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  • nickthegun 22 Feb 2013 14:44:32 61,784 posts
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    But dont power hair genetics rule all? There have been little mention of the starks being generation after generation of ginger, for example.

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  • nickthegun 22 Feb 2013 14:45:54 61,784 posts
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    Because they are a 'love the one youre with' kind of family.

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  • nickthegun 22 Feb 2013 14:48:49 61,784 posts
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    I dunno, I assumed that since it made such a song and dance about hair colour, Jon would look like Jimmy Saville if that were the case.

    Also: magic.

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  • Humperfunk 22 Feb 2013 14:58:23 2,616 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Another thing: how is any Targaryn a 'wench' or whatever Ned calls her? They're royalty. I'm liking this theory a lot, in part because it's the only way to solve the billion contenders for the throne problems, plus get House Stark to win.
    I always thought it was Robert who called her a wench, which offended ol' Ned, and that was only because Robert thought he nailed some bird on the road...

    I loved your summary by the way on the other page. Big fan.

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  • President_Weasel 22 Feb 2013 15:41:39 9,781 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    They're really coming into their own.
    Wahey!
  • PazJohnMitch 22 Feb 2013 23:55:20 8,975 posts
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    I am pretty certain Daerneys is Azor Ahai or what his name. Their birth was pretty much exactly what Mellisandre's prophecy described. Obviously Mellisandre has not pieced it together yet. So it is indeed possible that she is trying to manufacture the prophecy.

    I am also convinced that Jon's parents are Lyanna and Rhaeger. The member of the royal guard was in love with the woman Ned apparently had an affair with. He said she died childless.

    Also there was a theory about the giant that I quite liked a few pages back. And it looked like a Caeser story to me.

    I also think Bran is been groomed to do something hugely evil. But that is baseless conjecture on my part.
  • disusedgenius 1 Mar 2013 21:39:09 5,714 posts
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    Not only that, it serves a narrative purpose in that it means you know exactly where you are in the world, the scale of the place and the situation all the characters find themselves in.

    It's basically the sort of thing which the phrase 'fucking inspired' is meant for.
  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Apr 2013 13:55:23 39,664 posts
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    The news today about Iain Banks really brings home how precarious the subject of finishing this series is.

    He really needs to get a move on :(

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Metalfish 3 Apr 2013 14:03:59 8,885 posts
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    George got cancer of the 'editing gland' and had to have the whole thing removed.
  • Salaman 3 Apr 2013 14:35:47 19,801 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    The news today about Iain Banks really brings home how precarious the subject of finishing this series is.

    He really needs to get a move on :(
    Didn't Martin brief a writer of the TV series on where his story archs are going just in case he snuffs it? Or something like that. Vaguely recall something like that.
  • mcmonkeyplc 3 Apr 2013 15:48:30 39,664 posts
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    Well I always thought that would be the only option if he fluffed it, HBO would have to finish it.

    I don't know if he's briefed anyone though.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Tricky 3 Apr 2013 16:02:50 4,487 posts
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    Yes, he's told the two showrunners at HBO how it's all supposed to end, just in case.
  • Salaman 3 Apr 2013 16:24:10 19,801 posts
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    Someone needs te infiltrate the office Xmas party over at HBO and feed them two a few tequilas each.
  • Baihu1983 3 Apr 2013 16:33:59 3,768 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    When is the cunt releasing Winds of winter?
    I did read next year but who knows. Doubt it will have the same issues as Feast and Dragons.

    As for Jon

    Don't think hes dead myself. George tends to make it 100% clear that a characters dead and he pulled the 'fake death' chapter ending with Tyrion earlier on in the book.

    Pretty sure Melisandre knows Stannis is not rally dead. Doesn't someone say in one of the Asha chapters that Stannis spends all hes time looking in the flames talking to her? And Jon mentions he can always see the flames burning in her room window.
  • thedaveeyres 3 Apr 2013 16:59:17 11,708 posts
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    I'm way behind you lot, I've just got to Edmure's wedding... and felt I had to share. H O L Y S H I T F U C K ! O_O

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  • Baihu1983 3 Apr 2013 17:09:09 3,768 posts
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    Such a great moment and they really want to have done it justice on the show.

    But next season is one I'm probably looking forward to more.

    Way past time the Lannister's lost a few people on the show.
  • Bremenacht 12 Apr 2013 15:08:39 20,055 posts
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    I'm getting gently prodded into reading this. It's nothing like Raymond E Fiest or early Stephen Donaldson is it? The problem is, I if I get into it I'll just have to keep reading, even if it's a bit crap.

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  • Mr_Sleep 12 Apr 2013 15:33:20 17,489 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    I'm getting gently prodded into reading this. It's nothing like Raymond E Fiest or early Stephen Donaldson is it? The problem is, I if I get into it I'll just have to keep reading, even if it's a bit crap.
    At least read up to the end of book three. I find that it tends to bumble along a little incoherently after that book. It's a weird series of books, they're incredibly compelling but afterwards I find I can't really remember much and I'm not entirely sure I have enjoyed most of it. As I say though, three is the pinnacle and it's worth reading the two before to get there as you'll be lost without them.

    I must get around to getting series 2 and 3 of the TV series as I hope it'll remind me what I've forgotten.

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  • disusedgenius 12 Apr 2013 15:36:56 5,714 posts
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    The best part about the first 3 books is that, by that last one, you genuinely can't predict what's about to happen next. It's an experience few and far between in fantasy/sci-fi books, but something which might be diminished by having watched the TV series.

    After that it starts to drag under it's own weight, but you're addicted and there's nothing for it by that point but to carry on.
  • PazJohnMitch 13 Apr 2013 05:34:17 8,975 posts
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    I have just read the first 2 Raymond E Feist: Riftwar books and feel comfortable saying that the first 3 Game of Thrones books are far, far better.

    I even enjoyed the shitty 4th GoT book more than Silverthorn although I did really enjoy the first Feist book: Magician.

    The best thing about the GoT books is their unpredictability. The predictableness of the Riftwar books at present is really annoying me. As much as I like Arutha I kind of hope he dies at the start of the third book.
  • Metalfish 13 Apr 2013 09:29:55 8,885 posts
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    GoT are great, but having read them all, I could easily identify entire books worth of material that could be chopped out. George is one of the best "make it up as you go along with the plan" authors there is, but he's quite obviously got to the point where he's giving himself far more strands than he'll ever need (or be able to tidy up).
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