US PS3 shipments hit 1m mark

By Games Industry.biz Published 8 January, 2007

Sony counters rumours.

Sony Computer Entertainment America has announced that 1 million PS3 units were shipped across North America in the six weeks following launch - breaking the record previously set by PlayStation 2.

SCEA did not reveal the number of units sold through to consumers, but countered rumours that there is a surplus of stock in some areas by observing that "PS3 has been selling out at retail outlets across North America" since the console's November 17 launch.

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  • spaceman #1 5 years ago

    half of those are on ebay i bet
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 10:49

  • ZuluHero #2 5 years ago

    easily...

  • mrbandersnatch #3 5 years ago

    I think ebay has finished as a major reserve of PS3s. Retailers are a different matter though andIve seen several stories of retailers failing to shift their allocation.

    Having PS3s in stock? GREAT!
    Having PS3s in stock and being unable to sell them with only 1M sold? OUCH!!!!

  • SeesThroughAll #4 5 years ago

    Keep the consoles stocked, in 6 months the price will HAVE to drop.

  • gypsumfantastic #5 5 years ago

    This is, of course, /shipped/ not sold. From what we hear, a significant proportion of these £500 waffle irons are sitting unsold and unloved in stockrooms in the US and Japan.

    Sony have a long and ignoble history of trying to blur this shipped/sold distinction, the filthy, lying fucks they are.

    Kotaku, being imbeciles, have fallen for it. Fortunately, EG seem a bit smarter.

  • johnboy_johsnon #6 5 years ago

    The prices have dropped on eBay considerably. Obviously this is due to the fact that they are now available to purchase in store.

  • The-Bodybuilder #7 5 years ago

    >""PS3 has been selling out at retail outlets across North America" since the console's November 17 launch."

    That's a lie, as loads of images on the web counter that.
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 10:59

  • trevd72 #8 5 years ago

    well i just went to bestbuy.com and i could buy one which will be delivered in one day. you can't so that with a Wii. So i guess that proves something.

    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 11:04

  • Blerk #9 5 years ago

    Oh dear. I'm not looking forward to this thread!

  • Genji #10 5 years ago

    I am!

    /rubs hands

  • Gurgeh #11 5 years ago

    ">""PS3 has been selling out at retail outlets across North America" since the console's November 17 launch."

    That's a lie, as loads of images on the web counter that. "

    It's not strictly a lie as I bet is has sold out at *some* retail outlets - he never said it had sold out at *all* retail outlets, or even most retail outlets.

    In a way this may help Sony in the short term given the shortage of blue diodes, the loss they are making per PS3 sold, and the financial edge Sony as a whole is walking.

  • Steroyd #12 5 years ago

    This is, of course, /shipped/ not sold.

    Gee i wonder how you figured that out.

    Sony Computer Entertainment America has announced that 1 million PS3 units were shipped across North America

    Yep Sony sure tried to fool me.

  • Totoriko #13 5 years ago

    There were plenty in BestBuy and Futureshop last week. People don't seem interested in buying them. There's no Wii consoles in stock everywhere I've looked.

  • Steroyd #14 5 years ago

    the loss they are making per PS3 sold, and the financial edge Sony as a whole is walking.

    Apparently Sony was number 1 in HDTV sales...

  • trevd72 #15 5 years ago

    sony are not happy with the HDTV market either cos not every manufacturer is playing ball and the prices are dropping too quick. its sucks to be sony at the moment i guess, the pressure must be huge.

    they are kicking off again about the second hand market for games sayings its as bad as piracy....desperate times ahead me thinks.

  • chupachups #16 5 years ago

    Something's wrong here:

    -Sony says they shipped 1 million in the last six weeks of 2006

    -Sony says they sold out everywhere

    -Sony refuses to say how many they sold, as opposed to shipped

    Why would they refuse to give out sales if they know they sold out?

    In any case, this is all irrelevant because launch sales mean nothing. The GameCube beat the PS2 in terms of launch sales (in the UK anyway), but that didn't mean anything in the long term.

