Gaikai predicts Sony or Microsoft to bow out of next gen

By Fred Dutton Published 11 January, 2012

"That will be the big news at E3."

One of the three main platform holders doesn't have the stomach for the next generation of console hardware, according to a top exec at game streaming service Gaikai.

As reported by IndustryGamers, chief product officer Nanea Reeves told an audience at CES in Las Vegas today that she anticipates that one of the main platform holders will decide not to launch another round of hardware.

"Not all of the current console makers will have one more generation. That will be the big news at E3," she said.

With Nintendo already prepping the Wii U, that leaves either Sony or Microsoft. Grab yourself a pinch of salt and place your bets.

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  • Samirnasirov #1 4 months ago

    Didn't expect that

  • gorf #2 4 months ago

    random unfounded commment from a nobody.

  • jambii267 #3 4 months ago

    @gorf Nail, Head.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #4 4 months ago

    Don't really think so. As mentioned Nintendo already have one and Microsoft is trying harder than ever to push into the living room - the xbox pretty much paved the way; The only question remains if the next Microsoft device will focus more on games or video/entertainment.

  • DyingAtheist #5 4 months ago

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Oh I'm sorry, I should be making a comment. No. You are wrong sir. If you are right I shall eat my hat, but I will not have chance as Skoll the great Norse Wolf will have devoured Earth's sun before your prophecies come to pass. In other news, Pepsi or Coke to bow out of next years soft drinks market...

  • VillanCaustic #6 4 months ago

    Highly unlikely.. but guess if it would be anyone it would be Sony as Microsoft have been investing heavily in the xbox brand lately and I know developers that are already working on titles for the next gen machine.

    cant really imagine Sony giving up on things though so a bit of a nothing story

  • Electro_UK #7 4 months ago

    We already know that MS are making their next console and while Sony is hush hush its developers certainly seem to think they're moving on. And why would Sony just release the Vita this year if they're about to call gaming quits?

  • Ed_Zeppelin #8 4 months ago

    I don't believe it but it may make sense for someone like Sony to try a different approach to steal a march on the major competitors in a new tech market related to games.

    I don't think they can afford to be too far behind MS in releasing the PS4. However if they decide to go left field it may buy them some time and steal a march on MS regardless of whether they bring out a new XBox.

  • VillanCaustic #9 4 months ago

    Just googled Nanea Reeves and she's quite fit..

    thick as sh*t though

  • Deckard1 #10 4 months ago

    I predict that monkeys will learn to fly by next Wednesday. No Thursday, definitely Thursday.

  • munki83 #11 4 months ago

    I'm pretty sure it would be financial suicide for MS or sony to say they are not making another console in the same year that new ones are being released or expected to announce.

  • MDJRUK68 #12 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 00:58:33 17-01-2012

  • bad09 #13 4 months ago

    Well Ninty already have "next gen" console coming, MS are heavily trying to tie the Xbox brand and windows brand together so they have something coming for sure. That leaves Sony and as much as I have always thought the PS3 is bit of a turkey I really don't see them going anywhere.

    We'll have all three I reckon but saying that is has happened before, ask SEGA...

  • alcides #14 4 months ago

    bullshit.
    bull. shit.

  • munki83 #15 4 months ago

    PS3 is hardly the same sort of sales failure as the Dreamcast and Saturn were.

  • Jmog #16 4 months ago

    How come she knows one of them won't release a new console... But she doesn't know which one?

    Massive bullshit. There is absolutely no reason to believe they won't release a new console. There is only one thing to discuss: Will it be 2013 or 2014.

  • metamorphic #17 4 months ago

    What the hell is Gaikai again? Sounds like a toilet dispenser.

  • JamieR #18 4 months ago

    That comment seem so out of touch with reality. why is it getting eurogamer attention? because of how stupid it is?

  • Hamhock #19 4 months ago

    Somebody tell GaiKai that Sega don't make consoles anymore.

  • ryandsimmons #20 4 months ago

    Nintendo obviously. When they release the Wii U they will have caught up with the last gen, and I'd say they will never try to get into next gen.

  • DurzoBlint #21 4 months ago

    It would be really bad for us as consumers if this was true. Microsoft and Sony being at each other's throats all gen has meant we've gotten more from them than we would have otherwise.

  • DrStrangelove #22 4 months ago

    Trying to damage superior competitors by spreading bad rumours, eh?

  • MattEdWithCheese #23 4 months ago

    I can imagine Sony skipping a console generation or otherwise severely delaying the PS4 given the massive losses they've had...

  • jefranklin18 #24 4 months ago

    This article has Sony admitting to working on the development on the next gen console (and then trying to back track).

  • motim #25 4 months ago

    Where can i get one of these jobs spouting unfounded bullshit ? i can make shit up too "Microsoft will team up with Nokia and deliver the Xbox N1080, while sony will make PS$ work by sucking the blood of the clients!"

  • butler` #26 4 months ago

    to be fair to her she is actually a somebody, she used to be a senior VP at EA

    still talking shit though

  • RoOhDaMite #27 4 months ago

    After the latest dashboard update I'm not so sure about my Xbox beeing a games-console.

  • bcxixa10 #28 4 months ago

    LOL

  • captain_Carl #29 4 months ago

    Homeless bloke outside ASDA told me earlier that Nintendo are going to give away the WiiU in boxes of Cheerios

  • The-Jack-Burton #30 4 months ago

    I don't think Sony will bow out, but I am thinking there next gen might not be on the same timeline as the others.

  • Collymilad #31 4 months ago

    Yeah keep dreaming.

    Seems like this is based on what he would like rather than anything even remotely likely to happen.

    MS - Moneypit
    Sony - Won't stop competing
    Nintendo - Moneypit 2 and Wii U already announced.

    They new consoles might come later than expected, but they will come from both MS and Sony.

  • Inmediasress #32 4 months ago

    Well I guess she meant that Wii U will not be considered next gen, other than that I can't really think of anything else.
    Maybe Sony ditches the market but I very very highly doubt that although I'm sure they will be the late comers to the party.

    However what happens after the next gen will be interesting.
    If Nintendo manage to put out a competitive console that not just sucks in the casual but HC crowd as well then there might not be a PS5 from Sony but thats too far away to specualte about.

    Sony should release their console simultaneously or at least very close with M$ or they will be palying second fiddle again. May even lose some seriouse face/sales.

