than we've spent playing the rest of the games which live in Mario's pile on the top of the TV. Hey ho.

To say that there has been an air of expectancy surrounding Super Mario Sunshine is like saying that plumbers don't wear ties. It seems almost pointless to draw attention to something so glaringly obvious. This is the sequel to Super Mario 64, the game which launched a platform and reminded the world that Shigeru Miyamoto makes the best platform games. Super Mario Sunshine couldn't hope to shatter boundaries and reshape the genre for a second time, but it could and has managed to provide one of the biggest and most entertaining platform games since its illustrious predecessor. The best game ever? No, but you'd be a fool not to buy it.

9 / 10

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Comments (353) Latest comment 8 years ago

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  • Alastair #1 10 years ago

    Another mark which way? I am guessing down, but you should be more specific!
    :o)

  • Super Stu #2 10 years ago

    Heh, I ordered SMB from Amazon a few days ago, forgetting this was out today. Nevermind, will pick it up next week.

  • Super Stu #3 10 years ago

    Oh, and is it 60hz? I know 1st part games seem to be pretty well optimised, but I'd rather Ninty set an example by including 60hz.

  • BradlayLaw #4 10 years ago

    I picked this up last night and had lots of fun with it though. A few small points though :

    Weren't you disturbed when a certain someone keeps calling Peach mama. When you get there, think about it.

    And why are the residents of delpino, despite complaining that the shines have disappeared seem to be all too happy to sell or challenge you for their hidden stash. Sneakey bastards. Keep an eye on them.

    But seriously. I am not disapointed at all and can't wait to get home from work so that I can play again!

  • BradlayLaw #5 10 years ago

    Yes it has a 60hz mode. Asks you when you start up.

  • Mr_Sleep #6 10 years ago

    is 20-30 hours really that long for a game cost upwards of £35?

  • st3ph3n #7 10 years ago

    but you’d be a fool not to buy it

    I'm so far from being a fool that I'm buying it twice, one from game today that I will play at the weekend, then the one from play.com that I'll return to game as soon as it arrives. I never meant to get two, but I forgot to cancel my play pre-order so I could use my game loyalty vouchers.

  • Mr_Sleep #8 10 years ago

    St3ph3n, I take it you like Mario then? Reminds me of those stories about die hard Jacko fans buying 15 copies of his albums to boost sales :)

  • Killerbee #9 10 years ago

    This game looks wonderful and is the first time I really wish I had a Gamecube. Maybe I should steal my sister's... :-)

    Until then I'll just have to make do with Ratchet & Clank - when it arrives...

  • otto #10 10 years ago

    I'm hoping Copenhagen airport has a big pile of these going cheap.

    Am I the only one to hate the sound of this?: "obscenely difficult old-school 3D platform levels. These gradually get harder and harder, with moving platforms, spinning blocks to climb and hugely tricky, pixel-perfect jumps to perform, and after a while they go completely mad, taking place in a Pachinko table, on the back of a flying sand-block bird and worse. You’ll run through lives like confetti as you battle to beat them"

  • Mr_Sleep #11 10 years ago

    "How many other games can you name that offer 20-30 hours of gameplay. Most are 10-15 if your lucky."

    Many although then it will only become a pointless arguement over which platform is best since I don't own a console ;) Most are 10-15 but that is somewhere in the region of £2 an hour.

    - I am not exactly sure what my point is, don't worry about anything I have said...it is a slow week of work and it's Friday so the thought processes are receeding a little :)
    Edited by Mr_Sleep at 04/10/02 @ 13:07

  • Killerbee #12 10 years ago

    Killerbee, maybe you should just buy yourself one! They're only £160 with Mario + Memory Card.

    I've thought about it, believe me! Problem is, the Missus would have a fit if I tell her I want to put another console around the TV. And £160 is a lot for one game - even if it is Mario!

    Mind you, Pikmin looks good too...

  • otto #13 10 years ago

    Incidentally is the bigger memory card out now too?

  • Nemesis #14 10 years ago

    plumbers don’t wear ties

    No. No. Nooooooooooooooooooooooo. FMV 90's $hite for those too young to remember.

    SMS. Sitting in my bag. Cmon clock hurry up I wanna get home. /drums fingertips/

  • Westy #15 10 years ago

    Pikimn is one of the best games on the Gamecube at the moment.

  • Killerbee #16 10 years ago

    How many other games can you name that offer 20-30 hours of gameplay. Most are 10-15 if your lucky.

    Final Fantasy VIII took me 48 hours to finish!!! I worry about myself when I think that two days of my life were spent playing just one game.

    Also I've just started to watch the whole series of 24 (DVD box set *borrowed* from my sister - bless her!) which will mean another whole day of my life spent in front of the TV. Although I do feel a bit cheated because the advert breaks from the TV were obviously included in the hour per episode quota!

  • otto #17 10 years ago

    I've got an excellent 3D platformer to play for the weekend. It's called a visit to Ikea followed by some l33t Billy assemblage. :p

    Mario'll have to wait for Monday evening. :(

  • Westy #18 10 years ago

    Yes, the bigger memory card is out (and its only £15 at play.com).

  • Ciaran #19 10 years ago

    Incidentally is the bigger memory card out now too?

    Yup, it is! I picked up a Memory Card 251 a few days ago so I could finally save some SSX Tricky replays. I think it was about €6 more expensive than the 59 block one. Not too bad for four times the storage.

    edit: d'oh! I type too slowly.
    Edited by Ciaran at 04/10/02 @ 13:14

  • Mr_Sleep #20 10 years ago

    Aye Killerbee 24 runs in at 18hrs. Apparently Keifer Sutherland has suggested they film the new series without the adverts since he saw the British version and said it was a lot better without ads.

    "I've got an excellent 3D platformer to play for the weekend. It's called a visit to Ikea followed by some l33t Billy assemblage. :p"

    LOL! Are you going to get some cheats out of the Yellow Pages or are you being a purist for his one, maybe a mate will come around and help you on the tough bits?
    Edited by Mr_Sleep at 04/10/02 @ 13:14

  • ssuellid #21 10 years ago

    Otto, you could build a housefull of Ikea Billy furniture in a weekend. All the stuff in my front room only took 2 hours.

    And no you are not the only one who hates the sound of it. I hate precise platformers because they are not worth the frustration - or the cost of the replacement controllers. Put the wavebirds away for a few weeks.

  • otto #22 10 years ago

    Are you going to get some cheats out of the Yellow Pages

    I'll probably use the walkthrough though I've done it so many times I could probably complete it with my eyes closed. Got a sub-game to play too, putting up shelves, but the AI always cheats on that - trying to drill through my walls is a bit like trying to hit the loo bowl at 4am in the dark when you're pissed.

  • otto #23 10 years ago

    you could build a housefull of Ikea Billy furniture in a weekend

    Yes you could, but could you also transfer the entire contents of your computer room/study from your existing shelves to the new ones while filing away four years' worth of crap? If yes, then you're an abler man than I. Oh & I have to go off on a business trip Sunday, worse luck. So it's only half a weekend. ;)

    Anyway, Mario. /resolves to stop hijacking important threads/

  • Mr_Sleep #24 10 years ago

    Some of these games are quite linear but without proper guidlines you can end up having to call in the expert to help you out of the problem, then how does one feel? :(

    I actually successfully constructed a whole walk in cupboard type thing...I felt like such a man that day. It's even still standing.

    Sometimes i wonder why one bothers with sub-games, yes their fun but they do detract from the main plot quite a lot.

  • UncleLou #25 10 years ago

    "I've got an excellent 3D platformer to play for the weekend. It's called a visit to Ikea followed by some l33t Billy assemblage"

    And what a timeless gem it is! Surely 20 or 30 years old, but still up-to-date visual appearance. And it'll last you for years! So, why shed a tear over not being able to play Mario?

  • Nemesis #26 10 years ago

    Billy furniture. Never was there such a wicked set of shelf combos devised by man.

    (and they are easy to put together too).

    I used to dislike platform stuff until I played and finished Jak and Daxter. Since then, my opinion has changed, and I'm really looking forward to playing this one.

    Otto. De-clutter my man, it's the only way to go.

  • Nemesis #27 10 years ago

    I can still hear the music in my skull from the GB B/W original.

    do dobedo /gling/ /gling/ /gling/

  • Super Stu #28 10 years ago

    Oh by the way, you all know GoblinGames are doing a US Cube + stepdown + Mario Sunshine for £120, didn't you?

  • BartonFink #29 10 years ago

    Looks wonderful, have to say this is the first game on the GC to make me want to go and buy one. Oh well have to wait till crimbo, damn the missus and her budgets...

    /litte voice in head
    Must resist urge to go and buy one...
    must resist must must

  • otto #30 10 years ago

    De-clutter my man, it's the only way to go.

    Yup. She's been watching that daft declutter makeover programme on BBC2 & getting ideas. *huge sigh*

    Anyway, Mario music - is it not the canine cojones? linkage

  • DaM #31 10 years ago

    I was going to buy another Billy bookcase last weekend to surprise my wife on her return, but on getting there decided it wouldn't fit in the car.....

    My in-laws are up from England tonight....SMS should (fingers crossed) arrive tomorrow....how am I going to break it to them that I will be spending the weekend in my "console suite"?!

  • otto #32 10 years ago

    DaM - one word: exlax. So sorry in-laws, must have been something I ate, you go on ahead without me and enjoy the great outdoors, I'll just hole up here at home and recover.

  • binky #33 10 years ago

    today is the first time i have really wanted a cube.
    i think i shall wait till zelda tho.

  • BartonFink #34 10 years ago

    When is Zelda out?

  • Alastair #35 10 years ago

    'When is Zelda out?'

    Next year...............................

  • BartonFink #36 10 years ago

    That's kinda vague

  • Blerk #37 10 years ago

    That's kinda vague

    So are all of Nintendo's other release dates. :-)

  • Super Stu #38 10 years ago

    I'll highlight this so that everyone sees it, as it's of particular benefit.

    TOYS R US (stoke, dunno if it applies elsewhere) ARE DOING MARIO SUNSHINE + MEM CARD FOR £34.99

    Not sure when it ends, mind, nor if it is the same in other stores. Hope that helps :)

  • Razz #39 10 years ago

    ARGGHHHHH! Mario's Out! //Runs to GAME to pick up GC with SM:S//
    Thank GOD for Student Loans :)

  • BartonFink #40 10 years ago

    So are all of Nintendo's other release dates. :-) LOL, they never were the best at giving a release date were they

  • Tricky #41 10 years ago

    lol - well I've seen worse uses for a Student Loan.

  • BartonFink #42 10 years ago

    ARGGHHHHH! Mario's Out! //Runs to GAME to pick up GC with SM:S//
    Thank GOD for Student Loans :)

    Stop yer killing me ... why is Christmas so far away
    Edited by BartonFink at 04/10/02 @ 14:42

  • otto #43 10 years ago

    ARGGHHHHH! Mario's Out! //Runs to GAME to pick up GC with SM:S//
    Thank GOD for Student Loans :)

    lol - /me refers Razz to comment over here... ;)

  • otto #44 10 years ago

    MARIO SUNSHINE + MEM CARD FOR £34.99

    That is a stonking deal.

  • Super Stu #45 10 years ago

    Innit. Wish to god there was a Toys R Us round here.

  • ssuellid #46 10 years ago

    Is it the usual Mad Catz memory card?

  • Alastair #47 10 years ago

    Argggh! Last time I went to Toys R Us I nearly had a crash on the roundabout 'cos I was so excited at the thought of getting an RGB cable!!

    Maybe I'll pop in on the way home.....

  • brutal #48 10 years ago

    Got it delivered to my house today from www.ajg-games.co.uk

    Only cost £32.99 delivered (5 million euros to you lot) :p

    I recommend them - fast delivery, cheap and quick replys from the customer services department....

