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Welcome! Were just getting ready for the second conference of the week - its Nintendo up to bat this time, in the Kodak Theatre slap bang in the middle of Hollywood. Our US ground team (its like being in the army, but for unhealthy people) is en route to the theatre as we type, and well be getting updates out of them in the next few minutes.
Everyones filing into the giant, tiered Kodak Theatre. Slowly, but a bit more freely than we experienced at Sony yesterday.
Nintendo just issued a command over the PA that people turn off laptops, wireless and Bluetooth devices before the conference. This could be interesting! Not to worry, though - theres always the high-tech solution of putting our laptops under our coats while updating.
"The programme will begin promptly at 9.30," apparently. Theyre still telling us to turn off laptops and so on - our best guess is that theyre worried that too many devices running in the hall will mess up their wireless controllers. Back in the UK, though, Marks best guess is that Miyamoto is actually a Bluetooth-controlled robot who has been masquerading as him ever since the real thing died in a freak cosplay accident. I think we all know the truth of this.
Its looking like theyre actually going to start on time. Were being clandestine with our laptops. Tom may well get violent if they try to throw him out, though, so keep an eye out for Nintendo security brutality footage on EGTV later.
Fine, maybe theyre not starting on time after all. Theres a healthy buzz anyway, even though the theatres nowhere near full - which is unusual for Nintendo conferences, as theyre normally packed to the gills.
A big blue curtain screen just rose up behind the Nintendo logo, and Miyamoto has walked on-stage.
Hes conducting an in-game orchestra on-screen playing the Zelda theme. Using the Wii controller to do so, his actions reflected in the music tempo.
The little characters look like bobble-heads, wiggling their instruments erratically. Miyamoto makes huge sweeping gestures to finish.
Now the lights are up on a guy on-screen playing a driving game - a pick-up spinning through the desert as he twists his hands to turn.
Next we have a sword-fighting game on the opposite side of the stage - first-person slashing. Graphically none of this is that exciting, but its clearly using the Wii controller fully.
The lights are up on Reggie Fils-Aime. "If all you want is next-generation, youre in the wrong place." "Its not just next, its whats absolutely new." "Playing is no longer just about looks, its about the feel." "Its about everyone."
"Playing is believing." Goes into a trailer reel. Thank god for that.
The Wii logo dances onto the big white screen. Four controllers appear, and two guys pick up two each and start drumming. A groups playing tennis, whacking the balls with the controller.
Now theres a golfer. All these sports demos have a common graphical theme. Now the orchestra game is back, with people conducting the wand like a baton.
Mario.
Running around on small worlds, using the wand to smack things at bosses. Now theres a flying game with the wand used to change the arc. And Metroids on now, first-person shooting one-handed in MP2-quality visuals.
And now a running game, and Warioware - slicing things, trying to balance a stick on a hand, shaking motions, turning keys, wiggling a hula hoop. Now a big hand. There's a table tennis game up now.
Whacking the ball with the controller. And now an FPS, with the player marking targets before blasting with a GoldenEye style reticule (though, well, it's hardly going to be that is it). The fighting game's back. And now Zelda.
Firing arrows, swiping enemies with the Master Sword. Throwing a fishing line into the water to snag a bass as Link sits in his little boat.
The Wii logo lands back on the screen. Everyone applauds. "2006" it says.
Reggie's back up. He points out that people were surprised by DS - he's making a point about how people were sceptical of the DS too, and the Wii controller.
"Today you will see. And tomorrow you'll start to feel. Welcome to the next leap in gaming."
"We have answers to some questions, but deliberately not to all." They want to jolt our right brains with inspiration, apparently. Last time I jolted my right brain it was when I fell off my bike. I guess this is going to be different.
Reggie says he's going to answer questions, but maybe not everything. He's walking us through the old days - 96 and Mario 64. "Even then, it was about the feel."
"The memory of that moment was the starting point for Wii." No, he's not cringing when he says the name. Admittedly, we're doing enough for both of us.
Date and price: "We believe it's in our interest to keep the details private." More fun for less money, in Q4 2006. A ripple of applause.
"Next, the name." "First, we want to thank everyone who wrote good things about it the day you heard it." "Both of you."
"At first every distinctive name sounds strange." Did we love Lexus, Ikea, Google, he asks. "Change is good." It means "just what it sounds like".
"It's the sound of the future." There's lots of this sort of soundbite flying around. "What about third parties?" In detail in a few minutes, he says.
(Yes, he did just say that Wii is the sound of the future. The jokes are STILL writing themselves.)
Another trailer reel. Metroid Prime 3 Corruption - firing at stuff in the air, morph balling. Dragonball something 2. Dragon Quest Swords - a volcano erupts, water hits. Fire Emblem! Woot! A bird lands on a girl's hand.
Spongebob. Cars. Super Mario Galaxy. More darting through the skies. SD Gundam.
Dynasty Warriors or somesuch. Necro-Nesia. Excite-truck.
Elebits from Konami. Looks quite basic. That gun game earlier was Red Steel by the way. Rayman 4's up - lots of rabbits getting boshed. Super Swing Golf PANGYA. Sonic Wild Fire.
