Guinness lists top 50 games of all time
Mario Kart at No. 1, Tetris in second place.
Guinness World Records has released a list of the top 50 most important and influential videogames of all time.
The list was decided on by "a crack team of industry experts" and some girl called Ellie. Games were ranked on their initial impact, lasting legacy, how fun they were to play and the colour of the box. Maybe not the last one.
The number one spot goes to Super Mario Kart. It was the best-selling racer on the SNES, fact fans, with 8 million units sold. And the N64 (9 million) and the GameCube (7 million) and the DS (10 million).
Tetris is in second place, followed by Grand Theft Auto and Super Mario World. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time was in fifth place, meaning it's officially better than Halo at six.
The list appears in the astonishingly good new book Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition 2009, which someone at Eurogamer may or may not have a vested interest in because they helped write it. The book has already been met with huge critical acclaim on a scale previously unheard of in human history, with some analysts predicting it will be remembered for all time as the best work of literature ever produced.
The Guinness World Record's Gamer's Edition 2009 carries an RRP of GBP 15, but it's available now on Amazon for just GBP 7.49. Part of the proceeds from sales will go to help women forced to write acerbic reviews of rubbish Wii games all day.
Here's that top 50 list in full. FIGHT!
- Super Mario Kart
- Tetris
- Grand Theft Auto
- Super Mario World
- Zelda Ocarina of Time
- Halo
- Resident Evil IV
- Final Fantasy XII
- Street Fighter II
- GoldenEye
- Super Mario 64
- Tomb Raider
- Metal Gear Solid
- Call of Duty 4
- Sonic the Hedgehog 2
- GTA San Andreas
- Super Mario Bros
- Zelda: A Link to the Past
- Gran Turismo
- Final Fantasy VII
- Pro Evolution Soccer 4
- The Orange Box
- Lego Star Wars Complete Saga
- Tekken 2
- Wii Sports
- Pokemon Red/Blue
- Guitar Hero
- Project Gotham Racing 4
- Super Mario Galaxy
- Resident Evil
- Ico
- Chrono Trigger
- Gunstar Heroes
- Soul Calibur
- Advance Wars
- Ridge Racer
- Super Metroid
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
- GTA Vice City
- BioShock
- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
- The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
- God of War
- Sega Rally Championship
- Starfox 64
- Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
- WarioWare Inc
- Saturn Bomberman
- Crash Bandicoot
- Outrun 2
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Please note it's clearly a list of VIDEOGAMES (ie console) and that's why there's no PC stuff.
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Where is Shenmue?
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surely the sims (replace with chosen game) should of been in there or something etc
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Now I have absolutely no interest in World of Warcraft but even I know a game that has millions of subscribed users, episodes of popular cartoons basing whole episodes around it, and daily mentions in the mainstream press should probably be considered in the top 50 important and influential games.
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That's why there's no Doom, Quake, Command & Conquer etc...
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Super Mario Kart at number one... hmmm... that would languish somewhere near the bottom of my top games list as it's another game I've only played in the last five years so I can't view it through rose-tinted spectacles any more than I can SF II!
Nice to see under-appreciated gems like PGR 4 and OutRun 2 in there too, although I'm surprised to see FFXII above FFVII.
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- Civilisation - any of them. Please? How the hell can that not be included?
- Populous - the original god game?
- The Sims - probably the best selling series of all time - not my cup of tea - but surely worth inclusion!
- Total War Series - Any of them? Completely redefined/recreated the war game!
- World of Warcraft - Surely those 11 million people stumping up a tenner a month aint playing some useless piece of crap.
- Championship/Football Manager - FFS this series of games has been cited in divorce cases. Huge and loyal following how can it not be in there?
- Secret of Monkey Island (or other LucasArts efforts) - Goddamn I am getting annoyed now.
It seems the creators of this list have never played a PC game in their lives and particularly never any game that involved 'strategic' rather than 'twitch' skills!
Hang them all now!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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I wonder if the 'astonishingly good' Guinness list of greatest pop music contains any compilations. Best album of all time, 'Now That's What I Call the 80's!'
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also all new consoles are just a PC in a nice box anyway. stupid.list.
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No RTS's, 2 Western RPG (Found on consoles), no God Games....
Bah, apart from Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger and Advance Wars (All Japanese strategy games) and KOTOR & Oblivion everything is arcadey.
Where are Populous, Dune, Starcraft, Baldur's Gate, The Sims, World Of Warcraft, Total War Series, Civilisation?