  • Super Stu #49 10 years ago

    Shite, I didn't think of that. Yeah, it probably is a Mad Catz one. Ugh. Heh, speaking of RGB cables, my £2 one off Ebay turned up... clearly, the components (took the scart plug apart) are of a lesser quality as the picture is slightly poorer than the PS2's output, but its a fanny side better than composite, that's for damn sure.

    Out of interest, Biohazard (JPN) shipped with official 59 memory cards... did the PAL copy ship with one?

  • ssuellid #50 10 years ago

    Nope Resi came with nothing.

    Toys R Us quite often have GC games with free Mad Catz mem cards. Personally I'm sticking with official ones.
    Edited by ssuellid at 04/10/02 @ 15:05

  • Super Stu #51 10 years ago

    Indeed, me too. Incidently, my friend told me of someone he knows who had their official 251 memory card corrupt on them. One to watch, I'm sure.

  • otto #52 10 years ago

    heh - brutal, you keep thinking the € is a comedy currency, meanwhile we'll keep chuckling all the way to the bank. ;)

  • brutal #53 10 years ago

    its like monopoly money isn't it??? :p

  • Super Stu #54 10 years ago

    Does this mean I can spend a pink 500 in Europe?

  • DodgyG #55 10 years ago

    lol - well I've seen worse uses for a Student Loan.

    I spent a fortnight in LA off mine once... \o/

  • Rowley #56 10 years ago

    "I spent a fortnight in LA off mine once..."

    Blew a good proportion [of my student grant] on a lovely technics stack system. Got kicked out after a year, never had to pay it back, ta very much.

    SM:S - Platformers annoy the bejeesus out of me. Where's the fun in repeatedly falling off of things until you manage to jam it through, only to meet your impending doom when that evil monkey sitting up the palm tree on the other side brains you with a well aimed coconut?


    Edited by Rowley at 04/10/02 @ 15:40

  • Nemesis #57 10 years ago

    Yup. She's been watching that daft declutter makeover programme on BBC2 & getting ideas. *huge sigh*

    Oh no, not those. I came back one day and she'd painted the bedroom ORANGE. You know, the colour of those marker pens.

    Anyhow, if the subject of de-cluttering comes up, insist she bins some of those shoes. She might relax on the subject then.

    But Mr Otto, I NEED 200 pairs of shoes, you know that...

  • otto #58 10 years ago

    Oh god, believe me, the shoe/womens mags wars we have. Me: "Why the hell would you need five-year-old copies of Elle??" Her: "Well why do you need 25 year old copies of 2000AD??" Me: "Cos they're PRICELESS TREASURES!!" Her: "Well so is my September 1996 edition of She with an article on Nicole Appleton's top 5 moisturisers!" etc etc

  • Mr_Sleep #59 10 years ago

    "SM:S - Platformers annoy the bejeesus out of me. Where's the fun in repeatedly falling off of things until you manage to jam it through, only to meet your impending doom when that evil monkey sitting up the palm tree on the other side brains you with a well aimed coconut?"

    LOL! I guess it shows the persitance in the face of adversity, something to live in life I suppose, but the day that I find a bunch of spiky creaturs sliding along ice that I have to jump past in perfect timing I will do the normal human thing; kill all the creatures with chemicals and amble across the ice safe in the knowledge that I have rid the world of spiky annoying creatures ;)

  • Super Stu #60 10 years ago

    I think my missus has more pairs of shoes than I have individual items of clothing. However, the 3 or 4 consoles I have take up the same amount of space as 15 football fields, if she were to be believed.

  • eviltobz #61 10 years ago

    Am I the only one to hate the sound of this?: "obscenely difficult old-school 3D platform levels yada yada yada"

    sounds like the stuff nightmares are made of to me. i've always hated platformers, and always hated mario. right up until i played sms on the gamecube demo pod in gamestation and got hooked on only 5 minutes play. had to buy the game this morning and now i feel dirty.

    for what its worth, playing a demo of jak and daxter a month or 2 ago just reaffirmed my feeling that platformers suck, so either the rabid ninty fanboi in me is overriding my opinions of platformers, or this game is that damn good.

  • mal #62 10 years ago

    I always thought the camera in SM64 was a bit flakey, since I had to keep messing with it all the time, but then I did play SM64 after playing Zelda 64, which has probably the perfect camera system (but only because it's tied in to the game's lock-on system which keeps everything in view).

    otto, this does sound like it might be a bit too hard in places. Hopefully it's like SM64 - you can always go back and complete an extra level in an easier section. Throw a few lives at the hard level, and when you get fed up go back and complete a new easier level instead. I got past the 100 stars marker on SM64 doing it, at which point unfortunately I got stuck and got tempted away by newer, shinier things.

    They definitely need to get whoever designs the sterling notes to do some redesigns on the Euro notes. The coins are okay if you forget that they look like the chocolate coins you used to get as kids, but the notes don't have enough regal scrolls and silver marks on them for my tastes. They're better for not having a certain unnamed head of state's mug on them though.

  • Super Stu #63 10 years ago

    Just out of interest, the Toys R Us memory card bundle is a Competition Pro. And, the deal is available in more than one store, so presumably nationwide.

  • Nemesis #64 10 years ago

    for what its worth, playing a demo of jak and daxter a month or 2 ago just reaffirmed my feeling that platformers suck, so either the rabid ninty fanboi in me is overriding my opinions of platformers, or this game is that damn good.

    Noooooooooo. J&D is sublime and I don't like platformers either!

  • otto #65 10 years ago

    Yeah can't say I like the design of the notes. *shrugs*

    I'm getting SMS obviously but I really really hope it doesn't get too frustrating too quickly. That's the one big problem with Nintendo games imho - they're a bit too demanding. *cough cough wheeze*

  • Nemesis #66 10 years ago

    /pushes Luigi's Mansion across table to Otto/

    Maybe this is a bit more to Sirs liking? Nice little game, not too difficult, fun gameplay and nicely constructed. Not overly long, so you could play it inbetween the Billy bookcases being filled. ;-)

  • Super Stu #67 10 years ago

    Speaking of which, I just completed the 10th and final normal mission on Rogue Leader a couple of days ago. \o/

    Need to refine my strategy at the other levels now so I can get better medals, more points and buy the bonus missions.

  • miffo #68 10 years ago

    To aid the cleanup operation, Professor E. Gadd, who you may well remember as the mad gadget-building scientist in Luigi’s Mansion...

    This professor seems to have his ow´n site.

    http://www.ericgadd.com/

  • otto #69 10 years ago

    Ah, yes, Luigi's Mansion...

    Must go back to that one of these days. When I'm feeling a bit braver. Never really went in for survival horror y'know.

  • Nemesis #70 10 years ago

    Never really went in for survival horror y'know.


    Not tempted by Resi then. Graphics are VERY cool. Although the only thing that scared me was the Capcom control setup . Aha ha.

    Sorry.

  • Super Stu #71 10 years ago

    Well, just to make you guys feel better, my younger sister (19) caned Luigi in a few days, shortly followed by my missus.

    My wavebird batteries didn't half take a tanking that week :)

  • Nemesis #72 10 years ago

    My wavebird batteries didn't half take a tanking that week :)

    And it doesn't even vibr..

    LM was a good game, if not a little short. I'd be damned, it took me ages to work out how to beat the final boss.

  • eviltobz #73 10 years ago

    Noooooooooo. J&D is sublime and I don't like platformers either!

    dont worry nem - i'm not trying to say that jak & daxter isn't a good game and i'm certainly not saying that people shouldn't check it out if it interests them. its just that it wasn't to my taste, whereas sms, being of the same genre, which i've hated for years, gripped me from the off.

  • clapton is God #74 10 years ago

    definition of a short game......
    rtcw or even worse was Max Payne= 4 years in development and it took me -10 hours to complete on the highest setting.

  • Nemesis #75 10 years ago

    Tobz, I know *exactly* what you mean. I don't like platform games, I think it stems from 8bit platformers. Jet Set Willy started the hatred and it didn't improve with Sonic.

    But J&D was the turning point for me. I collected all the damn coins, eggs, orbs, the whole lot. I'm not normally that obsessive about getting 100% on a game, I normally finish it and trade it.

  • eviltobz #76 10 years ago

    i normally get part way through, get a new game and stop playing the last one, whilst promising myself that i'll get back to it at some point :)

    last game i finished was Ico. damn that was a long time ago.

  • DocX #77 10 years ago

    "Ah, yes, Luigi's Mansion... Must go back to that one of these days. When I'm feeling a bit braver. Never really went in for survival horror y'know."

    LOL, now that's funny :-D

  • sam_spade #78 10 years ago

    I bought SMS this morning and have been playing it constantly since (apart from a few posts here). The best thing is that repeated pressing of the B button has Mario bouncing along barking and I can't help but think of Ralph Wiggum. :) Oh and it's driving me mental, but it's very good.

  • Westy #79 10 years ago

    Some bits are VERY annoying though. But you seem to just pick yourself up and carry on.

  • Killerbee #80 10 years ago

    *AWOOGA* *AWOOGA*

    Guys - I need your help! A colleague at work has just asked me for advice on what games console she should buy for her 8-10 year old sons.

    My gut reaction (being totally un-biased, natch) was to say PS2 because of lots of great games and forthcoming GTA: Vice City. But then I remembered the kids were under 10 and thought maybe "Mum" wouldn't thank me for this (even if the kids would).

    Then I thought that with SMS out today, would Gamecube be better for the age range in question?

    Or what about an XBox?

    Advice appreciated! No fanboy-isms, thanx.

  • brutal #81 10 years ago

    probably best with the cube - its for the kids... no 8 year old will be able to hold a xbox pad, and gta3 vice city is pretty unsuitable for kids.

    GC - its the cheapest and kid friendly

  • ssuellid #82 10 years ago

    I would say PS2 - purely for the number of games available. And the PS2 has a platinum range so there are cheaper games available. Also there are a vast number of secondhand titles available in game etc.


    edit -

    They don't have to buy 18 rated games.
    And I can show you a 5 year old that can use an XBox controller without any trouble.
    Edited by ssuellid at 04/10/02 @ 18:02

  • Nemesis #83 10 years ago

    I would say PS2 if the kids are swapping games as most people have got one.

    Append...Also, the cheap traded in games at EB are mostly PS2. The GC is a very nice piece of kit, better than PS2, BUT if you're looking at things from a financial POV..PS2 all the way.
    Edited by Nemesis at 04/10/02 @ 18:03

  • Killerbee #84 10 years ago

    gta3 vice city is pretty unsuitable for kids

    I said that, although apparently her kids are already playing GTA 2 on the PC and are loving it! The eldest wants GTA3 so he can go crusing the streets and pick up some fly honeyz for an extra 25 health! (Erm, okay I made up that last bit...)

    I would say PS2 if the kids are swapping games as most people have got one

    I also said it was probably worth asking them what they wanted because they'll probably have already made their minds up! Having the same system and swapping games is good, but would it be better to have a different system so when chums visit they've got something new to have a go on, and vice versa?

  • ssuellid #85 10 years ago

    "but would it be better to have a different system so when chums visit they've got something new to have a go on, and vice versa"

    No, the ungrateful sods would feel like they are missing out and want one as well.

    As you said they probably already know which one they want.

    My mate asked me recently whether he should get a GC or XBox for his son - his sister has a PS2 already.

  • sam_spade #86 10 years ago

    Probably best to ask her if she wants to play on it as well, and then if she does, ask her what kind of stuff she likes and tell her what to get.

    However, my nieces and nephew (around the childs age) are obssessed with SMB and Pikmin so probably a Gamecube if she doesn't want anything to do with the console thing.

  • Nemesis #87 10 years ago

    but would it be better to have a different system so when chums visit they've got something new to have a go on, and vice versa?

    No, definately not. Were you ever the kid at school with the only machine different? Er, I was, it wasn't fun believe me! Kids swap stuff about, even if it's demo disks, and pretty much everything comes out on the PS2. I'd still go with the PS2.

