Apple sells three million iPads

By Robert Purchese Published 22 June, 2010

Jobs done.

Apple has announced that over three million iPads have been sold around the world.

The tablet went on sale 80 days ago in the US. That's the same amount of time it took Phileas Fogg to balloon around the world.

The iPad launched in the UK on 28th May.

"People are loving iPad as it becomes a part of their daily lives," said Apple's Steve Jobs.

"We're working hard to get this magical product into the hands of even more people around the world, including those in nine more countries next month."

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  • riceNpea #1 2 years ago

    3 million people with more money then sense

  • cianchristopher #2 2 years ago

    Stop saying "magical", Steve!

  • stevetuck #3 2 years ago

    I think i would rather have a £500 laptop then an oversized ipod touch
    Edited by stevetuck at 22/06/10 @ 17:09

  • jonsaan #4 2 years ago

    What recession?

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #5 2 years ago

    Depends on what you want to use it for; I'm really chuffed with mine..

    I use mine for image editing; its easier to carry that than my 17" Macbook Pro. Also, I travel a lot and so it's handy for surfing on the go and watching catchup TV.

    There are some reallly cool apps out there for it. But it's all down to what you want to use it for.

    If anyone is remotely interested; here's some pics I edited on the iPad shameless link
    Edited by madgerald at 22/06/10 @ 17:19

  • Essien #6 2 years ago

    Would have been 2,999,999 sold but for me.

    Is that how these things work?

  • wizlon #7 2 years ago

    I'm positive one day Jobs will announce that due to the vast fortune he has been amassing he has now acquired enough uranium to start producing a nuclear weapon. The idea of a nuclear weapon careering through the air with the text "Designed by Apple in California - Assembled in China" is a hilarious, but frightening one.

  • StooMonster #8 2 years ago

    I think I would rather have an oversized iPod Touch than a £500 laptop.

    Good that we have the choice.

  • Nuronv #9 2 years ago

    Good for them, I can't say I'm interested in the iPad, it just isn't my kind of product.

    I am however quite happy with my Pandora, which has sold 4000, Sales figures won't change the mind of anyone other than investors.

  • SYS64738 #10 2 years ago

    I probably would eventually buy a slate, but not from Apple. Recent stories about the company banning certain satire content makes me feel uneasy about the future, especially should Apple be in charge.

    And yeah, "magical"? Please.

  • GamesConnoisseur #11 2 years ago

    Predictable we will get iDevice haters here commenting on the worthlessness.

    However hard to argue against sales, so there must be something done right?

    I m quite happy with mine and yes of course I knew it is not as versatile as laptop but by god its so easy and simple to use.

    Latest Naruto manga comic downloaded off the web and browsing on the bog? Check
    Reading up on the Arts of War on the bed? Check
    Watching F1 and also looking at the live stats of F1 app full screen? Check
    Reading up daily newspaper of your choice via PressReader at a discounted cost? Check
    Create and edit photos, sent mock comic style strip to mates re world cup news? Check
    Play much improved version of Dig Expeditions HD and noticed how much more fun the game is? Check

    And so on.

    I do certainly think iPad is an useful device but that just my mere opinion and its certainly not going to be changed anytime soon!

  • crickson #12 2 years ago

    I'm very happy with mine and I don't think it's overpriced at all (although I did buy mine in the US). Can't say I'm converted to gaming on the iPad yet though...

  • darkmorgado #13 2 years ago

    New games consoles sell 3 million in a matter of days, not months (look at the Wii). How is this really such a massive achievement?

    Example: In December 2009, the Wii sold 3m units in the US ALONE. So since its launch, the IPad has yet to have lifetime sales figures that match single-month sales for other (older) technology. So in isolation the figures are impressive, but when compared to other technology they don't come close.

    The Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field is in full effect...
    Edited by darkmorgado at 22/06/10 @ 18:00

  • migasUK #14 2 years ago

    waiting for mine...soon soon will be here.

  • tenma #15 2 years ago

    Jeez @ anyone who says they enjoy their iPad automatically being thumbed down. I don't have an iPad and don't plan on buying one, but I've used my friend's when visiting him and it's definitely a fun device. Can't fault someone for getting enjoyment out of it.

    @darkmorgado: You're comparing gaming consoles which are a ubiquitous platforms to tablets/slates that have yet to become as ubiquitous. Also, keep in mind that even the last batch of consoles didn't cost as much as many versions of the iPad. Compare consoles to consoles and tablets to tablets. Comparing consoles to tablets is like comparing mp3 sales to to vinyl: one is much more mass market than the other.
    Edited by tenma at 22/06/10 @ 17:56

  • Jackface #16 2 years ago

    The magical thing is wearing thin now, even though it is, of course, fabulous to use.

  • UncleLou #17 2 years ago

    The Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field is in full effect...

    Indeed.

    First year sales of 360: 1.17 M
    First year sales of PS3: 1.2 M
    First year sales of Wii: 2.93

    They all launched in November, so it's a bit of a shorter window, but always the pre-Christmas period, on the other hand. Not that I know what the purpose of this comparison is in the first place, but your figure-quoting is a bit too selective for my liking.
    Edited by UncleLou at 22/06/10 @ 18:10

  • AphoticCosmos #18 2 years ago

    Great. OK.

    Now can you make phones half as good as HTC do? And then do it without suing them?

    Thought not.

  • TRUTH #19 2 years ago

    It's for fashion victims - my neighbour bought one; used it to show off how trendy and cool it looks, now, does not really know it's point when he saw it can do half the stuff his laptop does !.

    It is over sized I-touch - everything I've seen, I've done on my I-touch.

  • Jackface #20 2 years ago

    "I probably would eventually buy a slate, but not from Apple. Recent stories about the company banning certain satire content makes me feel uneasy about the future, especially should Apple be in charge. "

    That's totally fair point but Jobs recently admitted they screwed up on that front because they hadn't considered that satire would be submitted and fall under the 'no slander' rule. They've changed their rules to be inclusive of satire now.
    Edited by Jackface at 22/06/10 @ 18:12

  • UncleLou #21 2 years ago

    It's for fashion victims - my neighbour bought one; used it to show off how trendy and cool it looks, now, does not really know it's point when he saw it can do half the stuff his laptop does !.

