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- New Xbox 360 in the US this week, July in Europe
- New Xbox 360 hands-on
- Digital Foundry: New Xbox 360 tech breakdown
- New Xbox 360 detailed on video
- New slim Xbox 360 photograph gallery
- New Halo: Reach trailer shows space combat
- Kinect launches in the US on 4th November
- GameStop gives Kinect $149.99 price tag / Greenberg: Kinect pricing "purely speculative"
- Hands-on with Kinect launch titles
- Microsoft shows Kinect Hub and Video Kinect
- Microsoft lists third-party Kinect titles
- Kinect needs separate plug on old 360s
- Forza Motorsport for Kinect in 2011
- Microsoft does Star Wars Kinect deal
- Call of Duty DLC will be first on 360 through 2012
- Crytek doing exclusive Xbox 360 game
- Fable III gets release date
All that, of course, came from a mixture of leaks and Microsoft's "Project Natal Experience" event last night, exclusively focused on what we now called Kinect. The real meat of Microsoft's announcements - presumably including Kinect pricing and hardcore game revelations - comes today at 10am PST / 6pm BST.
We'll be there, as usual. Eurogamer's Ellie Gibson will be reporting live from within the Wiltern Theatre in Los Angeles and we'll be posting all the news, screenshots, videos and other treats we can uncover throughout and into the evening.
All this and E3 itself doesn't even start until tomorrow. Amazing scenes. Stick with this page for our live Microsoft coverage, which begins below!
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We're on our way to the conference... Not long now!
Still outside, no one let in yet. Peter Molyneux just came over and we had a nice chat. It looks like the conference itself is going to kick off at 10.30am PST / 6.30pm BST after half an hour of "pre-show". Or, from our perspective, queuing.
"Twitterverse, in a little over half an hour, you will begin to know what we know. Prepare." Stephen Toulouse writing on Twitter. We'll prepare by queuing some more.
Speaking of Twitter, someone going by @taswell has actually photographed us mid-chat with Molyneux. Weird.
Right, after just a few hours of waiting in baking hot sunshine on a blindingly white sparkly carpet - we're in!
The venue for this year's Microsoft conference is a bit different - it's a proper old theatre with ornate goldy bits all over the walls and ceiling. It's also a bit smaller than usual, which helps to explain why they've warned people the conference was over-subscribed.
Spotted so far, as discussed in our own pre-show: Peter Molyneux! Wandering outside and talking on his phone. He asked us what we thought of last night's event. We were honest.
Also spotted: Aaron Greenberg and Mark Rein. Mark's not in the VIP section this year, but in the pit with the rest of us. Keepin' it real.
Just texted Mark Rein asking him to tell us a pre-conference secret, as he has done in previous years. He doesn't seem to have noticed though. Come on Mark Rein! Check your phone!
As you'd expect, the theatre is all lit up in shades of green. There are living room-style set-ups on stage. Does this mean we are going to see business executives playing videogames and making tits of themselves? Let's hope so - E3 just wouldn't be E3 otherwise.
Mark Rein has texted back. He's not spilling. Oh well, thanks anyway Mark Rein. You may live to regret that decision when Gears of War 3 gets 4/10.
Can't picture what the Microsoft E3 conference stage looks like? Imagine the inside of the Tardis crossed with a DFS showroom.
Oli's just sorting out some photos. What do you think of the Microsoft conference so far, Oli? "It's really green." [This is breathtaking stuff guys. -Ed]
Molyneux told us he wasn't nervous earlier - he's confident that what he's got to show is the futhamucking shizzle dizzle, although he may not have used those exact terms. As long as he's got Fable III though, innit.
According to Pierre Molynoire, as he is known in France, today's conference goes "hand in hand" with the Cirque de Soleil event at the Galen Center last night. Is he subtly hinting that Don Mattrick is going to come out dressed as a crusty fairy?
Mark Rein texted back again! Apparently he has something to show us later in the week. "Is it Gears of War 4?" I replied. I am sure a response is just moments away.
Unfortunately the VIP area is upstairs and hidden from view, so we can't see if there are any big names here. GamesIndustry.biz's Matt Martin has suggested I make some up. Great to see Ben Fogle in the house. And hey, there's Lee from 5ive!
Actual non-fictional spotted: Hideo Kojima and Suda51, sitting next to each other in the VIP area.
"The briefing will begin in five minutes," says the PA lady.