  • ssuellid #88 10 years ago

    I remember taking the piss out of those poor Electron owners :)

  • ssuellid #89 10 years ago

    double post
    Edited by ssuellid at 04/10/02 @ 18:21

  • Killerbee #90 10 years ago

    Probably best to ask her if she wants to play on it as well, and then if she does, ask her what kind of stuff she likes and tell her what to get.

    Erm... Not likely!

    Thanks for some very sage advice about kids' game-swapping habits. I hadn't realised it was actually such a problem to own a non-mainstream machine. When I was at school almost everyone had an Amiga - so maybe that poor sod who cried every breaktime wasn't suffering emotional trauma as a result of a family breakup or recent bereavement - maybe his parents bought him an Atari ST! The B*stards!!!!

    :-)

    My gut reaction (PS2) seems to have been best. What are good kids games for it? I'll recommend Jak & Daxter (now on Platinum!!!) and Ratchet & Clank (when it arrives) and maybe Kingdom Hearts for the Disney content. MGS2, GTA3 and GT3 are probably out though...

  • Nemesis #91 10 years ago

    I remember taking the piss out of those poor Electron owners :)

    /Stern look/

  • sam_spade #92 10 years ago

    Something musical too - like Rez or Frequency, kids love music.

  • Nemesis #93 10 years ago

    But never buy 'em drums.

  • Killerbee #94 10 years ago

    Right then - thanks for the advice and the insights into child psychology. I shall prepare some Powerpoint slides and a full briefing dossier for my colleague over the weekend. Or maybe not.

    Bye!

  • Daryoon #95 10 years ago

    My brothers, who are 5 and 8, love GTA3. I literally have to block the door when I'm playing it to stop them charging in to watch and start shouting "run em over! kill the cops!" etc

  • Daryoon #96 10 years ago

    "What would you say to a nice cup of tea, Father?"
    "Feck off, cup!"
    Edited by Daryoon at 04/10/02 @ 18:42

  • sam_spade #97 10 years ago

    Do you mind?

    We're trying to teach a youngster a valuable lesson in conformity.

  • Azule #98 10 years ago

    How sad. :(
    To be different is to have a small close circle of friends. If you're popular (which I wasn't), you have kids hanging out with you who don't really care about you, just care about status.
    (metaphore) PS2 is like that, everyone has it, there are lots of games, but I'm not (genuinely) happy with it (there are some good games....just an example here). Then we come to my GC. A smaller number of games, but all good, worthy games. /me happy :)

  • girl_gamer #99 10 years ago

    Those platform levels *are* fiendish. Especially that evil sandbird one.

    Re magazines. I scored a huge moral victory by throwing my 5 year stash of Marie Claires out after a period of nagging. I now use my moral advantage at having thrown them out practically daily, especially when discussing de cluttering his CD collection. Don't say I didn't warn you.

  • Azule #100 10 years ago

    Oh yeah, SMS is a great game. The best on GC. It's very tough, sometimes frustrating, but addictively fun nonetheless. Those backpackless levels take some practice, some effort, and a lot of patience. This is where I think the camera should be run automatically.

  • Bill Gates is Evil #101 10 years ago

    "If you're popular (which I wasn't), you have kids hanging out with you who don't really care about you, just care about status."

    You weren't popular but you somehow know that popular people's friends don't care about them but status? Oh please. You shouldn't act like you know about something you never took part in.

  • Azule #102 10 years ago

    It was an example for a metaphore....and I pointed it out...yup...
    Were you popular....let me know how it was, hmm.
    /listens carfully and takes notes/
    :p

  • terminalterror #103 10 years ago

    Aye Killerbee 24 runs in at 18hrs. Apparently Keifer Sutherland has suggested they film the new series without the adverts since he saw the British version and said it was a lot better without ads.


    Afaik, the US version will run without ads, and will be sponsored instead, as the public seemed to agree with Keifer there.

    I would have got SMS today, but seeing as my birthday is next week, it seems better to wait, making my birthday that it more special. But I have Blade and Blade II on DVD to keep me going (£16.99 for Blade II with Blade for free from game.uk.com, offer since expired)

  • otto #104 10 years ago

    Don't say I didn't warn you.

    Augh!! /runs to rescue pile of Marie Claires from bin/

  • Bill Gates is Evil #105 10 years ago

    Azule-haha.

    Very poor metaphor.

  • ssuellid #106 10 years ago

    TerminalTerror - Blockbuster are doing a deal were you get Blade for something like £7 on DVD if you buy Blade 2.

    BTW. I picked up a Dreamcast in Tesco last night for £25 - it looks like they are clearing out the stock.

  • st3ph3n #107 10 years ago

    Otto, it took me 3 days to fix this room once, mind you I spent about 6 hours perfecting the distribution of plugs to multi-plug adapters (2x 5 bar 1x6 bar all full), the hiding of network cabling to other PCs, rooms and even my PS2, and finally wire ties for all my PC cables that were too long for their given task.

    Then of course there is sorting out the 70 or so DVDs (not quite on the level of Gestalts uber collection) into Alphabetical order in the freshly built Ikea floor stander, then the 200 or so CDs into the other same sized Ikea shelving unit only to find you had more CDs than you first suspected so you need to move letters S to Z onto another set of shelves. Then realising you have no where to put books and gadgets and so you end up with something as untidy as before, but in a different layout.

    Oh yes, got 7 shines now. Glad I bought that mem card 251 from game yesterday, I only had 6 blocks left on the 59.

  • terminalterror #108 10 years ago

    TerminalTerror - Blockbuster are doing a deal were you get Blade for something like £7 on DVD if you buy Blade 2.

    BTW. I picked up a Dreamcast in Tesco last night for £25 - it looks like they are clearing out the stock.


    Thanks, but unless they are selling Blade 3 for £10 (unlikely) then game's offer was better.

    Might look into that dreamcast offer, thanks for the info

  • Pirotic #109 10 years ago

    Just got my first shine - im really enjoying the game, i thought i had grown out of mario but i couldn't help wanting to explore every nook and cranny of the game worlds, graphics are lovely. screenshots really dont do it justice.

  • otto #110 10 years ago

    Well I was so pleased with myself for getting to IKEA and buying all the bits & pieces I needed by 11am that I treated myself to SMS and a memory 251 card from the shop next door. Suffice it to say that not one Billy bookshelf has been built since. LOL. I just stuck it on to take a quick look at it and the next couple of hours just sort of vanished somewhere. Spouse not happy. Two shines down but lots of exploring done - it's bloody ace. I love the way there's lots to do above & beyond just following the main plot. Don't like the camera controls but that's about the only grumble - so far.

  • Pirotic #111 10 years ago

    Had it since 3pm, its now.. erm.. 7, and i only have 11 shines, is this game difficult or am i losing my touch?

    platform levels are a big fidgety, adding the ghosts which come and knock you off is just adding insult to injury.. great game, the water effects are lovely even if the cut-scenes are FMV renditions of in-game graphics (notice the compression artifacts)

  • Fozzie_bear #112 10 years ago

    It is hard isn't it?

    Only got 7 shines so far but enjoying it a lot. It's tricky but (so far) never frustrating - there's always something else to go and do.

    To be honest I never liked the old Mario games (I don't care wahat anyone else says - Marios 1,2 and 3 stink).

  • Bill Gates is Evil #113 10 years ago

    I've already beaten the game.

    Mario games are always good and this one was no different. This just wasn't a very big jump in the series-- at all. It's obvious that this was originally a N64 game. And I kinda wish they would have left out the water-pack all together-- it becomes kind of annoying later in the game. The new Zelda OwnZ the new Mario, though. Can't wait for that one.

  • Pirotic #114 10 years ago

    well thats me wrapped up for the day, first day and i've got a grand total of 17 shines. got my mits on Yoshi but im not to sure what the point of having him is yet. I find the puzzles really frustrating, you know.. where you defeat a boss and it takes you to a bonus level which you must complete before losing all your lives, without the back-pack mario is rather limited in moves compared to Mario64 and i find it all a bit stressfull, the worlds a joy to explore however - its fun just noseying around for blue coins.

    the blurring effect is annoying, hurts my eyes as im normally always focused on an area in the distance rather than mario himself and therefore always looking at blurry objects. its neat in a way as far away objects "could" be coins.. u need to get in close to see, but my eyes!!! :(

  • Royal Fool #115 10 years ago

    I got it on Wednesday, and enjoying every bit of it. 84 shines down.... those blue coins are horribly well hidden!

    Mario Sunshine is probably yhe best platformer I've played in ages, and definitely the best one for the GameCube. For the next 2-3 years, if not longer. :)

    But, eh... I'm curious. My SMS case is purple (Versus the normal black coloring) and I didn't get a Nintendo VIP registration card with it, either. Anyone had the same problem?

  • Doogle #116 10 years ago

    I got this yesterday from Amazon and I haven't even played it yet.My six year old step-son has taken over and can't stop playing it.

    Damn

  • st3ph3n #117 10 years ago

    Purple Case and I got a VIP card in it.

    Do you only get VIP cards in actual Nintendo developed games, my Star Wars doesn't have one and monkey ball is on loan so didn't look.

    I did however register all the ones I had on the website, I can now "buy" loads of piss poor screensavers and stuff.

    I was hoping for something like the japanese dreamcast rewards system, you got so many points for a game and you could buy more games when you got enough.

  • Khab #118 10 years ago

    platform levels are a big fidgety, adding the ghosts which come and knock you off is just adding insult to injury..

    Yeh, what the FooK is up with those?? How the hell am I supposed to kill the bastards? I've been trying to do the third port-level for AGES now, and they keep knocking me down into the water as I get close to the big yellow cage-thingy. Any tips?`Maybe I'll just go look at Gamefaqs...

  • sam_spade #119 10 years ago

    Listen for the sound cues, when you hear it attack press jump and you should dodge it.

  • Bill Gates is Evil #120 10 years ago

    Gamesbitch, are you ever going to register?

  • Khab #121 10 years ago

    Oh really... Ok... Oh darn, now I gotta go try that. Cue no sleep for me. :)

  • Khab #122 10 years ago

    Now I have to try and get the shine after that the one where you have no pack and have to jump on all those turning planks of wood. If anyone found that level easy I take my hat off to you, its driving me up the wall.

    Yeah.... I turned the GC off in anger after losing 5 of my 13 lives... in two minutes. I got to the last section of it once, though... AAARGHH! And I already want to go back abnd try again. :)

  • sam_spade #123 10 years ago

    I'd prefer the platform sections to have checkpoints after you've picked up a certain amount of extra lives.

    I do think the camera is better than SM64 because it generally sticks in the place you want when you've moved it - not drifted around once you'd set it like in SM64.

  • Nemesis #124 10 years ago

    Well I got about an hours play of this as I had the kids over, but it's sweet.

    Camera is a bit of a pain in the arse to be honest, I much prefer the Jak and Daxter method whereby it takes care of itself.

    The FLUDD gadget is going to be fun.

  • Killerbee #125 10 years ago

    I much prefer the Jak and Daxter method whereby it takes care of itself.

    I've not played SMS (ngh! must... borrow... Gamecube...) but I agree the Jak & Daxter camera is about the best I've seen in a platformer - it usually picks the best viewing angle and if you need to move it (e.g. to jump across those bridges with the missing planks) you can - and it stays there whilst you complete the manoeuvre. The only annoyance being when you're close to a wall and it sometimes won't look 'outwards'.

  • binky #126 10 years ago

    had a quick go in Virgin Megastore at the weekend, but the controller was a bit knackered :/
    seems very much akin to M64 but with a bit more oomph. which is no bad thing.

    What are the weekend impressions of it so far then ??

  • Nemesis #127 10 years ago

    My gut feeling binky?

    Not as good as Jak and Daxter.

    But let me give it more time and get back to you on that one!

  • Machiavel #128 10 years ago

    I'm glad that SMS has got that sense of delight which you often seem to find in Nintendo games. Fludd is fun, as is bouncing needlessly off people's heads and I don't find the camera as annoying as I feared.

    I remember reading on gamerankings someone bemoaning the lack of 'memorable' stars. So far (15 shines) I'm not disappointed. The Mecha-bowser set piece was spectacular and the fludd-less platform levels have a charm all of their own (though I'm stuck on the sandbird level - and I don't mind!).

