Capcom denies alienating DR2 PS3 gamers

By Wesley Yin-Poole Published 22 September, 2010

Xbox exclusivity "a present" to original fans.

Capcom has denied it is "alienating" PS3-owning Dead Rising fans following the announcement of Xbox Live-exclusive downloadable game Dead Rising 2: Case West.

The Dead Rising 2 epilogue is designed to compliment Dead Rising 2 in the same way fellow Xbox Live exclusive Dead Rising 2: Case Zero did last month.

Following Case West's Tokyo Game Show reveal PS3 gamers complained that they were being denied the beginning and end of the upcoming zombie kill-em-up.

"I think Inafune [Keiji, head of global R&D] said that we're sorry that it seems like you're getting a little bit less of the Dead Rising 2 universe, but you'll still be able to enjoy the full game," insisted co-producer Shinsaku Ohara in an interview with Eurogamer.

"You'll just miss a little bit of extra. We haven't completely alienated PS3 gamers because Dead Rising 2 is a standalone boxed product."

Developer Blue Castle Games' Rob Barrett added that Dead Rising 2 is complete without Case Zero and Case West.

"The game was completely designed to be a self-contained and enjoyable experience, beginning to end, regardless of the prologue and the epilogue."

Ohara echoed comments made by Inafune in an recent interview with Eurogamer, when he explained the Xbox 360 exclusivity of Dead Rising 2's downloadable games.

"Dead Rising was our very first Xbox 360 title and Microsoft supported the title all the way," Ohara said.

"At the beginning we didn't know that this new IP would be a success, but the fans on the console really assisted in making it into one. So it's like a present, something that we gave back to the original Dead Rising fans."

Dead Rising 2 is due out on Friday. Expect Eurogamer's review on the same day.

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  • Darren #1 1 year ago

    Never mind apologising to PS3 owners, what about PC owners too? Don't we exist or something? :?

    P.S. The PC version of Dead Rising 2 has been delayed to 1st October.

  • iamian #2 1 year ago

    Sounds like a fair enough arguement to me... plus I'm sure the fat sack of cash MS offered for exclusivity helped.

  • Peew971 #3 1 year ago

    Fair enough, I'm not complaining that Mass Effect 2 comes on PS3 with all the DLC I have to pay for.

  • ouchio #4 1 year ago

    Hey Crapcom, I am now fully 100% alienated.

  • des #5 1 year ago

    "PS3-owning Dead Rising fans"...lol,what fans???Dead Rising can only have 360 and Wii fans.

  • Death-Jester #6 1 year ago

    How can you deny someone's opinion?
    If people feel alienated, you can't just turn up and say "no you aren't". Then they'll feel alienated and angry.

  • sentinal101 #7 1 year ago

    Since when do you have to buy your own present ! Lol. Gee thanks you shouldn't of !

  • supermaniacs #8 1 year ago

    If that's the case why didn't the PS3 owners of DMC4 get a "DLC present" ??

  • darkmorgado #9 1 year ago

    I can understand why people are annoyed over the exclusive DLC on this.

    However, the particular nature of the hysteria in people's responses (At least on here) really is just completely out of proportion. I don't recall this level of hysteria over the GTA dlc, for example. Some people really need to get some f*cking perspective.

  • Cappy #10 1 year ago

    I'm used to it from Capcom. Their PS3 support has been consistently poor for this generation.

    That's okay, I'll pass on this just like all the other Capcom PS3 releases.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 11:18

  • metallicorphan #11 1 year ago

    i am surprised DR2 is on the PS3 anyway,with DR1 not happening for the PS3....they brought Lost Planet 1 to the PS3 later,so i was expecting DR1


    OFF TOPIC:there are 4 DLC on the marketplace right now.free pack Ninja, Psycho,soldier or sports fan and they are all free(its for Co-Op)

    it said something about don't download this if you have the skills pack DLC already.....didn't see this skills pack anywhere,so i just downloaded them all(found it,see below)

    'This pack is not necessary if you have already downloaded and installed the "Skills Pack - Psycho" content pack.'

    http://ma rketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/games/...

  • TopKatt #12 1 year ago

    Well I ain't hysterical, I just ain't buying it.

  • GreyBeard #13 1 year ago

    Fuck Capcom. The ridiculous situation with only the reissued RE5 Gold getting patched for Move is enough to ensure I'll never buy one of their games again.

