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Valve: we don't worry about piracy News

PC News by Oli Welsh

30 May, 2008

At Valve's mini-summit on the state of PC gaming in Seattle today, president Gabe Newell revealed that the company is not concerned about the threat of piracy in the PC market.

Responding to a question from Rock Paper Shotgun, Newell said, "When you list the things that we worry about in our business, piracy is not one of them."

His sentiments run counter to those of many publishers, who feel piracy is killing their PC games business. But, said Newell, Valve's Steam distribution platform and the service it provides its customers protects it from that.

"We've got great facilities that make it very hard for people to pirate," he said. "And more importantly, the service value of having an ongiong relationship with us is high enough that it causes people to not be very interested in piracy. It's a dangerous thing to pirate one of our games because later on, when we catch you, you lose all your games, or you can't play multiplayer."

Earlier, Valve's Jason Holtman explained why the company felt the fear of rampant piracy in emerging markets such as Russia and China was misplaced, and the problem easily solved.

He noted how famous the Russian market was for its piracy, and explained that this was a direct result of games releasing there six months after North America and Western Europe. It wasn't just Steam's encryption technology, but the ease of simultaneous worldwide releases on the platform that solved the problem for Valve.

"We know that that's the major place where this rampant piracy myth comes from," Holtman said. "Rampant piracy is just unserved customers.

"Russians have money, Russians like to play games and Russians have PCs. They love going to stores and not having to use Bittorrent sties."

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tenma
30/05/08 @ 03:25
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good. :|

/goes back to pirating off his russian PC
timberwolf
30/05/08 @ 04:08
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hmm... so you don't care because alot of your product isn't physical and can be deleted or locked down by you on a whim... great.
ChrisOTR
30/05/08 @ 04:11
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Oli: Thanks for all this info. However, as I've alluded in the other two threads, I think you should be asking Valve this question:

"What measures has Valve put in place to prevent all this DRM and anti-piracy technology from locking out legitimate consumers from playing games they bought in five years time, on a different PC, and for argument's sake, if Valve were no longer in business, and therefore Steam stops running?"
menschenfracht
30/05/08 @ 05:38
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if Steam stops running, the world will end
JonFE
30/05/08 @ 06:12
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Chris, I'm sure that it has been said that on the occasion of Valve going bust, they will first free the games (not sure whether that is *their* games or *all* steam games) from authentication restrictions. Given that this will not happen for the foreseeable future, their word is all they can give you right now; I cannot blame you if you think that's not enough, though...
Tyronne
30/05/08 @ 06:35
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I do not like using sties, I prefer a gate.
L0cky
30/05/08 @ 07:42
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It's a Freudian typo, someone needs to tidy up their office!
retrend
30/05/08 @ 08:01
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not surprising this is valves view. those with decent products dont need to worry about piracy. its just those people shoving out crap that people wouldnt buy who have to worry, you know, like crysis
DaveLev
30/05/08 @ 08:02
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hmmm... why everyone so bitter? steam is a great tool that i've used for many years, yes it used to be a pile of **** but now its great and it does help against piracy. I agree with gabe and hope valve has a long life!
jamespo
30/05/08 @ 08:05
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Very satisfying seeing a peasant kicked out of Team Fortress for invalid Steam ID
ChrisOTR
30/05/08 @ 09:00
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JonFE: I actually genuinely believe that would be their intention (to "unlock" things if they disappeared)... But who's going to do that exactly? The guy turning off the office lights? ;)
kestral
30/05/08 @ 09:03
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I think he's right. And steam seems to get it right, providing benefits for both customers and pubishers /developers. Just wondering how other publishers think about Steam and the control Valve has over it, is there some kind of Steam Working Group where publishers can discuss and have input on Steam for the benefit of the whole industry? I'd guess that would be essential for industry wide support - but it might already exist of course ;)

The bit about removing all your games surely is just scare tactics, imagine paying money for a product and then them taking it off you that would leave Steam userless within a few months if they do that too often.
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spidermanalf
30/05/08 @ 09:31
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"Russians have money, Russians like to play games and Russians have PCs. They love going to stores and not having to use Bittorrent sties."

Where are these Bittorrent sties? Farms?
spammage
30/05/08 @ 10:26
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The future of pc software distribution and probably consoles eventually.
bad09
30/05/08 @ 11:02
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"Rampant piracy is just unserved customers"

Exactly. Those in the all entertainment mediums need to realize that stamping out piracy will not necessarily result in more sales.

Most people pirate stuff because they can't pay not won't pay. Of course there is a minority that just won't pay but have the means.

I have always said sell it cheaper and sell more is the best way to beat piracy.
Vasenor
30/05/08 @ 11:58
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It's not only can't/won't pay. Many of the places where piracy is rampant the official version are barely distributed or otherwise hard to find. I'd say that his "not being served" comment refers more to that.

Heck, just look at the Eurogamer TV special they had this week where they tried to find legit games in Shanghai...
hiddenranbir
30/05/08 @ 12:50
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While it's good their not treating piracy as the big boogy man, they're a bit full of themselves. Typical Valve!

canuter
30/05/08 @ 14:14
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"if we catch you, you lose all your games, or you can't play multiplayer."

That's why I don't buy games from Valve. Don't like the idea of THEM having the power to prevent me from accessing MY GAMES.
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30/05/08 @ 17:53
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@canuter

Well if you don't pirate games then what's the problem?

Personally I love Steam. It's cheap, quick, easy and is, in my opinion, more permanent than physical media. I've got games on Steam stretching back 10 years (HL1 etc), that I've long ago lost the cd key and discs for.

A one time registration on Steam entitles you to a lifetime guarantee that you can download and play the game on any PC anywhere.
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craziii
30/05/08 @ 21:23
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why bash a guy with a good business sense? how many of you guys prefer GFWL over steam? I doubt any of you guys are dumb enough for that. everything the gold GFWL offers, steam gives you for free. JonFE's post just free up the last bit of worry we ever have with steam, which is what happens if valve ever goes bust. steam was S*** when it came out, but it is pretty nice as of right now I dare say.

if you got locked out for pirating, blame no one but your self.
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Russians have money?

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