    With Nintendo releasing theirs early, M$ have a good chance of getting a rather large head start if Sony don't pull their heads out of their arses.
    Edited by Inmediasress at 11/01/12 @ 21:07

  • Utilero #33 4 months ago

    Out of all the companies mentioned in this article I only see Gaikai bowing out of the game sooner than later...

  • IvorB #34 4 months ago

    Obvious troll is obvious.

  • JumpinJackFlash #35 4 months ago

    Neither MS or Sony will pull out altogether. One thing is for certain though, both MS and Sony will reduce the funding to create both the PS4/NextBox.

    Those gamers expecting a super powerful PS4/NextBox need to wake up and stop dreaming about hardware they're never going to get.


    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/303367/playstation-4-cheaper-to-make-than-ps3-sony/

  • upselo #36 4 months ago

    It could have been interesting to show how the company she's working for could benefit from this. What she says seems just like wishful thinking to make her compay's prospects look better.

  • penguin_overlord #37 4 months ago

    Ain't going to happen. Not for the next gen at least. Sony and Microsoft have both made significant money from this gen and that's sure to continue with the next Xbox and PlayStation. I do think though that smarter TVs and technology like OnLive will make it very likely that at least one of the companies will bow out before the next next gen.

    It's hard to see the need for a dedicated console in 2020AD when many people have fast broadband access (either cable or wireless) and want the freedom to play their games from multiple devices connected to the cloud.

  • jellyBelly #38 4 months ago

    all she's trying to do is win investor mindshare, albeit in a dishonest way

  • Lemming81 #39 4 months ago

    Isn't it already Nintendo? I understood the Wii U to be on par with current gen MS and Sony consoles power-wise?

  • michaelius #40 4 months ago

    I predict all big 3 will outlast Gaikai in video games market ;)

  • RevanNL #41 4 months ago

    @JumpinJackFlash: There's one flaw in your reasoning. Of the three hardware companies, only Sony decided to sink a whole lot of money during the development of the PS3. They invested (in their own words) 'billions of dollars' in the development of the Cell processor and decided to put a blu-ray drive in the PS3. While Nintendo made a profit on the Wii and MS lost around $125 for every sold 360, Sony lost $300 for every sold PS3.

    That is what cost them in the early years of the PS3, and it was also the reason that Sony wasn't able to cut the price of the system when it was needed. This time around, Sony probably won't make the same mistake again. Ken Kuturagi is gone (all his accomplishments aside, he went a bit insane during his final years at Sony), they won't spend billions of dollars on the development of a new processor and it's very unlikely that the PS4 will use a new disc-format.

    What I'm trying to say is that it is very well possible that the next generation of systems can be powerhouses and be reasonably cheap to produce at the same time. Granted, they won't come with an SSD drive, but they will be quite a step forward.

  • killyourtv #42 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 12:40:00 12-01-2012

  • persus-9 #43 4 months ago

    I dunno, I could just about see Sony bowing out. Sony are a huge company so it wouldn't be suicide to kill the PS4 and concentrate on smartTVs as their premier media hub since smartTVs are the future and they are in competition with a lot of the side functions they like to include in consoles. They can do that without giving up on gaming, it would just be a move away from having a separate box under the TV. It could be that Nanea Reeves knows this because their net gen of smartTVs are going to be built to work closely with Gaikai's game streaming system.

  • ThaneKrios #44 4 months ago

  • steoconnell #45 4 months ago

    Unknown game streaming company make rediculous claim. Loads of gaming websites report it. Unknown game streaming service gets loads of publicity.

    Well done for falling for it EG :rolleyes:

  • StooMonster #46 4 months ago

    She can only be referring to Sony, interesting. (We know Ninty got Wii U and everyone knows new Microsoft hardware is imminent.)

    But does she know something, or is it bullshit.

    Sir Howard Stringer said at CES today that Sony's future lies in it's "four screen strategy" of laptops, smartphones, televisions, and tablets all offering a Sony Entertainment Network interface for a range of content.

    He talked about content and hardware, and maybe having Sony Pictures movies exclusively on their SEN platform, but he didn't mention PlayStation (caveat: not in the reports I've seen).

    Hrm...

  • DoctorFraud #47 4 months ago

    I could see Sony bowing out. PS3 has wiped all the funds built up from PS2 and has been a financial nightmare.

    Cant say I'd miss them tbh..

  • The-Bodybuilder #48 4 months ago

    Big misunderstanding folks.
    What she clearly meant to say is that the next-gen will have A NEW CHALLANGER; said to be Sega and the Dreamcast 2. Launch titles will be "The Shenmue Saga", a completed next gen version of the series, Jet Set Radio Online, Panzar Dragoon Saga next-gen remake, skies of arcadia 2 and a re-acquisition of bizarre games studio (will bring the team back) to make MSR 2.

    I jest. It will launch with Sonic Adventure 3.

  • Rodster #49 4 months ago

    If this were 1st April I might have passed it off as a stupid April fools joke. Since it's not this anal-ist is an idiot. The Xbox brand and Playstation brand makes both companies lots of money. And the WiiU has been announced.

  • SASking #50 4 months ago

    Rubbish. A Dr at my University in Liverpool has already confirmed that games are already in development for PS4. Microsoft have pretty much indirectly announced a new xbox is being developed through there job advertisement on Linkedin last year.

    It's amazing the amount of rumours that are coming out at present from so called 'analysts' and 'very high level sources' that completely contradict eachother.

  • BlinkeredAxis #51 4 months ago

    Depends what a next-gen console will be. Streaming games off the cloud might actually be reality in 2-3 years, so it could be s smart move to market games that way, and save the cost of developing a console.

    Wouldn't work with my Virgin media connection in Brighton though. It's crap before 10pm.

  • espibara #52 4 months ago

    HA

    I'm more likley to trip up, fall and insert my penis into Angelina Jolie

  • Amblin #53 4 months ago

    I agree with the gaiai rep, the problem is that thanks to the digial download market, a console is a bigger risk. A lot of $$$ loss each time they're launched. Then you make back on the game and peripheral sales.

    Sony lost it's arese as did ms with thier current gen console launches for a while.

    It's not beyond the realms of possiblility. Can't wait to see if it turns out to be true.

    I'd bet on MS not Sony. Sony are too stuck in the mud to deviate now but there is the tie in to smart TV's.

    MS on the other hand has no other hardware. Could try the tivo approach but I can see 5 years form now that consoles will be dead and it'll be smart TV's and hand helds.

