Killzone 3 Review

By Dan Whitehead Published 3 February, 2011

Nice guys finish Helghast.

Version tested: PlayStation 3

As the saturation point looms, the first-person shooter pie has been sliced increasingly thin in recent years. The difference between some games is only a few crumbs wide and players have become connoisseurs almost by default, able to discern the subtle shift in flavours between games that, to the untrained eye, are practically identical. We've become fussy gourmands, favouring a Call of Duty or a Medal of Honor based on tiny changes to the recipe.

All of which makes the games that serve up a distinctive taste even more polarising. Killzone 2 was one such dish. I loved its streamlined and ruthless construction, which dipped you into one long, aching push into the Helghan capital to confront and capture Emperor Visari. Where other games hopped between locations and storylines like a hyperactive child, Killzone 2 was all about life as a foot soldier in a crappy situation. The scenery rarely changed, the weapon set remained largely the same and the enemies varied little.

Despite its sci-fi trappings, it felt like a real military campaign where your goal was never more lofty than simply reaching the next objective, traversing a fortified bridge or circumnavigating enemy artillery. Movement was heavy for the genre, as if you were weighed down by the alien atmosphere. It felt muscular and foreboding, a conflict where traditional gung-ho videogame heroics were a quick way to get killed.

This single-minded and semi-realistic approach (shared with the similarly divisive F.E.A.R.) certainly wasn't for everyone. Sadly – for me, anyway – series developer Guerilla has gone out of its way to woo those who didn't click with the previous game's design aesthetic in Killzone 3. The single-player campaign trips over itself in its eagerness to offer something different with each new level, often losing its unique flavour and almost becoming just another slice of FPS pie in the process.

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Jetpacks. Surprisingly easy to control. Still a bit silly.

The story grabs your attention with a cheap but effective "gotcha" opening, then hops back in time six months for around half the game before jumping forward again to bring you back up to date for a Star Wars-style finale. Along the way you'll pilot a mech suit, fly a jet pack, drive a thundering tank made from chainsaws and man numerous turrets, including the obligatory vehicle chase shooting gallery where you blast away at pursuing APCs while your ride follows its scripted, theme-park course.

You'll fight Flood-style alien spiders and lethal Helghan ninja-types who look like they've wandered in from Vanquish. You'll take down not one, but two enormous boss machines by clambering around in their guts or shooting their usefully exposed weak spots. You'll even end up essentially playing After Burner in space.

In terms of environments, you hop from ruined city streets to icy glaciers, from neon subterranean jungles to vast beige junkyards, from pristine laboratories to low-gravity spaceship corridors. There's even an extremely ill-advised stealth section where you can become completely invisible by crouching in a patch of waist-high grass no bigger than a pizza box.

For anyone who found the relentless march of Killzone 2 to be one-note drudgery, this sudden burst of attention-deficit gameplay ideas may well prove enticing. Certainly, there's not much to complain about where the mechanics are concerned. Guerilla is squeezing the PS3 for all its worth and, a couple of frame rate wobbles and NPC quirks aside, everything looks as gorgeous as a war-ravaged toxic planet can realistically be.

Control feels slightly lighter than in the previous game, but it still mercifully resists the lure of run-and-gun bombast. Each enemy encounter requires patience and tactics to get past. The duck-and-slide cover system remains in place, perhaps a little too sticky now for the faster-paced gameplay, but still handy.

More useful is an extra weapon slot, accessed on the d-pad, which now lets you carry a heavy weapon along with your rifle of choice and a pistol. This opens up room for chain guns, rocket launchers and the ever-popular exploding bolt gun to play a more active part.

Also added is the ability for your NPC partner to revive you. In Killzone 2, you could bring them back from a downed state, but they never returned the favour. Now they do. Well, sometimes – as welcome as this is, it's implemented in a haphazard way. With some tough checkpoints and a level of ferocity that means you can easily be killed in less than a second, even on normal difficulty, the uncertainty over your chances of reincarnation leads to frustration in some of the later sections. There's nothing to compare to the headbanging futility of the final battle from Killzone 2, but certain sections may still leave furious teethmarks in your Dual Shock.

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Rico, now looking more like Mickey from Doctor Who than ever.

It's just a shame that the single-player story doesn't trust the intense mano-e-mano confrontations to carry the game. There's a sense of blockbuster creep, where simply having well-matched soldiers face off with each other in an engaging open environment is apparently insufficient to thrill jaded shooter fans. If Killzone 2 echoed the everyman grit of Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan, Killzone 3 frequently feels more like Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor.

The two-man hero team of Sevchenko and Rico help to hold the sprawling tale together, aided by some impressive mo-cap and better-than-average voice performances. However, they're rather overshadowed by the double whammy of theatrical ham supplied by Ray Winstone and Malcolm McDowell as power-hungry Helghan officers vying to take over from the deceased Visari.

Winstone's Stalin-esque Orlock, Admiral of the Helghan space fleet, barks, glowers and snarls like an East End cabbie with a wasp in his underpants. By contrast, McDowell channels Nazi plotters like Goering for his role as Stahl, the head of Helghan weapons development with a sideline in smug psychological wargames and oily betrayal. Both actors know precisely how far over the top they need to go, and the cut-scenes where they clash (most of them) are a real treat.

So it's a shame that, rather than following its own muse, it's now possible to spot where Killzone has drawn obvious inspiration from the likes of Call of Duty, Halo and Gears of War. By slurping up concepts from these rival shooter franchises, Killzone 3 easily ticks all the boxes that modern shooter fans expect without ever really putting its own stamp on the over-familiar elements.

Co-op is another feature that players expect, and after missing the boat with Killzone 2, it makes a long overdue debut here. The results are mixed, quite frankly. Available in offline split-screen mode only, it already falls short of the co-operative experiences being offered elsewhere, and doesn't always show off its own assets in the best way. Co-op also struggles to work with the numerous on-rails sections, but finds its footing in the more traditional FPS stages. Guerilla knows how to craft expansive battlefields without losing sight of linear progression, so there are always multiple ways for playmates to flank and flush out the enemy.

As is often the case with shooters these days, it's online multiplayer where it all falls into place. Freed from the constraints of story, Killzone 3's more nimble controls fit snugly with genre standards and the different ways of playing strike a pleasing balance between what you expect and what you'd hope to see.

Warzone mode is much as you remember, shuffling up different game types in an ongoing buffet of team-based slaughter. The new maps make excellent use of the already varied pathways included for single-player, but widened and tweaked with additional tunnels, vantage points and rat runs. The location-hopping also proves more beneficial here than in the rather disjointed story, giving the eight available maps a nice spread of palettes and weather effects. Party Play is also supported, thank goodness.

Changes have also been made to the career progression. Unlock points are handed out with each new level attained, and can then be used to open up new abilities in any of the different combat classes. Even novice players should be able to hit Level 10 without too much trouble, which grants enough points to max out at least one class. This freedom to chop and change from one class to another without locking yourself into one track makes it easier to try playing the game in different ways, and encourages more experimentation.

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These flamethrower troops are a right pain the arse. Take them out quickly.

Guerilla Warfare is a new addition to the online menu, though it's really just a short, sharp dose of Team Deathmatch. Strange to think such a basic feature is only just making an appearance in Killzone, but it's worth having for the frag-happy killer in a hurry. Operations Mode is more interesting, teasing out a short-form multiplayer story with one team of eight playing as an ISA commando team, with the others cast as Helghast forces out to stop them. Played out over short objective-based sessions, with unique cut-scenes linking them together, it's a fun diversion that ultimately makes the omission of online co-op more disappointing.

The game also supports 3D and Move play, both of which work extremely well. The 3D is particularly impressive, offering subtle gradations of depth and intelligently layering HUD info over the top. It doesn't really add anything to the gameplay, but it ramps up the wow factor and will certainly justify any expensive TV purchases you might be planning to make.

Move gameplay is more of an acquired taste, proving to be surprisingly precise and intuitive during normal movement and gunplay with varying levels of automatic target lock. It only shows its limitations when the single-player starts getting all vehicular, and judged as a showcase of how motion control can work in a hardcore FPS environment, it sets a high standard. The proposed assault rifle peripheral looks pretty sweet as well.

Fans of Killzone 2 will love the improved multiplayer, but may find that the single-player side of things has lost a lot of its identity. It's always polished and breathlessly paced, but it no longer offers a distinct change of pace from the rest of the shooter herd. Killzone 3 is a powerful, impressive game that sets an imposing standard for Sony's 3D, Move-enabled future output; it's just a shame that in doing so, it's lost just a little of what made the series stand out in the first place.

8 / 10

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Comments (211) Latest comment 1 year ago

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  • Inertia #1 1 year ago

    I love kittens and world peace.

    Edited by Inertia at 03/02/11 @ 19:36

  • Mnia786 #2 1 year ago

    Would have thought the 3d alone would merit it a decent score - its a technological marvel in that sense ;/

    ROFL: Negged to death for mentioning 3d? fucking trolls.
    Edited by Mnia786 at 03/02/11 @ 18:52

  • Deckard1 #3 1 year ago

    Oh god this comment sections is just about to get embarrassing.

  • convercide #4 1 year ago

    Wait... 8/10 isn't a decent score?

    That's a "buy at launch" score.

  • karooo #5 1 year ago

    Good score.

    Cant wait to play it. People who are in doubt can download the demo and check it out. Killzone is generally not for everyone though.