    Yeah, because your neighbour is an idiot, showing off is its sole use. :D

    /triple-facepalm

  • Deckard1 #22 2 years ago

    If any other company made this it would of failed. It looks like an ipod for people with special needs. Some people just love apple... it goes nice with their chino's, their parma ham bruchettes, and their skinny latte mochinos.

  • killyourtv #23 2 years ago

    What idiots are buying this piece of shit?

  • bionutz #24 2 years ago

    @madgerald.
    cool stuff man. you may have sold the next one on Jobs behalf ;) ... to me!

  • Jackface #25 2 years ago

    "If any other company made this it would of failed."

    This is true.

  • Wyrm #26 2 years ago

    So many people so desperate to attack Apple at any given opportunity, it's really very silly.

  • UncleLou #27 2 years ago

    So many people so desperate to attack Apple at any given opportunity, it's really very silly.

    It's amazing, isn't it. And all that on a forum full of people ho do not hesitate to spend lots of money on, let's face it, absolutely useless, overpriced luxury items/tat all the time, like consoles, accessories, graphics cards, games and whatnot. It's so ridiculously stupid, it almost hurts. :)

  • pyquila #28 2 years ago

    In a perfect world Apple would get together with Nintendo and make an iPad DS. Some mininal buttons at the side of the screen and multitouch. And of course some great Nintendo IP. A big screen like the iPad together with multitouch (really makes a big difference compared to 'just' a touchscreen) could do great things for games.

    As is stands now people are expecting games for the iPad cost the same as for the iPhone. So hardly anyone is making use of the power of the machine. Endless towerdefense games for 0.99 euro.

  • Zaiz #29 2 years ago

    @Wyrm

    It'd help if Apple sold products that were less ludicrously overpriced and didn't market themselves as the Cool Brand for Cool People.

  • UncleLou #30 2 years ago

    and didn't market themselves as the Cool Brand for Cool People.

    That much is true, much Apple-hate seems to come from marketing victim nerds.

  • killyourtv #31 2 years ago

    seems we got a few butthurt apple fanboys

  • UncleLou #32 2 years ago

    Cute, a "butthurt" comment! :)

  • Zaiz #33 2 years ago

    @UncleLou

    Of course! I have to be a loser if I don't like Apple's frankly ridiculous marketing scheme.

  • killyourtv #34 2 years ago

    fanboi

  • UncleLou #35 2 years ago

    Of course! I have to be a loser if I don't like Apple's frankly ridiculous marketing scheme.

    If you say so, who am I to disagree.

  • killyourtv #36 2 years ago

    People who like this should just become An Hero right now.

  • UncleLou #37 2 years ago

    killyourtv is "trolling" like its 1999. Ah, good, innocent times. :)

  • killyourtv #38 2 years ago

    Uncle Lou is an Apple fanboy of immense proportions.

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #39 2 years ago

    @TRUTH - I have never, EVER claimed to be fashionable..

    @Deckard1 - I do not wear chinos, or eat parma ham bruchettes (isn't that some kind of shoe)

    @Zaiz - Apple products do command a higher than a perceived normal price as they are quality products. It's like comparing two different makes of car or TV or something.. You can spend £200 on a widescreen TV or you can spend £700 on a widescreen TV - they both allow you to watch TV.

    Apple hit some pretty rough times in the 90s and now they're actually making a shit-load of cash and releasing products that people are buying, a lot of people think Apple and Apple product owners are Satan and all his little helpers.

  • Deckard1 #40 2 years ago

    apple for me now, are so self consciously "cool" that that they've gone right into the totally un-fucking-cool territory. The chino wearing bruschetta eating crowd will eat it up, estate agents and people who say "ya I work in the city ya, lets do brunch... that looks soooo good on you" ie people who are desperately trying to show how super cool they are, while anyone who's even remotely "cool" thinks their a twat. The only other people who will buy it are technophiles who must own every new thing that's released.

    I can't see anyone else wanting a giant fisher price ipod touch, the thing just doesn't make any sense to me.

  • UncleLou #41 2 years ago

    Just yesterday I was a PC fanboy, and the other day a PS3 fanboy. You tards should really agree on something, I am getting confused. :D

  • Red-Moose #42 2 years ago

    I slagged off the iPAd a lot for being a worthless piece of pointless overpriced tat, but clearly, 3 million sales since launch such a short while ago says the market for this device is much bigger than one simply for Apple fanbois. Can't dispute the sales figures!

  • UncleLou #43 2 years ago

    Tablet PC's have been out for yonks, some have miles better specs and innards than apple's incarnation, but hey, you can't argue with 3.000.000 trend slaves.

    And generalizing that logic, you have a PS3 with tons of games in your profile instead of a gaming PC, capable of so much more, why? "This is living"?

  • SleepyMagpie #44 2 years ago

    The problem with these technology fads that are more flash than actual innovation or substance, is that given their pricing, you rarely get anyone having bought one come out and confess that it was really just a case of the emperor's new clothes - after the fact.

    As a buyer - you'd feel really silly then, wouldn't you, besides, you're already in the club/cult/church - which was a large part of the bargain - n'est pas?

    Edited by SleepyMagpie at 22/06/10 @ 19:10

  • mowgli #45 2 years ago

    Deckard, you really are the purest form of retard around.

  • mowgli #46 2 years ago

    It is also quite spectacular how so many people fail to see the utility in the device solely because it was made by Apple and is well designed.

  • UncleLou #47 2 years ago

    The problem with these technology fads that are more flash than actual innovation or substance, is that given their pricing, you rarely get anyone having bought one come out and confess that it was really just a case of the emperor's new clothes - after the fact.

    Really? Don't have a problem admitting that my Wii was a huge waste of money. Seems to say more about how you would handle something like this, or am I reading too much into your post?

  • Zaiz #48 2 years ago

    @Mowgli

    Because it's utility is no greater than a netbook PC or Apple's own Iphone, and it costs more than both. As an E-Reader it also fails miserably in comparison to the machines using digital ink.

  • SleepyMagpie #49 2 years ago

    If Apple made the best products I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

    But.

    HTC makes better cells than Apple - for example.

    There are way better MP3 players than Apple's players - if sound quality is important to you.

    And there are way better ways to browse, maybe write a few mails/notes, and catch a movie, than on a pad that doesn't multitask well, is cumbersome to take with you, and refuses Flash.

