Wii to outsell rivals in 2008

By Robert Purchese Published 2 March, 2007

Research gang predicts future.

Nintendo's Wii console will outship and outsell the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 throughout 2007 and 2008, according to market research firm IDC.

But although the Xbox 360 has enjoyed a full year's head start over rivals, and the Wii is likely to perform well over the next two years, the company believes that this home console cycle will see no clear-cut dominant hardware.

"IDC believes hardware shipments of Nintendo's Wii will capture a little more than a third of the worldwide market by 2008, rising slightly above Sony's PS3 and Microsoft's Xbox 360," reported the firm.

Head over to GamesIndustry.biz for the full story.

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  • Negotiator #1 5 years ago

    Fat chance.

  • Hugundo #2 5 years ago

    WRONG!

  • Tonka #3 5 years ago

    I want that job. I want to be an analyst. Oh, how you would all hate me

  • playgen #4 5 years ago

    Who pays these research firms for this wonderfully insightful information?
    It's completely meaningless, nobody knows whats going to happen. All their doing is looking at whats happening now - and presuming nothing will change.
    I bet this same research group said PS3 will dominate a year or two back - so what the hell do they know.

  • QJ #5 5 years ago

    Well it is cheaper than its competitors and I know of a lot of people who wouldn't have been interested in buying a console prior to the Wii.

    Mine however hasn't been turned on since finishing Zelda. Its back to the 360 love for me at the moment.

  • dirigiblebill #6 5 years ago

    If the big selling pitch is still something like 'look, you can pick your character's nose with the Wiimote zomg Ninty 4 teh win!!!11' come 2008 then kiss those launch figures goodbye.
    Edited by 1 at 02/03/07 @ 11:00

  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #7 5 years ago

    Isn't a Core 360 30 quid cheaper these days?

    Wii had better have an impressive E3 (or whatever summer-season game show equivalent) this year, or it's going to go the way of Eyetoy.

  • SeesThroughAll #8 5 years ago

    Of course it will, it's the cheapest!

    I want that job too... taking obvious conclusions and actually getting paid for it!

  • chupachups #9 5 years ago

    "Who pays these research firms for this wonderfully insightful information?
    It's completely meaningless, nobody knows whats going to happen. All their doing is looking at whats happening now - and presuming nothing will change.
    I bet this same research group said PS3 will dominate a year or two back - so what the hell do they know."

    Yup. Totally agree.

    Even if they're right... it's not exactly hard to predict the success of the Wii AFTER it's had a very successful launch.

  • rudedudejude #10 5 years ago

    Not unless they get some spanking games for it.

    After Zelda I havnt seen the point to getting anything new.

  • bushwod #11 5 years ago

    The wii's aimed at a different markets, so I think this report could well turn out to be an accurate prediction.

    Still, we could do with some more killer aps for the hard core gamers.

  • jonsaan #12 5 years ago

    I predict that FIFA Soccer will sell well in 2008 and Need for Speed generica will also perform well. But they may not, but they should.

  • Popzeus #13 5 years ago

    Lol @ first two posters. Very well argued, chaps. Have you considered joining a debating team?

  • QJ #14 5 years ago

    Aye, looking at the upcoming lineup of games, there really isn't anything that tickles my fancy before Xmas. Hopefully Super Paper Mario will get an EU release not long after it comes out in the US.

  • Carlo #15 5 years ago

    Adam T ¨Not unless they get some spanking games for it.

    After Zelda I havnt seen the point to getting anything new.¨

    I expect the 'next big game' for the non-gaming public will be Mercury, Trauma center and Cooking Mama. Super Smash Brothers, and Mario Galaxy for the more traditional gamer.

    And I'm certain 'Wii sports II' is underway!

  • gizmo #16 5 years ago

    WHY????!!!

  • SBfistfun #17 5 years ago

    Can't see it myself, people soon get bord of waiting for releases

  • jonsaan #18 5 years ago

    Ninty have always been guilty of keeping their user base starved of games. At least VC eases the pain a little this time round.

  • in5ane #19 5 years ago

    In other news, apples will sell more than oranges.