  • handsonhips101 #6 1 year ago

    And so it begins......

    Where's coolbrittania.....

  • TheTrueSpin #7 1 year ago

    Kind of what I was expected... 8 is a good score.

  • beastmaster #8 1 year ago

    Decent score. Now to play the demos and await Edge & Games TM scores.

  • RobotRocker #9 1 year ago

    As good as Halo:CE then?

  • chaywa #10 1 year ago

    Won't someone please think of the Metacritic
    /sarcasm

  • KRadiation #11 1 year ago

    So.... what DID make the series stand out in the first place?

  • RodHull #12 1 year ago

    Good score, will definitely buy at some point to try out the multiplayer, an area that has been severely lacking in the first two games.

  • FutureDave #13 1 year ago

    I'll definitely be playing it, but I was hoping for much more improvement in the campaign. Couldn't give a crap about the multi-player.

  • TheTrueSpin #14 1 year ago

    As good as Red Dead Redemption then... That scored at 8 on Eurogamer didn't it?
    Edited by TheTrueSpin at 03/02/11 @ 17:16

  • wizlon #15 1 year ago

    Shame it doesn't sound as visceral as 2, but I bet it's still one hell of a ride.

  • joelstinton #16 1 year ago

    Kind of dissapointed that it lost some of its identity to all of its peers. It seems that we have reached hollywood games syndrome. Whilst these games are big, explosive fun, is it worth paying the cash to play re-skinned games, instead of forking out for games that try something different? I have this on pre-order, i now have to decide whether the multiplayer is worth 40 quid and to be honest whilst beta is fun, i have been getting just as much or more fun from AC:BH mulitplayer.
    Edited by joelstinton at 03/02/11 @ 17:35

  • Ranger101 #17 1 year ago

    S'ok, PS3 owners have killer apps in the form of Drakes Uncharted, God of War 3 and Demon Souls anyway - this is just generic icing.

    /360owner
    Edited by Ranger101 at 03/02/11 @ 17:21

  • DDevil #18 1 year ago

    Killzone was poo, Killzone 2 was OK (too grey and samey for my liking) so this is not unexpected.

  • Mkwone #19 1 year ago

    8/10 but game XXX scored 9/10 Typical EG Fanboyism again.

  • Triggerhappytel #20 1 year ago

    I'm getting it, but i can't fucking believe they still haven't managed two player online co-op. If Haze can do excellent four player drop-in drop-out co-op, I bloody well expect something almost as good from Sony's flagship FPS over two years later.

  • inutaihanyou #21 1 year ago

    Still, i'll buy it. It seems like an above average FPS from what i've seen of it. But it does grind my teeth that more and more developers are pulling a "Medal Of Honor" in which all of your standard setpieces have to be ripped from other games in order to fit the "modern gamers" expectations

  • FogHeart #22 1 year ago

    Guerilla said the number one complaint about Killzone 2 was the lack of variation in the environments. They change that...and are criticised for it here.

    Hm.

  • des #23 1 year ago

    "As good as Red Dead Redemption then... That scored at 8 on Eurogamer didn't it?"

    Yeah,it just shows how EG is clueless about good games.

  • butler` #24 1 year ago

    Boring hell. Can't see as I'm going to pay more than £20ish for this tbh.

    Not because 8/10 is a bad score, but because it's an 8/10 FPS.

  • stevetuck #25 1 year ago

    ZOMG NOT A 10/10 PS3 SUXXXX LULZ

    how did my xbox fanboy impression go? :D

  • inutaihanyou #26 1 year ago

    8/10 is a good score. It scored same as BO, which apparently did a few good things to have so many online players.

    Not that i hold anything against KZ or BO, cause i'm not on with with the FPS hate train. Its just that fanboys need not come around if they're lookin to start trouble.

  • billy-beauts #27 1 year ago

    Twice as good as Mafia 2 then.
    Edited by billy-beauts at 03/02/11 @ 17:29

  • customfirmware #28 1 year ago

    Glad to hear the 3d and move is well implemented. Can't wait to play this.

  • richarddavies #29 1 year ago

    Have to admit I wasn't taken with Killzone 2. I finised it but found it a bit of a chore. I enjoyed the Beta for this though and the single player sounds good so I think i'll give it another shot.

  • RedSparrows #30 1 year ago

    FogHeart - Responding to a complaint does not mean it's necessarily done well, our as well as could be.

  • SeesThroughAll #31 1 year ago

    @stevetuck: I think fanboyism just got old on everyone.

    Purchase seems to depend on how much you value SP and MP...

    KZ3 singleplayer not as good as KZ2 singleplayer
    KZ3 multiplayer slightly better than KZ2 multiplayer
    Nevertheless, I guess it's unmissable for people keen on using Move on an FPS.
    Edited by SeesThroughAll at 03/02/11 @ 17:33

  • lambtron #32 1 year ago

    "I'm getting it, but i can't fucking believe they still haven't managed two player online co-op. If Haze can do excellent four player drop-in drop-out co-op, I bloody well expect something almost as good from Sony's flagship FPS over two years later. "

    Yes, but Haze was shit both in technological and gameplay terms. Hardly a fair comparison. Killzone is probably the best looking shooter of this generation and I'm guessing it's architecture would not make coop easy to implement.

  • HisDudness #33 1 year ago

    Nice job Guerrilla, take a quick vacation, and then get dug in on giving us a fresh new IP with this beautiful engine you've created!

  • Widge #34 1 year ago

    So it seems the criticisms of samey environments and foes have been on GG's hit list, but have killed the very thing Dan enjoyed...

  • Goodfella #35 1 year ago

    Have to admit I wasn't taken with Killzone 2. I finised it but found it a bit of a chore.

    I was pretty much the same, looked mighty purty though.

    I'll probably get Killzone 3 but mainly to give the old Move controller a workout.

  • Noble6 #36 1 year ago

    8/10, very good score.

  • bdc #37 1 year ago

    Off-line splitscreen? Yeah, ok.

  • Triggerhappytel #38 1 year ago

    @Lambtron

    Well then, what about Halo: Reach or Gears of War 2 then instead? I don't mind losing a bit of graphical prowess if it means Guerrilla can include online co-op. I don't think it's too big an ask from a major FPS in 2011 when you're always with an NPC anyway.

    Edit - why is this comment voted down when my previous one using Haze as an example was marked up?! I only mention Gears 2 & Halo Reach as two decent attractive games with online co-op. I had hoped for the same from Killzone 3. I'll still buy it but online co-op would have been a nice bonus.
    Edited by Triggerhappytel at 03/02/11 @ 19:32

  • captain_Carl #39 1 year ago

    Wish you'd written more than a paragraph on Move controls, but still, not a bad review

  • VandelayIndustries #40 1 year ago

    Sounds like Dan is in agreement with the chap from Treyarch, who was bemoaning the internet whiners for stifling creativity and individualism in game-making. I also agree.

    Still, I'm sure I'll have fun with it.

  • TopKatt #41 1 year ago

    Okay, so it's not quite as good as Noby Noby Boy, but it's still a day one purchase for me.

  • DiamondIce #42 1 year ago

    I never finished KZ2's campaign which is quite rare for me these days. It felt like a chore and Dan's positives from KZ2 are my negatives.

    I hope to hear more positive aspects regarding the campaign as I don't care about the online modes.

  • ronuds #43 1 year ago

    @lambtron

    So... graphics over substance then?

  • stephenb #44 1 year ago

    Yay! We don't need to change our clan tag.

  • Spydy #45 1 year ago

    Hated the single player campaign in KZ2 and the multiplayer was poor. Looking forward to this.

  • TheHammerite #46 1 year ago

    Will there be dropships? I cant imagine a fps without lovely dropships

  • morriss #47 1 year ago

    Another essential, unmissable, AAA, PS3 10/10 game exclusive.

  • NewbieZilla #48 1 year ago

    The first Killzone was ok. The 2nd one threw in some stupid tacked on motion control bollox that made me wonder what its fans are smoking. The third? Just using another fad.

  • NotSoSlim #49 1 year ago

    Some of the comments on here are a joke. Guerilla change the environments and controls that everyone bitched about and still pathetic fanboy comments.

    Anyway 8 seems to be the fps average nowadays

  • irrelevanthuman #50 1 year ago

    Sounds good, and even if the single player disappoints, I am personally more interested in the MP anyway. MP almost always seems like the purest distillation of the shooter genre nowadays. Which is fine with me, but perhaps certain devs should drop narrative altogether and leave the likes of Valve to fill that gap.

  • GamesConnoisseur #51 1 year ago

    Also found KZ2 SP a bit of chore and was quite annoyed with AI and invisible spawnings/trip zones but still thought the experience was quite distinct and identifiably strong.

    Looked forward to KZ3 for a while since GG announced improvements in control lag, which was my biggest bugbear, even was hoping for critically positive review. This is still pretty decent and still dead set on getting it. But please can we try not to declare EG liars, fanboy, unprofessional etc etc when people haven't really themselves played whole game to form their own opinion either way!

    Yes sensible to check other reputable reviewers, and no ign doesn't really count!

  • Miths #52 1 year ago

    I'll start the singleplayer campaign, but finishing it is less important (never did with the KZ2 campaign) as multiplayer is definitely my main reason for getting this game.
    KZ2 was one of my favourite online shooter experiences, so with the improvements made I'm expecting KZ3 to be fantastic in that area.