  • Gurgeh #17 5 years ago

    Here's a timeline of Sony's presentation at CES. Note the heavy emphasis on HD-everything, and the almost total lack of news about the PS3:

    [link url=http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/010707_sony_ces _07_live.x
    ]http://ww w.shacknews.com/docs/press/0107...[/link]

  • Psychotext #18 5 years ago

    Ooh, congratulations Sony. So you had to revise your shipping figures three times and needed delays, not launching in Europe and missing your target in Japan to do this but yeah... umm... congratulations.

  • peteb #19 5 years ago

    i hear at CES the sixaxis won an "innovation award" or something...

    im not saying anything.





    oh ok,maybe just...huh?

  • chupachups #20 5 years ago

    "i hear at CES the sixaxis won an "innovation award" or something... "

    Yeah, I didn't understand that at all!

    -Its design isn't new, it's over 10 years old.

    -It has no rumble pack, unlike its rivals' and predecessors' controllers.

    -It only added the tilt sensor at the last minute so no games have supported it properly so far, it's still just a novelty for developers.

    It's not a bad controller, but it's not what I'd call innovative either.

    And surely, surely, if any controller can be called innovative it's the one that comes with a certain console that begins with W?

  • Fubdub #21 5 years ago

    if I remember correctly it was nominated alongside the wiimote but didn't win.

  • TakeTheVeil #22 5 years ago

    yeah this is such bull... remember in south park when Cartman opened up an amusement park and said no one could come.. then it became the most popular place to be.. as soon as you say someone cant have something cus its sold out.. you make people want it...

    alliwantforeasterisaPS3

  • chupachups #23 5 years ago

    "if I remember correctly it was nominated alongside the wiimote but didn't win."

    What kind of twisted thought process could make them decide the PS3 controller was more innovative than the Wii one?

    I could understand someone preferring the PS3 as a controller in general, that's a matter of taste, but how can anyone (even Sony fans) think the PS3 controller is most innovative? Everything it does has been done before by its rivals, and its design has been done before on every PlayStation ever released.
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 12:36

  • peteb #24 5 years ago

    actually, i read here

    [link url=http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22052
    ]    http://ww w.gamesindustry.biz/content_pag...[/link]

    that the sixaxis did in fact win. and that also...

    Sony's PlayStation 3 has also picked up the CES Best of Innovations Award for 2007, PC World's 20 Most Innovative Products Award, Sound and Vision's Editor's Choice Award and a Digital Innovation Award from the Digital Entertainment Group.

    i really am trying to look at this objectively, but what, exactly, has the ps3 done for innovation?
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 12:49

  • Steroyd #25 5 years ago

    Well chupachups, adding the motion sensor was a touch of class, but what i think did it was the innovative way they took out rumble, and added to trigger type buttons in the R2 and L2.

    The design well... it may look like Snes pad with 4 extra buttons and two of which are cleverly disguised as analogue sticks but overall it hasn't been done before not even the DualShock 2.

    The absolutely innovative way the pad can be detected and simulate where it is in 3D space just oozes innovation, the wiimote needs that crappy sensor bar that isn't innovative at all been there done that *yawn*.

    On a serious note, agree unless they pull both pads apart and look at how it works on the inside maybe, that's the only way i can think of Sony nicking the "innovation" award.

    ***edit***

    WTF!?! unless they looked at games like Motorstorm and though "wow how innovative" unless the Nintendo Wii isn't there.

    What next PSN most original Online network?
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 12:51

  • peteb #26 5 years ago

    perhaps their "innovative use of the truth" was a contributing factor....

  • chupachups #27 5 years ago

    "The absolutely innovative way the pad can be detected and simulate where it is in 3D space just oozes innovation, the wiimote needs that crappy sensor bar that isn't innovative at all been there done that"

    That's because the PS3 pad can't be detected in 3D, it only has tilt. It's a bit like saying a PS2 doesn't need an HDTV because it can't produce a HD picture. :)


    "On a serious note, agree unless they pull both pads apart and look at how it works on the inside maybe, that's the only way i can think of Sony nicking the "innovation" award."

