Microsoft: Xbox 360 exclusives need "quality" not quantity

By Tom Phillips Published 23 January, 2012

Bemoans Sony "selling old franchises with HD remakes".

Xbox 360-exclusive games need to have "quality and impact", Microsoft Studios exec Phil Spencer has insisted.

Creating Xbox 360-only games and IP is about more than the "number of releases in a year", Spencer continued, explaining Microsoft's strategy on securing exclusives for the platform.

"Creating core IP, as many first-and third-parties have seen over the years, isn't an easy thing," Spencer told GameInformer (via GamesIndustry.biz). "I went through the process of creating Gears with Epic and I know the sweat, time, and effort that went into it."

Microsoft has unannounced partnerships with other developers, Spencer said.

"So it will continue to be something that we focus on with new partners like Crytek and new people that aren't announced yet. We do think that it's fundamental that core gamers look at 360 as the place they want to play games."

Crytek Kinect game Ryse is currently being developed exclusively for Xbox 360.

Unlike Sony, Microsoft focuses on new experiences for Xbox 360, rather than reviving old franchises through HD collections, Spencer said.

"They've done a great job at selling old franchises with HD remakes," Spencer sniped, mentioning that Microsoft does not want to sell gamers something they have completed already, despite the success of 343 Studio's revamped Halo: Anniversary last year.

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  • felastica #1 4 months ago

    *cough-tony hawk-cough*

  • felastica #2 4 months ago

    *cough-cough-beyond good and evil-cough-cough*

  • MojoDex #3 4 months ago

    Hypocrites!
    Edited by MojoDex at 23/01/12 @ 09:45

  • PinktotheLast #4 4 months ago

    I think Microsoft have a long way to go before they match Sony's contribution to the games industry. The PS1 basically defined the way modern consoles are developed, and the number of development studios Sony has directly or indirectly funded is seriously significant.

    I think Microsoft need to be a bit more humble.

  • GAmbrose #5 4 months ago

    Fair play to Microsoft, that is good news for gamers really.

    I like the hypocrisy summation in the last paragraph though ;)

  • Skooch #6 4 months ago

    "They've done a great job at selling old franchises with HD remakes," Spencer sniped.

    Tut tut, bit hypocritical considering Halo: Anniversary, also a little childish Phil. Now go find someone to make something exciting like the Last of Us as a 360-exclusive please, I am bored of Forza, Gears and Halo...however great they are.

    (360-only owner)

  • menschenfracht #7 4 months ago

    Guy is basically lulz-baiting.

    'We have all these wonderful exclusives we won't announce'

  • FogHeart #8 4 months ago

    If the games sell well, review well and the players enjoy them, where's the problem? And there's no doubt that the HD remakes of games like Shadow of the Colossus were sold to a lot of players who haven't played the original. I'm sure that there are plenty of XBox games that players wish were remade in HD. Hang on, forgive my ignorance, but did Halo get some HD rework recently?

  • AgentCool #9 4 months ago

    I disagree. I'd like to see more HD collections of classic titles as long as it doesn't get in the way of new exclusives which, with regards to Sony, doesn't really seem to be the case.

  • Labatyd #10 4 months ago

    Less ill-conceived talk and more action please. You can start by cutting down on development studio blunders like Bizarre Creations.

  • Okamiwolf #11 4 months ago

    Meanwhile, don't mind us while we repackage the same old Halo game yet again.

  • telboy007 #12 4 months ago

    "But its ok if those HD collections come out on the 360." he failed to mention. :D

  • Zomoniac #13 4 months ago

    Microsoft Game Studios' entire output for 2011:

    Forza Motorsport 4
    Gears of War 3
    Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
    The Gunstringer
    Disneyland Adventures
    Dance Central 2
    Kinect Sports: Season Two

    A few very good games, certainly, but I can count the number of ground-breaking new game experiences and IPs on a closed fist.

  • seeafish #14 4 months ago

    This should kick off Monday's flame wars nicely! However, before all that starts, doesn't the PS3 generally have more exclusives per year than the 360 and aren't they usually high quality, rather than "HD remakes"?
    Not including PSN games or remakes, 2011:
    * Uncharted 3
    * Killzone 3
    * InFamous 2
    * Motorstorm Apocalypse
    * Little Big Planet 2
    * Resistance 3
    * DC Universe Online
    ...that's all I got for now, but I might be missing some.

    All the above (except for DCUO) I personally loved.
    AFAIK the only major releases on 360 were Forza 4 and Gears 3 (correct me if I'm wrong, but please don't include XBLA titles).

    Anyway, there's quality on both sides and execs need to stfu with their childish slurs against the competition. It's kind of annoying.

  • RedSparrows #15 4 months ago

    To be fair, it's not as if every Sony IP is groundbreaking.

    Still, willy waving et al.

  • Tyranix #16 4 months ago

    Kinect.

    That is all.

  • Deano_98 #17 4 months ago

    I'm really looking forward to the MGS, DMC and FFX HD remakes this year
    I'm not looking forward to Ryse on Kinect though I'm afraid

  • scuffpuppies #18 4 months ago

    They can say what they want, but Sony's amazing exclusives are the reason to own a PS3.

  • bumyoghurt #19 4 months ago

    I know why you do it, but WHY EUROGAMER, WHY can't you have an article that isn't a primer for a flame war?

    P.S lol @ failolstation etc

  • kirankara #20 4 months ago

    Was highly disappointed with repurchase of 360 this year, having gone year without one. I caved after setting rave reviews of gears 3, and whilst I thought it was an improvement, it got tiresome quickly. managed to get almost to end by playing Co op before giving up, but still can't honestly say,I think the series is great, just good. I'm not into reaching games so forza bypassed me completely. The only thing to justify my purchase so far has been Alan wake and skrim and bethsedas incompetent programming

  • leighbeynon #21 4 months ago

    halo anniversary anyone ? fable 1 on the market place, tomb raider, splinter cell, devil may cry, odd world, ok some of these are not MS exclussives but they have their share of remakes available, look at Nintendo it practically lives off the same games for the last 20 years, mario kart, zelda, mario, these games are all the same zelda is a prime example.