    I'm looking forward to see if I can get the hang of using Move + Nav controller, but I was never exactly a particularly talented FPS player with a gamepad (or mouse and keyboard on PC) so it's not like a have a lot to lose by trying :).
    I'm about to dive into the demo/open beta now, so I guess I'll figure out soon enough.

  • inutaihanyou #53 1 year ago

    When KZ1 came out it was almost panned universally. KZ2 largely ended the graphical glitches of the first and made it more fun with a great graphical upgrade, but took out offline multiplayer and was almost all reddish brown, not to mention taking out 2 of the 4 great characters from the first and killing off one which only left a new and largely uninteresting partner with foul mouthed Rico in tow.

    From what i'm getting of this review, KZ3 with its co op options, more scale, and better support for peripherals makes it the best KZ yet.

    I wasn't impressed with KZ1 as a PS2 title, and KZ2 lacked a few things while making other things better, but i think Guerrilla is a good developer and this effort deserves to be bought by any PS3 fan with a FPS trigger finger

  • HokutoNoKen #54 1 year ago

    Gametrailers:
    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review... ( 9.4 / 10 )

    CVG:
    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/286... ( 8.5 / 10 )

    IGN
    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1147560p... ( 8.5 / 10 )

    Gamespot
    http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killz... ( 8.5 / 10 )

    / Ken
    Edited by HokutoNoKen at 03/02/11 @ 18:20

  • Skurmedel #55 1 year ago

    Will it outshitstorm the Darkfall or Halo 3 threads though? Unibet should run bets on these things.

  • rockin_rob_1 #56 1 year ago

    I usually hate FPS, not to be different, it's personal taste- i just dont get the hopping about from one scenario to the next in COD etc and single player mode always comes before multiplayer for me. However I absolutely loved Kilzone 2, it was the only FPS (other than Goldeneye- back in the day) that really held my attention and enjoyed playing. So I'm sad to hear this is a bit more of a generic shooter including the hopping around bits, I'll have to play it for myself to judge and will be basing my purchase on my love for the second.

  • digoutyoursoul #57 1 year ago

    i usually hate the playstation community, whiny, crying, hypocritical, casual gobshites. having said that i must be one aswell as i'm getting this, 8/10 is a good score ffs. just some of you remember that when a couple of other high profile games on other platforms are reviewed.

  • marcgiu #58 1 year ago

    only just better than first strike then:)

  • man.the.king #59 1 year ago

    Looking forward to playing this with Move on my 3DTV!

    About the review, it seemed Whitehead spent the first two pages comparing the story, pacing and set-pieces between KZ2 and KZ3, and then used the last page to hurriedly describe the game, and the focused pace of KZ2 and KZ3's reliance on set-pieces is what seems to have resulted in the lower net score. If that's what Dan feels, fair enough.

    For me, reading between the lines, it's still a game I want, for the gameplay, Move, 3D, and visuals.

    /pre-ordered

  • coldfoot #60 1 year ago

    I think the shooter genre is so overcrowded that it's impossible to innovate anything new without risking sales. I have a 3DTV so this is a must for me.

  • king26 #61 1 year ago

    My most eagerly awaited game this year, despite this score (8 is still very good) I think this will be my shooter of choice this year..However despite it 'loosing its identity' the review read like a nine for me

  • darkphoenix #62 1 year ago

    not-so-good single player?
    great, one to buy when in bargain.
    Edited by darkphoenix at 03/02/11 @ 18:36

  • mrblonde #63 1 year ago

    The score is as expected but the promise of big battles and no constant re-spawning enemies, will be a refreshing change to CODBOs terribly disappointing, linear SP campaign. I also think the FPS multi player arena has stagnated with every game being a run and gun team death match, im bored of it all after 4 years of the "next gen".
    Only the battlefield games, with its destruction and vehicles offers any variety in the fps market IMO.
    Still buying this though as the ps3 is very short of decent , exclusive all out shooters, unlike the X-BOX360 which has imo , the amazing halo reach and the gears series still unmatched on sonys platform.
    Edited by mrblonde at 03/02/11 @ 19:18

  • Supposedcorpse #64 1 year ago

    8/10 is a good score, but the review here isn't great in my opinion.

  • xero521 #65 1 year ago

    not really arsed about reveiw scores, killzone rocks! after playin the online this morning i cant wait to get home it pisses on cod blops imo

  • kirankara #66 1 year ago

    Personally think sp on shooters just are crap these days full stop. Didnt like mw2 sp, thought black ops was worst sp ive ever played, Bc2 sp was better(still best mp shooter on ps3 imo, although kz3 looks worth playing for mp). and think gears of war and halo sp are overated as well, reach was mheh and gears was mindless and shallow. Halo 3 was last sp shooter i enjoyed and still got bored eventually.

    Mp on shooters lack innovation , i hope homefront will be something more interesting, as crysis 2 was let down imo. Ill stick to blops(360, ps3 was abomination) , reach and bc2 and nam for now, maybe pick up kz3 later down line, as its good, damn good, just not enough to make me abandon the games ive got and part with £40
    Edited by kirankara at 03/02/11 @ 18:46

  • JediMasterMalik #67 1 year ago

    I will happily buy this just for the graphics, that it's a decent game also is just a bonus.

  • king26 #68 1 year ago

    KZ3 expands and builds upon KZ2 like all great sequals should, just look at great films such as Star Wars and The Lord of the Rings. This reviewer doesnt seem to understand that as a AAA sequal KZ3 gives the players more than in KZ2. There seems to be to much nitpicking in this review (some characters have very good voice acting others excellent, somehow making the game worse!). The weighty feel is still there (KZ personality) which KZ fans still love and the aiming has been improved. There are no longer any shooters capable of true innovation any more just improving already tried formulas, something which KZ3 seems to have done superbly.
    Edited by king26 at 03/02/11 @ 18:54

  • mrblonde #69 1 year ago

    I for one am glad their is no real co-op in K3, as IMO it has ruined enough titles campaigns this generation allready, forcing co op on us gamers who prefer to play alone.(capcom are the worst for this IMO) MW2 seperate missions did it right for a fps with co-op

  • pantherjag #70 1 year ago

    Well over the last 45 minutes iv just read 5 reviews of killzone 3 and this is by far the most critical, in fact as i read through it i fully expected a 6 or 7 to be at the bottom of the screen and was actually surprised to see the 8.

    Anyways for info destuctoid gave KZ3 a 10, sixth axis a 9, cvg and ign both gave 8.5

    Played the mutiplayer beta this afternoon for a while and quite enjoyed it, only played against bots but thats because i wanted to try it using the move which i found to be very intuative and more than capable against the bots, other humans may be a different story(havent tried yet)

    Will def be getting this on release and i suspect il play single player with move and multiplayer with the DS3

  • kirankara #71 1 year ago

    @Quagmire_Azul

    I tend to see far more retarded 360 fan boys on here than ps3 fan boys (usually on face offs, and usually with no idea about the technical aspects of the issues at hand either), but have to concede, that ps3 fan boys are retarded too.

    Think ppl need to get a frickin life, if they get so emotional and antagonistic towards ppl based upon their console of choice.

    I own both and think both are great with pros and cons.

    kz3 is great looking game and plays as good as any other shooter out there from what ive played, its just not different enough for me to justify buying it now when i got three great examples of the genre already.

  • technicianTed #72 1 year ago

    I quite enjoyed the single player mode in killzone 2, as i don't multiplayer that much(unless it's co op)it's a bit disappointing to read the single player in killzone 3 has lost some of its impact.

    It was never the best fps game ever, but i enjoyed killzone 2 enough to give this a look(maybe a rental).

  • kirankara #73 1 year ago

    would personally ignore the review ted if i was u, everyone raved about the sp in black ops and that was horrendously boring imo, just get game and make ur own mind up

  • kirankara #74 1 year ago

    would personally ignore the review ted if i was u, everyone raved about the sp in black ops and that was horrendously boring imo, just get game and make ur own mind up

  • Badassbab #75 1 year ago

    Was expecting a 9 but still getting it.

  • mrblonde #76 1 year ago

    " Think ppl need to get a frickin life, if they get so emotional and antagonistic towards ppl based upon their console of choice. "



    I know what you mean BUT you could say the same thing about fanatical football fans who support their teams (even getting violent).
    I own both but "support "Microsoft quite passionately and want them to" score" (Sony have given away far to many "own goals" to catch them this season) if you will, as IMO its a far better console on many levels.

    Anyway killzone series is above average but i think the wait goes on for Sony to develop a FPS to match halo's sales and brand. recognition. No doubt , as usual , Sony will stifle killzone3 chance at success by a sparse and poor advertising campaign.
    Edited by mrblonde at 03/02/11 @ 19:38

  • Geordiemp #77 1 year ago

    Why put in local coop but no online coop....

    I just dont get it, was excited for a coop campaign but now seems missed opportunity...

  • Geordiemp #78 1 year ago

    Why put in local coop but no online coop....

    I just dont get it, was excited for a coop campaign but now seems missed opportunity...

  • kirankara #79 1 year ago

    mrblonde


    Dunno Sony seems at least in europe(excluding uk) , Japan, Australia that Sony is the dominant force, whilst usa and uk 360 is the more powerful force.

