Big games missing from PSP to Vita UMD Passport list
No Monster Hunter, no MGS Peace Walker.
There are big names missing from the list of PSP games that can be downloaded for Vita at a discounted price.
Among them, Monster Hunter and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker.
The entire Capcom, Konami, Square Enix and Namco Bandai catalogues are missing.
As it stands, 262 PSP games support the UMD Passport system. This list is in Japanese, and Google's translation service not accurate enough for us to reproduce it here.
While 262 sounds like a lot, Siliconera pointed out that there are 606 PSP games currently available digitally from the Japanese PlayStation Store.
The UMD Passport system links owned PSP games with PSN accounts, then makes the games available to download for between £4 and £12 - based on official Japanese pricing.
The Japanese PS Vita launch of 17th December is still weeks away. That Capcom et al should stay absent from the UMD Passport list would indeed be a shock. As shocking as those "discount" prices, you could say.
There's no Vita Monster Hunter game announced. MH4 is currently a 3DS exclusive.
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I ALREADY OWN THEM. THEY SHOULD BE FREE.
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It just seems as though its those 4 publishers are either late to the game or would rather users have to buy the game again at full price
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Its not exactly like Sony have come over to your house and smashed your UMDs, Its an entirely new platform. Maybe its just me but after seeing that launch lineup I have no great desire to play any PSP games on the Vita
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If they can uniquely identify the disc then surely i can prove i own it, so why should i have to pay for the same thing again.
As StolenGlory said "I ALREADY OWN THEM. THEY SHOULD BE FREE."
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Do you demand from MS they give you all the games they release on GoD for free when you have the disk version?
There are bandwidth costs associated with the digital version, so no they shouldn't be free, possibly a little cheaper, but how many games do you actually plan on upgrading?
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what i do think is a shame though is that there not concentrating on getting as much of the PSP back catalogue online and straight up lowering the price point to no higher than 10.00 a game
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This is true.
Mind you if I was a marketing person (I'm not but I did marry one so I might have caught something) who was trying to sell what is a rather expensive (but lovely) bit of kit in recession times at a pretty poor time of the year I'd probably weight up the good PR allowing people to freely transfer at least some of the games they'd bought in the past for the previous model as a gesture of goodwill over the chance to make some extra bucks off them.
Sweeten the deal, Sony. Give people "2 free goes" or something so they can port their absolute favourite game across.
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We can't copy and paste the list - we would actually have to type some of them out to correct them, but we can't be bothered.
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Either way if I had a Vita I'd be more interested in playing new games rather than forking out again for some old ones. As some have pointed out sometimes you can get the games cheaper on the Store than what they're charging to convert them...
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It just seems like a lengthy and frustrating process to cater for all, and I certainly don't have much faith in PSN providing this service. But hey, they may suprise me.
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Plus http://andriasang.com/comyxo/
"While companies like Square Enix, Falcom, Capcom, Konami and Sega haven't announced titles, they are on board with the program, Sony says."
So it shouldn't be surprising, it must be issues of finalising and optimising. They're not going to say no to extra money since the process doesn't sound too expensive, probably just looking at which ones are worth it quickly.
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I think gamers are spoiled nowadays in regards to backwards compatibility, it only very rarely happened in the past.
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"Do you demand from MS they give you all the games they release on GoD for free when you have the disk version?"
Nope, because there is actually a relatively sizeable chunk of original disc-based Xbox titles that will work on the 360. With the Vita there is no such option, due to the lack of the UMD drive.
So kinda different.
"There are bandwidth costs associated with the digital version, so no they shouldn't be free, possibly a little cheaper, but how many games do you actually plan on upgrading?"
Good point. Ironically, the ones I am interesting in upgrading either don't exist on the service (Kingdom Hearts) or would be cheaper to re-buy seperately (Crisis Core) than pay such retarded fees.
And also - Bandwidth Costs? Which ones? These games are already available on the service for the most part and have been for a while now.
They haven't seen any need to monetise it before now.
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Too right! And I've already bought the Star Wars movies on VHS once AND paid to see them at the cinema, I want the blu-rays for nothing, nothing do you hear me!!!
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Yeah, brilliant.