Project HAMMER (Nintendo), Finalfurlong Revolution. One Piece Unlimited Adventure. Madden.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - airships in the sky, chars wandering around looking stylised like FFCC Cube. Zelda's up too. And the Wii logo. Phew.
The Zelda Twilight Princess logo hangs over Reggie's head now. "It is by far the best Zelda game we've ever made." "This is the first Zelda game that will be right there on launch day alongside a new Nintendo system."
A first look, he says. Nate and Bill from NOA turn up to play the game on Wii.
Familiar to anyone who's played Zelda. Movement on analogue nunchuck. Items d-pad. Targeting on Z button.
There's a fairy on screen indicating where you're pointing. He's going in to battles - sword swing on B button with remote.
The bow is aimed using the pointer "like all distance weapons" - aims with a circle in the centre of the screen where the cursor moves; when you move outside the circle the camera turns.
There's also a depth of sound effect. The Wii remote has a speaker. "You'll hear the bow-string go taut." The sound will run from the controller to the screen where it'll be heard impacting.
A quick jab with the Wii remote - a thrust, really - and you'll feel the impact through the rumble friction. They're just playing it on stage - a tiny TV and a Wii.
The classic Zelda chime will be heard on the speaker on the remote, apparently. We're seeing a stripped down bit of one dungeon.
You can pick up crates with A on the remote, and then throw them by doing a chuck gesture.
Iron boots are back. They don't just weigh you down, but lift you up - Link hangs upside down form a big electromagnet.
"The E3 version is just a very compact dungeon." Also toned down in difficulty so it's accessible as a demo.
Fires an arrow at some string to make a bridge fall. Quick rotation with nun-chuck for spin attack, then a stab to do a down thrust.
There's a big door. Apparently they're not going to show it to us because it's awesome. We'll also have a Zelda fishing demo at E3, he says. And they're off.
Reggie: "This Zelda of course is the first ever to feature free control." But it'll work on GameCubes too, he reiterates. "Here in the Americas, Nintendo will launch two different versions." Same day as new console launches.
"The name of the game is still games." "Actions speak louder than words." Lord. Aha, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. More running and gunning with Wii and nun-chuck controller.
Super Mario Galaxy. The world's like two giant dishes cupped together and you can run around either side. Swing hand to battle objects, grab shooting stars with pointer.
"Hard at work on new franchises." Three early previews, starting with Excite-truck.
Tilt controller like handlebars, he says. Terrain deforms beneath you in real-time.
"In Project HAMMER, swing the controller and the bad guys get nailed."
Disaster: Day of Crisis. "Bring the catastrophe under your control." That's where the volcano was from earlier.
Third-party stuff. We won't see much from them today apparently, except Hyper Sonic. (Wasn't it Sonic Wild Fire a minute ago?)
FF Crystal Chronicles again. "Wii will take what is familiar and reinvent it." The FF stuff was CG basically.
Madden's up on screen now. Reggie seems excited. You'll use lots of gestures for that. Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam now. Rayman. They're not showing these - just logos.
"While we're not going to specify a launch number this morning, you'll be playing 27 different Wii games tomorrow on the show floor."
And seeing even more on video. That includes "none" of the titles due with Virtual Console, he says.
Another example coming up. Ubisoft's here to talk through Red Steel.
Launch title exclusive. Set in USA and Japan. He uses nun-chuck in left hand and fire gun with other controller. But, er, the video's not on the giant screen.
Might be a bit of a technical issue, this. We can hear him playing it and see him doing it, but no video. Apparently you can push doors, and "you are in the game" etc.
"Where's the game?" some bloke behind us yells. Aha, and the vid's up.
Applause. Looks quite current gen but controls are the key. He's pointing with the cursor and firing, ducking behind stuff, reloading, opens door by gesturing it aside.
Trying to keep action fast-paced, he says. AI has a clan system to work together, apparently. Destructible environments. Physics. Soft bodies.
By holding a button you can effectively pause the action, tag enemies' weak points by pointing, then resume to kill.
Move left hand and movement follows. And now he's going to fight with a sword - the demo we saw earlier.
You block with left, slash with right, in any directions. "Dozens" of combinations available.
Easy to handle, hard to master. And that's the Red Steel demo.
Reggie: "We want to switch gears now." From Wii to DS. Introduces George Harrison, who comes out of a special sliding door in the stage face. Weirdos.
"No matter who you are we will make things better." Shows people playing it in various places, smiling like they're getting paid. HAHA it's all so merry!
Apparently he's not going to talk sales figures, which is nice of him. "Some of you questioned if we were up to the challenge" when PSP came out, he says. But it's all about the games, he argues. Nintendogs, Brain games, seamless portable Wi-Fi play.
"In terms of actual sell through to players, DS has sold more than 16 million units." Says PSP is "millions less" - cites independent sources.
"Easy and free is a pretty persuasive offer" he says of the Wi-Fi Connection sales. Over 1.3m users, 40+m sessions.
Now he talks Brain Age. Mine's still 20 by the way. 5 million players in Japan, he says, including old people like Kristan, who is looking in horror at all the text I'm sending you.
Touch Generations - Big Brain Academy, Clubhouse games, Sudoku Gridmaster are all part of this idea of games for all.
