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Star Wars: Battlefront II Review

Xbox PlayStation 2 Review by Jim Rossignol

10 November, 2005

I'd like there to be something intelligent, perhaps analytical, in my head when I see the trappings of Episodes One through Three on my television. But all I can do is listen to the Vader-scream looping in my brain: "NOOOOOO!"

Incredibly, some of my friends and peers have informed me that the third Star Wars film in the most recent trilogy was the best of the three. Is the 'best' of three kicks in the stomach the one that actually bursts your kidneys?

I was surprised at the sheer audacity of Episode III's awfulness. Entertaining, yes, but in some tortured, ironic sense of the word I'd not been expecting. In fact having recently watched the original Star Wars for the first time in many years, it seems as if the two trilogies are barely related at all. The originals were a pleasing fluke of entertaining cinema that somehow captured greatness, while the latest were little more than a CGI debauch, a cynical cash-venting exercise of the kind that the original films were probably supposed to have been back before Lucas stumbled into the Light and Magic of the big franchise.

Anyway, that pre-ramble goes to say that no matter how much of a slack-jawed geek I can be, no matter how superb I believe TIE Fighter to be, and no matter how many times I watched The Empire Strikes Back on that crummy VHS tape when I was a kid, there remains no residual fondness for the world of Star Wars in my mind. The land of sci-fi goodness has been despoiled and poisoned. Nothing remains.

Battlefront 2, then, is without the aura of 'fantasy fulfilment' that I've heard so many folk refer to with reference to these games. Apparently we were supposed to forgive the rubbishness of the original Battlefront because it allowed us to take our place in the Star Wars battles around which our tiny imaginations were clustered. I can't see it like that. Instead there is simple the skeleton of a sci-fi combat game, something sat between the Unreal games and Battlefield on the PC. (And the original was rubbish, a zillion-xillion units sold or otherwise.)

So let's do the basics: Battlefront is a multiplayer-focused third-person shooter which pitches multiple players and AI bots on a Star Wars battlefield, complete with FPS standards such as soldier-classes (sniper/shooter/medic/bazooka) and respawn points. While most of the action involves running around, shooting, getting killed and respawning, some of it involves running to a vehicle, zooming around and then exploding. And respawning. Occasionally you'll capture a strategic point on the map, and that helps you win the battle, if you're lucky. Battlefront 2 is the same, but more so. The clones are here, and they have new toys.

'Star Wars: Battlefront II' Screenshot 1

Protect Princess Peach from Darth Bowser's stormtroopers.

This sequel raises the slow meandering of the original to a determined run, as almost everything gets a tweak and a fiddle from Pandemic Studios. The focus of the fiddling is on extra stuff for the single-player modes, which are now heavily ornamented with objective-based minor-cast-member-narrated fighting. The classic Rebel Alliance galaxy-conquering mode is the most entertaining, with various fleets moving about the galaxy, assaulting entrenched planets and occasionally engaging the opposing fleet in space.

There are a selection of battles to oversee, each one based on events from various Star Wars laser-squalls; from those of the original films, bless their lost souls, to those of the clone-based sequels. Some of these are quite spectacular, others rather patchy. This is the oddest thing about Battlefront 2: while it's significantly more interesting than the original, some sections are excruciatingly bland. The battle for Yavin 4 provides plenty of foliage fun amongst the jungles and ruins, because Battlefront does vegetation and pools and rebel troopers quite well. A space battle at the same location, however, will be rather more disappointing. The clash of X-Wing and TIE lacks intensity, with just a few ships whizzing between near-featureless capitol ships. The barrage of laser fire which characterises Star Wars space battles is conspicuous by its lumpy absence. See that advert on TV? Yeah, well they used editing to make it look exciting. Shame the same can't be true of life. If the bloke who directed the adverts was in charge of your brain (as I'm sure he'd be pleased to be) then a perpetual barrage of just the exciting bits might keep you entertained. (And when playing the game.)

'Star Wars: Battlefront II' Screenshot 2

This year's TIE Fighter comes with 0% finance and interest free photon torpedos.

Anyway, there's also now a flourish of buzzing laser swords as Jedi take to the field. The dashing space-knights look very pretty, even if they don't add the profundity deserved of a galaxy's ultimate warrior to the proceedings. Their wild flailing seems rather at odds with the 'precision' idea of force/sabre powers. Furthermore they lack the utilitarian satisfaction of any of the standard footsoldier classes. I found it far more worthy to be a standard rebel trooper than I did to play Mace Windu, which just doesn't seem right.