    Add that along with the prohibitive pricing and it's a fail.

    But the Apple logo and status is very nice I guess.

  • mowgli #50 2 years ago

    You're conveniently ignoring the utility that comes with a 10 inch screen slab over a netbook (horrible horrible things) and a 10 inch screen over a 3 inch screen. If you really can't see the benefit in a 10 inch screen over a 3 inch screen for certain functions then you are a spaz. And as an ereader it is much better, no good in sunlight of course, but that is more than made up for the fact that it can be used in dark - unlike e-ink. I've owned both and the iPad is a much much better ereader.

  • SleepyMagpie #51 2 years ago

    I never bought a Wii, UncleLou, I saw it as a hype pretty early on - honestly.

    And I have no problem buying something that's useful - as in "fun". Many gamers define those kind of items as a waste of money, yet spend tons of cash on them. That's kind of neurotic to me.

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #52 2 years ago

    @Zaiz - I actually think it's better than the Sony PRS-505 ereader I owned. A lot better; then again, it costs a lot more and does a lot more.

    Actually, the utility is greater than a netbook PC or iphone - well, it is for me. Being able to finely draw on a surface with your finger over a large area is easier than trying to use a mouse, trackpad or iphone screen. Also, some of the apps i use aren't available for the iphone; and they're a hell of a lot cheaper than any comparible PC applications that would probably not run to well on a netbook because of their bloated code.

  • UncleLou #53 2 years ago

    Because it's utility is no greater than a netbook PC or Apple's own Iphone,

    It doesn't cost more than an iPhone. And for browsing the internet, or watching films on the go, it's in a completely different league altogether.

    There are cheaper netbooks, yes (although there are many in similar price regions). Personally, I can't stand them. Crappy screens, limited use due to, for a PC, humble specs (lacking something that's as tailor-made for them as the appstore is for the idevices), impractical keyboard/screen angle, tacky build quality.

    Hey, I should look for an Asus EEE forum, moaning about stuff I am not interested in seems to be in fashion.
    Edited by UncleLou at 22/06/10 @ 19:23

  • SleepyMagpie #54 2 years ago

    The screen size makes it fall between two areas of utility for me. Too small, and too big at the same time.

    A spaz like me really likes my Asus Seashell. ^^

  • mowgli #55 2 years ago

    HTC make better cells. GLOL.

    Shitty smartphones that haven't changed in over ten years. Fuck all interesting apps. Shit phones; the only entertainment they seem to offer are encouraging users (due to lack of any actual games) to do nothing but profess how the 'openness' of the platform makes it superior. Yeah, because the openness has led to some great developer support. Lol.

  • SleepyMagpie #56 2 years ago

    But, I'll stop now. if people have the dosh and want to part with it for an Ipad, more power to them - if that is fun for you, who am I to criticize.

    Only thing that gets me going with Apple products is the fact that the excellence of these things are constantly trumpeted as their raison d'etre.

  • UncleLou #57 2 years ago

    I never bought a Wii, UncleLou, I saw it as a hype pretty early on - honestly.

    I have no reason to doubt you - wiser than me, obviously...

    Only thing that gets me going with Apple products is the fact that the excellence of these things are constantly trumpeted as their raison d'etre.

    That's just marketing. If we were to take that seriously (or the fanboys doing it), noone of us here would own a Playstation... :)

    FWIW, I don't even own an iPad.Bought one for my parents and used it a couple of weeks. It's a great device, but my entertainment budget is a bit too stretched already to also buy one for me atm. No idea what the negative fuss is about, it just amuses me, and I must admit I enjoy annoying the typical anti-Apple tards, because it's just so stupid. In the end, I agree with your general point of view - it's just a fun device to use for me.

    /shrug
    Edited by UncleLou at 22/06/10 @ 19:32

  • Dizzy #58 2 years ago

    Some of the iPad Hating people have actually said they are gonna buy a 3D tv. How ironic.
    Edited by Dizzy at 22/06/10 @ 19:36

  • mowgli #59 2 years ago

    Ah, edit makes sense.
    Edited by mowgli at 22/06/10 @ 19:39

  • UncleLou #60 2 years ago

    You seem very attached to your trendy gizmo though, but you don't need to defend it so rigorously, Apple won't give you any discount you know.

    Oh you trend slaves you.

    Now I am all butthurt again. :-(

    You have not answered my question though.

  • UncleLou #61 2 years ago

    Fair enough, as long as you don't shift goalposts in the next few months.

  • killyourtv #62 2 years ago

    OMG Cat reacts to iPad

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TFubr_J3nU

  • UncleLou #63 2 years ago

    I'll hunt you down. :)

  • KD #64 2 years ago

    I have no need for one but my mother wants one alot, I bet the 40-60+ age range will/have bought a highish percentage just for the ease of use. Something else is most places my parents go on holiday now have wifi in the hotels so only now they aware of it, the laptop they got aint something they'd want to drag on holiday.

    I'm waiting for the ICoffeeTable after i get my iphone 4 on payg
    Edited by KD at 22/06/10 @ 19:52

  • RodHull #65 2 years ago

    I'm so happy for you Steve! You deserve every success!

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #66 2 years ago

    @KD - i took mine with me when i went up to see my folks recently.. My mum wants one for Christmas. We played scrabble on it, and she loved it!

  • KD #67 2 years ago

    The bad part is tho I got to pay for it heh

  • UncleLou #68 2 years ago

    @KD, @madgerald - Yeah. I am seeing a huge market for Apple with the technophopes/elderly. I know two more people apart from me who bought iPads for their parents, and so far it's been a resounding success with all of them. Hardly need for "tech support", and they actually use the bloody things, as opposed of the old "scary" Laptop(s)/PCs that are somewhere in the attic, and always do something unexpected/strange if they get turned on at all.
    Edited by UncleLou at 22/06/10 @ 20:02

  • UncleLou #69 2 years ago

    Apple fail at two of these things. Accessabilty is flawed as you can't multi task like you can on a PC and their not flash enabled, and specs wise the Storage capacity is laughable.

    Sounds just like a PS3 compared to a PC to me. I am beginning to think you're not quite catching my drift.

