Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Review

By Tom Bramwell Published 29 September, 2009

Naughty Dog has its day.

Version tested: PlayStation 3

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is beautiful, and Naughty Dog knows it. About halfway through, the game almost comes to a halt so that Nathan Drake can wander around a village where nobody speaks English and he is unable to run or use any of his small but imaginative range of gymnastic abilities. There is nothing to do but stare at the scenery: children and livestock scurrying across sun-baked mud-tracks crisscrossed by shadows cast from clothes fluttering back and forth on washing lines, the perfect transition of bright daylight to dark interiors, and a spectacular mountain range rising beyond the rooftops in panorama.

The attention to detail is beyond compare. One of the children squirms and blushes with embarrassment when Drake kicks him a football and he holds it to his chest uncertainly; the dark outlines of the clothing on the ground cast by the brilliant sun soften at their extremities, which are devoid of the jagged serration typical of game engines being pushed to their limits; Drake strolls with cautious optimism, as the exceptional voice actor Nolan North throws out a few gentle quips that convey his character's puzzlement without ever seeming contrived or scripted. Ahead of Drake walks Temzin, the hat-wearing sherpa whose dialogue you never understand, but with whom you develop one of the strongest bonds in the game.

1

Uncharted 2 begins with a flash-forward, which immediately draws you in with its dazzling scale and implications.

The village also answers a question many were asking at the conclusion of 2007's marvellous Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, which lifted so many treasures from its peers - notably its Tomb Raider platforming and Gears of War combat - and fashioned them around Naughty Dog's own wit and matinee storytelling. Was the likeable Sony-exclusive developer, whose Jak & Daxter series had grown to mask its routine objectives behind novel weapons and punchy one-liners, capable of the subtle changes and deft transitions necessary to elevate the series to the same standing as mature action storytellers like Valve and Bungie?

The 90 minutes of action that precede the narrative braking manoeuvre are a game in themselves. Drake and new love interest Chloe Frazer are creeping and skirmishing through a city in the grip of a war between mercenaries fighting for the game's principle bad guy, Zorin Lazarevic, and local resistance. Lazarevic and Drake are both on the trail of the Cintamani Stone, a Buddhist sapphire with mystical properties, and its resting place in the legendary kingdom of Shambhala, otherwise known as Shangri-La. The length of a movie later, Drake is lying in the snow surrounded by a train-wreck, having been double-crossed, disarmed, blown up, demolished in a building, strafed by gunships and reunited with Elena, the heroine of Drake's Fortune, and the third point of the sequel's compelling love triangle.

2

The banter between characters is reputedly improvised in some cases, and feels light and natural throughout.

Drake is broken and exhausted. He needs a lie down. So, more importantly, does the player, and Naughty Dog's answer is my favourite part of Uncharted 2 - a quarter of an hour's respite where you don't really do anything. It's the sort of change of pace that, having brought the game to a superb crescendo, Drake's Fortune would have squandered with a light jog through trees or ruins and a few perfunctory jumping puzzles. Uncharted 2's realisation of the developer's dream - to create the videogame equivalent of a comforting adventure film - is personified not merely by the impressive way the game expands and entangles its discrete mechanics to disrupt your expectations of an action platformer, but predominantly by the sympathetic organisation of high and low tempo set-pieces.

Drake was always a very rounded person, largely thanks to North, whose light touch is always perfectly mapped to the emotional contours of the game's peerless in-engine story sequences, but he is now a much more rounded videogame character. As well as crawling and leaping between foot and handholds, swinging from ropes and bars and moving intuitively between cover points firing pistols, shotguns, rifles and other weapons, he can also fire one-handed while dangling, and employ a range of stealth takedowns, lurking behind walls and hanging from ledges to haul enemies into long drops or immobilise them with choke-holds.

Naughty Dog is shrewd throughout, reducing complex actions to a single button in most cases, explaining the context of each with a little drop of Drake's shoulder, or directing your attention to the way forward with flickering spot-lights or a change of colour. There's almost no need for intrusive signposting, although the game has optional hints that pop up if your movements betray any confusion. The routing is linear but lively, pipes breaking away from their bindings under Drake's weight, which opens up slight detours, while Drake's own movements suggest a man permanently clawing for purchase at the outer reaches of his capabilities, in diametric opposition to their delightful simplicity from your perspective.

3

The main bad guys are English and Russian. The more things change, no?

While one or more of Chloe, Elena and shifty Englishman Harry Flynn are directly involved in the action for the majority of the game, their presence is so seldom disruptive that the two occasions it crosses the line are as jarring as they are ultimately irrelevant to the whole. The supporting cast also allows for more storytelling throughout rather than simply in cut-scenes, and actresses Claudia Black (Chloe) and Emily Rose (Elena) are as well-cast as North, while the opposition front-men are suitably bad and evil.

There are a few shades of grey on the road to Shambhala, but no more so than in films like Indiana Jones, which are derived from the same 1930s serials that lurk in the Uncharted games' own genetic ancestry. Uncharted 2's subtitle is Among Thieves, a reference to Drake's own conflict over the path he's taken and the universe it commits him to inhabit, but apart from a few swearwords and occasional stabs of PG romance this is a simple tale of heroes and villains that any child could understand. Far from a criticism though, it's further evidence of Naughty Dog's considerable wisdom: wit and mystery perfectly pitched for maximum accessibility.

4

Hidden treasures are littered throughout the world and provide cash to spend on visual filters, speed tweaks and player skins.

That mystery, once illuminated by the lost writings of Marco Polo, flares to life through restrained exposition and underpins the game's puzzles, which continue to rely on your reading of Drake's journal. There's less mechanical invention here than in the game's imaginative cross-country train sequence or a final act with a touch of the 1925 Lost World about it, but there's reasonable satisfaction to be had unlocking the entrance to an underground temple by reconfiguring a Buddhist monument, or rotating gigantic tumblers in a sunken ice fortress, and more importantly the circumstances of each brainteaser are infused with the right level of urgency and a convincing sense that only Drake, through his actions and acquisitions, could be in a position to solve challenges of the ancients left in plain sight for so many centuries.

The way Uncharted 2 unites its platform and action sequences is often its greatest strength, escaping the repetitive pattern of discrete alternating sequences in Drake's Fortune - and helping to manoeuvre the action between diverse locations in the process, which was another sticking point two years ago. With that said, more and more of the former creeps back into the game as it moves toward its conclusion, to the point that it's sometimes reliant on North and the Shambhala mystery to carry you past gratuitous fight sequences.

Drake's stealth skills and more complex environments that allow for greater verticality mitigate this somewhat, but by the final showdown there have been a few too many body-armoured shotgun shock-troops, and other aggressive, unyielding adversaries not to brush the smile partly from the player's face at the restoration of a seemingly distant last checkpoint. Combat is engaging and varied, but Drake is still not so fluent a pugilist or gunfighter as some of his contemporaries, and his enemies' intelligent use of cover and flanking manoeuvres comes to feel disproportionate to his own capacity for resistance. There are also a few occasions where the platforming lets you down, often to a bloody pulp hundreds of metres below, despite the feeling you were jumping in the right direction.

It might seem unreasonable to append much significance to minor lapses - in amongst which the game is still capable of moments of great quality, like a dangling assault on snipers in a crumbling monastery - but the smaller the blemish in an otherwise convincing model the greater its significance. Having paid so much attention to the details in every margin of storytelling and technical direction (witness the way snow or mud gradually builds up on Drake's clothing and footwear as he tumbles around), Naughty Dog's decision to increase the volume of the conflict and enclose the noise certainly improves the acoustics of Drake's desperate situation, but feels like a wrong turn from a developer evidently capable of achieving the same effect more subtly.

5

Some fights can be shorted by dispatching an initial group of enemies without being seen - leaving nobody to call for reinforcements.

Where Naughty Dog is on the right track though is in its decision to make multiplayer a significant component. Stocked with derivations on deathmatch and team games like capture-the-flag, king-of-the-hill and domination, the players' unusual agility, a good ranking system with credible perks and a satisfying choice of playlists make it an easy decision to stay on for the next game, and then several more, especially if you settle into a good party coordinating via headset. The decision to match everyone's loadouts and sprinkle marquee weapons around keeps you guessing, and there's lots of personality to each encounter: levels are repurposed and augmented single-player settings and a few have game-changing gimmicks attached, like a tank that rumbles through a village killing indiscriminately. It's also possible to hang from ledges and pull other players over your head as they approach for a quick kill.

There are co-operative levels too, including something in the Horde/Firefight mould, although these arguably suffer from the same issues as the more extreme battles in the single-player, and multi-person tasks like pushing or lifting objects feel a little contrived. Elsewhere, in competitive matches, money earned from kills goes towards rankings, so there's little to be lost by reckless grenade-throwing and knowingly futile melee swipes to down a wounded foe, even at the risk of your own exposure to nearby gunfire. (We'll revisit Uncharted 2 multiplayer for more in-depth impressions later in October.)

6

Plunder mode sees teams transporting a randomly placed treasure back to their spawn. They move slowly while holding it, but can always lob it with the L2 button.

Even so, multiplayer may solve the riddle of how a linear action-adventure like Uncharted - filled with exceptional set-pieces but still a few tweaks short of a game like Halo's strategic foundations - can earn a longer stay in the Blu-ray drives of gamers whose mass consumption of Call of Duty suggests a hunger for long-term value. Matchmaking is resilient after two rounds of beta-testing, with good host-migration and apparently decent checks and balances against griefing, and a brilliant Cinema mode that captures and allows you to play back any game - and even upload them to the internet. European critics in particular were sceptical about Uncharted 2 multiplayer, but colour me converted.