    Even if you look at the raw hardware, there's nothing innovative at all about the PS3 controller compared to the Wii controller. The PS3 has tilt, but so does the Wii, and the Wii has motion sensing on top of that.

    I honestly can't see any rational reason whatsoever for choosing the PS3 controller in this award, so the only explanation is that the award jury were swayed more by corporate hospitality (especially the kind that has presidents or queens printed on it) than actual technology.
    Edited by 4 at 08/01/07 @ 12:57

  • Stormflood #28 5 years ago

    Sony predicted 1 to 1.2m shipped. EA said BS, it'll be more like 500,000 to an unlikely 800,000 shipped.

    Everyone listened to EA, not Sony.

    Now everyone is upset Sony pulled it off.

    Bless.

    http://ww w.engadget.com/2006/11/04/ea-pr...
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 12:57

  • Steroyd #29 5 years ago

    The SixaxiS doesn't just have tilt, it can pretend to simulate itself in 3D space as last years E3 showed, but surely that doesn't hold much compared to the Wii mote that CAN detect itself in 3D space.

    Maybe the wii lost points because it needed an external peripheral in order to do what it does.

  • Psychotext #30 5 years ago

    Stormflood: To do this Sony ended up only shipping 450k - 500k to Japan rather than their estimation of a million (Same as US). So EA's numbers look pretty damn accurate to me all things considered.

  • Steroyd #31 5 years ago

    erm.. Stormflood that was back in November... the 4th....when they announced the shipment cut....

  • JediMasterMalik #32 5 years ago

    Psychotext - anything negative towards Sony looks pretty damn accurate to you.

    About the article - good for Sony, and good for us. I hope they can bring a decent number of units to the UK, and hopefully have a price drop sometime this year. As for the awards, the sixaxis didn't deserver the innovation award tbh, unless they can justify it. Especially against the Wiimote. Unless they meant in the whole battery issue. Standard Batteries FTUL.

  • Psychotext #33 5 years ago

    JediMasterMalik: Tell me I'm wrong though - because it seems like a pretty fair analysis to me. Sure, I'm really critical but then I'm still really pissed off at them for delaying Europe and we both know that's the only way they could ship those kind of numbers to the US.
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 13:32

  • Steroyd #34 5 years ago

    Psychotext explain MS's situation in Japan?

    Selling something like 50,000 in Japan in 2006 is almost like selling 0 units in Europe right now.

    I say because of MS's poor sales in Japan helped them concentrate more on Europe and the US in parrallel to what Sony is doing right now in concentrating on Japan and the US.
    If only Sony sold as poorly in one region they'd probably pull off a wordlwide launch to.

  • Psychotext #35 5 years ago

    Steroyd: Not defending MS. What's the point? Hell, I didn't even mention them. =)

    Here's the simple facts though (shipped from launch = November / December on launch year):

    Microsoft 360 - Shipped from launch: 1.5 million.
    Sony PS3 - Shipped from launch: 1.5 million.
    Nintendo Wii - Shipped from launch: 4 million.

    MS missed their targets and tanked in Japan (As expected).
    Sony missed half of their REVISED targets.
    Nintendo hit their targets (which has actually surprised me).
    Edited by 4 at 08/01/07 @ 13:52

  • mkreku #36 5 years ago

    Uhm.. How about letting the European importers get a hold of those thousands of UNSOLD Playstation 3's now then, Sony? Or is it better to let the machines stand and rot on store shelves in USA and Japan than letting the Europeans get their greasy hands on them?

    Yeah, I bet it is. Anything, even unsold consoles just standing around, is better than letting Europeans have the bloody thing early. The second rate citizens shall not have any Playstation 3's until March, because Sony said so.

