PEGI becomes UK standard for games
Ratings system to be backed by law.
The PEGI ratings system is to become the sole standard form of classification for videogames in the UK, the Government has announced.
The Video Standards Council will oversee the system independent of the games industry, and will implement the PEGI system for all titles released in the region.
Selling a videogame rated 12 or over to a minor will now be illegal.
"Protecting children and giving parents a clear and robust new system has always been our starting point. The new system of classification follows the essential criteria set out by Professor Tanya Byron, who recommended a trustworthy, uniform and clear set of symbols that is flexible and future proof," commented Creative Industries Minister Siôn Simon.
"We will now work with PEGI and the VSC to agree exactly what the new symbols will look like and how they will work in the UK market, to ensure they provide the clarity and safeguards that are needed."
The BBFC will no longer be involved in the classification of games, but will remain in place for linear content such as DVD and Blu-ray releases.
"The UK already has a robust system of classification for films and DVDs run by the BBFC. The new system of games classification will match those high standards as this important market continues to evolve," added Simon.
Lord Carter addressed the House of Commons this afternoon, revealing that - as part of the Digital Britain review - the videogames industry in the UK is set to receive a new age ratings system, "building on" the PEGI system.
"We will implement a new, more robust system of content classification for the videogames industry, building on PEGI system with a strong UK-based statutory layer of regulation, ensuring the protection of children now, and in the future," he said in his introductory statement.
More to follow.
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Sorry, just felt someone should comment.
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this is worrying at the fact that while working at various retailers, hardly any parents even noticed the PEGI ratings system. To get the public on track with knowing the PEGI system after the BBFC has been in place for so long will be a difficult effort.
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It gives a more specific breakdown of the content at least, though a couple of the symbols were a bit obscure. I'm curiosu to see how this develops.
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Hang on.....it wasnt illegal before?
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I can see difficulty in adapting to this for a good year or two.
"Selling a videogame rated 12 or over to a minor will now be illegal."
But isn't a minor someone under 18?!
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"Hang on.....it wasnt illegal before?"
PEGI wasn't legally enforceable and I believe you only got BBFC ratings on 15 and 18 games.
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It's good that they're not legally enforcable, too; although, on the downside, I make a little entertainment news package at work, aimed at kids, and I've often included 12+ games in the past, as under 12s (our target audience) could still buy them. I suppose now either my guidelines or the games I feature will have to change! Still, it's probably for the best.
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There are plenty of BBFC 12 rated games, Tomb Raider Underworld is a recent example.
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edit: had I bothered reading more of the comments I can see that I'm not the only one. Phew, eh?
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If they can't take the big ass Rated 18 symbol on the game box as a hint, they sure as hell won't even look at the PEGI symbols!!
Well, I guess they just want to *look* like they're trying to do something
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And in the same report she states that most parents don't recognise the PEGI classifcation, but the BBFC system is instantly recognisable. So which one do they go for?
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At the end of the day, this will be a nice simplification. There's only going to be one set of age ratings on the box and no potentially confusing 15+ and 16+ on the same game.
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From my experience, customers who look at the PEGI rating think that it's a recommended age for skill and not for content, because it starts at 3+. When they see the BBFC 18, they know exactly what it means, and if the parents choose to ignore it then they are taking that responsibility.
Having the same system for games and movies makes a lot of sense, moving to the crazy PEGI symbol system is a huge step backwards, in my opinion. I am also aware of several instances where PEGI has given games entirely wrong ratings that contradict their previous works.
XIII being rated 12+ is the most blatant example of a PEGI screw up I'm aware of. It's a pretty violent game with blood and bad language, but it looks like a cartoon so it must be okay for kids to play. I don't trust PEGI, I do trust the BBFC.
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Seriously, big numbers slapped on the front of the box - you can't make it any cleared!
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Like I was saying, people who cannot successfully comprehend what the PEGI age ratings mean should read this article and ponder whether they are mentally incompetent.