This problem is particularly acute in multiplayer, with hero battles being something of a skill-free farce. That's troubling because despite all Pandemic's efforts to inject steroid-derived bulk into the flab of the original single-player, most folk want multiplayer combat against real people with Jedi. The Force combat is just a mess of melee, bound to end in hurled joypads and some unwarranted cussing in TV parlours across the continent. It's a shame.

(Also, and I think this might be true of all Star Wars games, there's occasions in which a nearby soldier will say "it's just like shooting Womp Rats, eh kid?" If that's true then would 'Star Wars: Rat Shooter' actually be an ideal concept for a future title? Or is it the case that Battlefront's combat is actually much better than simply shooting some rats, and which case shouldn't the soldier try to avoid dissing his own game by continually making the easy rat-cull comparisons? Hmm.)

'Star Wars: Battlefront II' Screenshot 3

NOOOOO!

So then there's the Padawan-free possibilities of vehicular entertainments. Like pneumatic slaves forced to give us piggyback rides for our slight amusement, the vehicles of the Star Was universe have been forced to serve Battlefront's nefarious ends, and make up the most amusing portion of the game. Walkers and stompy metal gun-hippos dominate the shooting, although perhaps without the all-powerful finality of the vehicles of the original game. It's fun to watch the simple AI drive the vehicles around aimlessly, driving up to each other shooting like the mindless figments of algebra that they are. Yes, the bots remain numbingly stupid and regularly wander into walls and fail to do anything tactically worthy. Of course you'll have plenty of human players to provide their own brand of mindlessness too, thanks to Xbox Live (or PS2 and PC online stuff for you Sony and Miscellaneous brand consumers), which is a mostly good thing, because the single-player game plays out with a sense that you barely effect the course of the battle, even if you try really hard. At least in a multiplayer game the loss (or victory) isn't solely your responsibility, and that's a comforting feeling.

I'm probably going to be seen as the grumbling bastard of the Battlefront 2 reviews, I know. But while it was never truly horrible, it's hard to exult it above dozens of other possible game experiences this year. With my PC bias I can see that the real sense of battle-fun war-intensity was delivered best by Battlefield 2, while the throbbing heart of Xbox action still remains in the armoured torsos of Halo and Halo 2. Living up to the achievements of other games is one of Battlefront 2's biggest problems: The acute sense of excitement and precision in combat of the Halo games is absent, likewise the intensity of being in a firefight delivered by Battlefield 2. All the explosions and laser-fire feel a lot like window-dressing, even if the game does have some attractive scenery. If the original Battlefront was an X-Wing crashed in the swamps of Dagobah, then Battlefront 2 is that same X-Wing raised by The Force powers of Pandemic's Yoda onto dry land. It's in a better position, but it's still stuck on the mud-planet of a green-skinned hermit dwarf. And we all know how that feels.

There's potential here, like a thermal detonator tucked deep in the bunker of the whole Battlefront concept.

But none of that matters, because all I can think is: "NOOOOO!"

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DDevil
10/11/05 @ 07:14
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LOOK!

THERE is your review of Battlefront II.

Now for the love of God, stop complaining there's no SW:BFII review.

/watches people complain about the number at the end of the review.
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10/11/05 @ 07:30
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While I wholeheartedly agree with the reviewer's opinions of the movies, I do think they have no place in a game review.
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10/11/05 @ 07:39
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And I thought I was alone in hating episode 3

Noooooooo! just about sums it up :-)

With no apologies to George Lucas I won't be buying this game or the film. I still remember fondly the old Lucasarts before they decided we all want crap Star Wars based games.

Is Sith an anagram?

Wobble
10/11/05 @ 07:40
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The movies are practically the only selling point of the game, I couldn't believe how bad this game was when i played the beta. Not having played battlefront I foolishly (it seems) expected battlefront 2 to be like battlefield 2 but with stormtroopers and ewoks and shit. Boy was I wrong.

1995 called, it wants its multiplayer back.
thegamesthething
10/11/05 @ 08:08
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I was surprised at the sheer audacity of the reviews awfulness. Entertaining, yes, but in some tortured, ironic sense of the word I'd not been expecting. In fact having recently read some of Jim's old reviews for the first time in many years, it seems as if the older and more recent reviews are barely related at all.

poor game, much worse review - 2/10
krudster [mod]
10/11/05 @ 08:12
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Or, maybe you just disagreed with Jim.
thegamesthething
10/11/05 @ 08:22
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only using his words

like i say, poor game, agree entirely, but giving a SW game to one so bitter with the whole experience might be a mistake? interestingly though, given the conclusions of the review, you may expect a 4 or 5 for this game, so he may still have fallen into the '+2 for SW veneer' trap of so many reviews over the years
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sleepless
10/11/05 @ 08:23
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I'm surprised that I mostly agree with review. If only some exec in Lucas Arts takes responsibility and decided that Lucas Arts could make real entertaining games once again. But its impossible now when SWB is still selling shitloads of copies and SWB II surely will be selling shitloads of copies.

