US PS3 shipments hit 1m mark News

half of those are on ebay i bet

easily...

I think ebay has finished as a major reserve of PS3s. Retailers are a different matter though andIve seen several stories of retailers failing to shift their allocation.

Having PS3s in stock? GREAT!
Having PS3s in stock and being unable to sell them with only 1M sold? OUCH!!!!

Keep the consoles stocked, in 6 months the price will HAVE to drop.

This is, of course, /shipped/ not sold. From what we hear, a significant proportion of these £500 waffle irons are sitting unsold and unloved in stockrooms in the US and Japan.

Sony have a long and ignoble history of trying to blur this shipped/sold distinction, the filthy, lying fucks they are.

Kotaku, being imbeciles, have fallen for it. Fortunately, EG seem a bit smarter.

The prices have dropped on eBay considerably. Obviously this is due to the fact that they are now available to purchase in store.

>""PS3 has been selling out at retail outlets across North America" since the console's November 17 launch."

That's a lie, as loads of images on the web counter that.

well i just went to bestbuy.com and i could buy one which will be delivered in one day. you can't so that with a Wii. So i guess that proves something.

Oh dear. I'm not looking forward to this thread!

I am!

/rubs hands

">""PS3 has been selling out at retail outlets across North America" since the console's November 17 launch."

That's a lie, as loads of images on the web counter that. "

It's not strictly a lie as I bet is has sold out at *some* retail outlets - he never said it had sold out at *all* retail outlets, or even most retail outlets.

In a way this may help Sony in the short term given the shortage of blue diodes, the loss they are making per PS3 sold, and the financial edge Sony as a whole is walking.

This is, of course, /shipped/ not sold.

Gee i wonder how you figured that out.

Sony Computer Entertainment America has announced that 1 million PS3 units were shipped across North America

Yep Sony sure tried to fool me.

There were plenty in BestBuy and Futureshop last week. People don't seem interested in buying them. There's no Wii consoles in stock everywhere I've looked.

the loss they are making per PS3 sold, and the financial edge Sony as a whole is walking.

Apparently Sony was number 1 in HDTV sales...

sony are not happy with the HDTV market either cos not every manufacturer is playing ball and the prices are dropping too quick. its sucks to be sony at the moment i guess, the pressure must be huge.

they are kicking off again about the second hand market for games sayings its as bad as piracy....desperate times ahead me thinks.

Something's wrong here:

-Sony says they shipped 1 million in the last six weeks of 2006

-Sony says they sold out everywhere

-Sony refuses to say how many they sold, as opposed to shipped

Why would they refuse to give out sales if they know they sold out?

In any case, this is all irrelevant because launch sales mean nothing. The GameCube beat the PS2 in terms of launch sales (in the UK anyway), but that didn't mean anything in the long term.

Here's a timeline of Sony's presentation at CES. Note the heavy emphasis on HD-everything, and the almost total lack of news about the PS3:

http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/0107...

Ooh, congratulations Sony. So you had to revise your shipping figures three times and needed delays, not launching in Europe and missing your target in Japan to do this but yeah... umm... congratulations.

i hear at CES the sixaxis won an "innovation award" or something...

im not saying anything.





oh ok,maybe just...huh?

"i hear at CES the sixaxis won an "innovation award" or something... "

Yeah, I didn't understand that at all!

-Its design isn't new, it's over 10 years old.

-It has no rumble pack, unlike its rivals' and predecessors' controllers.

-It only added the tilt sensor at the last minute so no games have supported it properly so far, it's still just a novelty for developers.

It's not a bad controller, but it's not what I'd call innovative either.

And surely, surely, if any controller can be called innovative it's the one that comes with a certain console that begins with W?

if I remember correctly it was nominated alongside the wiimote but didn't win.

yeah this is such bull... remember in south park when Cartman opened up an amusement park and said no one could come.. then it became the most popular place to be.. as soon as you say someone cant have something cus its sold out.. you make people want it...

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"if I remember correctly it was nominated alongside the wiimote but didn't win."

What kind of twisted thought process could make them decide the PS3 controller was more innovative than the Wii one?

