Dante's Inferno Review
Feel the burn.
Version tested: Xbox 360
Basing your game on a 14th century poem set in Hell has certain advantages. For starters, you don't have to pay copyright fees or worry about the author of the source material complaining you've bastardised his work. In fact you don't have to worry about anyone complaining as only 27 people in the world have bothered to read the thing, and half of them are lying.
But there are risks too. You can't employ many of the most popular action-adventure staples such as guns, cars, aliens, Nazis, wisecracking sidekicks and love interests with buttocks like two basketballs in a pillowcase. You're limited by the types of enemies you can create and the environments they can inhabit. As is the case with any game set in Hell, you risk ending up with one big lava level.
So what's a developer to do? Why, find another game with no guns, cars or aliens and rip it off, or so it would seem in the case of Dante's Inferno. In fact, this game has so many similarities to a certain other series it's hard to believe it wasn't originally called Dante's Infernof War.
True, you don't play as a muscular bloke in a loincloth who sports a pair of big blades and some swirly red body art. You play as a muscular bloke in chainmail who sports a single big blade and some cross-shaped red body art. You can jump and press other face buttons to perform light and heavy attacks. There are various combos to learn and new ones to unlock as the game progresses, along with magic attacks. Levels mainly involve hacking Hell's minions into little bits but are punctuated with set-pieces, simple puzzles, boss battles and quick-time events.
True, you're not out to avenge the death of your beloved family; you're out to rescue the soul of your beloved Beatrice. She bet the devil that Dante wouldn't betray her while out on one of his Crusades, and lost. So now, as Dante, you must battle through the nine circles of Hell - lust, greed, heresy, Ikea on a bank holiday Monday etc. - in a bid to get her back.

Not to be confused with Kanye's Inferno, in which the outspoken rapper falls asleep while holding a lit cigarette.
Guiding you on this journey is the poet Virgil, who uses the same technology employed by Princess Leia to appear as a ribbly blue hologram. He provides basic exposition at regular intervals and if you want to know more about what's going on, pressing R1 encourages him to explain further. All of Virgil's lines are suitably grave and sound like they were written in the 14th century. They were, in fact; his dialogue was lifted directly from the titular poem.
Unfortunately the rest of the script wasn't. It's packed with clichés and colloquialisms, and much of the voice acting is so naff that even the decent lines sound rubbish. Take the game's opening scene, in which you must battle none other than Death himself. This is less exciting than it sounds, partly because Death fights with all the speed and power of a sleepy kitten. But also because he spouts things like, "You dare to defy me, mortal?" in an American accent.

Or Dante's Cove, the gay horror soap opera starring Babylon 5's Tracy Scoggins. True story.
As you prepare to stove his head in for the final time he confirms himself as an utter weed by begging, "No, wait - please!" It doesn't feel like you're defeating the terrifying spectre of grim mortality so much as a baddie out of Thundercats.
Bosses do get harder to defeat as the game goes on, but not by much, and their dialogue doesn't improve. A few levels on from the Death episode you end up fighting a giant blue woman. It seems more likely her dialogue was cut and pasted from the Big Book of Videogame Clichés than Dante's epic poem. Highlights include: "You have given up the keys to the kingdom - and for what? The tits of a slave girl!"
Tits abound in Dante's Inferno, and not just in the script. The giant blue woman has giant blue tits, complete with independently animated nipples. At one point the nipples burst open and out comes an army of evil babies with scythes for arms. They crawl across the woman's breasts and she uses a giant blue hand to scoop them up and fling them at Dante. Freud would have not so much had a field day as a four-day music festival with six stages and sponsorship by O2.
Beatrice will use any excuse to get her tits out, such as being killed, being dead or being sad that Dante condemned her by fondling someone else's tits (which we get to see too, obviously). In a couple of instances only one of her breasts is shown, which is presumably meant to make you think you're looking at art rather than an excuse to whack in another tit. To balance things out, there are a few enemies who sport huge thorny penises - but they're actually women, as you can tell by their massive tits.
Before everyone starts calling me a mad old feminist lesbian (which I may become if I have to look at many more huge thorny penises), I'm not saying tits should be banned from videogames. Especially not 18-rated ones like Dante's Inferno. I do understand lots of people like tits (though I wonder how many of them really go from six to midnight when the tits are computer-generated, blue and spurting scythe-wielding babies).
I'm saying their use here feels silly, gratuitous and anomalous. It's as if EA hauled in a 14-year-old boy as a consultant and this was his best idea. The tits are not offensive, they're just daft, and not in keeping with the impression of artistic gravitas the game is attempting to generate.
There's a similar problem with the cut-scenes. These are a mixture of Bayeux tapestry-style animated tableaux and simple 2D cartoons, which are excellent, and traditional CGI scenes, which often aren't. They're full of silly dialogue, naff designs, over-the-top special effects and poor lip-synching. Dante's Inferno keeps trying to be a work of art but then panicking and remembering it's a videogame, and ending up a pretty generic one as a result.