  • MattRobson #22 4 months ago

    I haven't brought an Xbox Exclusive game for a LONG time. I almost feel obliged to buy Halo Reach but as i have had to force myself to finish the previous titles i really can't be bothered... same goes for Gears of War.

    might pick up Fable 3 soon mind.
    Edited by MattRobson at 23/01/12 @ 10:16

  • The-Bodybuilder #23 4 months ago

    Microsoft: Xbox 360 exclusives needed
    Fixed.

  • Kikizosan #24 4 months ago

    "They've done a great job at selling old franchises with HD remakes," Spencer sniped

    Note that it's Eurogamer who added the word 'sniped'. The interviewee may have actually been positive about what he was saying, and he'd be right to be. Sony have done a (mostly) great job at doing this. Some of the HD remakes on PS3 have been great. The Halo Anniversary remake was too, and Microsoft should be looking to both emulate that and continue striving to make new experiences. They're not mutually exclusive.
    Edited by Kikizosan at 23/01/12 @ 10:10

  • Metal-Militia #25 4 months ago

    Make some games and let them do the talking.

  • BigDannyH #26 4 months ago

    @seeafish

    I don't really disagree with your point but why do you not include PSN / XBLA? They both produce some good stuff.

  • StooMonster #27 4 months ago

    *cough* Halo: Anniversary *cough*

  • Ranger101 #28 4 months ago

    @PinktotheLast Very short sighted statement there.
    Microsoft's many, many multiple failures throughout the years have taught other companies how NOT to do stuff in the games industry, and for that their contribution should be recognised.

    Shame on you.

  • Tyrhinis #29 4 months ago

    I really don't care about exclusives, I care about getting good, innovative games on my 360. Microsoft are not delivering on that front, Bastion aside, because they're concentrating on Kinect - and while I own Kinect, I don't think it's ready yet. The difficulty in a game should be from the game not the controller, and as yet, that isn't the case.

    I agree with AgentCool - HD remakes are nice so long as they aren't a distraction from making the next Mirror's Edge or Crackdown. At the minute, neither MS nor Sony are making innovative new games; at least Sony are getting something out there, even if they are eight years old!

  • bumyoghurt #30 4 months ago

    I literally can't think of any console exclusive games I would want to play anyway- Halo is just ridiculous, I remember laughing the first time I played it and saying "THIS is it??" pew pew pew nonsense. Forza and Grand Turismo are for stale, odd car weirdos. Uncharted is some kind of really weird 12A action film for Christians, a family romp. Nah, not for me.

    The best games come out on all consoles, because they are the best.

  • seeafish #31 4 months ago

    @BigDannyH Indeed they do! Some of my favourite games last year were PSN/XBLA. I was just trying to keep it simple and only mention major releases. Besides I really can't remember any exclusives that came out on PSN/XBLA (Hamilton's Great Adventure... I think!). Not sure what to compare.

  • leighbeynon #32 4 months ago

    @Tyranix not sure your getting negatives, its clear where the money for exclussives went, kienct development well buying someone elses idea and making it your own, then port over wii titles done!

  • lolercopter #33 4 months ago

    Unlike Sony, Microsoft focuses on new experiences for Xbox 360, rather than reviving old franchises through HD collections, Spencer said.
    Bullshit. The lack of worthwhile retail exclusives on the Xbox 360 is alarming. Why? I ended up getting a PS3 two years after I got the Xbox because the "no gaems" system turned out to have Uncharted, Yakuza, Heavy Rain, Valkyria Chronicles...

    This kind of PR makes me ashamed of supporting the Xbox 360 and Microsoft with my money.

  • Widge #34 4 months ago

    @Deano_98 ffx is confirmed as this year??

  • seeafish #35 4 months ago

    ...does anyone else get the feeling that eurogamer posts these articles then sits back to watch us argue... while doing an evil laugh...
    "Argue away minions. MWUAHAHA"
    /sad

  • leighbeynon #36 4 months ago

    @Tyrhinis i think demon souls is very good, the last of us, last guardian to start with, nintendo are more guilty than anyone they remake the same games over and over, they dont know what new ip means

  • menage #37 4 months ago

    What is this guy talking about. Releasing one Halo (A HD remake for god sakes) and a Forza a year is the only thing MS does on the big boy front. At least Sony's output is actually decent.

    MS just doens't have enough backlog to pull the same stunt. So now it's a "quality' issue. But Fabvle 3 kinda ruined that statement imo. Rushed piece of shit.
    Edited by menage at 23/01/12 @ 10:24

  • ZizouFC #38 4 months ago

    *cough-cough-cough*

    Sorry. I'm sick.

  • Biker_Bob_1971 #39 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 15:13:21 09-05-2012

  • NotSoSlim #40 4 months ago

    How many remakes are releasing on 360? Said this before MS are turning into Sony of last gen

  • KongRudi #41 4 months ago

    HD-remakes are great if you want to try something out wich you missed previously.
    Sony is a long way from beeing as good as Microsoft at marketing, but giving their consumers lots of new and varied games, they're definately far ahead of Microsoft.

    This statement from Microsoft Game Studios, would sound more plausible, if you didn't have to wait 8-10 months between each exclusive retail-title wich don't require an accesory, and their releases covered more genres. :-/

    It's like David Jaffe said; Show me something wich never get's old, and I'll show you a person masturbating'.

    It's not that they shouldn't care about quality, but they couldn't ignore the quantity.
    Edited by KongRudi at 23/01/12 @ 10:36

  • kirankara #42 4 months ago

    @leighbeynon but they make fucking brilliant games , end of .

    You should also quite rightly point out several genres and entire new way of interaction with gaming, that Ms and Sony quickly copied too.

    Mario galaxy 1 &2 had enough innovative ideas to differentiate then and justify them as separate games in their own right too.

  • Darren #43 4 months ago

    Between the Xbox 360 and PS3 last year, I felt the latter had a broader and more interesting selection of exclusive games than the former even without including Kinect/Move games (neither of which interest me at all anyway). So what if some of those exclusives on the PS3 were HD remakes; more choice, is better than less after all and at least my PS3 was actually used more as a result than my Xbox 360 was (which seems to going to the same way as my Wii at the moment and gathering dust...).

