Resistance 2 Review

By Dan Whitehead Published 5 November, 2008

Fight the good fight.

Version tested: PlayStation 3

In the great console wars of the 21st century, the exclusive first-person shooter is an elite paratrooper regiment, pushing deep behind enemy lines, paving the way for the long-term advances, claiming back enemy territory and banging the propaganda drum every step of the way. Resistance: Fall of Man, launched with the PS3, wasn't quite up to the job. It was a good soldier, but not an inspirational leader.

So when you fire up Resistance 2, you may find yourself checking the box to make sure you've got the right disc. It's so different to its predecessor in so many beneficial ways that it's almost an entirely new game. Picking up the story of Nathan Hale, a US soldier fighting back against the mutated Chimera menace in an alternate history where World War II never happened, it wastes no time transporting him from the rubble of Britain, via an unscheduled stop in Iceland, to the new battlefront: America.

It's a change of scenery that seems to have inspired developer Insomniac. As amusing as it was to begin in Grimsby and Manchester, there was always a suspicion these alien suburban locations didn't click with the Californian devs. The result was a grey game, made up of monochrome rat-runs through scenery that - cathedrals and other controversial landmarks aside - could have come from any documentary about the Blitz. Here you're dropped into rich, realistic environments that immediately impress. The detail level is high, and everything - from incidental objects to character models - is more alive and immersive. These new HD vistas, populated by characters that talk and move like real people, reminded me almost straight away of Half-Life 2.

Control, too, has been completely overhauled. Primary and secondary fire is now mapped to the right shoulder buttons, with iron-sight aiming on L1 and L2 pulling double duty for both crouching (a quick tap) and sprinting (hold it down). Response feels faster, and the game's pace has increased to match the slicker interface. Weapon selection has also changed, with Hale now restricted to just two firearms at a time. Even the health system has been revised, although this is disappointing, since the original game's traditional health bar, divided into separately recharging quarters, was one of its best ideas. It's a shame to see it replaced with yet another encroaching red mist to warn of impending death that dissipates after a few seconds' rest.

'Resistance 2' Screenshot 1

Better than a cloudy day in Grimsby? You'd better believe it.

It's traditional, of course, for shooters to showcase their evolution through new enemies and weapons, and Resistance doesn't disappoint on that front. In terms of new firepower, you get a well-balanced selection of human and Chimeran guns to play with, any of which will get you out of a tricky spot. Mainstays such as the Carbine, shotgun and sniper rifle all return, slightly tweaked, while some of the more popular Chimeran weapons also reprise their role. The Bullseye, for shooting around corners, is back along with the Auger, which can shoot through obstacles.

It's the new weapons that prove most interesting, however, and Resistance 2 can claim a special prize for having a desirable pistol. A powerful Magnum, it not only kills smaller foes with one shot, but the explosive bullets can also be detonated remotely. Given the game sometimes throws an astonishing number of enemies at you, it's enormous fun to plug one of the advancing horde then take out others by detonating the corpse. The splicer is similarly fun, launching saw blades that zoom and ricochet around, homing in on multiple enemies and shearing heads and limbs. The Wraith, meanwhile, is a powerful mini-gun that tears through crowds and deploys a handy forcefield. Whenever you run dry on one gun, you never feel sorry to have to swap it for another.

The gameplay has also adapted to this focus on mass destruction, showing off the robust muscle of the graphics engine in the process. While the campaign mode doesn't skimp on the tactical encounters that defined the original, pitting you against well-covered squads of enemies and forcing you to pick them off slowly but surely, it also draws inspiration from the manic shooters of the past for cathartic sequences. One memorable fragfest comes in an eerily deserted Californian town. Alien pods distort quaint Americana, and the whole level has a classic B-movie feel to it, as the pods begin to hatch, spitting easily-killed but fast and ferocious mutated zombies at you. Eventually, seeking refuge in the town's cinema, you're faced with a heaving auditorium. There are easily thirty or more enemies, all skittering and clawing at you, and the mixture of panic and exhilaration as you carve a path to safety through their mottled, decaying bodies is far more thrilling than anything in the first game.

'Resistance 2' Screenshot 2

Enemies are, on the whole, much larger and meaner than before. Luckily, you've got the improved arsenal to deal with them.

Other enemies are less successful, though. Furies are indestructible aquatic creatures that patrol submerged areas killing anyone who lingers in the water - a fairly crude way of keeping you on track. The same is true of the chameleon monsters that suddenly lunge towards you, shrouded in a Predator-style cloaking device. They're easily killed, but with little warning and another one-hit kill mechanic attached, they feel like a cheap shot used to strike up lazy scares, at odds with the more balanced and thoughtful design elsewhere.

For all its ability to surprise you with masses of enemies, the graphics engine doesn't always hold up under pressure either. There's a fair amount of clipping - one defeated Titan ended up half embedded in a warehouse before exploding messily - and it's reasonably common to find a lone Chimera stuck in a corner, obliviously trying to walk through a solid object. Such hiccupy moments tend to stand out all the more because of the extremely high graphical standard in general, and if you can forgive such lapses you're left with one of the best-looking games on the PS3.

The campaign mode is hefty in size, at least for the genre, offering around ten hours for an averagely skilled player on normal difficulty. It's well-paced, and throws up plenty of varied scenarios to test your mettle. The story feels somewhat perfunctory, though no worse than any of its rivals, and even the predictable excursions inside enemy ships are more bearable than similar levels in other games, even if the sweeping alien architecture may leave you wondering if you're fighting the Chimera or the Covenant. Speaking of which, Resistance 2 is arguably more cohesive than any of Halo's single-players, and while the game never quite matches Bungie's highs, it never plunges to the same depths either. Even in a battle against an alien swarm that some will peg as a Flood rip-off, the challenge is more balanced, the outcome more interesting and the integration into the wider gameplay more satisfying.

Then again, Halo never got its highest marks for the solo campaign, but for the huge strides it made in first popularising and later defining console FPS multiplayer. Resistance 2 brings its own innovations to the table, though they're more evolutionary in nature. Insomniac's boast of increasing the number of simultaneous players for competitive games from 40 to 60 could well fall into a pit of PR bluster, were it not that the team has obviously considered ways to balance that many players rather than just bolstering the net code to allow more people in. Rather than having sixty people running around at random, these large-scale matches have their own dedicated mode - Skirmish - and players are split into a number of competing squads. Each squad has objectives to meet; objectives that are also being attempted by a rival team. So rather than one giant battle, you get a series of smaller confrontations all taking place on the same map.

It's either a stroke of genius or a fiendish cheat, depending on how you view the world of online play. Certainly, depending on the map and objectives, there will be times when you won't even notice that there are dozens of other people elsewhere in the same game. When the combinations click, however, the result is quietly impressive - a traditional and accessible multiplayer that convinces you you're taking part in a larger war. It probably won't be enough to impress Warhawk fans, but in the realms of FPS it's a shrewd idea.

'Resistance 2' Screenshot 3

A Titan boss in co-op play, and this four-man team wisely opts to attack from all sides rather than face its powerful beam weapon.

Resistance 2 saves its most innovative ideas for co-operative play, however. The traditional answer would be to let players go through the single-player side-by-side, but instead, up to eight players join forces and take on a series of miniature campaigns that run alongside the main story, suggesting some of the other events that are occurring while Hale does his hero thing. There are six maps, drawn from this game and the original, with a set number of different objectives attached to each. The game randomly selects and shuffles three of these objectives for each game, throwing in some boss encounters to spice things up further.

You choose from three classes - Soldier, Spec Ops and Medic - with each relying on the other two for success. Soldiers are tough, well-armed and can use their Wraith mini-guns to create mobile shields to protect other players as you push forwards. Medics can heal wounded teammates, but rather than removing them from active duty the game allows them to join in the combat as well - drawing health from enemies to heal themselves. Spec Ops troops can fling fresh ammo to other players but also deal in heavy damage, making them the frontline choice for larger boss battles.

Each also has an optional "Berserk" - a gameplay buff activated by filling a meter with enough kills - and these offer benefits, like Prototype Ammo, which allows Spec Ops players to dish out extra-powerful ammunition; Ring of Life, which creates a healing circle around a Medic; and Overload, which allows a Soldier to take enemies with him by exploding upon death in a manner similar to Call of Duty's Martyr perk.

'Resistance 2' Screenshot 4

Meanwhile, on Tatooine, Jabba the Hutt is solemnly sticking "lost pet" posters on lampposts.

Each class earns experience based on successful execution of their roles, as well as completed objectives and defeated enemies, and this then plays into a simplified levelling system. New abilities and Berserks are unlocked as you advance through the ranks, while "grey tech" retrieved from fallen enemies can be used to purchase new armour and weaponry, which customises your character's appearance. This currency can be carried from one class to another, so you can use a successful Soldier character to build up a Medic on the same account without tiresome grinding each time.

It's a simple system, elegantly executed, and by keeping the classes to just three it creates an instinctive symbiosis between players. One class cannot succeed alone, so working together is your most attractive option simply because it works. The only potential downside is that you will, inevitably, run out of combinations of maps and objectives sooner or later. Some may also mourn the lack of a traditional co-op mode. It'll take you a decent amount of time to explore all the co-op options, however, and even more if you want to level up each class and earn all the bonuses, medals and other rewards for good play.

Overall, multiplayer is the satisfying other half to a formidable package, and Resistance 2 is precisely the sort of exclusive game that the PS3 needs. Improving tenfold on its predecessor in almost every area, it not only belongs on the shopping list of existing Resistance fans, but those who were underwhelmed with the original will also want to check it out, and then fight for it on the internet. It's the way of the warrior.

9 / 10

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About Dan Whitehead

Dan has been writing for Eurogamer since 2006 and specialises in RPGs, shooters and games for children. His bestest game ever is Julian Gollop's Chaos.

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Comments (267) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • TheBiGW #1 3 years ago

    Not as good as Fallout 3 then

  • merkdot #2 3 years ago

    resistance is futile

  • GamerG #3 3 years ago

    EG Xbox Bias Confirmed?

    Oh wait.....

  • #4 3 years ago

    different genres you dickwad.

  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #5 3 years ago

    OMG they turned the last score upside down!
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 14:05

  • Darren #6 3 years ago

    I know I shouldn't have but I jumped straight to the score before reading the review.

    Woohoo! Nice!

    And doesn't someone on here have a PSP to eat? I hope he enjoys the crunchy bits! ;)

  • drumbaby #7 3 years ago

    Only as good as GOW2, eh? Lame.