At least many of the environments are impressive, particularly early on. The designers have made excellent use of the fire and brimstone at their disposal. There are some great grotesque details, like the doors you open stabbing the demons attached to them. There are lakes of molten gold and rivers of boiling blood, complete with dozens of drowning souls. There are plenty of sheer drops, towering columns and gaping chasms, all of which help create to the sensation that you are indeed on a vertical descent.

The best magic attack is Lust Storm, which is accompanied by orgasmic moans and should really be called the Je T'aime Moi Non Plus Combo.
While in a typical action-adventure you mind find yourself climbing walls covered with vines, here you scale boney cages behind which lost souls weep and wail. There's an awful lot of weeping and wailing throughout Dante's Inferno, not to mention regular bouts of dramatic choral howling. The gothic visuals, grisly death animations and harrowing audio effects combine to create an environment which is a pretty horrid and depressing place to be, appropriately.
The problem is you can't really take it all in due to the game's fixed camera. It works well enough from a practical point of view - the angles switch seamlessly and you're never left fighting enemies you can't see. But you can't use the right stick to look around, no matter how spectacular the scene. This is frustrating and makes the game feel dated, particularly if you're used to having such freedoms in games like Uncharted and Assassin's Creed.
The other issue is that as the game progresses, it all starts to look a bit samey. Stabbing demons to open doors is a novelty at first; 19 doors later it's become a time-consuming interruption, and you can't help wishing they'd just put a switch in. All the weeping and wailing gets a bit much and the choral howling begins to repeat itself. Those environmental details begin to crop up too often - once you've rappelled down one wall of suppurating fire-breathing rectums, you've rappelled down them all.
The repetition really kicks in during the last few levels. The penultimate circle is simply a series of arenas in which you must complete a series of boring challenges - defeat all the enemies, defeat all the enemies without using magic, defeat all the enemies except this time there's more of them, and so on. Every arena looks pretty much the same and all the enemies have featured in previous levels. You might think this is training preparation for the epic, hardcore final circle - but without wishing to spoil anything, you might be disappointed.
The combat also starts to feel repetitive as the game goes on, despite the presence of a character progression system. As you defeat enemies you absorb their souls. These can then be used to buy new Holy and Unholy moves via a ninetiestastic talent tree. All of the moves have silly names like Soul Stabber and Abominable Slam, suggesting they've been inspired by the works of Stone Cold Steve Austin rather than Dante Aligheri. All of them can be ignored completely in favour of mashing away at the buttons.
You can earn extra souls by spearing enemies with your scythe, then choosing whether to Absolve them (by hammering one button) or Punish them (by pressing another). During this process any nearby minions of Hell who were in the middle of attacking you will stand back politely, as though waiting their turn for the hummus spoon at a buffet. It only takes an extra second or two but by the time you're several levels and a few hundred enemies in, it seems a lot easier to forget the spear business altogether and just hack everyone up.
Throughout the game you'll come across the souls of historical figures condemned to Hell for horrendous crimes, and once again you can choose to Absolve or Punish them. Just like in real life, being bad is more fun - pick Punish and you get to watch Dante scythe the poor unfortunate in the face. Pick Absolve and you must play a mind-numbing mini-game which involves hitting the various face buttons as icons pass through them. It's like a rubbish rhythm-action game, except there isn't any music. The reward for taking the holier path is extra Souls to buy more moves with, but the mini-game is so dull I'd pay actual pound coins not to play it again.
The few puzzles in the game are no more inspired. They all involve pulling switches and/or pushing crates (sorry, Mr Scriptwriter, but a crate is still a crate even if you call it a "slider"). Some aren't really puzzles at all. In one area, faced with three moving platforms, a pair of switches and two time delays, I spent ages trying to think laterally - only to discover the solution was just to run really fast. The answer to another puzzle, where a switch had descended into the floor, turned out to be killing all the enemies to make it magically reappear.

Will there be a sequel? Dante wrote two more poems and EA spent millions on this game. You do the "math".
So yes, you can add Dull Puzzles to the list of things which make Dante's Inferno worth avoiding - a list which already includes Repetitive Level Design, Daft Cut-Scenes and Generally Feeling Like It Was Made About Five Years Ago. Not to mention the fact it is physically impossible for anyone in the world to look at this game for more than 30 seconds without going, "Oh, it's like God of War."
But that fact is this game's saving grace. Let's not forget that the God of War titles are great, and in aping them so closely Dante's Inferno has ended up with some redeeming features. Punching, slicing, chopping and hacking your way through hordes of horned enemies is fundamentally enjoyable. The suitably gory animations make it rewarding, regardless of whether you're button-mashing or bothering to pull off the proper combos.