    The Wii is different enough to capture more non-gamers and hence it will sell more, but it won't make it the 'dominant hardware' for gamers.

    The Wii could sell 6 billion, but Halo 3 would never be ported to it. Out of the 6 billion Wii owners, the amount of people want to play Halo would not change. It's dangerous to assume selling more console-like pieces of kit will increase the amount of people who want to play 'modern' games.

    Say Grannie buys a Wii cos she loves Wii Bowling and wants to surf the weather and news channel. Will she make the leap to then buy Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto style games?

  • aldo_14 #20 5 years ago

    In other news, apples will sell more than oranges.

    The Wii is different enough to capture more non-gamers and hence it will sell more, but it won't make it the 'dominant hardware' for gamers.

    The Wii could sell 6 billion, but Halo 3 would never be ported to it. Out of the 6 billion Wii owners, the amount of people want to play Halo would not change. It's dangerous to assume selling more console-like pieces of kit will increase the amount of people who want to play 'modern' games.

    Say Grannie buys a Wii cos she loves Wii Bowling and wants to surf the weather and news channel. Will she make the leap to then buy Gran Turismo and Grand Theft Auto style games?

    Aren't you defining 'gamer' in a horribly narrow way? Surely it's just anyone who plays and buys, well, games?

    In any case, analysts tend to talk utter bollocks.
    Edited by 1 at 02/03/07 @ 11:31

  • Psi #21 5 years ago

    i love eurogamer for posting these news titbits. i can even picture you all in the office gathered around the desk hovering over the post button whispering things like "this'll send em mental" and "bet that blerk posts 'meh' again"

    bet the magic 8ball got this one right as well :p, you lot are getting predictable change the tune!

  • alpha-0ne #22 5 years ago

    Well Microsoft and nintendo will be over the moon if this comes true

    My only concern for the wii is viability of games, these casual gamers are less likely to buy as many games
    Edited by 2 at 02/03/07 @ 11:39

  • SomaticSense #23 5 years ago

    I'd love to be an analyst, easiest job in the world. To get paid to talk about a topic I clearly know nothing about, brilliant!!

    To be truthful, although part of my hate for them revolves around them having shitty opinions on topics that I feel genuinely interested in and getting paid for it, some of it admittedly is also jealously.

    How exactly do you get a job as an analyst anyway. Just out of curiousity's sake is all............

  • CallousB #24 5 years ago

    I think Nintendo has a good chance.

    Microsoft and Sony will be competing for the same market come Christmas. With the GTA 4, Halo 3, Killzone 2 and MGS4 all going after the same people.

    Nintendo will be coming from a completely different angle with Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers, Wii Health and Wii Music.

    I think the mass market will go for Wii.

  • SBfistfun #25 5 years ago

    You can't say analyst without anal.

    There's a reason ,think abouuuut it

  • teabagger #26 5 years ago

    Who cares. So long as there area great games to be had on whichever system I'm happy.

  • Overlush #27 5 years ago

    Fair enough. I can see that happening. I'm not however convinced that the software sales figures for Wii will be as big as 360 and PS3.

  • playgen #28 5 years ago

    While its probably right to assume people who buy Wii will generally buy less games for their console than 360 or even ps3 owners. But if they sell far more consoles than the other two, which is looking very likely, then overall the Wii will sell more games anyway.
    I think a good comparison would be Gameboy. People who bought gameboys didnt buy many games for it, but due to hundreds of millions of the little consoles being sold, that really didnt matter.

  • bonker #29 5 years ago

    Hard to believe anything from someone called "Billy Pidgeon"!

  • Carrybagma #30 5 years ago

    Come along now Xealots, tell everyone why the Wii cannot possibly outsell your beloved 360..

    Having said that, Nintendo have done surprisingly well off that back of Wii Sports in gaining publicity and new gamers, but they'll need to repeat that trick somehow if they want to keep people on their console. It'll be a long wait for Sports2.