  • GreyScale #70 2 years ago

    People who bang on about 'specs' all the time are just the worst kind of tech-nerd arseholes. The people who rush out and buy a stupidly hi-spec expensive PC then only use it for endless 3dmark benchmarking and forum willy-waving. The people who buy a Skoda because of the 'specs'. The people who sit there stubbornly persisting with their shitty symbian smartphones because they have superior 'specs'.

    If 'spec' is the most important factor when buying shit, you are a chump and are past reasoning with.

  • chiz #71 2 years ago

    I slagged it off when it first came out. I managed to have a little shot of one, and they're fantastic to use. So, I went and bought one, great little machines. They remind me so heavily of the Amiga/ST days.

  • Praetorianer #72 2 years ago

    Support Apple =

    - support exploitation
    - support censorship
    - support overpricing
    - support restrictive policies
    - support undesirable market conditions

    Yeah, just go ahead and buy Apple products. Buy another revolution. Sheep.
    Edited by Praetorianer at 22/06/10 @ 20:42

  • Jackface #73 2 years ago

    "The problem with these technology fads that are more flash than actual innovation or substance, is that given their pricing, you rarely get anyone having bought one come out and confess that it was really just a case of the emperor's new clothes - after the fact. "

    Okay, you're obviously not talking about the iPad, or the iPhone, or the iPod, or any of those other fads that were widely "doomed to fail" despite surprisingly fast take-up which turned into a world-changing phenomenon...

    ...so what are you talking about?

  • immateriaux #74 2 years ago

    @Praetorianer
    As opposed to ....?

    Why are you so anti the fact of people choosing to buy something they like? (Though how sheep get their hands on so much disposable income is another question I'd like answered)

    Is choice something you are actually afraid of cause it makes no fucking sense what you've posted unless you've just woken up from the stone age and completely missed the last few hundred years of capitalism or something?

    If we didn't have the iPad, HP would be rolling out, probably only next year the slow, cumbersome, chunky "iSlate" and putting another nail in the whole "tablet" concept. Thanks to the iPad, everyone has to raise their game, we're seeing companies dump Microsoft's inept cut down Windows versions and embracing Android for use in tablets. We may see some really clever devices rolling out next year instead of turgid, handicapped laptops.

    Undesirable market conditions? Absolute rubbish of the highest order.

  • Jackface #75 2 years ago

    "And there are way better ways to browse, maybe write a few mails/notes, and catch a movie, than on a pad that doesn't multitask well, is cumbersome to take with you, and refuses Flash. "

    Flash aside (because i truly don't care whether it's there or not - everything I regularly use it for is done in other ways on the ipad just fine), what better devices are there for all those things that are less "cumbersome" than an iPad - which, incidentally, is the single most portable, carry-able, computing device of comparable functionality that I've ever owned. It's a helluva lot lighter than most powerful laptops, but I don't need a powerful laptop nearly as often as I thought I did.
    Edited by Jackface at 22/06/10 @ 21:01

  • immateriaux #76 2 years ago

    Orrrrrr - name one "powerful laptop" that weighs 600 grams and can play video, for example, for 10 hours non-stop?

    Bit baffled myself why someone would not one. If it wasn't for the price, I'd have snapped it up immediately. Only 600grams weight yet has a proper 10" screen, massive battery life, multi-touch screen, access to a massive library of apps, movies, now books - draw, edit, listen, watch: it's a little gem of a thing right out of the box.

  • Laserbream #77 2 years ago

    If I could get VLC on it and plug in an external hard drive / DVD drive, I'd be outside the apple store before it opened tomorrow morning.

  • Lusterpurge #78 2 years ago

    If there is something that Apple manages to do much, much better than the competition, it is creating devices that are deeply loved by half the population and deeply hated by the other half.

  • Chalee #79 2 years ago

    I have a Macbook pro and it's an excellent product. The general make of the product is very good, the OS is very stable, you get some good software bundled with it, and you can even run Windows on it if you manage to find anything which is incompatible. All in all an excellent machine. Sure it's a bit more expensive than certain other competing products, but the price difference is justified.

    Basically I can't see how all the Apple hate can be justified when they can provide good products like the above. I think it's a mixture of certain people having a negative reaction to their 'cool' image (as in a school where there is always an 'anti-cool' gang') and other people not affording the products and thus developing an antipathy towards them.

  • darkmorgado #80 2 years ago

    these technology fads that are more flash than actual innovation or substanc

    iPad doesn't have Flash ;-)

  • stan_dman #81 2 years ago

    Im no apple fan but i did recently get a macbook pro. Apple make sexy looking products and even tho the hardware build quality is average - we all know that all most people care about is looks thesedays.

  • Praetorianer #82 2 years ago

    @HoHumm

    Thanks.

  • darkmorgado #83 2 years ago

    @HoHumm

    Totally agree. This is something that is also covered by the Reality Distortion Field (the concept that Steve Jobs has the natural ability to convince anyone that the tiniest change is some massive innovation, and a phenomemon that Apple both acknowledge and publicly admit to exploiting). The Reality Distortion Field dictates that no matter how tiny the change, how inconsequential the update, if it comes out of Steve Jobs' mouth then people will react similar to a religious epiphany and cite it as the second coming even when confronted with evidence to the contrary. Apple, by their own admission, pretty much rely on it now in their marketing.

  • darkmorgado #84 2 years ago

    2010: iPad is heavily criticised for not including webcams as standard.

    my prediction:

    2011: iPad 2.0 is released, including webcams. The world heralds it as a revolution and quickly forgets that they have spent the last year complaining that Apple hadn't included them in the first place.

  • GreyScale #85 2 years ago

    Presumably you don't buy Nike, Tesco, Nestle, BP etc products either because you want to be an ethical consumer? Of course you don't, because that would make you a hypocrite wouldn't it.

  • darkmorgado #86 2 years ago

    @GreyScale

    While your comment wasn't directed at me, I refuse to shop at Tesco, I have boycotted Nestle products for over 5 years now, I have never bought Nike products, and I don't drive because of the detrimental effect that the oil companies have on our environment.

    Some of us have the courage of our convictions, so perhaps you should stop making snap judgements about people and assuming the answers to your questions before they have been asked?

  • RESIDENT_nEVILe #87 2 years ago

    These things will contain a heavy flow, right?

  • mowgli #88 2 years ago

    darkmorgado sounds like a fun guy.