    Personally detest Ms as a company, and trust them as far as i could throw them, and whilst I hated Sony during their ps2 years when they were at peak of their powers, I still would say that I think they care more about innovation and creativity with games market than MS, who seem to just throw money at everything for success. However, I think that they would gladly screw us customers into ground, if they had monopoly of market too.

    I want to play the best games, and want whatever i need to do that, but I cant say id root for either of them. I think the competition is essential to get best deal for us gamers, as otherwise, if one is dominant then they'll abuse that position, with us ultimately losing out.

  • jackdoe #80 1 year ago

    Fair review. Though I find it funny that what the reviewer viewed as positives from KZ2's SP campaign, a LOT of people viewed as negatives. Which is why Guerilla made the change. Personally, I liked the aesthetic from KZ2, but I don't mind variety in my environments.

  • darc #81 1 year ago

    What's on offer for 3D TV owners in the offline co-op mode? Will it do split-screen and 3D at the same time? Will it do two independent (2D) full-screen views for two players wearing 3D glasses? (Either would be cool, the latter would be cooler...)

  • PearOfAnguish #82 1 year ago

    "how did my ps3 fanboy impression go?"

    Not bad, I give it 8/10. You'd get 10 if it was also in 3D.

  • coolbritannia #83 1 year ago

    Cool Britannia is here! 8/10 is how I would have scored the other games, they'd be unremarkable on 360, I think the scarcity of decent PS3 exclusive shooters helped Killzone 2's reputation, along with those amazing graphics. Is that fanboy-tastic? Because I feel I'm being quite fair.

  • coolbritannia #84 1 year ago

    Cabbit, please don't call Black Ops the leading FPS ever again. Or I'll beat you with my guitar.

  • Machiavellian #85 1 year ago

    From reading a few reviews, it does appear that Guerrilla tried to address all those negative points about the 2nd game in KZ3. I guess you have to realize that the amount of money being spent for the series Sony or Guerrilla cannot ill afford to keep features that only appealed to a small set of people. Its bad that it has to be that way but devs do have to manage what they like to do and what actually sells games (new games not used or discounted).

    I personally did not have any problems with KZ2 controls but I did become bored with the campaign and never finished it. It appears that KZ3 campaign has the set pieces of COD but also has a terrible plot and poor motivation to finishing the campaign besides seeing the next level. If this is the case, I am sure for most people that value a solid Single Player game, KZ3 will not hit the right spot.

    As I get older, I play less and less multiplayer and more co-op. The fact that two player online co-op is missing is a big miss for me. None of my friends live close or even in the same city. Only having offline co-op lessen the value for KZ3 and probably has regulated the game to discounted purchase.

  • jackdoe #86 1 year ago

    @Machiavellian: Correction. According to reviews, it seems to have the set pieces of CoD along with the disjointed narrative of MW2. Because, really, my motivation for completing MW2's campaign was just to see the next level. I didn't give a shit about Price, or Soap, or any of the random characters that get killed for shock value and I was scratching my head at numerous plot decisions (and twists; really General? That's your motivation for all that you've done in the game?).

    But I'll have to play KZ3's single player to see if it is anywhere near that disjointed.

  • coldfoot #87 1 year ago

    For the record, I don't foresee Crysis 2, Battlefield 3 (Console version), or Resistance 3 getting anything more than 8/10 for Dan either. If you want originality, you don't buy a FPS game to begin with. For my originality fix, I plan to get Dark Souls.
    Edited by coldfoot at 03/02/11 @ 20:39

  • ElNino9 #88 1 year ago

    My god, the graphics on this game are SHIT!

    poweroftehcelllololololol

  • Smoped #89 1 year ago

    I'm sure some people neg messages just for shits and giggles.

  • ZizouFC #90 1 year ago

    NEG ME!

  • irrelevanthuman #91 1 year ago

    Just had a quick go before dinner, move integration seems bloody good, much more intuitive than MAG. Looking forward to a longer session tonight when Irrelevanthumanfemale has gone to bed.

  • Diomedes #92 1 year ago

    So you nitpicked KZ2 because of the "slow" controls and now that they introduce faster ones like COD you nitpick about it having lost its soul because of the faster controls...

    The game is better that KZ2 ....better campaign ,better online ,better visuals. An 8 isnt a fair score ,and you know it.

  • flibbles #93 1 year ago

    I tried to like it but it just isn't for me, I'm so used to and enjoy the COD franchise that this just doesn't do it for me. Probably more of an issue with me than the game, needless to say I wont be buying it.

    The one think that really twists my nibblets is the camoflage perk, what a load of cock that is!

  • Machiavellian #94 1 year ago

    So you nitpicked KZ2 because of the "slow" controls and now that they introduce faster ones like COD you nitpick about it having lost its soul because of the faster controls...

    The game is better that KZ2 ....better campaign ,better online ,better visuals. An 8 isnt a fair score ,and you know it.

    Would 8.5 be a better score for you since KZ3 is receiving a few of those types of scores. Why even go on the score and just read the article since some things might be weighted for a overall score more towards your taste or not. For people that Like MP, it appears from a few reviews that KZ3 delivers. For people that like SinglePlayer and Online Co-op, KZ3 is lacking. Both camps are looking for something totally different and while the game might be an 8 or better for those MP looking players, for SP it might score less.

  • RESIDENT_nEVILe #95 1 year ago

    Sounds promising!

    Recently I have realised that (for me) most Eurogamer reviews for sequels are written in opposite-land by opposite-people.

    Where EG sees the generic - I see intentional perfection of the genre. Where EG sees convolution - I see personality. Where EG sees ease of access and improvements - I see dumbing down and conformity.

    This review sounds fair enough - but I am guessing that a lot of people that had issue with the controls of KZ2 will probably love KZ3.

  • Hei #96 1 year ago

    It's eurogamer, not surprising
    You guys should read other reviews

  • Widge #97 1 year ago

    Do be aware that Dan gave KZ2 a 9 and he stated the reasons why he took this down to an 8. This is not a set in stone benchmark of goodness for the game, its how he sees it. If you look at the justification and it is at odds with the way you see things, internally come to your own conclusion of worth.

  • Negotiator #98 1 year ago

    Bulletstorm it is then.

  • Shabtai #99 1 year ago

    I guess EG were also limited to 30 minutes in reviewing the MP at a Sony event? ( http://megaderived.co.uk/?p=191 )
    If the EG reviewer was also limited in that fashion, i find it rather disappointing that this review is supposed to cover the MP side as well. There's no way the MP portion can be addressed based on that.

  • Daeltaja #100 1 year ago

    Jim Sterling gave this a 10 over at Destructoid. Never really did get into Killzone and will probably get Bulletstorm over this, but the multiplayer does look rather tasty.

  • makeamazing #101 1 year ago

    Played the mp demo and its quite nice, taking a bit of effort to get used to move with it, but its quite fluid. I am pretty sure i will like this game and will get it at some point, but isnt an 8 good these days? I seriously worry about the mental state of internet dwellers these days, its all about beating someone else over the head with a score... oooh it got an 8 it must be crap type stuff. If it had got an 9 it would have been it only got a 9, and if it got a 10, it would be haha look our game is better than your game. Seriously if you like KZ you will most likely like this killzone.

    Bulletstorm it is then.

    Not sure about BS to be honest... i am not a big fan of any game that uses over the top swearing to get its message across... yeah i know thats part of its apparent appeal, but i am not a big lover of swearing to start with. In games/Movies when they over do it, its usually due to bad writing. Some of the scale of BS did look very nice though...
    Edited by makeamazing at 03/02/11 @ 22:45

  • Widge #102 1 year ago

    Interesting, since Jim Sterling has previously been penned as an avid PS3 hater in the past.

  • Daeltaja #103 1 year ago

    True that swearing can be a symptom of bad writing and lack of imagination but if it fits within the context of the game then it might just work. The scale indeed is impressive. In the video with the giant boss coming out of the ground, with collapsing skyscrapers in the distance, looked immense.

    I can see the core mechanic getting a bit boring after the first few levels, but anyway, I'm going off topic! I'll likely snag this at some point anyway. Been itching for a new online shooter, I refuse to even give a COD game a look and I'm a bit burnt on Bad Company 2.

  • coolbritannia #104 1 year ago

    Cabbit, you say that about Bulletstorm but love Black Ops? You sir, crack me up.

  • darkmorgado #105 1 year ago

    "Jim Sterling gave this a 10 over at Destructoid."

    JimSterlinglol

  • darkmorgado #106 1 year ago

    You say Bulletstorm is crap?

    I assume you have played and completed it then?

  • darkos87 #107 1 year ago

    I didn't particularly like Killzone's 2 story (didn't know what the fuck was happening most of the time) but the ending was very powerful and epic (kind of God of War 2 epic... So I'll probably pick it up.

    Sad to hear it's gone the way of COD... pff why does every game have to go the way of COD...

  • PearOfAnguish #108 1 year ago

    "Then when it came out over here they deleted the import review and re-reviewed it"

    Deleted it huh? But what is this?

    Dimwit. Still, let's not let it get in the way of your conspiracy theory about how they give every game you like a bad* review.

    Also take note of the different names under each review. This is a very simple concept but one which many seem to find hard to grasp: different people have different opinions, and just because they're all writing for the same site does not mean they agree.


    *less than 10/10
    Edited by PearOfAnguish at 03/02/11 @ 23:45

  • Gazza_UK #109 1 year ago

    So essentially your saying that Killzone 3 is a lesser game because they listened to the demands of their fans and critics? Turns out we dont like originality then. Look how many people go to watch parody films (disaster movie, meet the spartans) god dammit!