  • DrStrangelove #44 4 months ago

    Microsoft: Quality, not quantity.
    Sony: Quantity and quality.

    Nuff said.

  • NotSoSlim #45 4 months ago

    Also maybe MS should let Rare actually make a game?

    Lack of first party games will come back to haunt them imo

  • anthonypappa #46 4 months ago

    aren't all the AAA 360 first-party titles from the original xbox era?

    sony create great new franchises each generation... saying it's "not an easy thing to do" is pathetic frankly... at least try.
    Edited by anthonypappa at 23/01/12 @ 10:45

  • UncleLou #47 4 months ago

    He's the boss but is totally clueless about his company's and the competitor's portfolio, that's quite impressive in its own way. :)

  • Shakey_Jake33 #48 4 months ago

    Well, people want the HD remakes.

    Conversely, people are less enthusiastic about Kinect games, the increasingly-unbalanced emphasis on the 360 being an all-in-one entertainment box, etc.

  • blarty #49 4 months ago

    @seeafish without a shadow of a doubt, I see a worrying trend with the sensationalism lately

  • GAmbrose #50 4 months ago

    @anthonypappa

    Out of interest, What are Sony's original first-party AAA titles? Buying a studio after they create a successful game doesn't really count.

    Killzone was originally made for Playstation 2 and Guerilla Games weren't aquired by Sony until 2005. Little Big planet was developed by Media Molecule who weren't purchased by Sony until 2010. Insomniac games who made the Resistance series aren't owned by Sony. Sucker Punch Productions who made InFamous 1 & 2 weren't bought by Sony until late last year (2011) and Evolution Studios who made Motorstorm in 2006 weren't bought by Sony until 2007.

    Really it's just Uncharted isn't it?
    Edited by GAmbrose at 23/01/12 @ 11:03

  • Matthew_Hornet #51 4 months ago

    I can't empathise with a man who describes the inception of a new game world as 'Creating core IP'. Presumably he then intends to 'monetise' it through 'brand leverage'.

  • des #52 4 months ago

    Backward compatibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remakes

    Sony HD remakes sold like crap but on the other hand they are dirt cheap to make.

    FF7 remake lol--nobody would give a shit except few diehards

    As for next gen,give me proper BC and then we can talk.In short market has spoken,remakes=meh

  • Triggerhappytel #53 4 months ago

    So basically, this is MS's excuse for having fuck-all exclusives? That's weak. Sony have lots of excellent first-party exclusives (on disc and PSN), brings last-gen games respectfully up to date with high quality and reasonably priced HD collections, and continues to invest in new IPs. So that's three ways in which their output betters MS's.

    But hey, at least they get a month exclusive on COD map packs, right?!

  • Chrasomatic #54 4 months ago

    None of this excuses them from allowing Rare to run themselves into irrelevance - they could have so much great original IP and instead they have Wii Sports Kinect.

  • BellyFullOfHell #55 4 months ago

    MS has Cave shooters, and therefore wins.

  • irve77 #56 4 months ago

    @GAmbrose

    By the same token what are Microsoft's first part games. Turn 10 , Bungie , Epic, Remedy, Silicon Knights, Lionhead, ensemble Studios ? all independant or bought after they started making games for MS

    @anthonypappa

    They do try
    Alan Wake , Too human , BLue Dragon , Ninety nine nights , Crackdown , Kameo, Viva Pinata.

    However unlike sony they give up. Sony throw sequel after sequel at us if we want them or not it's why we have Resistance 3 , Motorstorm 5 , Killzone 3

  • anthonypappa #57 4 months ago

    @GAmbrose - sony believes in their studios. they don't just buy the franchise IP once they've seen it was successful. they actually buy the studio - the people behind the work.

    where's bungie? they bought the halo franchise - don't need them anymore. where's bizarre creations? dead. where's rare? that's actually a good question. they were once glorious, now? stuck on kinect duties or something.

  • menage #58 4 months ago

    Resistance 3 was awesome though

  • Brev2034 #59 4 months ago

    i couldnt really care less about exclusives has long has the games that come out are quality

  • Monkeyspoon #60 4 months ago

    Sony has more exclusives both in superior quality and quantity because they invest more money in studios. They have the largest studio portfolio than Nintendo and Microsoft combined. Of the top of my head they have naughty dog, media molecule, sucker punch, Santa Monica, studio Liverpool plus studios elsewhere. They are unrivalled Microsoft can't hope to compete and where stupid enough to sell the studios they had like bizarre and bunjee.

  • theonlyix #61 4 months ago

    @anthonypappa Well MS did a timed exclusive on a studio, but it seems Bungies management had a condition - that they went independent after xxx years. IP stays with MS (that has marketed it properly and taken good care of it, and 343 seems to do good with it i hope, with H4 for starters).
    Bizarre creations was killed of by (i believe) Activision, not MS. MS was interersted but acti took em. Rare has made 2 of the best games of the last 2 years, namely Kinect sports 1 & 2 which are really good games. On top of that i believe they have made much of the avatar stuff on the 360, but sure, id like some more rare magic (im looking at you grabbed by the ghoulies).

    The trick isnt to BUY studios, as good people can leave anytime they want, just look at the infinity ward-activision debacle. If you OWN someone, you arent on equal terms and therefore you could be considered the "bully", but if you are in a mutual agreement like MS and Epic / Crytek then its a win win. Also, buying studios only show that you would do anything to keep games from a majority of gamers......

  • Po1ymorph #62 4 months ago

    To be a "executive" in the games industry, is it a prerequisite that you have to be able to talk absolute bollocks?

  • anthonypappa #63 4 months ago

    @theonlyix - "Rare has made 2 of the best games of the last 2 years, namely Kinect sports 1 & 2 which are really good games."

    chuckle. not so sure if this was supposed to be sarcastic, however...

    look at rare's output under nintendo. now look at rare's ouput under microsoft... enough said?
    Edited by anthonypappa at 23/01/12 @ 11:46

  • Toothball #64 4 months ago

    It's true that a console needs a selection of high-quality games that are exclusive to the platform, otherwise there isn't a compelling reason for a gamer to buy that console over another one. But while it's easy to be cynical about this recent series of HD remakes, I'd rather see good games from the past retain some presence in the current generation than to have them forgotten. Isn't there room for both quality exclusives and history lessons?

