Portal 2 Metacritic user score pounded
Mutiny at DLC prices, game length, ARG.
Despite bringing in some of the highest review scores of the year so far, the PC version of Portal 2 is taking an absolute battering on its Metacritic user score page.
Whereas its straight Metacritic rating currently sits at a very healthy 95, its PC user score average is a dismal 5.1.
Posters are rallying around four main complaints, with the game's online store apparently causing the most uproar. As detailed on Rock Paper Shotgun, Valve has included day one DLC that asks users to shell out up to £5 a pop for various non-essential cosmetic items and gestures for their co-op robot.
Secondly, many are complaining that the campaign is too short, offering only around four hours of gameplay.
Some are also arguing that the PC version is a straight port of the console version, probably prompted by a "Please don't turn off your console" message that appears when you save the game.
Finally, Valve's ARG Potato Sack ruse – which asked users to shell out for a bundle of indie games in order to help unlock the game on Steam before its published release date - seems to have backfired on them, with many laying into the marketing campaign in their 0/10 reviews.
"It's shorter than some internet flash games i've played, is loaded with day 1 DLC, and has a terrible port from consoles. The price is 900% what it should be for what essentially amounts to less effort than most oblivion mods," wrote one reviewer.
"Ridiculous DLC on day 1!" stated another. "And both endings have been spoilt virally by Valve. And while the console versions were leaked 2 weeks early, the PC version was still subject to the gimmicky grab for cash to allow for a faster unlock via steam. Is this going to be the future of PC gaming? No wonder that PC gaming is dying."
The PlayStation 3 version has also come under attack, with its user score currently at 5.4, while the Xbox 360 version has gotten off lightly, with a 6.6 rating.
While complaints about the DLC and ARG campaign are arguably valid, the claims regarding its length are hugely exaggerated, and that save screen message is likely just an unfortunate slip-up on Valve's part.
"There's simply too much game here for it never to falter – but it hardly ever does," wrote Eurogamer's Oli Welsh in his 10/10 review. "It's so generous and complete, so satisfying in each moment and in the whole, that a momentary lull, an overused mechanic or a cheap gag seem like trivial flaws."
Regarding the console port accusations, he wrote, "Digital Foundry will present a full multi-format Portal 2 comparison soon, but for now let's note that only the consoles offer split-screen co-op, while PC and Mac are arguably the best showcase for Valve's crisp visuals and precise controls."
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^ ^ ^ ^
Playing Devil's Advocate...?! Nice.
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Enjoy it for what it is - a perfectly realised game world with unparallelled design and a self-aware sense of humour - it may be short but boy is it sweet.
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It's like sticking your head down a well.
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As for the non-important day 1 dlc... sounds fine to me... Day 1 DLC that has clearly been removed from the full game to milk it.. now thats shit...
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Also, charging for ingame gestures? After TF2's hat craze? Whaa?
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Retards will be retards I suppose.
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The complaints that have been leveled against Portal 2 on the PC are laughable and stupid.
Regarding game length, I've played close to seven hours of it by now and I'm still not done. Getting close to the end, sure, but ~8 hours seems like a pretty decent length for a game like this. Much longer than that and I'm fairly sure it would've overstayed its welcome.
Day one DLC? Sure, there's a shop for hats, items, gesture etc for the co-op characters. HATS, people. Items that have no impact what-so-ever on the gameplay itself. Items that will only be seen by your co-op partner. Items that don't offer any kind of competitive advantage, or really advantage at all, to the player in possession of it.
The console port argument is based on one line of text that, according to a Valve poster on the Steam Forums, was there due to a mix up during the certification process. Other than this insignificant line of text, people think it's a console port? It's a game developed for multiple consoles at the same time. Who cares what platform was the main development platform when the game looks and runs as well as it does? I've not noticed any bugs, had to navigate any menus using my keyboard, been unable to change my resolution, or any of the other multitude of things that are normal signs of a "crappy console port".
As for the ARG campaign? No one forced anyone to buy it. Hell, I think it was pretty cool on Valve's part to use Portal 2 to promote a lot of awesome indie games that might not have gotten the buzz they did otherwise. It's of course unfortunate if someone feel cheated for not being able to play Portal 2 sooner, but if you spent money on the Potato pack JUST because of that, then maybe you need to get your priorities straight.