  • NotSoSlim #14 1 year ago

    Capcom with more spiel as usual. They have supported the PS3 poorly this gen which they can do if they choose just dont bitch when they dont the games you make. Quite easily allowed PS3 owners to support the original game if you bothered to release it...just a thought

    On a side not why have they not sorted the annoying loading in the game?
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 11:27

  • Goodfella #15 1 year ago

    For those wondering, I've played the 360 and the PS3 version and to be honest, it looks like another shit port to PS3.

    Sadly, I would have to recommend getting the 360 version if you have both consoles.

  • MrFlump #16 1 year ago

    It's incredible that people complained about the fact that this experiment was out on the 360 only and PS3 owners felt let down and someone from Capcom actually explains the decision behind it and there are complaints (not only here) about the fact that they've actually justified it and given a straight answer.

    I'm sure for some of their games where this kind of prologue/epilogue suits it that you'll start seeing the content appearing multi-platform in the future. Its probably not cost effective for something new like this to produce it for multiple consoles when its an unknown as to if you'll get the return or not on it. I consider this as the xbox owners being the guinea pigs here and in the future because of that, there will be more content out for both the xbox and ps3.

    I'm not sure that this kind of thing is really practical on the PC unless its some kind of distribution method through something like Steam. Then you'll have people complaining about the fact that it'd be on Steam. Even more so, i can't think of a way this would work on the Wii.

    Point here really is that they can't appeal to everyone all the time and various releases, console structures and business models are always going to screw things up for someone. I'm just hopeful that because of this that where its appropriate more games in the future adopt this conept and more people on the various gaming systems can experience it.

  • darkmorgado #17 1 year ago

    Well, my copy of DR2 arrived today and I am thoroughly enjoying it.

    Fricking awesome game.

  • ParanoidZombie #18 1 year ago

    PS3 fanboys, your plan is FLAWLESS: boycotting Capcom games will make a HUGE difference, and is the SMART thing to do.

  • brseg #19 1 year ago

    Personally I dont like it. Either support the game on that platform, or dont. It can only be about money, there is no logical reason to deny half your customers a product.

  • Moribundman #20 1 year ago

    @metallicorphan - I *believe* that the free skill pack DLC currently online will simply allow you to play co-op alongside someone who has the respective pre-order pack (much like the packs that allow Fable 2 players to co-op with someone who has one of the expansions).

    I have the ninja pack on its way from GAME, but I am very keen to get the other special moves.

    Come on guys - why don't we all moan that Capcom are excluding us by only making the "complete" skill packs available to people who choose to preorder from a particular company!! :-P

  • geeza2020 #21 1 year ago

    I don't own a PS3, but I'm bloody confused by all the different versions of Dead Rising 2 coming out. Is it:

    Dead Rising 2: Case Zero
    Dead Rising 2
    Dead Rising 2 Case West

    Is that right?

  • Cappy #22 1 year ago

    Even if PS3 owners boycott Capcom releases and they sell pitiful amounts it really wouldn't make much difference.

    They're just a way of generating some easy cash off the back of the 360 version, the releases would have to really bomb to offset the tiny proportion of the overall budget devoted to the PS3 versions. They'll keep doing it because it's cheap and makes them a lot of profit.

  • I\'mListening #23 1 year ago

    Any review soon?

  • darkmorgado #24 1 year ago

    @geeza

    Yeah, that's correct. Dead Rising 2 is the main retail game.

    Case Zero is DLC set a few years before the story of dead rising 2. Case West is set after the conclusion of the story in DR2.

  • TopKatt #25 1 year ago

    @paranoidzombie

    Not a plan, I just tend not to spend my hard earned money on products that I don't feel is worth it. I'm funny like that. Or are you suggesting that we all run out and buy all Capcoms products so we don't make them cross?

  • SpaceMonkey77 #26 1 year ago

    Sounds fair enough to me. DR was the reason I purchased a 360.

    PS3 owners are this gens GC owners, so they are always going to get shafted, some way or another.

  • Markitron #27 1 year ago

    Surely the definition of 'orginal' fans is people that bought the fucking game and intend on buying the sequel. Obviously there will be a hell of a lot more of those ppl buying it on 360 but to give them no choice is stupid.

  • digoutyoursoul #28 1 year ago

    where do these people come from? every playstation owner i know in person or speak to on the net are great, they like games but prefer what playstation offers than the others, simple and nothing wrong with that. i dont hear these elusive cretins moaning about case zero complain when dead space 2 gets a full on game special edition exclusive,well they aernt moaning they are trolling 360 forums bragging about it. the first sold more on 360 so are xbox gamers being alienated with that one? honestly all fanboys are shitheads but from a quick glance the sony looneys seem to be the worst of a bad lot.

