Oblivion horse armour on Live

By Tom Bramwell Published 4 April, 2006

For just under two quid.

Those of you playing The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion on Xbox 360 can log onto Xbox Marketplace today and get your grubby gauntlets on some armour for your horse - providing you're happy to pay 200 points, or £1.70, for the privilege.

The first piece of downloadable content for the game is currently only available for the Xbox 360 version - there are elven and steel armour sets available for purchase in-game once you've paid up on Marketplace.

While previous bits of premium 360 content have largely been Xbox Live Arcade games, Microsoft's also planning to release some new content for Project Gotham Racing 3, Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero in the near future.

For more on The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, check out our giganterrific review from the other week.

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Comments (91) Latest comment 6 years ago

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  • Kazzahdrane #1 6 years ago

    I can't wait until they add armoured codpieces into the game. Of course, I'd like that for my PC version but some nice person can probably just add such a thing in a mod.

  • gazareth #2 6 years ago

    £2 for HORSE ARMOUR?!

    WHAT

  • septimus #3 6 years ago

    Lame. My seemingly immortal horse doesn't need it.

    How can they charge for such a crap addon? It's a single player game, no one will see it. Which is probably good for the people that waste their money buying it, saves them justifying the purchase.

  • reality_cheque #4 6 years ago

    Is horse armour useful I take it? I'm not to sure about the whole £2 for it, but I imagine if I had the game I'd download it just because it was there.

    Oooh, if I download it, does my g/f get to use it on her live account? It is inevitable that we will get this game.

  • Thamuhacha #5 6 years ago

    That is rubbish

    If they think that they can just use a single player game as a cash cow then they can think again, as far as I am concerned anyway

    I'll pay a few quid for some new quests and areas. But horse armour? For £2?

    Utterly, utterly rubbish

  • myiagros #6 6 years ago

    does anyone else think, with it coming out this quickly, that it may have been left out of the game intentionaly to try and make a couple of extra quid on top?

    I can understand extra levels ect., but 1 extra horse armour, COME ON.

    I could understand if they had released a pack of extra stuff, but individual items seems a bit stupid.

  • Tonka #7 6 years ago

    On the topic of Oblivion and moding:
    I ripped the orchestral Zelda OoT soundtrack to my X360 and played Oblivion with the lovley Hyrule theme blasting. If only there was a way to map the songs to ingame events...

    It seemed to speed things up a bit to. Does anyone know if this is the case or is it just me?

  • Furbs #8 6 years ago

    Please! Noone buy it, its the only way they'll realise this is taking the piss. I dont mind paying for a decent expansion distributed over Live (if I have to that is, I'd still rather have it for free), but this is blatantly content which could have been included in the game.

    Its time to draw a line in the sand people!

    Wow, I feel like Bill Pullman in Independence Day.

  • Macross #9 6 years ago

    it entirely depends on how quick you are on getting off your horsey when you see monsters. If you tend to ride into combat alot they can end up killing your horse if your not careful.

    I'm on my 3rd horse now :(

    Saying that though you can get horses for quite cheap ingame if you go to the right town, so I'd hardly say this is worth £2 real money, unless you want to show off to your mates when they come round.

  • paulf #10 6 years ago

    It starts with horses, then it's weapons, then you won't be able to complete a game without buying the add on, time to put a stop to this now before it gets out of hand

  • Darren #11 6 years ago

    I must admit I bought the armour last night but on reflection £1.70 for it is more than a little ludicrous. I don't object to paying for new dungeons or areas to explore but it's a bit cheeky of Bethesda to charge for little things like armour when they should be free of charge or no more than 5 or 10 point each.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 11:20

  • Thamuhacha #12 6 years ago

    yeah

    "Now available on Xbox live: level 2 and game ending"

  • Furbs #13 6 years ago

    For the more "militant" among us, you may want to post a comment on MajorNelsons blog. Theres alot of criticism there (even though he says the pricing is not MS's idea - its Bethseda) and the more the merrier I guess.

    As he says - "Hey all…yes…I am reading the comments here. Thanks for the feedback, although we don’t set the pricing, I am happy to share your comments with the right folks."

    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 11:22

  • Bitkari #14 6 years ago

    //i'll provide something useful instead...

    Get the Shadowmere horse from the Dark Brotherhood by completing the first set of their missions. This horse is fast, can fight, and because it's a "plot" character, it can't die, just be rendered unconcious[ which does knock you off, unfortunately].