  • makeamazing #89 2 years ago

    While your comment wasn't directed at me, I refuse to shop at Tesco, I have boycotted Nestle products for over 5 years now, I have never bought Nike products, and I don't drive because of the detrimental effect that the oil companies have on our environment.

    I'm not sure if your being sarcastic or not, you probably shouldnt be using a computer to type this as its probably been made by low paid workers in China or using dangerous chemicals..... no company is perfect and all this holier than though stuff is pretty boring (its like a save the planet sticker being stuck on a crappy banger of a car that pollutes worse than a new car).

    Now lets get back to Apple... me personally i would like an ipad, but i think its totally overpriced and underpowered. Unfortunately for some people you cannot even say that to them without being told its magical and amazing and that you are wrong... but hey thats life i suppose... One thing is for certain, next year the product will be probably much improved and the first version will look crappy in comparison.

  • Praetorianer #90 2 years ago

    @Greyscale

    Believe it or not, some people (including myself) really try hard to live that way.

  • RedSparrows #91 2 years ago

    'You're conveniently ignoring the utility that comes with a 10 inch screen slab over a netbook '

    My netbook has a 10in screen...? They're not that bad y'know.

  • George-Roper #92 2 years ago

    Three million greasy-finger brigade members. Members in every sense of the word, too.

  • RedSparrows #93 2 years ago

    Also, what's more boring than someone with ethical convictions re: consumer choice, no matter how weak they are vs. the web of companies we buy from?

    People carping on about it as boring, as if that makes them somehow innately 'better'.

  • JohnnyWashnGo #94 2 years ago

    Who the hell is buying these things?

    Actually, I know a few people who have them - all Apple nerds who get 'excited' at the latest hardware announcement from Dear Leader. I used to laugh at them but it turns out I do the same thing when Linux announces something new in the Linux Kernel ;)

    From my point of view, if you want one, go knock yourself out. You will either enjoy the hell of it or you will soon be annoyed by its limitations.

    As for openness - its one of the main selling points of anything to me. If I can't tinker with it, then I don't want it. A lot of what we take for granted is built on foundations of openness. Software used to be freely passed around programmers so that they could learn from their peers before Gates got the idea of wrapping it in plastic and charging for it. I buy books from Cory Doctorow because when he publishes the dead tree version, he also publishes one under a creative commons license which allows anyone to read for free as well as copy/edit/update as they like. Its freedoms like this that I value and that seem to be disappearing with every passing day.

    But each to their own. I say well done to Apple... they successfully sold a turkey to 3 million people, a large percentage of which will re-buy the device next year when version 2 comes out. If I had that many people willing to throw money at me, I wold probably be doing the same thing ;)

  • WJF #95 2 years ago

    @darkmorgado

    Damn, that's one hell of a high horse you've got there!
    ----

    Anyway, it's a nice device - quicker than a netbook (even those that are specced faster) at doing tasks and a lot easier to just 'use', as it were.

    Too expensive for me though. Luxury item - luxury item price. It's not a 'vital' piece of tech, but it's good for those who can afford it.

  • darkmorgado #96 2 years ago

    Also, what's more boring than someone with ethical convictions

    Sorry, is having convictions a bad thing now?

  • WJF #97 2 years ago

    'A lot of what we take for granted is built on foundations of openness.'

    Hold. Stop right there.

    What exactly are you trying to get across with that post, because I'm struggling to think of a sensible answer (I mean this seriously, please don't take this a slight).

    Are you saying that in the past coders didn't used to charge for their work until Gates commercialised it for the masses to use? Or are you saying that coders shouldn't be paid for their work, as everything should be free?

    It's surely the author of a product's decision whether or not they want to not get paid for something they've produced. That's the freedom of choice. It's not up to you to pass judgment on how the creator of the work decides to distribute it, because it shouldn't be you (again, not personal) that decides this.

    What you're suggesting sounds infeasible as a standard practice due to the financial pressures placed on people in real life. It's a dream, essentially. A nice dream, but still a dream.

    Edit 2: Ack, the cynical comment at the end has kind of lost its charm now that Dark's told me it wasn't him, so I've removed it. :-)
    Edited by WJF at 23/06/10 @ 00:37

  • hy4000uk #98 2 years ago

    proof if proof were needed that apple fans are morons

    a bunch of mocha sipping, flip flop wearing retards with more money than sense

    OMG a bigger ipod touch. take my money! TAKE IT!

  • darkmorgado #99 2 years ago

    Damn, that's one hell of a high horse you've got there!

    Not at all. I don't judge people who don't share my beliefs, but it irks me when people criticise me for HAVING beliefs, or who suggest that I am somehow "weird" for not just disregarding issues such as child labour. Has consumerism really become so widespread now that child labour (for example) is acceptable as long as you end up with another t-shirt with a logo emblazoned on it?

  • WJF #100 2 years ago

    @dark

    True, it is stupid to judge a person negatively when they express sound principles. This is the Internet though...

    My main gripe is not with the content of that post, but the manner in which you wrote it. That and the -1 I received to my previous post when you reappeared :-D

  • darkmorgado #101 2 years ago

    That and the -1 I received to my previous post when you reappeared :-D

    Not me dude. Just because I don't comment, doesn't mean I'm not reading ;-)

    My main gripe is not with the content of that post, but the manner in which you wrote it

    Didn't mean to come across as preachy. I have Asperger's, so I tend to be pretty direct without considering or realising how other people might interpret what I write. Sorry if you felt I was being condescending.
    Edited by darkmorgado at 22/06/10 @ 23:59

  • mowgli #102 2 years ago

    Hey JWG, how is that openness helping the Android's app/game selection?


    Oh.

  • RedSparrows #103 2 years ago

    'Also, what's more boring than someone with ethical convictions

    Sorry, is having convictions a bad thing now? '

    Read my post. I was on your side.

  • darkmorgado #104 2 years ago

    Sorry, misread your post.

  • Destria #105 2 years ago

    Android App selection is just fine thanks. Game selection, however, does rather suck rather.

  • citizenHUNTER #106 2 years ago

    To make this a bit relevant to Eurogamer, surely the point of posting this article/slice of news on this site is to highlight how, that even if all those iPad users bought a couple of modestly priced gaming apps, it would be making more money from gaming, for Apple and the app developers, than an entire year of computer games development in say the first year of a new console's life* (as someone helpfully pointed out the roughly 1-2 millions sales of PS3, Xboxes in the first YEAR of their lives).