  • PearOfAnguish #110 1 year ago

    Tag was broken, try it again, shit for brains. If you find this tricky, search for the game and click Articles, and there are two reviews prominently displayed.

    Yes someone having a different opinion is bollocks well done. Care to explain, or did you not think that far ahead?

  • darkmorgado #111 1 year ago

    "Well no to be fair not. There could be a possibilty there is some hidden depth and thought that's gone into it that the demo didn't show. But you don't have to be a genius to realise that this is a shooty, shooty, bang, bang, bling bollocks thing with lots of swearing and lots of big explosions etc etc. This is how the devs want you to view the game and it's clear the chav audience is the target. I mean the fucking name gives it away ... BULLET STORM ffs. Hardly looking to atract the artsy, thinking man is it. "

    Yes, because KILL ZONE is a really mature, meaningful name. And it has so much depth to its shooty bang bang explosions. Oh I'm sorry, it's a meaningul treatise on the horrors of war and the trauma it induces on the human soul.

    Think before you leak your brains on your keyboard.

  • PearOfAnguish #112 1 year ago

    You must have imagined it. As you said before, there are two reviews, one giving it 8, the other 10. Neither of them has been deleted. Unless you're suggesting that there was a 3rd review which again scored it 8, and that one was deleted.

    Perhaps there was a fourth that gave it 1? I bet they did that, the game-hating bastards.

    edit: now who is deleting things hmm?
    Edited by PearOfAnguish at 03/02/11 @ 23:54

  • darkmorgado #113 1 year ago

    It's nowhere near as retarded as Bulletstorm. Agreed it's not very deep. But not ... "fucking shoot the fucking ficker in the fucking head with the fucking chainsaw cannon" type retardation that is bulletstorm.

    Try to stop being a pedantic little faggot please.

    Bulletstorm knows it's immature and doesn't try to hide it. Killzone likes to pretend its some respectable, serious, "mature" game when it's just another "kill everything that moves game" about shooting aliens in space with fuck all story.

    Try to stop being a homophobic little cunt please.

  • Raiko101 #114 1 year ago

    If I had a PS3 i'd be all over this. Loved the original and was fortunate enough to get the chance to play through the second. The guns in these games really feel like they pack a punch. Good stuff!

  • PearOfAnguish #115 1 year ago

    "So how the fuck does a 10 become an 8 and the 8 version of the review says that this game that used to be a 10 isn't as good as ico which got an 8. And you are trying to argue EG reviews are fine? Dick head! "

    Fucking hell you're thick.

    Two different reviews, two different writers. They do not have to agree. Try to understand it, it's really very fucking simple.

    Here's quote from the guy who wrote the 10/10 review in the 8/10 review comments:

    "What confusion? I thought it was a 10, Rob reckoned it was a 10, Tom reckons it's an 8. Gamers in difference of opinion, shock!"

    Cretin!

  • darkmorgado #116 1 year ago

    When was I homophobic?

    Well, calling me a faggot was a hint.

  • darkmorgado #117 1 year ago

    I didn't realise you were gay.

    Oh well that makes it ok then!

    The word "faggot" is offensive no matter how its used, idiot. Do you go around calling people Nigger?

  • darkmorgado #118 1 year ago

    Also: reviews are opinion.

    Don't be a fucking moron by trying to suggest otherwise.

  • darkmorgado #119 1 year ago

    No it isn't. I'm not offended by the word faggot or nigger. If you got offended that's your fault mate. Get thicker skin lol

    I hope to god you're sterile.

    Also: "lol" is not punctuation.
    Edited by darkmorgado at 04/02/11 @ 00:14

  • addyb #120 1 year ago

    Jeez this comment thread has taken a turn for the worse.

    For the record I'm not sure if kill zone 3 or bullet storm will be day one purchases yet. I've enjoyed both demos and like the fact there nothing like each other but both are missing that spark that hooks me instantly. Still both are only demos so will maybe rent the full versions come release and see if any are worthy purchases.

    I think bullet storm will be lots of fun initially but fear for it's longevity. The game mechanics whilst different could get old real fast. As for KZ3 I'm still on the fence multiplayer wise. I'm enjoying it at present but really can't see me putting the hours into it like I did with both modern warfare games. I sold black ops last week due to it becoming real stale for me. MW and MW2 are far better online experiences IMO even with there annoying little glitches and nowadays hackers!

  • darkmorgado #121 1 year ago

    I never said it was. Oh so I should be offended by nigger and faggot now should I?

    You should at least be aware of how they are offensive. And frankly, considering how you had a go at people for making jokes about women on the forum (including one poster who is actually a woman, no less), you're also a massive fucking hypocrite.

  • SeesThroughAll #122 1 year ago

    Wow @ thread.

    Just wow.

  • darkmorgado #123 1 year ago

    I'm not a hypocrit. I like women (well, fit ones) and don't like to see them made fun of.

    And yet you've gone on a rant in the Killzone thread about Ellie and how feminism is just a way for dumb women to make themselves feel equal to men?

  • addyb #124 1 year ago

    Thing i found with black ops was it has the best maps in the cod series but the worst actual gameplay. It just doesn't seem as slick as mw2 and feels a bit rough around the edges. It maybe the best selling cod game to date but that doesn't mean it's the best. Treyarch are riding on the tails of infinity wards success. If mw2 didn't do so well I really don't think black ops would of done as well as it did. Really enjoyed black ops for a couple of mths but think I'm just codded out and the whole fps genre needs a shot in the arm. Not sure how devs can take the genre forward though!

  • coolbritannia #125 1 year ago

    Cabbit, you are a vile, vile creature. I'm neither black, nor gay, but if you called me a faggot or a nigger to my face I'd deck you. Bulletstorm is an arcade style shooter, Kill Zone is not. Different reviewers can give different scores, it's called not being Borg. Kindly fuck off.

  • darkmorgado #126 1 year ago

    The amusing thing is that it is so obvious that Spartan is trying to overcompensate for all the suggestions yesterday that he's in the closet (because of his obsession with muscles, anal sex and gay people) by making loads of references to birds and tits.

    It's embarrassing.

  • addyb #127 1 year ago

    @coolbritannia

    I wouldn't bother with getting wound up with cabbit. You can tell a mile off he's obviously a bit simple. It's always the case when someone just uses foul language constantly because there not clever enough to come up with anything coherent.
    Definite bulletstorm material! :)

  • darkmorgado #128 1 year ago

    Luisten mate. You may be a fucked up shit stabber but don't try and use your gay tricks on me. All the benders i met are like this "hoestly sweety, you are really a gay deep down. Now come back to mine and bum me".

    Most gay men have taste, you know. Don't delude yourself.

  • ninjanutta #129 1 year ago

    I dont care for your childish bickering,its the internet,everyones gobby behind a keyboard,in person,things would be very different.anyway,ive just played this on my sammy 8000 3d with move and ive gotta say im very impressed,easily the best 3d game ive seen so far and the move controls almost give you mouse like accurasy,i was popping head shots in no time,i still prefere the dual shock 3 to be honest but id use move in single player for a fresh feel,multiplayer will be normal controls for though unless the mad gun thats been shown off is as good as it looks.8/10 isnt giving it justice going by the demo,its far better than COD IMO.roll on 22nd.see ya on the battlefield,as long as your adult.
    Edited by ninjanutta at 04/02/11 @ 01:08

  • Mentat_Idaho #130 1 year ago

    I don't get it. The KZ3 open beta has only just started and there is already a review of the full game out? Does this mean that the MP is finalised? If so, what is the point of the open beta?

  • coolbritannia #131 1 year ago

    ha ha, so all gays are paedo's now too? I don't need to deck you, I'll just wait for you to walk into traffic.

  • addyb #132 1 year ago

    @ninjanutta

    Is move really good with it then? I have but put off buying move as I really didn't fancy it but if it's a worthwhile experience with this game I might be tempted to pick it up.

  • coolbritannia #133 1 year ago

    Mentat, maybe by open beta they mean 'demo'

  • Noble6 #134 1 year ago

    I wonder how crysis 2 is going to compare ?

  • Noble6 #135 1 year ago

    @cabbit
    You are nOt welcome here sir.

  • Machiavellian #136 1 year ago

    Man, will you people stop feeding this clown.

  • Noble6 #137 1 year ago

    @Cabbit
    Do you live anywhere near London ? Can I break your bones for the betterment of all humanity ? Much easier being a smart arse over the Internet ain't it ?
    Edited by Noble6 at 04/02/11 @ 01:22

  • geordiek #138 1 year ago

    I only came here to say i liked the killzone demo, and i've seemed to have walked in to the middle of hand bags at dawn :s

  • Noble6 #139 1 year ago

    How am I to break your bones on a fucking forum, your stupid silly little tosser ? Oh right I get it ? didn't realise this was how you kids brawled these days ..... (whack) :( and then a smack x(, and a crack :'( . Happy now ?

  • Noble6 #140 1 year ago

    Goodbye kiddo, have yourself a good night. Oh and try growing up.