And where are ANY games from the 8 bit era which all laid the foundations for this list which seems to start in the late 90's.
What about Elite, Grand Prix or Manic Miner?
What about Pong or Gravity Wars, they had a bigger lasting legacy than any of these.
Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Galaxy & Super Mario 64, ffs, how on earth can they ALL be in the list, they are the same game updated using refinements of the current generation.
Stupid list.....
Must....Care....Less.....
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Exactly where the fuck is Shenmue? GOAT by far.
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how the fuck can you get away with a list like this without half life in it? what were you's smoking? no doom? worst of all not a single RTS!
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and if one you idiots at Eurogamer contributed to it god help us.
How can you write a publication such as this website and tell me Resident Evil IV is more influential than Resident Evil? WTF has it influnenced since it's release?
Bioshock should be System Shock 2
Super Mario 64 is not even in the top ten even though it influenced many designers to imitate it in their own 3D iterations
Where are the RTS games?
Lego Fucking Star Wars why is that so high?
Why is Final Fantasy XII above Final Fantasy VII?
The problem here is there is gamers who born before the advent of gaming and gamers who were born when games were freely available on multiple formats. I like to call them "the Playstation generation"
Clarity is needed on what this list is about
If your talking about the top 50 most influential games. This list is all wrong
But if you talking about the the most fun games to play based on lasting appeal. Then most entries are correct, bar some odd entries such as bioshock. You tell me who is still playing that game
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I demand a recount for Psycho Fox
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Lack of Guybrush and Gordon is still shitty, though.
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Also its introduced the franchise and was singlularly important to MS and Xbox console, Killzone tried to emulate it but fallen on it face at the time and now i m glad to be able to get my hands today on the sequel!
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Am I missing something?
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edit. lol. need to check my eye sight! completely missed FFVII!
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Few things in there that clearly should be - and a lot more that shouldnt
And lots that should that isnt.
Shouldnd SPACE INVADERS or GALAXIAN (or whatever) be there ? Pretty influential I suspect. And with the current trend of dual stick shooters I rather suspect ROBOTRON should be there too - at the very least Smash TV...
And wheres PACMAN for that matter!!!
Looks to me a lot more like a list of someones favorite games
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My only complaint is Shenmue isn't on the list... fools!
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That being said arguing this list is one of the most pointless things I can imagine doing.
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But, funnier than the list are the video-games elders who dig to bash everything.
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I don't know exactly how their thinking went... Eliminating PC and arcade games from an all-time list seems arbitrary. Why just "videogames"?
Also, the list is wrong straight off the bat. There is no videogame more important and influential than Tetris. There are several games that could go above it in a list that includes all games, but as videogames go, it's number 1, no two ways about it.
Final Fantasy XII, lol!
At least with Call of Duty 4 I can agree that it will prove influential and important in due time, but Final Fantasy XII? And Oblivion? Why not Morrowind, at least?
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I'm pretty sure the box colour was added in
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where's afterburner? donkey kong? international karate? hmmm not to mention Gran Turismo (though is more of a simulation i guess).
wait, no mortal kombat?!?!?
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The list was decided on by "a crack team of industry experts"... erm, no it was decided on by a team of industry experts on crack
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o_0
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they're not even sticking to their own criteria, whilst ommiting all the classics people have mentioned up the thread.useless.
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Funny, I only now noticed they have 3 GTA games on the list. 3? Really?
Looking back, I do think that this list is actually not worth discussing at all. It was probably concocted over lunch and had a requirement to be easy to relate to by kids.
I just discovered, via IMDB, a list made in the way that lists should be made. Clear explanation for the criteria, sound rules (one performance per actor, for instance) and detailed explanations for each choice.
But again, that's hard to do.
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1. Call of Duty 4
2. Gran Turismo
3. Pro Evolution Soccer 4
4. Lego Star Wars Complete Saga
5. Tekken 2
6. Wii Sports
7. Pokemon Red/Blue
8. Guitar Hero
9. Project Gotham Racing 4
10. Super Mario Galaxy
11. Ico
12. Chrono Trigger
13. Gunstar Heroes
14. Advance Wars
15. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
16. BioShock
17. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
18. God of War
19. Sega Rally Championship
20. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
21. WarioWare Inc
22. Saturn Bomberman
23. Crash Bandicoot
24. Outrun 2
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It brought countless numbers of non-gamers to the DS, it sold absolutely legions of copies as a series. And yet it is missing when things like CoD 4 are present.
I'm not saying CoD 4 is not an extremely good games, but "most important and influential"?