  • CnD #29 1 year ago

    A gift to original Dead Rising fans?

    Okay, Capcom. Fair enough. Now where's your gift to original Devil May Cry fans? You know, since the series began on PS2.

  • metallicorphan #30 1 year ago

    @moribundman

    thanks for that,i didn't know about the pre-order packs(i didn't see anything on GAME site about it),and yeah that is quite shit that straight away we miss out on at least 3 of the packs...kinda like Fallout New Vegas as well

  • RobTheBuilder #31 1 year ago

    A nice polite way of avoiding the "Microsoft gave us a big fat cheque" angle. Though given Sony's policy of demanding exclusive content I don't think most PS3 owners can have any major complaints.

  • kangarootoo #32 1 year ago

    Its funny when publishers talk about "presents" and "rewarding" users and so on, like these decisions are ever based on such altruistic things.

    The exclusive release on the 360 is almost certainly happening because 360 users have shown they will buy DR content. The PS3 is a new area for DR, so the response of customers is less known. If sales prove to be strong on the PS3, you can bet that PS3 users will also be "rewarded" for their support with "presents" of further content to buy.

  • TopKatt #33 1 year ago

    I think that the way the DLC packs have been described by Capcom has caused most of the upset. Whatever console we own we're all used to the other console getting bonus missions, extra characters, etc, etc, but describing these packs as "prologue" and "epilogue" certainly gives the impression that PS3 owners are getting an incomplete product.

  • INTVGene #34 1 year ago

    What I hate most about these statements is just the lack of honesty. Just tell me that you got the payout! Don't try and justify it.

    Capcom's been terrible this generation. I remember a quote last year how they aren't going to make any more exclusive titles. Then, this, Case Zero, a couple more exclusives at the TGS last week. Just admit it, Capcom.

    Don't treat us like idiots.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 12:02

  • YobRenoops #35 1 year ago

    I'll just wait for the inevitable "GOTY" edition in 6 months with all the DLC.

  • Xardan #36 1 year ago

    Wah Wah wah wah ps3 this wah wah wah xbox that...

  • Markitron #37 1 year ago

    @YobRenoops

    Thats the plan :)

  • digoutyoursoul #38 1 year ago

    "it's well know that Microsoft is happy to pay for the exclusivity"

    well what do you think they do? beg? and what do sony do to get exclusive stuff, offer coffee and cake?

  • TopKatt #39 1 year ago

    Got an analogy for you. Imagine going to your local bookstore on the day your favourite authors new novel is released. While queueing up you find out that, if you'd gotten there half an hour earlier you'd have got a free bookmark with the authors name and the book title on. No big deal, it'd be nice to get the bookmark but it's not going to affect your enjoyment of the book. Now imagine that you found out that the copies of the book sold earlier in the day have an extra chapter at the end? I think you'd feel a little short changed then wouldn't you?

  • ParanoidZombie #40 1 year ago

    @topkatt: I was being sarcastic, but hey, since you're asking, I mean that not buying the PS3 version of DR2 based on the fact that Case 0 and case West may not be released on PSN is completely misguided.

    Because Capcom is perfectly right - this DLC is just bonus content, and that content is pointless for those who didn't play the 1st game, and, having played Case 0, I can guarantee you that it absolutely won't have any impact on the DR2 experience of the people who didn't have the chance to play this prologue / teaser / demo.

    Let's imagine for a second that konami does the same thing with MGS rising - release a paid demo on PSN that links the events of MGS4 with the events of Rising. As a xbox owner who never got the chance to play MGS4, why would I feel alienated?
    If Bioware releases a PSN exclusive DLC that explains the mass effect 1 plot for PS3 gamers, why should I be pissed?

  • Beano #41 1 year ago

    "Dead Rising 2 is due out on Friday. Expect Eurogamer's review on the same day."

    So the review-embargo expires on release day?

    Usually not a good sign...

  • TopKatt #42 1 year ago

    @paranoidzombie

    Yep, I take your point. As I said further up, I'm starting to think that Capcoms biggest mistake was labelling this DLC as prologue ("opening to a story that establishes the setting and gives background details";) and epilogue ("usually used to bring closure to the work";) rather than just bonus missions or whatever.

  • GundamJehutyKai #43 1 year ago

    wow, the corporate BS seems to be in particularly large quantities and stink even more recently.

    Not that it matters to me. I don't have any intention of buying the game after having a go at a recent Capcom event.