  • Widge #8 3 years ago

    Oh shit, I said I'd eat my PSP!

  • dr_faulk #9 3 years ago

    Shock! I genuinely thought this looked boring from the E3 showing.

    But what would a blind man know about videogames?

  • Steroyd #10 3 years ago

    3 minutes late EG, I'm dissapointed.

  • Kingofnothin #11 3 years ago

    Interesting might get this after I'm finished with LBP.... would be a nice change of pace I guess!

  • chessboxer #12 3 years ago

    As good as Gears of War 2 and LittleBigPlanet though. Obviously "people" (I use that term loosely) will see a 9/10 as a fail.

  • Artemis_Matsas #13 3 years ago

    Good stuff!!!

  • Moonprince #14 3 years ago

    Better than HALO!!!

    lol

  • the_dudefather #15 3 years ago

    @Mentalist(air)
    10\6?

  • Beano #16 3 years ago

    9!?!?!

    Surprised...

  • chris_ace #17 3 years ago

    Post deleted at 11:55:13 13-12-2011

  • DAN.E.B #18 3 years ago

    as good as! better than! not as good as! ect ect.....................

  • Benno #19 3 years ago

    I thought it was rubbish, surprised at the nine.

  • bad09 #20 3 years ago

    KZ2. That is all....... ;)

  • Razz #21 3 years ago

    Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a PS3 now. That is if you can afford one, I was lucky enough to get one for free. Christmas is around the corner, beg and plead like there is no tomorrow! :))

  • andywilkie35 #22 3 years ago

    very surprised this got 9 - the first game was shit IMO

    too many better games to play to warrant buying this, I'll pick it up in a years time when its £4.99

  • SPKRFCKR #23 3 years ago

    this should be good enough to last until Killzone 2 comes out!

  • DAN.E.B #24 3 years ago

    Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a PS3 now.

    really?

  • GamerG #25 3 years ago

    @ Razz

    There is plenty too keep people occupied on the sub £200 consoles, the PS3 at £300 before games and accessories is still an unnecessary luxury if you have a Xbox 360, I mean its not as though Xbox 360 doesn't have some top shooters coming its way is there? Gears2, COD5, Left for dead, Dead Space, etc

  • Widge #26 3 years ago

    Massively surprised, I had written this one off way earlier in the year. Time to do some serious thinking. Interesting to see the HL2 comparison because I thought that about the first game... almost as if someone had mashed together HL2 and Day Of Defeat.

    When is this out again?

  • HardCoreGamer999 #27 3 years ago

    fair review for a excellent game

  • drumbaby #28 3 years ago

    Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a 360 now.

    really?

  • Cylinder #29 3 years ago

    Here's hoping for a PC release!

  • bad09 #30 3 years ago

    "Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a PS3 now. That is if you can afford one, I was lucky enough to get one for free. Christmas is around the corner, beg and plead like there is no tomorrow! :))"

    Completely agree, from MGS onwards I'm 100% converted. Not sure if I could could live without my 360 just yet, but not sure I could live without my PS3 either now! Still PS2less (bastards!) but worth the money now IMO (and about bloody time too!).

    / Goes back to LBP
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 14:17

  • Garulon #31 3 years ago

    PS3 has good game shock! It's a shame you can't play through the whole campaign in co-op mode though. That's disappointing.

    MY teeth are braced for the Banjo Kazooe review. The demo was absolutely dire.

  • Darren #32 3 years ago

    Great review and by Dan Whitehead too, one of my favourite EG writers because I find his reviews trustworthy and usually spot on! :)

    No mention of the A.I. focusing on only you though that was mentioned in a couple of other reviews I've read - it's not noticeable then? How good is the A.I. overall, is it worse or better than other games in the genre?

  • muscleblade #33 3 years ago

    "Not as good as Fallout 3 then"

    Not as good as the 360 version of Fallout 3 you mean. The PS3 version is not as good sadly.

    I knew R2 was going to be great. And i love the fact that it did turn out to be this good. The best exclusive action game for the PS3 for sure.

  • Darren #34 3 years ago

    cthulhu_steev - "How the hell can you check the score then read the review? The text matters more than that arbitrary number pinned at the bottom, Shirley?"

    Of course it does but I just couldn't resist a quick peak, mainly because I wanted to see whether Widge would be having his PSP for tea or not! ;)

  • Bartacus #35 3 years ago

    See the PS3 is OK at playing games after all; I'm off out to Argos to pick mine up with LBP, GT5 prologue , & accessories pack for £299.

  • Widge #36 3 years ago

    Didn't Uncharted come in at about 10 hours play? It took me months to finish that game off. Not via excessive difficulty or anything, but just because I can sit all evening and weekends just soaking up games. Nothing wrong with something coming in at 10 hours.

    Thankfully I can do lunchtime gaming on my laptop or I'd never get through anything like Mass Effect or Fallout 3.

  • muscleblade #37 3 years ago

    @heddbogg

    Its easy to see from your comments that you are not the original headbog/blig merk. If you are you certaintly have become a smarter person.

  • Kenshin001 #38 3 years ago

    Genuinely surprised. Insomniac have obviously worked hard to improve on the first and it seems to have paid off. Played a bit of the beta and it was great fun but looking forward more to the SP. Dan, do the Cloven make an appearance in the sequel or are they mysteriously absent yet again?

  • Razz #39 3 years ago

    Bah! I have to wait untill 28/11 to play it. ;_;

  • zuljin #40 3 years ago

    Awesome! Gears + this now means I'm not leaving the house in the month of December...

  • Tomo #41 3 years ago

    Nice score. I was completely wrong about this one then. Looked completely generic at the Expo, although I didn't get to play it.

  • Rash' #42 3 years ago

    kingofnothin, LOL!!! " ... after i'm finished with LBP". Don't expect that to happen anytime soon!

    Most surprising thing about this review is the high score. Oh, teh bias! As Beano continues to point out EG's reviews have been shockingly inconsistent. I'll hold out for Edge's review. They ripped it apart in their last preview.

    Widge, do want some salt with that PSP?!! ;o)

  • #43 3 years ago

    "...30 or more enemies on screen at one time..."

    Dont mean for this to sound trollish but how many does GOW2 manage? Im a big fan of lots of on screen action, its a real immersion puller for me.

  • Gazza_UK #44 3 years ago

    Woahahahahahahahahahaha

    shit, just ordered COD5.. bought Far Cry 2 and Fifa before that.. it is right for me to buy yet another game before christmas!!!

  • Darren #45 3 years ago

    Considering that both Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War took me less than eight hours to complete, I'd say a ten hour campaign is decent, particularly if the first game is anything to go by as that was a very nice length IMO. I certainly didn't feel shortcharged like with Gears for example. Usually I can add 30-40% to that figure too for me to finish a game! :)

  • dr_faulk #46 3 years ago

    @ DanSolo

    Hmmmm.... owning every console BUT the PS3.... it's still a bit pricey...

  • tonynibbles #47 3 years ago

    Better than MGS4?

    I dont think so.

  • Darren #48 3 years ago

    I might be wrong but I've a feeling that the Treyarch developed Call of Duty: World at War is going to be this year's "big" FPS disappointment, especially if the mixed comments on the online beta are anything to go by.

  • spazmo #49 3 years ago

    Could have scored 11/10 for all i care. Just sooooo tired of shooters. LBP and Valkyria Chronicles for me.

  • WiseNail #50 3 years ago

    Great to see both this and Gears getting excellent reviews. Here's hoping Left 4 Dead and Call of Duty: World at War can continue the trend.

    Has there ever been a better time for gaming than 2007/08?

  • Thunderbolt #51 3 years ago

    Widge,

    I'm looking forward to seeing that video of you eating your PSP on youtube shortly.

    Mmm, crunchy

    :)

  • nbnz #52 3 years ago

    Nice review and nice score. Can't wait till the 28th...

  • DanWhitehead #53 3 years ago

    Dan, do the Cloven make an appearance in the sequel or are they mysteriously absent yet again?

    They're mentioned - the Russian scientist who created them plays a large role in the story - but they're not actually in the game.

  • Aretak #54 3 years ago

    The mutiplayer beta is truly excellent. I loved the first Resistance's online play, and R2's is even better. The sense of chaos in 60-player Team Deathmatch is wonderful.

  • Weezer #55 3 years ago

    Excellent. Will wait for my free copy to arrive.

    /waits

  • muscleblade #56 3 years ago

    PS3 has this and LBP.

    XBOX 360 has Gears 2, Fable 2

    Every multplatform game will probably be better on the 360.

    And i almost forgot LEFT4DEAD.

    The competition between the 2 HD consoles is closer this year though.

  • PearOfAnguish #57 3 years ago

    "Furies are indestructible aquatic creatures that patrol submerged areas killing anyone who lingers in the water"

    FURRIES. Do they yiff you to death?

    "I might be wrong but I've a feeling that the Treyarch developed Call of Duty: World at War is going to be this year's "big" FPS disappointment, especially if the mixed comments on the online beta are anything to go by."

    That would be Far Cry 2. Nobody can be expecting a Treyarch developed CoD to be much good.



  • michaelius #58 3 years ago

    EG Xbox Bias Confirmed?

    More like casual gamer/shooter bias confirmed.

    Seriously even those RPGs who get get more than 8 usually have heavy shooter or slashing elements - Fable 2, Fallout 3 , ME .

    I haven't seen any proper RPG or strategy go over 8 here for a long time.

  • GamerG #59 3 years ago

    You see PS3 owners your games can get good scores if they merit it, y'know just because lots of Fanboys on forums tell you how much better your games are than on 360 doesn't make it so.

  • Widge #60 3 years ago

    I reckon Dan had this pencilled in as an 8 and changed it to provide PSP food amusement to all

  • muscleblade #61 3 years ago

    "nsidering that both Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War took me less than eight hours to complete"

    On the easy difficultys right? Gears on Insane and COD4 on veteran is another story my friend.

  • Gazza_UK #62 3 years ago

    @ Darren

    hopefully, at its worst, COD5 will be COD4 in a WW2 skin, but then again people would see that as very dissapointing i guess, seeing as its not really trying anything new. Apart from the zombies!

  • iago71 #63 3 years ago

    OMG ....Yet another hole waiting to be burnt in my wallet - Christ..... I actually dont remember when the harvest was this fruitful and with such great product on offer all at the same time!