  • Noble6 #141 1 year ago

    Wood green, London ? Send me a mail on Eurogamer when you're gonna be about and I'll show you round the neighbourhood haha

  • SeesThroughAll #142 1 year ago

    Worst. Thread. Ever.

    edit: Thank you, mods.
    Edited by SeesThroughAll at 04/02/11 @ 11:06

  • NunianVonFuch #143 1 year ago

    Pretty good score. Been awhile since a decent FPS got above 7 on the PS3 so worth giving the demo a whirl anyway. The Move controls will only be used in single-player by me though, unless they have some Move-Only servers. Was destroyed in MAG anytime I used Move compared to the pad and I've tweaked the controls to death. It's decent for sniping and tracking people as they run by in the middle distance, but turning and shooting in close quarters is just too awkward and always will be imo. Some kind of joypad that you aim?

    Dunno why they didn't stick a thumbstick on the Move as well. Problem would be solved.

  • kaya08 #144 1 year ago

    I used to like the lack of moderation on eurogamer ...

    Pity you cant ban people from existence.

  • RKOwned #145 1 year ago

    So,a Eurogamer 8 is like a real life 9?

  • DRUNK3N-_-DRAGON #146 1 year ago

    i bet the reviewer is a 360 nerd...this deserves better than an 8 godsake black-ops scores higher and that is total awful.

  • Supposedcorpse #147 1 year ago

    Wow there are some sad people posting in this thread!! This is about Killzone right? Why are black and gay people being discussed? GROW UP..

    Anyway, somebody mentioned why this is has a review and the BETA is only out. In short, the code is finished and the game that you can now download is pretty much final code but the reason for the BETA tag is because they are network stress testing. Simple as that.

  • Bonders99 #148 1 year ago

    I came here to comment on the game...and shees page 4 of the comments is a right petulant, personal mud slinging fest. Anyway back to the game. I personally loved KZ2 SP, though I am not a multiplayer person at all, never played KZ2 online, but i quite enjoyed my first blast with the MP Beta last night (was only trying it to check out the control and feel, which seems pretty robust). Played only one game and got an 8 kill streak which impressed my son hehehe. but even then I think I wont bother with the MP just stick to the campaign. Have a good day peeps.

  • irrelevanthuman #149 1 year ago

    Played some more last night with Move, really impressed with its implementation, however, that was against bots, it remains to be seen how I will fare against human opponents, probably end up spinning around in a panic-induced, Move-assisted delirium.
    Its bloody satisfying though, and it seems weird to me now that in other FPSs our field of view and weapon are inextricably bound together.

  • Mentat_Idaho #150 1 year ago

    Someone ban Cabbit please. Our average IQ has plummeted with him around.

  • 00.00.01 #151 1 year ago

    Read the entire thread. Starts game related but ends in a bitch fight...with posters challenging eachother? Tssss...
    .
    *Mumbles something about the 'public'l idea that FPS's turn players more voilent in real life...Not good for gaming image*

  • kdoggdayton #152 1 year ago

    This is what happens when you give geeks a voice

  • mr2ange #153 1 year ago

    It's like a bunch of children at here. how pathetic.

  • coolbritannia #154 1 year ago

    So, how about that Killzone 3 eh chaps?

  • Vanmunt #155 1 year ago

    Luisten mate. You may be a fucked up shit stabber but don't try and use your gay tricks on me. All the benders i met are like this "hoestly sweety, you are really a gay deep down. Now come back to mine and bum me".

    Ha ha.......... I though that was a line from Gareth in the Office... I know you are going to get a ban hammer but that made me really spit my tea out with laughter... you crazy biggot

  • molekiller #156 1 year ago

    Only split screen offline coop?? Is this a N64 game or what? I'll wait until it hits platinum, as the input lag is still there.

  • kangarootoo #157 1 year ago

    Can some mod wake the f*ck up and ban Cabbit. What do you get paid for?


    Edit: thankyou
    Edited by kangarootoo at 04/02/11 @ 09:38

  • Dave52 #158 1 year ago

    Downloaded the Multiplayer Beta last night and it is pretty sweet, it doesn't feel quite as heavy as KZ2, but the tweeks are positive. Anyone who thinks they've gone all COD, ought to try playing it straight after a BLOPS Team Death Match - it's a huge difference. I would have liked on-line campaign co-op as well as couch, but it's not a game-breaker. And it sounds like they could add more Operations Mode levels through DLC.

    This was always gonna be day 1 for me anyway - I am excite.

  • FladgeMangle #159 1 year ago

    Late to the party. Hey! Broken chairs... bloody noses.... Was there fight?

  • Beano #160 1 year ago

    KZ3 looks great - may not have a revolutionary story (which FPS game has this anyway?) but a action packed singleplayer campaign, a solid online mode and the best console FPS graphics, sounds fine by me. Will buy this for sure.

  • WJF #161 1 year ago

    Hmm, sounds better than KZ2, but then KZ2 was a bland, awkward, floaty, sweary, boring game - even more boring than Gears of War (which was pretty bloody boring). Might pick this up when the price inevitably collapses to see if it really has improved.

    One point though, how does wanting different locations equal ADD? Surely variety is a good thing.

  • hello_fi #162 1 year ago

    That last page of comments is fucking hilarious! My only issue is guess who's at the middle of all the attention seeking again? darkmorcuntdo! Whadda surprise!

  • Power_n_Glory #163 1 year ago

    I wonder what Crysis 2 will get? Downloaded the multiplayer, played it a few times and thought it was pretty basic. Played the Killzone 3 beta yesterday and it's pretty decent. I'm impressed so far.

    Not a huge fan of the Killzone franchise but I'm getting this. Loved the sound of the guns in KZ2.

  • SteveHolt #164 1 year ago

    powernglory wrote:" Not a huge fan of the Killzone franchise but I'm getting this. Loved the sound of the guns in KZ2. "

    Yeah, and the reload animations were amazing. Along with gears, this is gun-porn at its very best.

  • king26 #165 1 year ago

    Been playing KZ2 for almost 2 years and the KZ3 BETA seems to have taken large steps forward, best shooter this gen? The only shooter that can challenge this for me will be Battlefield 3!

  • actionfitz #166 1 year ago

    "pilot a mech suit, fly a jet pack, drive a thundering tank made from chainsaws"

    they should put that on the Box Art - would be a best seller lol.

  • kirankara #167 1 year ago

    going to give the mp more time,and make a decision on this, just might give blops on 360 the boot, this seems a solid shooter, with no horrible lag(and ts a beta ffs lol,whats wrong with treyarch???), and a solid hit detection, both of which blops doesnt have.

  • geeza2020 #168 1 year ago

    Bah, missed all the fun :- (

  • sfp_noodle #169 1 year ago

    Considering this site gave Red Dead Redemption, one of my favourite games of 2010 and fave games ever 8/10, I am going to be in for a real treat with Killzone 3. Generally, I'm bored to death of FPS games but Halo and Killzone are the only ones that have offered me something different and refreshing. Can't wait for the 25th, will make a lovely late birthday present for myself :D

  • smithdown #170 1 year ago

    I had a few attempts with Move last night and this morning. It needs some tweaking to get it right, and a lot of practice, but it could be a pretty awesome way to play. You are kinda sacrificing ease of movement for accuracy, so it depends on what you prefer. I did MUCH better with the DS3, but Move is an interesting alternative. I'll probably play through the campaign with Move to get some practice in. The one thing they need to work on is the melee with Move - it's too difficult and inaccurate.

    Overall, demo impressions are good. The singleplayer was always going to be gung-ho over the top bollocks, worth a playthrough but that's it.

    Now, who wants a fight? Come and have a go if you think you're 'ard enough.

  • EmiliasHorse #171 1 year ago

    I was too late to read Cabbit's mindless rantings but it would appear the comments thread is; 50% score reads 8 but really means 10 cos it's EG, 40% Cabbit and his replies and 10% is worthwhile discussion about the game.

  • Curion #172 1 year ago

    Kinda liked killzone 1 and 2 so should enjoy 3. First it is was the so called halo killer,then there was that infamous video for the 2nd game and all the hate re the controlls. Now 3 gets flack for listening to the critics as well having to deliver co op, 3d and move support. Poor old killzone 3!! Don't worry if you don't sell 10 million copies and don't get a 90+ score on metacritic i still plan to buy you.. 8

  • vizzini #173 1 year ago

    Judging by the Open Beta I downloaded and tried out last night, either this is too low a score, or all the rival games like Black Ops didn't deserve more than 6/10 imo.

    From the MP in KZ3 I tried with bots, it already feels like it is in a FPS league of its own for modelling, artwork, camera facing geometry and programmable fragment shader FX; even top end PC GPUs with all their added processing grunt can't turn a 2m square (normal mapped) quad into deformed(tessellated) geometry if the production quality at the art level is missing, KZ2 demo looked great, but this looks much better again.

    The Open Beta reminded of Kamino(SW AotC), where Obi Wan is fighting Jango Fett out in the rain, very, very polished and stylized.

    The game engine seems to run smoothly and is responsive(but not twitchy like MW2 I borrowed), and the use of Move(without assists) certainly made successive headshots much easier than just using a DS3 for me (at my mediocre FPS pad level) once configured.

    I don't believe Move support fully uses the (PSEye)camera, as the Move controller bulb is dark red (not pink like sports champions,Start the party, tumble) and you never see yourself in calibration(similar to time crisis, tiger woods, racket sports, John Daly's ProStroke golf, etc with red bulb); which I believe in Sony's TRCs indicates accelerometer function only of Move.

