Ono: all Street Fighter X Tekken updates will be DLC

By Fred Dutton Published 14 November, 2011

Future disc-based expansion ruled out.

Any expansions to forthcoming crossover brawler Street Fighter X Tekken will be delivered as DLC rather than as a full disc-based release, according to Capcom producer Yoshinori Ono.

Speaking in an interview with Gematsu, Ono explained that if Capcom does decide to add additional fighters or game modes post-launch, they'll do so digitally, as was the case with Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition.

"If we decide to create a new version of the game, we will go with the Street Fighter IV series route, by providing online update patches for the game," he explained, when asked if he's concerned that prospective purchasers might choose to wait for a Super Street Fighter X Tekken release further down the road.

"So I would say that you don't really need to worry about a new version of the game coming out. If we choose to update the game, it will be done in the same fashion as Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition."

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Comments (34) Latest comment 6 months ago

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  • FuzzyDuck #1 6 months ago

    He's basically confirmed that there will be new characters down the line 5 months before the game is out.

    Preorder is cancelled on this and i'm straight up done with Capcom, eye gouging buggers that they are.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #2 6 months ago

    @FuzzyDuck: Seriously? You find it surprising that a current-gen game will get DLC? It's not surprising that a fighting game will get a rather huge update a few months after release, it's not just Capcom doing it. At least this time they make it clear from the start which was what people criticized about SFIV or MvC3.

    This is not a bad thing you know.

  • Ryze #3 6 months ago

    Don't believe you :p

    But it looks like a fantastic game. Shame I wont be taking the plunge.

  • NuY #4 6 months ago

    In related news, renowned gaming head honcho Nancy Shevell confirms that Soul Calibur VI will have John Lennon and Ringo Starr as unlockable characters.

    Rumours that players will need to board a yellow submarine to gain the unlocks are reportedly unfounded.

  • Paulie_P #5 6 months ago

    Lies, all lies!

  • telboy007 #6 6 months ago

    Paying for patches? (that's how it reads to me)

  • Mister-Wario #7 6 months ago

    ¬_¬

  • superbeast2010 #8 6 months ago

    Post deleted at 10:57:39 01-02-2012

  • Yeoung #9 6 months ago

    That's surprising, it's usually hard to hear fan backlash when you've got your head stuck so far in the sand you're hearing chinese people.

    Honestly after the SF debacle, The MvC travesty and the upcoming cash-in extravaganca otherwise known as the DMC collection, they really should find a way to warm up to their estranged fans in another way than to simply state "Okay, yeah.. we're gonna stop screwing you guys over, we cool?"

  • Bander #10 6 months ago

    Couldn't Capcom start off with one game, say Street Fighter IV, then add Super DLC, vs. Marvel DLC, vs. Tekken DLC, and so on... Until you have an almighty Ultra Hyper Marvel vs. Tatsunoko vs. Tekken vs. SNK vs. other Capcom franchises vs. Sony and Microsoft exclusives vs. Street Fighter 4.10.82 Gold XXX Still Some Ways to Go Edition, all from one disc?

    It's not as if the engine or controls ever noticeably change. Half the characters are going to fight like Ryu anyway. Might have to replace the character select screen with a search facility though.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #11 6 months ago

    It's not as if the engine or controls ever noticeably change. Half the characters are going to fight like Ryu anyway.

    You never really played any of the SF games for more than two hours, did you?

  • bad09 #12 6 months ago

    On one side it's good they confirm up front they are not gonna release another one 9 months later but on the other it sounds like they've already planning to rape the arses of the fans just not wih a completely seperate edition.

  • andrewsqual #13 6 months ago

    @Der_tolle_Emil What are you talking about? Tekken 6 had around 43 characters and never received DLC. It is business as usual, FOR CRAPCOM but don't try and dirty everybody's name. Ono is awesome though he was just the messenger here.

  • Ironic_War_Criminal #14 6 months ago

    @andrewsqual Tekken 6 had around 43 characters

    One being a dummy character that fights with a random fighting style, two are palate swaps (Kuma/Panda, Eddy/Christie) and the majority of characters still using the same animation from Tekken 4/5 (Tekken 3 in some cases).

    While Tekken 6 is packed with content, it's not exactly what you want to be pointing to as an example of a fighting game featuring new content.

  • kickerconspiracy #15 6 months ago

    Crapcom really are the epitome of mercenary capitalism.