    Et voila, invincible horse, not needing of £1.70 armour.

    Just don't wander off picking Nirnroot only to have your steed wander off when you're not looking!
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 11:26

  • SeesThroughAll #15 6 years ago

    The notion of buying horse armor separately with real money is even sillier than buying WOW gold...

    I don't think they'll make much money out of this.

    *shrugs*

  • gizmo #16 6 years ago

    This is what REALLY worries me about the marketplace model.

    For a start, the trailers showed the horse armour in use - I assumed I would come across it later in the game. Not that I've lost any sleep over it. But nearly two quid??? Don't get me wrong, its not the money, its the principle.

    If they can't tempt me, with, not to sound vulgar, a huge disposable income, then who can they tempt? PLEASE NOBODY BUY THIS.

    Soon it will be paying for the best sword, the fastest car, the latest strip.

    F*** that.

  • Scientist #17 6 years ago

    Next thing you know mobile operators will start charging £2 for crappy wallpapers.

    Vote with your wallets.

  • Furbs #18 6 years ago

    And before PC owners get too smug, if you want the official horse pack, Bethseda have confirmed its going to cost you $1.99 too :S

  • LetsGo #19 6 years ago

    HEY! I gotta idea!!

    Lets leave loads of assets out of the game and sell em' to newbs on XboxLive!

    Wahooo!

  • kaosridder #20 6 years ago

    0.5 £ would have been alright with me, but this is a bit to steep. I wonder what models they used to find the best equilibrium price? Surely its dependent of the number of percieved customers which must have exceded initial expectations.

  • alimokrane #21 6 years ago

    £1.7 for just an armor. this is getting rediculous really .... that sort of amount of money should have been the price of an entire new level within the game and not just some stupid armor.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 11:45

  • Furbs #22 6 years ago

    I guess the novelty factor that made some fools pay for gamerpics has come back to bit us all on the arse :/

  • DoctorApricot #23 6 years ago

    Yes, we know games companies try to squeeze every last dime out of the consumer but we don't need to have that idea reinforced to us. It is quite outrageous that we have to pay £1.70 for just some horse armour - why couldn't that have been in the £49.99 game? All I can hope is that enough consumers refuse to buy this and send out a clear message that we don't want to pay for little extra content.

  • #24 6 years ago

    £2 for horse armour?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    Right, hands up who bought it?

  • gizmo #25 6 years ago

    They will monitor this very closely with regard to who hands over cash for what. The only way to make it go away and for them to see the model will not work is to NOT BUY. Even if it were 50p or cheaper, eventually we'll end up in a situation where they then have to offer so many different items at a low price (stack em high, sell em cheap) that our games will become totally fragmented.

    We'll end up with cupboards full of not unly un-completed, but also in-complete games!

  • jlaakso #26 6 years ago

    I'm perfectly willing to pay a little for a little something, but actual money for a single set of armor? Are you people insane?

    The clue to why micropayments might work is in the title: very small. While paying for a single set of armor is ridiculous enough, I still might do it if we were talking about micro sums.

  • Lost_in_Darkness #27 6 years ago

    MACROtransactions!!!


    Seriously though, the pricing is ludicrous and Bethesda already know the fans feelings on the pricing; they'll look into it.

  • Kostabi #28 6 years ago

    "yeah

    "Now available on Xbox live: level 2 and game ending""

    Aren't the upcoming SiN episodes a toe in the water approach for this kind of thing? With most people on broadband it can't be long before we're buying games per level.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 11:59

  • MyPointIs #29 6 years ago

    I also think the WHOLE WORLD should speak up and boicot these in-your-face ridiculous money milking schemes.

    But let's face it, we don't have the reach to warn all the idiots.

    They could sell virtual horse shit for £2.

  • Furbs #30 6 years ago

    And will anything happen if people dont complain? No.

    Hey if you like the idea of being charged for something which was already finished when the game shipped then great, personally I think its underhand, and overpriced.

  • El_MUERkO #31 6 years ago

    £2!!

    what a fucking rip off

  • Furbs #32 6 years ago

    But people will buy them, and unless a sizeable amount of people complain it'll make no difference. Sure, it may not make any difference anyway, but thankfully some companies still listen to their userbase.

  • jaxon58 #33 6 years ago

    This is taking the piss. I've just lost a little bit of respect for Bethesda :(

  • S.J.Rogers #34 6 years ago

    It’s a shame it costs £1.70, as I would really like a shiny horse.