  • DAN.E.B #64 3 years ago

    @ dr faulk
    i didnt write that it was a reply

  • muscleblade #65 3 years ago

    @simakperrce

    Im not a troll moron.
    Wait for the face off then. The game they played was the 360 version. Kristan said so himself in the comments section. The websites that have tested both gave different scores for the 2 versions.

  • Darren #66 3 years ago

    It's been a good year for the PS3 really... Devil May Cry 4 (multiformat granted but I preferred the PS3 version), Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (a tech demo for sure but still pretty decent), the superb Metal Gear Solid 4, MLB 08: The Show, Siren: Blood Curse, WipEout HD, LittleBigPlanet and now Resistance 2, a nice mix of genres there. Oh and add in the improved MotorStorm: Pacific Rift is that's your "thing"... most of the major bases are covered as far as exclusives go. I only really bought my PS3 for those exclusives so I'm delighted. I think the PS3 is a great all-round console and compliments my Xbox 360 nicely. That's more than I can say for my increasingly underused Wii however! :)
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 14:53

  • dsmx #67 3 years ago

    The online beta of WAW is disappointing to me while the maps are a bit better offering more places to fire from and are a bit bigger in general. The weapons are a let down mp40 does more damage than a tommy gun which makes no sense the rifles aren't very powerful either even though they fired huge bullets back then with the cost being high recoil. It just seems that they were trying to copy COD4's multiplayer in a WW2 setting and that isn't needed as we already have that game it's called COD4. Really the best I can say about it is that it's competent but nothing that a mod to COD4 wouldn't of achieved.

  • Widge #68 3 years ago

    If I had it, I would munch through Gears on Normal (or whatever), enjoy the 8 or so hours and then move onto the next game or the multiplayer. I'm sure R2 will have greater difficulty levels for those who like it, but my memories of playing through Halo 2 on the highest diffulty was that it wasn't enjoyment. Made the game longer I'm sure but the pay off was no fun.

    As I say though, no problem with games about 10 hours long.

  • mikeck #69 3 years ago

    Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a PS3 now. That is if you can afford one, I was lucky enough to get one for free. Christmas is around the corner, beg and plead like there is no tomorrow! :))

    Indeed. I'm lucky enough to have both a PS3 and 360, and whilst I've owned the 360 longer and played it more, I'm on it less these days (that's also got something to do with a little PC title by the name of Warhammer Online), but also because of the stellar titles that are coming out on PS3. I still don't prefer one console to the other, but I feel in order to enjoy a lot of the great exclusives coming out, it's wise to own both.

    Killzone 2 was a great hoot in beta, so I'm desperate for the full release, and the same can be said for Resistance 2...also LBP is out today... (as well as having Dead Space, Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3 to complete) so let the good times roll! That being said GOW2 is also on my list for the 360 at the end of the week :p
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 14:46

  • Ignatius_Cheese #70 3 years ago

    So, Xbox 360 has Gears 2 and PS3 has Resistance 2. Both good systems, both good games.

    This comments thread shouldn't run longer than 100... :o)

  • Gazza_UK #71 3 years ago

    This is the nicest thread EVER!

    /hugs everyone

  • Aggesan #72 3 years ago

    @muscleblade
    "On the easy difficultys right? Gears on Insane and COD4 on veteran is another story my friend."

    Yes, just like the Resistance 2 of course will be longer on harder setting. You annoying little trollish boy.

  • Kenshin001 #73 3 years ago

    They're mentioned - the Russian scientist who created them plays a large role in the story - but they're not actually in the game.

    Shame, was hoping they would crop up. Would add some spice to the mix, but maybe in R3 then. Cheers for the reply.

  • zuljin #74 3 years ago

    @evilfoxhound
    "Saying that though, the average score on Metacritic isn't that good."

    Thats the users review of it right? I noticed that on Gears 2 the other day, 3.5 average review? Based on over 3500 reviews? Do not understand...

  • The-Bodybuilder #75 3 years ago

    >"I might be wrong but I've a feeling that the Treyarch developed Call of Duty: World at War is going to be this year's "big" FPS disappointment, especially if the mixed comments on the online beta are anything to go by. "

    Why would it be suprising? It's by Treyarch, afterall.
    As for this? I am a bit suprised, but what's even more suprising is that this got/is getting less hype than KZ2. Insomniac are a much better team, with a better history of quality.....unlike guerilla.

  • Beano #76 3 years ago

    @cthulhu_steev : Just wait till the 13 year old Xbots and PS3-fanboys get home from school ... ;)
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 14:52

  • Darren #77 3 years ago

    @muscleblade "Considering that both Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War took me less than eight hours to complete"

    On the easy difficultys right? Gears on Insane and COD4 on veteran is another story my friend.

    True but just because it takes you three times as long to complete a level, doesn't actually make the campaign itself any longer IMO. It's still the same five shortish Acts, they're just harder to get through. Resistance felt like a much larger game to me as there was more variety and more levels. Maybe it wasn't but it felt twice as big as Gears of Wars campaign and took me a good 15 hours to finish off. That's why I said I was happy with Dan saying R2 has a 10 hour campaign, that's likely to take me longer to get through.

    To be honest, I've always thought that difficulty levels in FPSs were wasted in that replaying the game doesn't give you anything new to see or allow you to take a different route through the levels. They don't even randomise enemy placement for goodness sakes so you know what is coming and when on a second playthrough. If they did then there'd be more reason to replay these kinds of games. As it is I feel a lengthy campaign is a must although there's a danger that they can be *too* long and you'll grow bored of them before the end. Hopefully R2 like the first game has the length just right.

  • Widge #78 3 years ago

    RE: Metacritic. Basically the 360 Attack Force are marking down PS3 exclusives while the SDF are marking down 360 exclusives.

    Its all really worthwhile.

  • muscleblade #79 3 years ago

    "Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a PS3 now"

    Even though i can afford both (i have two 360s). I dont have time to play all the games i really want to play on the 360 alone. I wouldnt have that problem if i only owned a PS3 though. No need for more than one format. And if i had to choose to spend my time on Gears 2, fable 2, R2, L4D and LPB i would have picked Gears 2, L4D and Fable 2 anyway. Ive also bought Dead Space and according to EG the 360 version is superior. so there. PS3 is getting better and better though.
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 14:54

  • butler` #80 3 years ago

    Finally a reason to actually take my PS3 off the shelf.

  • krudd #81 3 years ago

    Well I preodered this today, and will be collecting it launch day I suppose! But sure I won't get to play until christmas!! I'm hoping for 7 of my friends to not have played this to death by then! I love my co-op I do!

  • Widge #82 3 years ago

    I know its not an FPS, but I believe the harder difficulties on MGS4 placed more guards on the map and erratic patrol routes...

  • Xerx3s #83 3 years ago

    "Seriously. There's no reason why true gamers shouldn't own a PS3 now. That is if you can afford one, I was lucky enough to get one for free."

    Assuming that this comes from the 'you must play all good games' sentiment. Money has never been an issue but I still don't own one. I've always had one console until one year before the end of a generation, that has suited me just fine. I don't play games just to play good games, I play good games to entertain myself. You can do that perfectly well just owning a pc, 360 or ps3.
    I have enough time to play roughly one game every two months. I've bought 5 games over the past 2 months and some more to come. If you want to own more than one machine, good for you but I've never felt the need nor had the time.

  • Stormflood #84 3 years ago

    I liked R1, but I wasn't that interested in a sequel. Seeing EG hand over a 9 is quite a shock, and I may just have to make a purchase...

  • The_Game_Guy #85 3 years ago

    "it wastes no time transporting him from the rubble of Britain, via an unscheduled stop in Iceland, to the new battlefront: America."

    Strike 1.

    "The campaign mode is hefty in size, at least for the genre, offering around ten hours for an averagely skilled player on normal difficulty."

    Strike 2.

    "Resistance 2 saves its most innovative ideas for co-operative play, however."

    STEERRRRIIKEEE 3 - your outta here!

    'NO SALE'

  • Apologie #86 3 years ago

    For the person who said to be hoping for a PC release, forget about it... insomniac work for Sony, and RFOM 1 and 2 are Ps3 exclusives... this is a great game, AAA all the way. The multiplayer will be insane and the camapaign co-op is pretty amazing too... instant buy for me.
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 15:02

  • muscleblade #87 3 years ago

    @Aggesan

    Of course its the same with R2 and most other games too. My point was that 10 hour games can last alot more than 10 hours if you like a good challenge. Idiot!!! And im not a boy btw. Too old for being that. And im definantly not a troll either or little for that matter LOL.
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 15:02

  • Moonprince #88 3 years ago

    fs muscle, give it a rest. You're making yourself look pathetic :/

  • hahayou #89 3 years ago

    10 hours = absolute bare minimum, it's not hefty. Do you really want to have to buy two games just so you can play all weekend?

    I'm talking in general, R2 obviously has worthwhile other modes to make up for it.

  • kangarootoo #90 3 years ago

    @Xerx3s

    "If you want to own more than one machine, good for you but I've never felt the need nor had the time" etc.

    Very good post.

  • Apologie #91 3 years ago

    RFM2 due to multiplayer alone will be played even months after release... GEars2 wont, nontheless, they are both good games.

  • Petulant_Radish #92 3 years ago

    “For the person who said to be hoping for a Ps3 release, forget about it”

    I thought it was on the PS3 to start with?

  • Fab4 #93 3 years ago

    I like the tag-line..."Fight the Good Fight". I was only listening to that Triumph song this afternoon :-)

    I personally didnt enjoy the MP beta..i'll see what my friends are doing with it before buying.

  • mazzl #94 3 years ago

    nice review for the ps3 owners. finally a great fps after cod4
    this will be a good winter :)

  • Darren #95 3 years ago

    @Widge - Yeah, that's true about MGS4 and that's one of the things that makes that game so good and value-packed. However, few FPSs adopt this route, they're usually predominantly linear, the exception being the recent Far Cry 2. However, with that game I'm finding the lack of a proper narrative to be a little offputting as usually it is the story that compells me to play FPS campaign's right through to the end.

  • Petulant_Radish #96 3 years ago

    “RFM2 due to multiplayer alone will be played even months after release... GEars2 wont, nontheless, they are both good games.”

    Wow, you really like making yourself look like an idiot don’t you, Gears 1 is still being played on Live now, and you think the second one with improved multiplayer and the new horde mode won’t be? You’re a silly little one aren’t you. I’m sure R2 will be played for a long time as well, but to think that Gears won’t be is laughable!

  • seedaripper #97 3 years ago

    muscleblade
    05-Nov-08 14:35:41

    PS3 has this and LBP.