Whether or not the multiplayer sticks, however, is arguably a footnote, because at the core of Uncharted 2 is an action-adventure masterpiece whose minor flaws are washed away on a tide of rhythm and spectacle - one that would still be an essential experience even without the option to pull your friends off cliffs and play capture-the-heirloom. For over a dozen pulsating hours, Nathan Drake is among thieves, just as Naughty Dog was when it made the first game by ransacking surrounding genres. By the end of Uncharted 2 though, Drake has found his place in the world, and so has the developer - among giants.

10 / 10

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  • tossetaz #1 3 years ago

    10/10 - wow that was even better than expected!!

    Looking forward to reading this - good thing I preordered the game :)

  • liverpoolfc #2 3 years ago

    so its better than gears of war

  • Mugwum Verified Operations Director, Eurogamer Network #3 3 years ago

    " so its better than gears of war "

    Yes. Very different though, obviously.

    Good handle.

  • frunk #4 3 years ago

    What! Not an 11? :p

  • liverpoolfc #5 3 years ago

    better than halo 3 odst FACT

  • stoopidgreg #6 3 years ago

    this may be the best reason yet to buy a PS3

  • phatb0y #7 3 years ago

    Christ. This is going to be carnage.

  • Triggerhappytel #8 3 years ago

    Oh my Christ, my hype levels for this are going through the roof.

    Can not wait!

  • PeacockDreams #9 3 years ago

    Great stuff! I only played and completed the first game about 5 months ago, and fell in love with it, this sounds even better, day one purchase ( or probably get it a couple of days earlier than release day due to my shady contacts in my local game store)!

  • TurboBailey #10 3 years ago

    Holy Crap!
    Is this the first 10/10 Eurogamer has given as PS3 game???

  • PeacockDreams #11 3 years ago

    They have sneaked the demo out have they? Good lord, what a day!

  • Peew971 #12 3 years ago

    Wow! No surprise here if you've played the first one.. This is why the Xbox 360 will never be complete (to quote what they said when they got Metal Gear), they have nothing like Uncharted. And that's coming from a 360 fanboy!
    I'm glad I own both console and will be able to enjoy this masterpiece :)

  • Benno #13 3 years ago

    sold

  • Darren #14 3 years ago

    I've no idea whether Uncharted 2 deserves a 10/10 score but on the basis of that excellent review it certainly sounds like it does. Awesome. My most highly anticipated game of 2009 by miles, I cannot wait to play this. Batman: Arkham Asylum has been the highlight of my gaming year so far but I've a feeling that Uncharted might top that.

    My only worry at the moment is that I get my repaired PS3, which was picked up by the courier today, back in time for the game's release as I have it pre-ordered.

  • Stormflood #15 3 years ago

    I feared an 8. Glad to have been wrong. Day one.

  • Kenshin001 #16 3 years ago

    Nice. Really looking forward to this game. Loved the first one and ND have really put their heart and soul in the sequel. Can't wait.

  • PeacockDreams #17 3 years ago

    Of course the 360 dosent have an Unchartered like game, its a machine built to only play FPS and Need for Speed updates ;)

  • Negotiator #18 3 years ago

    Will buy it, but the first one was overrated, I don't care what anyone says.

  • the_dudefather #19 3 years ago

    F yeah!

    Really looking forward to this now, hope the characters are as good as in the first game (a rare game were the characters were very likable, at least for me :) )

  • owl #20 3 years ago

    comments thread paging donnie

    come in donnie. . .

  • Darren #21 3 years ago

    @evilfoxhound - Ahhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooo... this is what I feared... an Uncharted 2 demo and no PS3 to play it on. Buggeration! :(

  • byron_hinson #22 3 years ago

    can't wait - 3 weeks it too damn long

  • jerrymanu #23 3 years ago

    I skimmed the review so as not to spoil it :) Uncharted was great and seeing as ND have nailed it again i'd say a 10 is fair. Sweet :)

  • Inigo #24 3 years ago

    Still never got around to play the first one, should be real cheap now.

  • dustrat #25 3 years ago

    Woah.

  • jaywalker3010 Verified Mastering Manager, Square Enix #26 3 years ago

    am a 360 man, but so glad my other half has a ps3 as SO cant wait to play this :)

  • KayJay #27 3 years ago

    Great review Tom. Really enjoyed that.
    Top Stuff.

  • Mchief22 #28 3 years ago

    oh my goodness eurogamer actually gave a PS3 game a 10, and the internet explodes lol!!

  • Hunam #29 3 years ago

    Sounds like the voice acting is as spot on as last time, good to hear, that was always the best bit of Uncharted, how natural the script/acting was.

  • Kryton #30 3 years ago

    @Negotiator what would you say is a great game then!? Wicked!, Super pleased I punted for a PS3 :D

  • VandelayIndustries #31 3 years ago

    Great review!
    Can't wait to play it, the next two weeks are going to feel like two months.

  • George-Roper #32 3 years ago

    Nice

  • mgillespie #33 3 years ago

    A 10/10 from Eurogamer for a PS3 title is a 12/10 from anyone else. It's commonlu accepted that anything PS3 exclusive gets marked down on Eurogamer, always has been the case.

    Personally I rated the original as a 10/10 too, it obliterated everything else at the time ON ALL SYSTEMS. I put in more time and got 5x more enjoyment out of it than I did Halo3 and Gears2.
    Edited by mgillespie at 29/09/09 @ 19:25

  • Les #34 3 years ago

    Haven't read the review. Loved the first game not taking itself seriously so am hoping this will be as good. Shame about the resources wasted on the multiplayer.

  • chessboxer #35 3 years ago

    (in the voice from UT2004 when you turned the graphics details to maximum)

    HOLY SHIT!

    I'm looking forward to this.

  • XdarXideX #36 3 years ago

    God damn it! Now I have to try out the first one EG! You sons of bitches!

  • Pedrolot #37 3 years ago

    Instant sale.

    Epic series!

  • spudsbuckley #38 3 years ago

    The first game was a 10 for me and it really should have been a system-seller. Can't wait for this one.

  • Peew971 #39 3 years ago

    Ok, whoever said there was a demo... there isn't. It's the same beta people have been playing and I'm sorry to say it sucks a bit. You can't release this on the day reviews are out, people are going to wonder if the scores are genuine.

  • Jay-ITFC #40 3 years ago

    Wowzer! Have the first game but never played it. Need to get on it in preperation for this!

  • Law07 #41 3 years ago

    THE PS3 NEEDS MORE TRIPLE A EXCLUSIVES BEFORE I BUY IT!!!!



    I kid I kid

  • RedSparrows #42 3 years ago

    Fuck off fanboys, just, fuck, off.

    Someone gimme some cash, I need a slim and this, now!

  • spiny #43 3 years ago

    Batman, THIS, Demon's Souls...it's a good year!

  • Negotiator #44 3 years ago

    @Kryton, glad you asked, Uncharted was a good game 8 out of 10, but the 9's it was getting were very generous, thats what I mean by overrated. Uncharted 2 sounds like the superb game everyone said Uncharted was, fingers crossed. Games I think are superb, when they came out, Halo, MGS1, GTA4,HL2.

  • Branoic #45 3 years ago

    Pfft, 10/10? Is that all? Would have been better on XBox360.
    I'M JOKING i'M JOKING!!

  • clean515 #46 3 years ago

    lol what a shitty score, ps3 doesnt have any good games.

  • CroKiller #47 3 years ago

    I'm so tired that I can't read. Is it mentioned how long is SP? Thanks for answer.

    It is time to dust off my PS3 after long time.

  • xentar #48 3 years ago

    Wow! Just wow! And hats down. Not talking about the gane, from all the coverage here on EG i knew it will be awesome. Whats even better is this review. I cant remember reading such good wall of text in a long long time. Thank you Tom for superb read. What intriques me the most is how you got by without stressing graphics of the game which is a feat itself.

  • Kryton #49 3 years ago

    "@Kryton, glad you asked, Uncharted was a good game 8 out of 10, but the 9's it was getting were very generous, thats what I mean by overrated. "

    :D so 1 mark higher than your opinion makes it "very generous"? What high standards you have! :D Cant really comment on HoLOL but GTAIV = great. HL2? Now thats over rated!

  • mzx #50 3 years ago

    One of the best games of all time!

  • SeesThroughAll #51 3 years ago

    @squarejawhero: I think a simple "better than KillZone" will suffice in that case. Most people would rather forget the first one ever existed anyway ;)

  • Ryze #52 3 years ago

    Awwwwww SHIT! Naughty Dog obviously know what they're doing! I might have to grab this nearer to Chrimbo.

  • jonsaan #53 3 years ago

    YAY! Is that the PS3's first 10?

  • cianchristopher #54 3 years ago

    Wow, just, wow! I *really* would have bet the house on this getting a 9! I never, ever, ever thought it would actually get a 10 from EG!

    Well ain't that a kick in the head?

    Anyway, bravo Naughty Dog! The PS3's first exclusive 10 (on here)! Kick-ass!!!

  • El_MUERkO #55 3 years ago

    10, wow, it had the feeling of a 10 on page one but still... wow.

  • bumgut #56 3 years ago

    Might get that PS3 in the new year,,,

  • DDevil #57 3 years ago

    Eurogamer are such Sony fanboys. How much did they pay you for this review?

  • Spekingur #58 3 years ago

    Wish it was on X360 as well.
    Also, Uncharted always reminds me of Romancing the Stone.

    However, if you don't really like (linear) adventure games you might actually not like this game. I guess.