Talk about DS Lite, and New Super Mario Bros. "Which is the very picture of old school." It does look a bit sexy.
Pokemon Blue Mystery Dungeon and companion Red version for Game Boy coming soon too. Already huge sellers in Japan - due in US on Sept 18th.
Diddy Kong Racing DS, Yoshi's Island 2, Starfox DS are all up, logos. No trailers.
Final Fantasy III coming with improved 3d graphics he says. Shows Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam DSnow. 3d on top screen, 2d general map on bottom.
Aha, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. "Picking up where Wind Waker left off." Sailing, swordplay, controlling path of boomerang with stylus.
Trailer reel. Mario Hoops 3 on 3. Starfox DS - nice 3d, can't see touch-screen. New SMB vid. Elite Beat Agents. Yoshi's Island 2. Very distinctively Yoshi's Island styled.
Pokemon Mystery Island DS. Diddy Kong Racing - looks similar to Mario Kart with overhead on touch-screen.
Zelda, whacking a big squid. Big Brain Academy. Local wi-fi 8-player. Mario vs. DK: March of the Minis. Create your own levels.
"Playing = believing" it says. And Satoru Iwata joins us on stage. Talking in English.
"When I became president, we decided on a new goal for our company: expanding the total number of people who play games." Current, and two different types - who once played, and those who never played.
It's similar to the TGS speech he made last September. Graphics are not necessarily the way forward for non-gamers and former gamers, he says.
"The solution is to reinvent the relationship between player and game, the game controller interface."
This will also excite core gamers he says. "Core gamers always represent our most important audience."
First "disruptive innovation" was DS, he says. People began to understand through Nintendogs. And the brain games.
"So how do we continue this strategy with Wii?" One-hand control is just like the touch-screen of DS, he says, breaking down the barrier.
Virtual Console will bring old gamers and their stuff together again, and add as a way of getting simple, intuitive games. With Wii control matched to VC, "maybe a game like Tetris can be feasible again".
Says load-times annoy him. These days he's busier than ever and he doesn't want to wait 30-40 seconds for a game to load. He's probably not a WWE PSP fan then.
He says he's spoiled by the DS suspend option, just closing the screen and opening it again.
"If serious gamers find [load delays] frustrating, how can we expect mass market to put up with it?"
The Wii will also help this. Virtual Console games and Opera browser saved to flash ROM will load in just a few seconds.
"Let me describe one more hardware feature." No console does anything when it's off, he says. "We designed a machine to provide a variety of services even when it seems like it is turned off." It will be the "system that never sleeps". "Wii Connect 24" will auto standby, but still do key functions.
This means the Wii console can be constantly connected, he says. Devs can push new content to you even while you sleep. "Starting with something like Animal Crossing, any time the console is in standby they may find a friend has visited their village and left a message or a gift."
"Programmers won't need to write a single line of code - networking software is included in the hardware."
"What we are aiming for is a system that is new every day."
"Finally, the most difficult job is to reach people who've never played before" - by removing several walls. Most important is software. Says the games will bring old and new games together.
"What kind of game can do that?" Examples tomorrow include Wii Sports - the things I reckoned looked the same earlier. Tennis, golf and baseball. Due at launch.
Sorry, that just sank in. "WII SPORTS". They tell us we'll get used to the name in time, and then they do this? God.
Four player support judging by vids and shots. Iwata reckons it'll appeal to people with differing levels of experience.
"We will help destroy that wall between them." Shows a wacky family, with Mum looking like she's about to gaily whack junior on the back of the head.
"This is our answer. Thank you very much." He says. Not about domestic violence, though. Reggie's back. Says hello to people watching online. Hi, Reggie!
Aha, the AOL sweepstakes bloke is about to be brought out. Three grand prize finalists, he says. Miyamoto has chosen the winner.
Miyamoto is on. "Before I pick the winner, I should explain how we play." "Even your Mum can play it." "Just hold it like a tennis racket."
He tosses up, serves, hit forehands, swing low-to-high to lob, do top-spin. He's really doing it - his dramatic actions reflected perfectly by the player, including movement across the stage.
"The winner is," he says, opening an envelope. Scott Dyer won apparently. He looks a bit bemused. "Can I ask you to be my partner in the next game?" asks Miyamoto.
Reggie's coming to join in, and he's got Iwata too. Looks like we're going to have doubles. "Maybe this year I can take the names and you can kick the - you know." Heh, an Iwata char in game. And a Reggie. They're cute [Tom said this. Views certainly do not reflect the views of the rest of Eurogamer, etc, etc...]. And Miyamoto, and a mystery blue man with a crown on.
They're playing doubles, split screen vertically so each group can stand behind their chars. 3 points and you lose. Miyamoto serves, Iwata misses.
"Rematch! Come on!" says Iwata, starting on the new guy. Fight!
Miyamoto just missed the ball completely. New guy plays it out. Looked a bit more fluid before when Miyamoto was demoing.
And they're done with that one. "Be sure to wear some loose clothing so you can really get into it," the translator advises the E3-bound crowd.