    XBOX 360 has Gears 2, Fable 2

    Every multplatform game will probably be better on the 360.

    And i almost forgot LEFT4DEAD.

    The competition between the 2 HD consoles is closer this year though.

    this, LBP, naruto,valkryie,MS:pR.. etc...yes IT IS getting closer (surpassed)?
    And as for multiplatform games being developed the 'other' way round i.e dead space, burnout, mirrors edge..etc will the same be still said??? ;)

  • Charlie_Miso #98 3 years ago

    9 = flop

  • Apologie #99 3 years ago

    @Petulant_Radish

    Wow, you really like making yourself look like an idiot don’t you, Gears 1 is still being played on Live now

    ---------------------------

    Of course there are people still playing gears of war 1 MP... but that doesen't make the game a multiplayer phenomenon, it's actually very far form that.
    RFOM, Halo3 and COD will dominate in that matter... only fans of the series will prefer Gears MP to one of the previously mentioned.


    Oh and by the way the PS3 in 2008 have SOCOM, WIPEOUT HD, MGS4, RESISTANCE 2, LBP, MOTORSTORM 2 just to name a few...
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 15:15

  • GamerG #100 3 years ago

    10 hours gameplay with a multiplayer component is perfect

    quite frankly I dont want to trawl though 20 hours of campaign mode which would probably just be filler anyway

  • PearOfAnguish #101 3 years ago

    "I haven't seen any proper RPG or strategy go over 8 here for a long time."

    Define 'proper RPG'. Fallout 3 looks and plays an awful lot like an RPG.

  • Darren #102 3 years ago

    Weird how there's so much hate for the first Resistance game... checking Metacritic and GameRankings it averaged 86% which is be no means a score that suggests a bland, generic game. I get the feeling that it's the Europeans who didn't really like the game, the Americans in particular seemed to love it. I thought it was good too, easily deserving of a solid 8/10 from me. It wasn't particularly innovative, true, but the setting and story were intriguing and it was nice to actually play a good FPS exclusive on a platform that wasn't reknowned for good FPSs. I think that is what made it so memorable for me on the PS platform, good FPSs are ten a penny on the Xbox platform.
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 15:12

  • Petulant_Radish #103 3 years ago

    “Of course there are people still playing gears of war 1 MP... but that doesen't make the game a multiplayer phenomenon, it's actually very far form that.
    RFOM, Halo3 and COD will dominate in that matter... only fans of the series will prefer Gears MP to one of the previously mentioned.`”

    Well I think there are quite a few fans of it to make it a phenomenon, I understand that while it was number one on Live for over a year it didn’t have much competition, but I still think this will be up there in the top three for a long while, Horde alone sounds brilliant. That said though, I like it, so I would think that.

  • dudefella #104 3 years ago

    I thought the first one was dull, uninspired and uninteresting, so it's good to hear this one is apparently better. Still slim chance of me getting it, certainly any time soon, with all the releases around the corner. The game still needs a face, an identity, desperately, as there is nothing for me to "attach" to in Resistance. For all its machismo, Gears of War 2 has a very clear image, and it works for that game. Try to imagine it without Marcus Fenix and co. Resistance needs that hook.

  • Kryon #105 3 years ago

    @hedbag

    Didn't you start crying in the Fable 2 review calling the EG journos "a bunch of biased twats and that you wouldn't return to this site ever again"?

    Maybe you should apologise now for your ultimate spastication? Just a though.

  • Darren #106 3 years ago

    Pah, 89%, 94% what difference does it really make, it's still a "good" score? ;)

  • Gazza_UK #107 3 years ago

    1 point.. your joking right

  • jonsaan #108 3 years ago

    The first game was wonderful in co-op. Really good fun.

  • #109 3 years ago

    You guys do know Insomniac said to properly complete the game will take 420 hours. Thats all awards in co-op, online and single player.

  • Darren #110 3 years ago

    Dudefella - Gears of War is third person though whereas Resistance and its sequel are first person shooters. The difference is that for the most part you play a FPS as if it is you whereas with Gears you clearly controlling someone else so they need to be interesting since you're looking at them all the time. I don't think characterisation is essential for a FPS personally, I mean Half-Life's Gordon Freeman never speaks once, he's pretty much a non-entity really, but never stopped him being believable or prevented the story from being great. Master Chief is the exception for the Halo series but even then he never comes across as a real emotional person, mainly because for the majority of the game it is you playing through his eyes, he doesn't need to be, you provide the emotion! ;)

  • woodnotes #111 3 years ago

    ps3lol

  • muscleblade #112 3 years ago

    @seedaripper

    Naruto you say. I have tested the PS3 Naruto and the 360 Naruto sequel to the brilliant Rise of a Ninja. Trust me dude. Putting in Naruto as a positive for the PS3 was a mistake.

    And The 360 version of Dead Space is more polished than the PS3 version. See Face off. I bet the same will be the case with Mirrors Edge also. Dont worry though the PS3 isnt miles behind the 360 anymore. Its still behind. See: exclusives, multiplatform, online service, pricepoint. You love your PS3 and thats a good thing. Dont let anyone ruin that for you.

  • Otakoshka #113 3 years ago

    Gears of suck OWNED! Resistance FTW!

  • SeesThroughAll #114 3 years ago

    Fuck me.

    It really is better than the first one!

    \o/

  • WillyWanka #115 3 years ago

    #you ALLLLLLLLLLLL READYYY know how this WIIIIIIIIIIIL EEEEEEND#

  • muscleblade #116 3 years ago

    "Pah, 89%, 94% what difference does it really make, it's still a "good" score? ;) "

    That high up its quite a difference i believe. 69 or 74 % is another case. I do agree its still a good score.

  • Widge #117 3 years ago

    HalfLife2 storytelling was nonexistant! Played well though. Even though Master Chief is essentially a big green spaceman, I found him more involving than old Freeman. I fear to mention Bioshock since it seems to send everyone spastic, but you don't even get to see your guy or know anything about him (as far as I've seen so far in the game) but good attachment there I found.

    I did like the R1 storytelling, its just the continual chapter breaks and pauses coupled with a "lets hand hold you few the initial scrapes" approach really didn't help the game. Halo kicked off with a frankly awesome attack on a spaceship where R1 kicked off with a jaunt through York and about 5 enemies to shoot.

    R2 apparently really launches into it so well done there, I think I will miss that kind of detached historical narrative that the woman bod did through the first game though.

  • septimus #118 3 years ago

    Another one to the list... /wallet weeps.

  • BartonFink #119 3 years ago

    Excellent loved the first one and this is apparently better.

    Get in!!!

    My poor fucking wallet has just run away screaming ....

  • MightyMouse #120 3 years ago

    Looking like a good time for games. Films seem left behind in comparison.

  • Petulant_Radish #121 3 years ago

    I Don’t know, seeing The Dark Knight at the IMAX was pretty special.

  • kangarootoo #122 3 years ago

    "only fans of the series will prefer Gears MP to one of the previously mentioned."

    What does that even mean? Its like saying "only people who like apples will prefer apples over pears". Well, duuhh.

  • Darren #123 3 years ago

    @Widge - Resistance 2 starts from the point where the first game ended and if you haven't already I'd suggest you check out all three part videos from the start of the game on Gamersyde. It looks really, really great; very exciting and action-packed, just how I like my FPSs! :)
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 15:37

  • RedSparrows #124 3 years ago

    I'd love to have this, but I cannot afford either console nor game. I don't always find the more=better formula works in MP (Pandora Tomorrow is one of the best multiplayer games I've played, and it had 4 players), but it sounds pretty sweet.

  • kangarootoo #125 3 years ago

    ""Pah, 89%, 94% what difference does it really make, it's still a "good" score? ;) "

    That high up its quite a difference i believe. 69 or 74 % is another case. I do agree its still a good score. "


    Gaaahhh. How do people manage to split hairs this finely without the assistance of a laser and a microscope?

  • Aggesan #126 3 years ago

    @muscleblade

    Every comment you make is no damn stupid. I'm so glad this is not a forum I'm a regular at so I have to stand seing your stupid comments.

  • kangarootoo #127 3 years ago

    @IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER

    CAPS LOCK, TURN IT OFF.

    Turn it off. Please.

    P.s. "FEEL A TOUCH CHEATED BY THE LACK OF MONSTER HEIGHT INFO" That is the funniest thing I've read in some while :)
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 15:41

  • Azazel #128 3 years ago

    ps3lol

    Better than Halo!

    /oh God, my poor wallet! oh the humanity!

    EG are teh bias!

    9=FAIL

    zomg this affects teh score on metacritic by +/- 0.001%!!

    I liked the first one and I will be getting this, oh yes!

    I hated the first one and I WON'T be getting this because it is so OBVIOUSLY shit!

    RENTAL!

    This would be better with mouse + keyboard.

    This review fails at being objectively correct imho!

  • Widge #129 3 years ago

    "I'M ONLY INTERESTED IF THE MONSTERS / ALIENS ARE BLOODY ENOURMOUS. NOT ALL THE TIME, I CAN ACCEPT THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE UN-NECESSARY"

    is the best comment so far!

  • Dr.Mott #130 3 years ago

    "Improving tenfold on its predecessor in almost every area"

    So, 60/10?

  • lambtron #131 3 years ago

    hahaha

  • Azazel #132 3 years ago

    @farticusmaximus:

    Are you calling me a liar?

  • paulf #133 3 years ago

    @Widge - 'HalfLife2 storytelling was nonexistant!', I have to disagree with you on that one, some of the best storytelling in this medium i reckon

  • IneptPercy #134 3 years ago

    As mentioned the PS3 lineup is making me think about getting a PS3, just the price which is the problem. I just can't afford one (No I am not 12, I have more important bills to pay).

    Does still fit in the not needed catagory as my 360/PC/Wii are keeping me more than busy enough.

    Games does look great, will be one to get if/when I get a PS3.

  • kangarootoo #135 3 years ago

    @paulf

    But you couldn't see his face!!

    /sarcasm off

  • Apologie #136 3 years ago

    Resistance 2 is the best game ever made... we all should be praying to alla for giving us such a fantastic piece of entertainment.

    All heil the mighty PS3 GOD and Resistance 2... PS: INSOMNIAC RULES... thank you very much, will be forever and ever and ever gratefull.... gimme a aleluia brothers
    Edited by 3 at 05/11/08 @ 15:54

  • Widge #137 3 years ago

    Anyway, 12 mins til B&K. I need new hot frothy comments to read!

  • Kryon #138 3 years ago

    Is Apolol jizzing in his panties right now? It seems kinda that way.

