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PS3 GTA IV almost certainly 630p News

PlayStation 3 Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese

29 April, 2008

The PlayStation 3 version of Grand Theft Auto IV almost certainly runs in 630p.

Word spiralled from comparison shots by the same fellow responsible for outing Halo 3 as sub-HD, and the same chap who assists with our Face-Off screenshots before we show them to you.

However, Eurogamer's Face-Off compiler and resident big-brain Rich Leadbetter says that while the PS3 version may be a touch blurrier, it's not necessarily inferior. Far from it, in fact.

"It's worth noting that due to the post-processing effects the game employs (there's a serious amount of stuff being done to the raw frame), the PS3's lower resolution serves to mask a lot of the nasty after effects," said Leadbetter.

"For example, look at the dithering on the signs in the background on those shots. A bit ugly on Xbox 360, but smoothed and blurred away on PS3, presenting a generally nicer look."

Apparently the problem with pinning down the resolution previously was due to Rockstar releasing the bulk of its press shots on Xbox 360.

Look out for our full Grand Theft Auto IV Face-Off soon.

GTA IV is out today on PS3 and Xbox 360. You can buy it in shops, unless you queued up last night to get it, and lots of people did.

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Bealsy
29/04/08 @ 09:22
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and may the abuse begin....

"OMGZZZZZZ AN INSTALZ N ALSO RUBBISH 63oP OMGZZZZ TEH 360 iZ tEHh BEST"

"WHAT baOUt TeH HAlozz"

etc etc etc
killyourtv
29/04/08 @ 09:23
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ZOMG!!!11 TeH Apocalypse iz HERE!! noooooooo...
kingnothing12
29/04/08 @ 09:23
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another generic comment regarding fanboys...yawnssss zzzz
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Kryon
29/04/08 @ 09:24
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Didn't Sony say that the 360 wasn't 'true HD'? LOL.
Nath4n
29/04/08 @ 09:25
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Would post a comment but i'm off to HMV
Monkey_Puncher
29/04/08 @ 09:26
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Here's big cup of 'I couldn't give a fuck, just play the damn game'
Jheronimus
29/04/08 @ 09:26
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Take cover!!!
Kryon
29/04/08 @ 09:26
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C-mon headbog (AKA swam), I just LOLed at the PS3, what say you?
Sud
29/04/08 @ 09:27
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If I want more blur I'd just do it on my TV thank you.
Bealsy
29/04/08 @ 09:28
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"I just LOLed at the PS3, what say you?"

If you'd rofled that would be it. I've seen him when he sees a rofl, not a pretty sight.
Kryon
29/04/08 @ 09:29
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@Bealsy

I take your point.

/thinks....

PS3 LMFAO LOLLERSKATEZ! That should do it!
koji_m
29/04/08 @ 09:31
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internet implosion imminent!
Dizzy
29/04/08 @ 09:31
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True HD begins when we say it has. :)

So not yet I guess.

/coat

THB Halo 3 and CoD4 are lower res as well and look awesome. In the case of Halo it was done to improve the lighting and in the case of CoD4 (and GTA) it was done to get the framerate up.

/not coming back to this thread
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miiiguel
29/04/08 @ 09:31
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OMG, Halo 3 sucked because of this! Now what ?

Come on, do the spin for me baby!
Spin it! SPin it! The most ridicule way! Do it!
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monkie_king
29/04/08 @ 09:33
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And if you can see the difference either way when you're actually playing the game, you're an android.
Psiloc
29/04/08 @ 09:34
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OMFG
Kryon
29/04/08 @ 09:35
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630p is pretty much Wii graphics ain't it? Even the Atari Jaguar can do 800 x 576 pixels GLULZ!!!!111!!!!
miiiguel
29/04/08 @ 09:35
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Oh the Jaggies! Halo is sub-HD therefor Jaggy and shit..., ahahahah!, now what????

Come on do the spin, so I can cut/paste some of the dozens of coments that spawned in EVERY thread about Halo 3 graphics not beeing HD!

on a semi-serious tone: if PS3's didn't bash everything 360 they didn't have to face the facts so bluntly.
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Krusty
29/04/08 @ 09:37
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BAN THIS SICK FILTH... oops, wrong thread!

/waits for postie
Xerx3s
29/04/08 @ 09:38
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/sets up shop

GET YOUR WEAPONS HERE! MELEE WEAPONS HALF PRICE!!
miiiguel
29/04/08 @ 09:42
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I'm sure it looks good as Halo does, though. Too bad some kept bashing Halo's poor graphics which they are not, just because, and that's the sad part.

Peace.

/coffee time/
bad09
29/04/08 @ 09:43
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God hear we go AGAIN, it's like groundhog day :)

To be honest though, who the hell cares!!!! I didn't care H3 run at whatever res, it looked and played great which is ALL that matters. All this does is give the saddos something to bicker about (have you seen the GTA review thread?).
Kryon
29/04/08 @ 09:43
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@Xerx3s

I'll have a +1 Axe of Orgrimmar, my good man.
Stu
29/04/08 @ 09:43
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Who cares?
Xerx3s
29/04/08 @ 09:44
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That'll be 5 quid my dear man. Remember our one minute return policy.
monkie_king
29/04/08 @ 09:48
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I presume that if you play in 1080p, then the 360's upscaling from the 720p buffer will have a similar "smoothing" effect? Whereas the PS3 is going to just look more blurry at 1080p, having been scaled all the way up from 630p?

