Wii to outsell rivals in 2008 News

Fat chance.

WRONG!

I want that job. I want to be an analyst. Oh, how you would all hate me

Who pays these research firms for this wonderfully insightful information?
It's completely meaningless, nobody knows whats going to happen. All their doing is looking at whats happening now - and presuming nothing will change.
I bet this same research group said PS3 will dominate a year or two back - so what the hell do they know.

Well it is cheaper than its competitors and I know of a lot of people who wouldn't have been interested in buying a console prior to the Wii.

Mine however hasn't been turned on since finishing Zelda. Its back to the 360 love for me at the moment.

If the big selling pitch is still something like 'look, you can pick your character's nose with the Wiimote zomg Ninty 4 teh win!!!11' come 2008 then kiss those launch figures goodbye.

Isn't a Core 360 30 quid cheaper these days?

Wii had better have an impressive E3 (or whatever summer-season game show equivalent) this year, or it's going to go the way of Eyetoy.

Of course it will, it's the cheapest!

I want that job too... taking obvious conclusions and actually getting paid for it!

"Who pays these research firms for this wonderfully insightful information?
It's completely meaningless, nobody knows whats going to happen. All their doing is looking at whats happening now - and presuming nothing will change.
I bet this same research group said PS3 will dominate a year or two back - so what the hell do they know."

Yup. Totally agree.

Even if they're right... it's not exactly hard to predict the success of the Wii AFTER it's had a very successful launch.

Not unless they get some spanking games for it.

After Zelda I havnt seen the point to getting anything new.

The wii's aimed at a different markets, so I think this report could well turn out to be an accurate prediction.

Still, we could do with some more killer aps for the hard core gamers.

I predict that FIFA Soccer will sell well in 2008 and Need for Speed generica will also perform well. But they may not, but they should.

Lol @ first two posters. Very well argued, chaps. Have you considered joining a debating team?

Aye, looking at the upcoming lineup of games, there really isn't anything that tickles my fancy before Xmas. Hopefully Super Paper Mario will get an EU release not long after it comes out in the US.

Adam T ¨Not unless they get some spanking games for it.

After Zelda I havnt seen the point to getting anything new.¨

I expect the 'next big game' for the non-gaming public will be Mercury, Trauma center and Cooking Mama. Super Smash Brothers, and Mario Galaxy for the more traditional gamer.

And I'm certain 'Wii sports II' is underway!

WHY????!!!

Can't see it myself, people soon get bord of waiting for releases

Ninty have always been guilty of keeping their user base starved of games. At least VC eases the pain a little this time round.

In other news, apples will sell more than oranges.

The Wii is different enough to capture more non-gamers and hence it will sell more, but it won't make it the 'dominant hardware' for gamers.

The Wii could sell 6 billion, but Halo 3 would never be ported to it. Out of the 6 billion Wii owners, the amount of people want to play Halo would not change. It's dangerous to assume selling more console-like pieces of kit will increase the amount of people who want to play 'modern' games.

Say Grannie buys a Wii cos she loves Wii Bowling and wants to surf the weather and news channel. Will she make the leap to then buy Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto style games?

In other news, apples will sell more than oranges.

The Wii is different enough to capture more non-gamers and hence it will sell more, but it won't make it the 'dominant hardware' for gamers.

The Wii could sell 6 billion, but Halo 3 would never be ported to it. Out of the 6 billion Wii owners, the amount of people want to play Halo would not change. It's dangerous to assume selling more console-like pieces of kit will increase the amount of people who want to play 'modern' games.

Say Grannie buys a Wii cos she loves Wii Bowling and wants to surf the weather and news channel. Will she make the leap to then buy Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto style games?

Aren't you defining 'gamer' in a horribly narrow way? Surely it's just anyone who plays and buys, well, games?

In any case, analysts tend to talk utter bollocks.

i love eurogamer for posting these news titbits. i can even picture you all in the office gathered around the desk hovering over the post button whispering things like "this'll send em mental" and "bet that blerk posts 'meh' again"

bet the magic 8ball got this one right as well :P, you lot are getting predictable change the tune!