I heard earlier that Sony Europe boss Andrew House, big fish little fish cardboard box, was at the Cirque de Soleil Xbox 360 event last night. Nice of them to let him in. Or was he in disguise? Would have been easy with all those white space ponchos they made everyone wear.
Matt Martin had breakfast with the artist formerly known as Sony's David Reeves this morning (now at Capcom, of course). He was also at the briefing last night. He said he didn't find the space poncho "very comfortable".
Oli has some kind of verbal tick which means he keeps referring to the new name of Project Natal as Kinetic. Better than referring to it as EyeToy. [Ooh, burn. - Ed]
David Braben has just twittered that something of his is being shown today. Is it a new haircut, Dave?
"The briefing is about to begin." Bring out Don Mattress!
The music just got a bit louder and more pumpy. Something must be about to happen, surely. Oh! It's all going dark!
A trailer! Explosions. It's for Call of Duty: Black Ops (out November 9th). "Just because they write it down and call it history, doesn't make it the truth." Men jumping out of helicopters, blowing up jungles, abseiling down mountains etc.
Stealth bombers, slow-mo, more helicopters, bigger explosions. 11.9.10. So in America, that's 9th November, right? Mark Lamia, head of Treyarch, is on the stage.
On the big screen we're seeing the game in action. We're creeping down an earthen tunnel, past a chopped up dead body. Nice.
There's a bloke in front of us leading the way. It's all very claustrophobic. An enemy comes out and batters our mate before there's time to react. Back down the tunnel alone, then.
"In the interest of time..." appears on the screen. Odd. Cut to a jungle clearing. Helicopter!
Looks like we're invading the enemy's jungle camp. Hiding behind some trees. It all looks beautifully detailed, very lush and realistic.
Now we're moving in, shooting all the troops in the clearing. We take a hit and the screen is fully spattered with blood for a few seconds.
Into the helicopter! Has it got cameras? Anyway, looks like we're going to fly it.
And we're off. Flying up through the trees and over a mountainous valley. Just blew up a rope bridge below. Marvellous.
Billions of explosions now. Makes that scene in Tropic Thunder look like an indoors fireworks display.
And it's over. That 11.09.10 date again, and Lamia is off. Here comes... Don Mattrick!
His hair is AMAZING. It looks like he borrowed it off an Xbox Live Avatar.
Multi-year agreement between Activision and Microsoft. All COD add-ons will launch first on 360. First on Xbox in 2010, 2011 and 2012.
That's game add-ons AND map packs. "So when you play COD in the next 3 years, you'll want to play it on Xbox 360."
This is "a year of transformation", says Mattress. "If you love games, Xbox is the only place for you and your friends to play all three of the biggest blockbusters in our industry - Halo, Gears and COD."
What about Uncharted, Mattress? Oh I see.
"We're going to world premiere an impressive collection of new experiences today." Are you sure that's a verb, mattress?
Hideo Kojima comes on stage, to thundering visuals and drums. He's speaking English.
"I felt it was important for my team to come up with something enw and unique for the first Xbox 360 project. Today we will premiere the first footage of the game in action. But just like Snake passed the torch to Raiden, allow me to pass the torch to my young producer for Rising," Shigenobu Matsuyama is on stage.
MGS Rising is "unlike anything you've seen before", says Matsuyama. We've heard that one before. No offence.
A trailer now. A close-up tracking shot of a big old sword.
A big guy in shiny black armour is stalking someone in a rusty old factory. It's Raiden! He leaps in and slashes the guy in half at the torso.
And pulls out his glowy electrical spine before crushing it in his fist. "Metal Gear Solid Rising - Lightning Bolt Action."
Now we're seeing him slice whole vans in half. He cuts enemies limes off as if with a pair of scissors. And finally, a couple of watermelons. It's Metal Gear meets Cooking Mama!
Phil Spencer is on the stage now. He's the corporate VP of MIcrosoft Game Studios, and has hair a bit like Christopher Reeve in the original Superman.
"This is our biggest year ever. With our teams delivering exclusive franchises like Halo Reach, Fable 3, Crackdown 2..." And now he's banging on about Kinect.
It's all about "exclusive experiences". Everything he's going to show us today is available only on 360.
It's CliffyB! He's holding a RED Xbox 360 controller because he is ROCK HARD.
In-game four-player co-op demo of Gears of War 3. Marcus appears to have just been in a car crash. He gets to his feet, swings round and sees an enemy ripping his mate's limb off and beating him with it. Marcus impales him on his sword by way of payback.