  • rudedudejude #54 4 months ago

    Sony will duck out and Google will announce a new console for free with sponsored ads every 12 seconds.

  • Kafeen #55 4 months ago

    Do people get paid for coming up with crap like this?

  • jamesi #56 4 months ago

    lol the complete bollocks that these people come away with:rolleyes:

  • Anciegher #57 4 months ago

    Sony!

  • DrStrangelove #58 4 months ago

    @butler`
    to be fair to her she is actually a somebody, she used to be a senior VP at EA
    I guess that means we can trust in her judgement.

  • Fruit-Salad #59 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 01:35:51 08-02-2012

  • The_Red #60 4 months ago

    Sorry but that's just flat out impossible. Sure, one day the new consoles might stopped coming out but that future is not close and certainly not meant for this generation.
    The way future consoles are introduced might change a lot. They may go Nintendo and stop upgrading the graphics. They may go Apple and try a rapid-release method with smaller upgrades. Heck, they might even go full cloud some day but not anytime soon.

  • miiiguel #61 4 months ago

    Wishful thinking. Anyhow I wouldn't be shocked if Sony "jumped" a generation, they keep saying PS3 will last forever.
    How's Gaikai doing anyway ?

  • Monkeyspoon #62 4 months ago

    Well Sony have been investing a lot of money into buying development studios so I dont see them giving up. Microsoft on the other hand hardly have any legacy to leave behind and won't be missed. I can see microsoft leaving consoles behind to focus on windows gaming tablets and phones.

  • getittoomebaby #63 4 months ago

    Well the Wii U isn't really next Gen. Its catch up. Hats off to Nintendo marketing though people "think" its next gen ;).

    Personally, I think Nintendo may just go hand held in the future (obviously beyond Wii U) and move to tablets. Their games generally don't need all the horse power that is required. They have Art style.

    Expect pad devices to completely dominate the casual market and guess what Nintendo have a pad controller.

    Anything is possible at MS after all they killed their tablet off and they are hoping to ride the new wave of Win 7/8 tablets etc. Never been good at hardware at all its not their strong suite. PC sales are down (see their latest revenue warning) this trend may continue. But I can't see them dropping their brand in the home.

    Smarter TVs are coming and when Sony built their chip it was supposed to be able to be used in TVs. Certainly would give them a huge push in a very competitive market segment. Sony still keep their brand in the home.

    Also there are a bunch of streaming game services now so you never know this may be a co-incidence.

    But to the person bagging on EG for reporting news you can't really say that if its announcement it should be reported. Whether you choose to read it is completely up to you.

  • bladdard #64 4 months ago

    Personally I almost agree. The X-TV-PVR-NET-BOX jack of all trades is the future, a set top box that provides gaming, TV, PVR and internet. Games consoles will cease to exist in their current form.

  • miiiguel #65 4 months ago

    Monkey and Space are having a curious dialog, funny. More.

  • captain_Carl #66 4 months ago

    You guys REALLY think Sony will release the Vita in february and then bow out of the console business 4 months later? Yeah. Sure. Okay. I sure they spent billions on R&D, production, game developing, exclusive development contracts, and PSN infrastructure, just to say "fuck it" 4 months later.

    If they had billions to waste like that they could at least blow it in style. Like, i don't know, build a giant cock that ejaculates the words "Fuck you" every 10 minutes and send it into space

  • Code_R #67 4 months ago

    Microsoft decide to stop printing their own money. Is that a likely E3 headline?

  • Fruit-Salad #68 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 01:35:51 08-02-2012

  • FenderMaster #69 4 months ago

    And what is she basing this on? A gut feeling?

  • A_Nonny #70 4 months ago

    Hmm... The PS3's swan-song title may well be The Last of Us. Ominous foreshadowing?

  • TheEarlOfZinger #71 4 months ago

    Anyone else notice the Gaikai button on the eurogamer menu bar?

  • dorkacle #72 4 months ago

    Well whether you like it or not (i dont) ninty proved with the wii that you dont have t have cutting edge tech t fool people in buyin ur console. So maybe sony wont be in the same 'race' as microsoft in that respect. Maybe dey'll push the ps move in a new way with old tech much like ninty did dis time out and are planning to with the wii u next gen! Doubt it doh!

  • vizzini #73 4 months ago

    Even though, last year before E3, I had money on Microsoft's shareholders denying them the finances to do another Xbox; because they are failing to finish at least 2nd this generation, and they were jettisoning most of their first party devs or converted them to Kinect houses. Realistically all of them will roll the dice at least one more time imo.

    It would be quite easy to make a reasoned argument for Microsoft dropping out or them(all) changing direction, due to social networking eroding the influence of TV today and the relevance of a home console.

    Nintendo could easily migrate to a publisher on Playstation/Xbox if another player such as LG or Samsung joined the fray, and with the Wii U specs undecided a change of heart to migrate to PS3 and Move wouldn't be bad business for them.

    Sony could just change direction and publish on everything(including the PC) through Playstation Suite, make use of their large portfolio of Ips(Music, Film, TV) and development teams they've invested in to make up for Playstation representing 70% of their business(iirc).

    Microsoft could just take the Xbox brand back to Windows to help relaunch Window's relevance with today's social Android/iDevice consumers. And that would coincide with them launching Windows 8, which they hope to unify and convert their PC market share into the mobile & tablet space.

    But it still doesn't sound likely, now they've all sold alot of product this generation.

  • Fruit-Salad #74 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 01:35:51 08-02-2012

  • Pwnsweet #75 4 months ago

    This will not happen. They may release hardware that's less powerful then people expect so that they make a profit on each console from day one Nintendo style, but there's no way they will just "pull out".

  • Fozzie_bear #76 4 months ago

    Breaking News: Executive of thing you've never heard of says something outrageous.

    Name of thing you've never heard of plastered on every gaming news site for free.

  • DjSolid_AGR #77 4 months ago

    I would like to make a relative comment, but since GaiKai is such a success I think I will wait a little bit more... Or I could just put, say, one of my disks in, say, one of my consoles and, say, actually PLAY something instead of commenting something that somebody "really important" said about somebody who's REALLY important in the games industry...

  • geordiek #78 4 months ago

    Could I have a pint/smoke of what she has had. Cos I could really do with leaving reality for a while.

  • penhalion #79 4 months ago

    Actually if I had to place my bet I would have picked Nintendo.

    However, given the greed rife in the industry and the lack of content or consumer willingness to buy into the hype anymore. The trend in console gaming sales can only continue downwards.

