Argos claims 60GB 360 discontinued News

yeah like MS comment on anything!

Microsoft know the Sony price cut is coming, plus the hardware relaunch with the Sony PlayStation 3 'slim', so they've discontinued the Pro and will reprice the Elite at its price point.

The interesting question will be whether Microsoft reprice the Arcade model too.

Bollocks i bought one of these last week! If i held off another few weeks i could of got an elite for the same price! Sods law strikes again.

+1 Stoo Monster

The PS3 slim + price cut is definitely coming and Microsoft are moving to try and stop a huge number of sales going Sonys way.

Spare a thought for the poor sods still on the 20GB iteration. : (

This is a very good decision. The Elite is the only way to go imo. You need a 120gb HDD anyway. The arcade is rubbish and is an excuse to have the cheapest console on the market i guess. I have a premium(release model), pro and an Elite version of 360 btw.

all I have is a 20GB HDD as my 360 is on it's way to Frankfurt

@ muscleblade: why do you have so many? what do you have - like 3 hands or something?

I'm always amazed at how many 360 owners have more than one 360.

Even though i have a 120Gb i have only about 11Gb free space right now. Even that size is getting too small imo.

@tomkuryakin:

One of the Band of Bugs load screens summed it up best. It said "A cockroach can survive for seven days without its head. A gamer can only survive for three days without their Xbox".

If the Elite is replacing the Premium/Pro model then would that mean you'd be stuck with a dark model if you want a console with a hard drive included. Or are Microsoft planning on releasing a white Elite? Personally I think the darker 360 models don't look as aesthetically pleasing as the white ones.

I'm already incredibly impressed with the 360 pricing, but if they move the Elite into the Premium's price range it would just become ridiculously good value.

I would actually rather have a PS3 than a 360 if money wasn't an object, but sadly it is and because of this, I'll choose the amazingly cheap 360 over the expensive PS3 any day.

@tomkuryakin - "I'm always amazed at how many 360 owners have more than one 360."

It's so you have a standby unit in case one inevitably breaks down. Also it probably explains how Microsoft have managed to sell 30 miliion units to date. ;)

(I'm joking, I'm joking...)

The Americans are apparently leaking the same info, as seen on Kotaku. In that leak they specifically say the Elite will be priced as the previous regular model.

I reckon that MS is in a very good position to undercut any action taken by sony. As for those wishing for a 100 quid price cut, it is extremely unlikely. A 50 quid cut might be feasible but that much? I highly doubt it. It's just not how sony does business atm and they have a massive loss on any machine sold anyway. It's much more likely that they will continue down the path that they have been on and (possibly) release a PS3 slim + add more value (games, controllers, etc.).

Think about it: The psp go has far less hardware costs (UMD and stuff) but will cost you more than the standard version. Why would sony adopt a radically different policy with the ps3? One policy is right, it would mean that sony is knowingly using the wrong policy for the other.

They can't raise the price, they can't drop it either. Their policy has always been that they add value. The most logical conclusion is that, if they release a PS3 slim at all, that they will add value.

This is what the industry is hearing from Microsoft.

A company I know very well (ahem) has absolutely no 60GB XBOX 360 SKU availability. Not even for faulty exchanges. All stores have had none delivered for weeks now. Just Arcade and Elite pricing. I'm sure we've all seen those photos from America regarding the new packaging (i.e. just having a picture of Arcade + Elite on the side)

I hope Elite's will be available in white as well as black... surely they've got loads of white cases knocking about?

As ever, the best thing for all us plebs is that the big corps are in a price war in a very competitive market. Long may it continue.

"PS3 slim - it will retail for €100 less than the current models."

Im sure there will be a price cut of some sort because they are the ones who need to stimulate sales most but Im not so sure if the PS3 slim is gonna be ready for this year. Also didnt they charge more for their PS2 slim when it was first released over the standard one... Id expect they'd keep the slim at the current price and drop the price on the older SKUs to clear old stock.

I expect MS have thought about using the upcoming Valhalla chip revision to make a smaller SKU too, they'd beable to make it smaller than the PS3 Slim and it might be a good move for getting more userbase in Japan.

@TheStylishHobo - I think you made the fatal mistake of declaring your preference for a rival format if money was no object. You know how incredibly sensitive (immature?) some of these Xbox 360 owners are. ;)

@TheStylishHobo

I wouldnt buy a PS3 even if it was a lot cheaper. I simply dont need one. To me money isnt an issue - i buy the console(s) i want no matter the cost. Next gen it might be a another brand. I usually stick to one console each gen as there is more games that i have the time to play anyway. I owned both a gamecube and a Xbox last gen though. RE4 and Ninja Gaiden where both games i couldnt do without. This gen its all about the 360 so i might aswell have three.

@darren

Yeah you are joking but in my case its kind of true. I couldnt wait three weeks to get my first Xbox 360 back so i bought another one. And i couldnt resist the bloodred RE5 Elite and needed a bigger Harddrive too.

@Darren

Probably yes, but really I showed preference to both consoles. Ah, some people...