  • apoc_reg #65 4 months ago

    Not been an Xbox exclusive I wanted for a long time. Ps3 has taken over as my no. 1 console these days.

  • Bawlsz #66 4 months ago

    So Redoing 1 game, Halo a 10 year old game is equivalent to 5 or 6 HD remakes which most are at least 5 year old games.

    But honestly I want more HD remakes from Microsoft, Voodoo Vince, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio Future, Conker's Bad Fur Fay (again).

  • tankboi #67 4 months ago

    Aren't they making (or have already made) a Halo remake?

  • Porcupine_I #68 4 months ago

    Right! Quality is exactly what they need!

  • Chrasomatic #69 4 months ago

    To be fair to Rare - Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts is a great game even if what we want is a more traditional game instead. Also M$ had a great year for Exclusives in 2010: Splinter Cell Conviction, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Monday Night Combat, Halo Reach, but 2011 was awful not only for boxed exclusives but XBLA also had a crap year IMO, apart from Fruit Ninja (which I got free with The Gunstringer - 2011's best M$ exclusive) pretty much nothing else was worth buying - happily they seem to be turning this around this year.

  • spekkeh #70 4 months ago

    I see what you did there MS. It doesn't need a quantity of quality exclusives, therefore there are no quality exclusives.

    Anyway if this doesn't change my love affair with my xbox will be a one console generation kind of thing, and I'm going with Nintendo and Sony for the next one.

  • sfp_noodle #71 4 months ago

    Isn't MGS HD already out on the 360? What about Devil May Cry HD? Resident Evil 4 HD? Code Veronica HD?? Beyond Good and Evil HD??? Etc etc.

    Sounds like sour grapes to me. Sony just has a hell of a lot more quality franchises than anybody else. They have done HD classics very very well. They are not just "HD'd" up. In most cases frame rate has been doubled to 60 or locked at 30 for a much more stable experience. Widescreen support has been implemented, trophies added, loading times improved, and various other noticeable improvements.

    Also, Sony package at least two or mostly three games at a time and charge no more than £25 for the set. Last time I checked Halo Anniversary HD cost £30, only has the ONE game and only had prettier graphics. No frame rate bump, and no A.I improvements since the game was released 10 years ago. Plus they tacked on Halo Reach's MP component from a year ago to make people feel they were getting more than they were. So what are they charging £30 for!? At least Sony actually have a very strong back catalogue to dip into plus it's value for money.

    This is just another idea that MS would love to copy but really really can't. Out of the original Xbox, Halo is the only franchise that would make money for MS and they've tried doing that with Halo and it hasn't really worked out.

  • alcides #72 4 months ago

    translation: He's sweating like a hooker in a church because there are no games on Xbox360.

  • King_Edward #73 4 months ago

    Quality or quantity. Microsoft does neither.

  • Badassbab #74 4 months ago

    Microsoft- Please no excuses we want more exclusives and we recommend you invest in more first party studio talent. It's the one thing PS3 has a significant lead over 360 and it's a good reason why the gap went from 8 million a couple of years ago to around 4 million now.

  • floppylobster #75 4 months ago

    This sort of rampant bullshit makes me nostalgic for the old Sega vs. Nintendo days...

  • slivir #76 4 months ago

    I loved my PS2 but hated my xbox, then with the release of the current generation I flipped and loved the 360 but hated my PS3. With the current dearth in xbox exclusives and focus on kinect my preference is back on PS3 once again.

    If MS hope to sway me into buying their next console they have to improve their exclusive software lineup.

  • Syrette #77 4 months ago

    All well and good, but the exclusives/new IPs are generally Kinect games.

  • weebl #78 4 months ago

    "They've done a great job at selling old franchises with HD remakes," Spencer sniped
    Just because they've got heritage and you haven't mate. If you had games worthy of being remade you'd be all over it.

  • tankboi #79 4 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x

    'so what'? Haha well I guess I know which fanboy minused my comment!

    My question was genuine. I didn't know if they had actually made it or not, but my point was simply that he is contradicting himself if it had.

    I don't give a shit about Sony or MS so please don't think I am trying to poke.

    'MS vs Sony' is such a bunch of hyped up media BS to get all the fanboys riled with rivalry and loyalty. It's such an old trick...and it keeps being gobbled up, which results in boosted sales for them, of course. Just like they planned.

  • Syrette #80 4 months ago

    @anthonypappa

    Bizarre wanted to remain independent and their demise has nothing to do with MS. Bungie wanted to split which is fair enough.

    Not half as simple as you're trying to make it sound.

  • tankboi #81 4 months ago

    @LaFlamaBlanca

    Yeah same thought as me, except (ready for some troll-poking) most the XBOX exclusives are out on PC, so technically not exclusive. Sony exclusives, however, are truely exclusive.

    I don't give a shit either way, but just sayin' ;)

  • MrEuroTrigger #82 4 months ago

    Xbox 360 and Games for Windows almost "have no gamez" now and it is all Microsoft's fault!

    X360: Where are new MechAssault, Crimson Skies, Brute Force!?

    GfW: Where are new Age of Empires, Flight Simulator, Freelancer!?

    First MS betrayed PC gamers then Xbox gamers...

  • liamaland #83 4 months ago

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  • Hindle #84 4 months ago

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  • Nukemasta #85 4 months ago

    Which HD Remakes are playstation exclusive? God of war and....?

  • ChuckNorris #86 4 months ago

    for shame

  • charliemouse #87 4 months ago

    Blinx HD announcement imminent.

  • PierrePressure #88 4 months ago

    Some fair comments there but you know MS would kill to have just a fraction of the history the PS1/PS2 had.
    Not that MS should worry this generation, it's in the bag for them. A combination of a strong early couple of years and Sony's implosion when the PS3 was first introduced has meant that it is now Microsoft in pole position.

  • Matthew_Hornet #89 4 months ago

    @LaFlamaBlanca High quality ACTUAL X360 exclusives (meaning not on PC, which almost none of the Sony ones are)?

    Gears of War 2 and up
    Halo 3 and up
    Forza 2 and up
    PGR 3 and up
    Crackdown

    There you go.