    Basically in 80 days Apple have consistently been selling millions of these devices and with gaming apps at as little as 59p, and even at very most maybe £10-£15 it does pose a serious threat now to someone like Nintendo. No, it is not a dedicated gaming device but what games do work or the device work incredibly well, offering in many ways more immersion and more fun than I've had with any console for years now....

    Also, for people just slating Apple at every opportunity, grow up, maybe actually try and get your hands on an iPhone or iPad for any considerable length of time and give your scepticism a rest for the day. People do not pay mega bucks for these devices just because of the brand, they buy because again and again Apple more or less deliver upon the promises they make, and often surpass them, and other competitors are still catching up on getting the user experience anywhere near as good as what Apple concocts. That's how I see it, what I believe, I'm not brainwashed, I'm just regularly impressed and kept happy by the performance of my iPhone and Macbook, and trust me I am never looking back at a PC again.


    * MEGA guestimating by me, but you et the point.
    Edited by citizenHUNTER at 23/06/10 @ 01:54

  • Sonic_D #107 2 years ago

    iSheep

  • CaptainBinky #108 2 years ago

    Surprised nobody's seized upon this quote to make "satirical" porn apps ;)

  • UncleLou #109 2 years ago

    Not at all. I don't judge people who don't share my beliefs, but it irks me when people criticise me for HAVING beliefs, or who suggest that I am somehow "weird" for not just disregarding issues such as child labour.

    You judge people based on what gadget they buy though? Particularly strange kind of hypocrite.

  • darkplacid #110 2 years ago

    In all seriousness... If you need it get it if you don't need it then your just another idiot person who wants to show off. By the way the people who need it are:

    Graphic designers.
    People who are lazy to buy a book to read.

    I would like to add photographers but wait oh no... Ipad doesnt have a USB port? Well screw photo viewing on the go then.

    If you get Ipad for gaming then... Your the biggest moron on earth thats all. Hate me if you want but buying something which is easily twice the price of any console to play games which is not even half as good is just look idiotic to me.

    This is a good moment to quote this:

    "From SNL Seth Meyers"

    “This week Apple released a thing that does stuff that its other stuff already does.”

    “Apple said Monday that it sold more than 300,000 iPads on the first day of its launch, ushering in a new era of people buying things in order to find out what they are.”

    Edited by darkplacid at 23/06/10 @ 02:54

  • mukki #111 2 years ago

    like the tag line
    that's all...

    I am sure the ipad is a great gadget but... right now I have no use for it...
    and I really think the stance Apple is taking towards Adobe Flash is quite lame but hey...

  • mukki #112 2 years ago

    like the tag line
    that's all...

    I am sure the ipad is a great gadget but... right now I have no use for it...
    and I really think the stance Apple is taking towards Adobe Flash is quite lame but hey...

  • Praetorianer #113 2 years ago

    @citizenHUNTER

    Obviously you didn't understand the sales figures of the consoles, as you obviously didn't read the posts thoroughly or didn't do a bit of research on your own.

    As far as gaming on the iPad or iPod or Iphone is regarded...those few games, that offer the same experience as titles for either DS or PSP, or Laptop computers, not to mention the home consoles or desktop computers, don't make it a gaming device in the sense that it would threaten either Nintendo's, Sony's or Microsoft's video game policies. People who buy an Apple product instead of any of the aforementioned in order to play with it are no gamers, period.

    Sheep.


    *scnr*

  • Sunyavadin #114 2 years ago

    "Apple products do command a higher than a perceived normal price as they are quality products."

    I call bullshit.
    My mp3 player has four times the functionality of the equivalent ipod.
    For 10% of the cost.
    Has lasted me 5 years without a problem.

    Cheap Chinese workmanship, good quality, reasonable prices (They make maybe a 60% markup on parts and labour, instead of Apple's 1600% or so markup) a GUI I myself find more intuitive(I admit this one is subjective, not objective like my other points), no Itunes (Or similar winamp plugin) dependency...

    I'd call that a superior quality product. One with more innovation, good reliability, and a more realistic cost.

  • Sunyavadin #115 2 years ago

    "Hey JWG, how is that openness helping the Android's app/game selection? "

    You know what's funny?

    Watching the stalemate between my two friends, one of whom has an android phone and the other who has an iphone.

    Every time they meet they compare apps on their phones and every time each of them has the exact same ones. (though the Android's tricorder wins out on having more functions, while the iphone has a couple more lightsaber colours)

  • UncleLou #116 2 years ago

    People who buy an Apple product instead of any of the aforementioned in order to play with it are no gamers, period.

    "No gamers" for me are people who dismiss entire platforms without knowing what they're talking about.

    , don't make it a gaming device in the sense that it would threaten either Nintendo's, Sony's or Microsoft's video game policies.

    Nintendo begs to differ. Unless you're naive enough to think DSiware, for example, has nothing to do with the appstore.

  • UncleLou #117 2 years ago

    I call bullshit.
    My mp3 player has four times the functionality of the equivalent ipod.
    For 10% of the cost.

    Please show me where I can buy a 160GB mp3 player for 22,- €. Thanks in advance.

  • mAc062 #118 2 years ago

    IPads, too big to be a PDA too crap to replace a laptop, whats the point.

  • Gastrian #119 2 years ago

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  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #120 2 years ago

    @darkplacid - with the camera adapter you get both a USB connector and SD card reader; making it ideal for photographers on the go.

  • Fab4 #121 2 years ago

    A lot of you could do with gaining some empathy. The old "I don't have a need for it so it must be fucking crap" line is like something a teenager would come up with.

    I bought one, not for myself as I do not need one, but for my old mum. She isnt an expert in computers,, she doesnt have a fucking clue what USB or Flash are and she isnt a big gamer. What she does like is keeping in touch with friends & family and getting useful information from the web. A laptop would have been overkill for her, and as she already has a phone which she can navigate her way around, the iPad was easier for her to get to grips with.

    Now I'm not saying there arent fanboys out there who buy everything Apple, just as there arent PC/Xbox/PS3 fanboys out there, but to come on here and boldly state that its only fucking 'iSheep' buying them then you have no fucking clue about the real world.