God, I'm really annoyed by the PC gaming community for pulling stunts like this. Here we've got an awesomely produced, excellently written and acted and generally amazing game getting bashed for very, very minor issues, some of which are nothing more than problems of perception!
It's ironic that PC gamers complain about consoles being for "kiddies". Throwing a tantrum because not every single little detail is not to your liking is not how grown people act.
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Conclusion for me is that user ratings pounding downs are as much worth as often hyped up critics ratings, truth is somewhere in the middle and its all subjective!!
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Sure, feel free to hate the game. I'll just go back, fire it up, and have fun. Mmm, fun.
Edit: "I thought it was a little bit short so I decided to splurge and buy the DLC pack so I could get the most out of the game. All that the DLC had was a bunch of stupid hats and dances for the robots to do. Screw this game and screw valve. I want my money back."
13 out of 18 agreed with that review? Hilarious.
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The DLC and ARG thing do sound like genuine gripes, but the game length concern and the console port thing could be red herrings, maybe? It would be easy to leave an inappropriate error msg even if it wasn't a straight port and game length I have found to be a highly subjective issue.
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Reason why I don't pay much attention to reviews, I am the only person who can review a game for myself
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The only thing I'm angry about is the price of Portal 2 on Steam. But then the same could be said for the other top new releases. As with those, I'll just go and buy it in the shops for €20 less and have a nice shiney box to show for it.
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I truly feel saddened to have these people ruin the image of PC gamers as whiny assholes who like to bitch about the most insignificant of things like a save message. Please ignore these people.
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Are any game reviews?
Especially when they're so obviously out of line with common consensus.
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Now neg the fuck out of me for I am an infidel who dares to question your god.
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I'm looking forward to it, and the EG review really ramped up my expectations, but i understand people being miffed.
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like i said on the comment of previous article/news/review/something about Portal 2 in EG,
usually the splitscreen for PC can be enabled from console command.
and it is doable
even its also support Vertical/horizontal split.
here someone on steampowered forum has done it
[link url=http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1849059
]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/sh...[/link]
btw i dont understand with the rage toward Portal 2.
day one DLC with non "needed" things.
its doesnt affect the gameplay to those who buy or not buy. so why upset? O_o
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Also not many of the negative reviews seem to mention how the game actually plays...
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<a href="http://www.metacritic.com/user/pukan
">http://www.metacritic.com/user/pukan
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This one, PC and 360 - IDENTICAL reviews - 3/10
<a href="http://www.metacritic.com/user/metsfan1
">http://www.metacritic.com/user/metsfan1
</a>
This one, again 360 and PC IDENTICAL reviews - 0/10
<a href="http://www.metacritic.com/user/rooble
">http://www.metacritic.com/user/rooble
</a>
In all cases, the Portal 2 reviews are their only ones...
I've no opinion on the game at all, but this ^^^ is a bit suspicious - particularly as all the critic reviews are positive.
:edit: Nearly all of the 0/10 reviews are the ONLY reviews submitted by that particular user.
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What absolute and utter fucking bullshit.
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(I agree with Zero Punctuation, games should be judged on single player and not reviewed on the multiplayer alone)
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Don't buy the DLC, don't participate in an obvious money-maker ARG, don't rush through a game/judge titles purely on length, and don't go utterly apeshit about a slip-up which, chances are, are disproved by superior PC performance - which, shurely, you'd be able to spot, being PC leets?
to quote
GAWD
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Not like my opinion expressed in text.
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What valve are doing with the DLC is silly, fact is, it's release day which means that content should have been included in the game not released as DLC (i'm getting really fed up with complanys doing this), to not do so is just jumping on the console paid DLC bandwagon, with the way valve have supported all there other games (TF2, CS Source etc) to go the complete oposite direction this time is just spitting in the face of loyal customers.
The people defending valve amaze me, what valve is wrong and they deserve a backlash for doing it (and Eurogamer, i'm amazed you didn't even mark down for doing it).
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I bought Vanquish day one, full price.
Still one of my best ever buys, like i'm expecting Portal 2 to be on Thursday.
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I'm sure Gabe is stood be each and everyone of forcing us to buy it, and the potato sack thing to for that matter...
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Portal 2 as part of nothing but portal 2 minus bits they want to charge xtra for as DLC on day 1, a rip off.
