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Bastard of the Old Republic Article

Retro PC Xbox Article by John Walker

22 March, 2009

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Later, when exploring the surrounding area, I spotted a droid encircled by Kath Hounds, looking in trouble. Not out of kindness, but simply because the game enters combat mode when you get too close to the hounds, I defeated all the attackers. Beasts destroyed, the droid explains his situation. He had run away quite deliberately, as a result of his mistress taking that title a little too literally. Rather than grieving for her husband, she had transferred her feelings onto the droid, and was attempting to have a relationship that was clearly inappropriate with a robot. Deciding that this was the best thing he could do for her, the droid had tried to get himself killed to force Elise to move on. Noble, brave. I remember making the difficult decision to help the droid fulfil his wishes, and killing him, then going back to Elise to tell her he was dead. It was a terrible moment - she was distraught, destroyed, and I was sure I had done the wrong thing. Until later in the game when I met her again, and she seemed to have finally moved on in her life. I had made a real difference.

This was not for Simon Evil. Simon Evil did something very, very bad. I could have ordered the droid to return home, and left the woman to continue unravelling in his bemused company. That would have been pretty dreadful. But I found a much... better option. I decided I would kill the droid, but right before doing so, tell him that I'd be sure to go back to Elise and let her know he was still out there, and she should keep looking for him. The droid's last words were cries of astonished misery. Mission and Carth, after voicing their shock, dutifully helped me take him down. "You asked for this!" I went back to Elise to let her know there was still hope, he was out there, and she should go find him. Job done.

I think this might have been the point where I snapped. Once I got into the dispute between two local families, the Sandrals and the Matales, I noticed that the squirming and reeling in reaction to my decisions was beginning to fade. In fact, when I was forced to apologise to someone in order to get the mission going, I was becoming most perturbed.

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See how I could have told her the truth? See how I didn't?

Here's the deal with those families. The son of Nurik Sandral, Casus, had gone missing. Nurik's convinced he's been kidnapped by rival Ahlan Matale. Soon after, Ahlan's own son, Shen, went missing. The Jedi Council had been asked to intervene with the escalating dispute, and Simon was dispatched to... help.

Neither family is particularly helpful, but inside Nurik's home I spoke to his daughter, Rahaisha. She begged for my help, telling me she had a secret she must share. Picking the cruellest option, I dismissed her and told her I had no time for her stupid, petty concerns. Bastilla was horrified at my attitude, the girl was upset, it was business as usual. But unlike so many encounters, it didn't let me continue with the task in spite of my rudeness. If I wanted to mess these families, I was going to have to bite my lip and apologise to this woman. Apologies mean Light Side points, something I was committed against, and had so far avoided. Dilemma. Thankfully the game is so splendidly written that even in apologising, I was able to be such a dick that by the end of the discussion the game declared I'd scored both Light and Dark points. A reasonable compromise.

Played Light, you can find that Shen is being held captive by Nurik, and the daughter wants you to rescue him, and help the two of them get away from the increasingly unhinged Nurik. I went along with things this far, convinced I would have to go back and reload once these actions turned me all nice or something. As the two fled from the house they were suddenly confronted by both families, along with their platoons of soldier droids. Here with your carefully chosen words you can reconcile the two families, help Nurik to accept his son's disappearance has nothing to do with Ahlan, and probably have bluebirds land on your shoulder while bunnies gambol at your feet. Or, it turns out, you can tell Nurik that Ahlan killed his son. Oopsie.

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Me and the girls. The increasingly horrified girls. Look at my excellently evil goggles.

The scene that follows is glorious. Ahlan is enraged, and with a nudge can be prompted into revenge, shooting Ahlan's son dead. Spinning around to Nurik I cried, "Are you going to stand for that?!" He is not, and he fires at Rahaisha. And then all out war breaks out, the two families slaughtering each other, leaving me with just a couple of droids to polish off.

And I loved it. I laughed. It was just so rewarding. My actions, even involving the slightest compromise, had allowed this dreadful situation to escalate out of all control until everyone involved was dead. When the Jedi Council each asked me about what could have possibly happened, how a simple dispute I was investigating could have ended in such bloody horror, I revelled in lying to them about it, each falling for my ludicrous claims of innocence. "I guess it must have been Mandolorians!"

Oh my God. I'd turned to the Dark Side.

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Pedrolot
22/03/09 @ 08:47
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LOL at the title..
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22/03/09 @ 08:56
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starting to enjoy it eh :)
Raymeister
22/03/09 @ 09:10
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Brilliant article sir. Cracked me up. This type of thing is what sets Eurogamer apart from the crowd. Look forward to the next installment of Simon Evil's adventures.
stuarty_2003
22/03/09 @ 09:28
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Good banter, that.
Jocho
22/03/09 @ 09:49
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Have noticed the same thing playing the dark side - first a distancing from my actions, then laughing at it, then accepting it, not thinking about it and, after shutting down, being scared by my own development by a "simple" game.