Now Marcus is racing round the battlefield, taking cover, taking enemies as shields and generally blowing all manner of shizzle sky high.
Just saw one of his new female mates. She looks ROCK HARD.
It looks like they're using ANOTHER giant worm!
Oh ho, they're going to bring the hammer online. They're being overrun by lambent - and to be fair, they are, with loads of massive tendrils appearing out of the ground and groping nearby buildings.
Lambent are bursting out of the ground all over the place. Marcus and chums are doing a storming job of taking all those pesky enemies out, using a winning combination of shooting and then shooting some more. "Mutating," one of the players yells out to Cliff.
More new lambent - this one's a lambent version of the mental blind woman Berserker. It's got bonkers tentacles with razor-sharp claws on the end.
There's some sort of column of fire chasing Marcus now. He races round the corner to safety.
Hang on though - something is putting huge dents in the metal gate. It's the berserker again, leaping over the gate now and... The end.
"We'll be unveiling a new mode called Beast," says CliffyB. Is this what Mark Rein has to show us? Shame, I was hoping for a Just Dance sequel built with UE3.
Molynoire! Hello, Molynoire! Yes, it's Fable 3. "An incredible story, a cast second to none, the great British humour - we know what that means." So Fable 3 will feature drawings of nobs on all the walls then?
Release date: October 26.
Trailer: An evil count type is informing us that people will do as he says or die. Two brothers - one is on a quest to save Albion.
Hand-holding, sword fighting, swan diving, fireball throwing, naval battles, explosions. What no dogs?
Spencer's back now. Babbling about independent developers and the power of Xbox 360. "I'm thrilled to announce an exclusive title from a leading industry developer."
Trailer: A barren, burnt landscape. A gladiator wanders across it, looking a bit grumpy. He's still wearing manacles. Blood drips down his sword.
Crytek!
Another gladiator type appears, this one wielding an axe. And another with a shield. "Codename Kingdoms", it's called.
Is that an actual codename or the name name?
That looked brilliant. But now Spencer's moving on to Halo.
Over 2 billion online hours played, he says. "You haven't experienced the world of Halo until you've played it from the beginning." Bungie's Marcus Lehto takes to the stage.
"Halo Reach is the most ambitious game Bungie has ever created."
Halo Reach is shipping this September, of course (14th if memory serves). We're seeing a trailer now.
SPACE. The final frontier etc. Bits of rock floating about.
A green planet. What looks like Earth, but with a big old hole in one of the continents.
We're on the planet now. Looks like in-game footage. "Is there any place the covenant isn't?" As dozens of ships fly above.
Our hero is crossing a dusty landscape, blasting the enemies that pop out of pods fallihg from the sky.
Racing towards a big industrial structure now, taking cover behind rocks and blasting at more enemies along the way.
The soundtrack is rawking guitar music. You half expect Jack Black to turn up.
Looks like pretty classic Halo, all in all. "Spartans coming in." Shiver.
We're inside the structure now, racing down metal corridors and battering more enemies. It's all gone a bit Alien.
We're entering a large chamber open to the sky. More ships zoom above. Our man retreats bac,k into the corridor.
The rawking guitars are replaced by soaring strings. We see a rocket launching out of the structure and soaring high above the planet.
This looks new - playable starfighters. Dogfights in space!
Only a brief glimpse though, and now Marc Whitten, another corporate VP is on the stage. "Xbox Live has changed the way the world plays videogames" AAAA have we really got three days of this still to go
Xbox Live has 25 million members.
He's talking about Kinect. "With technology like this there are no barriers and no learning curves."
"It's a revolution not just for your games, but for all of your entertainment." Including your pornography?
A bloke called Ron is demonstrating how Natal works. You wave to sign in and it recognises you.
The Kinect Hub - this is where you can access Facebook, Netflix, games, Zune etc.
You can also use your voice - "Just say it and you'll see it."
Zune Marketplace will work with Kinect - you can use your hands to select the movie you want to watch. Our man wants to watch Alice in Wonderland, Wouldn't bother, it's rubbish.
You can use your hands to find your favourite scene on a virtual timeline. People are actually applauding that. (There's more of that in our Kinect family video thing.)
"Xbox, pause" says Ron. The movie pauses. IT'S LIKE LIVING IN 20342
"Xbox, play" starts it again. Now: "Xbox, play music." It works!