    Wonders if the same people who have paid for this item, understand my sarcasm..?
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 12:18

  • smoison #35 6 years ago

    The real price of consols having a Hard Drive.

    Its funny this dosn't happen on PC games other then MMORPG's.

    For some reason people who play MMo's will pay for anything...

  • S.J.Rogers #36 6 years ago

    Oblivion Horse Shoes now on Xbox Live only £1.20 a pair.

    Make sue you purchase 2 pairs though, or your horse will run in circles.

  • Furbs #37 6 years ago

    smoison - the PC version costs $1.99 and is confirmed by Bethseda on 1up.com.

    Maybe read the thread before trolling? Will give you a better insight and more scope to be a dick :)

    Oh and have you forgotten the "BF2 Booster Packs"? They werent much more than this.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 12:25

  • UmBongo #38 6 years ago

    Dont even go there Baby!

    Look, add on packs? OK

    Call of duty expansion packs? Perfect, new levels, maps , adventures?

    Would i even pay 19.99 for a "half game pack"? Yes i would/

    But as many ppl rightly say on here this is ALL DOWNHILL FROM HERE if this gathers momentum.

    I could be wrong................. BUT

    I bet they have a WHOLE line of stuff, ready for sale, horse armour, new costumes, special swords etc... already there on the sidelines.

    They are just testing the water with this. Something like horse armour could easily have been put in the game.

    Yes i do partly blame MS. If it wasnt for their overpriced tiering system on Live. They wouldnt have the cheek to charge nearly 2 quid for something so menial.

    In older days you used to get modders changing the game, giving you it totally free!! MS et al want to lead you away from that.

    And make sure they charge you for the privelage of something you used to get for free.....

    /tsk

  • El_MUERkO #39 6 years ago

    " And before PC owners get too smug, if you want the official horse pack, Bethseda have confirmed its going to cost you $1.99 too :S"

    sure furbs, about 10 of us will, then it'll hit the torrent sites and people will show their displeasure with bandwidth

  • Ainudil #40 6 years ago

    This is bullocks.

    How about releasing a patch first Bethesda?

  • Furbs #41 6 years ago

    Interesting argument I guess - does that mean PC owners can get all smug because they can also torrent the full game?

  • smoison #42 6 years ago

    NO furbs, it means PC users don't let themselves get dicked around.

    Though you may like that.

    P:S Furbs, hade enough of your trolling, Congrats on becoming my first Ignore.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 12:38

  • Lost_in_Darkness #43 6 years ago

    Furbs, PC owners can just make their own one. The other posters comment shouldn't be taken into account as he's condoning stealing the item.

    Rather, with the TES Construction Set one can just as easily make an even better armour for the horse, whatever character or any type of items they wish. Many many mods will be available in due time, and best of all; completely free.

    With these items that Bethesda will be releasing, they could (and should) have already been included in the game, but they decided to hold them back so that they can make some extra money off of MS's live marketplace......i'm sure many other developers will be doing the same.

  • El_MUERkO #44 6 years ago

    Totally not interested in being dragged into a 'piracy' debate furbs

    ---

    I can see it now 'Due to the many complaints of our fans we here at Bethesda Softworks are happy to announce a 50% reduction in the cost of horse armour cause we love you all so much!'

    And the suckers will go '$1, yay for people power!', and buy a shed load of them :|

  • jellyhead #45 6 years ago

    All of a sudden it's not looking quite so rosy in 360 world, unless you're a dev holding back content that is. :(

    as for the pricing it'll be more like...

    'Due to the many complaints of extortionate pricing and the numbers of our fans that have turned to bit-torrent or who are making their own armour, we here at Bethesda Softworks are happy to announce a 50% increase in the cost of horse armour cause you are all miserable misers and we have to pay the YTS boy for all the work he did on curving some polygons into a u-shape and texturing them.'
    :)
    Edited by 2 at 04/04/06 @ 12:46

  • Narv #46 6 years ago

    I'm a PC owner of this game and glad I chose to buy it for myPC rather than my 360. Why?

    Well this for starters £1.70 /200 points / $1.99 for this is way too much regardless of platform.

    However, the PC version with it's mod kit allows me to summon my horse from anywhere on the map, have plenty of new weapons whatever and all for free and legit (el_muerko tut tut!).