  • Gazza_UK #139 3 years ago

    its only 3:58...

  • Apologie #140 3 years ago

    Oh and by the way, Gears of what??? are we talking about something related to the XFiXme again???? puleassssse

  • SEVQA #141 3 years ago

    @Kryon better than 360 owners shitting themselves!

  • Widge #142 3 years ago

    Oh shat, I thought B&K was 4pm.

  • Darren #143 3 years ago

    @paulf - +1

    Half-Life and its sequels have fantastic stories but they're conveyed in a completely realistic way rather than via 10 minute cutscenes. I can see why someone would mistake a game without cutscenes for having no story but in this case they are completely wrong. It's like saying BioShock didn't have any story either and that is not right either as it tells a story in an equally effective and believable way without the need for lengthy cinematics... well apart from the last scene that is which is a cutscene!

  • Kryon #144 3 years ago

    @SEVQA

    I totally agree, but I haven't actually seen any 360 owners shitting themselves (not in the same vein as the Sony fantards, i.e. "F*** this site OMGZ So teh bias, I'm never comin backz innit blud!".

  • Amoebalove #145 3 years ago

    ha apolo couldn't resist getting a quick list in, he's soooo funny!

    The game looks good and while the first one was nothing special it did keep me entertained till the end. This is being added to my ever expanding list of games to get but with both gears2 and LBP coming out this week everything else has to be put on hold.

  • RedSparrows #146 3 years ago

    @ Half Life 2 discussion

    HL2 was awesome all over to the max times 10. The narrative is conveyed in game, and from the ambience of the world itself. I got a pretty good idea of what had happened and what was happening simply from the jumpsuits, flying cameras and the still brilliantly-animated Alyx and co.

  • Amoebalove #147 3 years ago

    ha apolo you crazy bastard!

  • mazzl #148 3 years ago

    @IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER
    you go man! keeping it real ini't ;)

    i want to know about the hard monster size two... all gears fans should ;)

  • TH1882FC #149 3 years ago

    IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER - Keep on Rolling!

    I would also like to know how big the monsters are and HOW WIDE!

  • shopmans #150 3 years ago

    Great review! Can't wait to pick this one up!

  • penhalion #151 3 years ago

    Before I even read this review I said "I bet they just slap a 9 on it" and lo and behold....

  • Kryon #152 3 years ago

    Hmm, I'm not so sure I'll pick this up anymore tbh, the lack of traditional campaign co-op is a big let down for me as me and the gf rather enjoyed that aspect of the first game. I couldn't quite gauge from the review if it even has a 'single console' co-op mode or if they're all online based. Meh, Gears 2 for me then.

  • Pedrolot #153 3 years ago

    Sold.

  • merkdot #154 3 years ago

    what a depressingly predictable comments thread

  • Apologie #155 3 years ago

    No wayyy men, Marcus Fenix would kick Natan's fagget ass "homo erotic style"... on the other hand, Quimera would rape marcus Fenix Butt with a Bullseye so... tuff choice, the only guy's able to kick all this bitches asses would be psycho or nomad, due to the superhuman nano suit powers but on the other hand that skyscraper-sized mo**** Fucker must be tuff... i dont know
    Edited by 5 at 05/11/08 @ 16:44

  • Kryon #156 3 years ago

    That's extremely interesting, Apololol.

    /backs away

  • Darren #157 3 years ago

    @merkdot - And what would you rather have had... people bickering over which is better: Gears 2 or Resistance 2? I mean in what way is this thread "predictable" exactly? :?

  • WJRA3561 #158 3 years ago

    not as good as halo 3 then

  • menage #159 3 years ago

    I'm sticking with LBP, but nice job nonetheless.

  • mikeck #160 3 years ago

    @KANGAROOTOO

    THE CAPSLOCKS ARE STAYING. THAT IS JUST HOW I ROLL AS I AM A CUNT .

    Fixed! :p

  • menage #161 3 years ago

    @muscleblade

    "Naruto you say. I have tested the PS3 Naruto and the 360 Naruto sequel to the brilliant Rise of a Ninja. Trust me dude. Putting in Naruto as a positive for the PS3 was a mistake. " \

    Are you batshit insane. Naruto on 360 was a simple fighter with no depth at all and kiddy platforming. I know which one I will be getting, the 360 version was a waste of 20 euro's. Had more fun with the one PS3 level demo than in the whole 360 game

  • canIdoyabombsforya #162 3 years ago

    "It's been a good year for the PS3 really... Devil May Cry 4 (multiformat granted but I preferred the PS3 version), Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (a tech demo for sure but still pretty decent), the superb Metal Gear Solid 4, MLB 08: The Show, Siren: Blood Curse, WipEout HD, LittleBigPlanet and now Resistance 2, a nice mix of genres there. Oh and add in the improved MotorStorm: Pacific Rift is that's your "thing"... most of the major bases are covered as far as exclusives go. I only really bought my PS3 for those exclusives so I'm delighted. I think the PS3 is a great all-round console and compliments my Xbox 360 nicely. That's more than I can say for my increasingly underused Wii however! :) "

    I'll agree with half of those games, but its still a shit year especially considering Blu-ray is dying.
    I find the more I play on the HD consoles the more I feel the need to play some Bright upbeat games on the Wii. After rush hour on on Friday its usually Mario Kart.

  • ps3owner #163 3 years ago

    IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER has a point, how can we compare Resistance 2 with GOW2 if we don't know the size of the monsters? after all, they both have 9/10. Which incidentally makes them both shit now??! 10/10 is the accepted standard now?!!
    back in university (oh the days) 7/10 was a first class degree. has that changed already?!

  • kangarootoo #164 3 years ago

    @IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER

    "THE CAPSLOCKS ARE STAYING. THAT IS JUST HOW I ROLL."

    Proper lol. Nice one, touche.

  • mikeck #165 3 years ago

    @cthulu_steev

    That's how I Roll...

  • kangarootoo #166 3 years ago

    "THE CAPSLOCKS ARE STAYING. THAT IS JUST HOW I ROLL AS I AM A CUNT .
    Fixed! :p "

    Your sense of dry and subtle wit clearly isn't fixed.


    @IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER

    Ok, I've done some digging around and I've got some numbers for you.

    Monster - common garden
    Height: 60' 11"
    Weight: 4720lbs
    Vital statistics: 64 32 64
    Hobbies: cricket, reading and swimming, socialising with friends and eating out, listening to music

    Now cool it.

  • mikeck #167 3 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    Definitely not on this occasion, my bad

  • Dr.Mott #168 3 years ago

    Wow, I haven't seen either Kryon or Apologie for ages, then they both turn up in the same thread. This further reinforces my theory that they are in fact the same person.

  • elephant_stone #169 3 years ago

    Grimsby represent!

  • DanWhitehead #170 3 years ago

    DEAR IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. THE SIZE OF THE MONSTERS VARIES CONSIDERABLY. MOST ARE MERELY HUMAN SIZED, OR PERHAPS A LITTLE TALLER. IMAGINE JEFF GOLDBLUM IN PLATFORM HEELS. THERE ARE ALSO SOME MONSTERS WHICH ARE BIGGER THAN THIS. IMAGINE IF BRUCE FORSYTH WERE TO SIT ON JEFF GOLDBLUMS SHOULDERS AND RAISE HIS HANDS IN THE AIR. ABOUT THAT HIGH.

    OTHERS ARE VERY SMALL, BEETLES AND SPIDERY THINGS AND SUCHLIKE. THESE MONSTERS ARE USUALLY BETWEEN THE SIZE OF AN OLD LADIES HAND AND A MEDIUM SIZED WOK.

    MOSTLY I THINK YOU'LL BE LOOKING FOR THE EXTRA-SPECIAL LARGE MONSTERS WHICH CAN BE AS BIG AS A BUILDING. A PROPER BIG BUILDING, LIKE IN AMERICA, NOT A SCOUT HUT OR BUNGALOW.

    THE GAME ALLOWS YOU TO SHOOT BULLETS AT ALL OF THESE MONSTERS. IT'S RATHER GOOD FUN.

    LOTS OF LOVE,

    DAN

  • drumbaby #171 3 years ago

    "Furies are indestructible aquatic creatures that patrol submerged areas killing anyone who lingers in the water - a fairly crude way of keeping you on track. "

    Like in that poop-fest HL2, whenever you fell in the sea and tried to swim about? It was good in HL2 though, right?

  • Skire #172 3 years ago

    must have for me

  • Apologie #173 3 years ago

    because i can see cthulhu_steev this thread turned out ACE... love ya babe, group hugh ;*

  • Azazel #174 3 years ago

    "Furies are indestructible aquatic creatures that patrol submerged areas killing anyone who lingers in the water - a fairly crude way of keeping you on track. "

    Not to be confused with Furries, which are something else entirely.... Entirely hated by the Lord.

  • CapnCloudchaser #175 3 years ago

    Hubby will be wanting this then, he loved the first.

    Better tell him it's rubbish though, cos he'll be hogging the HDTV otherwise :(

  • Chufty #176 3 years ago

    Keyboard and mouse support might just make this one a purchase. Anyone know?

  • Les #177 3 years ago

    Reads like an enjoyable game. Incorporating HL2 elements is never a bad thing IMO. Shame they made it more arcadey. On the other hand, if Guerrilla keeps the pace of KZ2 slow like the first one, they might be a nice set. Might even try out the MP this time though it will be hard to out-do Warhawk (at which I suck but still enjoy).

  • muttler #178 3 years ago

    Looking forward to Gears 2 (alot) more, but this is now on my radar as a release purchase. Nice to see the well good PS3 exclusives coming along finally!

  • RedPanda #179 3 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • Apologie #180 3 years ago

    Obama for president....

  • m0thr4 #181 3 years ago

    Not so sure about this one. The discussion of this game in the latest 1-UP podcast has rather put me off. Apparently the single-player campaign is really short (8 hours) and the impressive-looking set pieces are nowhere near as interactive as they would first appear (the phrase "animated sky boxes" was used). In general, the levels were described as soulless and the whole game simply a collection of other people's ideas.

  • StrayBezza #182 3 years ago

    I don't know if this has been mentioned before but on the Littlewoods Direct site this game is £27.50, or if you spend over £30 delivery is free.

    I preordered this and Motorstorm 2 last night and total cost for the 2 was £55.00.

  • Darren #183 3 years ago

    LOL @ Dan's reply to IHATEMARK@EUROGAMER!!! Hehehe!