  • peterfll #31 5 years ago

    I can't see how given the current games outlook for the Wii. Tons of mediocre 3rd party tut and ports, with the usual trickle of decent to semi-decent 1st party wares. Hardly any decent 3rd party exclusives, unlike both the 360 and PS3.

    I have a Wii and think it's great and enjoy it very much, but I don't think I could get away with it being my main platform.

  • Weezer #32 5 years ago

    This is totally down to Nintendo: if it fails to deliver on the promise of unusual, fun games, then I fear the novelty aspect will fizzle and sales nosedive. Already there are rumblings - I'm still playing on Wii Sports and ExciteTruck is fun, but I wonder where the Wii is heading next. There's really nothing except Mario Galaxy worth looking forward to. (Where's Wii WaveRace or Wii Pilotwings? These games are perfect for the controller.)

  • Eraser #33 5 years ago

    Here's how these people work. For real!
    http://www .n-europe.com/news.php?nid=10123

  • woodnotes #34 5 years ago

    and this is based on.... knowing nothing about what any of the big three have planned - they all have secrets up their sleeves and no anal-yst can predict anything without knowing what those are.

  • DeCoR #35 5 years ago

    OK I have a wii and zelda and wii sports ye zelda was great but honestly id bring it back if i cud it wasnt worth the money overall.

  • chupachups #36 5 years ago

    "In other news, apples will sell more than oranges. "

    Apples and oranges? What about Eyetoy, Singstar and Buzz? Weren't they aimed at exactly the same audience as the Wii?

    And you're missing the much bigger point: publishers make games for the platform that has the largest userbase, because it brings in the most money. They don't give two hoots whether it's marketed as a hardcore gamer platform, a casual gamer platform or any other kind of platform, all they care about is whether they end up with the maximum amount of money going into their bank accounts.

    If the Wii outsells the PS3, it will get more third party publisher support than the PS3, and publishers who would otherwise have made PS3 games will switch their resources to the Wii because it would be cheaper and more profitable.

    The success of the PS1 and PS2 was built almost entirely on having the largest selection of third party games, the PlayStations were the nearest gaming came to having a Windows-style standard format. If that massive third party support disappears, Sony will have a very tough time selling the PS3 to anything like as many gamers as the PS2 or PS1.

  • Darren #37 5 years ago

    I own a Wii and I cannot see it outselling the PS3 or Xbox 360 in the long-term but it seems to be doing well now thanks to it's newness and the novelty of its controller. However, without decent games public interest in the system will wane. I've just got Sonic and the Secret Rings today but prior to that the last game I bought was WarioWare Smooth Moves about a month ago. It's a good machine but I can't help feeling that this is going to go the way as the N64 and GameCube in as little as a year's time, that is it'll be third behind Microsoft and Sony's machines.

    Nintendo make great games, of that there is no doubt, but they're few and far between and it doesn't help that their consoles traditionally attract weak third-party support. I mean so far we've had a whole load of tripe from Ubisoft (bar Rayman Raving Rabbids which was decent) and not a whole lot from EA.

    The fact that Nintendo seem to putting more effort into gimmicky Wii Channels and the Virtual Console kind of depresses me to be honest. I want *Wii games* from you, Nintendo, goddamnit!!! :x

  • mowgli #38 5 years ago

    If the big selling pitch is still something like 'look, you can pick your character's nose with the Wiimote zomg Ninty 4 teh win!!!11' come 2008 then kiss those launch figures goodbye.

    I thought the point was that people who bought the wii didnt speak like that, the whole none gamer thing...

  • Roamer #39 5 years ago

    A drought is to be expected, but I honestly don't care that much. I seldom buy more than a few games a year anyway. I can't be bothered to play the mediocre games. And games like Smash Bros. have lifespans of at least a couple of years. Still playing the last one.

  • jimmyboo #40 5 years ago

    I'm of the opinion that the current 1st party drought is aimed at letting 3rd parties in. Traditionally, Nintendo really hasn't cared much about 3rd parties and launched their AAA franchises as and whenever they wanted (usually late, mind you). Judging by the reaction to MP, SMG etc at E3, I would say that these games have been very nearly finished for a while, and the fact that they haven't launched yet is just so 3rd parties do not have to contend with what will very likely be blockbusters. Maybe.