Also, there are some entertaining set-pieces and great visuals. Plenty of inspiration has been taken from the source material and this vision of Hell is at times truly grisly, atmospheric and harrowing. With that in mind, it's almost possible to ignore how depressing it is that even when you're in the darkest, fieriest bowels of Hell, surrounded by the agonised screaming of a thousand tormented souls, you still have to push a crate to open a door.
But you can't ignore the fact this is a God of War clone at its core, and many of the ideas here feel tired, familiar and dated. Nor can you ignore the fact that God of War III is nearly here. If it's a toss-up between that game and this one, as it probably will be for PS3 fans, you're best off waiting to see how Kratos' next adventure turns out.
All the same, Dante's Inferno is worth considering if you're a diehard hack-and-slasher fan who loves blood, gore, fire, brimstone, layered but simplistic combat systems and tits. This is more than one big lava level and it's not a terrible game. It's just not an original one, and it's arrived a little too late.
6 / 10
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/cancels pre-order and waits patiently for bargain bin entrance...
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/ waits for Bioshock 2 review
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SOLD!
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more like purgatory.
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Tits are fine but really, in an industry struggling to be taken seriously, need to be used in a sensible and grown up fashion.
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I hope the postie delivers mine tomorrow.
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(edit) Actually, now i've reread it sober, i think it's quite good
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That's probably 100 times more than their entire marketing budget for Dead Space : Extraction.
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How disappointing. The ornithologist in me was quite excited about the concept of a boss woman with a pair of exploding bluetits.
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As for the demo. I liked it. I thought the combat was fun and certainly no worse than anything GOW has thrown at me. I hate quicktime events but, again a certain other game is chock full of the nonsense. Door needs opening! Quicktime, Chest needs opening! Quicktime etc. etc. And don't get me started on repetitive enemies!
Luckily other reviewers have actually played Dantes!
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It is clearly not worth more than the £15 you could get either of GoW or GoWII for, so once it gets below that price i will look forward to playing it. With so few ideas of its own, there is no way i could justify a full price purchase.
I can't wait for GoWIII, i can wait for this, but am sure i will enjoy it, once the price is right.
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Thanks Barry, you've just vindicated EA's decision to put more effort into breasts than originality. At least put some effort in if you are trying to be insulting.
"Wtf !!! Is this LesbianGamer or sumfink ?? Titzrock".
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I advise the reviewer to watch some of the interviews with the devs about how they approached each circle of hell, it was WAY more complex than just putting in titties, you made yourself sound like a total tool (and even spent like 2 pargaraphs doing it, bitter much!?).
Oh, and lol @ captain save-a-hos downrating me
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Glad I held out for GOWIII now, though I was tempted by this.
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Wait, you mean lesbians don't like tits?
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Be very afraid,Sony fans...
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Eurogamer continually shows that it has little integrity. I'm almost willing to bet money that GOW3 will be reviewed by whoever on staff is willing to give it the most marks.
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I think reviewers should be VERY careful with calling something overdone/tired. They play almost all the games, but most of the buyers only buy a few games a year and are not subject to experiencing numerous games in the same genre. Just compare the quality of the game to other games in the genre, but try to withdraw from letting the boredom of playing games for a living cloud your judgement.
How many GoW style games are there on the xbox 360?
EDIT: the review was very enjoyable to read though, loved the ikea on bank holiday reference
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This happens too much on this site, just like Ratchet and Clank - A Crack in Time was unfairly criticised for apparently doing nothing new (even though it did, and it was a superbly polished, fun game)
Anyway, can't wait for this and God of War III.
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Not everything. GOW's puzzles were sometimes actually quite ingenious, well beyond basic crate pushing/lever pulling. Because of this both games had an 'adventure' feel that prevented the hacking and slashing from becoming too repetitive. I think that's what may be missing here..
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PS Focus 89/100
Digital Chumpos 88/100
SpazioGames 88/100
Planet Xbox 86/100
XNG 88/100
GamesDaily 8/10
OXBM 8/10
Eurogames 6/10
The game seems to be mostly great in most areas but marks knocked off because it's similar to other games!...Isn't GoW similar to Ninja Gaiden (though more skill is required in NG) ? ...Also a game with the best fighting Bayonetta got knocked down a bit due to it being GoW clone!!!...Which in fact GoW is also a clone of other games.
Zelda has always copied it's same formula everytime; as has Street Fighter, almost every racing game, Jrpg's, Fps etc etc...Yet when a hack & slash game comes it's always nit picking the same story of being a clone! GoW is also a hack & slash game that has copied form others and is mainly a button masher (no real strategy needed if fighting), but it seems that only GoW can do these hack & slash games - no one else.