    See here for starters Oblivion Source Mod List and much more will follow.

  • Teeth #47 6 years ago

    Bethesda LOL

  • Stormflood_UK #48 6 years ago

    It is a cheek. It's not extra content, it's held-back content. I'm happy to pay for new content that's created post-release, but charging for stuff that was included in the development budget that we've already paid for by buying the game is incredibly cynical.

  • Freek #49 6 years ago

    Welcome to Marketplace, please give us your money.

  • Thamuhacha #50 6 years ago

    >I'd pay $1.99 for a new guild with 10 new 'GOOD' missions.

    I'd pay a bit more than £1.99 for that

    But I won't pay anything for items

  • Dizzy #51 6 years ago

    BTW PC version is also buy only.

    A bit expensive Bethesda... please give us a bit more if you want us to pay!

    NO BUY

  • MyPointIs #52 6 years ago

    I think they made a mistake. The money they'll get is not going to be worth the bad publicity. If another object costs two pounds, the game should've been around a million pounds. And by this rule, how much is going to cost every bugfix?

  • Furbs #53 6 years ago

    El_MUERkO, then why bring it up?

    The "well we can make it ourselves" argument is all well and good too, but how many user made mods are genuinely as good as the real deal? I'm amazed at the indifference PC gamers are showing to this tbh. I for one would be a bit worried about say, Epic going down the "ah, they'll pay for it route" when it comes to maps in the next UT game. Again, theres user created content, but unlike official stuff these tend to not get distributed too well as anyone who tried to play custom maps on BF2 will tell you.

  • Scientist #54 6 years ago

    "The money they'll get is not going to be worth the bad publicity."

    But where is this bad publicity going to exist? In game website forums?
    It's not as if masinstream press is going to be up in arms because the games industry has unearthed a new revenue stream.
    There is "bad publicity" and then there storm-in-a-game-forum-tea-cup.

    Are you hardcore gamers going to boycott future Elder Scrolls titles? Or is everyone going to exercise their right not to buy?

    People are commenting as if they know Bethesda's business plan for Oblivion. Has nobody considered that this might have been a plan of theirs from day 1? Given that developrs/publishers were aware of marketplace a long time ago it seems fit that they may have actually thought about these cheeky new revenue streams in the design stage.

  • glaeken #55 6 years ago

    Must be an amazing mark up on this. Hell I bet they have lots of in game objects lying around that did not make the final cut that they can now release as extra content.

  • InfiniteFury #56 6 years ago

    I'd never heard the phrase before but someone on the TES forums described this practice as Bethseda "selling you a cow and then charging you for the milk" which I think sums it up very well.

    It adds nothing to the game. To extend the analogy further, were Bethseda selling you a few litres of high quality bull semen in order to produce another cow (ie new quest lines, factions), then that would be a worthwhile investment.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 13:35

  • SeesThroughAll #57 6 years ago

    For an example of a well implemented downloadable additional content in a game, there's NeverWinter Nights. Bioware probably planned this from day 1, but more than a year after the game was out on the shops, they started selling Bioware-produced modules (Each worth about another 5 hours of gameplay, give or take) for it. And it sold quite a bit because the quality exceeded most user-made modules. This kind of offering makes sense. Nearly-useless horse armor does not.

  • Fubdub #58 6 years ago

    There are several free mods made by Bethesda for Morrowind, most of them alot more content than this horse armour. I do think Bethesda will have to reconsider this new policy, because if they lose the support of the gaming community, they do lose word of mouth publicicy that can't be bought. Arguably much of the success of Oblivion is due to good word of mouth and having a reputation for being community friendly.

    On a second note, discarding the PC mod community seems genuinely arrogant. While alot of mods for Morrowind of course are shite at best, the number of epic mods that are fully on the level with the game itself is staggering considering that they are free of charge. I have no doubt that a horse armour that both looks better and plays at least as well (of course without breaking the game) will appear in no time for free.

  • Furbs #59 6 years ago

    I wasnt discarding it, merely commenting that 90%+ of it is pants and so to rely totally on it for new content is (imo) a bit naive.

  • groovychainsaw #60 6 years ago

    Agreed, i think the idea of a new quest line, with some original quest ideas (of which there are already plenty in the main game), and a good 5-10 hours of play would probably be worth - 800 points (about £6.40?) id be happy to pay that. However, two bits of horse armour for £1.70?! Crazy. I hope that people recognise this as a poor investment (Especially Oblivion players). But I really don't know anymore. Do the people who bought Goldeneye:Rouge (sic) Agent also buy oblivion. Because if they did, we're all screwed....