"The bottom line of every E3 is simple," says Reggie. "What's hot and what's not." Feel and the next leap are hot, apparently. "It's hot if it's disruptive, it's not if it's predictable." "The future of our industry is inclusion, not exclusion." I'm not even going to keep typing these.
"Wii and the DS represent the same thing: risk. Risk allows progress. We don't run from risk, we run to it. Change is good." "Seeing is just an impression. Playing is believing. Thank you all. See you tomorrow."
It's all over. Thanks for tuning in! Now to go and find out which random European dates they've slipped into the press pack.
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Indeed, but you cant really be excited about Ninty? In all seriousness? They are a little different, but exciting is too strong a word to use after their presentation. All three were pants, maybe Ninty's had a designer label but thats all.
At the end of the day, there are no new ideas anymore. Just look at the movie industry. And if a new idea is popular, look how quickly its seized upon and whored to death.
It just makes me laugh. All three 'next gen' have a paucity of original titles, but idiots will still debate about whos is the least original.
I all honesty, I couldnt give a crap whether its the 19th itteration of Mario or the 12th GTA game. If its good, i'll play it. If it provides no new ideas and is just treading water, I wont. I mean, the three games, ottomh, that im looking forward to at the moment are Halo 3, a new Ninja Gaiden and Tekken on the PSP. Not earth shattering, but I know they will rock my particular socks off.
As I said, there are no original ideas anymore. Just good and bad games and, in all fairness, Nintendo are exceptionally good at flogging the horse for longer and more originally than anyone else.
Me?
My gamer friends?
My non-gamer friends?
My sister?
My mum?
You'd be surprised how many idiots there are in the world who don't let 'not looking cool' get in the way of having fun.
You could well ask exactly the same question about guitar hero. Last gen graphics. Stupid controller. Yet here I set, completely unable to get the solo from Smart Dressed Man out of my head.
I have my reservations, but i'll wait until i play one for myself.
My point in all this was that people keep saying "nintendo just rehash the same games", they dont, they re-invent them. The main franchises are considerably different way they play and look in each version. And my other point is that the other two "rehash old franchises" just as much (they just have fewer popular ones to do it with).
I'd love to see a team invest some time in making a character interact with its environment properly, we're still using the same techniques we had 15years ago!! Yes, it's not specifically gameplay orientated in the traditional sense but...
Fighting in Fable? Hello!? It might as well have come from my days on the flaming ZX Spectrum, make it feel a little less Arcadey, less features, more love (I think Ico is a fairly good example of the direction I'm talking about).
This isnt aimed solely at Ninty, rather all devs.
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1. Zelda has never been a launch title before
2. If you watched last nights presentation they played down the sequels to existing IP and pointed out they have quite a lot of new IP, then showed them too.
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1a. Zelda... you say it like its the saving argument, it's not. It's still Zelda and just as many people dont like it.
2a. Yes, maybe they realise what they've been doing? Still, I honestly havent seen anything EXCITING.
Playing tennis with the new controller isnt exactly impressive, in fact I'd go so far as to say it's gonna be less fun than using a traditional controller - how's that for a sweeping statement?
How can you make sweeping statements about all the rev games being just graphical improvements with a new controller without playing them either.. See?
but that is simply ALL Nintendo seem to do on each launch
1. Zelda has never been a launch title before
2. If you watched last nights presentation they played down the sequels to existing IP and pointed out they have quite a lot of new IP, then showed them too.
Im sure you watched the presentation, so i'm sure you can see that for yourself.
Nope.. Just graphical improvements.
Links or proof please? You cant give us any? So you mean you dont sit on the Rockstar or Bungies Dev team?
Im shocked! SHOCKED I SAY!!!!!!!!! That you have managed to infer that Halo 3 is 'just a graphical improvement' on the last two from a 30 second trailer with no in game footage. And as for GTA4, a game 18 months away from release, well, you give Doris Stokes a run for her money.......
Im afraid to say, you are just as guilty of everything you are accusing the other dumbasses on this thread of. You are just marginally more eloquent.
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I'm not saying there is anything 'really' wrong with rehashing (slighly improving) existing games, but that is simply ALL Nintendo seem to do on each launch and have done way before Sony/M$ arrived. If you like those games fine, I was simply pointing out I do not like Mario and Jap style games, it's not my cup of tea I'm afraid, they are too childlike (all IMHO of course). No doubt that comment will make some ppl upset :-/
Hell, I buy all the Gran Turismo games (I like them) but they have hit the point of no return - More of the same content. If you read my posts on the M$ and Sony threads you'll see I have no preference on console manufacturer, I'm only interested in the games. Ninty has rehashed for years, Sony and M$ much less so (No doubt they will rehash over and over). Ninty have had plenty of time to do something different.
They called it the revolution to start with - maybe they realised it wasnt and so changed its name so that it was more akin to the size of improvement you're likely to see in their games. Dont even mention Getaway, it sucks
Each of the presentations has been a let down so far, in this thread I am simply saying they (Ninty) havent attracted me, I dont want to play the games they've had for donkey years.
So hows that any different to playing the same old games on teh 360/ps3 with better graphics (and without the controller)?
In fact, i can gaurantee there will be major gameplay changes/improvments to all these "rehashed" games as you call it, and not just graphical improvments.