  • TheTingler #90 4 months ago

    Great! Now... what exclusives are these? I don't own a PS3 and I'm staring at the 360 release schedule wondering what else barring a potentially lacklustre Halo 4 (new unproven team) and a download-only Alan Wake there is to buy. Oh, and Kinect stuff, which can sod off.

  • inutaihanyou #91 4 months ago

    Corporate suits say the darnedest things don't they?

    I wish they would all just sod off.

    From EA to Activision to Sony to Microsoft

  • hiddenranbir #92 4 months ago

    Yeah they did remake Halo but all in all, they aren't relying on remakes to stay relevant in the business still. Sony are, cause they are shit.

  • makeamazing #93 4 months ago

    Alan Wake and Dead Rising were the games that made me get an Xbox... but other than that, there is absolutely nothing i want from the games that MS makes.

    Also whats the problem with HD remakes. This MS guy seems to think that we have all played these games in previous console generations. I didnt play splintercell, Lara Croft, God of War on the previous consoles.. was too busy playing other games... so for me its great, that i can try out games that i didnt play with better graphics. Thats Good, not a negative.

  • TFM_Excalibur #94 4 months ago

    That's because Sony are releasing the remakes people want.

  • Slipstream #95 4 months ago

    Well there's nothing more to say. The vast amount of hypocrisy in this statement has made it redundant.

  • inutaihanyou #96 4 months ago

    To be clear. I love my Xbox and my 360 and i can't wait for the nextgen.

    I also love my PS1,PS2 and PS3.


    All i'm saying is, Corporate hacks who just want to make "statements" about their product doesn't play well on anyone at all really. I'm a big Xbox fan(looking forward to Halo 4), and i believe that Microsoft should not be leaving the core fanbase who actually brought Xbox into relevance with core games out in the cold because of chasing some Nintendo like a dream that they won't ever achieve.


    I am not blind to Microsoft's relevance to the console industry. They helped create the first console to use actual internet connect-ability and online play(no not Xbox, Dreamcast). And cemented Xbox Live as a standard for future consoles with the success of Halo 2, a core game. So why can't they actually understand that they need to support that part of the base?

  • Bullet_Tunnel #97 4 months ago

    my gang of billionaires are better than yours, so there!!!!

  • Bulbatron #98 4 months ago

    360 owner myself, but it's always struck me that Sony's exclusives seem to be not only more numerous, but higher in quality as well. And I rather like HD Remakes.

    My main reason for owning a 360 is that the multi-platform releases nearly always seem to be better.

    But Microsoft really need to work on their range of exclusives - and I don't just mean Kinect games.

  • CHAZBIGPOTATO #99 4 months ago

    That Halo 4 video looks awesome

  • obidanshinobi #100 4 months ago

    Lets face it, you would have to be a complete idiot not to own both a PS3 and a 360 this generation if you could afford to.

    PS3 for blu ray films, storing downloaded films and music and some great exclusives - Uncharted series, Infamous series, GOW3 to name a few.

    360 for Mass Effect 1 (better than ME2 IMO), Gears series and Forza series (was a huge fan of Gran Turismo but GT5 was disappointing, thank god for Turn 10!!) and also the 360 for most cross-platform games - Bethesda games (Skyrim, Fallout3 and NV), RDR, GTA4 to name a few.

    Having both consoles rules !
    Up urs fanboys !

  • Gimpy_Wonderland #101 4 months ago

    Yeah, they can try to pretend that Sony are only providing quantity with their HD remakes, but Sony do at least have a plethora of other games to back that up. All Microsoft pushed put last year was Forza 4, Gears 3, and Halo Anniversary.

    They're really in no position to criticise anyone.

  • pigsy2400 #102 4 months ago

    LOL,...my copy of God War HD remake must be a figment of my imagination then lol

  • arcam #103 4 months ago

    Stealth negger:

  • eminusx #104 4 months ago

    I have absolutely no loyalty to Microsoft, why should I, yes I own a 360, but if they move away from the core gamer in their next iteration, and there arent any worthwhile exclusives then i'm gone.
    I think people need to be less about blind patriotism as it were, think more about what they actually want from their games system, and vote with their wallet!

  • _LarZen_ #105 4 months ago

    So you should do like Sony with the PS3 then?

  • theonlyix #106 4 months ago

    @LaFlamaBlanca Im with you on this

  • Subdominator #107 4 months ago

    Conker Live & Reloaded, Banjo Kazooie XBLA, Banjo Tooie XBLA, Halo CE Anniversary ... hmmmmmm

    I think what he meant to say was "We weren't successful at reselling updated old games so we won't do it in the future". Which is a good thing. All those remakes and HD remixes are just signs of an industry that lacks creativity. If the best you can come up with is to do what has been done before you should quit your job and walk away. Remakes are worse than CoD sequels.

  • theonlyix #108 4 months ago

    @Matthew_Hornet PC should have all games, imagine how pissed people would be if all those xbox games ONLY came to xbox and not pc. They share development platform so of course they should be on both. Sony cant do that because of their pos developer kits and desperate tries to make their console the gaming platform(=cash). If this was the other way around, im sure you would have counted those games as Sony exclusives....

  • theonlyix #109 4 months ago

    @LaFlamaBlanca Wow, it almost feels like you are a second account im keeping handy here for these kind of discussions!! i second all you just said!

    I was sooo darn looking forward to GT5, but after playing forza, GT5 just didnt cut it - also, they charged me for prologue first, and then full price for the game. Fxxk sony for making people pay for demos!

  • Subdominator #110 4 months ago

    @eminusx MS isn't stupid. They do stuff for the casual now because that's the only customers where they can still grow (all those Wii owners that want a HD console). The next Xbox will be as core as the last two were at the beginning, cause that is the only group of people willing to pay the 350+ pounds the next gen will cost at launch. And there will be the right games for those people.

    If Sony was in Microsofts position they'd do the exact same thing. The only reason why PS3 is still getting lots of exclusives is because it's the only thing Sony has to differentiate themselfs from Xbox 360, which is the leader for multiplatform games.

    Of course Microsofts coming games will all be Kinect enabled. But it will be optional.