Looking forward to coming episodes, as well.
Bloodhunter
22/03/09 @ 09:57
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i might get this again, just cos i was light when i 1st had it

great article, hk-47 ftw!
hokuto_no_rob
22/03/09 @ 10:12
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Excellent reading.
munki83
22/03/09 @ 10:14
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The game is so much fun playing as a dark jedi but i felt really bad when i robbed the woman in Tatooine. Oh I never played through the sequel as a bastard, me thinks its time to dust it off and start being a bastard of the old republic.
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22/03/09 @ 10:25
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I never play these things evil. ME, KOTOR I was a good hero, just like real life!

Although I did like beating grannies in GTA for some reason....

Anyway top read, KOTOR is B/C so I may stop off to hunt it down on the way home this morning
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22/03/09 @ 11:18
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"Tattooine is surprisingly absent of overtly awful things to do."

What? The genocide of the entire sand people population isn't an awful thing to do? Tatooine was the one place that made me feel really guilty for playing Dark Side.
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22/03/09 @ 11:30
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I absolutely loved reading this, highly entertaining -- I'm very much looking forward to part two.

I can remember playing KOTOR ages ago and trying to be evil for a bit, but I just couldn't sustain it and in the end, the most evil thing I probably did was making Bastilla wear some kind of S&M-type garb I came across for the rest of the game.

It doesn't surprise me that I barely scraped the surface of the game even though I played it to the end... I might have to dig it out and give it another try.

Whilst I know it's not the point of the article, how does it fair up on modern hardware?



DarthInsinuate
22/03/09 @ 11:41
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If I remember correctly, at some point in the game you have a conversation with Carth asking him why he so gleefully assists you murdering innocent people. He just claims it's your "evil influence".

I wish you could get evil points for making him walk in to battles with no weapons or clothes.
HolyJebus
22/03/09 @ 11:47
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You do realise all this evil game playing will effect your conscience and eventually turn you into a murderer in the real world. Is it worth it, IS IT?
botherer
22/03/09 @ 12:26
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@roBurky - I didn't really see it that way. It was three fields, and one camp. I slaughtered my way through one camp of them, but figuring planets to be pretty big, I'd say it was quite a ways of genocide.

@chrisc - I keep being surprised how pretty the game still looks. There are a couple of issues with hardware, and it crashed a lot for me at first. I then did the following fix and it seemed to stop.

Find the swkotor.ini file in your installation directory, and under [graphics options] add the line:

Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1
Transcendent
22/03/09 @ 12:31
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John Walker: While it's fun to read about the comical evil in an old mainstream Bioware game, I'm worried that articles like this pull what little attention exists away from classics like Planescape: Torment where you probably wouldn't even stand to look at some of the evil options.

There's also the Mask of the Betrayer expansion for NWN2 where you among other things can take the souls of everyone of your companions and forge them into a powerful amulet. :D
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botherer
22/03/09 @ 12:44
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@Transcendent - like I said in the Dark Forces comments last week, if I could get Torment to work without crashing every time someone cast a spell, I'd be pitching it to EG at a million miles an hour.
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22/03/09 @ 13:13
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Yay! \o/

One of the few RPGs I've played through twice, first as good and then as evil. But I managed to keep the Jedi lass from Dantooine alive both times ^___^
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22/03/09 @ 13:25
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He he, this article is great! Out of 21ish years of gaming, KOTOR is probably one of my favourite games ever, I think I played it through about nine times with different standard and jedi classes, switiching between good and evil on each different playthrough. HK-47 has to be one of the best videogame, or indeed Star Wars characters ever, better than anything George Lucas himself has thought up within the Star Wars universe in the last couple of decades [Jar Jar Binks, cough wink]. I think Simon Evil is going to enjoy his trip to Korriban....
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Just make sure you have Canderous and Jolee Bindo with you when you go to Korriban for the first time. I remember their dialogue being particularly awesome at that point.
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22/03/09 @ 14:00
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HK-47 is not the evil equivalent of Comic Relief. For a start he manages to be quite camp and funny. Something Alan Carr misses by a country mile. That and he doesn't repeatedly spout comic diatribe through your speakers and then present you with an image of someone dying on your screen. Admittedly it's usually Alan Carr again, killing his own career on live TV, but there were some genuine people in need of help as well.

Now take that back immediately, HK-47 is much funnier, you evil bastard.
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22/03/09 @ 14:12
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Great article, and the previous one. I have just started playing KOTOR - my backlog is huge - and finished the first planet. Now I realize that I have been playing it all wrong!
AphoticCosmos
22/03/09 @ 14:20
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Going to be replaying KotOR again thanks to a) The Old Republic \o/, b) finally having the time to do it, c) this article!