He's using his hands to swipe between albums now.
Xbox Live now. First Facebook mention of the show! Hi5!
Kinect and Live are coming to every country where the 360 is sold. Well, yes.
Live is coming to Windows Phone 7 too. Your achievements and avatar will be with you wherever you go.
Sounds like he's going to show us Skype sorry Kinect Video Chat now.
They've got a woman to show us how video Kinect works! Perhaps even I will be able to understand it!
Some of her friends are on Live, some are on MSN. She can see pics of them all on the 360. She's got a twin sister in Texas, and she lives in Seattle, so Video Chat is a great way to keep in touch. What's wrong with ChatRoulette?
He's phoning her twin. "I can see you're busy!" "Yeah, I'm here at E3!" This is like the start of a porn film.
"We can watch a video together!" I bet we can.
"Hey, that's the last airbender! Wasn't there a videogamer about that?" "Yes, there was! My co-workers played it just to boost their gamerscore!"
You'd never believe this was scripted. If you were mad.
Kinect can track body movement and the camera moves with you. "Wow, that's cool! It's following me!" It's stalking you, love.
Video Kinect lets families talk to families. No headsets. No controllers. No.
Video Chat is coming to Microsoft's Live Messenger network too.
Some sort of ESPN trailer now. NBA, MLB, "soccer".
A couple of hilarious American sports presenters are explaining that sports fans will get live on-demand access to 3500 sports events. College football, etc.
Josh Elliott and Trey Wingo are on stage. Trey Wingo! I think they're from ESPN or something. USA's answer to Adrian Chiles and Andrew Castle.
I want to marry you just so I can be Ellie Wingo.
"Wuick shout out to the USA - GOOOOOAL! No English goalie jokes here!" What?
Thousands of sports events, "Most of them in fabulous HD."
We're going to see a clip of USC vs. Ohio State.
"Watch this: Xbox, join USC." You can show which team you support basically.
"Xbox, replay!" says Trey Wingo. The Xbox obeys.
Something just happened in the football match. The Americans are cheering. I have no idea why.
You can enjoy sports trivia questions while watching the sports. "How many times has Ohio State won the Rose Bowl?" Um, 2903?
Oh. 7.
51 per cent of viewers are supporting USC, the rest are supporting the other one. Can you do virtual hooliganism as well? "Xbox, riot!"
The ESPN men are going. Bye bye, Trey Wingo.
All the ESPN stuff will be available free to Gold Live members. If they live in America, presumably? Wonder if Sky is up to something similar.
And now... Kinect creative director... It's Kudo! He's wearing sunglasses what a shock.
Lifestyle photography alert: An Asian gentleman and lady playing Kinect in a white living room. Do they have a factory where they produce these things now?
A small child just ran on the stage. Ah, she's playing Kinectimals. Kudo is standing behind her rubbing his hands. I'm not making it up.
The girl is petting a virtual tiger cub. "Yeah, you like that, yes you do."
She's tickling the tiger. It really is very cute. Now she's telling it to sit and jump. Can you also tell it to sick balls?
The tiger cub has a toy now. She's hiding from it. It's looking for her through the camera.
The tiger cub is called Skittles. She's making it skip with a virtual skipping rope now.
Skittles has gone feral. He's biting her face off and slicing her abdomen open like a carrier bag full of sausages. I am making this up.
Bye, little girl! Bye, Skittles! Hello, Kudo! He's telling us about Kinect Sports with the help of a chap from Rare.
There's a big crowd in the virtual stadium, doing Mexican waves, waving sponge fingers and letting off fireworkds. The Rare guy is telling them to cheer and wave and they respond.
Now the Rare bloke and a random woman are warming up on the track. It's hurdles.
The woman won the hurdles. I suspect performance enhancing drugs.
A video of Kinect Sports now. Soccer. Bowling.
Javelin. Long jump. Table tennis.
Boxing. Beach volleyball.
Kinect Joy Ride now. Another woman is showing the game off. Women are a key theme of this year's Microsoft press conference.
She is using her invisible steering wheel to career round a desert track.
She is drifting all over the place. Now she's doing a double flip through the air.
There are coins to collect and turbo pads to drive over for speed boosts. Where do they get their ideas.
She came third. Well done love, never mind.
"Thank you Lorenzo Lamas," said the chap now taking over from Kudo. No idea.
Now we're seeing the Kinect Adventures game where you're on the moving mine cart platform, catching all the balls.