Can you say the same for the new getaway, halo, gt, etc etc?
Nope.. Just graphical improvements.
But whenever a kid wants to slag off nintendo to show how much their chosen machines "ROXORS" they always say "but nintendo keep releasing mario/zelda/etc" and everytime they say that they completely miss the point
(so im not even sure i know why im bothering to reply, all htis will go in one ear..)
OMFG!!!!! NINTY HAS PWNED SONY!!!!!!!
Erm..no it hasnt
OMG!!!!! SONY FANBOI!!!!!!!!
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ZOMG!!!!!!11!! NINTY HAS BUMFUCKED M$!!!!!!! LOLZOR!!!!!!
Erm...the 360 arguably had the better games on show and since it had no real hardware developments to speak of it was potentially less groundbreaking.
OMG!!!!!!!!11!!!! M$ FANBOI!!!!!! LOOK HOW MANY COMMENTS THIS THREAD HAS COMPARED TO THE M$ ONE!!!! NINTY HAS ALREADY WON THIS GEN!!!!!
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If each of you had as many braincells as the amount of time 'Fanboy' has been bandied around in the last few days, you would be intelligent to know how retarded you all sound.
And, for the record, until this E3 I was all set to get a PS3 (after passing on the PS2 altogether). However, after what I have seen and heard on EG, im probably going to plump for a 360 after the next pricedrop.
/OMG! M$ FANBOI!!1111
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I couldnt give a stuff about Mario and countless Jap style games. I dont want to swing my bloody arm around trying to play tennis... I am not asking for exercise when playing videogames!! Christ.
Yes, good on them for trying something a little daring but it'd be nice to play some original and well crafted games, something none of the contenders seem to have hit on. As for the annoying corporate mumbo, please save me
If I loved the games Nintendo has been rehashing for the past billion years I might want to buy a new console and play them with a new controller and slightly better graphics. But I dont.
I'm in total agreement with T4RG4 comment, the guy is spot on.
Well first of all, @ patch, I was suprised to see that you have a penchant for old school type games since all you have done is criticise Nintendo for regurgitating sequel after sequel of their top franchises, and not being as revolutionary technology-wise as nearly everybody here seems to believe. Ironically, the Mario and Zelda series have evolved and matured far more dramatically than the Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter games. I can't understand you patch, but I'm glad to hear that you haven't totally shunned the ol' cube ; )
And @ MDL. At least we know you have taste when it comes to some games. You 'loathed' Sunshine, fair enough, it's accessability was a problem for many, but trust me, it's rewards in gaming pleasure are the very reason why I play games in the first place. And just because you hated Sunshine, that doesn't warrant your loathing of people who don't. And now let's all hug... nice... now take of your shirt... lovely.
I couldnt give a stuff about Mario and countless Jap style games. I dont want to swing my bloody arm around trying to play tennis... I am not asking for exercise when playing videogames!! Christ.
Yes, good on them for trying something a little daring but it'd be nice to play some original and well crafted games, something none of the contenders seem to have hit on. As for the annoying corporate mumbo, please save me
If I loved the games Nintendo has been rehashing for the past billion years I might want to buy a new console and play them with a new controller and slightly better graphics. But I dont.
If you think what sony has done with their pad is "similar" to the wiimote, you're either:
a) stupid
b) a fanboy who hasnt even seen the wiimote being used.
Apparently Miyamoto is going to play games with that 'stupid controller' wouldn't really call the most influential game designer in the world stupid....
And I've no idea how plagerism is 'absolute genius' I'm sure Einstine copied his mates homework all the time....
Do you think it'll launch in Europen in 2006?
*head explodes*
pure of heart gaming
HOORAY!
That racing game looks pretty shit, TBH although it's a launch title and I think it's more about getting across the message of versatility in the controller, rather than the game itself.
You say that like it's a bad thing. I'm honestly only after the games as thats all that really matters.
If they scrapped the wii and all those games were availible on the cube with the wiimote I'd still be a happy bunny.
On the plus side they are releasing a console more powerfull than the cube with access to a large retro catalogue, for somewhere in the hundred quid region.
erm, fcuking right top banana ninty!
It was expected it wont be on par with the 360 but common Nintendo at least the graphics should be twice as good as the old xbox.Maybe it is I dont know,but it didnt look like it.
If it aint that is fair to say Nintendo did a mistake here.How expensive can 5 year old technolige just be.
09-May-06 19:31:49 Alright sorry, I apologise gentleman and, if MDL is to be heeded, ladies. I'll try to resist such puerile urges in future.
But I am interested to know, if we could give the 'hilariousness' a rest, what games MDL and patch are playing these days, and what would they consider their favourite games of all time. I ask because I get the sense that you were both sadly deprived of the wonderful experiences Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, M Sunshine etc. had to offer...
BTW. Nice comment captainrentboy ; )
I've played all the games you've mentioned and absolutely loathed Super Mario Sunshine and found Wind Waker very dull as well. Ocarina of time is the best Zelda game but I've never really felt drawn to the story particularly.
Favourite game of all time? That would be Resident Evil 2.