Great read :D I was always unfailingly good except for my few deliberate darkside playthroughs just to see how bad of a douche I could be. Even as someone who is traditionally nice to people in games, I did find the darkside options creatively ebil and fun >:)
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22/03/09 @ 14:29
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Awesome. I want more Simon Evil :D
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22/03/09 @ 14:37
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kotor is the game that (almost) screenburnt the health/force bars into my new plasma at the time i played it so much
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22/03/09 @ 16:05
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Another great journal entry, but there's one mistake, which is made very commonly. Carth is not a rebel. He is a Republic soldier.
The Rebel Alliance doesn't exist.
Ninja_Tino
22/03/09 @ 17:14
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I replayed KOTOR and KOTOR II after the first article, as a real bad ass, naming myself myself 'Sonny Evil', (not original, but Evil goes great with any forename) and had such a blast. So much so, I have adopted that persona in real life and having an even bigger blast.
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On the "running on a modern machine" side of things. The main thing that throws up problems is having more than 1 CPU or more likely more than 1 CPU core. To resolve start the game then hit Ctrl-Alt-Del then find swkotor.exe (or whatever it's called) in the processes tab of your task manager, right click and hit "Set Affinity..." and uncheck all but 1 cpu. This should resolve any problems. (you can tell by looking at the cursor, if it's flickering in game you'll have to do this)
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22/03/09 @ 19:39
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The original article inspired me to buy both KotOR I and II for the PC, since I've only ever enjoyed them on X-Box (and never owned a gaming capable PC, until now).

Even after Mass Effect and other RPGs, KotOR is so far ahead of the majority of Western developed RPGs, it's astounding. Is it due to developer incompetence or purely because KotOR is such excellence that it can only occur rarely? I'd say it's a bit of both.

Nice article!
Futaba
23/03/09 @ 05:10
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FAO: All of you commenters saying you didn't play the dark side in KOTOR...

You're missing out on so much of the game, and so much fun. My real self is not a shard on how my ingame character acted (#1 sadisitc guy in the galaxy), but I still really enjoyed doing it. Maybe I should see a doctor? I played the lightside on my second playthrough and it was nowhere near as fun as the darkside.

Also, the most evil thing you can do in game HAS to be making the wookie kill mission with your force powers.

Now THAT'S evil. I bet you chicken out of doing it though...if you're truly becoming evil you'll prove me wrong! ;)
spacedmonkeys
23/03/09 @ 09:09
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Never even played the game, and have skipped over the previous article just because it was KOTOR related (yawn).
However I'm so glad I read this! "You asked for this!" almost made me splutter my tea out and the whole article put me in a good mood for the rest of Monday! Going back to read the first one now :)
andywilkie35
23/03/09 @ 09:20
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Great article John - makes me wish they'd do a KOTOR 3 rather than a MMO!
Jonny5Alive7
23/03/09 @ 10:03
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Excellent, I really laughed reading some of this. Can't wait for the next episode of Simon Evil's adventures!
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23/03/09 @ 10:44
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HK-47 is not the evil equivalent of Comic Relief. For a start he manages to be quite camp and funny. Something Alan Carr misses by a country mile. That and he doesn't repeatedly spout comic diatribe through your speakers and then present you with an image of someone dying on your screen. Admittedly it's usually Alan Carr again, killing his own career on live TV, but there were some genuine people in need of help as well.

Now take that back immediately, HK-47 is much funnier, you evil bastard.


I think he may have meant comic relief with a lowercase 'c' and 'r', as in the narrative construct rather than the increasingly unfunny but oh so worthy BBC telethon.
Evolution
23/03/09 @ 11:55
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Fantastic, can't wait for the next one.
moggsy
23/03/09 @ 13:08
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These articles are brilliant :-)
Daryoon
23/03/09 @ 14:31
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I never got the point of having those "moral choices". It always comes down to a single choice affecting the plot, nothing else really matters.

Would be so much more interesting if they'd programmed in some extra paths and endings. If Chrono Trigger could do it...hell, choose your own adventure books could do it!

Would make things far more interesting if you weren't just heading along the same path, just with dialogue changes.
guernican
23/03/09 @ 17:24
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Well-written stuff. Inspired me to buy the damn thing.
bad09
23/03/09 @ 18:01
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"choose your own adventure books could do it!"

Christ I haven't heard anyone mention those in YEARS! Steve Jackson. Ian Livingston. GODS!

My favs were Deathtrap Dungeon, Forest OF Doom, Trial Of Champions and House Of Hell. :)

/ rolls, wounds the creature, subtracts 2 points from its STAMINA score. feels 8 again.
Emilia'sHorse
16/04/09 @ 19:20
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Only just discovered this article, was offline for a while. Caught the first part, this is even better. Thank you, can we have some more?

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Why did you kill Juhani you noob? she makes an excellent minion to torture.

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