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What I have received from reading a few reviews out there for Dante is that the production value is high, it steals a lot of gameplay elements from GOW (which it does) and its a very enjoyable game. For people that have played GOW 1/2 then yes the game will be very familiar but newbies it should be a fresh enough experience.
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I didn't just dislike the game because of the God of War similarities, or the tits. I found it got repetitive and felt dated, that the cut-scenes were silly and the puzzles were unimaginative, amongst other things mentioned in the review... Sorry if this wasn't clear enough.
I did like some things about Dante's Inferno, and I as I said I do think diehard fans of the genre will find stuff to enjoy here - which is why it got 6 and not, say, 3 or 4.
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Actually theres (almost) 3
Bad attempt at fan-baiting anthony daniels, not that its the first time though eh?
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Anyway there are plenty of websites out there with low standards who write reviews that reflect what their readership want to hear, rather than honest accounts, so go read one of them and I guarantee within a few moments you'll feel a lot better.
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Case in point would be DarkSiders. This site I believe gave it an 8 but there were some sites that gave the game a low 7. I read those reviews as much as the high reviews to get a difference of opinion. Once I understood that the negatives were not negatives for me, I bought the game and it was a deserved purchase for me.
Right now, after reading a few reviews, I can see the negatives in Ellie review are not negatives for me so Dante is looking like a purchase.
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As opposed to writing what they don't want to hear? I dunno who benefits from a review that nobody agrees with really.
Sure, I know that the lame approach to reviewing games that a lot of sites display isn't helping either, but I'm honestly a bit worried when a low score that sticks out from the norm is hailed as more "honest" just because it's low.
It's a weird measure to go by perhaps, but Dead Space turned out a far better game than people originally seemed willing to understand. With the immense vocal abuse this has taken, from the fact that it's a videogame interpretation of the Divine Comedy, through the borrowed GoW template, to its use of sexy bits and nutty marketing, I dunno if anyone is even capable of giving the actual game a fair shake.
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A woman has had the audacity to not only review a game aimed squarely at boys, but to give it a lower score than the mass of other reviewers, who are incidentally probably all boys.
Perhaps we should be happy to see an alternative point of view, rather than feeling angry or threatened by it. Perhaps it isn't Ellie that's at fault here. Perhaps this game really isn't all that good, and the boys are scoring it higher than they should because, you know, boobies always win.
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Gary_Hardman, your incisive arguments re the titties have shaped a brand new opinion within me.
[pause for comic effect]
you're an eejit.
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I'm not saying it's honest because it has a low score at all, I just have no reason to assume this review isn't or suffers from being written by a writer with a vested interest or motive to hate. Many of the sites giving it scores nearer 8 are probably honest accounts too, but I oppose the kind of argument built on comparing scores to other websites and tend to view EG as a site that doesn't indulge in writing dull accounts inline with the general consensus.
But then I only have to view the MGS comments section to give up caring what the vast majority of people on here think.
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Yes, you've made that clear. You think it should have been written by a man.
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Funny to read BTW. Good job!
After the brilliant Bayonetta I expect a lot of hack-and-slash games to struggle with good scores.
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Dude shhhh, six foot is the standard depth, there's no need for further digging.
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Strange.
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Guess I'll give Conan a try then. Never heard of it.
I in no way have a real opinion about this game, I have never played it. I just find reviews that use the tired and overdone cliche are really short-sighted. I realise it's just an opinion, but a reviewer should really try to see past the "I personally have played all the games in this genre and I don't want another one" because this not a reality for 99% of the readers of a review.
Especially so in this case where on the xbox 360 there are very few games of this kind. I guess you could call Darksiders one in the same genre, depending on how broad you define this genre, as it has some very different influences as well.
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Fixed that for you.
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What?
You have Darksiders and Bayonetta just the last few weeks. Bayonetta probably being the best of the genre this gen.
Then you have Ninja Gaiden, that Viking game and Conan. Both also better than 6
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(when the right price comes along of course)
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http://uk .xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1...
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Second page: mediocre
Third page: This one is up to published standard
Second time a review has been so poorly written with ridiculous comparisons that I nearly stopped reading. Second time it's an Ellie review. Time to see what other websites think.
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There are times when I think gaming as a medium and a social activity are really getting somewhere, then there are times when I think, nope it's still just a load of socially retarded teenage boys acting out their slightly embarrassing fantasies.
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I'm not knocking her for it, I'm... okay, I am knocking her for it, but if she's allowed to be subjective, so am I.
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This isn't about men being better than women.
This is like getting a Jew to do a book review of The Bible.
Any opinion of black or muslim reviewers that you'd like to share?
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Where you will be available as a bare-moobed demon in forthcoming DLC.
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No.
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>>Then you have Ninja Gaiden, that Viking game and Conan. Both also better than 6
Like I said, you could argue that Darksiders is in the same genre. Bayonette is (even) more of a stretch. I don't know anything about Viking or conan games so you could be right about that.