/starts DosBox with X-Wing
DDevil
10/11/05 @ 08:28
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Reviews of reviews eh? Do you have nothing better to do?

IMO - This review tells you the following:

What the game is.
What the game does.
What is good about the game and why.
What is bad about the game and why.

Add to that a bit of harmless banter at the beginning, a few humourous picture captions and a number at the end and you've got a review that does NOT warrant a "poor game, much worse review - 2/10"

I give your comments a 4/10. Nice try but you ruined it by being an ass-hat.

By the by, my missus LOVES the first Battlefront. I might have to pick this one up just for that reason.
thegamesthething
10/11/05 @ 08:37
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@ ddevil

reviews of reviews of reviews eh - do you have nothing better to zzzzzzzzzzzz

nice insult too, keeping it adult
matrim83
10/11/05 @ 08:41
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I will probably still buy it TBH. I loved the prequel and I didn't much care for Battlefield 2 or Unreal tournaments online play (I'm probbly the only one though).
AceMaCool
10/11/05 @ 08:45
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Well, I really liked it.

Not played Battlefield 2 though so perhaps I'm just I'll informed.
Glitch
10/11/05 @ 08:53
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6/10

wrong, so wrong
Amajiro
10/11/05 @ 09:05
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I liked the review, and the preamble was relevant, because you do have to take the 'fantasy fulfilment' into account. Strip out the "but it's Star Wars" argument, and it's a mediocre game.

PS it's exalt.

/edit: I'm an idiot
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DDevil
10/11/05 @ 09:09
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Alright, yeah I'll admit, the insult was ill placed, but it was pre-coffee (plus I love that insult!). I apologise.

The review of a review of a review thing was purposeful though, "the ironing is delicious" and all that.

Oh and I'll always admit to not having anything better to do :-)
w00t
10/11/05 @ 09:10
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Having only played split-screen round a mates house, I'd say 6 seems fair. That does mean better than average.
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10/11/05 @ 09:22
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It's a review. It's Jim's opinion on what he thought of the game.
If you like it - good for you. If you don't - that's fine too
For those of us with an interest in the Star Wars oeuvre, who don't have access to the game it allows us an insight to how it plays.
It's reasonable to assume that if we're looking at a review of a Star Wars game, we probably have some interest in the Star Wars films (not movies please, this is England).

Combining a knowledge of Jim's previous reviews (Have I agreed with him, have I disagreed with him?), it allows the reader to form a basic opinion on whether the game is worthy of further investigation.

Critcising a review because it doesn't match your own opinion is tantamount to disliking someone because they don't have the same birthday as you.
Everybody's different.

I we can go some way to injecting some manners and politeness back into EG, which has been sadly lacking of late it would be, I feel, a good thing.
Thank you.
Dr_Actually
10/11/05 @ 09:23
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Bad review. Who is this clown?
Celeborn
10/11/05 @ 09:23
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The comments about the movies ARE worthwhile because a LOT of the general public buy these games purely based on
"OMG, ITS STAR WARS; BATTLES LIKE IN THE MOVIES"
His comment that he had no care for the star wars universe anymore imho meant that the rest of the review was therefore based on his opinion on how the game played; NOT based on how "cool" it was that the maps, models, weapons and skins had a Star Wars theme.

With such a big franchise as this, I think making that clarification was important.
Magic Panda
10/11/05 @ 09:34
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Im firmly in the Bad review camp as well, it came across quite strongly to me as if the reviewer had already decided that games fate in the first few lines purely because of his view of the films.

Ive no doubt the score is about right though. :)
Furbs
10/11/05 @ 09:35
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I hate to criticise reviews, but I would be interested to know what say, Ellie's take on it was. Lets be honest, you're only going to buy a Star Wars licenced game if you are big (for that read apologist!) Star Wars fan. Oh and the fact its written by someone who admits to a clear PC bias (ok, its out on PC, but its not really fair to consider it a PC FPS - its aimed firmly at consoles) makes it hard. When I was playing it on my Xbox, I wasnt comparing it to say, BF1942 or BF2 on the PC.