  • trevd72 #37 5 years ago

    i hope sony wait a few years for their first significant price drop and suffer for arrogance. they waited years to get the ps2 under 200 and it was 275 for an age but sub 300 is OK. if its 500 thats psychologically very high. thats half a grand

  • MadMirko #38 5 years ago

    Standard Batteries FTUL

    Huh? Standard = cheap, reliable, user servicable. Which is good, in my book. If you meant using non-rechargeable batteries FTUL, I agree, though. :)

  • TonyCocaCola #39 5 years ago

    Sony shipped 1 million? Well done guys...,
    Meanwhile in the real world: [link url=http://www.nexgenwars.com< /a>
    ]    http://www.nexgenwars.com< /a>
    [/link]

  • Steroyd #40 5 years ago

    Your adding what Sony shipped to retail in America added ontop of what they sold to consumers in Japan.

    For all you know Sony could have shipped 600K units to japan before years end.

    Plus the argument "because Sony hasn't launched in Europe" is void because of MS shipped 160K units to Japan and only sold out last November giving them plenty of stock to re-direct to Europe and the US.

  • SpacemanX #41 5 years ago

    No, in the real world:

    [link url=http://vgcharts.org/
    ]http://vgcharts.org/
    [/link]

    Nexgenwars is totally unreliable.

  • Steroyd #42 5 years ago

    And VG charts is...?

    They're both BS to me NPD is where it really matters in terms of sales.

  • Psychotext #43 5 years ago

    http://www.vgch arts.org/japweekly.php

    We have Sony's numbers up until the end of 2006 now. Unless you're suggesting that there's 550k sat on store shelves in Japan?

    (VGCharts numbers for Japan are correct and you can cross check them against the released sales figures in plenty of other places)

    Oh, and why do you keep mentioning Microsoft? Are we not allowed to discuss Sony's figures on their own merit?

    [Edits to fix formatting and link]
    Edited by 3 at 08/01/07 @ 14:25

  • penhalion #44 5 years ago

    eh!

    No way have they shipped 1 millon stateside. This is bordering on a blatant lie. I fully suspect that after the CES show the numbers will be heavily revised.

    The machine is selling slowly in Japan of all places.

    As for sony winning innovation awards for the sixaxis. This has to be serious corruption. Who made the vote and has anyone tried to interview these people to find out what the heck they were smoking.

  • Steroyd #45 5 years ago

    Unless you're suggesting that there's 550k sat on store shelves in Japan?

    No i'm suggesting we don't know how many Sony have shipped in japan in total unless your suggesting the PS3 is sold out everywhere in Japan?

    I'm an NPD guy anyway's there was an uproar of which was more accurate VGcharts or Next Gen Wars and I don't want to be bothered with it so call Bull on both of them.

  • Psychotext #46 5 years ago

    Something else odd about this. Why did Sony only ship about 500k of their 1.5 million world allocation to Japan? The PS2 launched with 900k in Japan compared to 500k in the US.

    (Appreciate that 500k PS3 shipments may not be accurate but it has to be within at least 20% of their sales figures or something is going horribly wrong for them.)
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 14:49

  • Steroyd #47 5 years ago

    Because America is their bigger market.
    Europe is to... but not as big as AMERICA centre of the universe.

    It's the same as the PS2, it didn't take long for American hardware sales to overtake Japan.

    I'm taking into consideration that Sony ramped up their production 3 months before MS sorted out the logistics of their manufacturing, take this into account with selling half of what MS did initially and Sony's numbers are impressive to the point that they could ship 6 million before the end of March effectively cutting MS's lead by half (which took 15 months to gain) in as little as 5 months.

    please note i am comparing shipment fgures not sales figures, which March's lineup should take care of those "dwindling" PS3 sales.
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 14:59

  • Garulon #48 5 years ago

    Anyone want to make a guess at March 2007 installed base?

    I'm thinking:
    13m XBox 360
    6m Wii
    3m Playstation 3

  • JediMasterMalik #49 5 years ago

    penhalion - are you serious(about the first part)? You think they haven't shipped 1 mil to the US alone? What gives you any doubt about this? I thought the article was pretty clear.

  • Eighthours #50 5 years ago

    I'm laughing at the intimation that the machine continues to sell out, when we have clear evidence to the contrary!