Well Microsoft and nintendo will be over the moon if this comes true

My only concern for the wii is viability of games, these casual gamers are less likely to buy as many games

I'd love to be an analyst, easiest job in the world. To get paid to talk about a topic I clearly know nothing about, brilliant!!

To be truthful, although part of my hate for them revolves around them having shitty opinions on topics that I feel genuinely interested in and getting paid for it, some of it admittedly is also jealously.

How exactly do you get a job as an analyst anyway. Just out of curiousity's sake is all............

I think Nintendo has a good chance.

Microsoft and Sony will be competing for the same market come Christmas. With the GTA 4, Halo 3, Killzone 2 and MGS4 all going after the same people.

Nintendo will be coming from a completely different angle with Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers, Wii Health and Wii Music.

I think the mass market will go for Wii.

You can't say analyst without anal.

There's a reason ,think abouuuut it

Who cares. So long as there area great games to be had on whichever system I'm happy.

Fair enough. I can see that happening. I'm not however convinced that the software sales figures for Wii will be as big as 360 and PS3.

While its probably right to assume people who buy Wii will generally buy less games for their console than 360 or even ps3 owners. But if they sell far more consoles than the other two, which is looking very likely, then overall the Wii will sell more games anyway.
I think a good comparison would be Gameboy. People who bought gameboys didnt buy many games for it, but due to hundreds of millions of the little consoles being sold, that really didnt matter.

Hard to believe anything from someone called "Billy Pidgeon"!

Come along now Xealots, tell everyone why the Wii cannot possibly outsell your beloved 360..

Having said that, Nintendo have done surprisingly well off that back of Wii Sports in gaining publicity and new gamers, but they'll need to repeat that trick somehow if they want to keep people on their console. It'll be a long wait for Sports2.

I can't see how given the current games outlook for the Wii. Tons of mediocre 3rd party tut and ports, with the usual trickle of decent to semi-decent 1st party wares. Hardly any decent 3rd party exclusives, unlike both the 360 and PS3.

I have a Wii and think it's great and enjoy it very much, but I don't think I could get away with it being my main platform.

This is totally down to Nintendo: if it fails to deliver on the promise of unusual, fun games, then I fear the novelty aspect will fizzle and sales nosedive. Already there are rumblings - I'm still playing on Wii Sports and ExciteTruck is fun, but I wonder where the Wii is heading next. There's really nothing except Mario Galaxy worth looking forward to. (Where's Wii WaveRace or Wii Pilotwings? These games are perfect for the controller.)

Here's how these people work. For real!
http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=10123

and this is based on.... knowing nothing about what any of the big three have planned - they all have secrets up their sleeves and no anal-yst can predict anything without knowing what those are.

OK I have a wii and zelda and wii sports ye zelda was great but honestly id bring it back if i cud it wasnt worth the money overall.

"In other news, apples will sell more than oranges. "

Apples and oranges? What about Eyetoy, Singstar and Buzz? Weren't they aimed at exactly the same audience as the Wii?

And you're missing the much bigger point: publishers make games for the platform that has the largest userbase, because it brings in the most money. They don't give two hoots whether it's marketed as a hardcore gamer platform, a casual gamer platform or any other kind of platform, all they care about is whether they end up with the maximum amount of money going into their bank accounts.

If the Wii outsells the PS3, it will get more third party publisher support than the PS3, and publishers who would otherwise have made PS3 games will switch their resources to the Wii because it would be cheaper and more profitable.

The success of the PS1 and PS2 was built almost entirely on having the largest selection of third party games, the PlayStations were the nearest gaming came to having a Windows-style standard format. If that massive third party support disappears, Sony will have a very tough time selling the PS3 to anything like as many gamers as the PS2 or PS1.

I own a Wii and I cannot see it outselling the PS3 or Xbox 360 in the long-term but it seems to be doing well now thanks to it's newness and the novelty of its controller. However, without decent games public interest in the system will wane. I've just got Sonic and the Secret Rings today but prior to that the last game I bought was WarioWare Smooth Moves about a month ago. It's a good machine but I can't help feeling that this is going to go the way as the N64 and GameCube in as little as a year's time, that is it'll be third behind Microsoft and Sony's machines.