    They can fuck right off.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #16 6 months ago

    Probably because everybody stopped playing Tekken :p Nah seriously though, I never said every publisher does that, but I wasn't very clear either, my fault.

    Anyway, additional characters are not that uncommon and I actually welcome that. This is what I expected DLC to be like. Not just costumes but new characters that change the game in more significant ways rather than just how it looks. Fighting games are also very hard to balance and it's great that developers still keep balancing the game after its release. If they also throw in a few new characters then I don't blame them.

    Capcom has been doing this for years now and I still don't get why people complain so much about it. Street Fighter II is over 10 years old and people should know by now that Capcom will release a huge update instead of a new game. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and they also never said they will bring out a new game and just then backed out to release a new version of an existing game. They have been doing this years before people even knew what DLC is; And quite frankly you really have to ask if it's that much of a difference compared to the yearly C.O.D. outings etc.

    That SxT will get big updates after being released should really come as no surprise. The real mistake was not being clear if future updates will be a disc release or DLC. Since they have now done that I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

  • Phantom_Dynamite #17 6 months ago

    4 new characters for £15 and and £6 a costume pack per 3 fighters I reckon.

  • Ironic_War_Criminal #18 6 months ago

    @Der_tolle_Emil Capcom has been doing this for years now and I still don't get why people complain so much about it.

    It's an interesting point. I believe it's mostly down to the majority of EG commenter's simply don't get how the genre and it's community work and whenever Capcom announce an update, they suddenly feel they are being victimised because of these new versions or DLC.

    The thing is, you ask a fighting game fan, a proper hardcore fighting game fan, what their favourite games in the genre are and they will usually tell you Super SF2 Turbo, King Of Fighters '98, Marvel Vs Capcom 2 or Virtua Fighter 4. The one thing those games all share though, is the fact that they are all made from recycled assets. The thing is, the fans of the genre don't care since the companies made highly playable, technical fighting games. People bought KOF '98 as a NeoGeo cart for hundreds of pounds, even though the only original content was some new stages and some remixed music, because it was SNK's master work. It was almost perfectly balanced, highly playable and infinitely re-playable. That's what fighting game fans are interested in with expansions, it's a perfected version of the game they have been playing for years and who cares if it has recycled content. Usually the dev team has been focusing on the gameplay and balancing instead of adding superfluous new features anyway. It's the version and those players are happy to buy it.

    So when the usual gang of ill-informed commenters roll up into the comments claiming that Capcom is "Fucking them", it's usually because they only barely touched the game in the first place. Someone who is invested and engrossed in it would happily pay out for an expansion with new content because it's more content. For anyone new, it's a proper jumping on point. But for someone who bought it and never really invested the time into it, it's a sore point because they never got their value out of it and wont appreciate how much value there is to the other two groups.

    Though I am interested to see how they handle DLC with it though. One of the interesting things with Super SF4 was that the first month sales were fairly bad. However, post Evolution and thanks to the exposure of tournaments showcasing the game and it's changes. The game sold steadily well to the tune of 1.6 million copies by the end of Capcom's financial year. The game essentially sold itself by being featured at high levels of play so I wonder if they could repeat the same success with DLC?
    Edited by Ironic_War_Criminal at 14/11/11 @ 21:45

  • Bander #19 6 months ago

    @Der_tolle_Emil I did wonder if anyone would take my post seriously. Apparently so.

    Okay, I take it back. My post was very silly. Apart from the Ryu part. I counted and it's exactly 50/50.

  • JeroenZM #20 6 months ago

    I'm really starting to dislike DLC in general. Not the concept, mind you, but the way developers implement/abuse it. Capcom in particular employs some business tactics that rubs me the wrong way.

  • bemani247 #21 6 months ago

    ''If we decide to create a new version of the game, we will go with the Street Fighter IV series route''
    uh...didnt SFIV:AE get a Disk Release also?
    Guess that means Im gonna hold out for the Disk release due to my PS3 HD getting seriously full

  • sailesh #22 6 months ago

    probably bullshit but I'll still be getting it around launch.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #23 6 months ago

    @bemani247: uh...didnt SFIV:AE get a Disk Release also?

    The news of SxT going the DLC route is about a week old but I don't remember where I originally read about it (probably eventhubs, srk or iplaywinner). I do remember though that Ono said it would be great if they could also release it on disc in addition to DLC but he wasn't able to confirm.