My point is not that being the only one in a genre is a good reason to give a game a better score. If there is better there is better. My point is that saying this genre is tired and overdone is not a solid argument. On one hand because many people don't play so many games that they will feel the same. Second because (at least on the xbox360), there are not many of these type of games so it's not like non-playstation owners have that many games of this genre to play even if they want it.
Again, if it's an average game it's an average game and it shouldn't get higher scores because there are not many games like it on the system.
I'll shut up about it now.
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By the GoW didn't innovate anything - just been playing GoW Collection and seems much more as a no brainer action game, with the odd puzzle.
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so do some research, play the demo, look at the press clippings, rather than putting your game buying decisions into one website reviews hands...
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Personally I dont care if a games got tits in it or not, if I want to see a pair of massive majungers ill go buy Lolo Ferrari's bouncy time on DVD.
Thanks for the review Ellie, I dont need another cloned hack n' slash right now as Ive just finished GOW Collection, so this will save me some time and money.
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It's more about a site's standing with people and how much it'll actually dictate what people *think* about a game. This review's score will be taken to mean that it's "shite", and that's what you'll have people within the community - that haven't even played the game - reciting. Oh and also, how EG was brave and independent and spoke the truth. You could say the same about Destructoid giving Assassin's Creed 2 a 4.5, and now they handed Dante's Inferno a 9.0.
That's the annoyance I think, and what propels people to get so defensive about it.
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The demo bored me, and this review confirms suspicions. I am happy to trust it. If you're not, more power to you.
But really, guys? Chill.
THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID CHILL.
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prefer this one over bayonetta,mos def!
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Do yourselves a favour and get a good game.
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Interesting, disappointing score though
I'll grab it when it's on sale, if only for the visuals.
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This is just like when a Wii game is given a poor score and the whingers all complain that it's not 'written with tthe audience in mind'.
Get over yourselves.
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With golden lines like this in the text... This may be the greatest videogame review ever written. Ellie, I salute you for keeping the proud traditions of how a game review is supposed to be done alive.
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It got a 6/10, get over it.
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It's madness that this thing was ever approved and will now be bought by human beings. It's as if the lowest common denominator's pet rock has suddenly become the new go-to demographic for videogames publishers.
Dante Alighieri was insane, but I think even he would've said, "Woah, broze, let's calm down a bit and think about this."
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5
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The game is a self confessed hack and slash, taking it back to true platforming madness. Streets of Rage stylee. Hands up online co-op? Hell to the yes.
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'Hands up online co-op? Hell to the yes. '
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Erm, your the only one with your hand raised?
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Dante attracted me only cos of the premise and idea of seeing another interpretation of hell, hack and slash can be fun if well implemented and interesting enough. Conan and Viking were passable but got bored too quickly.
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It was clear to me in the first 10 seconds that this was heading to the 6-7 regions of review scores.
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Only girls and gays don't like boobies.
I hope the postie delivers mine tomorrow.
What did you order, a girl or a gay?
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Also, this just in: reviews are subjective. Well fuck-a-doodle-do! If you really dislike Eurogamer so much I suggest you do one and don't bother coming back.
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This comments thread on the other hand, well it seems clear that misogynistic teenage boys combined with platform fanboyism is a particularly toxic mixture. Who'd have thought?
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It should get an 8 because of the graphics and because EA has crunch time all the time?
Bollocks. It's a shit game, based on a poem no-one at EA has read.
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Great review.
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A Heavy Rain-like adventure instead, now that could have been something. But for now, please don't buy this game so the same team also makes Macbeth into a game *shudders*. Don't mention the Scottish play... as a videogame! This is the kind of thing that gives the whole business such a bad rep.
Anyway, fantastic read, Ellie. Always a laugh, and this review told me all I need to know.
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Also, good work on inviting a fucking banal, high-school, Freudian interpretation of the art design.
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>>"Again, if it's an average game it's an average game and it shouldn't get higher scores because there are not many games like it on the system."
>>Contradiction?
Nope, read it again (check the NOT in the first sentance). I could have formulated it better though.
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Aahhhhh. Hot potato, off his drawers, Puck will make amends.
/ pinches nose
Aahhhhh.
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some posts here read like the textbook definition for "chauvinistic" and "immature"
...another game that mistakes "maturity" with "showing tits and blood", but I guess that was to be expected from a god of war clone based on Dante's Inferno. I wonder when they make a GOW-clone based on breakfast at tiffanys?
Awesome review Ellie, hope you'll review GOW3!
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After reading this review and the IGN reviews, I've cancelled my preorder.
Looking forward to the inevitable EDGE 5/10
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You're right but I think all the score inflation with all the 7's and 8' has meant that its easy to lose perspective.