Nintendo make great games, of that there is no doubt, but they're few and far between and it doesn't help that their consoles traditionally attract weak third-party support. I mean so far we've had a whole load of tripe from Ubisoft (bar Rayman Raving Rabbids which was decent) and not a whole lot from EA.

The fact that Nintendo seem to putting more effort into gimmicky Wii Channels and the Virtual Console kind of depresses me to be honest. I want *Wii games* from you, Nintendo, goddamnit!!! :x

If the big selling pitch is still something like 'look, you can pick your character's nose with the Wiimote zomg Ninty 4 teh win!!!11' come 2008 then kiss those launch figures goodbye.

I thought the point was that people who bought the wii didnt speak like that, the whole none gamer thing...

A drought is to be expected, but I honestly don't care that much. I seldom buy more than a few games a year anyway. I can't be bothered to play the mediocre games. And games like Smash Bros. have lifespans of at least a couple of years. Still playing the last one.

I'm of the opinion that the current 1st party drought is aimed at letting 3rd parties in. Traditionally, Nintendo really hasn't cared much about 3rd parties and launched their AAA franchises as and whenever they wanted (usually late, mind you). Judging by the reaction to MP, SMG etc at E3, I would say that these games have been very nearly finished for a while, and the fact that they haven't launched yet is just so 3rd parties do not have to contend with what will very likely be blockbusters. Maybe.

@playgen

"But if they sell far more consoles than the other two, which is looking very likely, then overall the Wii will sell more games anyway"

But the article suggests it will be mroe of a three way split, rather than "far more than the other two". It doen's really matter TBH who sells more games, just a thought is all.

"OK I have a wii and zelda and wii sports ye zelda was great but honestly id bring it back if i cud it wasnt worth the money overall."

I've five mates who bought a Wii. Three have traded it back in / sold on ebay through boredom and frustration with future launches.

Me, I held back because I'm a graphics whore!

I hope it continues to do well though - some more western games designed specificaly for it would be great. Metroid's a start, but where then?

Apples and oranges? What about Eyetoy, Singstar and Buzz? Weren't they aimed at exactly the same audience as the Wii?

Except those are arguably of the realms of 'buy them because you have a PS2 and your girlfriend might like the game', rather than positioning the console for that audience. It's like, not many people will buy a PS3 for Singstar (too expensive for one thing) - but in my experience a lot of people will buy a Wii for something like Wii Sports.

ALL console launches have few 'must have' games. This really is not a surprise. The same dicussion will be had when the PS3 comes out...

That report is BS, every know's Nintendo are a one trick pony. They've released the Wii with no real class 1st Party games, ( Wii Sports the gimmick & Legend of Zelda don't count ), and now there's the usual Nintendo drought.

Not only that, what hold's out for the Wii after Metroid and Mario Galaxy have been released? They need at least one other out of the blue game like Pikmin.

The DS is almost as good as dead too, I can only see 1 quality game, Zelda being released this year for that system.

When all the Wii hype is going away and people realize that the Wii is not able to deliver HD and really is a old-gen console with a new look, sales will slow down. I really can't see the Wii selling like now for year to come... no matter how innovative Nintendo's software may be.

"The DS is almost as good as dead too,"

Aw come on dude! I was almost with you until that little snippet of wisdom. Look at the continued sales figures!

He is just trolling, there is nothing of value in his comments

'If the big selling pitch is still something like 'look, you can pick your character's nose with the Wiimote zomg Ninty 4 teh win!!!11' come 2008 then kiss those launch figures goodbye.

I thought the point was that people who bought the wii didnt speak like that, the whole none gamer thing...'

It would be interesting to get some demographic breakdown here. Nintendo gamers are traditionally the real old guard, the cream of the hardcore. How far have things swung the other way?

WIIIIII's are for gays!!! Yer fuckin GAY LORDS!