Where is "The Sims"? Where is "Populous"? Where is "Wii Fit" and "EyeToy"? Where is "PacMan"? Where is "Space Invaders"? Where is "Donkey Kong"? Where is the "Space Harrier" arcade cabinet? Is there even a single light gun game in that list?
Jesus wept. I could go on, but I'm drained of all motivation. I don't want to cause offense to anyone, and normally I don't ratty about these things. But the Guiness Book of Records is a serious and historical publication, yet this list seems to have been compiled by people who are a) hardcore gamers and b) not much older than 25. If this is going down in history as the most important and influential games of all time... OF ALL TIME... I can only wonder what kind of quality assurance the Guiness people are running these days.
Utterly disappointing. Sorry Ellie, but I hope you see where I am coming from. I don't what version of the word "influential" was being used here, but it wasn't one that I recognise.
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/falls back down into disrupted sleep
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Nice to see Chrono Trigger and Ico in there but where is Okami?
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/turns purple and faints again
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(I was sure I already made this comment, but it seems to not be here.)
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But the Guiness Book of Records is a serious and historical publication
Naw, it used to be.
I got it this years one for Christmas and it was far from a serious publication. Too many "Most bees worn as a beard" or "Longest distance covered while unicycling backwards by a left-handed woman" nonsense and not enough "Fastest time to run 100m" style records for my liking.
Reading some of the nonsense in it almost caused my brain to shut down so I handed it over to my niece who enjoyed the 3D pictures more than anything else (old-tech 3D glasses). To people planning on future record attempts: you may be the person who ate the most live beetles in 1 minute but it's really not noteworthy. It's no fantastic human achievement.
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non-gamers
people without souls
morons
someone having a laugh
or all of the above
.
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Never seriously played Outrun 2, CoD4, PES 4 (still the best!!!), SMG, Advance Wars (!!!), Bioshock, or SEGA Rally.....
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.....really? You've got some catching up to do mate!!!! ;0)
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Congratulations!
(sarcasm) Im sure bioshock is really influential....
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Great to see Mazza Kart at number 1, I played that to death back in the day, still give it a whirl every once in a while.
Surprised to see Final Fantasy XII that high above Final Fantasy VII considering that the latter raised JRPG awareness in the West considerably.
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Hmm, looks like I'm stuck the past (in an age where quality and standards meant something. "Harumph" /taps pipe out on servant's shoe).
@dustrat
I would in no way dispute that both Mass Effect and Fallout 3 are both great games (a coiuple of my favourite in recent years), but I would question whether either of them are influential.
They are both within well trodden genres, they both sell to an existing market whose borders are pretty well defined, they don't do anything that revolutionary in terms of interface or presentation.
For me, any game that can be defined as "important and influential", ESPECIALLY when it is suffixed by "of all time" has to have pushed the industry in a new direction. Either by creating a new genre of gaming, or by profoundly changing the gaming market.
PacMan did exactly that by creating a household name franchise out of a video game. WiiFit and Braintraining did that by putting gaming firmly in the mainstream line of sight (Phillip Schofield and Fern Britain advertising a video game on prime time terrestrial TV). Doom/Wolfenstein did that by creating the FPS genre.
So you see what I mean I hope, whilst FO3 and MS are both great games, they are evolution rather than revolution. If neither game had been made, the games industry would almost certainly keep on rolling in its current direction with little or no change. In my book, an influential game should change the industry that surrounds it in some way. Most of the published list has done nothing of the sort.
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I loved Bioshock, but who did it influence and in what way? Can its influence really be compared to something like (for example) Populous?
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I was merely taking issue with Smelly's repeated trolling of anything that isn't Wii based. I've got a Wii and I play it a fair bit because it has got some great games. Just can't stand the attitude!
One thing I think we can all agree on is that any list like this isn't going to please everyone
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no Sims fail
no System Shock fail
no Fallout fail
no Monkey Island fail
no WoW fail
no Civilization fail
no Half-Life fail
no Doom fail
no Quake
no BattleField fail
no Flight Simulator fail
no Rollercoaster Tycoon fail
no Total War series fail
no Total Annihilation fail
that list is pure F-A-I-Ll
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Mario
Link
Sonic the Hedgehog
Pacman
Vincent Valentine
Guybrush Threepwood
Cloud Strife
Yoshi
Lara Croft
Kirby
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Well the anti-trolling is fair enough. But surely being influential is pretty important if that is the name of the list, no?