  • Overlush #41 5 years ago

    @playgen

    "But if they sell far more consoles than the other two, which is looking very likely, then overall the Wii will sell more games anyway"

    But the article suggests it will be mroe of a three way split, rather than "far more than the other two". It doen's really matter TBH who sells more games, just a thought is all.

  • Overlush #42 5 years ago

    "OK I have a wii and zelda and wii sports ye zelda was great but honestly id bring it back if i cud it wasnt worth the money overall."

    I've five mates who bought a Wii. Three have traded it back in / sold on ebay through boredom and frustration with future launches.

    Me, I held back because I'm a graphics whore!

    I hope it continues to do well though - some more western games designed specificaly for it would be great. Metroid's a start, but where then?

  • aldo_14 #43 5 years ago



    Apples and oranges? What about Eyetoy, Singstar and Buzz? Weren't they aimed at exactly the same audience as the Wii?

    Except those are arguably of the realms of 'buy them because you have a PS2 and your girlfriend might like the game', rather than positioning the console for that audience. It's like, not many people will buy a PS3 for Singstar (too expensive for one thing) - but in my experience a lot of people will buy a Wii for something like Wii Sports.

  • bigbadbeasty #44 5 years ago

    ALL console launches have few 'must have' games. This really is not a surprise. The same dicussion will be had when the PS3 comes out...

  • MARKIV #45 5 years ago

    That report is BS, every know's Nintendo are a one trick pony. They've released the Wii with no real class 1st Party games, ( Wii Sports the gimmick & Legend of Zelda don't count ), and now there's the usual Nintendo drought.

    Not only that, what hold's out for the Wii after Metroid and Mario Galaxy have been released? They need at least one other out of the blue game like Pikmin.

    The DS is almost as good as dead too, I can only see 1 quality game, Zelda being released this year for that system.

  • Beano #46 5 years ago

    When all the Wii hype is going away and people realize that the Wii is not able to deliver HD and really is a old-gen console with a new look, sales will slow down. I really can't see the Wii selling like now for year to come... no matter how innovative Nintendo's software may be.

  • Overlush #47 5 years ago

    "The DS is almost as good as dead too,"

    Aw come on dude! I was almost with you until that little snippet of wisdom. Look at the continued sales figures!

  • bigbadbeasty #48 5 years ago

    He is just trolling, there is nothing of value in his comments

  • dirigiblebill #49 5 years ago

    'If the big selling pitch is still something like 'look, you can pick your character's nose with the Wiimote zomg Ninty 4 teh win!!!11' come 2008 then kiss those launch figures goodbye.

    I thought the point was that people who bought the wii didnt speak like that, the whole none gamer thing...'

    It would be interesting to get some demographic breakdown here. Nintendo gamers are traditionally the real old guard, the cream of the hardcore. How far have things swung the other way?

  • thinktank #50 5 years ago

    WIIIIII's are for gays!!! Yer fuckin GAY LORDS!

  • #51 5 years ago

    I can see one of 2 scenarios playing out with regard to the Wii

    1 - Like the GBA, Nintendo have created a cheap console to manufacture and develop for and, also like the GBA, the Wii is able to attract all manner of licensed tat to build a big software library (having dumped their previous quality vs quantity ethos). As we see now, the console does spectacularly well and continues to do so for years to come aided by Nintendo's own triple-A titles.

    2 - Like the GC, Wii launches spectacularly aided by a small(ish) price, a novel controller and a worldwide launch. This time there are big sales and shortages almost everywhere because Nintendo is launching near-simultaneously across the EU, US and Asia-Pacific - which inevitably leads to Wii selling even faster in the opening stages than GC. The novelty wears off followed by a software drought and the competition starts closing in (ie PS3 / Xbox 360 drop in price, Motorstorm launches and all manner of goodies like GT HD are available free). Sales of Wii take a nosedive and Nintendo's triple-A titles are not enough (or are not released quickly enough) to stem the tide. Wii follows the same fate as GC and sells around the same at the end of it's lifecycle.