    To be critical, I could happily lose the fruit-gathering sections (that's not fun, people) and found on the fairground red coin level a creeping sensation of "Why bother?" So more jumping on people's heads then...

  • Super Stu #129 10 years ago

    I'll say it here. I don't know if it's appropriate or if anyone gives a shit, but I'll say it anyway.

    My fiancee of 2 years has called off our engagement. There's no ill-will, we've just grown apart. I'm going to move down from Scotland back down to Wales as soon as I can.

    Heh, I got no one to whinge to me when I get an Xbox now.

  • binky #130 10 years ago

    :/ erk. hope ur ok, and its good that there's no bad feelings :o

    whilst we are diverting. Did Anyone catch PRINCE in Hammersmith this weekend? He was totally awesome!!!

  • ssuellid #131 10 years ago

    SuperStu, no idea what to say really - just hope everything turns out OK.

    Which part of Wales?

  • jiroczech #132 10 years ago

    Ben Kenobi said..'Now I have to try and get the shine after that the one where you have no pack and have to jump on all those turning planks of wood. If anyone found that level easy I take my hat off to you, its driving me up the wall.'

    Remove your headgear now.

    Thing with these turning blocks puzzles is that you can just run round them - only jump to get from one block to the next. I found that level easy but it messed with my head. All those blocks rotating at weird angles.. I think that's what H.P.Lovecraft envisaged when he wrote about non-euclidean space.
    Edited by jiroczech at 07/10/02 @ 11:19

  • Super Stu #133 10 years ago

    Which part of Wales?

    Caerphilly, about 7 miles outside Cardiff. Home of fucking huge castles and cheese.
    Edited by Super Stu at 07/10/02 @ 11:22

  • ssuellid #134 10 years ago

    I know Caerphilly - its where my parents currently live. Nice views, cheap beer and easy access to Cardiff.

  • Nemesis #135 10 years ago

    Hang on in there Stu you'll be alright son. We've all been there, it aint easy.

  • Pirotic #136 10 years ago

    im upto 20 shines now - and i've decided that the cell-shaded cutscenes just look tacky and this is by far the most annoying mario title, still a great game.

    IMHO Jak and Daxter is better, but SMS is better than Mario64 as it has slightly more of a plot and less puzzles which is how i like em

  • UncleLou #137 10 years ago

    Hey Stu, hope you can cope with it and that you're ok. Always a sad thing, even if both agree that one has simply grown apart.

    And hey, noone can stop you now when it comes to owning all next-gen consoles! :-)

    edit: just saw you said that already - sorry ;)
    Edited by UncleLou at 07/10/02 @ 11:38

  • Mr_Sleep #138 10 years ago

    Sorry to hear about that Stu, I hope everything works out. Will Wales welcome you back though? ;)

  • Super Stu #139 10 years ago

    Wales had better be ready, there's a fat miserable bastard on his way back there :)

    It occured to me this morning. There are minimal police patrol cars up here, there isn't a speed camera within 100 miles of here and there's hardly anyone on the roads.

    I seriously need to bring the cruising speed of 90 down a bit for the speed camera-infested city life again.

    Shite.

  • UncleLou #140 10 years ago

    "I seriously need to bring the cruising speed of 90 down a bit for the speed camera-infested city life again."

    Good thing then that Burnout2 is in the pipeline, huh? It will certainly work as a compensation.

  • Mr_Sleep #141 10 years ago

    They have even gone so far as to have speed cameras mobile now, they perch themselves in vans in hot spots and film from there, it is really sneaky and does nothing to actually deter speeding, it is just an excuse to make some money.

    Scotland's roads are fantastic as I recall.
    Edited by Mr_Sleep at 07/10/02 @ 11:46

  • st3ph3n #142 10 years ago

    The roads here are quite good. You can do the 50 miles from the outskirts of Edinburgh to the outskirts of Glasgow in less than 30 minutes without any problems at all. If it's at night that is, during the day it's a slowly moving car park of a road.

  • ssuellid #143 10 years ago

    On the subject of Caerphilly and speed cameras, there is a dual carriageway that goes past the aircraft engine refurb factory in Caerphilly which they have stuck a 30mph limit and speed cameras on. They supposedly caught over a 1000 people speeding the first week they put the cameras up.

  • UncleLou #144 10 years ago

    "keep your chin up... or if you look like the rest of us game/pie addicts.. chins!"

    "there's a fat miserable bastard on his way back there"

    Lol, two people admitting they are slightly overweight in one single thread. Anyone else, maybe? ;)

  • Pirotic #145 10 years ago

    I thought the GC was ment to remember you like the 60hz good-ness and stop asking you after a while :p oh well i can't complain. as for splitting up.. i split up with my fiancé for 2 years a few months back, was difficult but by total fluke i've gone and met a really incredible girl who im seeing now :) just hold ur head up high and remember it happens to everybody at some point, better to end it while your still on good terms rather than stretch what you had and end up at each others throats.
    Edited by Pirotic at 07/10/02 @ 12:03

  • Mr_Sleep #146 10 years ago

    ssuelid, I bet there wasn't any prior warning either, I hate the way they do that, it's just to get a bit of extra cash. It does piss me off.

    @Unceelou, 6ft and about 13 stone...slightly overweight, yes :)

  • Killerbee #147 10 years ago

    Good thing then that Burnout2 is in the pipeline, huh? It will certainly work as a compensation.

    Indeed! Have you read about Acclaim's latest marketing stunt? Crazy stuff...

    Anyway, sorry to hear the news, Stu. I won't bore you with all the generic "make someone feel better" shite ;-), but I hope you feel a bit more cheery soon.

  • UncleLou #148 10 years ago

    "6ft and about 13 stone"

    Er, can you translate this into something we beyond the channel are able to understand?

  • Pirotic #149 10 years ago

    if i recall, for 6 foot anything between 11-13 stone is healthy, so i wouldn't worry yourself to much.

  • Mr_Sleep #150 10 years ago

    182.93 height and 85.729ish weight :) Check here for conversion rates. I haven't checked my weight for ages although I think it has gone down of late.

  • UncleLou #151 10 years ago

    Hey, I've found a converter! But it says I am 3.3 ft and 13.5 stone?!


    edit: this one works better. I am 13.4 stone(s?) and 6.36 feet, then. Makes more sense.
    Edited by UncleLou at 07/10/02 @ 12:13

  • Mr_Sleep #152 10 years ago

    Are you perhaps abnormally tall Lou? 6 ft 4" is a lot compared to the average which is about 6 ft now :)

  • Super Stu #153 10 years ago

    5'11 and 16 stone. A bit tubby.

    Ssuellid, thanks for the heads up on the dual carriage way down Nantgarw. Used to cane it down that road driving to school. It used to be 40mph, so will keep an eye out for the 30mph limit.

    Pirotic: glad there's light at the end of the tunnel mate, mine seems to be heading toward a black hole atm.

  • Killerbee #154 10 years ago

    Did anyone see celebrity fit club the other day? That Rick Waller was 30 stone!!!!! That made him 17 stone overweight!

    I am still in shock. I hope he never falls on top of anyone else.
    Edited by Killerbee at 07/10/02 @ 12:20

  • UncleLou #155 10 years ago

    I am quite tall, yes, but somehow I don't like the term "abnormally". ;) Maybe something was wrong with the conversion again. In good old continental meters, I am 1.94.

  • Mr_Sleep #156 10 years ago

    It was the first word that popped into my head, "Are you perhaps taller than all the other lesser folk?"

    The 192 sounds about right to me, like I say the average is 5ft11" I think.

  • Westy #157 10 years ago

    Has anybody else noticed that Gamecube stories always get the most comments?

  • Super Stu #158 10 years ago

    Halo.

  • eviltobz #159 10 years ago

    talking of which, if no-one else is going to do it...

    u gave this game more than halo, u gamecube loving whores. xbox roxors gaycube suxors etc.

  • sam_spade #160 10 years ago

    ooh, I know the rest of this one.


    Ignore the score.

  • Alastair #161 10 years ago

    'Has anybody else noticed that Gamecube stories always get the most comments?'

    Erm have you missed the Buffy and Money No Object threads? Both over 300...

  • Mr_Sleep #162 10 years ago

    "Buffy"

    Most of that thread was completely off the topic of games as well.

  • Alastair #163 10 years ago

    Careful, you'll only set Errol off!

  • Tricky #164 10 years ago

    Heh - 52 shines and counting... but then I don't have a girlfriend to worry about at the moment (although working on that too). Sorry to hear about your news Super Stu - like everone's been saying though, you'll get over it. I split up with my fiance this time last year and I'm only just doing something about finding someone else - with all the crap and fallout from breaking up I felt I needed a break from all that relationship garbage :-)

    As for Mario - well slap me down if it isn't absolutely bloody great. I just love how there's always something to do and the level of control you have over Mario is just perfect - although whoever it was saying that the FLUDD-less platform levels didn't have as much control as in SM64 obviously is talking out their a*se; the only thing missing is the ability to crawl and who needs that? You've got the super-spinny jump instead!

    Well I can see that this is going to keep me occupied in game terms for some time which means I won't have to buy any more games for a while; ultimate result is that I'll have more money for taking this girl I've met out so basically, I'm a happy man.

  • brutal #165 10 years ago

    played blinx yesterday... i have to say i wasn't all that impressed - seemed very slow after playing mario the previous day for 6 hours.

    I still enjoyed jak & daxter more than either though :/

  • Tricky #166 10 years ago

    Nah - Jak And Daxter's too easy. Bit like a girl I used to know - easy on the eyes and easy to "get on with" but really there's just no challenge. And it's no fun unless it's a challenge.

  • brutal #167 10 years ago

    theres no fun in dying 20 times on the same bloody non-jetpack challenge.....

    j&d was too easy though - did it 100% in 2 days.. lol

  • Fozzie_bear #168 10 years ago

    I'm going to move down from Scotland back down to Wales as soon as I can.

    Heh, I got no one to whinge to me when I get an Xbox now.

    With all those mountains I'm surprised there's enough falt space to put an X-Box down in Wales.

    Keep your chin up Stu and look on the bright side.
    Don't think about it as the end of a relationship - more a chance to give your ears a rest for a while ;)

  • eviltobz #169 10 years ago

    Blinx got 6.3 from gamespot

    lol :)

    yet more proof that you should never believe the hype that gets thrown around.

  • Tiitiz #170 10 years ago

    duc - I bet your happy about Blinx. Could have been a bad day for the reviewer, Mario fanboy or had a row with the boyfriend for all we know. I dont go by reviews so much, unless its much hyped by at least 5 different sites.

    eviltobz - Do you even know how a search engine works?? There are more sites and magazines than Gamespot. Try www.gamerankings.com as it gives you a kinda overview on what sites rated what.

    I bought a GC weekened before last for Resident Evil and to be ready for Mario. Mario is a great game but the Camera has got to be the worst I have ever had to deal with since the C64 days. It's ok at the start but some Episodes from like 30 Shines plus are near impossible. There should have been an option so you can run around when the camera is above your right shoulder instead of just standing still.

    Still, the next game im gonna shed out money for on my GC is gonna be Zelda.
    Edited by Tiitiz at 07/10/02 @ 20:56

  • sam_spade #171 10 years ago

    Which C64 game has a rogue camera?

    The only time I've had a real problem is when you are taking on the ferris wheel, but I found a quicker way to get up to the top.

    Name a third-person action game with a perfect camera and I'll name you a liar.

  • Bill Gates is Evil #172 10 years ago

    Duc, you don't seem to be wanting things to go right for GameCube more than you hope things go wrong for Xbox. That anti-microsoftism is extremely stupid of you.

    Time will prove, however, that you'll have no choice but to purchase a Microsoft console-- if you wish to continue gaming, of course.

    Oh and here is another new-formed prediction of mine--- Microsoft is going to buy Nintendo near the beginning of the next generation.