I shall bow out now. I'm sounding like a stuck record harping on as I do. My closing comment is that just because you like a game a great deal, it doesn't make it influential. Most of my very favourite games aren't influential, but that is why they shouldn't be in that list.
This is me, at 4:15pm GMT, shutting up.
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It appears according to this list that the "golden era" of gaming consists largely of games post-1999 with very few from the mid-to-late-90s. The early arcade / PC era of the 80s has been forgotten and/or ignored. In fact most PC games despite their groundbreaking work in many genres are not on this list.
The definition of all time to me means games that were historically "relevant" and/or "innovative" that were great to play.
This list is bogus.
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Certainly a bizarre list, hard to see how things such as PGR4 can make it when then are genuinely classic original 3D racers missing (Daytona, for one)
Surprised nobody has mentioned the lack of Sensible Soccer, either.
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Best comment ever.
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Sorry, I didn't have time to compile every complaint I have with it, unlike the mangod Kangarootoo, so short and sweet it was.
I still firmly believe this list is utter bobbins.
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And Mario Kart number 1? Just... no.
(That's the problem with lists like these - they're divisive and basically pointless. But they do get the hits up)
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need to look no further - crap list
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Pac Man
Track & Field
Space Invaders
Daytona
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
No list that includes the arcades could miss these games without being way off the mark. The only arguable entry here is MK, as it was popular, but stood on SFII's shoulders.
Sega Rally should be swapped for Daytona. Sorry!
@andywilkie35
The guy's just a 1st class cock. Get used to it, or just hit ignore.
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How can you make a list of the 50 best games of all time, and then include Crash Bandicoot, but not include Super Mario Bros. 3?
It boggles the mind 0_0
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Without the PC and home computers it carries zero credibility. I don't care if you say it is solely for Video games. That is like saying the PC is not a games platform therefore not worthy of inclusion even though it would dominate this waste of a list.
FFXII in front of VII ??
No.
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????!?
WTF are you talking about? That's like saying "noel edmonds is influential because he's not as shit as the chuckle brothers"
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You REALLY are a sad twat if you think i'm "biased" against anything which isnt wii based... I just said i cant see how that game got to be in such a list (one which has been out a year tops, is hugely overrated, is pretty much a carbon copy of other games of its ilk (except with a good - for a video game - story), and hasnt exactly had time to influence anything?
Where the hell did i mention the wii? or mention other platforms? Just for complete f-wits such as yourself.. I'll re-iterate again.. I own a 360... I play on that a hell of a lot more than the wii.. and am currently spending all my gaming time on BurnoutParadise - which i'm loving. That's not to say i wont respond to complete fanboys slagging off the wii (which has become the "in thing" to do on this forum of late) - but that doesnt mean i'm the sort of arse that will slag off another machine (which is pointless).
I'm here for the GAMES.. Dont give a shit what platform they're on.. retards like you will never understand that though.
(and before you go looking for posts which "prove" i'm a wii fanboy.. yes i like mario, yes i'm a fan of nintendo games.. no i didnt like halo 3 or bioshock - no that doesnt mean i "hate" the xbox.. I also am enjoying Noby noby boy at the moment and was happy we reached the moon the other night)
sheesh.. what a twat you are.
EDIT: Typed "hear" instead of "here" while replying in a rage to that twat.
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you would say that you Chuckle brothers fanboy
Take what i said about chuckle bros and edmonds.. and swap it around
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Here's my list of games which DONT deserve to be in that list (and why)
Halo - compared to pretty every pc fps before it.. it wasnt up to much
Final Fantasy XII - I'll give you FF7.. But 12? Not on yer nelly
Super Mario 64 - Mario world or mario 3 should be in its place
Call of Duty 4 - Only if we count multiplayer.. single player was "meh"
GTA San Andreas - Vice city should be at this position, SA shouldnt be on list at all)
The Orange Box - it's a compliation not a game
Wii Sports - w..t..f
BioShock - (see above)
WarioWare Inc - no
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - Overated graphics fest
Crash Bandicoot - And not mario world?!? Are you f-ing kidding me?
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whoops!
okay.. mario 64 should be mario 3 then
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I agree with some in that list but not the positions. List was automatic rubbish as soon as I saw the likes of PGR4 and Warioware in there. Absolute farce of a important "console gaming" list.
Still EVERYONE has THEIR OWN list of important games, of course they mean absolutely dick to me and the games I like. (well, now and and again I like my views reflected, LIKE DEAD SPACE EG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)... .er sorry, anyway make your own lists people, besides Guinness is Irish...therefore stupid.....