  • mowgli #59 3 years ago

    Bloody hell so it really is THAT good. I thought everyone else was just getting a bit over excited but I trust EG and they have given it the coveted 10!

  • spudsbuckley #60 3 years ago

    Killzone 2 was fairly average. I'm sure people who've only played 3 or 4 other shooters probably think it's ace though.

    Anyways, roll on UC2 :D

  • rotmm #61 3 years ago

    I may have been in the minority, but I thought the first game was good, but not great.

    However, this game looks great.... fucking fantastic even. Well done to the Naughties.

  • fjharps #62 3 years ago

    the demo is out on the US store on the euro all i find is the beta as someone said before

    BTW its 1272 MB just like the euro beta
    Edited by fjharps at 29/09/09 @ 20:01

  • Wildsleven #63 3 years ago

    nice review, a must buy for ps3 owners :D

  • kendoji #64 3 years ago

    Yikes.

    /lines up with people wishing they had a PS3

  • messiahtj #65 3 years ago

    "Ok, whoever said there was a demo... there isn't. It's the same beta people have been playing and I'm sorry to say it sucks a bit. You can't release this on the day reviews are out, people are going to wonder if the scores are genuine. "

    Cry moar!!!!

    OT: First day for me too.

  • Furfoot #66 3 years ago

    This might be the first turnip to make me buy a dishwasher.

  • zoweewowee #67 3 years ago

    THANK U NAUGHTY GOD

  • Khanivor #68 3 years ago

    How many lines of Sony coke did tom do before writing this review?

  • CaptainTrips #69 3 years ago

    Wow! i must admit I never played the first, so may pick it up over the next three weeks, once I've sunk my teeth into Halo: ODST that is.

    Should tie me over nicely until the GoW re-issues are released - nice to be finally able to use my PS3 as something other than a BluRay/DVD player! :)
    Edited by CaptainTrips at 29/09/09 @ 20:20

  • Godhather08 #70 3 years ago

    "By the end of Uncharted 2 though, Drake has found his place in the world, and so has the developer - among giants."

    Naughty Gods showing off the power of the PlayStation.

    Awesome review.

  • Vin #71 3 years ago

    Does Drake still moonwalk in the game, or has that been sorted and it actually feels like he's got some meat on him now?

  • MeBrains #72 3 years ago

    @khanivor: How many lines of Sony coke did tom do before writing this review?

    Huh?! O_o

  • JayeM #73 3 years ago

    Naughty Dog, I love you.

  • DAN.E.B #74 3 years ago

    day one purchase for me
    why are retards talking about xbox in a ps3 game thread?

  • Velios #75 3 years ago

    And to think that I was just about to eBay my PS3...

  • Retroid #76 3 years ago

    \o/

    Now to get my PS3 repaired and I can enjoy this too!

    ^_________^

  • Velios #77 3 years ago

    If my grandparents weren't visiting for tea, I'd probably get my nob out and start wanking over the monitor.

  • Killerbee #78 3 years ago

    Excellent stuff. And a very good review too.

    This and Modern Warfare 2 are my only pre-orders for the rest of the year - and to be honest I'm really starting doubt that I'll need anything more for the rest of 2009.

    I can't wait.

  • PrivateJoker #79 3 years ago

    @Crofto

    Have you played the game to completion?

    Of course not, so STFU.

  • gohda #80 3 years ago

    do want!

  • Bremenacht #81 3 years ago

    I don't think it would be the first time EG have done multiplayer separately. You need quite other on-line players to test against you know - often difficult with a game that isn't yet on sale.

    Ahhhh - comments threads. They bring out the very best in people. :)

  • DDevil #82 3 years ago

    It's ridiculous that time and again Eurogamer prove that they're in Sony's back pocket. Ever since they declared the PS3 was the real next gen an obvious bias against Nintendo and Xbox has run through this site.

    10/10 just shows they're caught up in the hype of this over-rated flavour of the week.

  • El-Dev #83 3 years ago

    Cheer the fuck up Crofto, you're meant to enjoy games not yap about them.


    Can't wait to get my paws on this. Gonna be awesome. Will anyone be playing the multiplayer demo tonight or tomorrow? We could organize a few games. From what I've heard from people I know it's pretty good.


    Before I forget.
    [link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/sony-europe-dates-uncharted-2/comments?comment_start=50
    ]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/sony-e...[/link]
    Muscleblade, do you like apples?
    Edited by El-Dev at 29/09/09 @ 23:10

  • rotmm #84 3 years ago

    @PrivateJoker,

    Crofto is a deluded cunt. Don't mind him.

  • shotgun44 #85 3 years ago

    Once again I direct you to this, Crofto at his finest...

    'Yeah, a big gamer with pretty strong but informed views on gaming, which often leads to me looking down on most gaming reviewers since they talk complete nonsense. I know what makes a good game, and what makes a bad game... I've been wasting my free time playing the bloody things long enough to tell the difference (unlike most gamers out there).

    You'll not often find me lavishing unfounded praise upon the likes of Grand Theft Auto or Gears of War, but rather on actual high quality games such as Okami and Super Mario Galaxy, which really are examples of excellent and polished gaming design.'

  • MeBrains #86 3 years ago

    "How many lines of Sony coke did tom do before writing this review? "

    -> Khanivor needs to get some.

    I take it rating an honest review favorable towards a PS3 game as being above that of a 360 one is not comparable to claiming the 360 one is not above the PS3 one. Weird.

    Really weird

    Nae hope at all.

  • Progguitarist #87 3 years ago

    The beta is a 10 for me alone. Cant wait to pick up the full game!

  • Vin #88 3 years ago

    Pretty fucking tragic to throw a minus down for a fair question, EG.

  • ps3owner #89 3 years ago

    wow

    metacritic

  • jerrymanu #90 3 years ago

    Wow indeed

  • ElNino9 #91 3 years ago

    /Shopto

    /buys

  • sanctusmortis #92 3 years ago

    Well, PS3 now has 2 95+ Metacritic exclusives, to the 360's none (Halo 3 and Gears both 94). Shit, need to get some cash together to get a Slim for my birthday...

  • Velios #93 3 years ago

    I tell ya... I got my PS3 on day one... and I don't feel that it ever really paid me back in awesome gaming moments since most of the best games are also available (and looked better on) Xbox360

    However... Drakes fortune and now this game will have single handedly justified the purchase of that PS3 (oh and watching Dark knight on Blu Ray)

    I cannot wait to get it!

  • man.the.king #94 3 years ago

    @Kryton

    at your question to Negotiator: "what would you say is a great game then!?"

    From his (and some other fanboys' like donnie's) perspectives, anything exclusively on the 360, even if it's only Lips or You Are In The Movies :))
    Edited by man.the.king at 29/09/09 @ 21:30

  • MiY4MOTO #95 3 years ago

    The first game is an unsurpassed landmark title in this genre, and to be honest I would have been disappointed with anything less than a 10. Not that the review nor the score at the end would have affected my pre-order.

    This is without a doubt my most wanted game this year, ahead of Halo 3: ODST, Modern Warfare 2, Forza 3, Left 4 Dead 2 and even Assassins Creed 2. So far this year's high-point for me was a tie between Batman: Arkham Asylum & the unexpected joy that was Shadow Complex (also voiced by Nolan North). Eagerly awaiting my copy.

    Hell, I even got my PS3 replaced so I could be sure that I could play it at launch! (My launch PS3 was all but dead...)

    Thank you Naughty Dog. If only other PS3 devs could turn out gems of this quality.

  • Atropos #96 3 years ago

    You people really need to stop feeding the trolls. Especially when they're super-duper obvious ones like DDevil.

  • Velios #97 3 years ago

    For those that haven't played the original... pick up a budget pre-owned copy! It really is brilliant and will set you up nicely for this sequel!

  • TopKatt #98 3 years ago

    Fantastic! With ODST for the Xbox fans and this for us PS3 fans, its a great time to be a gamer!

  • KTroopA #99 3 years ago

    /sold

    finally a reason to turn on my PS3 and not just check whats on PSN :)

  • RedSparrows #100 3 years ago

    woe @ metacritic comments

  • TopKatt #101 3 years ago

    "and for thoe of us with both.. it's absolutely stunning."

    I hope you've got plenty of supplies in, I don't think you'll be leaving the house for a while.

  • MrWonderstuff #102 3 years ago

    The one game to make me buy a PS3. Next year.

  • lavalant #103 3 years ago

    @trebell ,lets not get carried away, Halo ODST is shite and I say that as an xbox fanboy. MS should give Sony the Halo Franchise in return for a port of this game.

    Yes I hate FPS games.

  • Nightbite #104 3 years ago

    HM..thanks for giving away about 5 nice little suprises..spoiler-tastic review...

  • Lawlost #105 3 years ago

    PS3 owners you lucky bastards, i envy you ;-)

  • f00b_inc #106 3 years ago

    I loved the first one (frustrating in places but I still think of it fondly!) and was hoping this sequel would pan out nicely! Sounds like it has so think I'll definitely be picking this up. /preorders

    I'm definitely more interested in the SP (don't have the time to get sucked in to excessive amounts of MP!) - MP inclusion here looks like a fun bonus though. I wonder if it will hold it's interest / displace various gamers fave online games, or if it's just a minor diversion

  • man.the.king #107 3 years ago

    Was expecting the score (based on EG's earlier glowing articles of praise), and the review was great as well. Anyway, had already pre-ordered this a month back.

    Too many great games this year-end and not enough cash to get them all! :(
    Edited by man.the.king at 29/09/09 @ 21:33

  • thefishmonger #108 3 years ago

    Gonna pick this up along the first title and a PS3 late next year for a bargain price.