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(For the record, I think Portal 2 is a fabulous game and I'm on my second play through. Who cares about length as long as it's fun to replay?)
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[link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/valve-wont-charge-for-dlc
]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/valve-...[/link]
"You buy the product, you get the content," used to be their motto.
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And most of those complaints are unfortunately sound. Portal 2 is a decent puzzle game with a clever atmosphere, but it gets stale very fast and the retail price of 60 euros is out of this world. The huge hype it got from professional reviewers shows how far remote from reality those said reviewers are.
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I played the online shortly with my brother, we only bought the one ps3 version, looks amazing on both systems, PC and PS3. PC version lets you make your own puzzles. How can people complain about this!?!?!?!
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That includes user reviews and professional ones.
I only read the positive reviews though. Far as I am concerned, if you don't like it, why would you review it poorly? Just don't review it at all. People who rate something so lowly obviously have a motive, otherwise they wouldn't waste there time.
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Fucking hell, this is a new low for the gaming community.
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I actually prefer spotty CoD players. At least they're not pretentious about their casual gaming.
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I dont get this idea that PC gamers are all fat and stupid according to some on this forum. I wonder have any of you heard the ass holes on live?
Crazy..
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It's a work of art, an intelligent, witty journey through the minds of genius and madness, and yet all a lot of people can do is rant on about DLC that is unimportant, that they don't need or have to buy, game length of 4 hours?! - which in my experience so far is utter bollocks, I'm 6 hours in on the single payer alone and still no sign of the end.
A lot of you so called PC gamers should be ashamed of yourselves for bahaving like total twats.
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Can somebody please explain the Fat theory to me in regards to PC gamers?
Not that I want to encourage any consoles jizzers to pull their spunk encrusted hands off their game pads!
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Surprised you stopped talking to your boyfriend on live long enough to post your vitriol?
And the without the fat nerds PC, your wankbox would still be using cartridges and 16bit Motorola chips.
Next you will be saying need for speed started on the PS1!
Joke really
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They said Coop is about 2 times longer than the first game and Single player is 3 times the length of the first game.. i read this in a interview, the first game i completed in about 90 minutes.... its not like they lied, i knew how long the game would be before i bought it, and it's about right in what they said.
I laughed while playing it, and i don't regret spending £27 on the game, its a good £13 cheaper than other single player games that only last about 1-2 hours longer. But personally this was more enjoyable for me.
I also enjoy the fact that buying it on PC i know ill probably get free DLC with new missions, that's what it's been like in LFD2 logged on yesterday for the first time in 2-3 months and had like 3 new maps to play. So im not complaining.
Short yes, but i enjoyed it so i don't care.
But people are seriously complaining about the potato sack? GROW THE FUCK UP, Valve didn't make you buy it, they said you may get the game quicker if you did, bear in mind it was only available 3 days before release, if you paid that for a possible 3 day release early your a moron.
I already own killing floor so played that over the weekend to help get it early, but i didn't put any extra money in, one of my friends did, and the lucky fucker got the valve complete pack, including Portal 2 for free cause he found all 36 potatoes -.-
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where was my homophobic post? i thought andywilkie35 was a girl?
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But of the complaints they give, the one that I genuinely can't get is replayability. How is it not worth the price of the good memories it'll leave you with of the short time you get opening portals, or all the time you'll have to recount the jokes and memes-to-be? Time in most games is typically padding to get review points, but as the first Portal proved, shorter can indeed be better.
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I don't care what some hateful kiddies are bitching.
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the message that 38€(the digital copy from steam asks that much)is way too much for a 4hour console port with co-op that has no replay value at all and cut contend from the game to release it as DLC.I wrote about the Orange Box-it had multiple AAA games-TF2 including,which I still play and the original Portal-at 40€!Do the comparison yourself.If anyone here is rich,I won't be the one to tell him how to spend his money,but please let me judge for myself how to spend mine.There is another article that says that Epic games feel threatened from 1$ games for smartphones.Well,Valve should be too.
Oh,and I never bought any CoD,I only play Bad Company 2. Play.com sells it for 16.49€,that's value!
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I'm not even going to compare the n-th brown roller-coaster Call Of Duty clone (a.k.a. Modern Warfare 2) with a brilliant masterpiece which is Portal 2.