Can anyone confirm/refute that logic? It leads me to believe that the 360 should have the edge for people on a 1080p telly, if not for 720p peeps.

edit: I mean from a hypothetical pause-and-stare- obsessively-at-the-pixels standpoint, the real world difference while it's in motion is probably pretty imperceptible.
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Moz
29/04/08 @ 09:49
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The dithering is a little nasty, but give R* a brake this is there first in house 3D engine the only test run it had was table tennis!!

The game still looks very pretty (If a little too hazy during the day cycle) give them another year and the next outing of Graphics engine will look even better.
neil_likes_bums
29/04/08 @ 09:53
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If you care about this more than shooting people and humping ladies of the night - you have a problem. Another option would be to play GTA.
DFawkes
29/04/08 @ 09:53
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OMG! As everyone knows, being under HD means the gameplay will be awful, the soundtrack will be rendered unlistenable, the controls won't work, the mission structure will be linear with no freedom, and it will cause cancer.
Arnold__
29/04/08 @ 09:54
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But... but... but IGN said the PS3 version was 'technically more accomplished'?
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JOHNTIKIS
29/04/08 @ 09:54
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They both look identical.How about the frame rate?
monkie_king
29/04/08 @ 09:55
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Idiot Gamers Network, you mean?
Bloodkult
29/04/08 @ 09:57
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It's a kind of messy looking game on either system TBH.
It's a bit blurry and everything is ill-defined, especially in the far to middle distance.
monkie_king
29/04/08 @ 10:00
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There's definitely a bit of a depth-of-field being applied on some shots I've seen, so maybe it's intentionally muddy in the middle distance?
Garulon
29/04/08 @ 10:02
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The posterisation on the PS3 pavement is absolutely fucking dire. Remember kids if it's the PS3 that's under ressed it's a Good Thing
RazorObsession
29/04/08 @ 10:04
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Interesting. Its a shame the 360 version didn't give you the option to install if you had the hard drive and requisite space, though maybe if Rockstar had done that, it might well have performed better than the PS3 so as to be noticeable to the naked eye, possibly putting an end to the fanboy/console war.

All wars are profitable to the people selling the guns, and if the fanboy/console war were to end then the arms manufacturers (MS, Sony, Ninty) would make a lot less guns, and the ammo/software guys would sell less bullets. or something. its been a hard day, GTAing it up. analogies fail me atm.
Kryon
29/04/08 @ 10:04
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Here is a song on YouTube that I feel is relevant to this thread ;)
aldo_14
29/04/08 @ 10:04
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So much for the HD era, then? It seems that neither console can do 1080p to any significant degree, not least when it makes it look worse for those running at 720p.

It looks like apples and oranges to me (not literally), anyways. From what I can tell, there's more than just a resolution difference in output anyways. I have to admit still being torn as to which version is 'better' based on everything I've read so far.
miiiguel
29/04/08 @ 10:08
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I predict the vanishing of the "oh my god Halo 3 is more like Halo 2.5, as it's not even HD" coments. Thank you Rockstar, and most of all, thank you PS3!
Bloodkult
29/04/08 @ 10:11
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It's just not a clean DOF effect though (like UE3 etc), it's got a heat haze as well, it makes everything shimmer but it's not a clean effect at all, it just makes it look a bit of a mess in places.The effect looks like they whipped it straight out of San Andreas, which I had the same problem with (never stopped me 100% it though!)

The GTA games have never really been technical standouts anyway, and this is still really good.
Just seems stupid to argue endlessly about which one might look better when it's not even anywhere near the best game graphically on either system.
neilka
29/04/08 @ 10:13
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HMV are charging 4499p.
JDub
29/04/08 @ 10:14
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To settle this, R* should do a special XBL/PSN MP hookup weekend. The end.
monkie_king
29/04/08 @ 10:20
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Think they should have gone for more of a stylised look really, maybe not gone so far as Crackdown, but cranked up that paint filter a bit more, maybe.
Xerx3s
29/04/08 @ 10:21
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"Good God, duck and cover time..."

Just like with a nuke, that won't do you any good. It's better to set up a chair and enjoy the fireworks.
chrisjm
29/04/08 @ 10:21
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R* will be too busy swimming in £50 notes and snorting gold dust to care
Xerx3s
29/04/08 @ 10:22
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"To settle this, R* should do a special XBL/PSN MP hooker weekend. The end."

fixed.
ccfb
29/04/08 @ 10:25
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Utter non news. This kind of crap should stay in forums.
blender
29/04/08 @ 10:34
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so if i smear my camera with vasiline it is superior
Jheronimus
29/04/08 @ 10:34
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@ Xerx3s

What are the prices on the +4 baseball bats of fanbo1ism?
seasidebaz
29/04/08 @ 10:35
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hmmmm i await my 90p discount then.

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