  • Freek #61 6 years ago

    Bad publicity within the gaming industrie is still bad publicity, it's not as if the industrie itself doesn't matter.
    If something gets posted on Penny Arcade for example, publishers and devs take notice.
    News gets around fast on the internet and gaming sites in general, if it's negative, even faster. It all depends on how many people you piss off. Ofcourse if enough people think selling individual pointless items is good then nothing happens.
    But I think it'll take a few more atampts like this, a few more games to go the cynical cash in route before it'll a bad rep and developers stop doing it.
    Marktetplace is suppose to be a place where you can buy things that add to the gameplay, not silly little trinkets.

  • TheDogsDinner #62 6 years ago

    FFS I cant believe how pissed off people have got about this. If you think its too expensive just dont buy it! Its a "Marketplace" nobody's forcing you

    Stop your whinging and actually appreciate what a great game it is

  • Freek #63 6 years ago

    Becuase god forbid somebody has an opinion on Marketplace that isn't glowing praise, the world would end!
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 13:53

  • Teeth #64 6 years ago

    C'mon, join the cynic's brigade! I'm pissed off by it and I don't even have a 360!

  • Freek #65 6 years ago

    Please, commenting on sometihng and being genuinly angry about something are two different things.
    Ofcourse people are just going to not buy it, doesn't stop them from saying why.

  • king_skins #66 6 years ago

    The horse armour is a bit shit and expensive, but I like the idea. The games industry has to find new revenue streams for its games at the moment practically all money that is made from a game is within the first couple of weeks.

    If you contrast that with movies they some out in the cinema, rental, shop, premium tv and then terrestrial. They have multiple revenue streams from them.

    The industry needs to find another revenue stream other than the first 4 weeks of shelf life and extra paid downloadable content is one way of doing this.

  • Stickman #67 6 years ago

    DogsDinner's right. Lets all stop having any opinion on anything.

  • Scientist #68 6 years ago

    "Marktetplace is suppose to be a place where you can buy things that add to the gameplay, not silly little trinkets."

    It's "supposed" to be a place where you can buy extra content AND trinkets. Microsoft always said as much to developers and publishers. This is just an, albeit pointless and overpriced, extension of themes.

    "If something gets posted on Penny Arcade for example, publishers and devs take notice."

    Yes, every week we have high level meetings to discuss how we can rectify the points raised by Penny Arcade so that we don't go bankrupt the following week. There's a difference between people reading Penny Arcade and the latter actually shaping the industry.

  • El_MUERkO #69 6 years ago

    @Furbs and others:

    I brought up torrents cause it'll happen, not may, not could, WILL.

    I'm not condoning it or condemning it, its simple if Beth want to see what 360 owners think they can look at sales, if they want to see what PC owners they can look at newnova.

  • Furbs #70 6 years ago

    Scientist, so the criticism of the DLC for PGR2 and RTCW being on the disc already did nothing to shape the move away from that?

    Criticism of games needing patches has nothing to do with hotfixes coming out? The complaints about GRAW not having Southpaw hasnt worried Ubi enough to say they are looking to add it in post launch?


    El Muerko, I still dont see the relevance here. Surely they could do the same with the game itself?
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 14:18

  • apan #71 6 years ago

    Personally I don't care. I don't even have Live. And I'm not angry at people trying to sell stuff. I'm mad because I slept in a cave and got vampyrism.
    Edited by 1 at 04/04/06 @ 14:31

  • Bumbuliuz #72 6 years ago

    I must be one of the few people I know that isint bothered by the price of this. So long a Bethedsa is making quality games they can have most or my money :) I bought a pc version for my future pc that im buying later this month and of course the mods. And I also bought the 360 for the comfort of playing the game on my Hdtv and my couch. The game looks fantastic on the 360 and I almost drool about knowing it will look better on my new pc ;)

    Amd X2 4800+
    Nividia Geeforce 7900 Gtx 512mb
    2gb DDr ram
    Dell 20.1 widescreen monitor
    Native rez 1680x1050

  • Cronan #73 6 years ago

    50% of the cost of a good Live Arcade game for horse armour. They must be mad. For 50 points, I might have considered it, but 200!