  • duttyri #109 3 years ago

    How can you give a 10 to a psfail game.

  • sargulesh #110 3 years ago

    Looks like the most boring shit I've ever seen. I don't get it.

  • mkreku #111 3 years ago

    I wish this was on PC too. Now I'll have to convince my PS3 owning cousin to buy this and then live in his living room for a week.

  • sargulesh #112 3 years ago

    MrsPacMan: PS3's best exclusives are Valkyria Chronicles and Demon's Souls (and From's upcoming 3D Dot Heroes looks good too.)

  • PeacockDreams #113 3 years ago

    Crofto you utter shaft, have you played the game yet? No? Then how on earth are you able to know what score the game should get, get a grip, its a review, its someones opinion, opinions cant be wrong
    Edited by PeacockDreams at 29/09/09 @ 22:32

  • muttler #114 3 years ago

    Look at those scores, people! PS3 fully justifies it's purchase AGAIN, like it did with MGS 4, Uncharted:DF, Motorstorm:pR, LBP, Killzone 2 mp and Valkyria Chronicles.

  • Roarrr #115 3 years ago

    My fingers are getting sore from clicking ignore so much in this thread.

    *on-topic* The 1st Uncharted was a classic. Rarely do I buy a game and hold onto it after completion, UC1 deserved it. There wasn't so much hype back then though but even with the hype, this is one title that stands to meet it and then some. Cannot wait for a superb single player experience. These days I have less time for MP gaming with job etc and value that there are devs out there crafting such titles. I'm looking forward to heavy rain also.
    Edited by Roarrr at 29/09/09 @ 22:02

  • Dave52 #116 3 years ago

    Pre-ordered ages ago... 10/10, that has to be a rarity...

    Can't wait for the Head To Head.... oh wait...

  • LilithsCurves #117 3 years ago

    Claudia Black is one of the character voices? I like her. One more thing to look(hear) forward too.

  • TRUTH #118 3 years ago

    I thought the 1st one was overrated (very liner and action was samey and boring towards the end - graphics where good, but honestly nothing that's been done before)...look forward to this as it seems (by this review and others) they have improved everything...It's the end of Lara!.

    Oh Demon's Souls is fairly decent action/ rpg - but verrrrrrrrrrry frustrating, and looks a bit aged now, also it can become very tedious doing the same mission again and again due to the games toughness(unfair at times)!
    Edited by TRUTH at 29/09/09 @ 22:16

  • HardCoreGamer999 #119 3 years ago

    A perfect 10 seems over the top ! No game is worth giving a perfect 10.
    it is just not credible. Being perfect in SP and also MP ...That's worth giving a 10.
    I still think that COD MW2 is the better game this year. Multiplayer will be better anyways.
    I already pre-ordered the game and i can't wait. SPlayer will kick ass for sure. The first one deserved a solid 8 imo.
    Still think that we will see the better ps3 games in 2010. My most anticipated game is "Heavy Rain"

  • el_pollo_diablo #120 3 years ago

    Not another fucking game I have to buy.

    Give me a break, game maker people. I need a life outside of all this.

  • siro #121 3 years ago

    One of the three games that make me gay for a PS3. This, its predecessor and Heavy Rain. When the latter one is out I'll probably crumble... just give me a good bundle bargain and I'd might snap before. :)
    Edited by siro at 29/09/09 @ 22:18

  • captainrentboy #122 3 years ago

    Awww maaan, just as I start to get my credit cards zeroed off and finally become totally debt free this bloody game tempts me to fork out another £250+ for a PS3. No, I can't, a new Washing Machine is far more important....... I hate having responsibilities, I need to move back in with my Mum :(

  • TRUTH #123 3 years ago

    Batman AA, Uncharted 2 (still think one is good - but not AAA title)...the two best games this year.

  • Kentlad #124 3 years ago

    That sir was one of the best reviews of I have ever read!!!

    Hat off to you.

    10/10 for journalism!

  • Mercatoria #125 3 years ago

    loved the first one best game on the PS3. Can't wait for this to be release. Excited I am.

  • headcasechris #126 3 years ago

    Its a first! Eurogamer actually likes a ps3 exclusive!!

  • Law07 #127 3 years ago

    The PS3 needs be dropped to £150 and I need to be given a blow job by Megan Fox.

    When I get that I will consider this game.

  • el_pollo_diablo #128 3 years ago

    I really like it when a game gets lots of 10/10s.
    I don't know why, it just makes me feel happy.

  • figaro7 #129 3 years ago

    Id def buy a ps3 for this, the action platformer is right up my alley!

  • solidSnake04 #130 3 years ago

    With This + DF analysis, it will take something special to rob Naughty Dog and Uncharted 2 the prize of GOTY.
    It will be interesting to see how COD Modern Warfare 2 will perform. Im betting on it being game of the year but they are so different from one another that I wonder, multiplayer aside, in what ways COD will deliver.

    From now to the end of the year, I guess its a face off between these 2 and possibly Batman AA too.

  • JohnnyWashnGo #131 3 years ago

    Wow - great score. Game sounds fantastic and I cant wait to get my copy in the post. Single player should be ace, couldn't care less about multiplayer though.

  • Edz72 #132 3 years ago

    Nice

    Looks like Demon Souls isn't going to be my game of 2009...

    Btw: If it hasn't already been mentioned it will pay for you to play the first Uncharted prior to this as you will get 20,000 credits if you have a saved game on your system or 80,000 if you have a completed save game. I assume these buy you loadouts/equipment etc in UC2.

  • Spekingur #133 3 years ago

    In my opinion a game shouldn't get a GOTY unless it can reach most gamers. There are a few more games coming up before the year is out that might just snatch up that title (such as Modern Warfare 2) - if those don't amount up to it then my vote would go to Batman: AA, even though I haven't played Uncharted 2. It's a good game that can reach more gamers than Uncharted 2 does.

  • SeesThroughAll #134 3 years ago

    If it hasn't already been mentioned it will pay for you to play the first Uncharted prior to this as you will get 20,000 credits if you have a saved game on your system or 80,000 if you have a completed save game. I assume these buy you loadouts/equipment etc in UC2.

    Interesting!... I guess that takes away any doubts of purchasing it then! :)

    Just curious. Does UC2 also unlock anything at all at Home?
    Edited by SeesThroughAll at 29/09/09 @ 22:53

  • BabyJesus #135 3 years ago

    So much for the conspiracy theories of Eurogamer hating the PS3, eh lads?

  • electrolite #136 3 years ago

    Stop going on about review scores YOU ILLITERATE MORONS! READ THE F**KING REVIEW!

    (note : this is a general comment, not just applying to this review. Games have been around a long time now, you really should have grown out of this)

  • electrolite #137 3 years ago

    @Spekingur.

    What?

    I mean...what?

  • Velios #138 3 years ago

    I'd be happier if Eurogamer removed the scores at the end of reviews so people actually have to read the words and then make a decision.

  • blackbriar101 #139 3 years ago

    10/10 This game must be epic.

  • freakzilla #140 3 years ago

    Goddamit!! Stop hyping this game so much, I really can't handle disappointment very well.

  • belziah #141 3 years ago

    Well fuck me......................

  • zedzee #142 3 years ago

    I guess congrats go to Naughty Dog.

  • freakzilla #143 3 years ago

    Great review by the way, really well written. I'd say more but I'm just not articulate enough.

  • GamesConnoisseur #144 3 years ago

    90 percent of my gaming is pure x360 but darned glad of having precious PS3 to play this sublime and a complete gaming experience. Still not going to make me chuck x360 but very much a game that will starts to correct the balance, PS3 does have a lot coming but this and the last Guardian are both..... Unmissable!

    Well done Naughty Dog!

  • MikeJones #145 3 years ago

    I thought only MS moneyhatted for 10 's. Now even Sony's doing it...

  • galerian86 #146 3 years ago

    Of all the time my PS3 to die on me!

    Brilliant, love the first, the 2nd seems even better!

  • RedSparrows #147 3 years ago

    'It will be interesting to see how COD Modern Warfare 2 will perform. Im betting on it being game of the year but they are so different from one another that I wonder, multiplayer aside, in what ways COD will deliver.'

    It's almost as if 'GOTY' is actually more importantly, a subjective, personal asessement!

  • BonzoBanana #148 3 years ago

    Looks like the huge learning curve to getting the best out of the ps3 has been conquered and we will start seeing exclusive ps3 games that look superior to 360 titles. Lets not forget though that the majority of multiformat titles will still probably be superior on 360 as its much easier to develop for. However it can't be long now before the 360 is pushed firmly into third place. Great times ahead for ps3 gaming!

  • drumbaby #149 3 years ago

    Wow...Msoft stopped paying your bills :)

  • solidSnake04 #150 3 years ago

    In fact I meant it in more than one way. There is a lot to be said about the technical achievements of Uncharted 2. Just check out DF article on it. But if the review is anything to go by, this game is also good on the storytelling side and multiplayer + cinema mode. The question is how well COD: MW2 will strike a good balance between all components of the game in a different yet better way, if it is to be the best game of the year.

  • drumbaby #151 3 years ago

    "The first game was a 10 for me and it really should have been a system-seller. Can't wait for this one. "

    Spud, u got it in one.

  • solidSnake04 #152 3 years ago

    Bonzo, indeed Naughty Dog has done an impressive job on the PS3, even with Uncharted 1(easily on my top 5 games), but if all you care is to push the 360 to the bottom of the hardware charts, then you are missing the point.