I could understand someone preferring the PS3 as a controller in general, that's a matter of taste, but how can anyone (even Sony fans) think the PS3 controller is most innovative? Everything it does has been done before by its rivals, and its design has been done before on every PlayStation ever released.

actually, i read here

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_pag...

that the sixaxis did in fact win. and that also...

Sony's PlayStation 3 has also picked up the CES Best of Innovations Award for 2007, PC World's 20 Most Innovative Products Award, Sound and Vision's Editor's Choice Award and a Digital Innovation Award from the Digital Entertainment Group.

i really am trying to look at this objectively, but what, exactly, has the ps3 done for innovation?

Well chupachups, adding the motion sensor was a touch of class, but what i think did it was the innovative way they took out rumble, and added to trigger type buttons in the R2 and L2.

The design well... it may look like Snes pad with 4 extra buttons and two of which are cleverly disguised as analogue sticks but overall it hasn't been done before not even the DualShock 2.

The absolutely innovative way the pad can be detected and simulate where it is in 3D space just oozes innovation, the wiimote needs that crappy sensor bar that isn't innovative at all been there done that *yawn*.

On a serious note, agree unless they pull both pads apart and look at how it works on the inside maybe, that's the only way i can think of Sony nicking the "innovation" award.

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WTF!?! unless they looked at games like Motorstorm and though "wow how innovative" unless the Nintendo Wii isn't there.

What next PSN most original Online network?

perhaps their "innovative use of the truth" was a contributing factor....

"The absolutely innovative way the pad can be detected and simulate where it is in 3D space just oozes innovation, the wiimote needs that crappy sensor bar that isn't innovative at all been there done that"

That's because the PS3 pad can't be detected in 3D, it only has tilt. It's a bit like saying a PS2 doesn't need an HDTV because it can't produce a HD picture. :)


"On a serious note, agree unless they pull both pads apart and look at how it works on the inside maybe, that's the only way i can think of Sony nicking the "innovation" award."

Even if you look at the raw hardware, there's nothing innovative at all about the PS3 controller compared to the Wii controller. The PS3 has tilt, but so does the Wii, and the Wii has motion sensing on top of that.

I honestly can't see any rational reason whatsoever for choosing the PS3 controller in this award, so the only explanation is that the award jury were swayed more by corporate hospitality (especially the kind that has presidents or queens printed on it) than actual technology.

Sony predicted 1 to 1.2m shipped. EA said BS, it'll be more like 500,000 to an unlikely 800,000 shipped.

Everyone listened to EA, not Sony.

Now everyone is upset Sony pulled it off.

Bless.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/04/ea-pr...

The SixaxiS doesn't just have tilt, it can pretend to simulate itself in 3D space as last years E3 showed, but surely that doesn't hold much compared to the Wii mote that CAN detect itself in 3D space.

Maybe the wii lost points because it needed an external peripheral in order to do what it does.

Stormflood: To do this Sony ended up only shipping 450k - 500k to Japan rather than their estimation of a million (Same as US). So EA's numbers look pretty damn accurate to me all things considered.

erm.. Stormflood that was back in November... the 4th....when they announced the shipment cut....

Psychotext - anything negative towards Sony looks pretty damn accurate to you.

About the article - good for Sony, and good for us. I hope they can bring a decent number of units to the UK, and hopefully have a price drop sometime this year. As for the awards, the sixaxis didn't deserver the innovation award tbh, unless they can justify it. Especially against the Wiimote. Unless they meant in the whole battery issue. Standard Batteries FTUL.

JediMasterMalik: Tell me I'm wrong though - because it seems like a pretty fair analysis to me. Sure, I'm really critical but then I'm still really pissed off at them for delaying Europe and we both know that's the only way they could ship those kind of numbers to the US.

Psychotext explain MS's situation in Japan?

Selling something like 50,000 in Japan in 2006 is almost like selling 0 units in Europe right now.

I say because of MS's poor sales in Japan helped them concentrate more on Europe and the US in parrallel to what Sony is doing right now in concentrating on Japan and the US.
If only Sony sold as poorly in one region they'd probably pull off a wordlwide launch to.