    The sensible business mind would have to say "Billions in r and d and manufacture on a new console that isn't going to pay/break even for 4-5 years is commercial suicide at this time". In my book that kind of sanity smells awfully like Microsoft. They can quite easily fall back to producing hardware for the PC market instead. Perhaps streaming from the PC plug-in card to a dumb box attached to your HD TV. This allows for great graphics, processing power, memory and minimal hardware costs.

    The less sensible business mind would have to go with Sony. The vita isn't taking off like it should. Losses throughout the company have been dire and then spending billions on new in home hardware at this time would most likely kill sony as a brand. Given the recession, the downward trend in software sales and that the money for consoles is made on the software not hardware. A new playstation now would be like announcing that you're cutting your head off and carrying it around with you i.e. suicide.

    My predicition for reality is going to have to be no new consoles announced at all but, new add on hardware in the form of the kinect 2 and maybe the move 2 with a better camera and accuracy (anyone who's played overkill will feel my pain for move). The kinect 2 will most likely re-instate the hardware that was removed from the first unit. Given that that hardware made the prototype kinect strangely capable of exactly what microsoft claim a new kinect will be able to do.

  • Ryze #80 4 months ago

    SONY.

    They can't afford it. VITA is their next gen.

    Shame they probably don't know how to market it.

    REMEMBER - Krazy Ken fell on his sword trying to make PS3 a Trojan Horse futureproof console with EVERYTHING.

    They bet the farm on PS3, and it launched with 256MB RAM.

    They had no chance. They wanted it to be like a VCR or CD player, that sells on an evergreen basis for 15+ years.


    edit: Unless it's just a wishful thinking marketing ploy.

    /waits...
    Edited by Ryze at 12/01/12 @ 04:03

  • ilmaestro #81 4 months ago

    "thick as sh*t though" etc etc

    Nope, she just got Gaikai's name in news headlines on a bunch of game websites. What did you do today?

  • HyZepher #82 4 months ago

    Looks like she may have just meant that one will not announce it this year

  • Subdominator #83 4 months ago

    I think she means Nintendo. It is known that Nintendo pretty much just enters the current gen late with Wii U. It can't be as powerful as a next generation console is supposed to be simply because of its design. Half of that housing is reserved for the disk drive, that leaves not much more space for fancy GPUs and CPUs than in a tablet.

    Nintendo only needs its own games to survive, they don't have to release a next gen console and risk huge losses when they can just release something that is slightly more powerful than PS360. They basically did the same thing with Wii, it was just slightly better Gamecube tech. It's cheap and obviously it worked for them.

    Microsoft won't leave the business now that they finally make money instead of burning it.

    Sony ... well I guess after how this gen went I could see them not wanting to do the same just yet. But would they let Microsoft take the lead again and this time with three or four years in advance? I doubt it. So the only thing Sony will do different is to not use proprietary hardware like the Cell. That would've worked if Cell had actually ended up as the go-to chip for every TV and entertainment product, as planned by IBM and Sony. But it didn't and so Cell is dead for consumer products.

    Leaves only Nintendo. Nintendo enters the current gen with Wii U, skips the next gen and then release a new console as the early starters of the next next gen around 2020.

  • arcam #84 4 months ago

    Is no one actually at CES to provide some context to this story? I can see this being reported in lots of places but nowhere that says what she was talking about at the time, whether this was really a hard prediction or just light-hearted chat about the industry. Everyone is fast, but no one's thorough...

  • evarofzentral #85 4 months ago

    They just don't have the stomach to make profits any more. You should grab a whole bowl of salt rather than a pinch.

  • JumpinJackFlash #86 4 months ago

    @RevanNL

    Yeah, consoles will be better next gen, but they won't be as powerful as many think. I just wouldn't go expecting 4GB of RAM (low latency RAM isn't cheap!), a 580 GTX level GPU or a CPU equivalent to a Intel i5/7.

    You only need to look around gaming forums to see this is the hardware some naive console gamers are expecting the PS4/NextBox to pack. It's laughable, not to mention, unsustainable.

    MS has already indicated it wants to make a profit, from day one, on the NextBox, just like the Wii. Plus with Sony cutting the funding for PS4 hardware, it only denotes the fact that both firms don't want to lose money on any hardware they sell, from day one.

    Powerful hardware costs money, lots of it and Sony/MS don't want to go there with their next gen hardware.

    Lets face it, Sony/MS are after the casual markets with their next hardware and the casual market don't care what inside the box.

    I personally believe the PS4/NextBox will only be marginally better than the PS3/360, much like the Wii was when contrasted next to the Gamecube.

    Nintendo opened Sony's and Microsoft's eyes this gen with regards to low cost hardware that makes a profit from day one and you can bet next gen Sony and MS will follow Nintendo's ideology.

  • Okamiwolf #87 4 months ago

    For the last 5 years, there have been NO major announcements at E3, nothing earth shattering that wasn't leaked at least a month beforehand. I think E3 is completely overrated nowdays as a source of major announcements. I predict another round of ho-hum news conferences from the big 3. Maybe Microsoft will show their new system, but that will be after details about it have already been leaked by April or so.

  • Badassbab #88 4 months ago

    Wendy McEyebrow of Steak & Egg Analysts has just announced Apple are releasing a new console and will call it Pear.

  • Badassbab #89 4 months ago

    @JumpinJackFlash

    I think Next Gen will be quite powerful just not as a big leap like last gen. Still fixed hardware does have advantages.

  • local_celebrity #90 4 months ago

    Gakked up more like.

    #downwiththeyoof

  • KopparbergDave #91 4 months ago

    The PlayStation brand is probably the most valuable thing Sony owns. Can't see them bowing out.

  • DodgyPast #92 4 months ago

    She's trolled a lot of fanboys... that's for sure.

    Lol at the smart tv thing.

    They'll never be a replacement for more dedicated gaming devices ( including stuff like iPads ). TVs aren't disposable enough... while I can see the value as media players since the power for that is cheap enough the life time of the screen is too long too compete with a separate device that can be refreshed cheaper and more often.

  • Snake_2011 #93 4 months ago

    the company that started before MS has sold millions of consoles makes excellent games is going to bow out what a load of turd.

  • Ryze #94 4 months ago

    @JumpinJackFlash You're actually right, sadly enough.

    I guess I'll be upgrading my gaming PC!