  • groovychainsaw #74 6 years ago

    its only the overpricing that is the problem - i have no objection to 'trinkets' such as these, and was in fact, happy to give bethesda, who have made this fantastic game, some extra money as a pat on the back. But this is too much, as somone said, its half the price of a full (albeit old) game. I don't like the precedent this will set if it sells well. I already object to paying £1.50ish for a simple picture for my 360, so two minor items in a game?

  • Thamuhacha #75 6 years ago

    @ Bumbuliuz

    An HDTV and a new PC? Well, you're obviously a rich bugger

    Can you spare 200 gamer points to keep my poor old horse warm?

  • Furbs #76 6 years ago

    You only have to buy it again with ingame currency! (500 gold iirc).

  • jellyhead #77 6 years ago

    Not if you get the 20p mixups, wizballs. :)

  • tengu #78 6 years ago

    Horse armour! OMGWTFLOL I need it now!1!

  • Bezzy #79 6 years ago

    I always end up punching the horses to death anyway.

    I'm glad they're in the game, but with fast travel, and no way to fight from off the back of them, they're redundant.

  • Xerx3s #80 6 years ago

    "Next thing you know mobile operators will start charging £2 for crappy wallpapers.

    Vote with your wallets."

    Dont they do that already? 0_o Anyway, it would have been acceptable if it was somewhere around 0-20 credits (obviously they invested time in it, so a small fee to compensate the costs would be in place), that would be 5 cents or something? I recon that i could live with that.... if they didnt release it right after the game making it look like a total ripoff.

  • Teeth #81 6 years ago

    MMUK, isn't it more the case that people are inferring that this content was deliberately left out of the final game so it could be sold on the marketplace? I.e. that it was planned as a featuer and then removed to add marketplace content. People haven't been talking about unlock keys that I can see.

  • w00t #82 6 years ago

    My 2p:

    1) If you don't want it don't buy it. Let other people buy it if they want to - it's their money.

    2) If the horse armour could have been included at initial but wasn't, then I am mildly disappointed in Bethesda.

    That is all.

  • Teeth #83 6 years ago

    But w00t, that's the point of premium content it's stuff they could have given you but either held back or developed after release to sell on the marketplace. Are you against the whole concept of premium content? Because I imagine that most 360 publishers will be offering premium content if they can.

  • Groggen #84 6 years ago

    Another thing that is worrying is... will we get any worthwhile expansion packs for OB if this becomes a gold mine for Beth? Why distribute a huge pack for 30 euros when they could release the same amount of content for 200 euros divided in 100 plug-ins?

  • Krun #85 6 years ago

    New monsters, areas, dungeons and quest I'll pay for.
    A Bundle of extra armour and weapons and spells; maybe.
    But an item for a horse I hardly use. No thanks.
    Make the horse download free, and put some bug fixes in with it.

  • IronGiant #86 6 years ago

    What a piss take, unfortunately there are some mugs that will buy anything.. which in the end will make it worse for all of us. If this is successful then it will creep into more and more games, expansion packs or new levels fair enough but crap like this they can shove.

  • BartonFink #87 6 years ago

    @krun +1

  • BartonFink #88 6 years ago

    As has been said in the forum vote with yer wallet don't bother with this shit. That will soon send a message to Bethesta/2K and their ilk

  • onyxbox #89 6 years ago

    how about they put some real effort into the dowloadable content and give us a patch that fixes the bugs!

  • w00t #90 6 years ago

    @Teeth

    I am not against the idea of premium content, merely the idea of making a game, then removing a part of it to sell for additional cash after the release of the 'chopped' version. I am also willing to bet that Bethesda are not the first or last to do this, if this is the case.

  • apan #91 6 years ago

    What's the problem? You don't need the horse armour. Don't buy it. There's probably lot's of things that didn't make it to the final game.

  • karstux #92 6 years ago

    I bet no-one would have gotten so worked up over the affair if, say, EA had been behind this. Everyone knows and is used to the idea that EA are evil, money-grubbing bastards. It's normal and expected of them to try and sqeeze the last penny out of us gamers.

    Thing is, most people (me included) thought that Bethesda were better than that. Thought that they cared about the goodwill of their customers, because, in the end, Bethesda as a company and the fans of TES shared a passion about free-form CRPG gaming. Hence all these nice freebies for Morrowind.

    Seems like those days are over. Bethsoft isn't about gaming, but about money. How stupid to lose a reputation like that over 2€ horse armor...