There's a split-screen multiplayer mode . The camera takes photos of you as you play.
(You can already read our hands-on impressions of all of these elsewhere on Eurogamer, incidentally.)
"Awesome job!" says Kudo. Now we can check out the "great action photos of Darren and Oscar while they played". They are great.
Two more women are showing off River Rush. They've gone women MAD.
They're both on the same screen, in the same raft, leaaning left and right to collect things.
After this they might watch the Sex and the City movie again and get a Chinese. I expect.
Kudo is talking very fast. It's almost as if he's not sure if this whole thing is a good idea and he just wants it to be over. Almost.
Kudo's off. Now we're seeing a video. People in lycra skipping, running.
Shooting virtual balls through hoops.
A hot man is inviting the woman in lyrca to follow him. He's a cardio coach. Very nice.
Another block is punching coloured balls, which explode into showers of pixels.
It's "YOURSHAPE - Fitness Evolved".
It's a Ubisoft title, exclusive to Kinect. Again, one we played the other day.
Felicia Williams is on stage now. She's from Ubisoft. Where's Peter Moore in shorts when you need him?
"Hello, come on in to your own personal gym," says the Wii Fit trainer.
She's taking her jumper off. Her on-screen avatar does the same. Amazing scenes. People are whooping.
Kinect is scanning her body. Good grief this is like something out of Total Recall I am terrified.
Now it's calibrating... Something.
It's measuring her arm length, shoulder span, the lot.
She can choose from gym activities, personal training and fitness classes.
She's inviting Hollywood personal trainer Michael George on stage. He's very excited to be here.
He worked on the game, apparently. It gives you the freedom to choose how you workout. You can take martial arts or yoga classes, play "fun gym activities" or work with a personal trainer.
Felicia is showing us the personal training. The trainer avatar does knee lifts and she copies. Instructions from the coach appear in the upper right corner so you can correct your moves as you play.
Squat punches now. Felicia has burned 25 calories, according to the bottom left of the screen. Time for a biscuit?
No, time to punch some virtual bricks. They explode into smaller bricks.
Now it's time for the cooldown - it's all about being conscious of the relationship between our breath and movement.
I'm more conscious about the relationship between my bottom and this very hard seat. Hurry up, Felicia.
It's over. Now the Harmonix logo is on the screen. It's... Dance Central.
A woman is doing some awesome moves to Poison by Bell Biv Devoe. I think she might have been in Steps.
Two men are sitting watching her, jiggling along to the music. They have yet to produce any dollar bills.
Alex Rigopulos is on stage now. Dance Central is coming this holiday, exclusively for Kinect.
"Posing with handheld controllers just doesn't capture the real spirit of dance." OOH BURN.
The soundtrack features pop, hip hop, RNB, Beastie Boys...
They've worked with world class choreographers. There are over 600 moves and 90 routines, including some from the actual music videos.
Kasson Crooker from Harmonix is going to show us that Dance Central is easy to play even if you're rubbish at dancing. This looks like the demo we saw last night.
The on-screen coach slows his moves down so Kasson can copy them.
Lots of punchy elbows, thumbs up, wiggly hips.
Put your hands in the air like you just don't care! But are contractually obliged to dance in front of 500 journalists!
Kinect will launch worldwide this holiday, starting in North America on November 4th.
15 titles at launch. 40 million+ Xbox 360s now sold.
Exclusive deal with LucasArts. Yeah we know.
Here's a trailer. Star Wars! A man holding a light saber! The video we saw last night! Again!
We can expect to play this next year apparently.
It's hard to tell if it's on-rails but it looks like it could be that way.
A spaceship lands. Darth Vader is on it! Booom! Coming 2011! End of trailer!
Bill Giese from Turn 10 and Dan Greenawalt are on stage now.
You can play this racing game with a virtual steering wheel, turning your head to look around.
Yep, it's a Forza Kinect game.
"Radical new car experiences" are being promised. Video: lots of close-ups of a nice red Ferrari. Rawk guitars. Desert landscapes. Rrwoworrr.
Using Kinect you can walki up to and around the car. You can hold your hand over the headlights to take a closer look. "Sold!" says Oli.
"This is catnip for car nerds," says Oli. It's certainly making me consider retaking that driving test.
You can open the door and sit inside the Ferrari. "I love this part," says the man on stage. He closes the door of the car and the rawk guitars are suddenly muffled.
Coming 2011.