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Yes we all know what the BBFC ones mean because they have been around for a long time, but ti won't take long for people to get to know the PEGI ratings, before long people will forget how it use to be. It was an 18 before and now its an 18+ if people can't make the link then they have bigger issues than what game to play.
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Not with those hideous rating emblems!
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From the view of a staff member, i do not want to sell a 7+ game to any kid unless they look about ten years old to protect my back! That is how its going to be and i am going to get more abusive parents demanding me to answer why i can not sell their child a game that they are apparently old enough to have. The rating systems were fine as they are, the only plus i can gather from the PEGI system is that there will be more information on the actual content which can help parents understand what they are buying. I apologize for the rant...
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Not convinced at all really. The BBFC were doing a decent job and PEGI sounds too shaddy and too politicised by the industry. Time will tell though
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They look a lot better than I expected them to look. I like the cleanliness and uniformity that they have. Thanks for the link!
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Dr. Julius Hibbert: Homer, I'm afraid you'll have to undergo a coronary bypass operation.
Homer Simpson: Say it in English, Doc!
Dr. Julius Hibbert: You're going to need open-heart surgery.
Homer Simpson: Spare me your medical mumbo jumbo!
Dr. Julius Hibbert: We're going to cut you open and tinker with your ticker.
Homer Simpson: Could you dumb it down a shade?
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I ask myself that very same question every time the subject comes up. Still, people aren't afraid to use this argument against utilising the PEGI as industry standard. This article depicts the absurdity of it all quite well.
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Though I love buying games with the 18 certificate. Makes me feel like a real grown up boy!
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My ten year old tells me most of his class mates have played GTA4, and that kinda shows how bad parents have been on the usage front...
Now Pegi.... sorry but Pegi is rubbish, at least BBFC had a pretty strict set of rules to follow on why they gave ratings to films and games... can anyone tell me why Terminator has a Pegi rating is a 16+... seriously the only violence is fantasy (your shooting robots), there is one swear word... and you dont see any death sequences at all... Now anyone seen the movie... which is a 12A...anyone under 12 can see with a parent... this is one of the reasons why this is a sad day for ratings! Pegi do not have a clue.
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Currently stores cannot take in/sell PEGI versions of games with both ratings.
Also...the government paid so much money for research into changing the BBFC's logos and policies to incorporate the PEGI-style system of rating at the taxpayers expense...then decide to go for the inferior PEGI system anyway!
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And the BBFC are great, and far more liberal than people think.
That is all.
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my game collection must be kept neat!
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Hypothetical situation - there's a nice cutesy game out there which takes 20 hours to complete (Mario Galaxy for arguments sake). That's a loooong looong time for someone to play through to check Mario doesn't say fuck shit or bugger. Especially if that's an Easter Egg (like the GTA blowjob).
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Send it to the board you want to rate it [up until now the BBFC or PEGI]. They'll have all files in the commercially-released game made available to them and judge what rating it should be given based on criteria for certain material - i.e. drugs references, adult content [and whether it's explicit or not], what degree of profanity there is or isn't in the game, blood, gore and dismemberment, and horror content.
They may or may not play through the game itself, often they will just play samples of the game, listen to some of the game's conversations, read the game's text files [or a portion of them] and have things pointed out to them by developers to make the process a lot more streamlined given the huge nature of some games. For example, playing through all of Fallout 3 would be stupid and time-consuming. Since heavy fines can be incurred for lying to the BBFC, there is a strong incentive to tell the truth.
Generally developers will earmark content that is certain/extremely likely to garner a higher rating first, so that a rating can be arrived at lot faster - you hardly need to rate everything in the game if just a few pieces of content are sufficient to get a 15 or 18 rating.