Personally I enjoyed it. Its not classic, but its better than alot of licensed stuff thats out there, and I totally disagree about the space battles. They felt really intense to me, and would make a good game in their own right. Opinions and assholes and all that.
Fozzie_bear
10/11/05 @ 09:36
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Quite right Celeborn. If a game wants to tap into feelings of goodwill created by anothe franchise (and if they didn't they wouldn't make licenced games, would they?) then it's near on essential that the reviewer makes his feelings clear about that franchise.

If you feel like Jim you'll view the game the same way. If you love everythign star wars you know you can probably add a point or two.

Another excellent review, i reckon. Getting a bid fed up of all the endless carping about every review that gets posted. It's an opinion! An individual's opinion. If they disagree with yours they're not saying that you're wrong! Don't worry! If you want to read OMG! It Rocks!!!! reviews all the time then there are plenty of websites and magazines which cater for you already.
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10/11/05 @ 09:41
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"Getting a bid fed up of all the endless carping about every review that gets posted"

That's not so much to do with the reviews as it is people pursuing grudges against the site though.

Good review. I didn't think much of the Battlefront games tbh, not really much fun imo. But then the only decent SW games I've played are either on PC or Gamecube.
krudster [mod]
10/11/05 @ 09:43
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You'd think Jim had called every Star Wars fan's mum a ho. Honestly.
Burnt Kona
10/11/05 @ 09:49
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Get Totally Games back to do a next gen X-Wing vs Tie-Fighter and I will be happy
tubeoftoothpaste
10/11/05 @ 09:50
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who throws a cupcake? honestly!
Perry
10/11/05 @ 09:51
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Very harsh on Jim, and I really can't believe some people have cracks at reviews.

From dictionary.com

Opinion:
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof

Muppets, all of ya
octo
10/11/05 @ 09:53
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It's perfectly fine not to like episodes I-III. These are films made for children packed full of things adults can enjoy. If they want to. Certainly there were many people who didn't like the original trillogy also. That's bound to impact on your experience of battlefront; If you have no connection to the material then this is simpy a poor mans battlefield in star wars clothing.

Personally, I found the biggest failing of the original game to be in utterly breaking the online multiplayer experience it was designed to be. Through a combination of bad interface design, terrible netcode and a traditional server selection system that further compounded things, battles became frustratingly broken affairs. It brought out all of the shortcomings in xbox Live. It was also "patched" several times, something I thought Live would not succumb to. That alone precludes me from buying this game because every review I have seen for it mentions that nothing has really changed.
Shrui
10/11/05 @ 09:57
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I was pleased with the review. I've been waiting for a decent Star Wars game for ages (last I think was Jedi Knight 2 or Xwing series) but I won't buy a sub-standard game just because it's Star Wars! The same applies to any other movie franchise.

So the comments at the start of the review let me know that the reviewer is judging the game on it's merits as a game and not just a "ride along" like those shitty theme park rides based on blockbuster movies. This is vital information to have since Lucasarts latest efforts have hardly been stellar (Oh I know someone will say KOTOR but remember that wasn't strictly Lucasarts efforts, was it?).

You want a second opinion? Go to GameRankings.
PearOfAnguish
10/11/05 @ 09:59
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Crap game, crap films. People whining about someone's opinion are also crap.
In any case, it's not necessary to like the films in order to enjoy Star Wars games, provided they're good. I think Star Wars (both trilogies) is shite, but TIE Fighter is one of my favourite games ever.

Thanks for an honest review.
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Celeborn
10/11/05 @ 10:03
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"Oh and the fact its written by someone who admits to a clear PC bias"
But again, he admitted this openly in his review; its not as if he kept it a secret from everyone.

So therefore, using a bit of intelligence, If.........
(1) You prefer / enjoy just as much Console fps' and their differences to PC fps, add 1 point to the final mark
(2) You think the whole star wars skinning of the game and putting you in "actual" Star Wars battles will enhance your enjoyment of the game above the actual game mechanics in how it plays, add 1 point to the final mark
(3) If you actively dress up like Star Wars characters and goto conventions, add 1 point to the final mark, and also go see a psychiatrist.

Job done
Tyronne
10/11/05 @ 10:03
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I know I have the pc version of this but after reading the review it must be completely different to the one I have been playing.This,like all the battlefields(1942/vietnam/2) I have bought not because of its single player side but simply because of its multiplayer side and truth be told I have not even played the single player bit of it as it does not interest me.

The only thing I would say regarding this review is that you knew the score was going to be low simply by how it started.
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10/11/05 @ 10:04
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Edit - Thanks Teeth, edits made.
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LOLLERS
10/11/05 @ 10:08
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"...the throbbing heart of Xbox action still remains in the armoured torsos of Halo and Halo 2."