  • Darren #184 3 years ago

    @m0thr4 - "In general, the levels were described as soulless and the whole game simply a collection of other people's ideas."

    Oh you mean just like Halo and every other FPS since? ;)

    Seriously since when has the first person shooter genre being innovative? A lack of new ideas isn't necessarily a bad thing as it doesn't mean they're not fun to play. I mean Halo and Call of Duty 4 proved that. Even Gears of War wasn't exactly original since the cover tactic has been used in other games before that, it was just that it was one of the few games to put everything together into one neat little fun package.
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 18:44

  • Les #185 3 years ago

    "HL2 was awesome all over to the max times 10. The narrative is conveyed in game, and from the ambience of the world itself. I got a pretty good idea of what had happened and what was happening simply from the jumpsuits, flying cameras and the still brilliantly-animated Alyx and co."

    Yeah, think Valve are dicks but HL2 is an amazing game. Looks fantastic, better than any UE3 game with their overdose of fancy tricks and horrible lighting. It's understated art direction makes the game world more realistic than any other (e.g. next to HL2 Bioshock's art direction and level design is a joke). It tells a story as good as gaming as a medium is capable of and the audio is great too (the Combine samples are almost as good as the Helghast ones of KZ1).

  • Les #186 3 years ago

    "Even Gears of War wasn't exactly original since the cover tactic has been used in other games before that, it was just that it was one of the few games to put everything together into one neat little fun package."

    I'm sure lots of pixels had something to do with its success too... ;)

  • old_skool #187 3 years ago

    Come on Dan Whitehead, count those frames, I know you want to...

  • bad09 #188 3 years ago

    HL2, HL2, HL2. blah, blah, blah!

    Am I the only one who thought HL2 was, just a tad overrated and...well....just a little bit...boring?

    / runs!!!!!
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 18:55

  • Les #189 3 years ago

    "Am I the only one who thought HL2 was, just a tad overrated and...well....just a little bit...boring?'

    I guess so... :p

  • Apologie #190 3 years ago

    i think HL2 its a little bit overrated too, but still a very good game... FPS that i really enjoy playing, Crysis (PC), Crysis Warhead (PC), 007 Goldeneye (N64), COD 4 (Pc, PS3 and XFIXME), QUAKE 2 and, yeah ok, HL2.
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/08 @ 19:04

  • Scimarad #191 3 years ago

    lol @ the first paragraph. You could have just admitted how much you screwed up the review of the first one if you wanted to 'excuse' the good score:-)

  • myke6699 #192 3 years ago

    Considering this is EG- it's better than GoW2- Wow, 360 fanboys hide their face in shame. Now that we know that Fable II is shit and that Fallout 3 looks just as good on the PS3 (actually better), and Killzone2 will trump them all. Mark my word.

  • captainrentboy #193 3 years ago

    Nooooooo, the desire to spend £300+ before christmas is growing......
    Why couldn't it have been shit dammit? Between this and killzone 2 I don't think I can delay the purchase any longer :/ My girlfriend is going to punch my face in, the money I blow on gadgets is getting silly.

  • Vandrius #194 3 years ago

    PC + PS3 = Way to Go.

    You get pretty much everything that is good.

    GoW2 and Fable2 *will* come to PC, of that I don't doubt :p

  • Wildsleven #195 3 years ago

    lol i wish the console war never existed, it is soooo deppressing -_-

  • chessboxer #196 3 years ago

    The Resistance 2 beta is fun but there are too many dumb fucking noobs who can't start an 8 player co-op game. Seriously, how stupid are you to not actually start a fucking game you fucking created? Twats! Anyway, as I said, when there aren't fucktards creating co-op games which they won't start, the Resistance 2 beta is quite fun when you got a decent set of players.

    Anyway, I'm back for my 2nd beta of Killzone 2. This game rocks.

  • Yaster #197 3 years ago

    /cancels GoW2 preorder

  • muscleblade #198 3 years ago

    Aggesan wrote: Every comment you make is no damn stupid.

    No damn stupid you say. Thanks. Too bad i cant say the same about yours since they are totally moronic.

  • muscleblade #199 3 years ago

    "PC + PS3 = Way to Go. "
    "You get pretty much everything that is good. "

    Or you can buy a 360 for a lot less and get the best from both worlds.

  • menschenfracht #200 3 years ago

    Best from both worlds?

    I would buy X360 if it will have Company of heroes, Dawn of War II and Diablo 3 - all with full mouse and keyboard support .)

    Until then, I think, I'll stick to my inferior PC and PS3.

    ...

    eh, Muscleblade, aren't you still tired of defending Microsoft? Come on, every soldier needs his R&R. Or maybe you think you can make a clean well-lighted place out of internets by telling each moron that he is a moron (partly because his gaming console differs from yours)? Some kind of Virtuous mission or what?

  • muscleblade #201 3 years ago

    @menschenfracht

    I dont care about MS at all. If Sony made the 360 it wouldnt make a difference. I dont say MS is the better company so im not defending them. You got it all wrong. I actually thouth the PS3 was going to be the best console this generation, but that didnt happen. Gamers that own both consoles do prefer the 360 and says a lot imo. Im just annoyed that so many gamers actually believe the PS3 is better just because its a Playstation. Theyre wrong thats all. Its still a very good Blue ray player i believe.

  • Widge #202 3 years ago

    So good console + bluray player = win to me. Especially if you do have an HDTV, enjoy BR movies, wireless media and games all in the one box. I really don't get why having bluray seems to equate to being a bad thing. If the 360 had bluray in it that would be an awesome bonus in my mind. Ok, would equate to being more expensive but to be fair, if I was to buy a 360, I wouldn't be buying the bottom of the rung cheapie option.

    Do the higher spec 360's have wifi built in now? Not up on my facts and not looking for some trump card factoid, its just that and the BR in the PS3 really tipped the balance for to me when I bought.

  • loop7 #203 3 years ago

    "Do the higher spec 360's have wifi built in now"

    No, something the xbots conveniently forget when comparing the price of the consoles - wack another £70 on top for wireless on 360.

  • Xerx3s #204 3 years ago

    Fucking hell! So much crap posted in this thread! FFS EG, get some policies in place.

  • Widge #205 3 years ago

    Whereas I do need it. This is why I wade into things like this when people that what I own is inferior/wrong console. I think its misinformation. Ok, I know this has all been caused by mud slinging on both sides but still.

    The right console is the one that suits your needs, which doesn't necessarily mean that someone else has the wrong one.

  • muscleblade #206 3 years ago

    "The right console is the one that suits your needs, which doesn't necessarily mean that someone else has the wrong one. "

    I agree but if having the best quality games and online service matter the most the choice is quite clear as of now no matter what kind of games you prefer. Case closed. Next generation it might be different.

  • DrDamn #207 3 years ago

    @Muscleblade
    If the games you prefer are not in that set of "best quality games" then it's not clear is it? No single system has an all encompassing set of "quality games" covering everyone's preferences. So lets just leave people to their personal choice and let it lie eh?

  • Les #208 3 years ago

    "The right console is the one that suits your needs, which doesn't necessarily mean that someone else has the wrong one."

    +1

  • IneptPercy #209 3 years ago

    Love the no wireless on 360 arguement, surely anybody with sense will wire either console anyway.

    As mentioned, both consoles are great, neither has an exclusives line up which is any better or worse than the other.

    Value for money is very subjective:

    Out of the box playing games: 360
    Out of the box playing games + bluray: PS3

    Personally I still don't own a PS3 as I can play bluray already and have a decent gaming PC+360, so to me personnaly £300 to play a few exclusives just isn't worse it right now, blu-ray would help if I didn't already have a player.

    There is different consoles, games and prices to suit everybody, as long as people can justify to themsleves why they own (or don't own) certain consoles then leave them to it, if you are happy with what you have it doesn't mean everybody else would be.

  • Stepharneo #210 3 years ago

    Why the fuck are people playing fallout 3 on a console at all?...tsk tsk.

  • MilkYMoO #211 3 years ago

    I'm shocked, after playing the beta I was expecting something like a 7/10. Obviously eurogamer.net are biased sony fanbitches and hate the 360(I'll have to get this game now).

  • Les #212 3 years ago

    "Surely anybody with sense will wire either console anyway."

    Why? If online wifi play is lag-free and stable why put in a wire? Just because it's better in principle?

  • Widge #213 3 years ago

    I can't slap a wire across my front room, don't want to pull up the carpets and wireless is suiting me fine. I don't see the problem? I play on my PC and laptop using wirless, I stream media with wireless. Its all great in the wireless camp! If I bought a 360, I would have to buy wireless, in my checklist its something I have to consider.

  • JoeNut #214 3 years ago

    surprised it wasn't a 0/10 knowing Eurogamers usual bias

  • FrankCannon #215 3 years ago

    I prefer the Bosch WLX24162D washing machine as it has a wash load capacity 4.5kg, Ratings A Energy A Wash B Spin, Wash controls Variable spin, 40 degree wash time 135 minutes, Dimensions H860mm W600mm D400mm, Quick wash, Time to end programme indicator.

    Awesome! Pishes all over the Xbox 360 and PS3!!!!!

    And before anyone accuses me of being a Bosch Bot I own all makes of washing machines, I just prefer the Bosch - it washes straight out of the box and is far superior IMHO.

  • man.the.king #216 3 years ago

    @farticusmaximus regarding the following response of yours to Widge:
    "Yes, you already stated that. Could you please restate it a few more times just to make sure everyone knows how much you prefer one brand of electronics over another?"

    Hey man,

    I don't think he was trying to drum his point into somebody's skull. I think he was just responding to the following comment by IneptPercy: "Surely anybody with sense will wire either console anyway."

    Regards,
    MTK

  • Johnsters #217 3 years ago

    re canIdoyabombsforya - bluray dying

    Where did you get that from????
    If anything its been adopted faster than DVD ever did - Fact.
    Steady increase in sales of hardware and movie studios releasing a lot of back catalogue.
    Sub £200 players. My first DVD player was £300 in 1998.
    By 2010, if you need to buy a replacement DVD player it'll be Blu-ray there for increasing market penetration.
    Upscaling (I have a Denon for this) though nice, just doesn't replace missing data and still has all the crap that DVD pictures contain. Do not be fooled. Upscale DVD is no match for 1080P. Not even close.
    Mass market HD (1080p) download is way off and the fact of the matter, joe public likes goods in hand. Movie download has not followed the success of music down load yet due to the front end being a PC.