    The only problem is, I can't decide which of the two scenarios Wii will fall into. I do remain sceptical of Nintendo's ability to deliver their triple-A software on time though so I guess I fall into scenario 2.

  • mowgli #52 5 years ago

    Nintendo fanboys will buy it whatever, but i thought the whole point of the wii was for the none gamer. The person(s) with a job and a social life, who pickded it up so they could play tennis in their living room. I thought the people that spk like that are usualy the people who are willing to spend 400+ in order to play the same old games.

  • #53 5 years ago

    But, like PSP, doesn't the non-gamer just lose interest after a while and then move onto other things?

  • dirigiblebill #54 5 years ago

    @ Mowgli

    Yeah, but what's the current ratio of fanboy to 'non-gamer' in Wii ownership? Are there really millions of soccer moms, grandmas and girlfriends out there waving their Wiimotes around? Or is this non-gaming thing all just press releases and anecdotal evidence?

  • mowgli #55 5 years ago

    O hay youv got me all wrong my initial post was absaloutly nothing to do with the article i was just confused by your comment. I have no idea what will happen but i dont think the wii will end up on top. i would like it too, but the fact that i havent touched it since finishing zelda im not too confident- saying that the DS was dry and had me on the verge of selling for the first couple months but now it OWNS ALL! All i can say is that if the ps3 ended up on top i would lose faith in mankind. The whole nxt gen gamig thing all seems a bit of a joke to me. All it is is better graphics. like the dreamcast/ps2/xbox/gc before it, and the ps/n64 etc before that. i dont remenber any of them being called next gen. The only console i se doing anything new is the wii- but there aint shit available for it cause every one is trying to increase frame rates and jizzing over bloom lighting in the next fifa etc.
    I also have a 360 and i love it but its not doing anything special?! so i aint gonna call it next gen.

    /im not very good at sticking to the point

  • dirigiblebill #56 5 years ago

    @ Mowgli

    Fair dos, I was just taking the piss a bit with my first post.

    'The whole nxt gen gamig thing all seems a bit of a joke to me.'

    Me, Kato and Les had a big punch-up over this the other day (back-end of the ps3 BC thread which got over 500 posts)...

  • Carrybagma #57 5 years ago

    "Nintendo is the only one of the three manufacturers working to grow its accessible market for its hardware and software by broadening its audience beyond the traditional market," observed the company.

    Actually, this is wrong. Plenty of non-gamers are buying the PS3 for the BD player alone. I'm sure Sony know this too.

  • mowgli #58 5 years ago

    'Actually, this is wrong. Plenty of non-gamers are buying the PS3 for the BD player alone. I'm sure Sony know this too.'

    Em are they? because i would personally crap on someone that is willing to spend 400 quid on a dvd player with a bit more shine. This whole hddvd vs blu ray is a joke, ppl are still catching up with DVDs for gods sake. it will fail.

  • Nikanoru #59 5 years ago

    That report is BS, every know's Nintendo are a one trick pony. They've released the Wii with no real class 1st Party games, ( Wii Sports the gimmick & Legend of Zelda don't count ), and now there's the usual Nintendo drought.

    Not only that, what hold's out for the Wii after Metroid and Mario Galaxy have been released? They need at least one other out of the blue game like Pikmin.

    The DS is almost as good as dead too, I can only see 1 quality game, Zelda being released this year for that system.


    ROFL! Well, all joking aside, the sad thing is that many -real- nintendo hateboys actually do spout crap like this.

  • smelly #60 5 years ago

    "Can't see it myself, people soon get bord of waiting for releases"


    Sigh.. As with every console launch. The 360's line up at this time of year was no better.. Ditto to the current titles on the ps3.

    If the wii continues to sell the way it has been, then it'll get more 3rd party support anyhow. The cube thing wont happen as long as it remains popular.

    As for outselling the other two.. I can sorta see the logic (but dont necesarily agree). The 360 and ps3 games cost so much to make that the chance of either getting major exclusives is slim. So both will pretty much get the exact same games as each other, so there will be little to determine them both apart (unless you're a blinkered fanboy). Both systems will carry on getting "ultra-hardcore" games (which personally bore the hell out of me) like fps, racing, sports, etc.