  • suicidal_penguins #122 2 years ago

    I can't believe someone actually wrote "iSheep" earlier. Is there something specific about Apple that short circuits people's capacity to grasp irony? Baa, look at them Apple lovers, baa, think they're having a good time with their nice product, baa, ...
    Edited by suicidal_penguins at 23/06/10 @ 08:42

  • UncleLou #123 2 years ago

    Baa, look at them Apple lovers, baa, think they're having a good time with their nice product, baa, ...

    :D

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #124 2 years ago

    @mAc062 - based on that logic:

    A bike is too big to be a unicycle, too crap to replace a family car so what's the point
    A large meat feast pizza is too big to eat alone for breakfast, too crap to feed your kids 5 times a week so what's the point

    My point is that none of those make any sense :)

    My life wouldn't change if I didn't have my iPad. I don't NEED one, but I have one and it has fitted itself nicely into my lifestyle. The battery lasts all day, I can turn it on and off 'like that' (clicks fingers). It has all the apps I need.

    Will I be buying the iPhone 4? Probably not, I'm happy with my Google N1.

  • Weezer #125 2 years ago

    Bit late to this discussion, but what the hell. Got one; love it. iPod Touch is going on eBay because the screen is too small and the battery life is crap. I didn't really want an iPad, but then had the opportunity to use one and I thought it was great.

    At no point did I ever think it would make me cool - I'd need a fucking full-body transplant to do that - so quite why people think they're all being bought by 'cool' city folks is beyond me. I queued up for mine (stupidly as it happens), and the line was full of nerds - not one cool bloke in the whole lot. In fact, the more I think about it, I've not really seen it being used by any fashionistas at all. One bloke showed me his CG showreel; I used it to show my folks our holiday snaps - the thing is useful - y'know? That's why we bought one.

    Seems to me people are clutching at reasons to NOT like it, to either justify their lack of cash or for some other holier-than-thou reason. But the people pissing and moaning about the iPad are starting to sound way more annoying than this fictionalised version of people who buy Apple products - EVERYONE is buying Apple products. Get over it.

    iPad: go and try it - you might actually like it. I bloody do.

  • UncleLou #126 2 years ago

    so quite why people think they're all being bought by 'cool' city folks is beyond me

    Advertising. Seems the anti-Apple crowd is particularly susceptible.

  • Clipper #127 2 years ago

    "People who buy an Apple product instead of any of the aforementioned in order to play with it are no gamers, period. "

    Oh so very very wrong... I have owned PSP and NDS and when I got the ipod touch I found it far more compelling as a handheld. Thousands of games , cheap and fun to play. Sometimes short score attack games, other times longer experiences but still portable sized.

    I got rid of the PSP and NDS as I never played them any more... "traditional" portable games have moved to rpgs and other loooong games not suited to the "out and about" purpose of portable gaming. And even when they are short and fun I have to carry carts or discs, whereas my ipod touch has 33 games at my finger tips (currently)

    To say I am not a gamer is to completely miss the point... Although I am an old-timer so maybe the short and/or score attack nature appeals to my hardcore gaming roots.

    For now I'll leave those "traditional" bloated games to the "hardcore"... Enjoy ;)

  • nahmed #128 2 years ago

    Shoot me down...

    I bought one. I am not an Apple nerd. Perfectly happy with my PCs and laptops from last 20 years or so. I was never interested in any offering by Apple and didn't even look at Mac. I am from the era where XT, or 286 processors were considered top of the line, anyone remember that time? So, why did I buy an iPad and spent 529 pounds on a 16GB 3G model?

    I was in the market for a netbook because I needed some slim device which I can use anywhere for browsing and email. Anywhere means, literally anywhere, on the couch, in a park, in the bed, etc. In the end I chose iPad, and I am really happy that I did because it offers me to do what I wanted and more. What I really like is the 10 hours battery on a single charge. I charge it once every third day or so. It turns on in less than a second. No need to keep the machine plugged in, or wait for the machine to boot as the standby battery is excellent. Mobile devices don't need Windows, it's an overkill. Windows has its benefits but for a small scale device, I cannot see why it need Windows. The OS running on iPad looks pretty stable, and I don't need to worry about any OS related issues for a device like this.

    It is fairly lightweight, and I am using it on my travels also as a storage device after taking photos. I can transfer the raw images from my DSLR and transfer them back without any loss to the original files. Thanks to the excellent battery life, it is pretty handy watching a number of shows and movies during a long trip. Thanks to its form factor and weight, I find it really useful if I happen to wake up for no reason at 5 AM and I can use it for browsing the web or read a book while just lying in the bed. I am also a fan of old school adventure and strategy games, and really enjoyed Broken Sword, Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition, Civilization, Sim City. Some other casual games like Plant vs Zombies are really good, and I am eagerly awaiting Monkey Island 2 Special Edition.

    I am also using it as an e-book reader. Contrary to the claims, I have never experienced eye strain while reading books on iPad. May be the reason is that I already spend 8 hours in front of the monitor at work reading the LCD. I like the experience of reading the e-book. It is not extraordinary, real books are always better, but it has its benefits. I am reading The Decameron and if you like to read the notes it is very convenient to just click the reference number that takes to the end of the book and after reading it in one click you are back to the story, which is very hand because otherwise I normally need to keep two bookmarks to switch back and forth between the notes and the novel.

    In the end, iPad might be a giant iPod touch, but for me it doesn't matter. May be this is what I really needed, a giant iPod touch. iPod touch would have been too small, but iPad strikes a fine balance. It has its shortcomings, which I agree would be a deal breaker for some, but personally for me it is a useful device.

  • darkplacid #129 2 years ago

    @madgerald

    Ya i know that but at what price? Why do we have to pay extra for something which is common in almost everything nowadays? Even radio has a USB port now. And i do not have to pay extra for that. For the price that im paying for the IPad such things should have been included.

    Your paying for the biten apple logo not the product. Wake up people. The logo has a bite because you all has taken a bite out of it and are falling into a fad.

    My definition of a fad, if a thing is made fun of in movies and shows. It is a fad. Example: Guitar Hero, Wii Motion controller (Nobody really plays it anymore do they?), Facebook. iPad has been made fun on every media so yeah it is a fad. Please wake up people.

