Reggie likes Halo, BioShock News

Yes, more games for people with brains please.

And less guns.

>>Yes, more games for people with brains please.
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>>And less guns.

The problem with that is the largest worldwide market is America. Famous for the opposite attributes.

Well October/November are certainly good months for us Wii owners with Metroid Prime 3 out and Super Mario Galaxy out in a matter of weeks. I have to keep pinching myself to make sure I'm not dreaming as, on reflection, the Wii has had a poor year for quality releases so far and hasn't seen a triple A game since Zelda: Twilight Princess in my opinion. Yes, Resident Evil 4 came out on the Wii but that was a port of a two-year old GameCube title and doesn't stand out in my mind as being a "proper-made-for" Wii game. Capcom didn't even bother updating the visuals.

Still if SM Galaxy turns out as good as it's claimed to be then none of that will matter as I suspect that's a game with weeks, if not, months of top quality gaming and at least it isn't a shooting, sports or racing game!

So weeks of platforming is enough for you? To each his own, I guess.

">>Yes, more games for people with brains please.
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>>And less guns. "

Or give people a choice, such as in games like Deus Ex (Not the sequel which to be honest doesn't live up to the original in any way).

/applauds reggie

Yes, more games for people with brains please.

And less guns.

What a load of shit. You are basically saying that if you like FPS games, you must be a dumb fuck. Well, the same could be said about every game type.

Think we'll only be able to tell if the Wii is a fad once SMG has been out a little while. If ninty can't turn a good amount of those hardware units into software sells with the worlds most well known game character how are they going to start shifting games or will the just keep banging out the hardware and knock software development on the head as a lose maker.

I think, in retrospect, the Wii will actually have had a very good first year - Wii Sports; Zelda; Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Galaxy are all AAA titles.

Excite Truck, Mercury, Super Paper Mario, Trauma Centre and Resi Evil 4 are all great, and there looks like being some more good stuff when Lego Star Wars, the Zapper games and Zack & Wiki arrive.

If someone told me a year ago that I'd have all of that to look forward to in year 1, I'd be pretty happy. It's just a shame a large amount of the quality has been loaded into the last 3 months of the year, leaving us with a drought for most of the rest of it.

Good for Reggie.

Xerx3s -- You are basically saying that if you like FPS games, you must be a dumb fuck. Well, the same could be said about every game type.

I don't think he is saying that, but what I think he means is that generally there are far too much guns/explosions/killing games with very little thought process required, and generally very poorly designed games (and yes, I do even include GTA in that, which I think is absolute bollocks).

It's okay to have those types of games to an extent. The thing is with consoles like the 360, it's all the console is really known for in my opinion.

I'm as much a fan of Civilization as I am Halo, and while it's true that slower paced, more thoughtful games are scarce on consoles as a whole, as the industry matures the market will diversify to meet everyone's tastes.

I'm really looking forward to the new Civ, and if Microsoft could make a leap of faith and convert Microsoft Flight Sim I think they'd be surprised at the take-up. Nintendo's bravery should be applauded, then emulated.

That was the funniest quote of the weekend "I'm not sure (LBP) belongs on their format"

Wish you had thought of it first Reggie?

Might have belonged on yours if it was capable of next gen graphics and community features, bug-eyed dumbfeck

">>Yes, more games for people with brains please.
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>>And less guns.

The problem with that is the largest worldwide market is America. Famous for the opposite attributes."


lol. it depends. for the 360 it's biggest market is us that's why.

personally if every game with guns was an unreal tournament 2004 or a half life 1 or 2 i wouldn't mind. only problem are things like halo come out (havn't played 2 or 3 which might rock but 1 sucked guys. and that was BEFORE i played half life 1 (in 2006 mind you) which totally changed my standards for fps games). fps feels like it needs more innovation right now. well at least it's not as bad as console rpgs

More non-news.

""Yes, more games for people with brains please.

And less guns."

What a load of shit. You are basically saying that if you like FPS games, you must be a dumb fuck. Well, the same could be said about every game type."

No, I don't think he's saying that at all. When I read that I instantly thought of the excellent Half-life (1 or 2) in particularly the non-shooting sections there with the physics puzzles and of the (almost) equally excellent Metroid Prime, which is in my opinion far more adventure game than FPS (hence, First Person Adventure).