I gonna be a long a painful process to reign in scores and make 5 = average.
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Seriously people grow the hell up,
I have played games that have had the shitest review possible yet i have still played them because i enjoy them.
If you like the game go play it stop ranting about it, perhaps you could debate it and put across your opinion maturely although that doesn't seem possible.
Just because the review doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't make it wrong, hell i thought Halo ODST was a complete rip off bearing in mind i had bought the map packs. That still got an 8 or 9 or whatever it was, i don't agree with that score, but its not like it caught me with my hands down my trousers jacking off and completely killed my erection now is it not the end of the fucking world seriously people need to grow the fuck up on this forum. If any of you are posting this shit and are under 18 shut the hell up your going to be washing up for a week just so you can get your mum to buy it for you, and then complain that someone who is actually old enough to buy the game has got it wrong.
Fucking kids, should be a law to punch them in the face everytime they talk shit.
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Yeah, I think the reason EDGE works is that their scoring seems consistent. I still value the opinions at EG, but there seems to be a bit of a divide between different reviewers and their attitude towards the scoring system.
To everyone his own of course, that goes without saying (though judging by how voted down my comment was earlier, reiterating the point can't hurt, hehe) but Fable 2 recieving a 10 doesn't seem logical. There's a little bit of the sense - in my opinion - that EG's scores are more symbolic than anything. Maybe that's how it's supposed to be, but when it's used merely to drive a point across and not as a measurement, as a system it pretty much falls apart. It fluctuates up and down with no discernable internal logic.
It would be nice to get some handle on whether people find Eurogamer's scores to be helpful when purchasing games. It's one thing to find solace in the "one review that thinks this here game is as rubbish as you already do" and another to stave off heartbreak.
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"The fact is the only review on the internet that is bad was written by a woman. "
Nope. There are other bad-to-middling reviews for this game. The reviews that I think sheds most light on why this might not rate well compared to GOW 1 & 2 is this one at 1UP and this one at IGN UK.
Pity, really. Before this review, I had been looking forward to renting this at my local Blockbuster's when it came out [can't afford to buy games right now
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LOL. Bayonetta (360 version) is the best game of this kind ever made. I doubt GOW3 will change that.
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or chicken angels in butt spanking uber camp pantomime.
don't get me wrong, I love bayonetta, but for serious, high mythology it works in completely different ways to GoW. GoW is epic, Bayonetta is campy OTT fun.
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I always wondered why I never cast a shadow.
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Fantastic review.
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So to be fair on Ellie her view (tits or no) is in line with the rest of the press...
"Solid game but unoriginal and not really as good as its inspiration... but if you don't have a PS3 its probably worth picking up."
The final score 6/10 is just a damn number... and is not the worst out there. Edge it up a point or so if you can't play GoW 1-3 as you are likely to be less disappointed.
Reviews are there to give you a feeling whether you will like the game or now - not to tell you to buy it or not... unless you are REALLY DUMB!
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@ TRUTH: Yes, GoW is similar to Ninja Gaiden. But DI isn't similar to GoW, it's identical. Right down to having to hammer a button to open the chests of health and magic. The skills tree isn't just "ninetiestastic", it contains virtually the same moves as GoW in the same positions. GoW II differed more from GoW than this does. If you have played GoW, there is very little to be gained from playing this game. If you haven't played GoW, then play that instead!
It's interesting. If GoW is worth a 9/10 and DI is identical, should that make it a 9 too? Maybe it depends on whether you own a Sony console to play the original. I was bored shitless by the end of the DI demo as I just felt like I'd played it before. It was like doing a 2nd playthrough of GoW. In my opinion, you've got to mark stuff down if that's the impression that it gives, whether the reader has played GoW or not. From the demo at least, this is the most derivative and unimaginative game I have ever played.
"No mention of the different themes used in the 9 circles of Hell? ... I haven't played the game"
@ Teh9182: Maybe it just doesn't come across? In fact, I believe Ellie mentioned it all looking very samey. Bearing in mind you haven't played the game, I'm inclined to go with the opinion of someone who has...
@ Ellie: Page 2, paragraph 6 there's a typo your spellchecker will have missed where you wrote 'mind' instead of 'might'.
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I don't care much about review scores in general.
Currently I play the 5/10 EDGE rated "The Saboteur" and I have tons of fun with it.
Over at 4players.de (a German videogames review site) they had over 2000 comments (usually they get around 100 per review) because they rated Mass Effect 2 82/100 "only". There was so much hate going on that the chief editor wrote a column scorning all those fanboys that feel their day is ruined if someone is not of their opion and makes them unable to enjoy their game.
Lighten up people it's a goddamn hobby not something worth a jihad!
Planning to pick up the game for the "tits" when it hit bargain bins for a laugh.