  • UncleLou #130 2 years ago

    Please tell me this post is a satire? :D

  • Gastrian #131 2 years ago

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  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #132 2 years ago

    @darkplacid - The price is £25 for two different adapters; I'm happy to pay that. If the USB port was in the iPad then the form-factor would have been deeper to fit it. An SD card slot would have made sense - I've never said the iPad is perfect.

    I think you'll find the definition of a fad is a fashion that is taken up with great enthusiasm for a brief period of time; a craze. And the examples you give are utter crap.. Everyone who owns a Wii uses a wiimote controller (over 60m), millions of Guitar Hero games, over 400 million Facebook users. It's still early days to say whether or not the iPad is a fad. Leg warmers were a fad! Shellsuits were a fad.

    I hate to shatter your illusions, but I did not spend £500 for a shiny logo on the back of a well-constructed, useful, responsive, intuitive, FUN, portable babe-magnet*

    *The iPad will NOT help you pick up girls. You're more likely to pick up blokes :(

  • Weezer #133 2 years ago

    "Your paying for the biten apple logo not the product. Wake up people. The logo has a bite because you all has taken a bite out of it and are falling into a fad."

    What utter rot. Sounds like you're jealous or just can't afford one. Do you have the same ridiculous preconceptions about Ferrari, or TAG, or any other 'expensive' brand? I wonder, did you pay through the nose for a new PS3 from Sony, that other purveyor of finely overpriced brand-name products.

  • Gastrian #134 2 years ago

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  • BOFH_UK #135 2 years ago

    I'm going to tread carefully here but... since when did specification and functionality become the sole benchmark worth measuring a product by? This attitude has become more and more common in the last year or two and I just don't get it. Makes no difference to me if a product can do 1,000 different things or 10, just so long as those 10 are the things I need it to do and, most importantly, that it does those 10 things very, very well indeed. THIS is what Apple's so damn good at recently, delivering functionality in a simple, easy way.

    On the iPad I got one at UK launch and it's replaced my laptop with no problems at all. It's far more convenient to use (believe it or not), that 10" screen feels a hell of a lot bigger, the utility of being able to flip between portrait and landscape depending on what I'm doing is vastly underrated and, frankly, it's just far, far more enjoyable to use every day. The only thing I've run into that's moved me back to the laptop is when I'm writing long documents but that's about it. It's not about productivity, it's about having fun and relaxing when I'm using IT at home rather than work and for that the iPad is superb.

    And on the topic of fun (yay, relevant content to Eurogamer) it's a fantastic gaming platform. No, it doesn't have the big epic games of a 360 or PS3 but for pick up and go gaming there's already some great stuff out and it's only going to get better. My iPod Touch has long since replaced my PSP and DS as my prefered portable platform, currently at least the iPad is grabbing the majority of my at-home game time as well. Very interesting to see where Apple and their competitors take the slate market in the next few years.

  • UncleLou #136 2 years ago

    The Wii is a different story, it's a home console.

    Don't see any difference whatsoever between what the DS has to offer and the appstore when it comes to "depth" of games though. In fact, the more interesting stuff when it comes to portable gaming has happened on the Appstore lately, not on the DS.

  • Jackface #137 2 years ago

    "[so Jackface] has a powerful laptop but buys an iPad anyway.

    /baffled

    //or more money than sense"

    Eh?

    So, because I've got a MBP I'm stupid for buying an iPad? Okay. So how many TVs are in your house? How many games consoles? Only one I hope, of any brand.

  • Jackface #138 2 years ago

    "Im no apple fan but i did recently get a macbook pro. Apple make sexy looking products and even tho the hardware build quality is average - we all know that all most people care about is looks thesedays."

    See you're clearly bullshitting. Hardware build quality is 'average'?!

    Insane.

  • UncleLou #139 2 years ago

    UncleLou - really? I am genuinly surprised at that. Do you have a DS just to check?

    Yeah, I indeed have. You can check my (not entirely up to date) games list in my profile.

    GTA:CW has been ported to the iPhone, seeing how you mentioned that. But it's been games like Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor, Underworlds, Space Miner: Space Ore Bust, Real Racing, Battle for Wesnoth, GeoDefense 1+2, Inotia 2, Carcassonne etc. that kept me busy (and my DS in the drawer).

    I am not too interested in stuff like DoodleJump myself, but for some reason many people seem to think that's the only type of game you get in the appstore.

  • Sunyavadin #140 2 years ago

    One thing I am curious about - why do EG do articles on the sales of ipads?

    I don't see them doing sales figures for Alienware. What makes this so special?

  • Sunyavadin #141 2 years ago

    "@mAc062 - based on that logic:

    A bike is too big to be a unicycle, too crap to replace a family car so what's the point "

    Yes, but an ipad is more like a penny farthing.

    More ostentatious and expensive than a bicycle, does most of the same things but within defined limits, and isn't really as effective as a motorcycle that costs only a little bit more.

  • GreyScale #142 2 years ago

    Anything as deep (or with the gaming quality) as classical RPGs (Chrono Trigger, Zeldas), GTA:CW, Mario Kart, Prof Layton and so on?

    Yes, plenty. Loads of RPGs including Final Fantasies, Chaos rings etc etc. GTA:CW is also available on iPhone (a properversion). Loads of Mario Kart, Professor Layton etc clones. There is Doom, Monkey Island, Driver, Street fighter 4, PES, C&C Red Alert, Phoenix Wright, Need for Speed, Football Manager, off the top of my head. All for a fraction of the price of the DS/PSP versions.

    You should really do some research before you blindly slag something off.

  • hiddenranbir #143 2 years ago

    The best part of this article was Jules Verne reference.

    Reading up on the Arts of War on the bed? Check

    Heads up people, someone is about to go to WAAAR!
    Edited by hiddenranbir at 23/06/10 @ 18:49

  • TRUTH #144 2 years ago

    Ipad is FCUK of fashion - here today, gone tomorrow!

    I know two people who pretend they still use ther Ipad, after realizing it's just a overpriced Itouch with a bigger screen...They won't admit it though, as to them it's cool to have one.

  • Les #145 2 years ago

    Can't wait to get my hands on one.

    It's the future of computing no matter how much the geeks hate it. But there'll always be parties that think bullet points on the box are more important than usability to cater for their needs... ;)

  • Les #146 2 years ago

    "and isn't really as effective as a motorcycle that costs only a little bit more"

    I'd say it's incredibly effective thanks to its well thought out limitations.