For a lot of FPS titles that I've played the only real "advancement" of the game play comes when you get the ZOMG-2000 plasma rifle or some other wunder weapon. Simply wading through room after room of mindless hordes while picking up weapons is older than Wolfenstein 3D but the game play in a lot of FPS's hasn't "evolved" past that yet. Maybe it shouldn't, it still appears that people like that kind of narrow focus on a single game type and good luck to them, but after a couple of dozen years gaming I like a little more to my games.

"Wish you had thought of it first Reggie?

Might have belonged on yours if it was capable of next gen graphics and community features, bug-eyed dumbfeck
"
I don't think you're reading that right, I think he means in context of platform. As in due to the cost of the console and audience that has been buying it so far I don't (and I think he thinks) think it'll sell as well as it deserves. It's personally the PS3 game I'm looking forward to the most, and it will sell, but IMO it'll sell in the same numbers (probably less given the number of PS3 units out there) as Okami and Psychonauts. Which will be a crying shame.

It's nice for a top games exec to say something complementary about its competition, although you could argue he probably wouldn't be saying it if he wasn't sitting on a humongous pile of cash.

""I've been very intrigued with LittleBigPlanet," he said this month. "I don't know that it belongs on their platform,""

Translation - "bollox, wish we had signed that one".


Otherwise, all good common sense commentary. Nice to see some positive comment instead of the usual poo flinging.

@Xerx3s

"What a load of shit. You are basically saying that if you like FPS games, you must be a dumb fuck. Well, the same could be said about every game type."

In your rath, you seem to misunderstand the meaning of the word "and".

"Xerx3s -- You are basically saying that if you like FPS games, you must be a dumb fuck. Well, the same could be said about every game type.

I don't think he is saying that, but what I think he means is that generally there are far too much guns/explosions/killing games with very little thought process required, and generally very poorly designed games (and yes, I do even include GTA in that, which I think is absolute bollocks).

It's okay to have those types of games to an extent. The thing is with consoles like the 360, it's all the console is really known for in my opinion. "

Well yeah, something like that :)

That was an awesome knee-jerk Xerx3s :)

*This just in*

Games industry type likes good, well-selling, games!

Shock! Horror! Halol! etc etc

"Certainly, the Halo trilogy - anyone who would look at that and say, 'No, I think we could live without it,' probably doesn't think real long about this industry.

Is he adding to rumour that Microsoft are selling to EA - or is he just taking the piss out of MS?

Darren

Don't forget to add Zack and Wiki in December (PAL) - although after SMG not sure much else will get a look in for a while.

He should have got them to add a Haloesque Plasma Sword to metroid 3. Unless, they have and it happens later on - infact nobody bother answering that!! lol

"most well known game character how are they going to start shifting games"

The idea that they aren't shifting games is rather a misconception. Yes the attach rate isn't as high as the 360, but the 360 is selling rather a large amount of games.

The Wii has sold 13,170,000 units up to Sept 30th 2007.
The number of Wii games sold up to the same date is 65,810,000, but that does include 11 million copies of Wii Sports (although bare in mind the Japanese had to buy their copies separately from the console). So minus all of the Wii Sports (as I have no idea how many copies where sold in Japan) = 54810000 units of software \ by number of consoles 13170000 give an attach of 4.16, which is bloody good. Bare in mind it'll be higher then that because of the six million or so separately bought copies of Wii Sports. Oh and if anybody wants to know the number of Wii Play units in that 65mil, Six million copies of Wii Play have been sold worldwide.

Source = http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=11202

All Wii has is Platformers and Puzzle games... wheres the innovationz man!!! o_O wheres the racers, the RPGs and the FPS' too? Hardly any and if the few that are there dont take your fancy(like with me sorry guys metroid isnt AAA its overated crap shit, HalfLife 1 is better than that lolz Im an expert cos I played them both) then whats the point in the Wii after Wii sports has lost its charm(and you wouldnt call yourself a platformer fan... for dumb asses them just runing and jumping around mindlessly stomping on enemies and the like, Ive been playing games for going on 20 years and I prefer a little more than that... like to think Ive moved on from the first 5 years of that*schoff-chuckle*).