    Here's the review in a nutshell "basically, it's the same as DR1. All the annoying things, the psychopaths, the way your character moves like a truck with a missing wheel, the damn stupid companion AI, it's all still there and it all still annoys! a few new features like the ability to combine weapons isn't going to make much of a difference. If you loved the first game, you'll love this. If not... do I even need to finish this sentence?"

  • FogHeart #44 1 year ago

    I'm pretty sure the extra playable content in Dead Space 2 special edition is Extraction, ported over from the Wii. That's a light gun game. So in the case of Dead Space 2 extra content, it's not about "don't wanna" or "was paid not to" it's about "not possible".

    If I'm wrong and there is other playable content, then I apologise (but obviously I'd like to know about it!)

  • Paulie_P #45 1 year ago

    Well in the interview they state that the new character has still not been proven innocent(or something along those lines) by the time of the epilouge. If he does have his name cleared by the end of that then surely the PS3 owners are missing out on an important part of the story?

    Incidently I have a 360, but I'm refusing to buy 'Microsoft Points' in order to buy games.

  • Bigmac1910 #46 1 year ago

    Well, they did alienate me, not going to buy it cause of this, they have gradually treated the PS3 worse and worse this gen, oh well more money towards other stuff. And Keiji Inafune might as well move in with M$ and just do exclusives for the Xbox360 he is so hell bent on his westernised game attitude, that it seems like he doesn't want to deal with japanese gamers or companies anymore. Just look at how he talks about the japanese games industry.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 12:54

  • kangarootoo #47 1 year ago

    @EarlBassett

    Well, whatever the business mechanics of it all in this particular case, my point is that it IS business mechanics and not "present giving" to "reward" players as the statement suggested.

  • drumbaby #48 1 year ago

    Talk to the hand, I'm not buying your full game, because personally I'm not happy about not getting a present just because you wouldn't release the first game on PS3.

  • arcam #49 1 year ago

    It would be nice if we could debate the real reasoning behind these industry decisions.

    Instead we debate the false reasoning given by devs and PR in interviews, which is a total waste of time because nobody actually used that reasoning in the decision-making process in the first place.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 12:56

  • Moribundman #50 1 year ago

    @EarlBassett We'll soon see whether PS3 owners will get Case West. If Frank is totally reintroduced as a new character then it suggests Capcom are making the content accessible to people who haven't played DR1, and looks more likely that it will eventually end up on PS3. If he's introduced as if you are supposed to know who he is, it looks more like a solid 360 exclusive.

    And as far as Case Zero is concerned - the exposition and plot there really don't add anything that we don't know about the game, it's a self contained narrative which is fun but never steps outside what anyone who's been following previews dilligently would already know...

  • ParanoidZombie #51 1 year ago

    The real mystery here is why they didn't make a PS3 version of DR1. And yet they made a Wii version...

  • reverandglass #52 1 year ago

    I didn't buy Case 0 and won't buy Case West either because my xbox loving, MS fanboy friend has/will and I can play them at his place. I feel no more alienated not getting these DLC on PS3 than I do not getting Halo. Exclusives have always been a part of console culture so why treat DLC any differently?

  • Lord_Gremlin #53 1 year ago

    My bullshit-o-meter shows 96,8% bullshit.

    I gonna trust it and won't buy this game (I play on PC and PS3). There are a lot of games coming out that offers me full content, without missing endings and openings.

  • Goodfella #54 1 year ago

    So the review-embargo expires on release day?

    Usually not a good sign...

    That's because the game is shit. I played an hour and turned it off out of boredom. Admittedly I didn't like the first game though.

    Neg away! ;)

  • Goodfella #55 1 year ago

    A good reason for PS3 owners not to buy this game is if it turns out to be Capcom Shit-port, not because we didn't get a piece of DLC.

    Like i said on page 1, it is a shit port. Poor graphics (almost PS2 like), screen tear and an iffy framerate.

  • jonharrispro #56 1 year ago

    why can't we all just be friends!!!

  • Lord_Gremlin #57 1 year ago

    @Goodfella: Well, considering the fact that there are games that are better on PS3, this one definitely doesn't deserve your money, unless you want it for 360.
    @jonharrispro: Because CAPCOM are bitches who want to rip-off those who'll buy their game on PS3, and who knows what'll be with PC version! Radeon not supported? Problems with multicore processors?