Games i'm playing right now? Resident Evil 4(PS2 version - i've already completed it on the Cube), Devil May Cry 3, Burnout Legends (PSP), Virtual tennis (PSP), Football Manager (PSP and staggeringly good), Half Life 2 (Xbox) and an obscure Japanese horse racing game called G1 jockey which is actually incredibly good fun when you understand it.
Then you'll look like a doofus no matter what console you are playing.
Good for you.
If Sony had released a ps2 (which has better graphics than most Wii games i saw) with the exact same motion sensing pad as their next gen console it would have been a joke
just goes to show Nintendo have really lost the plot this gen - give it a year or 2 when developers really start heating up on ps3 and 360 and the nintendo pad capabilities are common on both those consoles
A Wii will be mine on lauch. (And a PS3 to replace my ageing PS2 - provided the emulated backward compatibility handles the Burnout series.)
Okay back to topic...i am looking forward to the next gen games...man the new way to play thing is really nice! Very athestic way of looking at games. If one was to judge games purely on the dictionary definition of 'games' then this matches perfectly...Ninty bring back the fun! Yay you already have haha... As a media marketing student, Wii actually suits the console...sounds a bit cr*p at first, but makes u wonder, and i am literally going Wiiiii on this...man too excited, gona grab a cuppa
But I am interested to know, if we could give the 'hilariousness' a rest, what games MDL and patch are playing these days, and what would they consider their favourite games of all time. I ask because I get the sense that you were both sadly deprived of the wonderful experiences Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, M Sunshine etc. had to offer...
BTW. Nice comment captainrentboy ; )
Ninty absolutely killed Sony in that presentation, even if Reggie was pulling cringing one-liners one after the after.
09-May-06 19:21:57 Haha patch...tell you what me and you have a bet, who can impress the most girls within 30 minutes with what ever needs possible...All i goto do is show em the Wii (argh okay maybe not the name) and play some tennis then whoom! Girls on the go...haha whats your method?
Who knows what his method is but it can't be any f*cking worse then yours that's for sure!
I predict a life time of masturbating over second hand copies of Razzle for you neonlok!
(p.s i am letting you reply)
You must be fucking euphoric then.
After all, in a lot of game the controller is the real world counterpart of a game object anyway, so the more it can actually be the thing and respond like the thing, the more convincing the illlusion will be the the less there's left of the barrier between input and effect.
Sound has a large subconscious effect anyway. This might be a very big, though hard to be aware of, element to the experience.
'we would like to make something like tetris viable again'
Hell yes!
still in shock with the nonsense I just witnessed - a 'revolution' in gaming ????? where?
stupid little men on a tennis court - graphics to rival the psp - a control that makes you look an as.s (don't ever play a Wii with any female in sight) - im still in shock - hype about a game that has been 5 yrs in making that was ment for a last gen console - a controller that mostly acts as a light gun with a speaker inbuilt - did i mention looking like a doofus while playing a Wii game ( the general public already thinks gaming is childish, this is the icing on the cake to that theory)
uncool
Any place, any time ladies!
09-May-06 19:04:13 MDL199, we're all very sorry that God gave you such a small penis
Your mum never complained and neither did your sister!
now fuck off!
Mario Galaxies hurrah
Are you talking to me or trying to insult someone?
Every time Nintendo release a new piece of kit you wet your little Mario emblazoned Knickers with excitement and proclaim it to be the best thing ever and everytime it turns out to be a total F*ck Up!
You sad little nerds may be in the majority on gaming web sites but out in the real world nobody really gives a flying f*ck about Nintendo especially a console that has the most ridiculous name ever!
There's only one position the wee wee console will occupy when it's released and that's rank last place and by a long, long way as well.
Sad, little bastards the lot of you!"
So, you dont like ninty then?
Does anyone know where PatchBox is???????
SUCKERRRRRRRRRRRR'
LOL, quiet, we don't want him to know we're here.
Every time Nintendo release a new piece of kit you wet your little Mario emblazoned Knickers with excitement and proclaim it to be the best thing ever and everytime it turns out to be a total F*ck Up!
You sad little nerds may be in the majority on gaming web sites but out in the real world nobody really gives a flying f*ck about Nintendo especially a console that has the most ridiculous name ever!
There's only one position the wee wee console will occupy when it's released and that's rank last place and by a long, long way as well.
Sad, little bastards the lot of you!
As for Red Steel, I agree the gfx were decidedly lacking. However, from what we've heard, it's still v. early in dev. I imagine it will get the spit n polish for launch.
An entirely different control method is a fairly major innovation though.
All the games in Sony's presentation just looked like God of War with slightly fancier graphics.
i think i may have been won over.
It was funny when the competition winner starting kicking their butts near the end.
Oh by the way, Gamecubes graphics looks lush in some games already so i aint complainin.
Hm..one word describes my feelings at the moment....
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
Sheer delight and joy.
Zelda and Mario and Samus. Holy shit Batman!
No Smash Bros though
And, for gaad's shakes, polish the graphics up on those other titles. Yikes.
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Screenshots of games from the conference - Mario Galaxy looks fantastic
Induced amnesia!
I unsure about the control system, but if they showed of any interesting games, i would have been tempted to give it a try.
Hopefully they will show ooff some desent game at E3 2007, i might have a look again then.
