Gears of War has 'zero innovation', says EA exec News

I like Alain Tascan! :D

Truly, I'm I first.
And truly is this a shock, from all the companies in the world.

Edit: DAMN YOU!!!

Thats right EA, you tell em how to make great games! ;)

I really want to play GoW, just to see if this is all true

Sorry... wait... an EA exec dared to talk about innovation?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH..... COUGH..... HAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... CHOKE... HAHA.... DEAD

Singing your praises from EA now?

Lol, i guess they could spot a lack of innovation from a while away, because black was really original :|

One other thing...

"And if she's smart enough, that's the gameplay."

I'm dying to know how she gets marked on innovation. =D

>"Myself, I prefer something more creative," Tascan concluded."

More rounds of need for speed carbon? How's about burnout 1546? Or FIFA 007? Or madden: Milk me edition 2145? Where do I stop?

How's about you lead the way Tascan? Lead your shitty company. All we've got from you claptrap for the past how many years? (excluding fight night). You have oabsolutely NO INNOVATION whatsoever. Yet you talk?
Face it, it's only because EA wished they had a game to give them the money this chrimbo.

GOW, does not thing new, it doesn't need to. What it does is optimal shooting mechanics, from controls, to AI, to atleast a rarely used version of shooting (using over is rarely used as the main mechanics of shooting games), fantastic graphics (EA can't even get last-gen games to work on the 360 without framerate chugging), a grat multiplayer, and all out fun.

And I'm sure EG are happy about this recognition. Expect to see more "harsher" ratings on "certain" games (as in hyped games).
WHere were you alain, when EG where ripping EA games to shreds in reivews? And isn't EA the only company to more or less say they don't focus on innovation, but on bringing out "what works" annually?

This is a horrible article, guys. Truly horrible. You really do love yourselves, don't you?

*shakes head*

I have to say, that is rich coming from an EA exec. Perhaps he should look at his own company. This is the equivalent of ITV saying, "there are too many celebrity-based programmes on BBC".

hahaha EA saying a game is not innovative. the ironies are endless

"Absolutely, yes. You guys were one of the only people who had the guts to say it."

Not for Oblivion, you didn't.

I agree that this article is a bit cringe-worthy and very "aren't we brilliant?" but considering this statement comes from the pioneers of non-innovation EA themselves it's more than a little hypocritical and hard to take seriously!!! LOL

Of course, EG are so fantastic that they decided to only review half of the game instead of waiting until they'd played the multiplayer before posting their verdict. ;)

Darren: It was stated clearly in the review that it was a single player review and a multiplayer review would follow on when the code became available/playable and enough time had been spent on it. No other publication did this. How that can be regarded us as doing the wrong thing I don't know.

Well, EA has brought so much innovation to the Bond franchise, that yes, Goldeneye 007 (1996?) is still better than anything they created with the license.

EA also brought innovation in the form of...upcoming developer takeovers!

Edit: THEY ARE TOSSERS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!

Edit (2): He's called Alain? He must be serious...he's acquired an extra vowel for his name.

Bodybuilder: To be fair though you are excluding titles like Battlefield 2 (hugely popular for the last year), Spore (one of the most anticipated titles of all time - and completely original), Burnout5 (the latest in a fantastic series of games) and C+C3 (who knows, but could be great). I know some of those are sequels but then again GoW will have a sequel and Halo had a couple. I'm not an EA fanboy, I am just as cynical as everyone about their annual updates to games, but they also produce a lot of good games these days too. Any company would be stupid not to make annual updates to these games as it's just part of business, but they are improving by producing new games too.

I like an EA exec.

Im sure rauper saw this backlash coming a mile off :)

>"How that can be regarded us as doing the wrong thing I don't know."

Or you culd have just waited. After all, the game isn't out yet in EUROpe.

Either way, for you guys to feel proud of this article is disgraceful IMO.
I personally wouldn't be proud that the praise I'm getting is from an EA exec. That's like Hitler giving someone praise on thier act of kindness.

