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  • mumtoucher 28 Feb 2013 11:37:43 210 posts
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    We are both reaching the end of our first playthrough together -- apart from tomb of the giants its been a breeze. I'm rocking high strength with full upgraded black iron set + black knight sword and tower shield combo. Loving it.

    Can't wait for the sequel, I'd love to be involved with the EG community on it - EPIC!!!!! (lets hope they dont fuck it up)
  • spindle8888 28 Feb 2013 11:39:03 9 posts
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    yea it was his red mist attack that was really hurting, will need to have a nosey at my equipment i guess. Also does anyone know why i had 20 estus flasks on me? id thought 15 was the limit?.

    Edited by spindle8888 at 11:39:18 28-02-2013
  • Dangerous_Dan 28 Feb 2013 11:39:07 1,600 posts
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    @mumtoucher It's all about invasions. As an invader it's normal to get into a world with 3 guys trying to kill you. And as a Co-Op player it's normal to have an advantage agaisnt one single invader - that's the nature of the game. It's not fair - I like that.
  • evild_edd 28 Feb 2013 11:44:56 2,645 posts
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    Goodfella wrote:
    quadfather wrote:
    Pitch black places with yawning chasms left right and centre, riddled with 10 foot tall hard bastards is another story entirely :)
    Indeed. I can think of several places that make the first half of the game seem like Barbies Horse Adventures.

    Good luck with those, evil edd. ;)
    All sounds like a peace of p*ss to me. Reckon I'll be on NG++ by Sunday! ;0)

    Why look, it's a blog:
    http://www.edwardlaven.blogspot.co.uk

  • JonFE 28 Feb 2013 11:49:43 1,203 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    Pitch black places with yawning chasms left right and centre, riddled with 10 foot tall hard bastards is another story entirely :)
    I HATE that place, HATE IT!
  • JonFE 28 Feb 2013 11:56:28 1,203 posts
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    spindle8888 wrote:
    Also does anyone know why i had 20 estus flasks on me? id thought 15 was the limit?.
    Nope, fully kindled bonfires will give you 20.
  • spindle8888 28 Feb 2013 11:57:32 9 posts
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    Ah thats a bit weird, i mustve missed out on fully kindling almost every bonfire in the game :)
  • RedSparrows 28 Feb 2013 12:53:12 17,029 posts
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    The Gaping Dragon is possibly the most disgusting boss ever.
  • spindle8888 28 Feb 2013 13:03:11 9 posts
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    dunno why but he always reminds me of an elephant, think its the way his cute little nose pops up over the ledge in his intro :p
  • Tricky 28 Feb 2013 16:51:44 4,039 posts
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    RedSparrows wrote:
    The Gaping Dragon is possibly the most disgusting boss ever.
    Sounds more like an affliction than a creature :)

    I finally got this when it was cheap on Amazon last week and it's definitely starting to sink its claws into me now - had the same issue with it at first that I did with Demon's Souls (too disheartening when you lose tonnes of souls) but I've put more time into it and am now able to waltz through most of Undead Burg with nary a care in the world. Looks like I'm not too far behind evil_edd's progress as I just got killed by that bastard dual-wielding demon down in the basement area.

    I've got no idea how I'm supposed to sort out the gargoyle on top of the church that I walked into the other night and that Hydra in the Darkroot Basin looks proper mental (the crystal things around it are a piece of piss though). So, it looks like I've got plenty to challenge me and everything I hear suggests it's only going to get harder. Great game.
  • quadfather 28 Feb 2013 16:53:24 4,733 posts
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    @Tricky - don't forget you can summon helpful npc's in human form for assistance

    psn = quaddy456

  • Mr_Sleep 28 Feb 2013 17:54:45 13,567 posts
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    Tricky wrote:
    I finally got this when it was cheap on Amazon last week and it's definitely starting to sink its claws into me now - had the same issue with it at first that I did with Demon's Souls (too disheartening when you lose tonnes of souls) but I've put more time into it and am now able to waltz through most of Undead Burg with nary a care in the world. Looks like I'm not too far behind evil_edd's progress as I just got killed by that bastard dual-wielding demon down in the basement area.
    He is a bastard. Let us know if you struggle to take him out as there's some good tactics for that fight that will help.
    I've got no idea how I'm supposed to sort out the gargoyle on top of the church that I walked into the other night and that Hydra in the Darkroot Basin looks proper mental (the crystal things around it are a piece of piss though). So, it looks like I've got plenty to challenge me and everything I hear suggests it's only going to get harder. Great game.
    Summoning is something to bear in mind. As for Hydra, his primary damaging attack is his ranged one, get in a bit closer and you may have more chance, standard tactics apply i.e. keep your shield up :-) He's only a mini-boss as there's no fog door so it's not essential to take him out for the main game.
  • lukejones 28 Feb 2013 19:43:23 227 posts
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    @Tricky Make sure you’re patient with every enemy you attack until you’re proficient with blocking and dodging. Here are a few things to keep in mind:

    – Read up on fast / fat rolling and remember that heavy armour may be powerful but isn’t necessarily the best thing if you want to dodge quickly.
    – Make sure you read up on upgrading / crafting weapons. I had a Chaos Balder Side Sword that made mince meat out of most of my enemies.
    – Depending on your build, read up on the best ways to enhance your character. Some things you can level up are pointless (Resistance is pointless, for example)
    – Summon when you can and be summoned when you can. It’s a great way to get Souls & Humanity.
    – Always use Humanity when you can. With 10 Humanity active you can summon players, have great curse resistance and the enemy drop rate increases (you can farm humanity in parts of the game, so research that).