    Yes, yes, I know that this has all be attempted before. Nintendo's asking price of 25 billion wasn't worth it to Microsoft because all it would do would turn the Xbox into "nintendos next console" which obviously hasn't worked for GameCube. So instead, Microsoft decides to create its own development power by purchasing several small developers for the first generation of Xbox, then purchasing a soon-to-be-defunct Nintendo at the beginning of next.

    Rumors have been in OXM about Mario being on an Xbox console as early as 2005. Another rumor in the same magazine is a high-level Microsoft employee talking about how nice it would if Nintendo we're a MSoft first party.

    Some other evidence is Micrsoft's willingness to make such huge purchases. Namely Linux cost them 19 billion, and Nintendo's offer of 25 billion will be considerably smaller next time Microsoft goes to the dealing table. Since Nintendo's stock has already fallen 40% this year alone, Nintendo is nearing the market cap of EA. EA is 10 billion strong.

    But even more important is Microsoft's cash. Microsoft's profits have followed an almost linear trend. Their 40 billion dollar bank now will be near 90 billion in 2005.

    Other evidence comes from the fact that Nintendo willingly sold their most important developer to Microsoft (?!?) and that Microsoft is supporting GBA, as long as their shiny new 1st party developer.

    But finally the most important fact would be to consider how important buying Nintendo would be to Microsoft. Their original plan was to release both the XBox and a portable to begin a line of consoles and portables that'll eventually take over the world. Anyway, buying Nintendo would not only assure a victory in the next generation war, but it would immediately score a new monopoly for Microsoft in the form of handheld gaming. One immediate monopoly and the promise of a future one would be quite nice for Microsoft.

    So my official prediction is this--- in 1095 days or less, Microsoft will have bought out Nintendo.

    And this ISN'T the major-japenese developer the rumors have been talking about. That purchase will likely happen within the next few months.

  • sam_spade #173 10 years ago

    *sigh*

    It is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so.
    Edited by sam_spade at 07/10/02 @ 21:50

  • Bill Gates is Evil #174 10 years ago

    Just wait, my friend. Just wait.

  • Whizzo #175 10 years ago

    Linux cost them 19 billion
    Er amongst the rest of the strange pronouncements in your post this is the most weird, Linux is still and will always be open-source, MS haven't bought it and couldn't even if they wanted to.

  • Bill Gates is Evil #176 10 years ago

    Whizzo, I suggest a quick Yahoo! search. "Microsoft acquires Linux".

    But of course could "never" happen, according to you. Ah. The ill-informed. You've got to love them!
    Edited by Bill Gates is Evil at 07/10/02 @ 22:05

  • Whizzo #177 10 years ago

    Er do that and the first link with the headline "MICROSOFT ACQUIRES LINUX OPERATING SYSTEM FOR $18 BILLION" is so obviously a joke only the very dim could be taken in. I suggest you go to Linux.org where strangely enough Linux is still, as ever, an open source project...
    Edited by Whizzo at 07/10/02 @ 22:07

  • UncleLou #178 10 years ago

    Lol, or rather ROFL, really ROFL, did you REALLY believe that news about MS buying Linux, Bill?

    edit: go to MSLINUX to find further facts

    edit: er, some typos and, er, html, and...
    Edited by UncleLou at 07/10/02 @ 23:47

  • sam_spade #179 10 years ago

    The fact that the link has unix humour in it, says it all.

    Bill do you believe everything you read?

    Send me £200 now to make yourself more intelligent. One time offer, get it now!

  • UncleLou #180 10 years ago

    Hm, all quiet now on the Western front, huh?

    Well, it was a deep hit.

    edit: Trying to improve my html skills. Doesn't work the way I want yet. :(
    Edited by UncleLou at 07/10/02 @ 22:40

  • sam_spade #181 10 years ago

    No wonder he wrote so much, everytime he read it back it suddenly became a solid fact. :)

    edit: Uncle this may help you out.
    Edited by sam_spade at 07/10/02 @ 22:38

  • Razz #182 10 years ago

    "182.93 height and 85.729ish weight :) Check here for conversion rates. I haven't checked my weight for ages although I think it has gone down of late."

    201 metres height and 99kg.
    er.. 6'7", 218 pounds

  • UncleLou #183 10 years ago

    No kiddin', Razz? You are taller than me, mate!

    edit: thanks, sam. You are a Dashiell Hammett fan, then?
    Edited by UncleLou at 07/10/02 @ 22:43

  • sam_spade #184 10 years ago

    I am indeedy.

  • UncleLou #185 10 years ago

    Must admit I always preferred Chandler to a degree, but Hammett is ace, too. Not to forget Cornell Woolrich, of course. :)

  • sam_spade #186 10 years ago

    I'm not as big a Chandler fan, I find his plots too similar and his writing not as page-turningly good as Hammett.

  • UncleLou #187 10 years ago

    Well, Chandler's plots definitely aren't the best, and they sometimes even make no real sense (Chandler himself admitted that0,) but he was a master of witty, dry-humoured dialogues. But I agree that Hammett is more suspenseful.

  • sam_spade #188 10 years ago

    I actually based a college project on Chandler's style, before I'd read a word of Hammett. I also like Mickey Spillane, a man who is almost as interesting as the world he writes about.
    Edited by sam_spade at 07/10/02 @ 23:28

  • Whizzo #189 10 years ago

    Oh I thought by the time I'd watched an hour of excellent comedy on BBC2, BGiE would have responded and shown just how ill-informed I really was. Ho-hum.

  • otto #190 10 years ago

    Coupling & the Office followed by "MS buys Linux" - big LOL! :D

  • otto #191 10 years ago

    "A moderator who's been out of the country for two days"?

    "An off-duty moderator"?

    I dunno, what? :p

  • Razz #192 10 years ago

    I've finally got round to opening my gamecube an hour ago... fired up Mario Sunshine... played it for 30 mins, got bored, returning the GC tomorrow. Sorry guys. I've always loved Nintendo, but I think I've grown out of nintendo games. Roll on XBOX.

  • The Critic #193 10 years ago

    For some reason the 'ignore BGIE' didn't work.

    For once (RE: MS buys Linux), I'm glad it didn't. Heh ;)

  • Razz #194 10 years ago

    "YOUR NOT NORMAL"
    You know what. There's just too much to do in the game! Too much to explore, too many tedious quests, its just plain boring and it looks like muck. I dunno... maybe I'll trade it in for Lugui's Mansion.

  • Razz #195 10 years ago

    "Try super smash bros melee,"

    I've played it at my mates house. I didn't like that either, it brought back too many bad Powerstone memories.
    Er... Can anyone reccomend me a good GC game? I read Otto's comments earlier, I also am not a fan of survival horror, we have similar taste perhaps you can advise me.

  • Ciaran #196 10 years ago

    Razz, my personal advice would be to get either Super Monkey Ball (the first one) and/or Rogue Leader, if you don't have them yet. Both are gorgeous in their own way, they're great fun and they'll last for quite some time.

    I got both Monkey Ball and Rogue Leader at the Euro GC launch and am still trying to finish them. (I'm currently at expert level 8 or 9 in Monkey Ball and completely and utterly stuck on Vengeance on Kothlis (sp?) level in Rogue Leader). Those two are definitely worth your hard-earned cash!

  • otto #197 10 years ago

    Ciaran, amazing, we seem to be stuck in identical places in SMB & RL. :o

    I'd agree those two games are great, perhaps SSX Tricky too if you haven't got it for PS2? Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin are both good (the 'survival horror' thing was, erm, kind of a joke) but I've not had the time to dedicate to them. SMB & SSX are more useful in that respect in that you can pick them up for quick blasts.

    As for Mario, I'm going to have a lot of fun with it for a long time, I should think. HOWEVER, I'll never finish it - not even close - I think I'm safe in predicting that already. I simply hate games that won't let you save mid-level, especially when they're full of frustrating platform puzzles that take multiple goes to get past. I don't have the time to sit down and play for an hour at a pop! :p

  • Pirotic #198 10 years ago

    Sorry guys. I've always loved Nintendo, but I think I've grown out of nintendo games. Roll on Xbox

    Yer.. what 20-something guy in his right mind would want to play a "kiddy" mario game when you can play as Blinx the time sweeping pussy cat, Hunt dinosours and stare at virtual women.

    sorry, but i've played Sunshine and its by no means designed for kids, its far to difficult for them.

  • eviltobz #199 10 years ago

    just to bring things back to the MS Linux bit, all the links I saw on yahoo were date June 1998 in the first line of the text. surely thats gotta be a clue...

  • otto #200 10 years ago

    Whizzo, I suggest a quick Yahoo! search. "Microsoft acquires Linux".

    But of course could "never" happen, according to you. Ah. The ill-informed. You've got to love them!

    *still chuckling*

    heh

  • sam_spade #201 10 years ago

    /wrenches topic back off eviltobz

    I managed to finish Mario64 about four years after I bought it. I'm thinking it will be the same for Sunshine. I have a terrible sulk problem with games like these - so I have two goes on a platform level (the second one usually lasts about 15 seconds) and then I have to do something else for half an hour till I've calmed down.

  • otto #202 10 years ago

    lol, me too. I got about four levels into Super Mario World on GBA before giving up in disgust. I'll probably go back to it some time next year.

  • UncleLou #203 10 years ago

    "*still chuckling*"

    He'll never recover from that, will he? Everytime he'll make one of his propecies, someone will link to this thread. It's not the fact he said something which just isn't true (everyone did that some time), it's the combination of his big acting and the so obviously fake news. Lol.
    Edited by UncleLou at 08/10/02 @ 11:08

  • sam_spade #204 10 years ago

    *click*
    Add to Favorites
    *tap-tap-tap*
    Name = Bill Gates is Evil Thread of Shame
    *Click*
    OK

  • otto #205 10 years ago

    Put it this way, his credibility as a self-styled industry expert (not that he had any to begin with) kind of got blown out of the water. :)

  • eviltobz #206 10 years ago

    /wrenches topic back off eviltobz

    sorry sam, u just aint strong enough ;)

  • sam_spade #207 10 years ago

    :p

  • Machiavel #208 10 years ago

    Right. 19 stars and I'm stuck on all the four open worlds. There's me swaggering with gamer conceit at completing Pete Piranha's revenge and now I'm faced with polluted water, a harbour meccano set puzzle, eight irresponsibly placed red coins in the fairground and a sandbird that seems to have only seven.

    I don't want to turn to a faq - you'll lose that sense of discovery and (eventual) satisfaction. But what's left? Pottering around town delivering fruit!

  • otto #209 10 years ago

    Right - about to embarrass myself here - how do you pick up those damn durians?? Hitting the B button ain't doing it - I only seem able to kick the damn things... :(

  • sam_spade #210 10 years ago

    I'm with otto on this one, I haven't got a clue. Unless you have to actually boot them across - something which may snap my, already, fragile mind.

  • ssuellid #211 10 years ago

    "about to embarrass myself here "

    After what BGIE said you have no chance. I wonder if he wants to help me move some cash out of Nigeria? Or buy some magic beans?

  • Mr_Sleep #212 10 years ago

    I am sure he will come back and claim he knew it was a joke...

  • Whizzo #213 10 years ago

    I thought he may have deleted the comments after he realised his mistake, however I've now got a copy sitting on my HD so when I'm feeling a little down I can open it up and feel a little bit better! ;-)

  • otto #214 10 years ago

    I thought he may have deleted the comments after he realised his mistake

    ...which is why I quoted him. In fact, why don't I do it again?

    Whizzo, I suggest a quick Yahoo! search. "Microsoft acquires Linux". But of course could "never" happen, according to you. Ah. The ill-informed. You've got to love them!

    *sniggers*

  • Mr_Sleep #215 10 years ago

    "Some other evidence is Micrsoft's willingness to make such huge purchases. Namely Linux cost them 19 billion, and Nintendo's offer of 25 billion will be considerably smaller next time Microsoft goes to the dealing table. Since Nintendo's stock has already fallen 40% this year alone, Nintendo is nearing the market cap of EA. EA is 10 billion strong."