Oh and to everyone, Darren isn't rambling madly, I deleted the post he is replying to :]

The rumour is that Sony will drop retail price of PS3 by 25% in Europe i.e. €100, bringing it down to €299. A similar 25% price drop in the UK would see the price reduced to £225; although I think £229 is more likely, maybe more.

A 120GB Xbox 360 Elite for £170 is going to leave a clear £60-ish price gap between the competing consoles; the current price differential between 360 Elite and PS3 is £80, so even though Sony drop the price by 25% the gap between them will have only fallen from £80 to £60.

There is no reason to buy a PS3 over a 360 other than the Blueray thing even if the price was identical on both systems. Its actually the other way around. If the 360 did cost more than the PS3 i would still buy a 360.

@Muscleblade

I like the PS3 exclusives better than the 360 exclusives. That's my reason. But back to the aforementioned point, money is a stronger reason.

"Darren isn't rambling madly"

First time for everything I guess. :p

muscleblade must bath in money.

@TheStylishHobo

What exclusives?

You mean you prefer KZ2, MGS5 and Infamous over Halo3, Gears 2 and Crackdown. Ok then. I dont. Ive played all of these games. I enjoyed LBP quite a lot when i tried that. I admit.

@Muscleblades

Yes.

@ The StylishHobo

I am with you on that one. Prefer PS3 exclusive to be honest

"muscleblade must bath in money. "

Thats not true - but i do have a decent income and games and consoles arent very expensive considering how many hours of entertainment they offer. My fitness lifestyle is a lot more costly compared to gaming. I eat alot of beef.

@TheStylishHobo and NotSoSlim

I dont believe you actually played the exclusives on both consoles. Sorry.

@ Muscleblade

Well as i have a 360 i disagree and my gamerscore will show those games you just mention on my playliset. I am sure its not ignornce but it is possible for people to enjoy the games the PS3 offers and are going to offer more than the 360 counterparts.

Moving the Elite to the Pro's price point would be a smart move.

Getting rid of the Arcade and slotting the Pro into its place would be even better. But that's not going to happen.

@Muscleblade

I don't see why you have any reason to believe that I have or haven't. I have proof the I have played the 360 exclusives of which you refer to, check my gamer profile. I can't prove that I have played the PS3 exclusives, but since you are advocating the superiority of 360 exclusives then you only really need to see that I have played the 360 exclusives.

I don't see the point of arguing over which library of games are better, whether or not you've played both is pretty irrelevant, it just depends on what games you like better. I own both consoles, but personally prefer the 360 by a wide margin.. That doesn't mean I think the PS3's is bad though.

But this move by MS is pretty obvious, as it seems very likely Sony are about to release a slim model for around £250. Dumping the 60gb SKU and bringing down the Elite as the standard model makes a lot of sense.

@WinterSnowblind

I completely agree arguing is pointless. When things are this close to call it's a matter of opinion, not fact. I wasn't saying one is better than other in a matter of fact manner, I was simply stating my opinion. To which MuscleBlade then replied criticising my opinion as if it was somehow universally wrong ^^

I'm thinking/fearing that the PS3 won't drop in price by very much in the UK. After all, the £ has drop in value enormously compares to the € since the PS3 was launch so Sony may want to even out the pricing to stop cross border imports.

@TheStylishHobo and NotSoSlim

Okay you proved your point. I was wrong about you both. Ive seen so many PS3 fanboys lying about owning both consoles i didnt bother to check your profiles beforehand. I usually do. The PS3 exclusives are great no doubt. I do love the Gears of war and Halo franchises and dont like MGS so i guess we have different taste thats all.

Peace.

I could see the slim being slightly cheaper, but the early reports stated it would be £270, which is about the same as what the PS3 currently costs bundled with a game.. Still, a smaller (hopefully less ugly) model is welcome, but even just dropping it to £250 would have quite an impact, I think.

I really hope Microsoft come out with a slim line model next year too. Release a more reliable version with a bigger HDD, and I'd probably get one.

strange, i work in argos and we got some 60gb 360s in this morning

I think Sony will have a base release price for the Slim and once the 80gb sells out that will go down to the 299 euros. Still think UK price will be £230 which aint bad but if the Elite goes £170 then Sony are back to square one

Drop the 120gb hd price, you tight bastards.

The arcade is rubbish and is an excuse to have the cheapest console on the market i guess.

Or it could just be that there are millions of potential customers who don't care about online play or downloading games.

I already have 360 and Wii. I hardly have any time to play games: I still haven't finished ancients like Bioshock, and Farcry 2...

But if Sony drop the price of PS3 then I don't know how i'll relent. God of War and Uncharted 2 look GREAT.

PS3 slim in 3, 2, 1 .....

"there are millions of potential customers who don't care about online play or downloading games"

So true, I know at least half a dozen peeps who only want to play the latest FIFA against mates in the same room. Still a huge chunk of folk who aren't even online at home.

You better be able to get it in white OR black... I am not having that ugly black thing in my house!

God, I hope that update to the story isn't correct. A true facepalm moment if it is.