  • Ryze #95 4 months ago

    @Subdominator

    Sadly, on reflection... you make several very valid points...

    edit: Plus MS would become dicks if they only had Apple, Ninty, Gaikai and Onlive as competition.

    Nintendo have already had them do an about face in terms of strategy.
    Edited by Ryze at 12/01/12 @ 04:19

  • Sunyavadin #96 4 months ago

    Who is fraping the EG news feed this time to put out joke articles?

  • Sunyavadin #97 4 months ago

    Although, that said...

    "Not all of the current console makers will have one more generation. That will be the big news at E3," she said.

    I suppose that could be taken to mean "only one more gen"
    Which therefore she can save face on by saying "what I meant was that several console makers have plans for another generation AFTER the next one"

    So saying nothing at all, basically.

  • man.the.king #98 4 months ago

    @FenderMaster

    And what is she basing this on? A gut feeling?

    Actually, I equate a "gut feeling" to "pull out of ass" - that's where the gut eventually leads to anyway :lol:
    Edited by man.the.king at 12/01/12 @ 06:13

  • Snake_2011 #99 4 months ago

    this is what her company & onlive want they will get a shock when no one wants just cloud gaming. it would please her no end if consoles stopped.
    Edited by Snake_2011 at 12/01/12 @ 06:45

  • ZizouFC #100 4 months ago

    She's pretty saucy:

  • bionic_v2 #101 4 months ago

    So if Sony don't show Playstation 4 at E3 it means they've decided to exit next gen.

    I'm not expecting to hear anything about Playstation 4. I am happy with Playstation 3. I am in no rush for another new console. To be fair, few have managed to get to grips with PS3 and X360. There's little hope for next gen anyway.

  • BellyFullOfHell #102 4 months ago

    @The-Bodybuilder
    Oh man, if only.

  • Bennicus #103 4 months ago

    Maybe one of them might give up or fail in a few years... *maybe*... but they're sure as hell not going to get up on stage at E3 and go "Guess what guys, no more consoles from us, toodles!"

  • Nazo #104 4 months ago

    My prediction:
    Gaikai is doing badly and they desperately need some publicity. And who better than EG for repeating baseless stories?

  • Reedo #105 4 months ago

    www.eurogamer.net/gaikai - now it all makes sense...

  • RumpyStumpy #106 4 months ago

    @gorf Pot, kettle.

  • coolbritannia #107 4 months ago

    To be fair, she's entitled to her predictions. EG didn't have to make it one of the main stories and act like the sky is falling did they. In fact, this could have safely gone by unreported. Curious that shit like this makes news here but Game groups shares collapsing at the start of the week went by unreported (unless I missed the story).

  • ruddiger7 #108 4 months ago

    Judging from CES we are on the brink of Ultrahigh definitions being introduced atleast within the next five years. To bring out a console now and not take advantage of that and only utilise 1080p is not the way to go IMO.

  • Darren #109 4 months ago

    Well Sony are in financial trouble from what I've read, the PS3 has never really been very profitable and their TVs aren't selling well, but I can't see them abandoning the PlayStation console because of that, perhaps just delaying its successor as long as possible. Microsoft have done fairly well this generation compared with the underperforming and launched-very-late Xbox so I can't see them dropping out either. The Xbox name is now a well established brand. I really don't think there's any truth to this but the generation after, who knows?
    Edited by Darren at 12/01/12 @ 08:41

  • FireMonkey #110 4 months ago

    @coolbritannia - Their shares have been nose diving for a while and EG reported about it earlier on (in Nov).

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-23-game-groups-share-price-nose-dives

    I know it has got a little worse for them since then, but it'd be almost the same story.

  • DwarfyP #111 4 months ago

    Yeah right.

    Microsoft has spent billions on getting to where it is now. They aren't going to drop.
    Sony makes money from the PlayStation brand while other parts of Sony make losses, they aren't going to drop.

    One of them might delay their console launch, possibly Sony purely to see how the market goes and get a bit more out of the current console.

  • Darren #112 4 months ago

    @Electro_UK - It's possible, though unlikely, that Sony could drop the console and focus purely on the handheld market?

    I very much doubt it though because from what I've read the Vita hardware isn't exactly profitable either and is sold at a small loss. And after the relative failure of the PSP (compared with Nintendo's dominating DS) it would be suicidal for Sony to drop its more popular gaming platform. If anything I would have expected Sony to have abandoned the handheld market and focused on the the PS console.

    I can't imagine the games industry without Sony and the PlayStation but there again who would have thought SEGA would pack in when it ditched the Dreamcast in 2001? In this industry anything can and does happen.

  • Dewin #113 4 months ago

    Everyone thinks its Sony, i think she's talking about MS. For one, MS is a software company at the core. And one not heavely invested in games. They don't have a lot of internal game studio's, they bet on 3rd party publishers. And judging from the new 360 interface, gaming is taking a backseat. MS doesn't care about games, it just wants you to consume content, ANY content, via their services. MS wants that position under your TV. Sony on the other hand has a lot of game studio's and is a lot more invested in the actual creation of games. MS just wants to publish it. Or wave their wallets and buy dlc and shit. Its a lot easier for MS to back out. Sony has far too much invested in gaming to quit.

  • blarty #114 4 months ago

    ahahahahahahahaaaa <breathes> hahahahahahaaaaa <sighs> Oh stop it.... you're killing me

  • coolbritannia #115 4 months ago

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jan/10/game-shares-slump-christmas-sales

    Game shares dropped 40% to 4p after the retailer said UK like-for-like sales tumbled 15.2% in the eight weeks to 7 January.

    You can't tell me it's the same story after hundreds of Battlefield/COD stories a year get published here.

  • NotSoSlim #116 4 months ago

    Both Sony and MS are going to find acway to make next console cheap to make in order for them to make a profit from get go.

    Sony will re use alot from PS3 imo

    Good news for consumers as console wont be over priced.

  • teabagger #117 4 months ago

    There's talking up your own product, then there's making yourself look a tit.

    He's firmly in the 'looking like a tit' catagory.

  • Po1ymorph #118 4 months ago

    Someone's trying to get they company in the headlines.

    That's a nice bit of free advertising this "exec" has just got for Gaikai, who I had not previously heard of.

  • LOLBox #119 4 months ago

    Post deleted at 17:38:00 15-01-2012

  • woodnotes #120 4 months ago

    "all she's trying to do is win investor mindshare, albeit in a dishonest way"

    My very first thought. It's FUD.