  • Garulon #51 5 years ago

    Nintendo brought a knife to a gun fight
    Sony brought a banana

  • penhalion #52 5 years ago

    @JediMasterMalik

    First off we are well aware of your affiliation to sony but, if they only managed to ship some 200k units by christmas, then this implies they sat on 800k units during late december until now.

    There were rumours that some shops were stockpiling then but, again this is unlikely. I think it is more along the lines of they have manufactured 1million and these are allocated to N. America.

    I don't think they sold nearly that many and we know the many photos of piles of PS3 are not faked. There are too many things about this that just don't add up no matter how much YOU want them to.

  • AcidSnake #53 5 years ago

    lol @ garulon

    Bur remember that Nintendo is not even really going to the fight, they're targeting innocent onlookers...

  • tiddles #54 5 years ago

    Can someone point me to "clear evidence" that PS3 is failing to sell? All I've seen so far is people saying that there are PS3s available on shop shelves which aren't selling immediately... Granted, this is NOT the case for the Wii, but if that's your definition of failing you'd have to include the Xbox 360 in that too...

  • Garulon #55 5 years ago

    "All I've seen so far is people saying that there are PS3s available on shop shelves which aren't selling immediately... Granted, this is NOT the case for the Wii, but if that's your definition of failing you'd have to include the Xbox 360 in that too..."

    Well in the PS3's case that'll be Sony honouring the pre-order allocation to the shops. In the 360's case it'll be re-orders cos they've ran out of units.

  • Psychotext #56 5 years ago

    tiddles: Probably should step out of this topic now as I've made my point but there's a big difference between not selling out after 14 months and not selling out after 2 months. As I said earlier in the thread - PS2 launched with 900k in Japan. PS3 has sold 450k there in 6 weeks and is sat on store shelves unbought.

    These things should be being snapped up like the Wii is (Which is shipping far more).

  • JediMasterMalik #57 5 years ago

    penhalion - You're talking out of your arse. I have no "affiliation" to Sony. And they had ALOT more then 200k by Christmas. They made regular, weekly shipments, after launch. Which was November 17th in case you can't remember. Christmas is December 25th. How many weeks is that?

    I think you need to buy a calendar. Then add things up, they make perfect sense.

  • tiddles #58 5 years ago

    These things should be being snapped up like the Wii is (Which is shipping far more).

    I suppose so... I do wonder if we've just come to equate success with being unavailable on or near launch, though - it seems you've failed now if you can put enough units on shelves to satisfy demand.

    Sure, everyone has a photo of PS3s stacked in a shop, but how long are they staying there? Most eye-witness reports I've seen say that PS3s are pretty easy to get hold of, but they still sell through each allocation within a few days...

  • penhalion #59 5 years ago

    Here is a quite from my PS3 owning Japanese friend

    "I got one at launch and have yet to find a game I like for it. There is no demand for one on EBay and Japan doesn't really have a returns policy on unwanted goods. I guess I'm stuck with it"

    He is currently enjoying Blue Dragon as one of the few 360 owners out there. He is loyale to sony as they are the home team so to speak but, he wouldn't tell anyone else to buy one.

  • penhalion #60 5 years ago

    @JediMastermalik

    We'll see next week what the real figures are. I suspect you'll do the usual disappearing act when you get proved wrong.

  • JediMasterMalik #61 5 years ago

    @Penhalion - Are you talking about sales figures? If you are, why are you?

  • Psychotext #62 5 years ago

    This chart speaks volumes for the 360 in Japan:
    [link url=http://www.google.com/trends?q=Wii% 2C+Xbox+360%2C+PS3&ctab=0&geo=JP&date=2006
    ]http://ww w.google.com/trends?q=Wii%2C+Xb...[/link]

  • JediMasterMalik #63 5 years ago

    You mean that red line is NOT the x axis?

  • Psychotext #64 5 years ago

    =)

  • Psychotext #65 5 years ago

    Just for fun.

