Wallace and Sonic on XBLA tomorrow News

I like bargains but I hate Bejeweled. This one has me very conflicted.

Sonic & Knuckles for me.

I'm very tempted by Sonic and Knuckles...although its Beatles Rock Band day too!

Puzzle Quest is a fantastic game - I'd advise anyone that can, to grab it.

Sonic & Knuckles, or Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

Still not Sonic CD though, is it...

I do love a good ampersand!

"Puzzle Quest is a fantastic game - I'd advise anyone that can, to grab it."

QFMFT

@viper_h

Sonic & Knuckles

(as the text clearly spells).

Sonic 3 is already available.

@altitude2k

No! Its Sonic & Knuckles. Can nobody read these days?

I like that you can connect it up to the other games, old school style. The game can only be played as Sonic 3 & Knuckles. But they ruined the menu's for Sonic 3, completely removing the save system and the level select..

That wasn't a huge issue for Sonic 3, but if there's no level select here they've pretty much ruined the game. You NEED to be able to go back to get all the emeralds, not to mention the fun of just being able to replay the game with Hyper Sonic unlocked from the start.

"The game can only be played as Sonic 3 & Knuckles. But they ruined the menu's for Sonic 3"

It doesn't really matter now, does it? You can save Sonic 3 anywhere; replay; do whatever.

@muscleblade I think you'll find what I said in my statement is actually correct. Therefore I can read, so you are in fact wrong. I'd rather be illiterate than be stupid...

Hadn't realised the four (as of tomorrow) Sonic games on the Marketplace were all 400pts each, had just assumed they were all gonna be 800pts. Good pricing i think!

Oh, and bravo Muscleblade for completely missing the idea of altitude2k's post!

@miiiguel
Save states don't allow you to go back with Chaos Emeralds in hand.

#Ampersand
#I love a party with a happy ampersand

@miiguel: The level select you unlock at the end of S3/S3&K lets you play any zone from whatever state the game is in- and is thus a necessity to unlock the 'really final' zone (Doomsday Zone) you can only get from having all the Chaos Emeralds *and* all the Super Emeralds.

What's odd about it? If you're paying for the Gold membership, you get better discounts than those that don't. It's hardly the first time this sort of thing has been put into practice.

@Darren:

Most people actually pay for the gaming services and such that Live has to offer, and discounts like this are a happy extra. I can't imagine anyone would pay for Live solely to get money off random games, as unless you end up buying everything they discount it's probably not worth the subscription.

I like these sales as I feel as if I'm getting something back from subscribing. I pay for Live regardless of deals like this, so when a game I want appears for half price it's a great opportunity to save some points.

I'm not sure I can resist an 800 point discount on Puzzle Quest though, despite my reservations about its mechanics.

@altitude2k

I thouth you asked a question already answered in the article. So stupid of me. I appologize .

For the sake of bringing the maths up, to make an overall saving by subscribing to Gold just for the discounts, you'd need to save a total of 4706 MSP over the year, assuming you're buying the £40/year cards at RRP.

That's only 90.5 MSP a week- so you'd only need to see one useful discount (as they're generally discounts of 400 MSP a time) every four or five weeks.

But yes, this is still a welcome added extra.

@muscleblade That's ok, you're forgiven. Isn't it great when people get along?

Wallace and Sonic sounds like a great game

@altitude2k

Agreed. Sonic CD should definently get an XBLA release too btw.

I don't see why anyone would want Sonic CD over Sonic 3 & Knuckles, which is easily the best in the series.
But yeah, having Sonic CD come sometime later would be great too.

"I don't see why anyone would want Sonic CD over Sonic 3 & Knuckles"

Me! For the single reason I've never played Sonic CD. :}

The reason people would want Sonic CD over Sonic & Knuckles is surely pretty obvious? In that if you owned a Mega Drive, the chances are if you've only played one of them, Sonic CD would be unplayed by a pretty huge majority.

Hate to tell you this, but I was of the same opinion of Sonic CD, until I finally played it on Sonic Gems Collection. Compared to S3&K it is a bit meh.

The save game function wasnt neccesary to get all the emeralds - it was perfectly possible to get them all on the first run through of Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Each act had 1-3 super rings. You just had to be good at the special stages.

Having picked up all three original games today having seen the price, i only played Sonic 3...and the 360 d-pad or stick is HORRIFIC for the bonus games :(

Fallen_Angel +1

Sonic CD's nice to have from a completionists perspective, but it sits in between Sonic and Sonic 2 chronologically, and seems more like an advert for the Mega CD than a serious or groundbreaking Sonic sequel.

In terms of quality, it'd say it's not as good as either Sonic or Sonic 2. The level design is awful. Too much stopping and faffing. The end of zone bosses are very poor, and the game is much too easy.

It does have some great gameplay ideas and some snazzy graphics, though. It's a cool game. The bonus stages could have been great, but they're way too jerky and fiddly to control - considering I was playing Mario Kart on my cousin's SNES in the years before picking this up. It's still a great candidate for an XBLA release, however, as all of the Sonic games were much better than most other platform games by default.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles combined is a fantastic example of the 90s platform game. It's marvellous. If you've not played Sonic 3, or Sonic & Knuckles, then wait and play them combined.

Excellent games.

@Hobo

I found exactly the same thing, really put me off the game as I thought not being able to get any emeralds would make it boring....

I must have kept trying the first stage in the bottom left corner of the first act though around 15 times then it suddenly clicked - you need to push the analogue stick whichever way you want to move quite firmly and allow for a slight lag to the movement applied to your character on the screen (i.e. move the direction before you get to the end of a square on the sphere).

Worked well.

^ Use the Streetfighter IV control pad.