*Special notice... the above is the polar opposite of a Nintendo fanboy and everthing said is a counter measure to their poorly thought out critisisms of "stuff that isnt Nintendo" - HOW ANNOYING IS IT?*

GingerNathan no you see if something isnt no1 its teh flop, Zelda was the last one they didnt sell enough, Super Mario Galaxy the last Mario? Wait here while I get some figure I dont understand for you to prove my FUD... er I mean facts, facts! ;)

@Killerbee

Completly agree, the Wii has actually had a very good first year. Even if there was a drought over the summer, it has got one game each in it's top 3 franchises, all AAA titles, and once Mario is reviewed I expect they're all be at least 9/10.

Compare this to most consoles first year (including previous ninty consoles) and I think it shows a glowing future.

Certianly, in my first year of owning a 360 the only games I bought were Gear of War and Dead Rising, and Gear was the only one I'd describe as AAA.

The PS3 also has failed to display any killer apps yet and I think we'll have to wait till MGS4 and Killzone2 to see console shifting games.

"He also offered his view on what gaming as a whole needs to do to sit alongside film and books as a comparable entertainment choice"

In my opinion we just need to let time run its course. As soon as the gamers of today (and the last 20 years) grow up to be grannies and granddads the % of people playing games will have increased dramatically as its what we know and enjoy. Books have been around for forever and film and TV have been around long enough to become established as a cultural pasttime. Give it long enough and the same will happen to gaming.

At least Reggie has good taste.

Yaster: "Might have belonged on yours if it was capable of next gen graphics and community features, bug-eyed dumbfeck"

High-def is a gimmick. :-P

@BadBoyBonner - I forgot about Zack & Wiki! I saw the GameTrailer's video review and it's definitely a game I want. Thanks for reminding me about it. Well it's official then, we Wii owners are finally being well and truly spoilt! LOL

P.S. Got my copy of Metroid Prime 3 at long last this morning from Gameplay... it was sent last Wednesday!!! /shock

Yes Nintendo as a suprising good first year, but the rush of 'me too me too' publishers getting out the ported Wii games stink the place up!
Wii's FIFA 08 is now a more reasonable example of a multi platform title made ground up for Wii (controller and different features), but generall publisher should need to treat Wii quite separate to the next gen consoles (current gen but compared to Wii's processing grunt).

In the long run, will consumers still be satisified once novelty of controller wears out, at playing noticeably different multi platform game as to what is available to the next gen owners? There will be occasions of all three being set up in pretty much same way but dont think it ll work in majority due to different capabilities.

I think the best examples to shine on Wii will remain the exclusive titles and not the multi platforms, Super Mario Galaxy, MP3 but hoping for ever better numbers of them. As to be honest Resident Evil 4 and Zelda are just Gamecube game ported to Wii.

I wont be suprised if we will see an increase in a proportion of Wii-only owners also later then own one of next gen console (cost being made more reasonable) as especially when HDTV take a greater share as most owned TV. Unless Nintendo release HD capable next gen Wii before the HD becoming too much the norm (majority of X360 and PS3 owners have SDTV and thus presently wasting the potential of consoles).

Some will try to make Wii out to be an inferior cousin, Super Mario Galaxy will show the error of that view but what after this? Let Nintendo step up to the base!

@ GingerNathan

Let's not forget that the 360 has been around twice as long as the Wii. That obviously has a significant impact on attachrate.

"In the long run, will consumers still be satisified once novelty of controller wears out, at playing noticeably different multi platform game as to what is available to the next gen owners?"

I think they will still be satisfied. The controller makes gaming accessible to people not interested in it before. Seeing the controller as just a novelty is typical of hardcore gamers that can't live without a joypad. Games on the Wii will only get better. Publishers have recognised their mistake in betting on the 360 and PS3 and are shifting resources to the Wii. Of course that will result in even more crap games but the absolute amount of gems will rise as well.

"Is he adding to rumour that Microsoft are selling to EA"

Where on earth did this rumour come from?

Can someone actually point to a source that isn't just some internet poster saying "EA have lots of money, so they might buy the XBox brand"?

I like Halo & Bioshock but I don't feel a need to tell the world about it Reggie.

"I like Halo & Bioshock but I don't feel a need to tell the world about it Reggie. "

He was asked in an interview, he didn't call a press conference for the purpose of praising his competition. :/

Les sez >>> Publishers have recognised their mistake in betting on the 360 and PS3 and are shifting resources to the Wii.