  • Rrralphster #58 1 year ago

    Meh... I don't have a haxbox anymore. Played DR (1) several times through. I have it on the Wii.
    And just because I switched to PS3 I can't have the prequel...

    kinda sucks

  • Goodfella #59 1 year ago

    @ Lord Gremlin

    I totally agree and it doesn't deserve my money, on any platform. I'm waiting for Castlevania and Enslaved. :-D

  • xenoss #60 1 year ago

    if I feel alienated...

    how does their denying it make me feel any better?

    "I feel alienated"

    "No you're not."

    "No, I'm not."

    ?????

    You mean like Jedi Mind Trick? Sorry, Capcom. but thats just in Star Wars.

  • Lord_Gremlin #61 1 year ago

    Actually, I've been thinking... Presents are usually FREE, are they not? And if they're not, aren't they coming from assholes?

  • darkmorgado #62 1 year ago

    So the review-embargo expires on release day?

    I'm not aware of any embargo. In fact, the current issue of 360 Gamer (I believe) reviewed it side-by-side with Case Zero and gave it an 8. More of the same basically, but with a slightly more lenient save system, better NPC AI, and more inventive Zombies.

    I'm playing it and really enjoying what I've seen so far. I attempted to see if I could find an MP game (bearing in mind it hasn't been officially released yet), but of course I had no success.

    EDIT: Yep, it's 360gamer. Issue 83. It has Halo Reach on the cover. They praise Dead Rising's co-op, too, btw.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 14:00

  • Beano #63 1 year ago

    "I'm not aware of any embargo. In fact, the current issue of 360 Gamer (I believe) reviewed it side-by-side with Case Zero and gave it an 8. "

    Maybe because some magazines are not bound by the same embargo as the rest of the world/internet. If the game is in reviewers hands now, I'm sure we would have seen many reviews online allready. I have not seen a single online review yet.

  • Kenshin001 #64 1 year ago

    Might have been interested in DR2 if they had put out DR1 or DR Zero on PSN but now I just can't muster up much enthusiasm. Capcom aren't doing that well, their profits are at their lowest since 2004 and a few of their latest games have flopped so I would have thought they'd make a bit of an effort. Oh well plenty of other games coming out.

  • Collymilad #65 1 year ago

    @cthulhu

    Shit like that? He's perfectly right.

    I own both consoles and play both a lot, check my Gamertag (Collymilad) and PSN ID (CollymiladPS) If you don't believe me. The Sony fanboys are by far the worst. They think they have a god given right to extra content (newsflash, it's not the PS2 era anymore) and the guy is right, you never hear a peep from them about it being unfair when they get extra stuff, but they all throw their friggen dummies out the minute anyone else gets anything.

    As for the main story, I don't doubt that both DLC's may appear on PS3 eventually, but if they don't Capcom are correct. PS3 owners never paid for the first game and caused the sequel to be made, so there's fuck all wrong with 360 owners getting a little something extra. PS3 owners can not buy the game if they choose, I'm sure the 360 version will make Capcom a decent profit on it's own.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 14:24

  • Goodfella #66 1 year ago

    PS3 owners never paid for the first game and caused the sequel to be made, so there's fuck all wrong with 360 owners getting a little something extra.

    Lol, how sweet and naive.

    Not that I care but what about people who bought the first game on the 360 but want the sequel on the PS3, eh?

  • darkmorgado #67 1 year ago

    Not that I care but what about people who bought the first game on the 360 but want the sequel on the PS3, eh?

    Well they can then buy it on the PS3. With regards to the DLC, well then there's nothing stopping from downloading it on the 360, as the hypothetical situation you have given points out that they bought the first on the 360 (presuming, of course, they still own their 360).

  • darkmorgado #68 1 year ago

    @Beano

    A quick google of "dead rising 2 review" has thrown up that a review has been posted on a site called Attack of the Fanboy. While I've never heard of that site myself, opinion of Dead Rising 2 is getting out there.

  • Goodfella #69 1 year ago

    My hypothetical situation was that they didn't have their 360 any more. :)

  • Brodie #70 1 year ago

    Anyone feeling alienated because an extra bit of a game isn't available for their chosen console should really rethink their priorities.

    It's not like any of this actually matters, you know, when you stop to think about it without being a complete nutter. Games are great, but really? Alienation? Over a missing mission/story pack? Come on...

    Maybe Capcom should feel alienated that those complaining didn't all buy a 360 in the first place to play the game they lovingly created? Maybe they DO feel alienated, and this is some kind of teenage goth revenge. You don't know man, you weren't there.

    *awaits negative feedback*

    :(

  • TheApologist #71 1 year ago

    What baffles me is how exclusivity can really have made money for Capcom?