  • Spekingur #153 3 years ago

    @electrolite: What do you mean by what? What didn't you understand in what I wrote? The words? Or the concept that a game shouldn't get a GOTY if it's only released on one platform? Thus only reaching a certain amount of audience whereas the rest won't be able to experience it.

    No doubt Uncharted 2 is an awesome game, my opinion on GOTY has nothing to do with that.

  • freakzilla #154 3 years ago

    ^^
    So you're saying that being an exclusive basically disqualifies it from ever getting GOTY?

  • SeesThroughAll #155 3 years ago

    Well, fair enough, Spekingur, that's your personal opinion. Still, I don't think most people care about whether a game is multiplatform or not when they call it their GOTY.

  • Forral #156 3 years ago

    Surely 10/10 implies its flawless, yet you point out flaws.

    Bizarre reviewing policy.

  • SeesThroughAll #157 3 years ago

    Surely 10/10 implies its flawless

    Not really.

  • electrolite #158 3 years ago

    Being multi-platform, single-platform, reaching 500 people or 5000000 doesn't make a jot of difference to a game's quality

  • zztopp #159 3 years ago

    Just played the demo.

    In this day and age of inflated scores, this is probably close to an 8.5

  • Progguitarist #160 3 years ago

    Zztop has played the demo and is now qualified to give a review score to a game in which he hasnt played ANY of the single player, a couple of the MP modes and ONE of the co op maps.

    /shakes head in disbelief

  • Bangaioh #161 3 years ago

    wow, really hope it's worth 10, i haven't been as curious and excited in a while...

  • Spekingur #162 3 years ago

    @freakzilla: In my opinion, I just think a game shouldn't get an official GOTY stamp if it is an exclusive. Wouldn't matter weither it was on PS3, X360 or PC. Still, it is just my opinion - my reasoning being that how can a game be game of the year when the game isn't available on more than one gaming platform. It's like being at a concert where the people up front can hear a musician but the people at the middle and back can't hear a thing but see him on stage. After the concert the people up front say that the musician is the best musician ever but the people in the middle and in the back can't say yes or no to that since they couldn't hear him. And thus can't tell if he should in fact become the Musician of the Concert.

    @SeesThroughAll: If Uncharted 2 is someone's GOTY then good. Another gamer has their own idea of their personal GOTY. My point is on the use of the all-so-great-and-powerful official title of the GOTY. It irks me in some strange manner.

    @electrolite: Oh, I never said it wasn't good. I think it's probably an awesome game just like the first one.

  • o_ci2007 #163 3 years ago

    wow. a well articulated review, but it is bordering on being a bit flattering. I think Tom has spent time writing this one and you can almost feel the passion in his words. Well done. I hope its going to be a system seller, the last one sold 2.5 million which is really good but still half of what either G.O.W sold. With the price drop and all it will be good times for $ony.
    Edited by o_ci2007 at 30/09/09 @ 06:39

  • Lukree #164 3 years ago

    Wants a PS3 now!

  • mattigan #165 3 years ago

    These (Drake 1&2) will be the first games I buy if I ever get a PS3

  • man.the.king #166 3 years ago

    @Progguitarist

    "Zztop has played the demo and is now qualified to give a review score to a game in which he hasnt played ANY of the single player, a couple of the MP modes and ONE of the co op maps."

    Nah man, he's just being a 360 fanboy. See, he apparently doesn't think much of the PS3 platform games. See some of his gems below for details (#3 & 4 refer to Uncharted 1 & 2):

    Gem # 1
    Gem # 2
    Gem # 3
    Gem # 4

    Along with this article, that's 5 out of a total of 6 posts.

  • muscleblade #167 3 years ago

    So as good as Fable 2 then.

  • Rushy #168 3 years ago

    Congrats Naughty Dog!!

  • Chewy #169 3 years ago

    The first uncharted was great, really enjoyed it and I thought it would have to be very special to trump that. Looking at the game play and the mutliplayer vids sold it to me sometime ago. Well done naughty dog. I need to finish the final fight in Killzone 2 though!

    I'll resist playing the demo - be strong everyone! :-)

  • Fab4 #170 3 years ago

    Excellent! I've notified my private secretary to initiate a money transfer to my local gaming establishment with to respect to pre-ordering this :)

  • Tonka #171 3 years ago

    My next conslol will be a PS3

  • layleeloo #172 3 years ago

    They STILL should have left the MP alone. Its an SP game out and out and the MP is utter wank. I loved the first and im sure I will love this - but it is proof that manufactures today feel they HAVE to bolt on MP shite just to get a decent score. If this had no MP it would get the usual "marked down for lack of MP". Some games just do not need it!!!

  • peteb #173 3 years ago

    I dunno, I was quite sceptical of the MP, but its not too bad and I think I would play it with some mates. No splitscreen though, sadly. GF is getting me this for my birthday, yea!

  • andywilkie35 #174 3 years ago

    I'll get this when it drops below £15

  • KayJay #175 3 years ago

    I was playing the MP Demo last night and I quite enjoyed it. They need to sort a few things out but it seemed pretty solid.

  • Goodfella #176 3 years ago

    I'll get this when it drops below £15

    What kind of retarded comment is that?

  • HarryPalmer #177 3 years ago

    Fuck yeah!

  • stevencole7 #178 3 years ago

    I'm loving the beta so much! Can't wait for this sexy bitch to come out!!!

  • thedaveeyres #179 3 years ago

    Tardfest 2009

  • SL33PY #180 3 years ago

    I must have this game, I don't care who I have to kill, to get my hands on it!!

  • youhavenomail #181 3 years ago

    The original was always a classic in my eyes that suffered for not being able to carry the weight of Heavenly Sword's and Lair's high profile failures all on its own. It's great to see this franchise now getting all the headlines. Just like TV used to define Christmas, this will be perfect for the big day (and entire week) and I will endeavour to save it for then.

  • Merlinho #182 3 years ago

    I wasn't expecting to see that 10 score, I must be honest, I was thinking a 9 from the review, I actually did a little gasp, such was the surprise.

    I'd now better get going completing the games in my collection so I can justify getting Batman and this, as I'm shelling out for FIFA on Friday.

  • wowami #183 3 years ago

    " About halfway through, the game almost comes to a halt..... "
    " The 90 minutes of action that precede the narrative braking manoeuvre are a game in themselves"

    Is the reviewer really saying the SP game is approx only 3 hours long???

  • aidey6 #184 3 years ago

    Top of my most wanted, it was pretty much all year tbh, ND have usually done great work on Sony hardware, lets hope that other devs are able to make the PS3 look and sound as good as this in the future...

  • TruWari3r #185 3 years ago

    I actually skipped the entire review, don't want anything possibly spoiled because I knew it will be a good game but a 10

    YUMMY

    I bought my ps3 for mgs4 but my favorite game sofar has been uncharted.

  • Dogs-in-Hats #186 3 years ago

    It's a purchase!
    My Halo ODST disappointment is on EBAY

  • jaguarwong #187 3 years ago

    This is, what, the forth Uncharted 2 review I've read that barely mentions the gameplay at all.

    Anyone know where I can find more in depth information on how this thing plays and less eulogising over production values?

  • waggy79 #188 3 years ago

    Fanboys have really tarnished this generation of consoles for me. And I thought this medium was making progress...sigh...

  • irve77 #189 3 years ago

    10/10 .... wow .. how to get fanboys all excited .. a 9/10 would have been a point were not a single 360 fan could complain and bitch about how it doesn't deserve the score ... curse you Eurogamer for your fanboy baiting !!

    I'm guessing this will get a 9/10 possibly an 8/10 from gamecentral ... and perfect scores from all the PS3 website and a fair few of the multiformat sites . add another game to the list for when i buy a PS3... but think i'll start with the first.

    If only the PS3 had Mass Effect a game every gamer should own !
    Edited by irve77 at 30/09/09 @ 10:19

  • Britesparc Verified Creative, ITV #190 3 years ago

    I'm sure by now someone will have made an obligatory "Xbox Bias" joke...

    Seriously, though, this does look very good, and I'll have to add it to my list of "games I'd buy if I had a PS3" (currently: LBP, Noby Noby Boy).

  • Thalanos #191 3 years ago

    That 250GB PS3 bundle out in October is suddenly looking very appealing to me.

  • irve77 #192 3 years ago

    Oh yes .. i forgot about the 250gb bundle .. Hmmm , tempting !!!

  • El-Dev #193 3 years ago

    "untill they work on a 360 exclusive we will never know(buy em msoft please)"

    Why donnie? You have a PS3, you can play all the ND games. No need for them to switch owners.

  • Max_Powers #194 3 years ago

    Day one purchase indeed

  • SeesThroughAll #195 3 years ago

    @El-Dev: Why, it's like you've never seen his comments before! ;)

  • Johnsters #196 3 years ago

    Lots of Xbots on this PS3 review forum.
    Lots of MW fans comparing 2 games they haven't played (SP).
    Lots of negative people full stop.

    I liked the first game a lot, except for the end with the constant hoards of mutants.
    Will get this day one. Will get MW2 for the MP though providing it hasn't gone all Unreal Tournament :-)

  • dr_faulk #197 3 years ago

    After playing MGS4 in a single sitting, spending the whole time arguing with myself as to wether it was a good game or not, and whether I was enjoying it or not, I immediately played Drake's Fortune right afterward, which confirmed the answer to me immediately.

    I would have given the first Uncharted 10/10.

  • MiY4MOTO #198 3 years ago

    Btw: If it hasn't already been mentioned it will pay for you to play the first Uncharted prior to this as you will get 20,000 credits if you have a saved game on your system or 80,000 if you have a completed save game. I assume these buy you loadouts/equipment etc in UC2.