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And whilst we're at it, I find the discrimination logo (two white figures looming over a small black figure) discriminatory. Can the logo be changed according to the particular discrimination at work? For example to two black dudes with afros and too much jewelry looming over a badly dressed skinny white teenager for Fiddy Cent's next. A gorgeous skinny woman with huge norks looming over a couple of fat mingers for Tomb Raider? Or a giant douche looming over innocent internet users, for Farticus' next rant.
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USK who rate games in Germany really slow down getting ratings for launch, if BBFC took over the rights in the UK, it would be the same.
This is good news.
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I'd much rather having a rating that reflects the country instead of a game being slapped with an 18 based on the fact that someone in Europe finds it more offensive than someone, in say, the UK. I don't actively care who rates what, but I do think the PEGI system needs a big overhaul.
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PEGI is a whole lot of hurt and seems to be different from country to country. A 12 in the USA isn't necessarily a 12 over here, under the PEGI system. Only now it's also a legally enforcable rating system, where as the BBFC only enforced 18 certificates. Under the new system, if you look under 12 and are buying a 12 rated game, you need ID.
I haven't laughed so hard in ages. Suddenly the sensible BBFC doesn't seem so bad does it.
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Erm, that is because PEGI (Pan European Game Information) isn't used in the US. They use ESRB. Age ratings are the same across Europe (apart from Germany), it is better for us to use PEGI.
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The point of this news is NOT that the current PEGI logo looks a bit crap, or that parents might not understand it. Now that it is legally binding and that this will likely make the mainstream news, parents will be more aware of its meaning and will be forced to look out for it when they buy the game.
Sure, irresponsible parents will buy 18 rated games for their 6 year olds, but you can't cater for those people anyway.
The point is also not that the PEGI rating system are inaccurate. As it says in the article, they will try and ensure that the ratings board are robust, fair and respectable.
I'm suprised most of the comments here were so stupid. Usually when a good, serious piece of news appears on Eurogamer, the intellectuals come out to debate it sensibly.
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Having said that, the BBFC is considered a little more authorative due to the fact that they rate other forms of entertainment as well, which oddly, are not as widely ignored. People also seem to agree that their certifications are, on the whole, more accurate in determining the rating due to the content due to better defined guidelines.
If you want robust, fair and respectable out of the box, I think the BBFC would have been the better choice. PEGI are more detailed and flexible, but you need people to actually read the boxes for that to matter!
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Nope dont see that at all. If pegi wrongly rate games (BBFC was generally very good)... then parents and children will have no idea what is good or bad. I refer you to the Terminator game as a prime example of very poor Pegi rating.
Secondly, the ratings on the box regardless of if its Pegi or BBFC does not stop stupid parents from buying their kids games they are too young to play, nor does it stop kids from trying to get hold of such games. People I know in retail have tried numerous times to explain to a parent who is obviously buying a game for a kid that its really not suitable but it falls on deaf ears. I just see Pegi and its poor ratings making the whole situation worse.
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Creates a win-win situation, you either accept that you are responsible for purchasing and supplying a product for someone under age, or you absolve the seller of responsibilty.
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Sure things were pretty bad 'back in the day', I fondly remember the days of tracking down the 'banned list', Cannibal Holocaust still haunts me to this day. But we now have one of the most liberal censorship boards in the world, acting in the interests of consumers, and not in the pockets of the big companies such as the MPAA.
Sure you can go unrated in the US, but for 99% of movies this means commercial suicide, and for the odd gem that needs to be unrated and would never see the light of day with an 18 cert here in the UK, we can just import it.
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As many people rightly pointed out, the BBFC is extremely lenient when it comes to actual censorship - I can think of two instances where a game was initially denied classification, both of which were subsequently granted classification at appeal.
The BBFC ratings are also instantly recognisable as age limits, whereas PEGI ratings have always been purely advisory - it's going to be tough to get people to take note that PEGI ratings are now legally binding unless it's made very clear at point of purchase.
Of course, this all brings us more in line with European ratings standards, and that's just soooo OBVIOUSLY a good thing for its own sake.
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