    For posterity :)

  • Whizzo #216 10 years ago

    No otto, I'm still not getting your meaning? :-)

  • BartonFink #217 10 years ago

    I thought he may have deleted the comments after he realised his mistake

    ...which is why I quoted him. In fact, why don't I do it again?

    Whizzo, I suggest a quick Yahoo! search. "Microsoft acquires Linux". But of course could "never" happen, according to you. Ah. The ill-informed. You've got to love them!

    *sniggers*

    LOL&ROFL - Please guys stop yer killing me just ruined my monitor with coffee. Missed that one

  • sam_spade #218 10 years ago

    I think we should stop teasing him now because we have better things to worry about.

    Like <A href="http://www.theonion.com/onion3627/video_game_characters.html" target=_new>rampaging video characters in a completely true news story</a> - watch out Bill the Master Chief is coming for you!

    In other news Gameplay is flogging a load of naff THQ games.

  • UncleLou #219 10 years ago

    Btw, the source of this news is www.denounce.com which is subtitled "All the news that never happened".

  • ssuellid #220 10 years ago

    Re Gameplays sale:-

    Play.com seem to be selling a different title cheap every week on every platform.

    This week its

    GC - Red Card soccer for £17.99
    XBox - Wreckless for £16.99
    GBA - Bomberman Tournament for £14.99
    PS2 - MGS2 for £17.99
    DVD - Godfather Boxed set for £35.99

    edit - forgot the PC - Mafia for £22.99
    Edited by ssuellid at 08/10/02 @ 13:36

  • Mr_Sleep #221 10 years ago

    Reminds me of that scene in Galaxy Quest "Whoever wrote this episode should die!"

  • eviltobz #222 10 years ago

    I simply hate games that won't let you save mid-level, especially when they're full of frustrating platform puzzles that take multiple goes to get past.

    from what i can gather, when you save in game it remembers any of the important stuff that you've got. well, the blue coins anyway. so you can have a good explore around, find loads of blue coins and let the game save, then just concentrate on finishing the level separately. which so far has been pretty easy once you acquire the boost pack :) The gold coins just seem to respawn each time you start the level so i tend to ignore them unless i need health.

  • otto #223 10 years ago

    -> eviltobz: yes exactly, I think that's how it works. Which is OK as far as it goes but a real pain when you spend ages and ages trying to get past a given obstacle only to have to do it all over again next time you start. Still, haven't got that rocket pack yet so let's see if that makes a difference...

  • Azule #224 10 years ago

    Right - about to embarrass myself here - how do you pick up those damn durians?? Hitting the B button ain't doing it - I only seem able to kick the damn things... :(

    If this helps, just keep walking with it at about running pace, it won't kick across the screen then.

  • eviltobz #225 10 years ago

    theres also some walkthrough bits here.

    just had a bit of a glance at a couple and theres some pretty useful stuff there for getting past bits that have been causing me trouble.

  • Nemesis #226 10 years ago

    If you pick up the Official Ninty mag you get a free seperate SMS guide which is quite snazzy.

    /thump of money pouch/

    Why thankyou.

  • otto #227 10 years ago

    Cheers Azule, doesn't really help much though cos they disappear after a set period of time (meaning the task is against the clock?) and you can't take them down with you into the tunnels, so I'm guessing it's an annoying "pixel perfect timed hoof across the canal" jobby.

    Also cheers for the link eviltobz, I confess I've already checked gamefaqs and not found the answer to the durian question (haven't looked at all the walkthroughs though).

  • eviltobz #228 10 years ago

    theres a specific isle delfino walkthrough which has a paragraph about the durians in there

  • otto #229 10 years ago

    thx tobz

  • otto #230 10 years ago

    Seems that, yes, you have to boot it.

  • eviltobz #231 10 years ago

    so not only do you have the main game to play, but also a football (footdurian???) mini game. hows that for value. hmmmmm.

  • otto #232 10 years ago

    btw anyone here actually eaten durian? It smells like the cheese scraped from the devil's scrotum, and given that fact I can't actually tell you what it tastes like. :p

  • Azule #233 10 years ago

    Back to square one again, otto. :p

  • Azule #234 10 years ago

    I didn't even know those fruits(?) had a name. Maybe if I'd gone on vacation to a tropical island I would know.

  • Nemesis #235 10 years ago

    2) Durian tastes very strange but 'fresh' not unlike a riper kind of watermelon, once you get past the smell...

    Er, still doesn't sound that enticing sorry!

  • otto #236 10 years ago

    Ah sod it the old bat can go without durians for all I care

  • Azule #237 10 years ago

    It smells like the cheese scraped from the devil's scrotum, and given that fact I can't actually tell you what it tastes like. :p

    Can I put that into a phrase: satanic smegma.

    /crawls back from where I came/
    Edited by Azule at 08/10/02 @ 17:21

  • Azule #238 10 years ago

    I'm pretty sure NTSC Cube's do not support RGB.

  • otto #239 10 years ago

    What's wrong with a PAL one?

  • Razz #240 10 years ago

    "It smells like the cheese scraped from the devil's scrotum"

    I've actually licked it from source.

  • sam_spade #241 10 years ago

    From Magic Box

    Nintendo of Europe announced they have sold 175,000 copies of Super Mario Sunshine for GameCube in Europe, during the first weekend of the release, the sales of the GameCube hardware has also increased by 40% in the same week.

  • mentat #242 10 years ago

    Well I can honestly say that i've never had as much fun with a console in such a short time as i have with my cube.
    Am well chuffed i swapped the 'box for it.
    Picked up SMS at the weekend, and whilst in my local games trader i spotted pikmin for 20 brand new. So i bought that aswell...
    Pikmin is sublime! I love that game. SMS is fantastic, SMB and SSB:M are superb both single and multi player. Rogue leader is like being in a film (albeit a sodding hard one..)

    I think for the first half hour of playing this game i was just running around squirting everything with water and boosting over things. So much fun :)
    Anyway, that's my Ninty fanboyism over for now... But my ps2's hardly getting a look in these days...

  • mentat #243 10 years ago

    hmmm. maybe. am waiting for GTA vice city of course.

    And i expect that BGIE is off trying to gather really useful info about how microsoft are actually buying out the ports at this very moment, giving each of the picketers a free xbox bundle in order that they allow all MS shipments through the blockade, but throw all the sony and ninty ones in the water.
    It's true! Honest - i just made that up, therefore it has to be true!!!!
    Ahem.

  • Nemesis #244 10 years ago

    I'm waiting for the 'MS buying out Apple next week' one.

    Well of all my consoles, I regard the GC as the cute baby of the family.

    SMB - try to finish the beginner levels without losing a life to get the bonus levels after lvl10.

  • mentat #245 10 years ago

    it's certainly the most entertaining...
    However i was somewhat dismayed to discover that my SMB save got corrupted the other day - just about to unlock the first game that you need the points for, and i lost it all.... :(
    Have to start over...

  • Nemesis #246 10 years ago

    No way!

    Official memory card?

    I can finish the beginner levels now without losing a life, which helps when you want to unlock those mini-games. ;-)

  • Mr_Sleep #247 10 years ago

    "M$ buy's out Sony in shock $1 sale, Sony realising the futility of trying to compete against M$ step down their bid to be a better company. Dick Darlington is quoted as saying "We suck". Analysts have predicted this sale ever since M$ purchased Linux, Uranus and Pluto."

    For this amazing story and more go to http://www.theillinformed.com
    Edited by Mr_Sleep at 09/10/02 @ 12:35

  • Whizzo #248 10 years ago

    It's true! Honest - i just made that up, therefore it has to be true!!!!

    You've convinced me, the use of so many exclamation points helps validate your statement. ;-)

  • UncleLou #249 10 years ago

    -> Mr Sleep: Hey, your link even works!

    edit: Oh no, you have changed it.
    Edited by UncleLou at 09/10/02 @ 12:38

  • mentat #250 10 years ago

    Not sure - i think it's a third party card. I'll probbly pick up an official larger card at the weekend and copy everything across onto that instead...
    I think the problem for me in SMB is i try to pick up all the bananas, if i just go straight to the end of the level i might manage to rack the points up a little faster!

  • Mr_Sleep #251 10 years ago

    Really? LMAO, oh well I thought the edit was more referential. The link was www.BillGatesIsEvil.com ;)
    Edited by Mr_Sleep at 09/10/02 @ 12:42

  • sam_spade #252 10 years ago

    If you do a search for Bill Gates Evil on Google, Eurogamer is the sixth website to appear. If we get him back we could be top!

  • Mr_Sleep #253 10 years ago

    I somehow don't think Europ...*cough* Bill Gates is evil will return any time soon, I think his ego would impede that ;)

  • otto #254 10 years ago

    -> Nemesis: "SMB - try to finish the beginner levels without losing a life to get the bonus levels after lvl10"

    Please tell me you've only just done this? In other words, that I am actually as good as/better than you at something? :D

  • Alastair #255 10 years ago

    RE SMB. D'you know, I only discovered the practice mode yesterday!!
    Still have trouble with Advanced lvl 15 (the one where you go back and forth and it gets steeper each time.)
    Haven't tried to do Easy without losing a life yet. How many extra levels do you get?
    Adv 26 and Expert 6 are as far as I've got. And I'm rubbish at Monkey Target. :o(
    Edited by Alastair at 09/10/02 @ 13:03

  • mentat #256 10 years ago

    trust me, Otto - you'll be better at SMB than i am. I really suck at it - can't figure out why the hell i like the game so much!

  • Nemesis #257 10 years ago

    Please tell me you've only just done this? In other words, that I am actually as good as/better than you at something? :D

    Um. Well you post more than I do! /quiet whistle/

    Haven't tried to do Easy without losing a life yet. How many extra levels do you get?

    You get 3 extra levels and they are quite fun, plus it gives you extra points to unlock the mini-games with.

    i think it's a third party card. I'll probbly pick up an official larger card at the weekend and copy everything across onto that instead

    May be worth it, I've not had a corruption on the official one. I'm always a little dubious about 3rd party cards, don't ask me why.

  • otto #258 10 years ago

    Haven't tried to do Easy without losing a life yet. How many extra levels do you get?

    Dunno, haven't managed to get past the first extra level. :(

    I'm probably somewhere between mediocre & utterly shit on the main game - though I *did* discover the practice option on the first day ;) - but I like to think I'm a bit good at the bowling. :)

  • Nemesis #259 10 years ago

    SMB

    Here's a good place to start, SMB FAQS courtesy of gamefaqs.

  • mentat #260 10 years ago

    ermmm. what practice mode?

    I didn't even find the monkey race and monkey fight bits until a mate showed me them!
    And i especially suck at monkey target. Unlike my mate who can quite happily manage to land on the tiny 500 targets... :/

  • Alastair #261 10 years ago

    'Unlike my mate who can quite happily manage to land on the tiny 500 targets'

    Bah! >o(

    'what practice mode? '
    When you select 'Main Game' try 'Practice Mode' instead. You can practice any of the levels you have unlocked. ie. the last one you got to!

  • otto #262 10 years ago

    Beginners Level 1 in Practice Mode is what I stick on for my 18-month-old daughter to launch her gaming career. She hasn't worked out how to go through the goal yet but she loves rolling the monkey around and as soon as time runs out it just starts up again. She loves the wavebird too.

  • sam_spade #263 10 years ago

    Practice Mode is what I stick on for my 18-month-old daughter to launch her gaming career

    Are you planning on her being the Tiger Woods of computer gaming?

  • Alastair #264 10 years ago

    Sounds like she's well on the way to being better than her father!
    ;o)

  • otto #265 10 years ago

    "pride comes before a fall"

    heh

  • Fozzie_bear #266 10 years ago

    Unlike my mate who can quite happily manage to land on the tiny 500 targets... :/

    Big deal.

    I can hit that big blue wobbly target every time!

    Hah!

  • Ciaran #267 10 years ago

    Only got the Expert extra levels left to unlock in the game now!