    DAMN! Bloody faulty PS3... I've not played the first on my current PS3, although I did put many hours in to it on my launch PS3. I wonder if it's going to be worth playing through Uncharted 1 again prior to this being released...

  • VicViper #199 3 years ago

    I'm a little worried about some enimes taking a bit too much damage (based on what Tom indicated happens towards the end), that was the reason the first Uncharted Soured on me but the stuff I've seen so far and the thought of more Uncharted style story telling and on screen acting etc make this very tempting.

  • Pac #200 3 years ago

    @donnie080208

    I honestly think it is just Naughty dog's talent rather than the PS3 performance that makes it look arguably better than anything on the Xbox 360 right now.

    I think the same about Turn 10 and Forza 3. Another must buy for me next month.

    Hopefully Uncharted 2 is going to be another title in the "must have" PS3 collection (MGS4, Valkyria Chronicles, Demons Souls and hopefully GT5 and FF XIII).

    It's hardly the most prolific console but it has some great exclusives at the moment.

  • Brianstorm #201 3 years ago

    does anyone no if there are additional credits for getting a platinum trophy in the first game on top of the save file and completed file credits?

  • El-Dev #202 3 years ago

    I dunno Donnie, Turn10 haven't been able to match nevermind better the visuals PD achieved with GT5P some time ago. SO I think ND are gonna be stickin with the PS3, I think they are owned by Sony as well.

    All your other points are personal opinion.

    I'd be more interested to see what Bungie and Epic could do with the PS3, not a lot would be my guess, they're just not up to the standard of ND.

  • Beek4257 #203 3 years ago

    Really struggling not to read the review as not to spoil anything. 10/10 yes!

    @El-Dev
    " I'd be more interested to see what Bungie and Epic could do with the PS3, not a lot would be my guess, they're just not up to the standard of ND."

    And that too, is just your personal opinion.
    Edited by Beek4257 at 30/09/09 @ 10:56

  • Petulant_Radish #204 3 years ago

    El-Dev you really are a smug little twat aren’t you!

    Great looking game, well deserved score, I’ll be looking forward to playing it.

  • Goodfella #205 3 years ago

    And that too, is just your personal opinion.

    I'd say it's more factual, at least as far as visuals are concerned. Bungie's efforts really aren't that good at all.

  • Petulant_Radish #206 3 years ago

    It’s not though isn’t it, you who is patently not a good fellow, it’s speculating on something that has not happened, which is therefore opinion, the giveaway was the part that said ‘guess’. Though obviously, for you, anything tainted by Microsoft would be sub par wouldn’t it?

  • Beek4257 #207 3 years ago

    @Goodfella
    Visually: do I think UC2 looks better than ODST? Well, yeah.
    As for EPIC: they made UE3. Those guys can code (graphics), obviously.
    Bungie and Epic have both made several critically acclaimed games, so as to them not being "up to ND's standard" is - in my personal opinion - a personal opinion.
    Edited by Beek4257 at 30/09/09 @ 11:19

  • Goodfella #208 3 years ago

    Patently?

    Did you mean blatently?

    It's not speculation though is it. It's a fact that Bungies visual efforts are not on a par with Naughty Dogs.

  • Pac #209 3 years ago

    @trebell

    Don't hold back on Demons Souls probably one of the best games I have ever played and I do not say that lightly.

  • Hantheman #210 3 years ago

    Crap, now I want a PS3.

  • Beek4257 #211 3 years ago

    @Goodfella
    I said El-Dev's statement ("I'd be more interested to see what Bungie and Epic could do with the PS3, not a lot would be my guess, they're just not up to the standard of ND.";) was personal opinion.
    You picking out the part "Bungie" and applying it to graphical prowess doesn't make it "more factual".

  • Petulant_Radish #212 3 years ago

    No, I meant patently, I suggest you do a little research into the English language before you make assertions like that.

    And yes, their efforts so far have not been up to the standard of Uncharted 2, which is yet to be released. But that is not what was being called fact was it? It was this:

    I'd be more interested to see what Bungie and Epic could do with the PS3, not a lot would be my guess, they're just not up to the standard of ND.

    Which is speculation, and therefore opinion.

    Hmm, why won;t my italics close, naughty little font!
    Edited by Petulant_Radish at 30/09/09 @ 11:29

  • Goodfella #213 3 years ago

    The graphical part of my statement is factual though.

    My OPINION is that they are not up to the job either. Bungie and the Halo license just don't impress me on any level.

  • Goodfella #214 3 years ago

    @Petulant Radish

    It was a genuine query of the word patently, not a criticism. Jesus.

  • muscleblade #215 3 years ago

    "I'd be more interested to see what Bungie and Epic could do with the PS3, not a lot would be my guess, they're just not up to the standard of ND. "

    LOL. Fanboism at its worst.

  • Beek4257 #216 3 years ago

    @Goodfella:""The graphical part of my statement is factual though."

    Your initial comment was in relation to El-Dev's previous statement (see #253) being more factual, not (a part of) your own.
    Thanks for agreeing with me.
    Edited by Beek4257 at 30/09/09 @ 11:46

  • silent_snake #217 3 years ago

    Off topic: When will people actually stop thinking about the scores and think more about the game itself?
    This is the problem I have with reviews because I don't consider that there should be a score system, rather they should put something like a final verdict where they put they final thoughts if this or that game is worth purchasing. But mostly I think the review itself should be enough if it's written competently and thoroughly. This way people will actually read the reviews with understanding and put more brain cells into it rather than being a "score zombie" and put a whole gaming experience such as Uncharted in some number and than "discuss" about the score rather than the game itself.

  • comedian #218 3 years ago

    That was a brilliant review and as such I'm really looking forward to this.

    Batman on the 360 and Uncharted 2 on the ps3, if only I had the mental capacity to play them both at the same time.
    Edited by comedian at 30/09/09 @ 12:11

  • Pac #219 3 years ago

    I have no problem with scores. And I like nothing better than to see a 10 at the end of a review from a respected games site/magazine such as EG or Edge. But people need to realise its just an opinion, just like every other statement made in the review. Also reviews scores are static in time, place and context. There are probably loads of games that I would have personally awarded a ten over the last 20 years or so but as gameplay, graphics and production values have increased they would never get a 10 now.

    I think we should just appreciate that games are (IMO) getting better and that if a game is awarded a 10 it is not necessarily perfect but when compared to other games around it is at the top of its field.

  • Petulant_Radish #220 3 years ago

    Oh ok, it means pretty much the same as blatantly, and my name’s not Jesus!

  • ps3owner #221 3 years ago

    so metacritic takes all reviews into account. I think EG could manipulate the score... particularly if they are represented several times on there, like they are right now. (3 times)

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/uncharted2amongthieves
    ]http://www.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    interesting.

  • xentar #222 3 years ago

    @ps3owner - Eurogamer network members are working independently on reviews, the scores are not the same from all the national outlets. And Eurogamer network doesnt strike me as manipulating bitch anyway. This is not The Official Xbox or PlayStation magazine and it is really easy to lose respect and credibility. Pushing one game to the top without real reasoning behind it would not be worth the loss of face imho

  • shen #223 3 years ago

    @silent_snake
    I dunno, this really read like a 9.5 at best to me, and then he gives it 10.

  • shotgun44 #224 3 years ago

    97 out of 22 different reviews is pretty fucking impressive! Do want.

  • Accordi0n #225 3 years ago

    Lost World? did they just spoil the ending?

  • kangarootoo #226 3 years ago

    This thread is a bit grumpy isn't it?

    Why so serious?

  • Beano #227 3 years ago

    "Don't hold back on Demons Souls probably one of the best games I have ever played and I do not say that lightly. "

    I agree completely - it's a must-buy!

    A fantastic game which is unfortunately bound to be overlooked by most PS3 owners.

  • eiocreative #228 3 years ago

    God it's weird reading comments of people who's only claim to fame is they own the console this game was created for. How on earth do you gain Kudos for that? You didn't create the PS3 and you didn't create the game so for gods sake quit with the childish smugness!

    Press that red - all you want. Shame features like that make it to sites like this because the frenzied clicking of a million retards on every negative comment only serves to show why the game industry is never taken seriously!

  • Iain815 #229 3 years ago

    This may have tempted me to buy a PS3, finally. Nice one ND!

  • beastmaster #230 3 years ago

    This does look incredible and a day 1 purchase. I get the feeling that this will not be the only 10 that EG will be giving out before the end of the year. Good times!

  • muscleblade #231 3 years ago

    " There's no doubt that it's one of the top three games for the PS3, and one of the five best games of this year"

    This is probably true. A great PS3 game, no doubt.

  • Edz72 #232 3 years ago

    Anybody interested in Demon Souls, I like others can highly recommend it, amazing game :D

    I have 100% the Asian version, sold it and have ordered the US deluxe version, it's that good...

    BTW: Never brought a deluxe version of any game before.

  • SuperNashwan #233 3 years ago

    @eiocreative, spot on mate, reminds me of the Marcus Brigstocke joke at this years Fringe;

    "To the people who've got iPhones: you just bought one, you didn't invent it!"

  • duttyri #234 3 years ago

    Rrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!AAAAAAaaaAAAAaaaa!!!!!!!GGGGGgggggggGeeeeeeeeeEEEEEeEeEEEEE - a 10 a fucking 10 where are your offices so i can firebomb you, you jumped up moneyhatted toff cunts.

    Although the graphics are nice :)

  • Beek4257 #235 3 years ago

    @ps3owner

    About Metascores: The METASCORE is considered a weighted average because we assign more significance, or weight, to some critics and publications than we do to others, based on the overall stature and quality of those critics and publications.