    Given the unexpected level of popularity of Case Zero, if Capcom did a deal based on projected sales, it seems unlikely that MS would have shelled out enough to make the exclusivity worthwhile.

    In that case, it feels a little like betting against the success of your own product on Capcom's part.

    Maybe the payment is in a sliding scale of sales or something - anyone have any insight?

  • DAN.E.B #72 1 year ago

    "on a site called Attack of the Fanboy. While I've never heard of that site myself"

    reading some of these posts I thought this was the site.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 15:42

  • Bigmac1910 #73 1 year ago

    @Brodie

    What priorities? It's only a piece of entertainment, if Capcom cannot make me feel good about their entertainment / value proposition, I just go someplace else to get entertained. In this case, I'll just buy other games instead, where i feel it gives me more value for my hard earned cash.

  • MrFlump #74 1 year ago

    @noface - spiel in this way is meant as rhetoric

    Either way, I don't really see what the issue here is. Its not like your life depends on playing this and if companies are preferring one console over another for their releases, that is certainly their own choice. Valve alienated the PS3 for long enough as well, are you all going to not bother with Portal 2?

    Where were Epic Games' loyalties with all the PC owners who supported making their engine in the first place and those who bought GoW when they never released Gears of War 2 for the PC? No matter what way you look at it, companies make these decisions for themselves and based on their own strategies, no amount of whining about being alienated or feeling unappreciated is going to change their minds!

    Edit: As an aside, the original Dead Rising was released for the xbox in Europe in September 2006, the PS3 wasn't released until March 2007 iirc. Are there really suggestions that they should have recoded what was at the time a 6 month old game for a new platform?
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 15:48

  • Machiavellian #75 1 year ago

    What baffles me is how exclusivity can really have made money for Capcom?

    Given the unexpected level of popularity of Case Zero, if Capcom did a deal based on projected sales, it seems unlikely that MS would have shelled out enough to make the exclusivity worthwhile.

    In that case, it feels a little like betting against the success of your own product on Capcom's part.

    DR2 is a known game on the 360, unknown on the PS3. The game has fans on the 360 and none on the PS3. It's the risk versus reward. Much less risk on the 360 much more risk on the PS3. When time is money, it's easier to make that investment on the 360 as proven by case zero then on the PS3. Because of case zero success, it's even easier to invest in case west which should be even more successful. Are these decisions based on money, well of course they are. Is it wrong for Capcom to base their decision on money, of course not. The same people who get bent out of shape over something like this will be the same people crowing about some DLC they received on their platform of choice

  • drumbaby #76 1 year ago

    "...no amount of whining about being alienated or feeling unappreciated is going to change their minds! "

    Probably not. But Capcom making an awkwardly half arsed quasi-apology (that reeks a little of BS) through an article like this is certainly a step in the right direction.

  • darkmorgado #77 1 year ago

    Review on release day LOL

    Shit game, confirmed.

    Only it's not. Quite a few people have already got their copy (mine arrived this morning) and are having great fun playing it. It's a definite improvement over DR1, which in itself was fantastic.

  • riceNpea #78 1 year ago

    i thought in business it was a good idea to incentivise new customers not just reward the old

    bollocks to ya. i'm not buying it anyway.

  • andywilkie35 #79 1 year ago

    I didn't realise there were so many butthurt Killshit 2 fanboys on EG

  • ruslan74 #80 1 year ago

    Shame, here PS3-fans have a cookie. It eventually pays to own both consoles if you are a true gamer.

  • Bumbuliuz #81 1 year ago

    I will have to wait for the Game of the Year Edition I guess to get all this stuff on my 360 since I cant download the stuff because of Microsofts region restrictions.

  • drumbaby #82 1 year ago

    "The game has fans on the 360 and none on the PS3."

    This is the same Capcom who put Monster Hunter Frontier on Xbox 360 and not PS3 -- in JAPAN of all places.

    That's what sort of decisions they're making in the name of risk versus reward, and while trying not alienate ready-made audiences.

    :/

  • makeamazing #83 1 year ago

    If you are bringing an IP to a console for the first time, then you want to at least give them the same (or even better) experience, because you want to bring them into the IP mid-season and want to get them up to speed as they say. I can understand that MS may have given them good support, but if you are intent of leaving an exclusive deal (or it was just because of timing) and releasing on two consoles, then really you shouldnt (unless there is money involved) be doing favours (or doing something negative to the console you are hoping will increase your sales).