Steroyd: Not defending MS. What's the point? Hell, I didn't even mention them. =)

Here's the simple facts though (shipped from launch = November / December on launch year):

Microsoft 360 - Shipped from launch: 1.5 million.
Sony PS3 - Shipped from launch: 1.5 million.
Nintendo Wii - Shipped from launch: 4 million.

MS missed their targets and tanked in Japan (As expected).
Sony missed half of their REVISED targets.
Nintendo hit their targets (which has actually surprised me).

Uhm.. How about letting the European importers get a hold of those thousands of UNSOLD Playstation 3's now then, Sony? Or is it better to let the machines stand and rot on store shelves in USA and Japan than letting the Europeans get their greasy hands on them?

Yeah, I bet it is. Anything, even unsold consoles just standing around, is better than letting Europeans have the bloody thing early. The second rate citizens shall not have any Playstation 3's until March, because Sony said so.

Psychotext: The revised target was 2 million but yes they missed it.

Nintendo though. Way to go, that machine is gonna sell and sell if they keep on releasing the Wii Sports games and other games of the same caliber.

i hope sony wait a few years for their first significant price drop and suffer for arrogance. they waited years to get the ps2 under 200 and it was 275 for an age but sub 300 is OK. if its 500 thats psychologically very high. thats half a grand

Standard Batteries FTUL

Huh? Standard = cheap, reliable, user servicable. Which is good, in my book. If you meant using non-rechargeable batteries FTUL, I agree, though. :)

Sony shipped 1 million? Well done guys...,
Meanwhile in the real world: http://www.nexgenwars.com

Your adding what Sony shipped to retail in America added ontop of what they sold to consumers in Japan.

For all you know Sony could have shipped 600K units to japan before years end.

Plus the argument "because Sony hasn't launched in Europe" is void because of MS shipped 160K units to Japan and only sold out last November giving them plenty of stock to re-direct to Europe and the US.

No, in the real world:

http://vgcharts.org/

Nexgenwars is totally unreliable.

And VG charts is...?

They're both BS to me NPD is where it really matters in terms of sales.

http://www.vgcharts.org/japweekly.php

We have Sony's numbers up until the end of 2006 now. Unless you're suggesting that there's 550k sat on store shelves in Japan?

(VGCharts numbers for Japan are correct and you can cross check them against the released sales figures in plenty of other places)

Oh, and why do you keep mentioning Microsoft? Are we not allowed to discuss Sony's figures on their own merit?

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eh!

No way have they shipped 1 millon stateside. This is bordering on a blatant lie. I fully suspect that after the CES show the numbers will be heavily revised.

The machine is selling slowly in Japan of all places.

As for sony winning innovation awards for the sixaxis. This has to be serious corruption. Who made the vote and has anyone tried to interview these people to find out what the heck they were smoking.

Unless you're suggesting that there's 550k sat on store shelves in Japan?

No i'm suggesting we don't know how many Sony have shipped in japan in total unless your suggesting the PS3 is sold out everywhere in Japan?

I'm an NPD guy anyway's there was an uproar of which was more accurate VGcharts or Next Gen Wars and I don't want to be bothered with it so call Bull on both of them.

Something else odd about this. Why did Sony only ship about 500k of their 1.5 million world allocation to Japan? The PS2 launched with 900k in Japan compared to 500k in the US.

(Appreciate that 500k PS3 shipments may not be accurate but it has to be within at least 20% of their sales figures or something is going horribly wrong for them.)

Because America is their bigger market.
Europe is to... but not as big as AMERICA centre of the universe.

It's the same as the PS2, it didn't take long for American hardware sales to overtake Japan.

I'm taking into consideration that Sony ramped up their production 3 months before MS sorted out the logistics of their manufacturing, take this into account with selling half of what MS did initially and Sony's numbers are impressive to the point that they could ship 6 million before the end of March effectively cutting MS's lead by half (which took 15 months to gain) in as little as 5 months.

please note i am comparing shipment fgures not sales figures, which March's lineup should take care of those "dwindling" PS3 sales.

Anyone want to make a guess at March 2007 installed base?

I'm thinking:
13m XBox 360
6m Wii
3m Playstation 3

penhalion - are you serious(about the first part)? You think they haven't shipped 1 mil to the US alone? What gives you any doubt about this? I thought the article was pretty clear.