    Edited by lukejones at 19:44:20 28-02-2013

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  • Tricky 28 Feb 2013 21:47:41 4,039 posts
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    Cheers guys. So does humanity work a bit like levels? I.e. if I use 4 humanity and get killed, do I stay human but at level 3 of humanity or do I immediately get hollowed? Trying not to read up on too much as I want to find as many things out as I can for myself - the only thing I've really cheated in so far is to find out about the Drake Sword, which makes mince meat out of all standard enemies.
  • Goodfella 28 Feb 2013 21:57:54 1,991 posts
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    If you get killed you will no longer be human.
  • Tricky 28 Feb 2013 22:07:13 4,039 posts
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    So does that rob me of all humanity that I've spent? If so, then that's the kind of shit that worries me :-)
  • Azazel 28 Feb 2013 22:09:47 715 posts
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    You revert to hollow as soon as you die. You will retain all your humanity if you can reach your bloodstain and retrieve it (you only get one chance, so die on the return trip and it's gone for good).

    Humanity affects item discovery, resistance to curses and the strength of chaos weapons which are available later in the game.

    Edited by Azazel at 22:11:06 28-02-2013
  • Azazel 28 Feb 2013 22:22:25 715 posts
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    So anyway, I unlocked The Dark Soul at the weekend. I was all like, "Right, I'm done now. Time to get on with my life."

    Last night I rolled a new character.
  • Goodfella 28 Feb 2013 22:27:53 1,991 posts
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    Whatever humanity and souls you had will be regained if you make it back to your corpse, as long as you don't die again on the way there, they will be gone forever if that happens. :D
  • Tricky 28 Feb 2013 22:35:50 4,039 posts
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    Ah humanity is tied up with the souls as well - gotcha. Well that's not too bad, except when I got killed on the roof of the church at the furthest point from where you enter, losing 12000 souls in the process (yes, I know it's not a lot to you NG++++++++ guys, but it's a shit load this early in the game ;))
  • ZuluHero 28 Feb 2013 23:09:21 2,540 posts
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    There are sneaky ways to bank souls, like buying dung. Frampt will give you the same back that you paid for them. Though you can only carry 99 of them, it's still a big chunk.
  • Deleted user 28 February 2013 23:20:28
    Still waiting for an easy mode patch so I can play it.
  • RedSparrows 28 Feb 2013 23:30:43 17,029 posts
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    It's really not that hard (says he who hasn't even finished one playthrough). More... demanding. You mainly fail because you cocked up, rather than the game being like a bullet-storm affair or simply broken.

    You can play it in smallish chunks, also, weirdly.
  • TOOTR 1 Mar 2013 03:26:37 8,840 posts
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    Azazel wrote:
    So anyway, I unlocked The Dark Soul at the weekend. I was all like, "Right, I'm done now. Time to get on with my life."

    Last night I rolled a new character.
    Lol - I did the same :D

    "Assimilate this!" cried Worf, firing a space bazooka at the Borg.

  • mumtoucher 1 Mar 2013 08:41:37 210 posts
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    Dan, not really delved into the world of invading yet, that is something I'm looking forward to immensely.
  • quadfather 1 Mar 2013 08:52:38 4,733 posts
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    TOOTR wrote:
    Azazel wrote:
    So anyway, I unlocked The Dark Soul at the weekend. I was all like, "Right, I'm done now. Time to get on with my life."

    Last night I rolled a new character.
    Lol - I did the same :D
    Ah, so I'm not alone then. That's nice

    psn = quaddy456

  • lukejones 1 Mar 2013 09:53:55 227 posts
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  • lukejones 1 Mar 2013 09:54:14 227 posts
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    @Tricky I’ve sunk around 80 hours into the game and halfway through NG+ in just over 4 hours, so it gets easier as you play it. Just be patient and get an understanding of each moveset the enemies have. For example you know if you get close to the heavy knights they’ll do a hard attack you can dodge and then backstab them (run around the back of them and press the light attack button).

    I actually urge you to read up on the game online. It totally opens up the game and helps you understand concepts that are a little obscure. Here are a couple of decent pages to read:

    http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Online
    http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Humanity
    http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bonfire

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  • Tricky 1 Mar 2013 14:07:20 4,039 posts
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    Right, that's the Gargoyles dealt with (thanks to help from Solaire's phantom) and the first bell rung. Going to go and have another go at the Depths tonight - went down there and got battered by the two big feckers (are they smiths?) and then got dropped on by some horrible slime blob bastard. With no Estus left and little health I scarpered.

    I guess that's where I need to go next though, right? Blighttown is accessed through it from what I can understand and that's where the next bell is?
  • quadfather 1 Mar 2013 14:09:07 4,733 posts
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    @Tricky - that's the standard route through, yes.

    Keep an eye out for holes in the floor (mainly in thin corridors) in the depths. If you fall down, you'll be in a world of shit if you're not careful

    Edit - use something firey against the slimes

    Edited by quadfather at 14:09:26 01-03-2013

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