    Nope. After that, there still are Master Levels to unlock. Haven't played them, but I've read about them. ;) I think you have to beat Expert and Expert Extra without continuing.

    edit: Oh and by the way, I've got 14 Shines now, how many do you need before you can get those extra nozzles?
    Edited by Ciaran at 09/10/02 @ 22:46

  • otto #268 10 years ago

    How about you otto, up for the Expert challenge? heh.

    That would be an emphatic no. :)

    However I have noticed that my SMB 'skillz' have come in useful in SMS walking up palm trees etc.

    I've only had two really decent sit-down sessions with SMS and I've still only got five shines but I'm more and more in love with that game. It's the attention to detail. It's a work of art.

  • Wolfgang #269 10 years ago

    "It's a work of art."

    lol, pshhhh.

    Now for my opinion: Don't get me wrong, it's a good game. But it's basically a port of the never released Mario 64 2 with some nice effects thrown in. The camera is frustrating. Mario is just one body part short of being a full-blown girl, the colors are so bright they make my eyes bleed, and the game breaks absolutely no new ground for the series whatsoever. If I hadn't played games in 10 years i'd be blown off my couch, but i'll take Jak and Daxter over this. No offense to Nintendo or Mario, but the differences between this Mario and the original are entirely too small. Nintendo needs a new platform game that causes another revolution in the industry-- not the same platform game that caused a revolution over 10 years ago.

  • mentat #270 10 years ago

    Hey, quit hijacking the thread, talking about SMS. We were discussing 1337 SMB skills...

    Ciaran - i don't think it's a case of needing shines to get the nozzles, they are level dependant i think, for instance go through the first portal for a third time and the level then has nozzles for you to use.
    IIRC at any rate.

    And i managed to get through the beginner level of SMB without dying, and promptly died on the first extra level! Lol!

  • Ciaran #271 10 years ago

    Thanks mentat, I'll try that tonight. Oh, and yesterday, I finally succeeded in the durian-footy. I found the trick is in not trying to kick the fruit across. You need to use your head. ;-) (Run towards it at a good angle, press B to make Mario dive before he hits it and there you go. Works almost every time for me.)

  • otto #272 10 years ago

    secret move

    I'm talking about the wonky palm trees on the beach level you need to walk up.

    "It's a work of art." lol, pshhhh.

    I've been gaming since the late 70s, more or less, and I don't think I've ever been quite so impressed at the care lavished on a game. Note the Cube is my first console and I never played Mario 64. I'm talking about the little things like coloured birds flying around, fish in the sea, coral, hundreds of tiny details that add up to one beautiful experience. I dunno, I think it's a work of art, strictu sensu.

    Ciaran, thanks for the durian footy tip, I'll try that.

  • Nemesis #273 10 years ago

    Jak & Daxter = Copycat shite

    Aaaaaaaaaaaha. I. Dont. Think. So.

  • sam_spade #274 10 years ago

    Someone above mentioned Woolworths as a place to get it. Try there.

  • BartonFink #275 10 years ago

    Had a look around Dublin today same old packages.
    €249 + a game save €9 bollox.

    Doubt they are going to sell any of the official bundles until all the other stock has been shifted :(
    Just have to wait till Christmas then. Wouldn't mind only it mentions the official bundle on the back of SMS.
    Grrr

  • Whizzo #276 10 years ago

    Someone above mentioned Woolworths as a place to get it.

    They advertised the pack on TV, with it being £20 off, on the Thursday before SMS was launched. I was in Woolies this morning but didn't actually check if they were still doing it.

  • Razz #277 10 years ago

    "Good thing then that Burnout2 is in the pipeline, huh? It will certainly work as a compensation."

    Forgot to add - *chunk* //sound of money bag hitting desk//
    Edited by Razz at 11/10/02 @ 22:52

  • terminalterror #278 10 years ago

    Not meaning to gloat or anything, but I had completed Advanced Extra within about a week of getting SMB. But Expert Extra will NEVER be completed by anyone who doesn't work for a GameCube magazine or SEGA, let alone master mode. I am pretty confident I could get about half way through expert without losing a life (it would take me ages, but it seems possible) but I would definately come apart at the desert level with the thin platform, and the giant bumper thing that smashes from side to side. That is the single hardest level in the game outside of the extra levels.

    For any of you who think advanced 30 is a bitch (the loads of circles one), then you will simply not believe advanced extra 5, which is a clone, but twice as large with a crazy rotating disk at the end

  • FWB #279 10 years ago

    I'm still stuck mid-way through Advanced.

  • Razz #280 10 years ago

    YOU CAN SPIN AROUND ROPES IN SMS!!!! ^_^ Simply grab on to a rope, rather then walking, change to the "hover pack" and discharge waterto spin around ropes. If you push jump you will sail far into the pixelated background :p

  • otto #281 10 years ago

    there should've been MORE puzzle-obstacle-course-run-to-the-finish (making sense?) levels, they're so damn fun.

    Ack no!! *spits*

    /me grinds to a halt on Gelato Beach... :p

  • [Alt][F4] #282 10 years ago

    The bottle mini level was a pain, having that one red coin on top(you know the one) that made me scream in frustrasion more then once when I missed getting it YET again.
    Otherwise, the game's fantastic. Suprisingly, since I didn't enjoy previous N's Pikmin,Luigi & SSBM at all.
    (ok, Luigi wasn't that bad)

  • otto #283 10 years ago

    I've come away from yet ANOTHER failed attempt at getting through one of those damn obstacle courses and I'm seething with frustration. How can they piss me off so badly and unnecessarily when rest of the game is so much fun?? Gah!! Thing is, I'm going to have to do them if I want to progress any further in the damn game. Maybe I'll just wait until my daughter's old enough to do them for me... *sigh*

  • sam_spade #284 10 years ago

    Every morning I give an obstacle course a go. Of course I eventually die like a patsy in a game of Russian roulette. Then I spend the rest of the morning crashing into cars on Burnout 2.

    Then lunch comes around and I give SMS another go - and spend the rest of the afternoon crashing cars.

    Thank God for evenings when TV decides to be entertaining.

  • Machiavel #285 10 years ago

    Weird tip that somehow works for me:

    If you're failing at the same point on an SMS obstacle course, redo the level with the sound muted. This somehow sharpens my concentration thanks to the removal of sound cues.

    Hell, if it doesn't work for you, at least your expletives will resonate clear and fresh around the town...

  • otto #286 10 years ago

    lol, OK I'll try that... Failing that I'll just post Razz my memory card and he can do them for me...

  • Fozzie_bear #287 10 years ago

    Otto, try selling your soul to the devil.

    Oh - of course you work for the EU. Maybe a second mortgage then?

    :b

  • Razz #288 10 years ago

    ROFLOL

  • Ciaran #289 10 years ago

    Mmm... two more things about SMS:

    *Noki Bay is a masterpiece! :-D

    *If I ever happen to see a sandbird in real life, I'll wring its bloody neck. Argh! >:-(

  • Ciaran #290 10 years ago

    raised block on the wing

    Hey, I'll try that. I've never even gotten more than 5 coins on that wretched bird.. just keep falling off. Over. And over. And over.

    Thanks for the tip about that last red coin too! Razz==1337 ! Or something. ;)

  • #291 10 years ago

    SMB:Sunshine is simply a masterpiece. Never before have so many elements from previous Mario adventures been implemented in one game. Ahhhh.... nostalgia is a beautiful thing.
    Does anyone know how I can view the review and comments simultaneously?

  • UncleLou #292 10 years ago

    Does anyone know how I can view the review and comments simultaneously?

    Click on "edit profile" on the left menu bar, then check the box "inline comments".
    Edited by UncleLou at 16/10/02 @ 20:48

  • #293 10 years ago

    Cheers! (b)

    *remembers that this isn't MSN messenger* :|

  • Fozzie's_bird #294 10 years ago

    Don't think about it as the end of a relationship - more a chance to give your ears a rest for a while ;)

    Hmm, just spotted that one. Wait till i get my hands on a certain bear, grumble, grumble.

    I completed the Sand Bird Mission on my first attempt! :)

    Me too, however i found walking around the neck method worked - also handy practice for spinning blocks in the platform levels.

    Theres nothing quite like the relief of getting through a level thats taken a few attempts tho, and theres usually a really easy level following each difficult one.

    Does anyone else wish shadow mario would keep peach or just kill the annoying cow?



  • BartonFink #295 10 years ago

    Crareful Errol might be listening ;)
    I'd say he would have one or two suggestions about what Mario should do with her.

  • Fozzie_bear #296 10 years ago

    I'm not going to hear the last of the old munter doing the sand bird level on her first go am I?

    I was sat there falling off it again (when I managed to get into the damn level) and all I can hear is
    "I did this first time, you know"

    "Yeah well done. Let's see you do the next bit with your joypad up your arse"

    I'm coming round to otto's point of view re; the non-backpack levels. They're getting harder. That spinny block one on the harbour level..... AAAAAAAAAAGH! Just did it before I tore the last of my hair out.

  • BartonFink #297 10 years ago

    Sorry but I haven't, unfortunately, got a clue wtf you are talking about.

    /Must resist urge to buy Game Cube
    /me sobs wanna Game Cube now, adopts petulant teenager pose.

    otto - how did you get around the missus in the end?

  • Fozzie_bear #298 10 years ago

    Sorry BF - referring to my missus' post further up boasting about finishing the sand bird level one her first go. I've had a gutful of hearing about it now I'm confronted with more boasting here!

  • BartonFink #299 10 years ago

    Fozzy - Trying to get around the misus to get a GameCube for crimbo ... interesting maybe I can come at it from that angle. She's always complaining about the games I buy the last one she was into was Worms Armagedon on the DC. Maybe I can convince her she will love this. She has already said the add on TV looks cool.
    So does the missus usually bitch slap you when it comes to games? :)

  • Khab #300 10 years ago

    Those puzzle missions are naughty. I was stuck on three(!) of them simultaneously. A mate and I sat down, and two hours later we'd beaten ONE of them. I swear... loudly.

    Funny thing is, it never feels like it's the game's or even the controls' fault you miss a jump or something - it's always 'Arghh no how could I do THAT, I should've done it like THIS, oh no, ok then, like THIS...' etc. And I keep coming back for more. :)

  • BartonFink #301 10 years ago

    @(0)--Razz--> - ROFL

    Khab - please stop yer killin me - memories of Mario64 etc flooding back .... grrr wanna GameCube just to play this. Must resist. :(

  • BartonFink #302 10 years ago

    LOL - cheers man.
    Cheque in post eh?

  • Blerk #303 10 years ago

    GBA outsold PS2 in Jap this or last or whatever week

    Indeed, and for one reason only it appears. Seems the Japanese were far, far, far more excited about Yoshi's Island on the GBA than they were about Super Mario Sunshine... What does that tell you about Nintendo's direction? They need to do a new 2D Mario game instead of all this three-dee nonsense. :-)

  • UncleLou #304 10 years ago

    Btw, does anyone know when Super Monkey Ball for the GBA will be out? I ams till so tempted to buy a GBA, but with the recent rumors of an improved version I guess I'll wait some more.

  • otto #305 10 years ago

    otto - how did you get around the missus in the end?

    I figured it would be easier to get forgiveness rather than permission, so I went and bought the damn thing and hunkered down to survive the ensuing storm of abuse. :) The funny thing is, she got so furious with me for buying it (also the GBA), she has no clue that I've spent at least three times as much since on software. Heh.

    I wish there was some way you could opt out of the platform levels on SMS. I love hunting for blue coins, carefully hidden shines, and the boss fights, but I've run aground now. I simply can't get past the platform levels, and I don't have the patience to try twenty times in a row. I'm now stuck at the Bianco Hills third level, Gelato Beach first level and that stupid squid race at the Harbour - can't win that either! Gah! My sole avenue for progress atm is getting Mech-Bowser. I'll have another go at that tonight... And I haven't even got to a red coin level yet - lol!