    Maybe EG Portugal's and/or Spain's score is assigned less "weight" then EG.net. I wouldn't know for sure though. Check this article on Metacritic by EDGE.

  • ps3owner #236 3 years ago

    thanks beek for the link, very good read.

  • JDub #237 3 years ago

    Alrighty! First day purchase/pre-order then... :D

    Who's gonna get my order? Anyone breaking the £36 barrier for this?
    I usually wouldn't be so cheap, but I'm way behind with my games at the moment. Also need to get B:AA, PES (maaybe) and MW2. Probably forgot something there as well...

    /rubs hands

  • El-Dev #238 3 years ago

    @Petulant-Radish, no need for name calling.
    Donnie reckons ND could surpass UC2 graphically if they did it on the 360. I don't think they could as two of the best game developers about can't do it, namely Bungie and Epic. You can disagree with my point if you want but please bring evidence with you.

    Muscleblade I hope you see the irony in you calling anyone a fanboy.

  • welshben23 #239 3 years ago

    Some of the comments on this thread make me feel ashamed I own a Xbox 360, I really hope some of you are being sarcastic or trying to be funny and failing miserably. This game looks fantastic and the review is great. This will be one of the first few games I pick up when I get a PS3. When not if.

  • ronuds #240 3 years ago

    Arguing over which company is capable of producing better visuals? Halo and UC2 are very different games, which are capable of very different things. If you'd want to compare which company could produce better visuals, they'd have to both make the same game on the same console. Otherwise, it's the most idiotic fucking conversation EG has ever been host to.

    You guys just have nothing to talk about anymore it seems.

  • FladgeMangle #241 3 years ago

    With this new engine and the Killzone one "out there" so to speak, I wonder if we'll finally begin to see the end of the poorer PS3 version syndrome? [looks accusingly at GTA 4, Ghostbusters, Bayonetta and countless other multi-format games].

    And before you mark me down, it's just the sad facts. Plus I'm a happy PS3 owner. If you really want to mark me down, do it because I started a sentence with the word "and".

  • Penguinzoot #242 3 years ago

    Enjoyable review. Looking forward to playing this immensely.

  • TRUTH #243 3 years ago

    Demons Souls - is an acquired taste...dam frustrating and looks aged now. Good rpg/action but has a few major faults that makes the game to frustrating to play.

  • El-Dev #244 3 years ago

    Ah, the "high sales theory equals quality" response.

    You must love NSYNC donnie.

  • RedSparrows #245 3 years ago

    El-Dev, did you really say that moronic thing up there? Really? Really?

    Faboys must die, srsly.

  • Beek4257 #246 3 years ago

    I didn't think El-Dev's comment was moronic, though you might think I am, because of the question I'm about to ask:
    How is UC2 graphically better than Gears 2 (I'm not being ironic, sarcastic or whatever)?
    Alliasing, framerate, better textures, etc.?

    For the record: I know this means nothing gameplay-wise and personally I find UC2 "prettier" for lack of a better term, but that's just because I like ruins and sweaters better than alien intestines and space-marine gear. I love Gears and will love UC2 as soon as I get to actually play it, btw. I would usually leave it up to Digital Foundry to decide such things, but now I'm curious.

  • Pac #247 3 years ago

    @TRUTH

    Frustrating, possibly but rewarding absolutely. It's the pleasure-pain principle in full effect.

    I agree for some the balance is just not right.

    I wonder if they have watered it down any for the US release?

  • Beek4257 #248 3 years ago

    Demon Souls just seemed to scream 'YOU SUCK!!!' in my face all the time. Which is kinda hard to swallow for someone who has playing videogames for over 25 years and used to be all kinds of awesome for the first decade ...

  • Marshall2008 #249 3 years ago

    First one was a bit naff but I have this one pre ordered. Downloading the demo now

  • zztopp #250 3 years ago

    @man.the.king

    Nah man, he's just being a 360 fanboy. See, he apparently doesn't think much of the PS3 platform games. See some of his gems below for details (#3 & 4 refer to Uncharted 1 & 2):

    I dont know about you but I am quite wary of these impulsive 10/10s (GTA4, Halo3, etc) and and thus rely on my own impressions. And from my impressions of the demo this ain't a 10/10 game. MP is fun but the modes, like Uncharted as a whole, has a feel of been there done that.

    I also can't see how the graphics are the 'best evah!'. The ice and the temple stages look positively underwhelming with mediocre texture work and art, possessing none of the incredible architecture and texture detail of Gears2. Maybe the 1player mode of Uncharted 2 looks much much better but for now the Digital Foundry fanboy-like article looks like a load of hype and little substance.

  • PeacockDreams #251 3 years ago

    I literally cannot wait for this to be released, so much so that everytime I say something I immediatley follow it up by clicking my fingers in a 'Z' formation, like a fat african american woman would, followed up by the phrase "hmmmmmhmmm" or "go girlfriend"
    Edited by PeacockDreams at 30/09/09 @ 19:06

  • Les #252 3 years ago

    Didn't really need a review to get this game eventually as the first game was one of the best games ever IMO. Its mix of great gameplay and excellently executed silly story formed a perfect video game symbiosis.

    But I browsed through it anyway and I'm glad that it's not just a "wow, lot's of shiny pixels and online: 10/10"-review though it gets close. This is very likely to be my game of 2010 as there's no way I'm going to get around playing it in the coming 3 months...

    I stand by my point that multiplayer is ill suited for a game like this and the effort invested in it could have been used on something more useful and original. It's a terrible shame that every developer nowadays seems to feel the need to do what everyone else does. It seems like something that's just there as an extra feature to put on the box and with gamers getting older, the longevity of games becomes less and less relevant.

  • Rens11 #253 3 years ago

    well suck me sideways!!! can't wait to play it

  • Vin #254 3 years ago

    Some sad, scared little manchildren in this thread.

  • VandelayIndustries #255 3 years ago

    les: "I stand by my point that multiplayer is ill suited for a game like this and the effort invested in it could have been used on something more useful and original."

    How is it ill suited? It seems as natrual to this game as it does on Gears, Halo, Killzone or CoD. If you want an example of 'tacked on' multi-player look no further than the Riddick game.

  • Les #256 3 years ago

    "How is it ill suited? It seems as natrual to this game as it does on Gears, Halo, Killzone or CoD."

    From a story perspective multiplayer is of course pretty much always ridiculous but in Gears, Halo, Killzone and CoD you play a generic character that's basically there to kill things. In Uncharted you're a treasure hunter who happens to cross the path of annoying criminals that (or should it be who, always confuses me) are out to kill you and you're 'just' defending yourself. Death match is a poor match in the latter case IMO.

  • Edz72 #257 3 years ago

    @Les

    As much as I agree with your comments regarding the MP in UC2, I have to say imo it's actually a breath of fresh air to have a MP that doesn't revolve soley on war/ big guns and macho men on steriods :)

    As long as it hasn't affected the SP I have no problems with MP being added, but personally I will always buy a game for single player first.

  • man.the.king #258 3 years ago

    @zztop

    Well, there's plenty of evidence in your posts to indicate in which direction your chosen "god" lies, so I'm not going to re-iterate myself.

    Except for this:

    your post in the EG "Ghostbusters PS3 patch..." article says:
    "I like DF's tech articles. Also one can't accuse them of being biased."

    Now, since DF praise a non-360 exclusive, you say "the Digital Foundry fanboy-like article looks like a load of hype and little substance".
    Edited by man.the.king at 30/09/09 @ 21:10

  • Slipstream #259 3 years ago

    Been playing the demo like crazy! What can I say that hasn't been said already, really cannot wait to get my hands on this!

  • nedgip #260 3 years ago

    oh god im going to have to get a ps3 now!

  • Goodfella #261 3 years ago

    @man.the.king

    Hehe, nice one. Let's see you squirm your way out of that one, zztopp.

    As for judging Uncharted 2 based solely on a demo of a June build of just the multiplayer portion. Ignorant to say the least.

  • ebony69 #262 3 years ago

    So long as its shed loads better than the first one it should be good.
    First one = lara without the moves, without the adventure and without the puzzles.

    Not a lara fan at all but hype really gets me me nerves and how U1 managed to out-do the last TR is such a hype induced shame.

  • xentar #263 3 years ago

    finally got to play the MP beta...
    "silence"
    "more silence"

    yep, i am speechless
    dont like FPS much but this is so much fun
    cant wait for the full version

  • M_of_the_sys #264 3 years ago

    "yep, i am speechless
    dont like FPS much but this is so much fun
    cant wait for the full version"

    Just as well it's a TPS then.

  • butler` #265 3 years ago

    FINALLY a reason dig my ps3 out

  • butler` #266 3 years ago

    other than demon's souls ofc but that don't count it's not out in the uk!

  • kungfubob #267 3 years ago

    Played the multiplayer for a few hours yesterday and i have to say i really enjoyed it. Good fun all round i say and its on my list.

  • Bilbo_bobbins #268 3 years ago

    The demo is unbelievable and would keep you entertained for months, let alone the full version. I can't wait.

  • FortysixterUK #269 3 years ago

    Blimey...and I loved the first one......bollox...another forty notes gone.....

  • VMerken #270 3 years ago

    This was a definite buy for me anyway, what with loving the first game to bits and being swept away by the trailer. Good times are ahead and blimey, colour me flabbergasted; did Eurogamer just give a 10 to a PS3 game? A PS3 exclusive game? Eh.