    US
    [link url=http://www.google.com/trends?q=Wii% 2C+Xbox+360%2C+PS3&ctab=0&geo=US&date=2006
    ]http://ww w.google.com/trends?q=Wii%2C+Xb...[/link]

    UK
    [link url=http://www.google.com/trends?q=Wii% 2C+Xbox+360%2C+PS3&ctab=0&geo=GB&date=2006
    ]http://ww w.google.com/trends?q=Wii%2C+Xb...[/link]

    France
    [link url=http://www.google.com/trends?q=Wii% 2C+Xbox+360%2C+PS3&ctab=0&geo=FR&date=2006
    ]http://ww w.google.com/trends?q=Wii%2C+Xb...[/link]

    Germany
    [link url=http://www.google.com/trends?q=Wii% 2C+Xbox+360%2C+PS3&ctab=0&geo=DE&date=2006
    ]http://ww w.google.com/trends?q=Wii%2C+Xb...[/link]

    WII DOMINATES! =)
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 17:07

  • Vic #66 5 years ago

    I cant see what everyone is arguing about. Sony owns its own manufacturing plants, and has been able to ramp up production impressively. If there were no PS3's on the shelves, people would be moaning that Sony were not manufacturing enough units. If there are PS3's on the shelves and not selling out immediately, all of a sudden PS3 is a flop. Sony has been airlifting PS3's, hence the constant stream of stock reaching American stores.

    As someone pointed out on another forum, the facts remain:

    Sony has shipped more than MS did in NA last year.

    Also more than what PS1 and PS2 shipped.

    Despite double the price of its predecessors.

    Despite the weak launch lineup.

    Despite the two "hot" competitors which are priced much cheaper.

    Despite the production problems with the blue laser diodes.

  • FreddyBobs #67 5 years ago

    As of yesterday in coastal Georgia, a quick trip around a few stores reveals...

    Target - Plenty of PS3s in stock, no Wiis in stock
    GameStop - Plenty of PS3s in stock, now and before Christmas, no wiis in stock
    Sams Club - At least 11 PS3s in stock, no wiis in stock
    WalMart - No wiis or PS3s in stock

    Comments from store assistants ranged from - PS3s weren't shifting now or before Christmas, to the explanation that they are just too expensive. From GameStop that people were queing up outside of the store waiting for Wii shipments to come in.

    Of course this doesn't mean that this is happening broadly across the US, but I think you'll agree it suggests a trend in this area. Anyways if you want a PS3 - you can always come down south, supply here doesn't appear to be a problem.

    Edited by 2 at 08/01/07 @ 18:32

  • Vic #68 5 years ago

    Sony has also been stockpiling for the European launch, with rumours suggesting that they'll have as many as 2m units ready for it, which is very impressive.

  • dr_lha #69 5 years ago

    Same here in Pennsylvania, FreddyBobs. I was in Target yesterday and they had as many PS3s as could fit on their shelving unit (about 10). Wiis sold out. I asked the guy working in the games section and he told me that they were getting around 24 Wiis per week, and usually each shipment was gone within an hour of arriving, they weren't announcing when they were getting Wiis in stock any more so there were no queues, people usually turned up every day at opening to check if they got any in.

    In contrast he told me that the number of PS3s they have in stock "has only been going up" and "we've had a lot of returns on PS3s".

  • Psychotext #70 5 years ago

    Just for fun (look at the national availability on the left hand side):

    Zune availability:
    http://www. itrackr.com/details.aspx?pid=7

    PS3 availability:
    http://www. itrackr.com/details.aspx?pid=5

    O-o

    (You'll need to select a location and then click the URL again)
    Edited by 1 at 08/01/07 @ 19:05

  • Dizzy #71 5 years ago

    I think it is pretty clear that the PS3 is not selling until a game comes out that people want. Maybe next xmas.

  • smelly #72 5 years ago

    >Sony has shipped more than MS did in NA last year.

    Difference being.. MS sold out :-)

  • Les #73 5 years ago

    ">Sony has shipped more than MS did in NA last year.