Don is back! It's the Mattress king!
"This is the biggest year in Xbox history." Wasn't that last year? And the one before that?
"We believe fun is a universal magnet that binds us together." Amazing.
"We are launching a whole new era of entertainment." Again.
He's going to share something special with us today - It's a new Xbox 360.
It's all shiny! Like a PS3!
Built-in Wi-Fi. About time.
Ready for Kinect. The New Xbox 360 - here today, ready for tomorrow.
"Sleeker, smaller, whisper quiet, and with a 250GB hard drive" says Mattress. "The fastest wireless network for any console." It will cost the same as the regular 360 - $299.
It's shipping to retailers today. They've done an Apple!
"It will be available in stores later this week. Unless you were here in the theater, in which case we are shipping the new 360 to you, right now, on us."
Woo! They've done a Sony!
Mark Rein is standing up and applauding.
Everyone is very excited. It's like when Oprah gave them cars away.
"Thank you, and have a wonderful E3."
Well, that's it. Sony and Microsoft tomorrow. Here's hoping they're giving away 3DSs and magical wangs, eh?
FIN!
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That is the funniest thing I've seen on the internet since the MS 2010 E3 conference!
You know.. If this fitness thing is better than the wii version on the balance board.. i might be interested.. maybe...
Could do with losing a few lbs.
I watched this last night and I was thinking that exact same thing myself, up until then I was very blas
There was enough to satisfy me for this year's conference. Some Gears 3 4-player co-op demo'd on stage, date for Fable III, the surprise Crytek game, and - between system functionality and some of the games - we saw what we needed to make Kinect a must-have holiday purchase. Add in some of the offline info (such as Netflix Search) and the games being shown at other conferences and I'm a happy 360 owner. (Actually have two of them and, despite four kids, no Wii. We've always found the 360 to be a great family console.)
As far as the free 360's, I think it's less of a bribe and more of trying to get the consoles out into the wild faster. Most reputable journos collect their conference swag/freebies and pass it along to their readers in some fashion. On the other hand, Mattrick's attitude in announcing it didn't do him any favors and it's a pretty risky move that certainly invites scrutiny and criticism. Ah well.
Is that what E3 is, just a bunch of horribly scripted commercials with bad acting. I though this was supposed to be some heavy duty tech demonstrations, not a bunch of this . . . crap
Seriously this is actually making me feel ill
Casual's see something they want and get it even if they're not going to use it all that much, hence casual.
I think a lot of casuals will look at it and go "well i already have a wii which does that - and i never play that any more"
Did they though?
I sincerely think that this waggle-eye-toy thing is going to trounce stuff like GoW3 and Fable 3 sales wise, which is a very bad thing for us gamers who like actual games and not mom-centric shovelware.
If this does well, which i think it will, i'm very worried for consoles as a whole. Thank god for PC gaming
It REALLY looked like burnout ...
http://www.justin.tv/sforsytosis
"Wow, that's so great, sis. What else can we do?"
"Lets watch porn and virtually lez up on camera - i'm in my bedroom already!"
Did they?
I genuinely couldnt remember that bit!
There's nothing on the ps3 yet that i want that i cant get on 360. There needs to be more than 1 game to justify taking up even more space under my tv.
But after todays showing - and knowing what sony's got coming for the ps3.. that's gonna change very very soon.
I'll be surprised if they do because they've already "leaked" Socom 4, KZ3, Infamous 2 etc.
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I expect Nintendo to really excite us with the 3DS, and Sony better have something more to show other than an endless list of sequels...
As a core gamer I agree it was underwhelming, too much focus on the casual market, too cheesey, family friendly and nicey nicey ect. Im not at all suprised though theyve spent alot of money on Kenetic with the aim of bringing more casual gamers/none gamers to the 360 platform, I just hope its business as usual for core gamers after they've sold this to the casuals.
Highlight of the show was the camp geeky looking guy doing the dance game as girly as possible.
Actually am thinking Sony may come out with rosier appreications from the core gamers, as doesn't see much beyond what we already expected from MS. I m not one of those who declares Gears of War 3, Halo Reach etc a lost causes, as these will do sells and yet I also expect would be actually much more enjoyable.
Third parties core games are basically where all the action gonna be, will watch out for those during rest of E3.
After this may our dishonour be forgotten.
;p
Relax children.
Oh and im selling my older xbox, keeping my Elite and getting the new one before its sold here in Greece and I have to give it cheaper
Good grief - of all the things to complain about.