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TopKatts analogy may be a little extreme, but its essentially the same thing. Consumer buys product on one device a certain format, consumer then gets another device with a new format and wants the product on that device/format. Like I said before I personally have no interest but a month after launch I doubt anyone will care
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Perish the thought that you have a Japanese-speaking employee or contributor when two of your three primary news sources originate in Japan =)
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There is clearly a sense of entitlement by some people that you should get the digital version of a disk game for free, even tho no company has ever offered this in the past, even when format has changed, Ninty didnt give me all my NES, SNES, and N64 games for free download on my wii, they didnt even offer me an upgrade discount.
So what Sony is offering is a pretty good option, for those that still want to play some of there PSP games on the Vita, i doubt ill use it tho, as ill be using my Vita to play Vita games.
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Vita is a new console, a better one, similar to PS3 which played certain PS2 games - not all... and nobody bought a PS3 to play PS2 games - did they?! (I hope not!)
If you want to play PSP games - keep your PSP - and enjoy them on that... to think that you'll be able to play every PSP game on Vita, even if not released digitally and the fact it's on a different format is just crazy... and isn't a 'right' like some people think it is...
The Vita is going to be AMAZING - adding PSP functionality is just a bonus...
I for one can't wait and I suspect many of the PSP classics will be getting an extreme makeover anyway, so just enjoy it for what it is...
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Actually it's your sense of entitlement that's silly. If you've paid for the games originally then of course you owns those games. No-one is forcing you to get rid your PSP, you can keep the device and the games as long as you want. But you expect to be able to play those same games on the next generations devices totally free of charge? Or is it just the next generation? Why stop there? Should you be able to get free version of all the PSP games you own for every handheld Sony release in future?
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Also dont remember Sony saying back compat was essential as if it was then device would have UMD drive
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If you want to play old titles, break out your psp.
If you want to complain: no soup for you!
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Not sure £12 meets the term 'reasonable'...
My cynical hat also makes me think that some of the top games may be off the list because they'll soon be sold as downloads to anyone who wants them.
I think the big three are starting to realise that there's more money to be made by re-selling old games, remaking them or selling a next gen sequel than allowing people to play their old versions for free.
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And bitching like an entitled internet baby will not help.
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Honestly, PSP owners should be grateful that Sony has so generously given them an oportunity to buy all of their stuff back.
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And if you really are that bothered, when this sucker gets hacked you will be able to port all your games across (including Capcom, Konami and any other random title you can think of!) just like the PSone emulator on the PSP!
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I started buying digital a while back to avoid this sort of thing.
Edit: Oh, I was beaten to it six or seven times. May as well leave it to balance out the opinions.
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Secondly, no-one is forcing anyone to buy anything.
If Vita had a UMD drive I could understand the fuss, but that's not the case. Personally I doubt I'll be buying any of my PSP games again as I have a PSP to play them on.
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A) cannot bung in UMD of the PSP games
B) asked to buy again in full OR a surcharge to the companies u already supported first time around?
C) might as well discard full compatibility and just run enhanced emulations of digital PSP for the price?!
Think on this, consider people who NEVER owned PSP buying Vita, seem to be much more worthwhile as could buy the best of PSP (those that are available digitally) and Vita titles for an one time cost.
As PSP owners who supported Sony in difficult portable period, the only sensible option seem to keep PSP for the UMD games and forget the idea of transferring games, just play damn Vita games on the Vita!
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The N64 couldn't play SNES games, nobody cared.
The GameCube couldn't play N64 games, nobody cared.
If the Vita used UMD's and didn't play PSP games then I could see why folks are getting annoyed, but it uses an entirely different format. The only console that I can think of that could play legacy formats without an adaptor were the GameBoy Advanced and the DS/DS Lite (and of course the PS2, 360 and PS3, but the discs were at least the same size and used similar tech). A lot of the cost of the hardware and R&D for the Vita is being subsidised via software purchases, and personally I'd rather have a cheaper Vita over the convenience of not having to lug a PSP around just to be able to play previous gen games.
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And if someone thinks this example is extreme and is not valid, well, it's more valid than any other. At least here I'm talking about the same product, the same disc, the same functionality, and it will only work on a PS3.
But if you have an UMD game... and you want the digital version for free, think about it, it's not the same product, it's in a different format, and not only it will work on a PSP console, but on a Vita as well.
Portal 2 PS3 lets you download to your PC the same game for free. But that's a BONUS, it's not a consumer right.
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Come on guys, get over it. This device is beautifull, dont moan about a few games you are not gonne play anyway.