Our sources say >>> Ehhh ERRRR!

Dont be too sure of yourself just yet, on the 360 atleast I doubt they see backing that as a mistake, many-many titles have performed very well(they will be most pleased and impressed if anything judging by the figures, I dont see where you get mistake from at all because titles are still performing better on 360 which has a better library with more competition for software sales and the gap in installed base is next to nothing) and some titles just couldnt be done on Wii without being scaled back to something not nearly as good.

I dont think some people understand that its not as simple as switching everything just because right now one holder seems to be selling more consoles(thats never going to happen anyway, think sofware sales... how many times?), some devs will prefer working with powerfull hardware and some devs just arent suited to the Wii styling. So naturally publishers will place devs on the right projects. Theyve already invested alot in some new next gen engines in most cases, so you can bet that even if Wii does dominate in the end(a long way to go before then) it wont have a landslide of support like some are hoping(obviously performing well increases support though so yeah there should be a greater chance of some 3rd party Wii exclusives having reached/passed the 10 million mark).

Anyway just some annoyances with the Nintendo fanboys there, I do hope Nintendo or maybe some 3rd party devs really deliver games that are big blockbuster, innovative, never seen before, AAA must haves. Then I'll buy a Wii but not untill then, SSMB is the only title to have me wanting to play it thus far and thats not all that new or innovative I just liked the last one(nothing against Mario Galaxy or Metroid but like they say of Halo - they arent the be all end all like the fanboys make out. Although they both look and sound ok so far, neither are must haves for me) lead by example rather than sat preaching while you do the same thing with the excuse being a new controller.

"Games on the Wii will only get better. Publishers have recognised their mistake in betting on the 360 and PS3 and are shifting resources to the Wii. Of course that will result in even more crap games but the absolute amount of gems will rise as well."

Good lord, no.

>Good lord, no.

Of course that'll happen if the wii keeps selling!

Doesnt take a genuis surely?

What are you saying "good lord, no" to exactly?

If Nintendo completely smothers this gen and stifles 360 dev time, i'm totally gonna ditch this hobby and leave it to the bonehead masses.

"If Nintendo completely smothers this gen and stifles 360 dev time, i'm totally gonna ditch this hobby and leave it to the bonehead masses."


sigh.

It's no different to how it was last gen with the ps2/xbox. In fact the 360 isnt really selling any more than the xbox did.

Developers/publishers are in business to make a profit. They'll always support the best selling machine regardless of power.

Look at the amount of support the ps2 got with it's 120 million units compared to the (technically superior) cube and xbox with their 20 million units a piece.

360 could still do way better than Xbox ever did is a point that many haters will try and ignore at all costs(personally I think it could be approaching double what Xbox at the end of last gen did if they turn it around fast enough)... given the dynamics of it, its not all that unlikely either, many gamers do see it as the best choice this gen and have yet to take the plunge.

I do think Nintendo has it won BUT only if they can keep this momentum going for another year and 360 wont necessarily be miles behind when all is said and done, I dont think the Wii will do as well as PS2 for example. 360 could just as easily be a hit in its own right even if thats not at the no1 spot.

Its good to see reggie saying this stuff, for one, it says hes not a total blind nintendo fanboy, but two, you praise what the 'others' are doing. He is talking abuot the industry as a whole and hes right. Nintendo is opening the doors for the casuals, while sony and microsoft are showing them what can be done once inside the door. You could argue any which way you like about what nintendo are doing, but if they went down the ps3/360 path, the industry wouldnt be as alive as it is today.

"ersonally I think it could be approaching double what Xbox at the end of last gen did if they turn it around fast enough)"


But it's not doing.. So far the sales figures are near exactly 1:1 with what the xbox sold by this point in time.

It's been out 2 years with 12 (appx) million sales.. if the xbox is owt to go by, there will be a new one in 2 years time.


BUT as i said.. devs will just chase the best selling machine. If the wii continues to sell the way it is doing (and none of us can predict if it will or not) then devs will move over.

As for the 360.. i'm still not discounting the ps3 yet. I've STILL yet to actually see a ps3 actually running (weirdly?), but i still have my money on ps3 at LEAST overtaking the 360.

@Smelly

BUT as i said.. devs will just chase the best selling machine. If the wii continues to sell the way it is doing (and none of us can predict if it will or not) then devs will move over.