Far Cry Instincts is pretty good multiplayer, and it looks good too, unlike Halo.
Tyronne
10/11/05 @ 10:08
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Funny thing about knocking those who wish to wear the costumes of whatever telly show/film/anime/whatever they like,should the same thing not apply to those who wear a certain football/rugby players shirt,after all that is nothing but a costume that they wear when they are out infront of a audience performing.
Celeborn
10/11/05 @ 10:10
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Eurogamer really is full of grumpy sods devoid of humour this morning eh? Typical Thursday morning blues!
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Stickman
10/11/05 @ 10:12
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Why do these comments sections have to degenerate into saying how terrible the reviewer is? If you're going to say the review is rubbish, at least back it up with something. How can the Star Wars franchise not have some bearing on the game? Substitute the stormtroopers for generic soldier #2, and this becomes a pedestrian multiplayer shoot 'em up, done better on all platforms already by the Halos and BF2. Someone who is jaded by the whole SW cashcow is in a better position to see this. It was a fair review, explaining the game's mechanics and what it presents to the player. It's the same people every time moaning and whining about how the reviewer's such a tool, and the game deserves a 7 rather than a 6. FFS, if you find the reviews that terrible, piss off to gamespot. This place'll be all the better without you.
mustardkid
10/11/05 @ 10:26
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Eurogamer - the worlds foremost pram/toy separation solution
gaijin
10/11/05 @ 10:48
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teeth - you missed "capitol" ships. Washington in space.
Scurrminator
10/11/05 @ 10:57
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I thought it was an okay game, good while drunk in four player split screen (nothing like jumping on your mates AT walker and slicing it up with your lightsabre on hoth lol).
Space battles are crud though - relive the opening battle from episode 3...with TWO motherships and an exciting dogfight between FIVE fighter ships - yeah!
Furbs
10/11/05 @ 10:59
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Stickman, is a person who is jaded by the SW franchise better placed to evaluate a SW game though? The fact its an SW licence means its (like it or not) more than the sum of its parts. The atmosphere, locations etc etc all count towards it. Its awkward, since obviously the license shouldnt make that much of a difference to the game, but it does. King Kong without the licence is a bland FPS with a beatemup bit tagged on, but "playing the film" will elevate it above this. I guess it depends on if you expect true objectivity in a review (ie is it a good game in its own right) or if you take in to account context. Tricky.
spelk
10/11/05 @ 11:20
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The SW Battlefront series may not truly fulfill the expectations of any SW fan, however they certainly have more of a chance of putting you in a SW based action scene than the likes of Star Wars Galaxies has ever done.
thegamesthething
10/11/05 @ 11:22
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Stickman, it says at the top, speak your brain - if posters want to comment on the review re either its method or conclusion, surely thats not a problem provided it doenst get insulting or personal - no-one has called Jim a tool, you are overreacting
Carrybagma
10/11/05 @ 11:24
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Everything you could ask from a reviewer - honesty and a well-chosen drop of cynicism.

How many good Star-Wars games are there anyway? X-Wing/TIE (so I'm told), the recent Lego one and the first Gamecube one? Just 3? Don't EA sports have a better record?

EDIT: Oh. KOTOR. Four then.
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Furbs
10/11/05 @ 11:29
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The Jedi Knight/Academy series, X-Wing Alliance, Star Wars Battleground (ok its only a mod of AoE2 but its a good game) and the new RTS may be quite good too. So its not all bad :)
thegamesthething
10/11/05 @ 11:29
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rogue squadron on the N64 was great, jedi starfighter on the PS2 had its moments too
Stickman
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@Furbs - aye, it's a point. Maybe the review should say '+2 if you're a SW fan' or similar.

@thegamesthething - taken in isolation on this one thread, then I suppose my post is over-reaction, but it's really just a build up over the last few months. More and more people come on and rather than discussing the game and its merits or bad points, it's just easier to become a literary critic and have a go at the style of review, or that the reviewer doesn't know what he's talking about or some other nonsense. I suppose it just finally got me down today. The tone of my post is meant to be more upset than angry.
Celeborn
10/11/05 @ 11:31
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Jedi Knight. Super Star Wars on the SNES
thegamesthething
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and of course the original star wars arcade game, a classic

and rebel assualt on the .... er, scratch that
Furbs
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And the SW:Trilogy arcade game.

I must admit to enjoying Rebel Assault though, especially the attack on the Star Destroyer. And RAssault 2 convinced me PC gaming was the way forward, it was stunning.

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