EA make me laugh honestly the title should 'EA has zero innovation'. What do Eurogamer want? a blue peter badge for giving the game a lower score then most sites? this is EA that you guys are proud to say liked your review. Pfft...at least wait until you can try the game over LIVE.

@ rauper.

Honestly, at any other time your argument may have been valid (doubt it though, especially for the fact that half of those games you mentioned aren't even out yet). But the fact that you choose to defend EA (let's not even get into the way they treat thier staff) at a time when they've just given you a pat on the bum doesn't help your cause.

Oh and burnout 5 is not a good thing. 1 2 & possibly 3, yeah, but now we're all faced with a new burnout every year.

Apologies if I have said things out of terms (such as the whole hitler thing). It's out of my character. But I honestly find this article aweful. I personally say get rid of it before the sun shines, otherwise the afternoon is gonna be dreadfull.

I don't think you understand just how bad this article is. I mean, SERIOUSLY.

SERIOUSLY. This will only further discredit the (what I once thought was undiscreditable) site.

what like EAs jamming with innovation and exciting games, like need 4 speed carbon, tiger woods list goes on yaaawwn. At least gears of war is exciting and fun to play sounds like ea is getting jealous because people are beginning to realise the ea games are usually 90 percent of time games to avoid as they are usually just an update of an old game, oh yeah and fifa 07 how rubbish.

We could have waited but then we would have had people complain the review was "late". Reviewing the two parts of the game separately has been done before and it was made clear in the review.

BTW I think comparing someone who works to EA to Hitler is not really on. I probably don't need to tell you how what they do/have done is very different.

The world is about to implode with irony.

EA complaining about lack of innovation in the video game industry. Wow.

Just, well, wow.

Classic... Thank god I'm not allergic to irony.

I'm not really commenting on this article specifically (I just saw it when I got in from t'pub) and how publishers/developers treat their staff is a separate argument too... I just thought it would be fun to stick up for the fact that we reviewed a game that we believed was 8/10 and therefore gave 8/10... I personally have been amused that this has been regarded as "biased" and "corrupt" when it is really nothing of the kind.

It is time for bed, but I look forward to the comments that follow this in the morning :)

Haha.

I believe your readership is going to call you Arrogant soon.

I find that very funny. Why do they keep coming here?

I actually think it's not arrogance, but when thousands of people call you w**kers you have to shrug it off to a certain extent!

Do my eyes deceive or is someone in ea commenting on lack of innovation? People in glass houses should throw stones and all the other cliches that go along with this.

Ahhhhh the sweet irony, the black voodoo, the wet jigsaw puzzle....

Personally I thought EGs review of GOW was very fair and have no arguments with the 8/10. After all, I ain't played it yet but I shall pick it up anyway when it releases. For me the review was pretty positive overall.

But this story is just, um, wierd... How an EA exec can have the unmitigated gall to criticise another developers product for "lack of innovation" is completely beyond me. EA! I mean, come on!

I see a train-wreck coming.

"I actually think it's not arrogance, but when thousands of people call you w**kers you have to shrug it off to a certain extent!"

Reminds me of high school... :p

Kidding, but I think if I was a Sony or EA exec lately I'd probably be crying myself to sleep. Then again at least I'd be crying myself to sleep in my bundles of cash!

Now there's a first EA talking about game innovation. :P

Exactly, the story is immensely funny.

Exactly, the story is immensely funny.

Yep, I laughed until I stopped. :-)

This shit just writes itself.

BUY A 360.

Anyone consider Gears the best game they ever played? The way it's going it will be rated that way.

I don't know what you lot are complaining about. Clearly Alain believes he should "Challenge Everything".

One thing that is making my head hurt is that EA is supporting the Wii which is supposed to be a good thing. The industry's behemoth publisher, the one with zero ideas and never-ending sequels is going to help make Reggie's industry-saving console a massive success.

I just don't get it.

Vin, this is a gaming site, people will undoubtedly be able to mke their own minds up whether or not they want a 360.

This is in fact highly unusual and ironic coming from an EA guy, and infinitely funny, not that I neccessarily disagree, but still, very funny.

