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  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 09:01:10 11,973 posts
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    I'd go for sticky, you can't go wrong. Lava bow will out damage it to begin with but just use the lava one till you've upgraded the sticky one.

    Imagine having that conversation out loud at work.

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  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 09:04:03 5,447 posts
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    Heh.

    So does it matter which I use for long/short bow?
  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 09:37:24 2,380 posts
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    If you have the stats for the long bow ( 10 strength, 12 dex) then use that one. The best dex bow is the composite long bow. It requires 15 strength though. Can be found in 4-1.

    All upgraded the sticky upgrade path (spider shards)

    Edited by Dangerous_Dan at 09:38:26 02-10-2013
  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 09:42:17 5,447 posts
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    I'm working on getting my strength to 15 so I can use the compound bow. Currently 13. So I should make the compound longbow sticky then. And use the compound short bow for a lava bow?
  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 09:50:06 2,380 posts
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    If you aim for 40 dex then just get the sticky compound long bow +5. It's the most powerful bow in the game (use heavy or normal arrows).

    Lava bow is not that impressive, I've found. It's good for cheesy PvP because one can stun players for a short time - which is fun in 1-2 on the dragon fire bridges.
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 09:51:34 11,973 posts
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    I'd make the composite long bow sticky, and then any old short bow to the lava bow. Because when you make the lava bow, whatever bow you 'donated' to make it gets turned into the lava bow anyway, so it's a good idea to keep the more damaging bows for normal upgrades, as opposed to the lava one

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  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 09:52:09 11,973 posts
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    Hang on, is there a composite and a compound? I'm getting confused here :)

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  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 09:57:51 2,380 posts
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    Oops. the compound long bow it is. hehe

    *
    Now I had to look up the difference between compound and composite bows. From the wiki -

    "In literature of the early 20th century, before the invention of compound bows, composite bows have been described as "compound".[1] This usage is now outdated."

    So the compound bow is actually a modern bow. And composite/compound bow was the same thing up till then.

    So there, I was not that far off : P

    Edited by Dangerous_Dan at 10:03:54 02-10-2013

    Edited by Dangerous_Dan at 10:04:40 02-10-2013
  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 10:00:55 5,447 posts
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    Something was lost in translation ;-)
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 10:05:30 11,973 posts
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    Yeah, everything :)

    Obviously a french dialect thing. Feel sorry for them really.

    Anyway, use a compound long bow for sticky, and any old shite for the lava, coz you'll lose it anyway

    There's a white bow too knocking about in the game, but it's still not as powerful as the sticky +5

    lava is fine until you get sticky 5

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  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 10:08:22 5,447 posts
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    Well I already have a longbow +3 I could continue to upgrade and get lava bow. I have no hardstone shards though :-(
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 10:14:25 11,973 posts
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    That'll do.

    You can buy the small shards and the large shards. Or kill the hoplites in 1-1 and 1-2. The armoured spear things. Chunks are from crystal lizards and there's also 2 chunks lying around in 2-2.

    Pure is in 2-2 as treasure as well as well as crystal luzards

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  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 10:16:07 11,973 posts
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    You only need one chunk to get it to 7. The rest is made up of shards and large shards

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  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 10:58:10 2,380 posts
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    Obviously a french dialect thing. Feel sorry for them really.
    Just jealousy - but you can set up a small french enclave at home. Have some red wine on your decked garden and invite some femme fatale. You are all set.
  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 11:01:47 5,447 posts
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    Ah ok, I'll kill those hoplites. I have the large shards I think and a few chunks iirc.

    Also need some more sharpstone to get my winged spear to +7....
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 11:14:23 11,973 posts
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    Dangerous_Dan wrote:
    Obviously a french dialect thing. Feel sorry for them really.
    Just jealousy - but you can set up a small french enclave at home. Have some red wine on your decked garden and invite some femme fatale. You are all set.
    I didn't say I wasn't french did I.

    And I might be partial to the odd tipple of wine

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  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 11:24:25 2,380 posts
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    Touché!

    (I had to google for that 'e')

    Edited by Dangerous_Dan at 11:25:02 02-10-2013
  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 11:28:29 5,447 posts
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    I'm actually in Paris with work next Wednesday, maybe I'll see you both there :)
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 12:16:08 11,973 posts
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    haha

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  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 13:05:49 2,380 posts
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    Peut-être...
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 14:10:51 11,973 posts
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    baguettes or gtfo

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  • Dangerous_Dan 2 Oct 2013 16:28:39 2,380 posts
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  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 16:47:54 5,447 posts
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    Tres bien Daniel, merci
  • quadfather 2 Oct 2013 17:46:48 11,973 posts
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    See what demon's souls can do to you

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  • robc84 2 Oct 2013 22:43:27 5,447 posts
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    2-2 done. Did what kitt said (sort of!). Ran to the left but got spotted straight away. Found a bone to hide behing and kept hitting him and running round the other side when he came for me. So wasn't a cheap win imo!

    Went back into 4-1 to trade some items with sparkly. Them skellies hate the dragon sword dont they! Am I likely to need my telescope? If not I'll trade it with sparkly (love sparkly btw!).
  • quadfather 3 Oct 2013 08:44:00 11,973 posts
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    Well done. potentially One of the hardest bosses down and now you can unlock blacksmith Ed in 2-2 with flamelurkers soul and create funky stuff.

    Dragon sword is ace on the skellies isn't it :) I really enjoy going back there when I've got it. You'll batter them now.

    Might as well trade it in. I've never really used it.

    Hehe sparkly is cool. Plenty of stuff to trade too. Be easier to just have a look at the wiki to get the full list of stuff you can trade. Will save time.

    So, what's next then?

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  • robc84 3 Oct 2013 08:53:10 5,447 posts
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    Once I got myself into position it wasn't too bad. Got caught out once by his flame attack but after that I just backed away a bit when he looked like he was going to do something. Perhaps a little bit cheap to hide away like that, but hey, I'm just a man and he is a giant monster made of fire. Gotta use every advantage I can!

    Yeah One hit with R2, a couple with R1. Even the black skellies are no problem now. Well the ones in 4-1 anyway.

    Yeah I've had a look at the wiki. Traded in a few bits that I have.

    I want to have a go at 5-1 but I may finish making my lava bow first. A couple more trips to world 1 should do it.

    How do I give that soul to blacksmith Ed? Couldn't see an option to do it.
  • quadfather 3 Oct 2013 08:59:49 11,973 posts
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    You have to have the soul in your inventory and repeatedly talk to him. Takes 3 or 4 conversations. Its the only bit in the game that I find a bit cunty really. God knows how you'd work out to give the soul to him. Though I suppose you visit him a lot over time so the conversation would eventually pop up. Just keep selecting the talk option with him

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  • robc84 3 Oct 2013 09:04:05 5,447 posts
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    I tried that but it didn't work. I kept just getting the same conversation....

    Edit: The wiki says I need to use the spider archstone to return to the nexus before he will ask about the soul. I've definitely done this but maybe I need to do it with the soul in my inventory. Seems a bit silly really.

    Edited by robc84 at 09:12:46 03-10-2013
  • quadfather 3 Oct 2013 09:25:24 11,973 posts
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    Might as well do it to rule it out. It is a bit daft but once it's done it's done

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