They played surprising well the tenis game considering they were playing on a tiny screen at the bottom of the stage.
This is the time for a reporters first impressions!
I want juicy detail tomorow, now pls go to sleep early for the big day tomorow. I want the first update au 9:15...
the ps3 stuff granted looked very cool, but is was much of the same old. this is something totally new!
Unless Microsoft has something 'big' up its sleeve (hey, maybe a 200 pound price cut!).
Now I must have a Wii.
I'm used to the name, but that's just asking for it.
or not..
That was really good though...Is the microsoft one tonite aswell??
can't have everything i suppose
Graphics looked poo.
shame.. Ah, who cares about gfx?
Fnar.
How much stuff are you gonna break doing that in your living room..no wonder they arent backing HD TVs..
/claps
Hutt out
!!
exclamationton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yoshi's Island 2, Zelda DS, Star Fox? I need to poo again.
Brilliant.
"controlling path of boomerang with stylus."
Thats more like it.
EDIT: awwww beaten
YOSHIS ISLAND 2
Zzzzz...
Cue the Beatles jokes!
Well done ninty.
Red dead rvolver style
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for that!
Didn't really expect anything else. After all, Nov 11 is Q4 as well...
Nintendo have head my prayers!
Fuck me - I'm enjoying this!
Hurrah!
The Wii remote has a built in speaker?!
nice!
Now THAT is a nice touch.
zelda is playable at the show on wii only [no gamecube or gba at all at the show] but its on a gamecube disc
So it's not GC?
wii launch title??
what???
nope- read it wrong : )
(ZELDAR!)
!!!
Ah, this explains a lot.
Did Princess Peach stand you up?
Did Zelda date you but screw your best friend?
Did Toad try and kiss you behind the bike shed?
I want a Wii NOW
AAAAARGH!
LITERAL HONEST-TO-GOD NOSEBLEED!
pissheads - hahaha
ur bad language is unnecessary Mrs Wit
i knew i shouldn't have downloaded IE7 beta....
In a skip.
heh yeah, he can make it a double act with Carrot Top...
You obviously have no interest in nintendo, and you are obviously blinded by your own sense of stupidity.
In short:
"OMIGAWDZORS LYK MY CONSOL IS LYK WAY BETTER THAN UR MUM IN BED"
Oh and yay its started!!!
In a skip.
...
IT'S A TRAP!!!
Yes
'MEH'
Well, it's only Nintendo, innit?
seen it all before but never owned the machine or truly experienced it fully inorder to come to a viable conclusion - nintendo fanboys always stuck in their ways or down a pipe
enough of Smelly Wii
Eurogamer in ruined Nintendo technical demonstration horror
(Nooooooo! misses my birthday!).
welcome to the desert of the real"
omg your an emo fag! i cant stop laughing after reading that.
good boy skippy your a class act.
Got it streaming. I ain't doing this by halves.
I BET
no
and no
ARSE
THINK ON THIS!!! -
"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."
i HAVE NOT SEEN WATER IN ANY PIPE IN MARIO!
I think it's because the younger people havent been around enough to realise that just making things prettier doesnt make the games better.
What i find REALLY funny though is the kids who a few years back were telling us "gfx dont matter" (when they owned a ps2) but are now stating it to be the most important thing! lol
After years of playing games, i got the feeling of "meh" from sony's presentation - VERY pretty games, but seen it all before.
I want FUN!!! And im hoping it's about to come!
Well, sock or just plain mongoloid, doesn't matter either way.
I'll never play nintendo again, and people like patch can sleep happily in their beds knowing that's one less person playing these totally unfun uninnovative games. '
ur eyes have been opened, it's good u took the red pill
welcome to the desert of the real
Then why don't you do that er... smelly face.
And another thing: Let's all stop encouraging patchbox shall we?
first time poster
this is very exciting
1) Shotgun shell
2) Wavebird shell
3) lightsaber/sword shell
4) Golf club
The crowd will simply faint in ecstasy
This doesn't really fit into the perception many people have of Nintendo x)
LMFAO : You know, i've never thought of it like that. I bow down before your knowledge, and I acknowledge that you're perfectly right.
Nintendo ONLY make the same games over and over again, and they're totally not different!
I realise now that i've never enjoyed a nintendo game, because they're kiddy, and old tech, and the games are the same all the time.
I'll never play nintendo again, and people like patch can sleep happily in their beds knowing that's one less person playing these totally unfun uninnovative games.
*lol*
/registers "Kutaragi120fps" and "Itsawii-Mario!" socks
/writes script to post "Disrupt!" repeatedly.
nah.
Which means it'll do well in catholic countries such as Italy where Sony pissed off the chuch with those '10 years of passion' adverts...
nintendo make rehash same old games and their fans love it
if nintendo were worth the salt they would have sold N64's and Cube's and wouldn't be lagging behind the newcomers into the industry - they are a shadow of their former self
don't get mad with me get mad with the facts
peron.
The PS3 meanwhile will be able to have the computational power of 250 Xbox360's - and that's just from one USB port! And dont forget, with HDMI connectivity (exclusive to PS3) you're also be able to connect it to your mama - and control her anywhere from within cyberspace!!! And don't get me started on the new tilt function - tilt your PS3 controller and outside world tips with you!! FTW!! And BluRay will allow you to watch movies - in holo3D! 1080p that Kidtendo!