Looking forward to read more Ellie reviews in the future + the live feeds of Sony press conferences!
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SOLD!
Seriously tho, I still do wanna play this game. Maybe I'll trade it or wait till the price drops. Currently playing the rather excellent Darksiders, and this looks like an inferior game to that.
Those Hellish levels look inviting tho.
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Edge will fucking hate this game. They're not the biggest fans of GoW anyway, so a poorer carbon copy which mistakes nudity and gore for maturity will totally rub them the wrong way. I wouldn't be surprised to see it get a 3 or a 4.
Bravestinsane - "Fucking kids, should be a law to punch them in the face everytime they talk shit."
You are a legend!
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"O how my speech falls short, how faint it is
For my conception! And for what I saw
It is not enough to say that I say little"
Paradiso XXXIII 121
Translation
Game developers hire some one to write a bloody story for your new game instead of butchering a classic!
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http://ww w.metacritic.com/search/process...
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Perhaps I am destined to visit hell?
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Ive also been waiting for a game to shamelessly rip off GoW but in a different mythology & im sure as hell not sick of hack & slashers yet. I'll be getting both this & GoW3 & im sure i'll love them both.
Plus, I still dont understand whats wrong with a bit of gratuitus T&A every so often? Its in every over entertainment medium - whys it so wrong when its in ours? Especially in this setting & the Lust circle.
Still, if Ellie didnt like it fair enough. Thats her opinion. Im sure im going to love it. Probably for same reasons she didnt lol.
Got mine pre-ordered & cant wait
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"The problem is you can't really take it all in due to the game's fixed camera. It works well enough from a practical point of view - the angles switch seamlessly and you're never left fighting enemies you can't see. But you can't use the right stick to look around, no matter how spectacular the scene. This is frustrating and makes the game feel dated, particularly if you're used to having such freedoms in games like Uncharted and Assassin's Creed."
Will be interesting to see if this and other "flaws" are picked up in in the GoW3 review...
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The fact of the matter is "tits" don't make anything a man's game. It makes it a boy's game. There is a massive distinction and I'm rather offended as a man. This is pretty much the exact reason gamers are seen with such disdain by others.
Also I'm on the list of the 27 people who have read the original.
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that actually made me laugh out loud!
nice one
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Damn you James Cameron. See what you did? They're everywhere now!
Great review Ellie, loved the 9 Circles of Hell Ikea reference.
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Lets wait for the nonexclusive reviews shall we. It wont stay in the 90s for long on metacritic. BS2 is a very good game but its no AC2 or ME2 when it comes to improvements over the original. The hacking is actually worse now. The multiplayer is pretty good though.
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I suppose I should thank some of you at least for verifying that I am not nearly as much of a prick as I thought I was.
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The sexism displayed openly towards her by a large majority of her critics is shocking. I thought in the 21st century we had gone beyond such discrimination?
Oh hang on, this is a group where the word Gay is freely used as an insult. Maybe not then
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It's not really sexism, it's immaturity. They'll change their opinions when (and if) they eventually get laid.
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Never bothered to offer my opinion on this sort of thing before, but this reviewer is receiving unnecessary stick for this review. Could'nt give two shits for the game mind, tits or no tits, but it seemed a fair review, quite amusing too. More "hummus" please.
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It has been stated before that there's no point in arguing about this (or any, for that matter) review, as it's only the subjective opinion of the reviewer. There's a demo out there to see for yourself if it floats your boat. If you disagree with this score or cannot wait getting your hands on a new hack 'n' slash game or are just envy about GoW3 being PS3-only, just vote with your wallets, buy the game and enjoy it (or not
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Or I just wish that it was a wacky marketing stunt.
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As for Edge's forthcoming review, if 95% of it isn't taken up by the reviewer showing off his deep understanding of the 'source material', with the remaining 5% ridiculing the game as an adaptation rather than weighing up its values as a hack & slasher, then I'm going to cancel my subscription.
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Most Fifa games are similar, as are most FPS games etc etc
I will purchase Dante's Inferno, because I know that not every game has to be totally original, as much as we'd like, but the more important aspect is fun and enjoyment. I enjoyed the God of War games on my PS2 and PSP, so I'll check this out, thanks. It'll sit nicely next to Bayonetta and Darksiders, two games that also silenced a lot of early crap talk about them.
There will be the die hard book lovers, who'll wave their righteousness, saying 'I told you so, don't buy this crap', but we all know their minds were decided from day one of DI conception. Get over yourselves.
Overall, I'll wait for the Edge and Games TM reviews, becuase I know that they will dig into the guts of the game, and examine it better than EG. Either way, this game will sit in my collection.
I like the second opinion idea, that could work well for reviews. I also think if your review structure gets too loose, then use paragraphs to focus on each of the games aspects, one after the other close up (eg Gameplay , graphics, sound, etc.