Look at it this way; if there's one person who should be an expert in identifying innovation free, high production value wastes of opportunity, it's an EA Exec. Just because it's hypocrisy and his company is one of the worst offenders, doesn't mean he's wrong.

But Rauper, you realise you're a marked man now. You've been spotted as able to identify and speak out against the mob. You can just see him at his desk in Schloss EA hitting the large red Independant Thought Alarm button. The EA Men In Black will be round to EG towers to take you away quick sharp.

No way EG is ever going to get to review advance copies of EA games ever again!

We should send some mirrors to EA.

Joke of the month, hahahahahahah.
Should be a new category in the golden joystick awards, or any game awards.
The MOST FUNNY/RIDICULOUS MANAGER AWARD goes to...

Even if he is right, in his position he should really shut up and find a new job/company. Well at least it made me ROFL, hahahaha.

This post is a joke.

The sheer arrogance seeps from every pore of this and many other pages, it's amazing.

AHAUAHUAHAUAHAUAHAUA

Someone should let the moron from EA know that the graphical upgrade to Doom 1 scored a 9/10 at Eurogamer.

AHAUAHAUAHAUAHAUAHUA

I hardly think that holding up a competitor's view of a game as proof that the EG "emperor's new clothes" review of GoW is correct is the best way to go about reassuring people...

"I don't know what you lot are complaining about. Clearly Alain believes he should "Challenge Everything"."

Aye, I only wish that were true in the department he accuses Epic of failing on, the irony is amazing :D

Eurogamer are indeed innovative journalist. But YA STILL NOT FUNNY!
also who gave halo 8/10 i wonder

Wow.

Possibly the most pathetic article you've ever put out, EG. I'm a long term, long-standing member of the EG community and I don't think I've seen such an arrogant, pointless piece of journalism in a long time.

WOW! If EA is hated enough by gamers for their consistent string of gimped Next Gen games....

He hasn't even PLAYED IT and he say's the only reviews that got it right gave low scores???? WTF! LOL!

HE SAID, "I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY IT...". Didn't anybody else notice that??????

"Why are people loving it so much? It's like added production value, incredible cutscenes and the best ever graphics ever. I'm sure it's going to be a great success, I can't wait to play it, but let's face that graphics are still number one," Tascan continued

He is a complete dope.

*agrees with foreverafternothing*

rauper: We could have waited but then we would have had people complain the review was "late". Reviewing the two parts of the game separately has been done before and it was made clear in the review.

I don't think Eurogamer should have handled the review of such a highly anticipated game as GoW. It almost seems like Eurogamer purposely wanted to give GoW a lower score just to seem controversial in respect to the American sites. Why couldn't EG just have waited till the game released in Europe? It would have made more sense to give a complete review to coincide with the European release, rather than an incomplete review to coincide with the American release. Why would anyone think the review was late anyway? This is a European site not American. If you had released the review on the 17 the only people who could have perceived the review as late would be non-European visitors to this site and why would that really matter? Is it that you at EG didn't want to feel left out of all the attention the American sites were receiving on the 7th?

The Bodybuilder - ">"How that can be regarded us as doing the wrong thing I don't know."

Or you culd have just waited. After all, the game isn't out yet in EUROpe."

from the review -

Inevitably the multiplayer component of Gears of War is big news, but it's important to stress that until boxed copies arrive, we're limited to testing the offline portion of the game. When that time comes (expected to be next week) we will put that side of the game into its proper context and provide an update to this review to take all of that into account. In the meantime, be sure to check out our in-depth hands-on with all three multiplayer modes here.

If you know it's "big news", why would you knowingly leave such an important aspect of the game out of the review of a game as big as GoW? It's pretty obvious that the only reason was to intentionally give GoW a lower score than it would have received had you guys just waited.. It's obvious from the preview of GoW multiplayer that it would have weighted heavily in the final review of the game.

"Generally, the impression of the game is that it is not one of great innovation, but one in which the features are implemented with brilliant cohesion."

Wow, its one developer from EA's Montreal studio and you just all jump on him and claim his opinion is worthless?

He does not represent the whole of Electronic Arts. He's just the general manager of one studio.