    The wii on the other hand will be getting mainly exclusives, so it's a "justified" buy away from the other two.

    Normally I'ld own all 3 consoles. But this time around theres nothing to decipher between 360 and ps3, so i see no need to get both of them.

    So I can understand where he's coming from. The hardcore nerds wont like it.. But it does make sense. However, obviously it's all down to whether the momentum can be held, once the initial "wow factor" has gone will it carry on selling? Who knows.

    They have skanked up though imho, the wii at the moment is such hot property that if they couldve got enough units on the shelves, I'm sure it wouldve outsold the 360 and ps3 put together by now. But whether it'll continue to be hot property, or whether people will get bored is another matter.

  • smelly #61 5 years ago

    >They've released the Wii with no real class 1st Party games

    So what "real class 1st party games" did the ps3 or 360 launch with?

    dumbass.

  • _Price_ #62 5 years ago

    I don't know about the rest of the world (Japan=Playstation, USA=360), but in Britain they may be onto something.

    Based upon the fact that the PS3 and 360 are likely to be the formats that have 'true' next-gen games (i.e. those that couldn't have been produced using an Xbox) and the Wii seems to be the most fun thing in the world (well, a close second), the PSWii and Wii60 combinations are going to be the most common mulit-format options.

    This, alongside with the Wii's lower price point, gives the researchers (Jesus wept) a half decent set of criteria to build their conclusions on.

  • GitSomE_UK #63 5 years ago

    @thinktank

    Idiot

  • SirScratchalot #64 5 years ago

    @Pretty much everyone
    You know...
    There have been to pretty awesome games for the Wii released in the past two weeks so it's not exactly starved.
    If you still prefer the next-gen shinyness of your second gen 360 games fair enough but it's like you don't even notice the release schedule.

  • in5ane #65 5 years ago

    "Aren't you defining 'gamer' in a horribly narrow way? Surely it's just anyone who plays and buys, well, games? "

    Because gaming isn't just 'gaming' and 'gamers' doesn't mean all people who occasionally play video entertainment. There are genres and nuances that video gaming has had to lump together in the past due to its small market. Now it's all grown up, we need to start realising there are plenty of different types of gaming and plenty of different types of gamers, and trying to market to them all is just wrong. Including them all in the same market is wrong as well.

    So will the Wii (all round budget console, remote control, high rate of casual players/party games, minimum media capabilities) sell more than the PS3 and Xbox 360? (Expensive, media/online-centric, traditional games, joypad control) Yes.

    Just because analysts talk bollocks doesn't mean we can't string together some interesting debate. Except this is EG, and my posts aren't nearly as inflammatory as they need to be to get a response :)

  • in5ane #66 5 years ago

    "Apples and oranges? What about Eyetoy, Singstar and Buzz? Weren't they aimed at exactly the same audience as the Wii?

    And you're missing the much bigger point: publishers make games for the platform that has the largest userbase"

    Aldo_14 beat me to the first point, but the Wii vs 'party games' on other consoles are opposite situations. The Wii is built to accommodate the party game genre, Buzz is adding to an existing console in the hope some of it's install base want to play it. I have most PS2 party games, but mostly so I can involve my friends in the PS2. It's not the reason I have my PS2.

    Let's say Wii Sports came out for both the Wii and PS2. 90% of Wii'ers would buy it, 50% of PS2'ers would buy it. Same game, same audience, still different.

    As for the largest userbase, the Wii is a funny position. It's not next-gen, it's not high def- publishers wouldn't scale back their games (e.g. Half Life, GTA, etc) to work primarily with the Wii. A large Wii base will mean more (inappropriate) ports of existing games, but the 360/PC/PS3 will still drive development of new modern games.

    I can think of tons of things capable of playing games with a big userbase, yet not as attractive to publishers as traditional consoles. For example, Sky have over 8m customers in the UK (many with multiple boxes) all hooked up to TVs, so why not develop GTA for that? And how many mobiles are there in the world, yet mobile gaming is still pretty crappy, and no one is halting development of a 360 game to create a mobile title :)

    I don't think userbase in this situation.