    Bluray is around till the next physical media arrives, which isnt needed yet.

    The only thing that is poor about Bluray is the cost of the films on the high street. Online is the way to go. Except for when HMV do there 2 for £30 deals which covers most films except for the last months releases.

    Comment on wired vs. wired. - My Broadband router is not in the same room as the console, so I have to use wireless. Online gaming seems ok. COD4 is variable :-)

  • IneptPercy #218 3 years ago

    Interesting points on the wireless/wired thing, there is no denying that wired is the best option but wireless has got better, personally I would rather run cables than use wireless but I can see its advantages.

    I was more going at the angle of you don't need a wireless adapter for the 360, but I can see how some people do need to consider it, it really should be closer to the £20-£30 mark by now.

    To me the PS3 has the opposite problem, I would rather they take £100 off the price and remove the wireless and blu-ray (yes I know the blu-ray isn't that simple), I think its better to pay less then pay for extras you want than have to pay for extras you don't need.

    The main reason I own a 360 and not a PS3 is because the 360 was first, and the fact the PS3 still costs more than what I bought my 360 at (a good while ago) and doesn't do anything better on the games front means I can't justify it (to myself or my other half), if I couldn't already play bluray then I could use that as an excuse.

    Since then I have realised PC is the way forward anyway...

  • Scimarad #219 3 years ago

    "Why the fuck are people playing fallout 3 on a console at all?...tsk tsk."

    I suppose it's the convenience of putting the game in the machine and it actually working without any sodding around. But hey, I forgot; Sodding around with settings/drivers is part of the fun, right?

  • iago71 #220 3 years ago

    I had little interest in this tbh..... Now yet another bloody game that needs to be bought.... LBP, Fable and Fallout already bought -Gears today and now this - not to mention Mirrors Edge next week! I dont remember a time when there was quite so much quality in such a short space of time...... Bloody Hell ... The next few months are looking pretty occupied..... :)

  • Widge #221 3 years ago

    yep it was in response to that comment, mainly because its from a "who needs wifi?" perspective. I'm standing up saying I need wifi because it was being disregarded as not necessary or a pointless addition.

    If you don't need wifi, then its a needless addition in the PS3... all back to the whatever suits your needs principle, but don't disregard it because you personally don't want it. The same thing winds be up with people regarding bluray ability as unnecessary and therefore a useless addition.

    So as I say, its not so much a "this is a factual reason why one is better than the other" angle I'm going for, more of a "don't dismiss out of hand what you put no value in to". Plus half of the insistence on plus and negatives on hardware setups is mainly some sort of defence mechanism from both sides.
    Edited by 1 at 08/11/08 @ 13:16

  • Pixelsmith #222 3 years ago

    Stupid Web 2.0. Comments sections under games reviews make me despise a large chunk of my own demographic. Eurogamer is one of the only sites which compares favourably to the best games magazines, and it's all here for free. From the number of tantrums that flare up after a review is posted, you'd think the writers had personally broken into some readers' homes and taken a dump on their joypads.

    Bear in mind when posting comments that hardly anybody gives a damn about your opinion. They're generally here to read what the professional thinks. Your voice is an impotent squawk into an uncaring void.

    If you're whining about EG, about scores, about advertising intruding on editorial integrity or simply asserting that you know best and the reviewer is an idiot - when you could just as easily say "I disagree" - then all your comment is doing is making the 80 per cent of rational people who hang around here want to reach through the screen and punch you in the mouth.

    If you want an average, go to Gamerankings. If you want an opinion, read a review. That's all there is to it.

  • DanWhitehead #223 3 years ago

    From the number of tantrums that flare up after a review is posted, you'd think the writers had personally broken into some readers' homes and taken a dump on their joypads.

    To be fair, I really should stop doing that. Terrible habit.

  • captainrentboy #224 3 years ago

    ''I prefer the Bosch WLX24162D washing machine as it has a wash load capacity 4.5kg, Ratings A Energy A Wash B Spin, Wash controls Variable spin, 40 degree wash time 135 minutes, Dimensions H860mm W600mm D400mm, Quick wash, Time to end programme indicator.''

    135 minutes on a 40 degree wash? That's fooking dire, mine can blast through in like 55 minutes.
    BoschLOL.
    I don't get why PS3 owners are kicking up a stink in this comments section, one that is revolving around an exclusive title on their machine, and one that got a really good review :/

  • iago71 #225 3 years ago

    Id find it quite appealing if one of the reviewers came round and took a shit on one of my joypads..... Im a little disappointed that I havent been fortunate enough to be privy to this yet! ..... Dan?? :p

  • Kryon #226 3 years ago

    LOL, Anyone checked Game rankings lately? This game only gets a totally crap 88.6%! In comparison to 93.8% for the mighty Gears 2! FAILsistance 2, more like it, LULZ!

  • Xerx3s #227 3 years ago

    "read what the professional thinks."

    Sorry but I am yet to see any professional journalism in the games industry (especially in the online section). EG's average article most certainly doesn't score any high points. The people writing video game reviews are just gamers like you and me, giving their opinion. Just because they get paid to give their opinion and receive games before we do, doesn't mean that they are professional journalists.

    Not that the rest of the press is doing so much better these days mind.

  • Xerx3s #228 3 years ago

    "If you don't need wifi, then its a needless addition in the PS3... all back to the whatever suits your needs principle, but don't disregard it because you personally don't want it. The same thing winds be up with people regarding bluray ability as unnecessary and therefore a useless addition. "

    The exact opposite holds true as well.

  • Xerx3s #229 3 years ago

    "Am I the only one who thought HL2 was, just a tad overrated and...well....just a little bit...boring? "

    No. But there are a lot of people in denial.

  • loop7 #230 3 years ago

    Wireless works fine with my ps3 and the likes of COD4, no lag whatsoever, couldn't have a cable running across my living room and wouldn't want the hassle of pulling carpets up etc.

    I think it should be standard in this generation of consoles, ok you might not need it, but at least it's there if you do, ie you might switch your console to another room or move house etc

    It must be a bit of a nasty shock to some 360 owners to have to fork out the extra cash and find out that their console was not so cheap after all.

  • loop7 #231 3 years ago

    --"No. I wont pay for extras I dont need, and the general public won't either which is a large part of why the PS3 is such an abject failure and is rapidly bankrupting Sony"--


    It's nice of you to speak on behalf of the general public, but I think you might be putting words into their mouths. Let's look at this news story published by EG on monday:

    [link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=289184
    ]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/article.php?art...[/link]
    Edited by 1 at 13/11/08 @ 06:47

  • Les #232 3 years ago

    "which is a large part of why the PS3 is such an abject failure and is rapidly bankrupting Sony"

    Yeah, it sells as poorly as the 360, year-on-year which can be considered catastrophic. But the main reason is that besides pushing lots of pixels it doesn't do much more than the consoles the masses already own: PS2 and Wii.

  • m0thr4 #233 3 years ago

    "Am I the only one who thought HL2 was, just a tad overrated and...well....just a little bit...boring?'

    No, I thought it was pretty tedious too... not a patch on the original.

  • m0thr4 #234 3 years ago

    @m0thr4 - "In general, the levels were described as soulless and the whole game simply a collection of other people's ideas."

    Oh you mean just like Halo and every other FPS since? ;)

    I didn't think Halo was particularly original. It was well executed, but there certainly wasn't anything in that game that hadn't been seen before.

    Seriously since when has the first person shooter genre being innovative?


    You're possibly too young to remember but, since the first person shooter genre was invented, there have been numerous innovations including (but not limited to) - split-screen multiplayer, online multiplayer, ability to create your own levels, proper 3D modelling, grenades, vehicles, cover systems, NPCs fighting alongside you, RPG-style stats. The games that brought in these innovations are generally heralded as ground-breaking, those that merely copied have largely fallen by the wayside (unless they took a previously broken innovation and made it work).

    Resistance 2 brings absolutely nothing new to the genre at all, ergo it's nothing to get particularly excited about IMO.

    A lack of new ideas isn't necessarily a bad thing as it doesn't mean they're not fun to play. I mean Halo and Call of Duty 4 proved that.

    Depends on how easily pleased you are... I found those two games dull as ditchwater.

    Even Gears of War wasn't exactly original since the cover tactic has been used in other games before that, it was just that it was one of the few games to put everything together into one neat little fun package.

    The ability to allow a friend to drop in or out of the single-player campaign was pretty original - very few games before GoW offered that feature in quite that way. But really, I fail to see your point. I never mentioned any of these games you're talking about. For the record, although I even got bored with Gears of War by the start of the very last chapter of the single-player campaign and never bothered finishing it... and I was generally only playing that in co-op mode.
    Edited by 1 at 13/11/08 @ 12:40

  • m0thr4 #235 3 years ago

    No. I wont pay for extras I dont need, and the general public won't either which is a large part of why the PS3 is such an abject failure and is rapidly bankrupting Sony.

    Actually, SCE (who make the PS3) are the one company in Sony who are reducing their losses (with a recent 10% profit increase).

    Sony's current financial problems are actually due to the weak Yen against the US Dollar and Euro.

  • Pixelsmith #236 3 years ago

    "Sorry but I am yet to see any professional journalism in the games industry (especially in the online section). EG's average article most certainly doesn't score any high points. The people writing video game reviews are just gamers like you and me, giving their opinion.Just because they get paid to give their opinion and receive games before we do, doesn't mean that they are professional journalists."

    Gah. I swear, that kind of half-cocked drivel gives me heartburn.

    If you take a little look down the annals of publishing history, you might find that there's a historical precedent for this strange beast know as the "review". Whether you define reviewers - of games, theatre, restaurants or anything else - as "journalists" or as "critics" is up to you. Either way, they're being paid for their work, so they're professionals.

    If you, in turn, wish to criticise them, it will be about how well they meet their brief, not whether they do so as a professional. And you'll be speaking as an amateur critic. There's one of those babies inside all of us so, you know, forgive us if we don't listen.

    And, incidentally, are you saying games writers cannot, in principle, be journalists? Because the last time I looked, the collecting, writing and presenting of news was pretty much the definition of journalism, and that - along with features - makes up a substantial amount of many games mags. Just because it's news from a niche doesn't mean it's not news.

    Or are you saying that you're open to the idea that games journalism could exist, in principle, but that you've never seen any in the whole history of games-related publishing that has lived up to the standards you demand? What might those standards be?