    @Ironic_War_Criminal: The thing is, you ask a fighting game fan, a proper hardcore fighting game fan, what their favourite games in the genre are and they will usually tell you Super SF2 Turbo, King Of Fighters '98, Marvel Vs Capcom 2 or Virtua Fighter 4.

    That's the point. Capcom are striving for perfection because let's be honest, you cannot really change too much in Street Fighter without making it an entirely new game; However, you can always improve what is already there. It's very genre specific, I agree, but most fighting game players don't want to throw away everything they have learned in the last year because most gamers who are not that into the game prefer to see a SF5 logo on the box instead of SF4:AE.

    I understand though that it's a bit hard to understand if you are not really into fighting games but the way Capcom is handling their franchise updates is quite good. After all this is still a niche genre and nobody can afford to split the userbase - and it works because all the people into fighting games have no problems if that means spending a bit more on DLC / Ultimate versions than would have been necessary if the games sold 2+ million copies.

  • Cobalt_Jackal #24 6 months ago

    The same people who are complaining about this/complainng about Capcoms actions, these people are the same people who buy £15 map-packs for COD every year. So im sorry but i don't think alot of you on here really can/are in any position to complain about this.
    Edited by Cobalt_Jackal at 15/11/11 @ 11:12

  • kinky_mong #25 6 months ago

    @Cobalt_Jackal: Utter bollocks, I complain about Capcom's gouging and I fucking hate Call Of Duty so have never bought a map pack for that turd.

  • BigDannyH #26 6 months ago

    In games we've got a great hobby where you have such a broad choice and can invest in it in various different ways. If you really like a certain game, expand it via DLC.

    Why are gamers such tight gits? I got SSFIV for 25 brand new, one of the cheaper games out there and has endless repeat value. That's less than a round of drinks (if you've got more than 2 mates).

  • Rack #27 6 months ago

    I've been buying CoD map packs? When did that happen? I don't even have the games.

  • FuzzyDuck #28 6 months ago

    Okay, my fave fighting games (and by extension games in general) are Capcom vs. SNK 2, SSFII Turbo, SFIII: TS, VF4 Evo and Guilty Gear XX#Reload. Yes i can FADC, yes i know what p-linking is, yes i know what negative edge is, yes i know how to hit confirm and play mix up. And you'd have to pay me to play CoD.

    Does this qualify me to reiterate how crap i think Capcom have become?

  • Ironic_War_Criminal #29 6 months ago

    Post deleted at 09:51:18 12-12-2011

  • Ironic_War_Criminal #30 6 months ago

    @FuzzyDuck

    Not particularly if you like all those games since by your standards, you were gouged in the past and were quite happy to take it.

    PS. Eurogamer please dont have the post editing tabs pop up at the bottom of a post because it's a pain in the ass.

  • FuzzyDuck #31 6 months ago

    @Ironic_War_Criminal

    Ah, but i never said anything about actually owning those titles/buying them new, nor their prequels.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #32 6 months ago

    @FuzzyDuck: Ah, but i never said anything about actually owning those titles/buying them new, nor their prequels.

    So you agree that the way Capcom updates their titles is the one that produces the best games (since you seem to enjoy the latest iterations of each release) but you don't think they should do this or even get paid for it? That's quite an interesting concept you have there.

  • FuzzyDuck #33 6 months ago

    @Der_tolle_Emil

    Well hands up, you have me there. My twat-hat was well and truly on. For the record i do own all those titles (all bought new where possible, and several different console versions of SF3).

    I'm just cheesed that Capcom will no doubt chuck loads of (admittedly superfluous stuff) out as DLC too for ridiculous prices. Stuff that used to be unlocked when ya cleared the game.

    Guess i'm just weary of buying a title at launch (i can live with it being heavily discounted only weeks later, but this 'half the game on the disc' scenario is what's annoying me). As you pointed out earlier, sign o' the times.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #34 6 months ago

    I totally agree with you on that point. It would be great if things like new costumes would be unlockable instead of DLC. The only thing I can say in favor of the DLC is that you don't miss out on content that alters gameplay if you decide not to get it. I have yet to get a single skin for any of the Capcom games - I think they are a rip-off.

    As pointed out a couple of times in this thread I am fine with big updates incl. new characters as DLC or even disc based (but budget!) releases like UMvC3 though - especially because they are not the new evil Capcom but the devoted Capcom like they have always been. It is, as you say, the costumes and other superfluous DLC that should be avoided and it seems like Capcom is pushing what they think is acceptable with every new release.