    But sat about 3meter back from the screen(46”), I slowed the Move sensitivity(to 20%) and widen the dead zone (Horz/Vert 70%) and calibrated with my right arm sat a rest place(on thigh) for pointing at the screen. This seemed to fix the problems of spinning too quickly and made playing with DS3 for left side comfortable enough.

    The reloading action is good, but I couldn't get the melee attack to work on Move, and do wish that there was a small move setup manual (like a downloaded Psone game has from the PS button/XMB) to help separate the confusion from DS3 only setup from Move controls. Melee attacks aren't an action you can guess at the last second(without a MG4 VR training room).

    All in all it was great fun, and likely to be a game I'm buying now, that I previously wasn't. The single player for use with Move will hopefully provide enough value to warrant a purchase; and if friends who are still addicted to Black Ops get it, then I might even entertain some online MP with them.

  • des #174 1 year ago

    Killzone was always shit franchise,nobody cared about it during PS2 days,nobody cares about it now...except some diehard basement nutjobs
    In short who cares if it got 1/10 or 10/10,Sony has 10000x better franchises than this

  • king26 #175 1 year ago

    des- Have to disagree with you there, sure the first was mediocre but KZ2 and it seems KZ3 are top draw games in an overcrowded genre. Series like Killzone and Battlefield in my opinion are where the true FPS fans are. And plenty of people care for Killzone, just not many children who are hooked on halo and COD

  • des #176 1 year ago

    Yeah sure,only children care about COD and Halo, true men like Killzone

  • EmiliasHorse #177 1 year ago

    @King26

    There is a place where "true" FPS fans exist?

  • Zaiz #178 1 year ago

    KZ2's campaign was good? The multiplayer was fantastic, I really enjoyed the thirty or so minutes I got with it(even though most of it was spent trying to make up for not having a mouse). Campaign? Awful. It tried to feel gritty, but it clearly couldn't put enough bodies on screen to make a proper military shooter.

    So, technically, from my perspective, globe hopping inanity must be better, right? o_o Nope. Doesn't look like it. Whatever happened to the days of FPS when you'd spend the entire game with the feeling of each level being a grander conflict instead of a bunch of microconflicts were Blue and Red team happen to be?

    Also, I imagine the multiplayer will be pretty good, provided those nasty rumors about a CoD style spawn system are untrue.

  • king26 #179 1 year ago

    sorry guys didnt mean to come across as such a dick, but to say nobody cares about KZ has a hidden agenda as quite clearly many do care about it. Diehard basement nutjobs? lol

  • man.the.king #180 1 year ago

    Wow - Page 3 (Comments # 101-150 approx) is a disaster-zone! I was looking at the page at work and then had a sinking feeling this page was going to be picked up by the obscenity, racism and homophobia filters.

    A little swearing is fine, but page 3 seemed like Bulletstorm ;)

  • kirankara #181 1 year ago

    man.the.king

    makes u lose faith in humanity doesnt it mate? all that crap whitney sang about the children being our future was lies, we have no future on this evidence

  • Mentat_Idaho #182 1 year ago

    I don't know if it's to do with where I am located, but I've been suffering severe lag on the beta/demo. I really hope they fix it because it seems like it's going to be a great game.

  • UkHardcore23 #183 1 year ago

    Had a feeling GG still couldnt make Killzone into a AAA title!

  • kirankara #184 1 year ago

    Uk hardcore 23 ,
    Give me an example of a aaa shooter please. Based upon the quality of the title rather than quantity sold, cause if u say black ops I'll kill myself laughing, based upon the demo crysis 2 isn't ( sp may save it though) , bc2 is amazing online and nam adds a whole new experience to it, but it certainly isn't great in campaign mode and the mp
    Doesn't appeal to everyone due to slower placed nature of game and larger maps making it less high octane. So I'm struggling here to think of a aaa shooter , halo reach maybe , but again campaign isn't awesome IMO and mp is great fun, but any more so than kz3, going from Demo alone , id say not, with kz3 being an almost perfect mix of bc2 and Cod for me in terms of getting a quick shooter fix( bc2 requires larger investment of time as games last longer) as there's an almost bc2 feel to classes and individuality they have.

    I'd personally say if anything this is more aaa than any of the above titles , if by aaa u mean a high octane blockbuster kind of game that will appeal to masses but with substance too .

    Again I'm not going to buy just yet at least as still have halo reach , bc2 and blops to get money worth out of, but if blops carries on being a lag fest and doesn't get sorted, I'll happily trade it in for kz3.

    Finally I'd like to just say , what happened to people having ability to form independent thoughts??? Why do some people rely on sites to form their opinions ??? U can get an indication of things about a game for sure, but until you experience it urself , then it's pretty meaningless to form an opinion about games based on other peoples experiences as they not your own . Every review i read about gta 4 and red dead redemption told me how marvellous they are, but they were tedious as hell IMO with repetition at almost every step of the way, that once the initial novelty wore off, offered nothing to keep me interested , just go here and shoot this person, go there and repeat ad infinitum.

    Form ur own opinions ppl , ur not sheep, and cerainly don't argue about how good a game is and isn't unless u have played it urself

  • mrblonde #185 1 year ago

    Tbh with the cost of advertising and the astronomical costs of developing killzone2 + and its relative commercial failure, i still cant see K3 bringing the series and sonys massive investment in GG, back into the black.
    With this being a ps3 exclusive (except a small few notable exceptions) i expect first month WW sales(i.e. where 99% titles make vast ,majority of their money) to be no more than 1.5 million WW. Cod blops (psn top title) haven't been out long, plus map packs are incoming and more importantly the killzone series are marmite games, with the last game being a beautiful looking BUT generic FPS.

    Also quite controversially i might add that ps3 gamers love to rave about their exclusives but going off sales figures not all that many seem to actually buy them.
    Compare this to MS's much maligned but hugely successful Halo and Gears brands , each one beating 99% percent of ps3 exclusives all time sales, in their first few weeks!!!. Resistance fall of man up untill late 2009 was the only ps3 game to sell over 1mil copies ,in what is the worlds biggest market, America. hard facts but the unpalatable truth for sony.
    Edited by mrblonde at 05/02/11 @ 03:02

  • TwitchyMcTwitch #186 1 year ago

    The game is great who cares about the stupid score.

  • Dom4321 #187 1 year ago

    I care about the score. Was really underwhelmed by the last one, if this one got a really high score I might have given it another chance, even though an 8 is good, it's not enough for me to bother with just yet.

  • kirankara #188 1 year ago

    @Blastbox

    The whole eurogamer bias accusations start to gather weight after a while dont they, i got an email advertising first strike for sale on 360 other day.

    In all seriousness though, i really like the kz3 beta, but im not sure its as polished all round as halo reach, Reach just has more game types etc. Hard to judge kz3 on basis of one level though. If people are criticising this game on basis of its storyline in sp, then tbh i think they should actually be able to give me a game with decent storyline in this genre, they are all awful. The best one ive come across was original halo on xbox, and i stopped listening to that before end and just didnt care anymore. Black ops story and the campaign itself were awful, yet kz3 gets slated for simply having a weak story, despite people saying the gameplay itself is very strong.

    Will i buy kz3, not sure, ive got bc2, Reach and black ops, but if black ops carries on lagging like hell, then ill no doubt get kz3 and trade in black ops.Its not quite the stellar experience id hoped for, but then Im struggling to think of a game in this genre that has had that effect for a long time. Crysis 2 seems very underwhelming based on the demo, and bulletstorm was fun but seemed very shallow and lacking long term allure.Black ops, is , well .... it's call of duty. Its fun and manic, but has its faults, and Treyarch seems to have made the most broken call of duty ever.if we looking for a new shooter, homefront is last hope i think, but kz3 is a very solid and fun shooter that is as good as pretty much anything of it's ilk out there. Its got a feel of a cod.bc2 combination , and works great, just seems to lack a bit of anything to really set it apart from anything else out there.

    @Dom4321

    can u not make your own decisions?? an 8 is very respectable surely? what were u expecting from this game? reinvention of the wheel? its another shooter with on line multi player shooting, with more shooting, and some shooting thrown in just in case there wasnt enough shooting. If u looking for a solid ps3 fps, here it is, if u not interested in shooting things, well, this isnt game for u even later down the line. I dont think id give any fps a score of 8/10 anymore, as theyre all very similar, with same ideas rehashed again and again, but some are just better done. They are usually fun online, with campaign being pretty dull with weak storylines that are cliched unintentional parodies of moronic action fliks

  • kirankara #189 1 year ago

    @Blastbox

    The whole eurogamer bias accusations start to gather weight after a while dont they, i got an email advertising first strike for sale on 360 other day.

    In all seriousness though, i really like the kz3 beta, but im not sure its as polished all round as halo reach, Reach just has more game types etc. Hard to judge kz3 on basis of one level though. If people are criticising this game on basis of its storyline in sp, then tbh i think they should actually be able to give me a game with decent storyline in this genre, they are all awful. The best one ive come across was original halo on xbox, and i stopped listening to that before end and just didnt care anymore. Black ops story and the campaign itself were awful, yet kz3 gets slated for simply having a weak story, despite people saying the gameplay itself is very strong.