  • Nico4 #121 4 months ago

    lol, yea right, and Apple will make a video game console and SEGA will make the Dreamcast 2. Samsung will also create a new console as well.

  • Scrapper #122 4 months ago

    Hopefully Microsoft bow out.

  • Badassbab #123 4 months ago

    It has been advised by some MS spin off the Xbox brand (i.e make it completely independent of MS) but now it's making them money I doubt they'll do that.

  • Zerobob #124 4 months ago

    I can see why it would make perfect sense for a company to bow out of the next gen, due to higher development times of next gen games, as well as having to re-establish a new user base.

    Personally, I'd happily buy X360 games for the next 3-4 years if the games are entertaining and of good quality. This would also save me having to spend £250-£300 (probably more) on a new console.

    However, not taking part in the next gen sends out a potentially bad PR message to consumers, in that it could make the company appear weaker than the competition, and the user base could diminish if a lot of people leap to a new next gen console.

    The technology market is and has always been about moving forward and advancing technology and finding something else that the consumer "needs to buy" and I can't see this changing.

  • vizzini #125 4 months ago

    DwarfP:Microsoft has spent billions on getting to where it is now. They aren't going to drop.

    But in their original 10year plan to be the number name and dominate gaming they haven't achieved that; and coupled with the trend of their desktop OS becoming less and less relevant in all our lives, their investment though huge is still small compared to what they stand to loose; if they don't focus more on their core business presence(desktop PC) and stop its decline in the profitable backoffice. And in a way that avoids a repeat of the antitrust problems they've had in the past.

    The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for Microsoft to take the Xbox and Kinect brands and use them as two separate SKU lines for selling Windows on mobile, tablet and PC.

    You then might have a Windows 8 Kinect edition; overlapping mobile, tablet and the old starter and home basic editions, Windows 8 Xbox edition; all Kinect's functionality and the replacement for Home Premium, and then finishing with a Windows 8 overlapping Xbox functionality, but as a consolidation of Professional and Ultimate editions for productivity use.

    This would then free them to also publish anything like Halo on WiiU and PS4 as a means to sell their relevance through both other companies strategies to refeed their home OS business.

  • ChristopherJack #126 4 months ago

    Neither are likely to do so, something drastic would have to happen to change that & cloud gaming isn't that, instead I imagine that both Sony & Microsoft may chase OnLive or more likely, Gaikai, to host online servers for their next console. Honestly I prefer Gaikai's outlook towards cloud gaming, it just makes sense to simply stream a game that you're testing then downloading a multi-GB demo, especially with stricter ISPs who have low data limits.

  • silverjon #127 4 months ago

    Absolute tosh. Sounds like someone spouting nonsense to grab some headlines for themselves. I wonder how long the EG editor spent wondering whether to bother promoting this non-news. I could understand if MS bowed out of Japan in the next gen; it must cost them a fortune for such little return. But globally ? Naah - the convergent media box is too strategically important for any major player to walk away from. In the next few years, anyway. Who knows, long-term ?

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #128 4 months ago

    Look, even though none of us want less competition in the Industry, and even though this is very improbable, it is possible that Sony could change direction.

    Stringer has said Sony's future is Laptops, Smartphones, Televisions and Tablets.

    The PS3 achieved one of its main strategies - to get Blu-Ray in homes. They don't have a new format to push this time which makes a repeat investment and running at a loss a lot harder to justify.

    Their 1st Party studios are where the money is and the shareholders can see that they could push those to a far wider audience on other consoles, PC, phones, TVs, streaming etc etc.

    Given it's financial woes and restructuring that has already taken place, if you was in charge wouldn't you push PSN on to all your devices, sell your software/media on all devices, and re-market the PS3 tech (which is still very good tech for a large number of users) by integrating it into TVs, BD Players etc, along with a true £130 slim version which could sell at a profit for years to come?

    I think I would.

    (Of course I could think of equal arguments for MS bowing out too, if it weren't for the dev kits....)
    Edited by SpaceMidget75 at 12/01/12 @ 10:07

  • robbiejc85 #129 4 months ago

    Speaking as a marketer, that's very base-level but succesful PR. Eurogamer can't really ignore such a story, we all hear about Gaikai, and those who don't know who they are might go check them out. Basically free web hits. Bastards.

    Also, a load of tosh, obviously - even if MS is moving the Xbox platform more toward social / multimedia interaction (like with the new dash and Kinect) - we'll still have a box or dedicated platform of sorts. In fact, surely if Gaikai and OnLive got their act together they could just provide the Big 3's inevitable Cloud Gaming for them under the guise of PSN / XNLA / Wii-Uware- why bother competing? They won't win on their own.

  • crofty13 #130 4 months ago

    Translation: Gaikai has run out of venture capital and is trying to make some noise to boost a failing product.

  • dadrester #131 4 months ago

    What she actually said could easily be interpreted as "Microsoft aren't going to announce a new console because they're moving to a cloud based system (which we will be helping supply through Xbox360" or, "Sony aren't going to make any announcements regarding PS4 at E3 or possibly this year".

    Either of these could be imaginable, given microsoft's expertise outside the games industry, and the fact Sony have already said they're not announcing anything soon.
    Edited by dadrester at 12/01/12 @ 10:24

  • Subdominator #132 4 months ago

    @crofty13 And she did a pretty damn good job at promoting the service. The last couple of hours must've boosted their PIs a lot. *sigh* I wish Perry would do another MDK instead of streaming content.

  • Velios #133 4 months ago

    Sony 100%

  • Po1ymorph #134 4 months ago

    @SpaceMidget75 You make some very interesting points there.

    I cannot see Sony pulling out just yet tho. They still have a large and loyal fanbase. Most likely they will hold off on another console for 5 or 6 years.

    And like you said a £130 PS3 would sell like hotcakes.

  • Subdominator #135 4 months ago

    @SpaceMidget75 Some valid points but Sony makes more money with selling accessories for PS3 and selling 3rd party ganmes than with their 1st party lineup. Of course PS3 could stick around for the next gen. That's pretty much a given because of Wii U specs.

  • NiolK #136 4 months ago

    I predict Microsoft and Sony will join forces to bring a unified "Home Social Media Infotainment Blowjob Machine" to the market.

  • TheJuriel #137 4 months ago

    Nintendo SHOULD drop out and just make games for others, would serve them better.

    Neither Sony or Microsoft will drop their platform, since they've invested too much into this whole thing.