  • theonlyix #111 4 months ago

    @obidanshinobi I have both, not fond of bluray though, so PS3 sits unused (actually a friend borrowed it and its now not used at his place) because there just isnt any need for booting it up. Almost all multiplatforms are better on 360.... and the few good ips thats only on my ps3, well they just arent games you play alot. Maybee once through, but thats it. They just dont have any real killer games anymore, they are still in the ps2 age gameswise (but admitted with far better graphics).

    They dont get people hooked like MP games on 360 does.....

  • theonlyix #112 4 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x Red dead on PS3 was AWFUL. I hope noone bought that version over the 360... Blaming the inferior memory on the ps3 for that...

  • Inmediasress #113 4 months ago

    The funny thing about this is that M$ neither provided quality nor quantity.

  • Matthew_Hornet #114 4 months ago

    @theonlyix I'm not sure what you mean. DC Universe is not a Sony exclusive, for example; it's on the PC. If it's on another platform it's not an exclusive. Look, this isn't exactly rocket science.

    I suppose X360 does have a lot of exclusives if you define 'exclusive' to exclude all the other platforms that have those games. You see what I mean?

    PS I don't have a horse in this race - or if I do, it's the PC. The only sensible platform for Bethesda games, incidentally.

  • bcxixa10 #115 4 months ago

    F**K YOU MS. I want Games, not shooters and racing. I choose my first console the PS3 and only this year i bought my 360. Im glad ive made that choise. Heavenly Sword, Metal Gears, Heavy Rain ,LBD, Motostorm, God Of War, Resistance , Uncharted, Killzone. I know that they sell a lot, and LIVE its a good service ( but a pay service ), but i believe that gamers want Games. This years Best xbox360 game was Batman ? WTF? What quality ? In a year with Gears, Forza, Halo remake, its a multi game that wins this category ?

  • riseer #116 4 months ago

    @bumyoghurt What a stupid post...i am at lost of words..

  • riseer #117 4 months ago

    I really don't get these PR reps.Mr Spencer Microsoft has failed to bring enough first party games since the 360 launched.Making HD remakes isn't a bad thing as long as it is done right.You guys should worry about your first party studios.Sony has you beat hands down on their first party games.

  • RevanNL #118 4 months ago

    Well dear Mr Microsoft, I do think it's important to offer a wide range of quality exclusives. The 360 has been my main console during this generation, the last couple of years I only used my PS3 for the exclusives (and as a mediaplayer). However, the last couple of months I find myself playing on the PS3 more and more. I now have a tendancy to buy multiplatform games on PS3 as well. Perhaps it's because of the shitty dashboard update that made me realise that MS main concern is Kinect, video and TV and not games.

    Gears of War 3 was great, but Forza 4 felt like it became a tired franchise, just like Halo. And no, the attempts of MS to let everyone think that Kinect is the shit have failed, it's just shit.

  • riseer #119 4 months ago

    @theonlyix Blame the devs not using Ps3 as it's main platform.

  • FuzzyDuck #120 4 months ago

    @Nukemasta

    God of War and The Sly Trilogy, Ico/SotC, Splinter Cell Trilogy, Stranger's Wrath, Wipeout, Jak and Dakter, Tekken Tag Tournament...

    Thing is, i don't care who makes the box of silicon and plastic under my telly, all i care about is the games. I own A PS3 and Wii, but not a 360, so go figure.

  • riseer #121 4 months ago

    @theonlyix I use my Ps3 everyday,been playing Motorstorm Apocalypse and the beta of Starhawk.I avoided buying the 360 since the thing launched.Their's zero first party support,you say their multiplatform games are better..that part may be true,but it's not to the point you need a 360 to play those games. As we seen before games like Dead space 2, which ran and looked the same on both systems.Makes my point,that you don't have to buy a 360 to enjoy 3rd party games.The reason i bought a Ps3 over a 360..First party support..the very same reason the Nintendo loyalist bought the Wii.You say Sony doesn't have any killer games anymore...then what does Microsoft have then...Kinect games..thats about all i can think of.

  • riseer #122 4 months ago

    @obidanshinobi I choose not to buy a 360,i could careless about Halo,Gears,and Forza.Why buy a console with no first party support.I can't wait till Starhawk and Twisted Metal.Microsoft fails to realize that having a strong first party lineup is valueable at this stage in a console's lifecycle.You can't sell graphics anymore it has to be completely about games.Something Sony has always been good at.

  • Abdu@EG #123 4 months ago

    More exclusives, Sony.

    More, more, more. MORE! Muhahahahahaha.

  • riseer #124 4 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x No it's a stupid anaology..plus you forgot Motorstorm,LBP2,

  • Stepharneo #125 4 months ago

    If the HD remakes are such a waste of space then stop worrying, no one would buy them if they were just a waste of space. If you are worried that even old Sony games will sell better than your new IP's then maybe make better new IP's.

    Note: I'm not saying that any new IP from Microsoft is necessarily worse than anything from Sony, just pointing out that if they are worried then that is their problem.

  • carlosdfn #126 4 months ago

    Wow, what a joke. Nobody has created more new franchises this gen than sony's studios and most of them are very high quality, if that's your defence for the lack of interesting AAA exclusives on the 360 you really need to try harder.

  • The-Jack-Burton #127 4 months ago

    What a stupid thing to say. The HD remakes made by Sony are of a high quality. They're great, and many fans had been clamoring for those remakes to be made, so Sony listened to them and obliged, which is a good thing, not a bad thing.

    Isn't MS responsibly for producing an entire years worth, 2011, of shovelware for Kinect, when they sat their and lied to everyone's faces and said Kinect is for the 'core'. And then mad a Halo HD remake. Fuck you MS.

  • Lunatic4ever #128 4 months ago

    aw...fuck off already. By new experiences u mean what? Lame ass kinect?

    I'd be willing to spend some money on revamped classics! Sony's approach to ICO&Shdow of the Colossus and God of War was amazing. Too bad, those title are not for the xbox :S

  • gruntboy #129 4 months ago

    Phil Spencer. Phil Spencer... Isn't he that bloke off Relocation Relocation?

  • drhickman1983 #130 4 months ago

    As an owner of a 360 but not a PS3, I can honestly say the PS3 has more exclusive IPs that appeal to me. Not many more, but a few.