Same goes for the in-game store - it's non-essential, people! Nobody is selling extra finale or uber-gun firing 3 different portals. You want those skins - you buy them, if you don't - play the game as it is.
Fucking morons.
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if you don't like multiplayer,then Modern Warfare 2 was a ripoff.You probably don't like multiplayer because you are no good at it and it takes time for you to finish games for the same reason.Go play Tetris or something.Fucking moron.
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Reason: Valve gave an incredible amount of maps and gamemodes away FOR FREE with the L4D series and TF2.
But I'm not paying €50 for a 12 hour game with no replay value.
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As for the whole DLC debate, seriously... It's purely cosmetic stuff. It's not new levels or anything, it's pure cosmetic. You get the same on most console titles on day one as well. The game is fantastic, it's got 8 hours of play easily not including replay value and then going through it again for the commentary.
Valve also sorted the rewards for those with their 36 potatoes and if they had preordered portal 2 and got golden potatoes they now have a free copy of portal 2 to gift.
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It took me around 8 hours to finish the game, cut like 30 minutes of me slacking off and it's still way more than the mentioned 4 hours. And I don't think I lagged behind either, I just didn't power run through the whole thing. If the co-op campaign is as big as the SP then in total it's over 12 hours of gameplay and that's fine.
Anyone who claims that plays Valve games, has played TF2 and knows about the store and everything around it. Everyone else thinks that it is day 1 DLC. Well it's not, Valve's DLCs actually have content and not the crap that other companies sell to customers like a new skin or a gesture for 5$. And when the time comes for Portal 2's DLC, chances are it's gonna be free of charge.
The ARG is a valid one. I too was expecting something more out of that, like EP3 info. If they bought all the games just to do the ARG in hopes of getting something of real money value (besides the Valve pack) then it's probably their fault since noone guaranteed anything like that. But still, if the guys were loyal enough to spend time on observing stuff for the ARG it makes sense that they are Valve fans and they already have their games, making their reward kinda silly. A unique skin for multi or their steam profile could be better off. Or a trip to Valve HQ or something.
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Go buy a £150 console then and save half of your life copying feckin files from one folder to another just to get something to work.
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[link url=http://i.imgur.com/cGgFk.png
]http://i.imgur.com/cGgFk.png
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Instructions include not to post 0 as it gets deleted, rather post low score but use positive words in body text so it cannot be easily detected and removed from rankings.
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I prefer to play games on PC for a reason,that is by choice,not out of ignorance like you do on consoles.I also own a Wii,a PS3 and several handhelds.I am not a geek as you may think for PC users,believe it or not.I,for that matter,know more about console gaming than you do for PC gaming.The benefit of having multiple platforms is that you have the luxury of choice,whatever it may be..Don't post stupid comments that have no substance at all.
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"I'm sure Gabe is stood be each and everyone of forcing us to buy it, and the potato sack thing to for that matter... "
What?
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I mean how are we missing the bit where the 360 and PS3 reviews are getting hit with the same thing? As others have noted, this is largely coming out of 4chan, who decided on review bombing Portal 2 "for the Lulz". They're hitting ALL versions.
Grief, look at the Steam stats for one second will you? If this was really just about PC gaming then Portal 2 wouldn't currently be one of the highest played games ever to hit Steam.
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I recall all the rage around the announcement of Left4Dead 2 and people love that game now
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I mean grief, you even once LITERALLY said that Blizzard have some weird hatred or dislike of the console market (and this was regarding a post simply saying the PC market was healthy), and when I tried to address that one with you (fairly politely I would have said) you called everyone "PC cunts" and then stormed off. I can even post the link if you really want, but personally I'd rather not.
Which is kind of the problem I have with that whole "LULZ PC ELITISTS" attitude. Because like I said (and as others have already pointed out), this review bombing thing is largely some bizarre anti-Valve campaign coming out of 4chan, and as a result it's also affecting ALL versions on metacritic, not just the PC version.
And yet with all that Portal 2 is still managing to be the highest played game on Steam right now and definitely amongst the highest played games ever released on Steam. Which would be kind of difficult if this was some mass action across an entire freaking platform as it's being tarred, and not simply the work of a bunch of angsty shouty internet dudes.
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I tihnk people can make up their own decisions thankyou. I have also stated MANY times how I love PC games, have played them for years, and have no issue's with the hardware or companies involved in making games on that platform. Its the PC community with the constant "console kiddies" crap that pisses me off, even the PC gamers who arent so outright offensive in their dislike of consoles often have an air of aloofness about them, I just think they need to get over themselves.