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rofl, is that a typo?
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and wtf, PC games suddenly aren't "video games"? When did that happen?
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Plus on principal I'd refuse to pay for anything Ellie had a hand in. But that's another story.
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There's your list!
*Stomps off
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For example:
GTA : important & influential.. lots of games tried to copy it
Mario 64 (or the original mario platformers) : Ditto.
Bioshock.. erm....
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Where is Elite for example?
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Hmm, I don't think I read the article when I think about it. I missed the "important" and "influential" parts. Oh well.
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1 & 2 wrong way round, but not by much
8/13/14/16/22 GTF!
12 Always unremittingly shite. Never anything else
25 Surely influence only. Otherwise, what?!
26/29/31/33/35/36/39/50 Should all be much much higher
45 Not even in the top 2000 games ever
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Ahhh right, it's videogames, not Computer Applications. Fair enough.
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Many of these games are not influential.
Reads more like a favourite games list than influential list. And in a most influential list you simply cannot ignore the PC and other computers. Games like Doom, Elite, Half-life, Dune...
Most of these games are less than three or four years old and apart from a few titles cannot be considered influential for this reason alone.
Terrible terrible list.
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And how did PGR4 get on that list? It had nice graphics, thats it. The older games were better in every other regard.
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If this was Eurogamer's list of 'games we just thought of which we like' I'd be disappointed; the fact hat's it's being backed up by Guinness World Records (though what this shitty list has to do with world records I've no idea), makes it utterly farcical.
3/10 Must Try Harder
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]http://community.guinnessworldrecords.co...[/link]
Scandalous.
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this list is nothing without half-life.
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Lego SW is higher than Ico? I can't understand that
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BioShock?
Project Gotham Racing 4?
Call of Duty 4?
Lego Star Wars Complete Saga?
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Anyway, here are a few games I have picked out. Not to say I hate them all, but just thought they deserved comment...
Super Mario Kart - Ok these games are good but Im getting a bit bored of the newer updates just recycling tracks from old games? Also cant completely fall in love with a racing game that has fallen into this annoying habit where it is smarter to be 2nd for 90% of the race.
Tetris - Yeah ok we get it, if you put this fairly high in a 'Best Ever' list it shows how cultured you are as its such a gamers game. I dont care how much it helped the handheld industry, or how iconic the music is, its a game where you try and fit shaped blocks together, not exactly making my dick hard.
Halo - I wouldnt mind if people just went on about the online with this, but its the fact that people seem to buy into the completely non existent story that really winds me up about this game. The first one was so fucking dull, people were too busy wanking themselves into oblivion over how real the grass looked to realise the final third of the game was literally the same thing over and over for 2 hours. One of the laziest games I have ever played from a level design perpective.
Resident Evil IV - Have they just picked this because it is the most recent one? It is brilliant, but it peaks in the first 20 minutes and never really gets back to that level of awesome. Plus the dated control system gets shown up more and more with every installment. I reckon I enjoyed this precisely 2.7 times more when I played this on the Wii just because the aiming wasn't more awkward than flicking on the bedroom light to realise you'd just fucked your sister
Final Fantasy XII - Actually quite impressed how a game can have such a complete cast of clichéd dull characters led by the least charismatic main character I can imagine, a boring clichéd story nobody could care less about, all tied together with an arbitrary skill system, and 50 hours of "go here find this then come back" missions.
Street Fighter II - OMG IT WOZ DA FIRST ONE DAT STARTED IT ALL, except there has been about 827 versions of Street Fighter II, which at least 60% of them being better than the original
Grand Theft Auto - Why pick 3 of a 4 game series? why not just pick the series as a whole? they are all the same fucking game anyway. Funny how they left the most recent one out, despite it finally bothering to have a decent, paced narrative and a half decent fucking combat system. Shame that Saints Row does GTA so much better now, mainly because it isnt wanking itself off looking into a mirror
GoldenEye - Was this really as good as everybody said? REALLY? Im not asking was it good, it was brilliant, but was it as good as everybody says it is
Gran Turismo - You could put on a rolling demo of this game and hold the pad in your hands and still have just as much excitement as actually playing the game. One of the worst. On a sidenote it really fucked me off they were pretentious enough to release a fucking Prologue to GT5. A prologue. FOR A FUCKING RACING GAME. I could almost tolerate it if they released a FFXIII Prologue, or a Metal Gear 4: Epilogue. I could almost stomach that, releasing a small narrtive based expansion for a game famed for how story driven it was. Not for a fucking racing game that has the temerity to disckstroke itself into a frenzy about the realism and then not even have damage moddelling. Just fuck off
Pro Evolution Soccer 4 - Well what they have done here is just picked a completely fucking random installment of this game to try and make it sound like they've made this really informed choice. Please
Lego Star Wars Complete Saga - Refreshingly well done spin on 2 different franchises yes, best game ever? no
Wii Sports -What the fuck? seriously what the fuck. Bowling just about the only palatable game on there and I got bored of that before the disk was even all the way inserted into the console
Guitar Hero - Yeah ok it started it all but lets face it, there have been better versions now?