  • brutal #306 10 years ago

    there is a pool of water in the middle of the level... a guy sitting there tells you its a "great place to cool off"

    ping them into there....

  • BartonFink #307 10 years ago

    I figured it would be easier to get forgiveness rather than permission, so I went and bought the damn thing and hunkered down to survive the ensuing storm of abuse. :) The funny thing is, she got so furious with me for buying it (also the GBA), she has no clue that I've spent at least three times as much since on software. Heh. Did the same thing with xbox don't think I will get away with again though (still suffering abuse). Another tactic is called for methinks.

  • otto #308 10 years ago

    Barton, the nipper's old enough now to hold a Wavebird right? Buy it for him. If she gets mad, tell her to discuss it with him. ;)

  • Alastair #309 10 years ago

    'she has no clue that I've spent at least three times as much since on software. Heh'

    The technique I use to avoid wrath is to make a point of saying that you are trading some games in and thus saving money. I traded in Agent Under Fire and SSX Tricky for SMS and Doshin the Giant at the weekend. And made the point of saying that 'cos I'd traded in two games, I got a new one free. Seemed to do the trick!
    Oh, and Otto, I reckon Doshin might be your cup of tea.

  • BartonFink #310 10 years ago

    @otto Yup nearly 20mths old now - xbox controller is a bit big for him, loves the analogue sticks he finds them rather tasty.

    I think I might just try that though... not sure how far I will get though :) I think I will put it down to education.

    Current Mario add seems to be having a positive effect too.
    Edited by BartonFink at 17/10/02 @ 10:51

  • otto #311 10 years ago

    I wish they did trade-ins here. :(

  • otto #312 10 years ago

    Barton, well there you go then! He's far too small to hold an xbox controller, you *have* to buy him a Cube, it's the responsible thing to do as a parent.

  • BartonFink #313 10 years ago

    LOL - He does have big hands though...
    Not sure that will work with the missus
    /grumble flippin budgets, must find money tree

  • Ciaran #314 10 years ago

    a new 2D Mario game

    I've thought about that too, it should be possible. On the GBA, but also on Gamecube. Just look at the latest Klonoa game on PS2 (Lunatea's Veil or somesuch?), which basically was 2D gameplay in a lush, detailed 3D world. I'm sure Nintendo could pull off something like that with even more umph.


    edit: Oh, and I beat the sandbird level! Getting on high block on the wing finally did it. *tadatada tada* Woohoo! :-)
    Edited by Ciaran at 17/10/02 @ 13:31

  • brutal #315 10 years ago

    no probs mate

  • Fozzie_bear #316 10 years ago

    that stupid squid race at the Harbour

    Otto - that one had me stumped until I relaised that you accelerate if you push forward on the stick -and you can cut some of the corners. Not too bad once you get the hang of it. Remember you can jump too in case you need to avoid any boxes at the last sec.

    Fozzy - Trying to get around the misus to get a GameCube for crimbo ... interesting maybe I can come at it from that angle. She's always complaining about the games I buy

    I got moaned at for getting yet another console but the weekend we got it i never got near it - she discovered Luigi's Mansion and that was it! Can't remember the last time she even bothered trying a PS2 game - the odd pc game here and there but GC games just seem more accessible to people who like the odd game now and then.


    So does the missus usually bitch slap you when it comes to games? :)

    Not usually :)

    We're about even on Mario Party - but on SMS she's still way ahead of me! I struggle to find one or two shines - she plays for an hour and has another three or four. AND WON'T TELL ME HOW! AAAAAAGH!
    Edited by Fozzie_bear at 19/10/02 @ 12:27

  • otto #317 10 years ago

    that one had me stumped until I relaised that you accelerate if you push forward on the stick -and you can cut some of the corners.

    Unfortunately I realised this pretty early on and *still* can't bloody do it. The pink one's fastest I think, but not manoeuvrable, the green one's too slow, and the yellow one's both. :p

  • #318 10 years ago

    "The pink one's fastest I think, but not manoeuvrable, the green one's too slow, and the yellow one's both. :p"

    Yeh, I noticed that too,

  • otto #319 10 years ago

    Fozzie, am I right in thinking you've taken this test? Seems I'm Kermit.

  • sam_spade #320 10 years ago

    Well, well. I turned out to be the Swedish Chef.

  • otto #321 10 years ago

    bork bork bork!

  • #322 10 years ago

    Guess who I am...

    One.. Two... Three... ghahahahahha.... four... five... six.... MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • sam_spade #323 10 years ago

    I feend thet zee pletffurm lefels oon Sooper Mereeu Soonsheene-a ere-a dreefing me-a crezy.


    Courtesy of the <A href="http://www.twinpines.nl/chef/English/language.htm" target=_new>ENCHEFENIZER</a>
    Edited by sam_spade at 19/10/02 @ 12:24

  • Fozzie_bear #324 10 years ago

    Fozzie, am I right in thinking you've taken this test? Seems I'm Kermit.

    Me too. Blimey. To be honest I always considered myself to be more like Statler or Waldorf - the miserable old blokes in the box...

    The Swedish Chef - reminds me of a story in When Saturday Comes a few years back after Scotland had played Sweden. On this bus full of Scotland fans there was a middle aged Swedish couple keeping their heads down. Most of the Scots were fine but there was a couple of drunken Inverness Caley fans who spent the entire journey singing obscene songs about every other Scottish club. Realising there were some Swedes on board they went quiet - murmured for a few seconds as they tried to come up with an anti-Swedish anthem - and then started singing,
    "We all agree.. that the chef from the muppets is a wanker".

    aagh! even edit spellings are awful!
    Edited by Fozzie_bear at 19/10/02 @ 16:46

  • otto #325 10 years ago

    LOL quality story

  • Fozzie's_bird #326 10 years ago

    So does the missus usually bitch slap you when it comes to games?

    On the majority of games i do. I try and teach him how its done :D. I don't think hes ever beaten me on the arcade sega rally, but then what can you expect from Volvo owners?
    \\cringes waiting for volvo owner backlash\\

    Apparently i'm the muppet gonzo, but foz reckons i'm like sal the monkey.

  • otto #327 10 years ago

    but then what can you expect from Volvo owners?

    It's a fair point, I own a Volvo and I really really suck at games

  • Fozzie_bear #328 10 years ago

    Right - this'll get on yer tits. Anyone played the backpack-less level in the shell in Noki Bay? Well, unbelievable as it may seem I've just watched the old munter compltete that first go! No lives lost! Lucky old ratbag.

  • sam_spade #329 10 years ago

    Well, unbelievable as it may seem I've just watched the old munter compltete that first go! No lives lost! Lucky old ratbag.

    There's sumthin funny about your bird. And I don't like it.

    (just wasted ten lives on that particular level)

  • Azule #330 10 years ago

    Depressingly I am Scooter :( . But being an undecisive person I had to change a few things and I ended up being Rowlf :) .

  • Fozzie_bear #331 10 years ago

    Funnily enough my little sister looks just like Rowlf. I mean exactly like him. It's uncanny, it really is.

  • Fozzie's_bird #332 10 years ago

    There's sumthin funny about your bird.

    That's me...

    Funny sense of humour, funny taste of men, ... and funny in the head. Ho hum. :)

    being an undecisive person
    I used to be indecisive, now i'm not so sure... ok, i might revise that funny sense of humour bit.

  • Khab #333 10 years ago

    Would you people please let this thread die?

  • otto #334 10 years ago

    Hell no we're having fun :p

    ;)
    Edited by otto at 20/10/02 @ 20:05

  • FWB #335 10 years ago

    Ok, to keep things going, two quick questions regarding SMS:

    1) Are blue coins useful for anything other than handing them over for Shines?

    2) How many times can you get 100 coins in each area to obtain a Shine? Is it once per level (some of the of the early levels don't seem to have enough coins)?

  • Pirotic #336 10 years ago

    they have coins hidden all over the place, try spraying the wanted posters for example - if your playing this game in a rush you'd easily miss such things.

  • FWB #337 10 years ago

    I know the coins are hidden, I just wanted to know if the blues ones serve multiplae purposes (I'm holding onto them at the moment in incase something pops up) and how many times per level you can use 100 coins to get a Shine.

  • [Alt][F4] #338 10 years ago

    As far as I can tell, blue ones are just to trade them for extra shines. And you can collect only 1 shine from collecting 100 gold coins per every "world".

  • FWB #339 10 years ago

    Cheers for the info. My first mario game (I briefly played some onf the SNES ones, but never tried out the N64 version) and it is quite kick-arse. Not had this much fun with a platform since Commander Keen.
    Edited by FWB at 21/10/02 @ 08:25

  • otto #340 10 years ago

    I did both squid race levels on the first try.

    Both?? You mean there's another one??

    God now I'm depressed...

  • brutal #341 10 years ago

    finshed the game, 80 shines all story shines collected...

    cant be bothered to do any more

    ho hum back to pikmin till vice city comes out...

  • jaa #342 10 years ago

    The first one is not that hard, otto. I used the yellow squid, without jumping once (right then left on the revolving blocks) and cutting the final corners slightly. The second one I don't know - I'm not there yet.

  • otto #343 10 years ago

    Sorry jaa, I don't know what's wrong with me, I must have tried it at least twenty times (yes mostly with the yellow one) and I'm always a good three or four seconds out. Full acceleration all the way, cutting corners, no braking. Incredibly frustrating.

    edit - maybe I should try playing it at 50hz... ;)
    Edited by otto at 21/10/02 @ 12:01

  • brutal #344 10 years ago

    did that 1st time, 50hz - dont remember which one - about 4 seconds under if i remember correctly

  • jaa #345 10 years ago

    I don't know what's wrong with me

    You're an eurocrat...? :p

    After reading your post I thought: "Boy, two weeks away and nobody remembers the details anymore". I didn't use to have a Cube, remember? I was expecting a "Oh, so you finally gave up" kind of answer. But I didn't. Gift. From wife. Bless her.

  • Fozzie's_bird #346 10 years ago

    finshed the game, 80 shines all story shines collected...

    Wheres the fun in that? You're missing 1/3 of the game. Sounds very linear. I enjoy completing the levels to the full and exploring areas, finding secrets as i go on. I intend to get as close to the 120 coins as poss.

  • #347 10 years ago

    " I intend to get as close to the 120 coins as poss"

    Thats just kerrraazzziieee!!! I have the occansional game on this... I'm lucky if I get 30... :(

  • otto #348 10 years ago

    Gift. From wife. Bless her.

    Well I suppose I should congratulate you if I weren't cross with you for being nasty to me. :p

    Ah well, congrats. Sounds like you've got a good 'un there.

  • #349 10 years ago

    Off topic but...

    Santa Claus has died

    :'(

  • gizmo #350 9 years ago

    Tried to play this again last night after dusting off the cube and all I can say is, after biting the sticks off my controller is;

    RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH WHOEVER INVENTED THE CAMERA SYSTEM ON THIS GAME SHOULD BE SHOT

    RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH WHOEVER INVENTED THE CAMERA SYSTEM ON THIS GAME SHOULD BE SHOT

    RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH WHOEVER INVENTED THE CAMERA SYSTEM ON THIS GAME SHOULD BE SHOT

    RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH WHOEVER INVENTED THE CAMERA SYSTEM ON THIS GAME SHOULD BE SHOT

    RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH WHOEVER INVENTED THE CAMERA SYSTEM ON THIS GAME SHOULD BE SHOT

  • Mike_Hunt #351 8 years ago

    Ah. The ill-informed. You've got to love them!
    Tee-hee

    [MH]

  • Stevas mkII #352 8 years ago

    From henceforth (I love that word - it's a damn shame it ain't used much), you, the amusingly named Mike of Hunt, shall forever be tasked with the regular and frequent exhuming of this thread - which shall forever warn sad wotsname tossers of the dangers of quoting anything off of the TransmoWeb.
    Oh, and if you could point me towards any other equally amusing threads I'd be much obliged. Bored, you see.

  • lost_soul #353 8 years ago

    The halo and Mafia review threads are pretty entertaining.

    And the Black and White one.