    Will i buy kz3, not sure, ive got bc2, Reach and black ops, but if black ops carries on lagging like hell, then ill no doubt get kz3 and trade in black ops.Its not quite the stellar experience id hoped for, but then Im struggling to think of a game in this genre that has had that effect for a long time. Crysis 2 seems very underwhelming based on the demo, and bulletstorm was fun but seemed very shallow and lacking long term allure.Black ops, is , well .... it's call of duty. Its fun and manic, but has its faults, and Treyarch seems to have made the most broken call of duty ever.if we looking for a new shooter, homefront is last hope i think, but kz3 is a very solid and fun shooter that is as good as pretty much anything of it's ilk out there. Its got a feel of a cod.bc2 combination , and works great, just seems to lack a bit of anything to really set it apart from anything else out there.

    @Dom4321

    can u not make your own decisions?? an 8 is very respectable surely? what were u expecting from this game? reinvention of the wheel? its another shooter with on line multi player shooting, with more shooting, and some shooting thrown in just in case there wasnt enough shooting. If u looking for a solid ps3 fps, here it is, if u not interested in shooting things, well, this isnt game for u even later down the line. I dont think id give any fps a score of 8/10 anymore, as theyre all very similar, with same ideas rehashed again and again, but some are just better done. They are usually fun online, with campaign being pretty dull with weak storylines that are cliched unintentional parodies of moronic action fliks

  • Dom4321 #190 1 year ago

    @kirankara

    Fair play. It's just that if it got a 10 and was touted as 'teh best game evah', I'd have to give it a go. Wouldn't I? As it stands I won't. I have disagreed with the scores they post here in the past, but by and large I trust EG and its reviews.

  • kirankara #191 1 year ago

    dom,

    i never base my purchases on a single review or site, i always look around and get overall view of game, or best as i can . It doesnt always work or course lol. Red dead was generally peoples game of the year , and reviews were outstanding, and against my better judgement i bought it. Got bored of it so quickly though, it was gta 4 with horses, and i hated gta 4 lol

    I just dont think u can base choices on other peoples opinions at all, when playing agame is so subjective as an experience, u just get some insight into a game, and see if it appeals to you i guess, and hopefully you share similar views.

    even games with outstanding reviews dont always sway me to purchase a game, bayonetta got amazing reviews, but from demo and my understanding of what game was like, i refused to buy it, as i knew it would be money down drain.

    I wish id not listened to hype behind black ops too, i wouldnt have bought it, had it not been for the outstanding reviews and claims of fantastic story and campaign blah blah. it was same old crap, diifferent name

  • Syon #192 1 year ago

    this^

  • drumbaby #193 1 year ago

    Cool, can't wait for this!

  • Sanya #194 1 year ago

    Best fps about fps on consoles
    Edited by Sanya at 06/02/11 @ 00:21

  • eskiyleyeni #195 1 year ago

    8 is nice. good job.
    also herman hulst and dev team told some exclusive infos on this interviews. good job from Turkey.
    http://oyungezer.com.tr/haberler/47-oyun...

  • eskiyleyeni #196 1 year ago

    Killzone 2 > Killzone 3 =?

  • kirankara #197 1 year ago

    [link url=http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=27725
    ]http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=27725
    [/link]

    Kz3 vs crysis 2 betas analysis

  • jefranklin18 #198 1 year ago

    I take a week off on hols and miss the KZ3 review? Dammit. As I've mentioned before, I am not overly concerned about the final review score for a game, what matters to me is the accompanying article as that tends to impart more information than an arbitary score. This is why I stick with EG, even if I don't necessarily agree with their reviews (GTA4 got a 10/10 vs RDRs 8/10 and I would have put it the other way round if anything), I find their writing to be informative & entertaining whereas IGN for example seams to be wanting to appeal to the Nuts crowd.

    Also, seems I missed someone making a dick of himself.

  • flanker22 #199 1 year ago

    sucks that typically gameplay can never meet it's visuals.

  • teakayfortoowon #200 1 year ago

    How did Killzone 2's single player separate itself from other shooters? It was polished and everything but it was pretty standard fare otherwise.

  • king26 #201 1 year ago

    Judging from the beta the gameplay is as good as any of its competitors and better than most of those, not really fair to knock the gameplay compared to the visuals. There's only so far the genre can go.

  • kirankara #202 1 year ago

    Well I just traded black ops in and pre ordering kz3 . I finally gave up on black ops , it's a mess , even on my 360, so figure that going by beta , this jut can't be any less fun than that horrible lag fest.
    My first and last cod game

  • kirankara #203 1 year ago

    Just finished the sp demo , and colour me fuckin impressed . I thought that it was well paced and whilst I get feeling I'm not going to be feeling like I've read a classic novel , the story is no worse than rest of crap our their in this genre , and tbh I don't want great story, just tolerable action flik fare and getting to shoot crap suits me, I've no real idea what's going on anyway as never played 1 and 2.

    I am now more sold than ever on this game having played this and the mp beta. Finally damn this game is good looking, I still think uc2 edges it for overall art direction, but wow. There's clear hints at some technical limitations like bandwidth issues as smoke effects ate bit soft looking compared to rest of textures, and ruins overall impression a bit, but damn it's one of best looking games I've ever seen.

    Can't see why it's got some harsh reviews, much better feel to it than blops for example , the ai isn't best( halo reach ai is immense), but I will try it on hardest level 2moro see if they brighter on that.

    Music is amazing and did I say wow??? This game is beautiful, no video does it justice

  • kirankara #204 1 year ago

    Just finished the sp demo , and colour me fuckin impressed . I thought that it was well paced and whilst I get feeling I'm not going to be feeling like I've read a classic novel , the story is no worse than rest of crap our there in this genre , and tbh I don't want great story, just tolerable action flik fare and getting to shoot crap suits me, I've no real idea what's going on anyway as never played 1 and 2.

    I am now more sold than ever on this game having played this and the mp beta. Finally damn this game is good looking, I still think uc2 edges it for overall art direction, but wow. There's clear hints at some technical limitations like bandwidth issues as smoke effects ate bit soft looking compared to rest of textures, and ruins overall impression a bit, but damn it's one of best looking games I've ever seen.

    Can't see why it's got some harsh reviews, much better feel to it than blops for example , the ai isn't best( halo reach ai is immense), but I will try it on hardest level 2moro see if they brighter on that.

    Music is amazing and did I say wow??? This game is beautiful, no video does it justice
    Edited by kirankara at 10/02/11 @ 00:34

  • lockload #205 1 year ago

    Metacritic is quickly heading towards 8/10 so the review seems right

    Only the playstation specific sponsored high scores proping it up at present

  • ForozM #206 1 year ago

    Really? It's a good review, but the reviewer doesn't seem to remember the original Killzone or Killzone: Liberation on the PSP. The latter had jetpacks and crazy cyborg higs, some of which were like 3-4 meters tall.

    The original Killzone, as far as I remember had lots of different locations, trenches, docks, jungle, swamps, spaceships and so on.

    My point is that Killzone 2 isn't the only Killzone game, and all entries so far has been rather different. And frankly, I'm no fan of sequels that look and play too much like their prequels.

  • Vasot #207 1 year ago

    KILLZONE 3 SINGLE PLAYER IS CRAP !!!
    FANBOYS SHOULD FACE THAT INSTEAD OF WHINING LIKE IDIOTS IN HERE

    IT HAS A BORING STORY AND LASTS AROUND 5 HOURS TO FINISH IT !

    I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED I WAS EXPECTING A BETTER SINGLE PLAYER EXPERIENCE FOR THE 60 EUROS THAT I GAVE FOR THIS GAME

    EUROGAMER HAS DONE RIGHT FOR GIVING IT A 8.0 SINCE THE SINGLE PLAYER PART OF THE GAME IS WEAK AND SHORT

    DO NOT LISTEN TO SOME FANBOYS IN HERE THAT SCREAM LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN FOR THE EUROGAMER REVIEW SCORE
    Edited by Vasot at 14/02/11 @ 16:13

  • apoc_reg #208 1 year ago

    So depressed to read the single player is COD in a KZ skin... so soo depressed.

    Killzone 2 was awesome, gritty, relentless and chunky.

    I don't want to play a 6 hour 'thrill ride' in every game. Hope these reviews are wrong... but i doubt it
    Edited by apoc_reg at 22/02/11 @ 13:14

  • darc #209 1 year ago

    "The game also supports 3D and Move play, both of which work extremely well."

    Not my experience with the demo on either count. The 3D effect itself is fine, but the hit on resolution, particularly in cutscenes, is felt pretty hard. And overall, I found playing the game in 3D to be very fatiguing.

    As for the Move, I still find it unsettlingly imprecise. I was hoping Killzone would be the game to change my mind about Move, but I just don't like anything about having that ridiculous wand in my hand. (And the cover controls - already a little vague with the Dual Shock - well, I couldn't make any sense of them w/ Move.) When I put away the 3D glasses and all of the Move gizmos, Killzone 3 got marginally better, but not so much that I can foresee buying it.

    Meanwhile, more motivated than ever to sell back all this Move crap.
    Edited by darc at 22/02/11 @ 18:09

  • king26 #210 1 year ago

    vasot having your own opinion is great, but don't put down others by claiming they are fanboys. I rate this game at a 9, I am no fanboy, grow the fuck up

  • kirankara #211 1 year ago

    @king,

    ironically, he couldnt have come across a bigger fanboy if hed come in wearing a i heart MS tshirt and bill gates cock up his arse.
    The ranting with caps throughout is a trademark fan boy sign