    I'm quite happy with my 360, and most games I play are multiplatform anyway. But if I was choosing entirely on exlcusive IPs, the PS3 would win, just.

  • des #131 4 months ago

    This gen has certainly created lots of bitter sony fans...

    720/PS4 articles will be fun to watch:)

  • Snake_2011 #132 4 months ago

    this clown has no idea.

  • Kygzab #133 4 months ago

    I'm new here and like Eurogamer already, no American majority to be raving about 360, like on many other sites. I don't own either console, but later this year I will most likely go for PS3, only shmups are making decision hard for me. PS3 will get Twisted Metal, The Last of Us, Starhawk, Journey, The Last Guardian, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, Dragon's Crown, Tokyo Jungle, many other Japanese exclusives etc. At the end of the year it's raping 360.

    I can also play already released stuff I want to play; Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, Folklore, 3D Dot Game Heroes, Yakuza series, Heavy Rain, Little Big Planet, Gundam Extreme Vs., MGS4, Wizardry: something, Pixeljunk series, Motorstorm series, Disgaea series, Uncharted series, Warhawk, Initial D, Wipeout HD, Modnation Racer, Level-5 RPG's, Everybody's Golf and Afrika. Not my cup of tea necessarily, but I could try Resistance series, Killzone series, God of War 3, Atelier series, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Infamous series, MAG etc.

    I'm missing a bunch, but those I could come up with little thinking. Now when I look at it, I would definitely get PS3. I can even play Asian version of Red Seeds Profile (Deadly Premonition). 360 has only Forza, Alan Wake, Lost Odyssey, Cave shmups and some XBLIG games that would interest me and a monthly fee to play online. GoW and Halo are comparable to Killzone and Resistance to me, none are really shining over another. Kinect... I'm not ready to pay that much for Dance Central peripheral, no matter how alluring it would be. Panzer Dragoon, maybe, but it would be better to control with WiiMote or Move, or just analog stick. Same with Steel Battalion, there's already the awesome controller for original Xbox, impossible to implement well on Kinect. I don't believe it before I see it.

    Yes, I read up way too much on consoles I don't own, but at least my standing is somewhat objective. Your genre preferences may differ. XBLA is strong-ish point, if you don't have older consoles, or aren't willing or able to emulate them on PC.
    Edited by Kygzab at 23/01/12 @ 22:46

  • Dave52 #134 4 months ago

    "Unlike Sony, Microsoft focuses on new experiences for Xbox 360"

    Errr... Halo, Gears and Forza have been the best exclusives XBox has had to offer. XBox has loads going for it but, if it's exclusives you're after, it's difficult to fault Sony.

  • TazerFan #135 4 months ago

    GossipGamer strikes again! I'd like to see this community *not* turn one of these sensationalist headlines into a 200+ comment shitshow for once.

    What do you expect the PR wing of a for-profit business to say?

  • kimchibaka #136 4 months ago

    Ironically the only exclusive I'm desperate to play on a 360 sometime is the Perfect Dark remake.

  • Cheeseasaurus #137 4 months ago

    I like the HD remakes, particularly since I've got the chance to pick up games I never had the chance to play such as God of War and Ico.

    Also, FFX and MGS within the next few months? It's almost enough to see Skyrim returned to the box for longer than 4 hours again.

  • man.the.king #138 4 months ago

    @GAmbrose
    Out of interest, What are Sony's original first-party AAA titles? Buying a studio after they create a successful game doesn't really count.

    Killzone was originally made for Playstation 2 and Guerilla Games weren't aquired by Sony until 2005. Little Big planet was developed by Media Molecule who weren't purchased by Sony until 2010. Insomniac games who made the Resistance series aren't owned by Sony. Sucker Punch Productions who made InFamous 1 & 2 weren't bought by Sony until late last year (2011) and Evolution Studios who made Motorstorm in 2006 weren't bought by Sony until 2007.

    Really it's just Uncharted isn't it?
    Making up your own set of narrow criteria to exclude as many Sony-exclusive games from the list as possible to make yourself feel good about your console of choice?

    Bravo.
    Edited by man.the.king at 23/01/12 @ 19:53

  • obidanshinobi #139 4 months ago

    lol at negs for my previous comment #113.
    This site is getting worse than LensOfTruth for fanboyism.
    I admit I was a Megadrive fanboy during the MD/SNES days.... BUT THEN I GREW UP !!

    In the words of Eric Cartman - screw you guys, I'm going home.

  • xuiton #140 4 months ago

    is this a joke? they have 3 exclusives.

  • albinas #141 4 months ago

    @obidanshinobi I negged you because you named not a single reason to own both for me and called people idiots for not doing so. And I see you grew up by flaming and lol'ing about negs.

  • DurzoBlint #142 4 months ago

    The 360 has plenty of exclusives, they just don't want to cop to the fact most are for Kinect.

  • cloudskipa #143 4 months ago

    Halo Anniversary is far from a HD remake as seen on the PS3. It was fully remade with additional game modes. I don't think that can be compared.

    The other games mentioned in this comment page like BG&E and Tony Hawk are not exclusives nor published by Microsoft so get your facts straight before pointing the finger.

  • cloudskipa #144 4 months ago

    @JAGUARCD32x yep, anyone who writes MS like M$ makes it too obvious what angle they're coming from... maybe we should all start writing $on¥?

  • Snake_2011 #145 4 months ago

    cloudskipa it was a remake the same as any other! accept they were to tight to put 2 in the box as well.
    Edited by Snake_2011 at 24/01/12 @ 03:00

  • Snake_2011 #146 4 months ago

    plus if MS have this guy behind them no wonder there losing touch with gamers.

  • Badassbab #147 4 months ago

    @cloudskipa

    I totally agree with you about the Halo HD remake being more than just a 'up the res' and 'double the frame rate' effort we've seen from others BUT it was still a disappointing effort. The game engine they used wasn't good enough (variable frame rate and constant repeat textures which is fine in it's original mode but not on the updated graphics) and they picked a developer who don't exactly have a chequered history of great games. And why no 'remastered' mechanics as an option to being it up to nowadays Halo standards? Missed a major trick there. What should have been sitting in the high 80's or in the 90's on Meta is only in the lowly 80's.