    So, bullshit call.

  • vizzini #138 4 months ago

    @SpaceMidget75

    I'm sure Microsoft right up until management decided to pull the plug on Zune in October of last year had the Zune hardware people still doing their work as usual. So the existence of 720 PC styled devkits don't actually mean a great deal from a wealth company like Microsoft who could afford to write the money off, and especially when writing a hardware emulator to work on a Windows PC(of performance index X) would be a way to change course at minimal cost, and still meeting contractual obligations with publishing partners.

  • Freki #139 4 months ago

    Lets hope not, competition is good.

  • gandhimaster #140 4 months ago

    @StooMonster that's a good description of a strategy that does not need a console under the tv. A box similar to OnLive where effectively you get access to PSN on your telly.....?

  • gandhimaster #141 4 months ago

    @espibara how unfortunate would that be :D

  • Jonny5Alive7 #142 4 months ago

    Well thats probably a load of rubbish, but if it was going to be one of them dropping out I would bet on Sony.

  • Britesparc Verified Creative, ITV #143 4 months ago

    Wow, I'm really thirsty, having had to take that massive pinch of salt.

  • Britesparc Verified Creative, ITV #144 4 months ago

    Also, I think @spagemidget is onto something with Sony putting their software (eg PSN) onto their other devices (eg TVs, tablets). TBH, I think this is the route both MS and Sony will take.

    One of the best things MS could do is start licensing Kinect tech out to TV manufacturers, so they build it - and the Metro-based OS - into their TVs right from the start. Voice control is the way forward!

  • bobfish09 #145 4 months ago

    Sony has proven they are committed to the market with the launch of the Vita or maybe they think a traditional console isn't worth the effort and something more unique is required.

  • Spydy #146 4 months ago

    Yeah, let's go to E3, the biggest game show on earth to announce we are bowing out of games.

    Fucking stupid and a pathetic way to get hits.

  • INSOMANiAC #147 4 months ago

    I reckon it will be Atari

  • Darren #148 4 months ago

    You know what would be really great next generation?

    For Sony and Microsoft to team up and release a single console between them. Microsoft could design the hardware, Sony could make it, Microsoft could create the interface and online features and Sony (plus third-parties obviously) could provide the games.

    Imagine that?

    Given that exclusives are massively outnumbered by multiformat games available on both platforms I personally would really like to see that. A PlayBox or XStation if you will! It would certainly save me money on the hardware and put an end to fan-boy arguments about which system is better for games.

  • telboy007 #149 4 months ago

    If there was ever a time for Sega to make a comeback...

  • Darren #150 4 months ago

    @telboy007 - No!

    Microsoft are in effect the replacement for SEGA. I do not want another console tempting me to buy it!

  • kevcampbell #151 4 months ago

    in other news Gaikai also confirmed the rumours earlier today of the world ending on December 2012

  • vizzini #152 4 months ago

    @Darren

    That deals never work out with Microsoft. Even when they are the ones that go cap-in-hand as the licensee, they always do something to show their true colours, whether it was OpenGL with Silicon Graphics, Java with Sun Microsystems, Novel, IBM, HP, Compaq, Sega, Apple, and now Nokia by the looks of things.

    From their track record, you'd have to be as arrogant as the guy promoting COD to think you would ever come out of a deal with them better than you went in.

    It is a nice idea of yours(other than Microsoft no less about electrical engineering than Sony have forgotten), but a joint venture from Nintendo, Sega and Sony would have been the only viable industry solution for a great single platform and great games with innovation. Each of those companies have gaming as their everything, rather than it just a side interest.

  • vert1go #153 4 months ago

    Wishful Drinking?

  • MadDave123 #154 4 months ago

    Stupid person who controls stupid company that has been alive for stupidly short amount of time makes stupid comment with stupid basis in stupidity.

    Le sigh.

  • Smoped #155 4 months ago

    I could see Sony "getting out" of the console business in the sense that they wouldn't make a PS4, but would go for some kind of integrated entertainment experience for their tvs, possibly streaming games or at least heavily cloud-based.
    They already used the PS3 to win the HD format war, and nowadays their tv division needs all the help it can get.

    Edited to add: This all assuming this person is privvy to some inside information and not just shooting her mouth. I personally would expect all the present players to be there for the next gen.
    Edited by Smoped at 12/01/12 @ 13:15

  • des #156 4 months ago

    Sony out,google in

  • makeamazing #157 4 months ago

    The actual news story is bollocks, but what i would like from my main Games news sites, is for them to contact this woman and ask for clarification of her statements/interview.

    Personally i can sick of lots of sites doing this tabloid crap and then not calling them up on it, or actually changing the meaning of the quote for hits..

    So contact her and ask her what she meant... thats reporting :)

  • Dangerous_Dan #158 4 months ago

    If I were any console manufacturer then I would concentrate on producing a console which is not selling at a loss and which is similar in architecture to the now generation. It would improve backwards compatibility and lower costs.

    Those manufacturers have to plan 5 years ahead and I think there is a time for risky investments and a time for prudent saving of resources and reducing risks of bad investments. Right now I don't think the next five years gonna be the leisure, party, money is no issue years for a lot of people.

    So for the PS3 maybe a new version of the slim with improved chip size and when they enter the new round I hope they are prudent and smart about the costs.
    Oh and strengthen the exclusives to differentiate from the competitors.
    Edited by Dangerous_Dan at 12/01/12 @ 13:29

  • Darksjeik #159 4 months ago

    *turns head away from PC*

    "What? ...did you say something..oh okay, nevermind"

    *looks back at PC*

  • Caimbeul #160 4 months ago

    That would be a sad day for gaming.

    Wishful thinkning by Gaikai?

  • Kilters #161 4 months ago

    Whoever bows out next gen will be the smartest.

    Given that over the next couple of years we could possibly see Europe, USA and China all imploding financially, who's going to be buying these new boxes?

    Just look at the unemployment rate in Spain and then the key Games buying demographic. Frightening and coming to a country near you soon.

  • theonlyix #162 4 months ago

    Sony will bow out if any, however - it would be preferrable if Nintendo quit the game while ahead and focused on making their kids games for an even bigger audience (the one of the other consoles combined).

    If MS will bow out, it will be to let others manufacture specificationlocked hardware with different looks, and minimal modification. Xbox belongs in the livingroom - wii and ps notsomuch.