Glad they showed Fable III at least!
+1
Its a genuine observation, nothing immature about it, vice versa if anything and how many times does it need to be said that owning a console doesnt mean you cant have biased against the platform holder.
I have already said as a core gamer I was a bit underwhelmed by the E3 showing this year, alot of the focus is understandably on the casual market since Kenitic is all about bringing more of them to the 360 platform(hopefully thats not sign they are going to ease off on their support for core gamers).
The positives are Kentic itself is looking anything but laggy(seriously you'd be lying if you came away trying to claim that based off what we saw) and GOW3 looked pretty close(although some direct feed footage will settle it fully) to the shots released that everyone was arguing whether they were pre-rendered or not(Epic rarely disappoint in the visual upgrade stakes and this is no exception... anyone claiming that looked grey there is no hope for).
I'm looking forward to the content from Nintendo tomorrow..but not the conference overall...no matter how many great announcements they have..they seem able to kill any hype with a haze of dullness for the next hour..by which time you've forgotten the good stuff.
0/4-/155...
NEWSFLASH - Game publishers and hardware makers give out free stuff to journalists all the time...
My 360 gamertag - mrsmellyclam
Yes i "hate" them. And the fact i found that presentation boring with nothing there for me to enjoy is because i "hate" them and have a "bias" against them. Hell that must mean i "hate" nintendo as i said the same thing 2 years ago during their boring performance...
*sigh* grow up..
Can I have it?
LMAO!
Yeah it was like watching that REALLY SHIT nintendo presentation from 2 years ago!
God, I couldn't sit thru this a second time.
No I don't remember Sony giving away PS3 Slim or PSP Go. Maybe I'm wrong.
The slim 360, while nice, is what the 360 should always have been and the only reason i'll get one will be if my current one breaks.
I hope there's some stuff on the show floor that interests me...
360 Slim looks ace tho and my soon to be traded red Elite will go towards that.
Well those comments are only predictable because they didnt actually show anything!
I was hoping for at LEAST one big game reveal at the end.. But at the moment i'm jealous of ps3 owners - they seem to have a better line up of games.. The new game from the ico guys looks especially good! And I want to play ico in hd (never played the original)
Cue lots of websites saying this was the best conference ever!
Just have a tug and get over it!
Cue lots of websites saying this was the best conference ever!
Wonder what colour the RRoD will be now?
Still built in Wi-Fi is good.
I actually quite like the look of that...
Would making it smaller make it more reliable?
PLEEEEEEEEEASE!!! Not been much i wanted to play yet!
Well the person was REPEATING what was on screen,.. She wasnt controlling the character... Which is why you didnt see any delay. You're basically putting yourself into poses at roughly the same time as on screen looking at it.. Basically it's got more in common with guitar hero.
That's why there wasnt a lag on that one. The fitness game was recreating her moves exactly.
Am I right in thinking that all those Kinect games are full retail, disc based games? Fucking hell...
Oh thank fuck.
Oh never mind, more waggle garbage.
Firstly I didn't neg you for that comment so obviously someone else thinks there is a lag issue.
That dance game seemed to fare a LOT better but the fitness game and other Kinect titles seemed to suffer to me...
Boo!! It seems to be on rails...
This is like the wii all over again!
Why thanks! Dunno what's "bollocks" about me saying the fitness game looking alright though.
And there's still the big "end of conference" reveal.... High hopes for that... Hopefully it's not a shooter.
This is off the chart camp.
This shit will make many times more money than any MGS game.
Always reminds me of Scrubs
Can we go back to the pre-rendered cutscenes please?
There doesnt appear to be any lag there from I see is the good thing.
Nothing suprising so far all in all is the main critisism IMO.
THREAD DELIVERS! \o/
Is he often found stoned in his car too?
.... to see what''ll be at the Microsoft conference next year.
Could do with losing a few lbs.
Start saving for gaming PCs everyone!
*sick bucket*
That's what im thinking.. On a positive note.. Im hoping this means that nintendo will give up with all the mini game crap and move back to more games like mario/zelda/pikmin/etc.
This is fuck.
Welcome to the dawn of Wii60 everyone!
This is worse than Nintendo's conference last year....
Show me something *I* want to play dammit! (bah!)
Oh, and deeply disappointing so far. Seems terribly forced, and wrongly pandering to the wider audience.
"...what the fuck?"
Best E3 quote ever.