Project Gotham Racing 4 - Probably the worst of all the PGRs (actually 3 was gash wasnt it?) and not a touch on MSR.
Super Mario Galaxy - Everybody would have you think this reinvented platforming. It didnt, it just showed it from a different camera angle. Solid 8/10 game. Next
Crash Bandicoot - This game was complete gash, even at the time. I've played Game and Watch titles with more to it than this shit
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To me there is something cheap about putting 3 games or so from one series in a top 50 list, especially when I don't feel like they all stood out so much individually that you would just HAVE to include them to have a respectable list. I mean if I was trying to make a top 50 albums list or something, id really try not to have the same band in there twice, I think id rather just chose the album I think most summed that band up. Maybe that's not the right way to do it but that's just me.
I mean they've only picked 50 games out of all the games EVER, but have picked 5 Mario games (6 if you include WarioWare), 3 GTA, 3 Zelda, 2 Final Fantasy and 2 Resident Evil, so 15/16 of all the games on that list come from 5 different franchises, just smacks of laziness really
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1. Pong
2. Space Invaders
3. Tetris
4. Pacman
5. Doom
6. GTA III
7. Super Mario 64
8. Outrun
9. World of Warcraft
10. The Sims
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That said, there's no denying that it's an awful, awful list. Sure there's opinions on things, but for a game to be "influential" it has to actual influence gaming and many of those game simply have not (by virtue of either being too new (and thus their effect is not yet known) or because they are at the end of the natural curve, not the beginning).
Edit: RES posting above me is much, *much* closer to an "influential" list (even if I don't 100% agree with it
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Agree with your point about games being 'influential'. The games should either define an origin, evolution or golden age of game type.
If I could be ersed to list 50, then Asteriods would be in there representing the radial shoot-em-ups. Also Elite would get a mention.
But I guess a balance has to be struck somewhere because the true origins/influence of some game types would lie in the obscurist of titles. Rendering such a list accurate, but possibly meaningless to the casual reader or non-game anorak.
This is possibly why the Guiness list is how it is.
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An accurate list should be paramount, as a non-game anorak wouldn't buy a a book called Guiness World Records: Gamer's Edition ^_^
The list is what it is: Not particularly enlightening, due to intentional omissions.
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I mean for example Mafia is one of my favourite games ever because the mission design was brilliant and the story was well told and immersive, but I could still sit there and slate it for blocky animation, sometimes frustrating AI, especially friendly AI, lack of headshot detection and a few other things? I just wanted to put an alternative out there to people dickriding the same old games. I refuse to believe someone could call themselves a genuine fan of gaming and then still be able to wholeheartedly disagree that say GT5 really suffers from lack of damage modelling or that Halo has a weak story. Agreeing to these things and enjoying the game anyway aren't mutually exclusive
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I had to post again i thought that was so funny. Do you not realize that it has a rating of 97 on metacritic.com, putting it in position 6-13 of highest rated games ever with the other 97īs.
And that it has sold almost 8 million copies, which puts it in #46 of the best selling games of all time.
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Show me ONE game which has been influenced by bioshock (apart from the innevitable bioshock 2)
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And what the hell is grand theft auto doing at the top? Do they mean the original? I didn't think it was THAT great. San Andreas is listed down there so it's not supposed to be collective...
Good that Symphony of the Night made it though.
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Is that in reference to me?
I like to think my girlfriend would agree
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Target Renegade. where is it?
2 sets of hands on a cramped speccy keyboard playing co-op in this classic side-scrolling brawler is one of the fondest memories of my long 29 years.
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Rough Guide released a gaming bible last year which covered all formats and was pretty spot on in my opinion. This kind of list just feels insulting to other formats such as PC/Amiga/Spectrum and derides a part of gaming that is/was crucial to the development and current state of today's gaming industry.
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