  • riseer #163 4 months ago

    This is pure garbage,both Ms and Sony will have a next gen console.The biggest diffrence will be Sony won't pour a huge amount of cash for RnD.I see Sony using a faster blu ray drive and a upgraded 3-4 core Cell.A fair enough Gpu and memory shouldn't cost too much.

  • theonlyix #164 4 months ago

    @Dewin Not really, alot of Sony shareholders has been complaining that Sony spent too much cash on the PS3 development and production/subventioning and that Sony could actually MAKE som money if the ditched the hardware bit of games industry. And with public companies - you need to NOT waste your shareholders money or they will never invest in you again. With MS on the other hand - it seems that however good sales for the Xbox / entertainment division there is, stocks just dont go up as the company on a whole is hanging on other stuff in first second and third place. The games and entertainment division also has a plan for our livingrooms that is kinected and they will NOT ditch that. Believe me!

  • riseer #165 4 months ago

    @Eurocensor I just don't see that happening.The Playstation brand is still strong.This person is on something that is for sure.

  • shadow651 #166 4 months ago

    very unlikely...
    the playstation has gone from being a simple side product for Sony in the 90s to practically its flagship product, unless we see a large rampant attempt to boost the other portions of the business soon they wont bow out.

    MS are admittedly concentrating on the tablet market at the minute, attempting to gun for Apple's place however there would be little reason for MS to axe their dedicated xbox team especially given the success of the xbox in this gen

    Nintendo however is a different story. Despite it being written off in the article. If the WiiU bombs(which I think it will, not due to any allegiance but because they only managed to shift hardware this gen so many software companies will likely stay away or at the very least casual gamers will fail to buy the console) then Nintendo may limp through the next gen and leave when that ends (probably concentrating on mobile gaming, DS3 or something)

    ...That being said I'm calling BS for all three companies and say that these guys are drumming up false news in order to get attention to their own product, if so tut tut

  • vizzini #167 4 months ago

    @theonlyix

    I'm guessing with the US Navy being reported as one of Sony's customers for PS3 Cell's data processing capabilities(I'm thinking Costner film: No Way Out). I doubt their hardware development balance will contain all the figures they are due to make just yet, over its lifetime in production.

    And if it has still been that useful for DNA sequencing to find cures, at the likes of the Standford folding project, space photograph processing (probably with NASA), I'm sure they've got a few important shareholders that are possibly more interested in the development of the Cell 2 chip and used in a commercial product to make it cheaper by sales volume, than the financial performance of Sony & Playstation at any specific point in time.

  • Lunatic4ever #168 4 months ago

    tired of predictions...it was also predicted that sony was goifn to announce the ps4 at the e3...just shut up if u dont for sure,right?

  • alexbulluk #169 4 months ago

    Never gonna happen.

  • Brownstudy #170 4 months ago

    I have a grim prediction for Xbox. Believe me, I don't want this to happen as I'm an Xbox fan but I think the evidence points towards their next console being a dumb, digital distribution model. Here's why:

    4G is already around the corner. Rolling out now in the US and about 18 months away for much of Europe. 4G promises speeds of at least 100gbps, so no need for broadband connections at all.

    In austere times such as these, the trend moves towards consumers favouring purchases with low initial outlay, even if long term costs are greater.

    MS don't have a next gen optical medium. They may try to reinvigorate HD-DVD but that would involve a hugely expensive marketing battle against the now-established Blu-ray.

    Gamers are already being primed and prepared to accept cloud gaming.

    So, this will mean that the majority of us will be able to play powerful games without MS releasing expensive and risky hardware.

    The problems with this for us gamers are that we will have to subscribe to expensive 'Gamer Pro' 4G services to get the required bandwidth and will never really 'own' our games anymore.

    The masses (not us core gamers, who will become more and more marginalised) will love the low price of the new DumbX, and will be marketed millions of cheap games. The AAA titles will still be available on disk for current 360 owners, but I fear that the 720 will never arrive. By the time our 360s die, the market will have started to accept the digital distribution model completely.

    I really hope this doesn't however and would love to be wrong.

  • darth_paul #171 4 months ago

    lol... and this nonsense achieved what it wanted, a news article! they should worry more about their own system/platform, which so far is only vaporware. Onlive says hi, btw

  • Centrifugal #172 4 months ago

    Awfully coincidental an article on Eurogamer from Gaikai comments knocking consoles appears at the same time as Gaikai's streaming service comes to Eurogamer...

  • Brownstudy #173 4 months ago

    Am I being negged because you disagree or because you don't like my prediction? Or perhaps my writing style is rubbish.

    It was just an opinion...

  • apoc_reg #174 4 months ago

    Er Wiu U is hardly next gen.

    If its games all run at 1080p I'll be amazed.

  • betrayerofhope #175 4 months ago

    I don't know what#s more amusing. The clueless streaming bat wishing one of the hardware companies bow out or the useless xbox fanboys hoping it's sony.

    Note to fanboys. The playstation division contributed a third of of sony's electronics division revenue. Keep hoping.

    Sony is not sega.

  • DRUNK3N-_-DRAGON #176 4 months ago

    @Der_tolle_Emil
    your totally wrong!
    you should look up some history about game consoles and gaming machines lol, xbox defoe did not pave the way..you just sound like a big fanboy who aint got a clue what he is talking about lol.

  • LEONOFDEATH #177 4 months ago

    So Sony has already said that they wont release their next console much later than the next xbox, Which will be coming.

    Nintendo are saying we will see a much clearer idea of what to expect from the wiiu this E3.

    From this, Id say that this claim is false.

    Maybe The gen after this one may see someone drop out, But i think thats too hard to predict.

    We saw how things changed for sony from PS2 to PS3. Right now, Its seeming like Nintendo may not last too much longer in the hardware business, But we could see a massive change with the Wiiu.

    Based on what we know now, Id say nintendo are most likley to be leaving the console side of things.

    But we never know how badly someone can mess things up with this upcoming generation.

  • CHAZBIGPOTATO #178 4 months ago

    @gorf I'm jaelous, that got to be the highest positive score ever!!

  • kalstrams #179 4 months ago

    Sounds fairly possible, considering competitiveness of market.

  • peter1975 #180 4 months ago

    It's easy.... Nintendo last year, microsoft this year and at some point next year sony will join in.

    The race there after will go like this....... Nintendo; complete flop (the ony people playing the Wii are my parents, who are grandparrents, no one else really cares). Microsoft will clean up by bridging all the gaps and sony will be late to the party with too much power and no direction.