  • Les #237 3 years ago

    Finally received the game today, after taking 2 weeks to get here from the US... Gameplay is great, quite similar to the first game. The lighting is a bit off though. In some daytime outdoor environments I need to use my flashlight to see a damn thing!? Anybody else suffering from the same problem? The game could use some brightness controls or better still a lighting patch (both of which won't happen of course).

  • Grayvern #238 3 years ago

    Since you cant carry every weapon in the campaign im not sure whether to but it to be honest, two weapon systems in FPS are fine but if half life can stick with having every gun why cant resistance.

  • Les #239 3 years ago

    @ Grayvern

    Don't mind the 2 weapon system too much. Had feared it would be annoying but given the frequency with which you can swap guns, it's not too bad. What's less ideal though is that you know what's coming up by the weapons that lie around. Must admit that I played R1 using almost only the Carabine and Auger (just like in R&C from the huge number of guns you end up using 2-3 favourites over and over most of the time), at least the two weapon set-up makes sure you give them all a try.

  • snafu65 #240 3 years ago

    I'm confused, Edge pretty much trashed the game giving it a paltry 6/10, although reading that review again their main gripe seemed to be that the game was too hard strangely.

  • Les #241 3 years ago

    "although reading that review again their main gripe seemed to be that the game was too hard strangely."

    The game is less polished than the typical Insomniac game and game balancing is off now and then. It's not very hard (though I'm only half way through but I'm not very good at shooters) but there's the occasional 1-hit kill attack that some find annoying, though it doesn't bother me much TBH. And I personally prefer a health system with proper hit point idication and health packs over the nowadays common damage-magically-goes-away-if-you-don't-get-shot-for-x-secon ds-system (which R2 applies as well, to be clear).
    Edited by 1 at 27/11/08 @ 07:13

  • evaluna #242 3 years ago

    @DanWhitehead:
    "From the number of tantrums that flare up after a review is posted, you'd think the writers had personally broken into some readers' homes and taken a dump on their joypads. "

    To be fair, I really should stop doing that. Terrible habit.

    Winner of the thread.

  • Grayvern #243 3 years ago

    Thanks Les, also edge this month (i don't buy i look in the shop for laughs) seems to have been deliberately playing for controversy and marking as low as possible.

  • buggerlugs75 #244 3 years ago

    ++++1 pixelsmith. Finally a voice of reason. Well Done.

  • SilentScream #245 3 years ago

    @DaemonB

    "...30 or more enemies on screen at one time..."

    Dont mean for this to sound trollish but how many does GOW2 manage? Im a big fan of lots of on screen action, its a real immersion puller for me.

    Don't believe everything you see/hear.

    If you look closely at the Locust, like when you're on the big.. robot.. thing.., use the sniper and look at them and there's barely any detail on them at all.
    Hardly convincing as the really small examples at that point probably have 20 times less polycount than the original sized ones.
    Found that very disappointing.

    Epic were saying about loads on a screen and could only manage it with really small, blurry examples that only have a running an dying animation and that's it...

  • MilkYMoO #246 3 years ago

    Damn, I was going to get this but gamecentral gave it a 7 today. Cvg gave it an 8.0, unfortunately eurogamers reviews aren't as reliable as they used to be.

  • spudsbuckley #247 3 years ago

    I gave up on this yesterday out of sheer frustration.

    I'm normally pretty good at shooters but i've literally died hundred of times while playing R2 on normal. The majority of the deaths have been one hit kills or enemies just rushing me and gunning me down in 3 or 4 hits.

    It pure trial-and-error, learn-where-the-enemies-come-from gameplay. No skill involved just a desire to replay the same sections over and over. Utter shit compared to the first one or GOW2 which i moved onto last night after this crap.

    Maybe the multiplayer is good but it just isn't a 9/10 game based on my experience of the single player.

  • Les #248 3 years ago

    "I'm normally pretty good at shooters but i've literally died hundred of times while playing R2 on normal. The majority of the deaths have been one hit kills or enemies just rushing me and gunning me down in 3 or 4 hits."

    Really? Just finished it (SP) and I'm not a very good FPS player (never even played one online) but had little trouble with R2 on normal, think it's a bit too easy even. Thanks to the now common regenerating health there's no challenge whatsoever in FPSs anymore. I thought the one-hit-kill enemies were a good remedy for this system: they keep you on your toes. Even better would be to just go back to good old hit points en med packs though.

    R2 grew on me. At first the too dark lighting (or lack of brightness controls) bothered me a lot, by the end it bothered me a little bit. The game would have looked even better if a significant part of it wasn't completely black, but maybe it's just my TV (though I don't have this problem with any other game). While restrictive and sometimes ruining surprises ('gee, a shotgun, wonder what type of enemy will come up next'), the 2-weapon system at least made me use each and every weapon rather than just stick to Augur and Bullseye for the entire game.

    All in all a worthy successor to R1 IMO. Will definitely give online a try this time.

  • Velios #249 3 years ago

    OMG, this is the first game I might actually buy for the PS3 since MGS4

    It's been a long wait. Too long :S

  • DarkBytes #250 3 years ago

    Yes

  • Scimarad #251 3 years ago

    As a huge fan of FoM I have to say I think EG are utterly round the bend on this one. It seems to me that Insomniac just didn't have any faith in their game chucked out everything that made it good in the first place. R2 just feels like some crappy COD wannabe where you run from one set piece to the next and worse still, it doesn't manage to do it well!

    How they you think this warrants a 9 and the original is worth a 6 is just...mind shatteringly incomprehensible.

    Thank a bunch Insomniac.

  • Les #252 3 years ago

    "How they you think this warrants a 9 and the original is worth a 6 is just...mind shatteringly incomprehensible."

    True, the discrepancy doesn't make any sense (probably different reviewers, which again proves the point that review scores are futile).

    The first game was more polished, had better level design, better damage system and more varied gameplay. But this one looks better (except for the lighting) so that probably explains the higher score... And it has better enemies and bosses (though the latter are rather easy).

    As for running from one set-piece to the next, that's basically the template for FPSs, was the same in the first one and every other FPS except maybe STALKER (according to the mixed reviews).

  • deathdealer619 #253 3 years ago

    Yet Edge magazine give it a 6? Fucking hell I have this game and it is not bad the multi player rules but the graphics are inconsistant in single player.

  • Kryon #254 3 years ago

    6/10 was a fair score for the first game, this one deserves a 4. Really poor, I'll be trading it back in ASAP.

  • Scimarad #255 3 years ago

    "As for running from one set-piece to the next, that's basically the template for FPSs, was the same in the first one and every other FPS except maybe STALKER (according to the mixed reviews)"

    Possibly, but it was a hell of a lot better disguised in the first one. What really kills this for me, though, is losing the full campaign co-op. That was definitely the best way to play FoM.

  • GamesConnoisseur #256 3 years ago

    Playing other FPS and inc the recent great fun 3rd person GoW2 and then trying out R2 really shown up how much scripting there is in this game. I got killed a few times cos the bastard 'friendly' NPC kept pushing me out into the open just cos its scripted and you can easily predict and kill the baddies!

    Fury, dont talk to me about those stupid man-fish who just go round and round like a goldfish no matter what was happening around them!

    These flaws gets up my nose so far!

    Can see why its doesnt get critically high score across the board, good game but some flaws too. Sadly not GoTY for me from the first couple of hours, as it was with MSG4 or other games.

  • Scimarad #257 3 years ago

    Actually, I've changed my mind. It's really started kick arse now!

    1. It gets really good at Orick.

    2. It looks a hell of a lot better on my old 26in Samsung that it does on my 42in Toshiba. On the Tosh it looks jaggy as hell and the constrast is really buggered, being either very bright or very dark with little in between. I've had this problem on one other game on the PS3 - Uncharted. It's a shame because the Tosh is really good, overwise. Certainly glad I kept the Samsung, though.
    Edited by 1 at 28/11/08 @ 23:47

  • Les #258 3 years ago

    "1. It gets really good at Orick."

    Had the same experience. I spent the first two levels mainly being annoyed by some small lacks of polish but around Orick the game really gets going.

  • drumbaby #259 3 years ago

    The first two levels in the first game were meh as well...then it took off big time.

  • Kryon #260 3 years ago

    The game does improve as you go through it but playing this so soon after Gears 2, it just doesn't compare in any way, this is the kind of game I would enjoy when there's a drought of good software, that's not the case at present, I very happily traded it in for Fallout 3. I strongly suggest that people rent/borrow this one before paying full price for it. It's really not that good at all imho.

  • butler` #261 3 years ago

    @Xerx3s
    "Sorry but I am yet to see any professional journalism in the games industry..."

    Oh dear oh dear. A whole new level of stupid on the EG comment threads!

  • Les #262 3 years ago

    Played my first online R2 today and it's excellent (though I'm not). Especially Skirmish is genius, with its dynamic objectives. And I really like the way that you're always in the 'blue' team. Team colour switching got me confused sometimes during multiple round Warhawk sessions. Minor niggle but still, nice to see an easy fix for it.

  • Gradius #263 3 years ago

    been playing this now for a few days, overall it's good, but a 9/10 it's not I'm afraid, definitely not a triple A title, I know the PS3 crew may disagree but I honestly don't consider this sequel to be any better than the first, in ways it's worse (and I pretty much agreed with the 6/10 EG gave the original)... A decent game, definitely not bad, just really not great imo.

  • VMerken #264 3 years ago

    I liked this, especially once my avatar started moving into Orick. Orick makes you forget about some of the cheap one hit kills in there. Also, strangely enough (or maybe not), after beating Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy) a few months back, memorising enemy patterns to go from one showcase to the next seems to have become an utterly complete walk in the park :).

  • m0thr4 #265 3 years ago

    9/10 is all very well, but I still haven't managed to convince any of my Xbox360-owning friends to buy a PS3 and 1-up absolutely crucified the single-player mode (in their "1-Up Yours" podcast on 07/11/08).

    :-(

  • Netlon #266 3 years ago

    I know I'm throwing another bucketload of kerosene into this discussion, but does anyone else find it odd that the Resistance 2 review is still linked to via a picture on the main page? It's been a while since the review, hasn't it? Sorry if it's been mentioned already.

    [edit] Grand, it's removed now. And it's gone from the Highlights section on every page as well.
    Edited by 1 at 02/12/08 @ 15:11

  • Rich72 #267 3 years ago

    bought a PS3 on monday to sit along side my 360. got the machine + bluray, HDMI and 3 games for £300.... thanks HMV, however, this game is bloody awful and a chore to play through. The graphics are terrible with one of the worst main screens i have seen in 10 years and the online is a joke. very, very disappointed with this.