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  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 12:53:40 6,521 posts
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    What are your thoughts on the closing of Television Centre?
    I for one am sad to see an icon I grew up with disappear.
  • TheSaint 25 Mar 2013 12:55:30 14,201 posts
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    I don't think moving buildings warrants the coverage the BBC have been giving it.
  • M83J01P97 25 Mar 2013 12:57:44 6,553 posts
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    The amount of 'our' money spent on keeping the place open and running efficiently instead of making TV makes me wonder why they didn't abandon the place years ago to be honest.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 13:07:04 6,521 posts
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    @TheSaint if anything I think it deserves more. Most of the history of good UK TV is based in that building. It was iconic as the home of the BBC, and deserves better than to be sold off for yet more expensive London flats.
  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:17:38 6,673 posts
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    I'm more concerned about the clusterfuck that the BBC have turned the whole moving story into. The whole corporation is toxic anyway, Salford isn't far enough away for my liking.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 14:21:34 6,521 posts
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    @elstoof don't believe that bollocks about it being a toxic place. The BBC is still the single best broadcaster in the world. The issue is that this building was a centre point for British television, and it's not really being replaced with anything.
  • DFawkes 25 Mar 2013 14:23:47 22,619 posts
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    I remember thinking it felt like a big hissy fit since the government wouldn't let them raise the licence fee. Ooh, you won't let us fleece people for more money! We're selling off our iconic building now!

    Completely wrong of course, but this is the Internet so I'm sticking with hissy fit :p

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  • X201 25 Mar 2013 14:25:46 15,161 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    I'm more concerned about the clusterfuck that the BBC have turned the whole moving story into. The whole corporation is toxic anyway, Salford isn't far enough away for my liking.
    elstoof, we've told you before, stop picking up those discarded copies of the Daily Mail that you find on the train.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 14:26:17 6,521 posts
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    @DFawkes Given that for me selling it damages the BBC by removing their grounding point, it does seem a bit of cutting of their own nose...

    If the government can find 4bn to give Vodafone, surely they could find 5% of that to ensure the continued use of a unique icon of British culture.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 14:27:24 6,521 posts
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    X201 wrote:
    elstoof wrote:
    I'm more concerned about the clusterfuck that the BBC have turned the whole moving story into. The whole corporation is toxic anyway, Salford isn't far enough away for my liking.
    elstoof, we've told you before, stop picking up those discarded copies of the Daily Mail that you find on the train.
    Yup. Big media companies hate the BBC. And that is exactly why we need it.
  • M83J01P97 25 Mar 2013 14:35:27 6,553 posts
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    RobTheBuilder wrote:
    @elstoof don't believe that bollocks about it being a toxic place. The BBC is still the single best broadcaster in the world. The issue is that this building was a centre point for British television, and it's not really being replaced with anything.
    That might have been true a few years ago... but not anymore. The BBC's output over the past few years has become increasingly stale and risk free. If they aren't copying a format that's proved successful elsewhere they are just churning out the same thing over and over again.

    In fairness they do have some good ideas from time to time but those are very few and fair between now a days, and even then it's hardly anything dramatically new.

    Edited by M83J01P97 at 14:36:03 25-03-2013
  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:35:33 6,673 posts
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    The BBC itself is one of these big media companies. The only difference is its funded by an unavoidable tax that those who pay it have no say in how it's spent, and constantly demands more in order to maintain its extravagant waste spending. The BBC needs fixing but unfortunately those in charge have no need to roll their sleeves up and deal with it, they still get paid regardless of results.
  • THFourteen 25 Mar 2013 14:39:45 32,904 posts
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    As long as i get my eastenders fix, i'm good.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 14:40:48 6,521 posts
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    @M83J01P97 Compared to other UK broadcasters though? Still a mile ahead.
    Let's not forget that reduced money for programmes is one of the reasons why they haven't been as risk taking in the past couple of years.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 14:43:20 6,521 posts
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    @elstoof Some money does get wasted, and they could certainly improve their processes to save money. But either way the BBC is still worth every single penny we spend on it.

    Much of what it has provided, and continues to provide, would have never happened on a commercial broadcaster.
  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:47:11 6,673 posts
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    I would happily pay double the licence fee if there was some sort of checklist with which I could decide where each portion of my donation went.
  • Alastair 25 Mar 2013 14:48:22 15,496 posts
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    M83J01P97 wrote:

    That might have been true a few years ago... but not anymore. The BBC's output over the past few years has become increasingly stale and risk free. If they aren't copying a format that's proved successful elsewhere they are just churning out the same thing over and over again.
    Can you give some examples?
    I'm pretty sure that BBC3 and BBC4 put out a lot of new stuff - some risky and some that you wouldn't get anywhere else..
    e.g. BBC3 does a lot of new comedy. Some is shit, some is not. Surely that is risky. BBC4 has all sorts of factual arty documentary type stuff. A lot of it doesn't appeal to me, but I'm glad it's there

    Turning it on it's head - I can't think of much that is done better on ITV.

    Not as nice as I used to be

  • LeoliansBro 25 Mar 2013 14:49:04 43,321 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    I would happily pay double the licence fee if there was some sort of checklist with which I could decide where each portion of my donation went.
    I suspect this wouldn't change their output one iota.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:49:27 6,673 posts
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    Citizen Khan anyone?
  • Alastair 25 Mar 2013 14:50:15 15,496 posts
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    elstoof wrote:
    I would happily pay double the licence fee if there was some sort of checklist with which I could decide where each portion of my donation went.
    I would willingly sell my house, and all it's contents to help the BBC!

    Not as nice as I used to be

  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:51:19 6,673 posts
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    Why Alastair?
  • Alastair 25 Mar 2013 14:53:14 15,496 posts
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    It's a quote from a Not the Nine O'Clock News sketch. :)

    Not as nice as I used to be

  • localnotail 25 Mar 2013 14:54:34 23,093 posts
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    It was an amazing building - innovative, purpose-built production facilities that brought a huge amount of our television history to life.

    I'm still amazed that this sale has gone by with so little protest :(

    A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:54:55 6,673 posts
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    Ah. Crikey, I've not heard tell of that show in years.
  • elstoof 25 Mar 2013 14:57:30 6,673 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    elstoof wrote:
    I would happily pay double the licence fee if there was some sort of checklist with which I could decide where each portion of my donation went.
    I suspect this wouldn't change their output one iota.
    Probably not, in fact it would probably make it worse given the state of the general populace, though it would at least make for a more democratic approach.
  • RedSparrows 25 Mar 2013 14:58:51 22,104 posts
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    BBC4 alone is worth the price.

    MORE TRAIN DOCUMENTARIES PLEASE.

    I'm being serious.

    Anything to take away from Sky, that fucking empire of shit.

    Hi Robert Lyndsay and Ruth Jones, I hope you're enjoying your cups of SEMEN.


    (sorry)
  • imamazed 25 Mar 2013 15:00:06 5,524 posts
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    @RedSparrows The Tube was fantastic. Although that was BBC2 I think.
  • X201 25 Mar 2013 15:03:41 15,161 posts
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    @localnotail

    First I knew of Pebble Mill closing was the pictures of the bulldozers :(
  • X201 25 Mar 2013 15:04:09 15,161 posts
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    imamazed wrote:
    @RedSparrows The Tube was fantastic. Although that was BBC2 I think.
    Channel 4 during its anarchic youth.
  • RobTheBuilder 25 Mar 2013 15:07:46 6,521 posts
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    @imamazed Tyne Tees for Channel 4.
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