    Its a little irritating, I know Sony are doing some exclusive stuff, so i cannot honestly sit here and complain too much when Sony are doing the same (as it must be irritating to MS users the other way around). I just hope the game has a beginning and an end and they havent ripped the heart out of a game that I have been waiting along time for.

    My wife should be bringing me the game home shortly, before i get it friday, so i can let people know my thoughts on the PS3 version if anyone is interested.

    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 20:51

  • jackdoe #84 1 year ago

    Lol. They didn't "completely alienate" PS3 fans. Just partially. Anyways, it isn't a present for the fans. A present is free. This is a present to Microsoft by giving them exclusivity to this little bit of DLC. This is akin to the DeadSpace Extraction bonus for the PS3. Only EA doesn't try to justify it as a "present to the fans". Maybe Capcom should stop beating around the bush.

    On a side note, why is Capcom outsourcing so many of their key franchises. What the hell are the internal Capcom teams doing?

  • Goodfella #85 1 year ago

    Quite frankly, Capcom are way past their prime these days with pretty crap games and crap decisions. Devil May Cry 4 was the same old crap, which was great years ago but not now, Resi 5 was trying to be all westernised and like Gears of War, and failed, Lost Planet again is just poor, Dark Void was massive fail, Bionic Commando showed promise but they failed Grin who developed it, it could have been so much better, shall I continue?

  • Jamash #86 1 year ago

    I remember reading that Sony charge 3rd party developers a $0.16/GB bandwidth charge for every demo and piece of DLC downloaded over the PSN.

    Hypothetically, if Case Zero cost $5 but was available to download as a free trial (that you paid to unlock) like it was on X-Box Live, then Capcom would have to be sure they would sell 1 copy for every 35 trials downloaded otherwise they would lose money.

    Maybe they felt Dead Rising isn't a strong enough franchise on the PS3 to risk releasing Case Zero...

  • albinac #87 1 year ago

    they are treating the ps3 owners badly and the ps3 owners should not buy this game out of principal.i have a ps3 and xbox 360 slim so i personaly couldn“t care less because i have case zero and depending on the content of case west as well. this crap about giving the xbox 360 fans a present for supporting the original game is a kick in the testicl.es of the ps3 owners and they should kick back.

  • ronuds #88 1 year ago

    LOL - so 360 owners shouldn't buy games like Mafia or Batman because those games have exclusive content on the PS3?

    Grow the fuck up already! What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • Lord_Gremlin #89 1 year ago

    @2ronuds: Mafia 2 and Batman exclusive PS3 DLCs are completely separate from main game and have no connection to it. That's not the case with DR2. We have beginning and the end. Character even imported from Case Zero to DR2.

  • SG79 #90 1 year ago

    Presents are traditionally free though. But one DLC is a given and passable, but when you announce a second one and apologize to PS3 owners while doing it (Inafune at TGS), it's politely giving them the finger.

    Looking elsewhere, RE and DMC had a long legacy on PS consoles, yet we didn't see any 'presents' there.

    Capcom is really on a roll here. Between this, DMC, RE5 original owners not getting a Move patch, they're not doing a great job with PR.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 21:06

  • SG79 #91 1 year ago

    @ Jamash

    Then why bother releasing DR2 on PS3 at all? No matter how you look at it, it's nonsensical. You know what would've helped lighten the blow? Releasing a demo for PC and PS3, but nope, nothing there. Typically, when a publisher doesn't rel ease a demo of a game prior to release, it's a tell tale sign of the product's quality.

  • makeamazing #92 1 year ago

    Playing the PS3 version of the game right now (inbetween breaks), and its alot of fun so far.

    Plus:
    Colourful
    Fun
    Its killing zombies

    Neg:
    Seems alot of loading between areas.

    To comment on what someone else has said, there is tearing on the PS3, but to be honest it only seems to happen for me, when i am close to a walled object, and i wasnt actually noticing, then i remembered i was looking for it, so its not a massive problem, ive seen far worse. The graphics are nice and colourful, the odd low texture/bluring effect in the cutscenes, but seems like a competent port so far (if your not being too picky and trying to pick fault).

  • darkmorgado #93 1 year ago

    they are treating the ps3 owners badly and the ps3 owners should not buy this game out of principal.i have a ps3 and xbox 360 slim so i personaly couldn“t care less

    Well you cared enough to post on here, and you care enough to hold a "principle".

    And what about the "kick in the testicles" that was given to owners of Mafia 2, or Batman, or Alien Breed, etc etc etc.