How did the Wii Sports look? Didn't see that part.
Can we see some more, oh i don't know, games for the fucking videogame console.
OH WAIT?!
Italy vs Paraguay it is
*snore*
Show some fucking games already PLEASE!
Im impressed IF it works as good as they say...
rooker commentry!
I just slagged off nintendo.. look at my gamerprofile on 360, see how often i play it! Sheesh!
And no, i dont use the 360 to watch some crappy yank football match. And yes - i DO like games which show imagination and innovations! If one shows up, i'll be singing it's praises here! Like castle crashers (for example).
Hmmmm, no.
Its the attitude more than anything you do it every year and you are well known for it, to say you have no bias against MS is laughable.
This section was painful last year too. I get that the 360 and PS3 have all of these extra multimedia features but FFS the convention should ban this shit and make it about the GAMES again.
You know.. this is one thing I *DO* blame nintendo for.. They started all this shit... Dammit!
Maybe this will mean nintnedo will stop and go back to the hardcore next time around? (here's hoping!)
SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP.
Right.. so you know i find grey carbon copy shooters incredibly dull then. The first 20 mins - most of the games could've all been the same!
It's called "having a discussion".. Or would you rather everyone here was jerking off going "ooh, that's bwilliant! ANOTHER grey FPS game! I wasnt expecting that!"
/ waves
Smelly you are a complete tool, and an idiot and you're fooling nobody because you do this every year without fail.(plus damage control for sony thats made me cringe before even though I assume its Nintendo you favour) Also I said SDF, mentioned no names at all and you automatically assumed it was aimed at yourself... says it all really even YOU know how bad you are.
Couldn't agree more.
lol
Fair point... I'd personally like to see something about gameplay.. Like this halo trailer they're showing me now.. video tells me - more of the same.. wont bother.
Edit: typo
What - another shooter? About as interesting as nintendo showing endless minigame collections...
>Its pathetic really nobody cares if you like the 360 or not.
I like the 360, i own one.. It gets more play time than my wii.. So far this show has bored me rigid... I want to see innovation and fun like castle crashers (one of best games on 360 imho), not dull grey shooty, seen it all before, dull crap.
It told me there is a gladiator game coming out from Microsoft with a dull ass art style. I can imagine it'll be a God of War rip-off (Sparta of War?).
A brief clip of the fighting/perspective etc. would be alright but I still don't want to see any lengthy segments of gameplay.
This is where game trailers can be better than film trailers... I don't want to see all the best bits before I get to play it.
cutscenes tell us f-all about the game?
Take that gladiator footage they just showed.. Told us NOTHING about it...
I'd prefer to wait and see the game myself.... I'm here for announcements. I don't want to see eejits play games on a stage.
Innovation is here.
You saw a load of in-engine cut-scene. MGS has never used pre-rendered footage. For a start you wouldn't fit that much pre-rendered footage on a disc
We didnt see any "game" apart from the end chopping bit. We saw a load of pre-rendered guff.
Byeeee
Prefer getting it filtered so that I can assimilate the info in my own pace.
erm.. yay!
http://www.youtube.com/E3
Sod it - I'll grab Chrome just for this event then (see what I'm prepared to do for you EG?)
(big Vietcong fan!)
Not cool EG.
It's now updating, and with the correct time now!
Microsoft's colour scheme is disturbingly like that of BP's..
Ellie being stalked by Ryan Davis of Giant Bomb. Oooo Er'
At least it's not raining...
Sales data and graphs in 3,2,1...
Here come the 'jokes'.
Edit: Unless it's been delayed... in which case I won't be here for the whole show! Curses....
http://www.gametrailers.com/e3/l
ivefeed/...
The YouTube stream should work fine.
Was hoping to watch this with the footy on the TV at the same time....
E3 channel on youtube also promises live streaming, something to fall back on if everything else fails.
*beaten!
http://www.youtube.com/E3
Xbox.com are livestreaming it.
Alternatively, Gametrailers say that are going to livestream the conferences. However, their video quality last year was so dire, I'd be slightly worried relying on it.
"The text is presented with the latest content at the TOP"
Stop confusing me, Eurogamer!
This must be the fifth or sixth event that I'm going to watch live over the internet ... no, probably seventh at least - I'm sure I watched the one that launched the PSP. Pretty cool if you think about it! And pretty depressing that you can't just watch these things live on TV yet - I'm (much!) more interested in this than soccer!