    Difference being.. MS sold out :-)"

    Might be because at the time MS released their 360, some dumb people still got excited when hearing the words "next gen gaming"...

    Whichever way you look at it, the first batch of 360's and PS3's are aimed at the same group of people. I'd say you're an idiot if you shelled out for a 360 at launch. But you're an even bigger idiot if you also buy a PS3 at launch a year later. Apparently, that many idiots can't even be found in the US of A.

  • raven_blade2002 #74 5 years ago

    Its true this website is proof of the PS3's availability in the US.

    http://ww w.itrackr.com/default.aspx?clea...

    This site tracks availability of hot items across the US. Check the various regions and you will clearly see that the PS3 is widely available at many retailers across America. The Wii is on the other hand is pretty much sold out in most places.

  • NegativeZero #75 5 years ago

    On the shipped vs sold debate, to all the manufacturers, shipped = sold. They've sold them to retailers.

  • DrunKao #76 5 years ago

    Gurgeh - "It's not strictly a lie as I bet is has sold out at *some* retail outlets - he never said it had sold out at *all* retail outlets, or even most retail outlets."

    Wow, that sounds REALLY stupid. Noone does that.

  • Pulsar_t #77 5 years ago

    NegativeZero, you're ignoring the fact those manufacturers are also entertainment companies capitalising on software sold for their manufactured units. :p

  • davisorle #78 5 years ago

    ok... First of read Vics post and my answer to that is that even after of all these things admited means that most of those poelpe are just freakin Sony fanboys running after Sony's product.

    Second goes for the units... Does anyone remeber of Sony commenting on MS' worldwide release? Or the fact that Sony faild to do so? So the the f*** are you even talking abouyt here and comparing? Sony failed on it and MS did just fine with the fact they sold out. They DID manage to make the release worldwide. Correct me if Im wrong to anything so far.

    Plus the fact that the tittles that are also out for Xbox 360 look better on xbox than on PS3 that they had so much freakin time to make them look better and instead they look like crap with a perfect example of Fight Night 3 witch was released more than a year ago. Isn't that right?

    Its just funny that you are all argueing on how many idiots bought a PS3 with all the problems that Vic himself brought up. It's pathetic. Why would you even care anymore if Sony sold 1m or 800K units? Would it be the first time they made things up? NO!

    Let them release Millions of PS3 so they can play through BC, Crass... lol

  • smelly #79 5 years ago

    @davisorle : Well said that man!

    I can remember sony sniggering a msofts 360 launch too.. At least they didnt sit on the shelves :-)

    This has all the makings of psp...

  • Gurgeh #80 5 years ago

    More evidence:

    [link url=http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070108-8574.html
    ]    http://ar stechnica.com/news.ars/post/200...[/link]

    "The results are unambiguous: the PlayStation 3 is in stock, almost everywhere. In Cincinnati, there were PS3s at multiple Wal-Marts, GameStops, and Circuit City stores. The numbers went from only one system at the first Wal-Mart store to 15 at the second; everyone else seemed to have under ten units, mixed between the 20GB and 60GB models. If you want to buy a PS3, it's simply a matter of going to the right store or ordering from Best Buy or Circuit City online, both of which have them in stock, ready to ship. The same can be said for the Xbox 360, which is also available everywhere we checked. The Wii, on the other hand, has been sold out everywhere, with vague rumors of another shipment in the next few days.

    One retailer spoke to me on condition of anonymity, and broke down his version of the situation. "It's not that we've gotten more PS3s than Wiis, it's just that no one wants them. We've seen a few returned. We have four in the store right now," he said. He also told of people coming in with multiple systems and no receipts, looking for cash back after their eBay listings failed to gather attention. "If you told me that I would have PS3s to sell and that I won't be able to get enough Wiis back in October, I would have laughed at you," he went on. He also detailed a memo from a regional vice president telling managers to put up a hand-written note telling customers that the PS3 is in stock. "

  • bunnymc #81 5 years ago

    I really like The SixaxiS , i hope they keep the same design on PS4 and who gives a fuck about rumble i never liked it anyway!!!!