    Just admit that you are all wound up because you think the PS3 should get all the content, all the time. All this posturing and nonsense about "principles" is completely hypocritical, because I have checked your previous posts and there's never been anything in them before to suggest you hold this belief with regards to exclusive DLC on the PS3.

  • bronze #94 1 year ago

    If you and your twin brother had a birthday and only your twin brother got a present - wouldn't you feel alienated?

  • darkmorgado #95 1 year ago

    If you and your twin brother had a birthday and only your twin brother got a present - wouldn't you feel alienated?

    To be honest, I don't think that is a fair analogy.

    In your situation, there would be an expectation that you would also receive a present. In the games industry, which has relied heavily on content being console exclusive for many, many years (and I accept there is a debate to be held surrounding the merit and fairness of that, but it does happen and happens commonly, so in this regard it's somewhat accepted and expected), its simply a matter of fact. Sometimes you might get something on your favourite console, sometimes you won't. That's just the way it is.

    Now I concede, as I said, that whether it is fair for content to be exclusive is a fair debate and there are many arguments and counter-arguments that could be had regarding that point. But what annoys me in this case, is that people are singling out a single game and getting extremely indignant about it. Fine, get indignant, but direct your indignation at the issue of console-exclusive DLC in its entirety, not just at one single game.

    A lot of the people moaning that this is not on PS3 would be the same people gloating if it was PS3 exclusive. And the sad thing is that we would be having exactly the same discussion if it were the other way round. Elements of both sides are just as bad as each other, and it comes down to the same fanboyism that has driven playground arguments for years.

  • VandelayIndustries #96 1 year ago

    I love the language used here, "a present" to original fans :D I just wish they'd cut the bullshit and be straight about it. We all know Microsoft paid them off and so what? Really. I also find it funny that this prologue has been very successful and could have easily made them more money had they released it on both PC & PS3 too. They got greedy and lost out for it.

    I also find the old notion of fans being platform specific funny. I played through Dead Space on the 360 and I'll be buying Dead Space 2 on the PS3 (It'll be better value). I find it so simple minded that an exec would believe that because I played Game 1 on Platform A that I would be locked into playing Game 2 for Platform A , it just doesn't always work that way.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 23:23

  • Bigmac1910 #97 1 year ago

    @darkmorgado

    You seem a little high on your 360, and I haven't seen any PS3 fanboy comments in this thread, yet you keep on accusing PS3 owners of being just that. The fact is that Capcom has handled the situation really badly, and it's not the first time this gen towards PS3 owners. Also, as a gamer, I feel that if you are going to release a multi platform game then all content should be accessible to the platforms it being released on. Yes that goes for Mafia II as well.

    So pretty please, with sugar on top, stop defending bad business practices, cause you may end up on the wrong side of it one day.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/10 @ 23:35

  • NewbieZilla #98 1 year ago

    PS3lol.

  • Hei #99 1 year ago

    Inafune is the worst in every aspects

  • man.the.king #100 1 year ago

    @arcam

    "It would be nice if we could debate the real reasoning behind these industry decisions. "

    You could, but then you stand the chance of being dubbed a "Sony fanboy", especially on Eurogamer :)

  • darkmorgado #101 1 year ago

    You seem a little high on your 360

    I have all consoles. 360, Wii, PS3, PSP, DSi, PS2, PS1, GC, Snes, MD, GBA...

    my point was being made in terms of being against stupid console bias, not in favour of it.

  • darkmorgado #102 1 year ago

    I feel that if you are going to release a multi platform game then all content should be accessible to the platforms it being released on.

    I agree, but that is not the point I was making in my post.

  • darkmorgado #103 1 year ago

    So pretty please, with sugar on top, stop defending bad business practices
    Again, I am not. I even, quite clearly state in my post that are grounds for a discussion surrounding console-exclusive DLC. I made it explicitly clear that my grievance was with people who were singling out this case but had no problem with other exclusive DLC. I really couldn't have made that post any clearer than it is, so with respect I am finding it hard to see your issue.

  • Bigmac1910 #104 1 year ago

    @darkmorgado

    I guess since you accuse people of being fanboys of which there are none in this thread, you just come off as defensive in favour of the 360. Sorry if I misunderstood, but you are not nearly as clear as you think.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/10 @ 10:06

  • Sabreman64 #105 1 year ago

    I don't think PS3 owners are missing very much, to be quite honest. I bought Case Zero, and although it was enjoyable enough, I found it a little disappointing. I finished the game and got all the achievements within a day or so. It's an extremely short game, and there really isn't very much to do in that little town. I hope Case West has a bit more longevity than Case Zero.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/10 @ 19:49