Nintendo are making the Wii out of old recycled nun's knickers.
always just my luck aint it... it'll be bang on time.
kanga thats a great pitch for a game! Chipshop Fighter II !
Any outsider would think that gaming has to be the most miserable and cynical hobby on the planet. "Enjoyed" by people who can only get any sense of true entertainment by rubbishing the opinions of others. I bet fans of curling and horse riding don't cat-fight like this everytime a new bloody brush or saddle comes to market.
I'll have to just stop reading the threads for a few days, same as I did when the 360 hit the shops, until proper discussions re-surface again. If I want to watch kids fight I can go stand outside a chip shop at 8pm.
Rant over. Man, this grumpiness is infectious stuff isn't it.
;P"
Touch
Wasn't it delayed by 45 minutes last year?
;P
Like endless racing games with prettier graphics you mean?
WAHEY! For the FIRST TIME EVER. I've used the "ignore poster" button.
I mean, i'm prepared to argue with the most ardent of fanboy, but he's just out to try to provoke a response.
Either that or he REALLY IS a clueless blinkered fanboy who'll slag stuff off without knowing owt about it.
Unless they're used socks.
Then they're just smelly.
Only say good things about Xbox, per chance?
He's not a fanboy though. He's just a sock.
K
lol patchycommonsence!
so yesterday nobody has a clue what it's going to be like yet!
I was one of those suckers, but I would've been awake at that time anyway.
I really, really hope we see a 2d Metroid for the DS, and a decent price point for Europe.
u wait a tad longer for a huge leap in quality
Those are the only games I have played, if that's of any help Matt.
Relax cos it doesn't make a difference on a system with specs barely over xbox 1 capabilities
Wii = yesterdaygen
Mario,
super smash bros,
metroid
mario tennis
zelda
warioware
same old, same old
Sock!
Wii uses full sized dvd's, just like the xbox does.
This can't be worse than the Sony conference earlier.
If they show even half of these games i'll be happy (Espec new mario):
Mario,
super smash bros,
metroid
mario tennis
zelda
warioware
(waves to all the suckers who also watched the Sony conference live)
Don't rub it in
xbox 360= 6-months-ago gen then?
Also how many Wii mini cd disk would it take to fit a game like Oblivion
Wii = yesterdaygen
(waves to all the suckers who also watched the Sony conference live)
LOL, you said Matt ; )
Yeah, swearing's great. It's therapeutic and essential in life when one encounters comments such as these:
'I won't trust a company that names it's console 'Wii' and that has hyped people at launch with their last two console revelations, failing each time horribly to follow through.' - PatchBox360
Stop talking shit patch m'boy.
See?
EVERYONE SHOULD DO THEIR HARDEST TO OUTWIT THEIR MARKET OPPOSITION THROUGHOUT THE NEXT GENERATION SURELY CULMINATING IN AN EXPANDED AND INNOVATIVE CONSOLE MARKET
It works for the EU doesn't it? Woo-hoo!
Personally, I can't wait for Wii. It will probably be the first videogame I can play with my girlfriend, my mother, a 5-year old child and my friends, all at the same time. And they won't feel stupid or confused doing it. Fantastic stuff.
Erm, but that'd mean microsoft almost having a monopoly? Who wants that?
Hope you and smoisson get along in my ignore box!
I'm going to change my profile name to SuperSonyTilt128 - what do people think?
story of all nintendo fanboys - they always need a second console
Alls they have to do now is prove that the "wand" isnt just a gimmick, by showing that it actually enhances gameplay and that its not just a fancy way of making you swing your arms about like a dick...
And then put it at the
hah ah aha ha ha
Like shoulder buttons? Or an analouge stick? Maybe the rumble pack?
Not really revolutionary but just taken on by the rest of the industry as a whole.
It's certainly started off the same way!
Excitement forces Razz to relieve himself in the comments section...
But then again we still havent reached the point where graphics cant be improved at all (so basically photo realistic) , so maybe the next next gen eh?
Yes but its hardly surprising that people expect "next gen" graphics from erm....the next generation... is it?
/puts CD
"... if a picture paints a thousand words..."
/every journo in the place puts up hand
'....any questions that arent a stupid joke about the name?'
/every journo in the place bar one puts hand down
'Yes?'
'.....no, seriously, what were you thinking?'
*journo is beaten to death with Wii controller while, in real time on a bank of monitors, link flails around like Jimmy Corkhill after a handful of Disco Biscuits*
highly unlikely
nintendo pads and hardware innovations of past have been far from revolutionary - maybe thats why they changed the name to Wii at such short notice
http://img.photobucket.com/album
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Did you write that all on your own or did someone help you?
gyroscope =/= Wiimote.
/smacks bat into hands and chants...
"BRING IT ON! BRING IT ON!!"
/faints
this will be confirmed very soon
Guess my England hat will have to do. I'm sure I can mock it up with some sort of finery.
/puts on Nintendo hat for the afternoon / evening
Voodoo Wii Revolution
/flies around comments section
/dances and prancys like a fairy
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