BUT as I said... money has been spent on next gen technology already, they WILL want to use that and make that investment back, in some cases this will mean Wii is excluded. Also not all devs are suited or want to work on the Wii. Publishers know how to get the best out of their dev teams, they dont want to loose any devs which could happen if they are forced off projects theyve been planning/looking forward to with more powerfull hardware.

The point is you cannot be certain of how the rest of this generation will pan out, I know what you want to beleive "MS last place so I can celebrate", yeah woohoo right? Well no, 360 does have alot more going for it than you are admitting to(because you are a Nintendo Fanboy), 360>>> PS3(and wii in alot of cases when you ask proper gamers) "games are better and theres more of them" is getting more and more common to hear(of course you hate that right?)

t's been out 2 years with 12 (appx) million sales.. if the xbox is owt to go by, there will be a new one in 2 years time.

That says it all, this isnt like last gen at all, if you cant see the differences then I wonder why you are bothering discussing it at all. There some obvious ones that are huge compared to last gen. Bigger games, sooner, more of them, more dev support, best tools and good attach rates from the start. Great word of mouth from those who do own it(who didnt bitterly buy one because even they knew it was the only thing worth playing for a long while) such as: "LOVE the console, most fun Ive had with one that I can remember but reliability needs to improve"(now ignoring everything but the last part brings us back to being selective in what you acknowlege, IF confidence in reliability is sorted soon enough, you can argue all you want but theres a good chance of them doing exactly as I suggested) which I think will eventually pay off and be the reason PS3 arrives last place and Wii doesnt dominate as much as you're hoping.

Final point... "cutting lifespan short just like sucky M$ did da last time"?

There was more than one reason for that decision an important one that you are ignoring being Xbox components werent technically their own so they didnt have the freedom Sony and Nintendo did in reducing manufacturing costs... 360 wasnt being sold at a loss for nearly as long(I think it was just over 1 year before they broke even according to some sources, as for the first Xbox some sources say they never broke even because they had to remain at a competative price point) why would they be in such a rush this time even if they dont reach no1 spot?

A) They will already tried that B) They WANT to concentrate on software sales like every platform holder wants to(they are getting really good at that if you ask me)... launches are expensive, launching early is expensive... use some logic and ask yourself is your theory likely or just something you hope happens to piss off "dumb Xbots who betrayed Nintendo"?

Graph time

"If Nintendo completely smothers this gen and stifles 360 dev time, i'm totally gonna ditch this hobby and leave it to the bonehead masses."

I'd say the ones that are boneheaded are the graphics whores, the people that just put up with cyclical graphics updates and nothing more. That's what's destroying this hobby, not something that finally tries a different approach like the Wii.

Hey, have I also mentioned a great little console called the 360? It actually has games worth buying - games you don't have to wait for, only to be disappointed when they fail to meet your inflated expectations! Plus, you'd be supporting the next generation of great developers, not tired has-beens who haven't figured out that their company's future lies in new franchises rather than terminally dated ones that use superfluous gimmicks whose evident appeal is found only in the minds of nostalgia-added fans!

"Hey, have I also mentioned a great little console called the 360?"

Yeah, that's what I responded to: The only thing that machine has brought is a new low in hardware reliability, a new high in peripheral profit margins and shiny versions of yesteryear's games. Call me not impressed.

(and for the record: I'm not impressed by the PS3 either when it comes to next gen games. Had its games not been region lock free I would never have bought it)

LOL @ Tonka nice try, a) where is it from? Nintendo my ass, since when did they resort to shitty missleading graphs like that? b) I notice how the cut off period chosen was at a time of a PS3 spike due to "price cuts" which never last more than 2 weeks after which 360 overtakes again(the software charts say it all too, destroy alot of "its just the UK" theories, UK was a big Sony supporter too but things change, get over it)

I'd prefer some proper figures thankyou very much, 360 has been outselling PS3 in more countries than the UK thats for sure(I dont see how anyone can beleive 360 isnt whooping PS3 in Europe bar a few exceptions but just wait for the official figures and we'll see).

Les make your choice...

"Yesteryears games with shiney graphics, better physics and AI" or
"Yesteryears most basic games with a new way to control them"

Face it theres too much hypocrisy in it to take that attitude.