  • frazzl #148 4 months ago

    @riseer You do realize that this is just your opinion and it is no more (or less valid) than theonlyix's? I for one prefer 360 exclusives and out of all the PS3 exclusives listed by Sony fanboys earlier on, I have only purchased and enjoyed Infamous 2 (which was not a day 1 purchase btw). It is a simple case of different strokes for different folks.

    As for the rest of you Sony fanboys, perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is. Instead of being keyboard warriors on game sites like this, you should spend some money on your much vaunted Sony exclusives. Say what you want about 360 exclusives, but they do tend to sell better than their PS3 counterparts.

    *Edit* Perhaps the author should try to editorialize a bit less. This is such blatant fanboy baiting.
    Edited by frazzl at 24/01/12 @ 00:17

  • cloudskipa #149 4 months ago

    @frazzl Agree, I also prefer the Xbox exclusives. I've owned all machines this gen and the PS3 was the machine sat gathering dust so I sold it. I re-bought another one some time after that to catch up on some exclusives that I missed out on and then resold it again for the same reason. The PS3 is a cool machine and it does have some good exclusives, but many of them I find overrated and/or inferior to the 360's "equivalent". Not hating, just sayin'.


    Another big reason why 360 is my main console aside from it's exclusives and generally better multi-platform games is XBLA and THIS is where a lot of MS exclusives are these days. Riseer made a comment implying you don't need XBLA if you can emulate on a PC but that's false as the only games you would emulate are the old Sega MD or Arcade games which make up only the very the earliest of XBLA releases. There are some cross platform releases you can play on Steam but they generally do not include anything like the best XBLA has to offer. These days XBLA game are high quality and there's a lot of cool exclusives heading to XBLA this year that personally speaking, I'm way more excited about than anything coming to PS3 this year.


    A lot of people seemingly want to try and give the impression that the 360 isn't about core games anymore and that MS only care bout Kinect and casual/family games. BOLLOCKS. Exclusives or not, 360 has a killer line-up this year for any hardcore gamer. There's just so much hate directed at "M$" and this superb console on EG these days it's ridiculous, but I'm convinced most of it comes from insecure Sony fans.

  • cloudskipa #150 4 months ago

    @Badassbab I disagree, I thought the graphics engine was nothing short of stunning and the game is superb fun. A perfect tribute to one of the best FPS games made.

  • frazzl #151 4 months ago

    @cloudskipa Well said. Back when I was a kid with a NES and then a Mega Drive fanboyism was never this bad. Sure I had a preference, but I would not have complained if someone had given me a Master System or a SNES. Every console, even the shitty ones, have at least 1 title worth trying. I guess that's one of the biggest negatives about the Internet; giving a voice to millions of muppets who sadly share our hobby.

  • Folant #152 4 months ago

    360 and PS3 owner. Probably prefer 360.
    However...

    FFX HD?

    Shut up and take my money...

  • Snake_2011 #153 4 months ago

    frazzl because how you think is right? you sound like the fanboy to me.

    cloudskipa why would anyone who likes Sony more be insecure they have all the great games you will get on 360 plus a load of exclusives.
    Edited by Snake_2011 at 24/01/12 @ 03:11

  • Abdu@EG #154 4 months ago

    @Folant
    I just hate this "Shut up and take my money" posts.

    Motheafukas

  • cloudskipa #155 4 months ago

    @frazzl Yeah and we were kids back then too! Sure we used to poke a bit of fun at our best friend's console/computer of choice but these days it goes far beyond that and worse still a lot of it is carried out by grown adults. How can a gamer dislike, let alone hate a games machine?

    Another funny thing when discussing exclusives is people's definition of "hardcore" games...

    Allegedly, despite releasing Gears of War 3, Halo Anniversary and Forza 4 late last year MS have no exclusives and only care about Kinect and causal games. Yet the PS3 receives supposedly "hardcore" titles like Uncharted 3 and Resistance 3 etc, but I regard Deathsmiles, DoDonPachi Resurrection, and the upcoming Sine Mora and Akai Katana Shin (all 360 exclusive) to be more "hardcore" than any of those titles, yet these people are telling me MS don't care about core gamers anymore? please..

  • Snake_2011 #156 4 months ago

    cloudskipa clutching at straws comes to mind.

  • frazzl #157 4 months ago

    @Snake_2011 Let's take opinion out of the conversation and deal with facts.

    1) Big corporations like Sony, MS and Nintendo don't hold our best interests at heart. They want our money and will get it any way they can.

    2) If you are a gamer you enjoy playing videogames. Videogames are available on a multitude of consoles. Therefore it's more than likely that for any console available you'll come across at least one game worth playing.

    If this viewpoint makes me seem like a fanboy so be it. At least I am not an idiot like you :).

  • Snake_2011 #158 4 months ago

    frazzl if games are what you like then would it not be best to own the console that has all the games? or both like I do but halo 4 Witcher 2 is all my 360 will get to play this year sad. if you feel like a big person calling me a idiot go for it internet hard man.

  • Snake_2011 #159 4 months ago

    JAGUARCD32x you come on here constantly saying stuff that is not even right do not feel sorry for me you do not no me. sorry but it was just a HD upgrade that let you go back to the original. plus they could not get the resolution upscaled to proper 720p.
    Edited by Snake_2011 at 24/01/12 @ 22:51

  • DRUNK3N-_-DRAGON #160 4 months ago

    @Skooch you need to be a ps3-only owner lol

  • frazzl #161 4 months ago

    @Snake_2011 Did I say I only owned a single machine now? When I was a kid and had to rely on my parents sure I only had 1. Since I have had my own income I own all consoles, and don't waste my time trolling boards saying certain consoles suck. There's a difference between preference and fanboyism.

  • LEONOFDEATH #162 4 months ago

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  • LEONOFDEATH #163 4 months ago

    Also, Starhawk is GLORIOUS!

    I cant bare these guys getting so childish, Even worse when they try to mislead people in to thinking all PS3 exclusives are low quality and only consist of HD remakes.

    I plan to sell my 360 on Friday to get some money up for my new bass pedals.
    Guess why its not my PS3!