  • smelly #67 5 years ago

    >As for the largest userbase, the Wii is a funny position. It's not next-gen,

    Hmmm.. I keep hearing this being touted.. And at first i agreed.. But look back in the (c)anals of history...

    Compared to the n64 and dreamcast, ps1 wasnt "next gen" it still sold shit loads more, and still got shit loads more support.

    Compared to the xbox the ps2 wasnt exactly "next gen" either.. It still sold shit loads more, and it still got shit loads more support.

    .. if you go back further this is true every gen...

  • mike_mgoblue #68 5 years ago

    Aren't these idiot researchers the same ones who said the Playstation 3 would be the number one selling game system???

    That NEVER even came close to happening, because the Playstation 3 has no decent exclusive games, and it costs WAAAY too much, and the online features are TERRIBLE on the Playstation 3.

    The Playstation 3 sucks so bad that they even made a song about how it killed the Playstation name-brand!!!

    The fact of the matter is that the Wii is still in it's "launch period" where it is selling a larger than ordinary number of systems. Let's not forget that even during the holidays the Xbox 360 still outsold both the Wii and the Playstation 3.

    When the Xbox 360 price is dropped later this year, then this "research gang" will look like a bunch of high-school drop-out "gang-members," because the Xbox 360's lower price will put the system at a pricepoint very close to the Wii, and perhaps lower with the Core unit. When that happens, the Xbox 360 will outsell the Wii...BIGTIME!!!

    Even Activision said that they expect the Xbox 360 to sell 5 million systems this year, and the Wii to sell 4 million systems this year...and that will expand the lead the Xbox 360 has over the Wii and the PS3. At this point in time the Xbox 360 has sold over 10.6 million systems worldwide, the Wii has sold 4.7 million, and the Playstation 3 has sold only 1.6 million.

    But the Xbox 360 and the Wii aren't really direct competitors...The Wii is called a "New-Generation system" because of its controller...but the Xbox 360 is called a "Next-Generation System," because it has high-definition graphics, true 5.1 sound, and such excellent online play. The only reason Microsoft said that their toughtest competitor is the Wii is because of the fact that they get virtually no competition from the very poor selling Playstation 3.

    By the way, the song that refers to how Sony went wrong with their PS3 is at this website:

    [link url=http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=R98qC0fd_1w
    ]http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=R98qC0fd_1w
    [/link]
    Edited by 2 at 03/03/07 @ 02:15

  • Birchy #69 5 years ago

    @ dirigiblebill RE non gamer split:

    This christmas my 3 neices (All under 10) all got a DS lite, because they wanted to play Nintendogs and my sister having not played a game since the megadrive days. got a wii.

    Between them they've bought around 10 (Admitedly pants - Cars, Pipa funnel) games for the DS and another remote, Nunchuck and 1 of the party titles for the wii, With Wii fitness being completed evey day since they purchased the console.

    They know nothing of gaming but Nintendo have made products that appeal to the non gamer as you can see.

  • dirigiblebill #70 5 years ago

    @ birchy

    I too have a sister who's recently invested in Nintendo hardware for the 'non-gaming' games, but for all I know she could be in a heavily-advertised minority. Are there any surveys around to indicate what percentage of Wii owners are 'lay-people'?

    @in5ane

    You make some good points there.

  • smelly #71 5 years ago

    @mike_mgoblue : If you DONT think the ps3 will outsell the other 2 eventually, then you're quite frankly deluded. Even the fanniest fanboy can see it will.

    Even though it's currently bombing, If you add up US and Japanese sales and compare against 360's US and japanese sales, it's STILL sold almost half the numbers of the 360 in the first few months (and it's not been released in europe yet).

    Come the end of the year the ps3 will have outsold the 360, gauranteed. I wouldnt bet on the wii doing the same thing.. my guess is it's a 50/50 chance.

    Edited by 1 at 04/03/07 @ 22:29