Still the PSP version of Dante's Inferno to be reviewed yet, people. That should be interesting.
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@SpaceMonkey: your arrogance is astounding. Who the fuck do you think you are telling Ellie how to review games? She gets paid for this, do you?
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I think it's a bit unfair some of these reviewers marking it down, simply for these main two reasons.
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Good god, is this how far we've come? Literacy is really wasted on some people.
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I thought it would get a 5 from the article though. (maybe because hack and slash appeals to me like an enema)
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Anyway, the epic views of the depths of hell accompanied by 'The Omen' type music are incredible at times, not forgetting the superb framerate which makes the combat far more enjoyably and responsive.
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The boss battles were good and in some instances felt really involving.
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Res Ipsa locator
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You forgot to mention these:
Bayonetta reviewer: Simon
Darksiders reviewer: Tom
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]http://xb ox360.ign.com/articles/106/1064...[/link]
Her is the right link. Something went wrong. And yes it is almost 2000 comments on it.
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People are slagging it because it's GoW clone (though many games are clones from Mario to Zelda to Fps and even GoW), or because it's not true to the original script - WHO CARES!
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I don't know why should I get bashed in any way. I think Ellie sounds as if she just isn't into the atmosphere of this game and some of her critics just seem "forced", as some of the shock value she says the designers introduced in some parts of this game.
For me it sounds more like me reviewing a FIFA when I hate sports games... but oh well, as I said it's just how I feel it.
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The misogyny in some of the posts is baffling and a rather 19th century outlook on equality.
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Just a thought...
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I should note I have never played God of War as it was a PS exclusive and I can't stand the PS controllers.
Perhaps just play the game for yourself, some of these reviewers have terrible taste IMHO
ps Bayonetta is terrible, unless you love cheesy j-pop
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Well, then I'm sure you're glad to hear that Edge gave Dante's Inferno a 6. Yes, that's exactly the same score Ellie gave. Looks like all the digging in guts of the game didn't reveal much more than Ellie found as well
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I mean, it's all well and good that God of War was awesomely amazing, but considering you need a PS3/PS2 to play it and a lot of people interested in this game (most, I would say considering GOW3 is coming out for the other system) will be 360 users, it's a completely redundant criticism to have.
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DI is designed to be 'adult' as hell isn't pritty - in fact even the first circle is down right disturbing and it gets wrose as you go, much like Dead space got more and more tense as you progressed, it's a gem on the eyes, but I do agree if your waiting on GoW get that first come back to this later when the mutiplayer and editor content is ready as it stands it's only half the package atm..
This game SHOULD be a 8/9 if GoW wasn't in the picture but it's the fact that GoW3 is close to release it's getting dragged down, like I said 360 owners game this game now PS3 ones hold off if you want to feel like it's value for money gameplay wise compeared to what's around the croner
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Theres nothing wrong with DI at all. If you like this sort of game then give yourself a break and get it.
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The last line seems to sum up every single opinion in this thread
"All the same, Dante's Inferno is worth considering if you're a diehard hack-and-slasher fan who loves blood, gore, fire, brimstone, layered but simplistic combat systems and tits. This is more than one big lava level and it's not a terrible game. It's just not an original one, and it's arrived a little too late."
If you like hack and slash games and don't require originality, you'll enjoy it.
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I am going to give you £ 200 to buy a Ps3 so I dont have to read your pathetic fanboy drivel on every keystroke. God its painful.
Whats the latest, wabbling on about mass effect 2. Looks like a good game if you like RPG and converstaions. I skip all cut scenes, and traded in Oblivion after 2 hours god it was boring. Would need to play a good demo to ever venture into such a game again.
Uncharted 2 has multiplayer survival and coop, so much better, as is ODST, COD WAW, crackdown.
Choosing classes, playing around with menus, managing things, rather poke my eyes out. Unless there was coop, then that might make me suffer it.
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I wasn't really planning on getting this game in the first place but wow Eurogamer -- wow.
Your reviews are increasingly starting to sound like personal blogs instead of material written for your viewers.
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I remember when it used to be ok to have a dissenting opinion.
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Apparantly I'm not at the worst bit, which is the last third of the game. Damn, will have to get this on eBay quick to recoup some cash.
Still, at least they focused primarily on getting a constant 60fps.
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hehe. fantastic
reviews like this are the reason I still read EG.
+1 Ellie.
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Have shoved it on UK Ebay if anyone wants to bid.
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The game loses all of its gameplay early on for being to easy. Fun at times, but mostly frustrating due to the camera, lack of real combos, and predictive gameplay. The shock factor of the enemies, blood, gore, boobs and the like wears of extremely fast.
6 is well deserved.
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Droopy are they?
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Or maybe you had penis failure while reading her review?
Droopy, is it?
(or just fuzzy?)