Just to make sure you dont get confused with my point:
PC hardware/games = fucking awesone
(Majority of) PC gamers = twats
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Sadly, the only conclusion to be drawn from such a sweeping mass twatting of tens of millions of people, is that you.. yourself.. are.. in fact.. the twat.
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[link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-26-blizzard-pc-gaming-super-healthy/comments
]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-1...[/link]
"Dear oh dear, looks to me like the only people getting defensive and "up in arms" here are pc cunts. And you are cunts. Insecure, stuck-up, elitist, over-sensitive little smelly cunts. I hope PC gaming dies on its big fat spotty arse if you lot are the gamers who are left. CUNTS. "
Be honest. This is neither polite nor rational conversation, and it wasn't really warranted either. It's largely just ending on a rage.
Referring back to that linked thread, I felt Arcam had a far more valid viewpoint, and at least didn't swear at people if they held a different viewpoint. You were getting pretty angry at people because they didn't hold with the view that Blizzard have some bizarre vendetta against the consoles, when ultimately decisions along those lines were business or playability decisions (and even more relevant, it looks like Blizzard may be developing one or two console specific titles at the moment).
So yeah. When you start going that route, I'm going to have to side with Subquest on that one.
EDIT: And really, then let's take a look at a different community for a second then shall we?
Saw LoT linked over in the Portal 2 review, and thought it would be relevant.
[link url=http://www.lensoftruth.com/news/portal-2-a-slap-in-the-face-to-360-and-pc-users/
]http://www.lensoftruth.com/news/portal-2...[/link]
Read the post. Now read the comments. Now then, shall we start tarring the entire 360 or PS3 communities on the basis of these? Oh but look, it's a lovely 3-way as well because the author brought in that one splash screen as evidence that PC users got shafted as well, whilst going on about how the 360 version was deliberately gimped in favour of the PS3 version.
Seriously, if you want I can recount any number of idiot claims and arguments that I've seen come from both the 360 and PS3 "communities" as well, just as vehement and just as loud. Grief, until E3 last year, Gabe Newell was defined as Evil Incarnate by angry PS3 community fanboys, how suddenly that changed eh? The point being you DON'T cast everyone based off of a few loudmouths. That would be silly.
Particularly when the aforementioned actual gameplay stats show otherwise.
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I will side with the others as well.When it comes to pigs-you are really photogenic by the way-like yourself,there is no need to be polite.You are a big ass
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It's not a 4 hour game. Sorry to break it to you but your internet heroes are either liars, idiots or quite simply self-entitled pricks.
Frankly, it wouldn't bother me if it was. The game is one of the best I've played and is far more deserving of my cash than most games out there. The in game store is a bit of a rip though, some of that should at least be unlocked via achievements or something.
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There, I said it...
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And despite what you think of these guys charging money for animations and cosmetic items which cost almost nothing to make is pretty despicable. Exploitation would be the word I'd use.
That said Portal 2 was a great game, a shame it had to have this taint on it, and I have lost some of my former respect for Valve.
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I have no objection to businesses making a profit... for selling things that are worth the asking price. That rules out about 90% of DLC. I wasn't specifically talking about Valve when I made that post. There are far worse companies like Activision that manages to sell millions of copies of overpriced map packs to the ignorant consumer. They are really struggling to pay the bills eh maybe Bobby Kotick can spend some of his $5 million annual bonus?
Now if your brain is capable just think for a second about the development of Portal 2. All the programmers, artists, voice actors, management that worked on that game for years. They then sell their product for the price of an average game... no problem there. But then they think... hang we're only going to sell x million copies... how can we milk even more cash out of people? I know! Lets remove some content from the game and sell it seperately for waaaay more than it actually cost to make! Surely some people wiill be stupid enough to pay for it! And that's what they are doing calling you stupid every time you buy it. Meanwhile the sensible who don't buy it lose out because they decided to remove it from the game for extra milking. They did not 'offer' anything at all they took something that normally would have been included and tried to resell it overpiced.
I pity those people who are willing to blindly pay for something without thinking how much it's worth. Maybe these companies can start charging for the air in the gamebox too?
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This is just a fluff piece.