  • ronuds #271 3 years ago

    @Bullet_Dodger

    Are you for real? Unless you're pre-teen, I hope not.

  • TRUTH #272 3 years ago

    Don't bother with Demon's Soul if you don't have loads of patients, don't enjoy long repeating frustration (having to repeat and repeat the same thing over again, again and again due to being killed with one or two hits), graphics are looking dated...it is a good game, but the frustration is epic.

  • M_of_the_sys #273 3 years ago

    "Don't bother with Demon's Soul if you don't have loads of patients

    A game only for doctors then?

  • des #274 3 years ago

    Yay another overhyped dribble game for manbabies to play...
    No wonder that game industry is going down...

  • MeBrains #275 3 years ago

    played it much then deslol?

  • Zoink #276 3 years ago

    Couldn't resist - ordered the Game special ed. Just hope the gold weapons dont make me a target!

  • layleeloo #277 3 years ago

    hahahaha. Have you seen some of the comments about purchase timing? "Day one purchase" and the like?

    So, if it only got 8/10 or 9/10 you would have waited a bit but now it has 10 you are getting it on "day one"?

    Like any major game, you know you want it or you dont, regardless of scores so why would the score determine when you get it? Uncharted was brilliant, this will be (even with the toss MP mode). I can not wait

  • Dismiss #278 3 years ago

    My PS3 is getting pretty busy these days. Just started playing Trine, waiting for Sigma 2 to arrive, already pre-ordered Demon Souls Limited, Uncharted 2 and the new Ratchet. Brutal Legend I think I'll get for the 360, regardless. Just feel safer buying multiformat stuff on Xbox. By the time I finish playing all these games, they'll be out as Platinum or heavily discounted. Story of my life. Have to squeeze a bit of Aion and Champions Online in there too, but those are MMOs, they can wait.

  • Zero Beat #279 3 years ago

    Sequel to my favourite game of the generation. :)

  • Rens11 #280 3 years ago

    have naughty dog ever made a bad game? first the excellent ps1 crash bandicoots then jak n daxters and now uncharted they deserve so much credit for their work!
    Edited by Rens11 at 06/10/09 @ 23:13

  • 3william56 #281 3 years ago

    O_O

    First pre-order I've ever made (or more specifically, someone made for me for my birthday). There goes the girlfriend's bathroom renovation.

  • Jamaicangmr #282 3 years ago

    A 10? Wow! this was unexpected from eurogamer.net. You know Uncharted 2 being a PS3 Exclusive and all. Nice to see a great game gets a greats score and review just because it's a great game no strings.
    Edited by Jamaicangmr at 06/10/09 @ 08:37

  • el_pollo_diablo #283 3 years ago

    @3william56

    is that a euphemism for some sort of vaginal tightening procedure?

  • charliemouse #284 3 years ago

    @Rens11

    Yes, Way of the Warrior on 3DO was a pretty awful Mortal Kombat clone. I still have it somewehre in my mum's loft (and that's certainly not a euphemism).

  • Rens11 #285 3 years ago

    @charliemouse never heard of that before! bet its worth quite a bit now!

  • Preident_Obama #286 3 years ago

    TREY


    4


    LIFE


    P.S. The White House has a Trey in every room. One of my aids had an Xbox Magazine in her bag last week. I had her and her family sent to Guantanamo Bay for life.

  • fjharps #287 3 years ago

    Just incredible been playing this since yesterday and all I can say its great love it. Plays much like the first one though its very similar but for me that is a good thing.
    Very lucky that where i live the shops dont' wait till release day to sell the game and i was shocked to find it on the shop for sale yesterday. Once again great game loving it so far...
    Edited by fjharps at 10/10/09 @ 14:00

  • Geordiemp #288 3 years ago

    Why compare halo and UC2 ?

    Halo3 is good LAN co-op game (sony why cant you do LAN games on PS3, no lag is nice). I buiy all coop games with LAN support on Xbox (Cod5, Res 5).

    But Ps3 exclusives that use SPE well are a step above in graphics, like Ratchet, UC2 and UC, MGS4. Yet to see a Xbox game in same league except maybe Assasins Creed...

    Oh and any unreal engine bump map game with a few on screen characters looks crap on all consoles and can spot the shiny look a mile off = looking at you gears...hopefully newer game engines will kill off unreal...
    Edited by Geordiemp at 11/10/09 @ 10:39

  • Geordiemp #289 3 years ago

    Gears 2, the worst graphics and bitmap bump flat grapics in existance, the grey scale hides the flatness of Unreal engine. If you imagine picture cut out of say marcus from a magazine and stick it on the screen looking flat, thats what unreal does. Geeat textures, flat shiny graphics. Thats why they keep one colour to hide the low poly count.

    God, at leats compare UC2 to something decent like Assasins creed or Res 5. I have both Ps3 and Xbox, and gears is the worst graphics and laughable annimation I have seen (annimation is also graphics, laugh at how they move LOL).

    Please epic, no more unreal games and lets hope some better engines come along than the low Poly count bump map shiny rubbish. To the Xbot fanboys, use a decent game to compare against, gears is so embarrasing.
    Edited by Geordiemp at 12/10/09 @ 15:51

  • layleeloo #290 3 years ago

    I am playing it right now - and have to say, its bloomin amazing. even the first 5 minutes is heart stopping. The sound through 5.1 is unbelievable, and the graphics have to be the best seen in any console game bar none. Its superb!

  • muscleblade #291 3 years ago

    @Geordiemp

    Whats your gamertag then? Dont have one? Predictable. Asassins Creed looks great on the 360. On the PS3 - not so much.

  • Geordiemp #292 3 years ago

    @musclebale Which one, Ps3 or 360 ?

    GradedGeordiemp for 360 and geordie007 for Ps3 )hard to remember as have 2 gold and 2 PSN acounts as me and son like COOP gaming). Also have a Wii, so I can categorically say I am no fanboy and wish all others could have all consoles, you will see things differently....Might sell my wii actually...

    Both consoles are good, both have there faults. Xbox has LAN (I have 2 xboxes) and better for LAG free coop and some multiplat when devs are not talented. Yes I have 4 copies of Gears and the graphics do suck (1080 P large plasma). Finished Gears1 got bored with Gears2 and the flat graphics, forgive Batman for using UEIII. Best Coop game Resistance 2, followed by Halo 3 / COD WOW.

    However, PS3 exclusives have much better graphics. Will get UC2 tomorrow.

    Edited by Geordiemp at 15/10/09 @ 21:32

  • Phily50 #293 3 years ago

    First ps3 10, and rightly so by all accounts. Day one purchase for me.

  • ChadSexington #294 3 years ago

    Just finished it tonight (it arrived yesterday from ShopTo), took about nine-and-a-half hours. Brilliant game.

  • Geordiemp #295 3 years ago

    How long is the coop sections of the game anyone ?

    (do I need 2 copies ?)

  • zztopp #296 3 years ago

    @Geordiemp

    If these graphics look flat and crap to you, then somethings wrong with your eyes:

    [link url=http://www.gametrailers.com/video/developer-diary-gears-of-war/41551
    ]http://www.gametrailers.com/video/develo...[/link]

    To me, many scenes in Gears2 look close to CGI-quality, with unsurpassed textures.

  • Geordiemp #297 3 years ago

    @zztop, yes they do look great, Id like to play that version, dont have it on my 2 360 copies LOL. Thats my problem with Gears, lots of bullshots and CGI and made to look good in promotional stuff, just like you copied..The reality is more sobering, when I usd to play it, looked like this

    [link url=http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-gears-of-war/53088
    ]http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-0...[/link]

    Laughable animations, slow, cumbersome, how many enemies on screen ? Yawn..Actuallu, Gears 1 moved a bit better (finished that one)

    But, (xbox versionof Res 5 is better) :

    [link url=http://www.gametrailers.com/video/mercs-mode-resident-evil/46627
    ]http://www.gametrailers.com/video/mercs-...[/link]

    Can you not see the differences in nromal gameplay. Epic are the masters of promotion....
    Edited by Geordiemp at 17/10/09 @ 13:16

  • zztopp #298 3 years ago

    @Geordiemp.

    Every clip in the link I posted is ingame. If you dont recognize that then either you don't own Gears2 or haven't played it. And Gears2 moves a huge number of enemies/objects onscreen...thats one of its prime improvements over Gears1. Your comments indicate that you haven't played the game and are just slinging comments, in which case this discussion is moot.

  • septimus #299 3 years ago

    Gears2 looks great in places... but it is nothing compared to this. As mentioned, on 360, Resi 5 beats it also.
    Edited by septimus at 17/10/09 @ 18:19

  • Geordiemp #300 3 years ago

    Check out GradedGeordiemp, yes I do, I have 2.

    Yes, your link of promotional stuff is in game stuff, just not the Xbox 360 one.

    Anyway, I like Xbox its better for system link and games Halo3 and crackdown are geat co-op, just dont get gears.

  • DAN.E.B #301 3 years ago

    great graphics and sound and the set pieces are brilliant, really enjoying it
    the only thing that baffles me is on level 16 great stage until something turns up thats totally out of place!
    i wont say too much but WTF where they thinking?
    other than that im really enjoying it so far.

  • Mercatoria #302 3 years ago

    finished it. 8/10 I'd say. Did seem to repeat some of the stuff from the first game. Replacing zombies with some other madness. Over all still a very good game

  • VMerken #303 3 years ago

    Bought it friday, finished it saturday. Best Eurogamer 10/10 I've played so far. For me, it's a 9/10 as the game is a bit too short for my tastes. Finished Normal in about 8 hours, expected/hoped for 12 hours. Then again, adding 4 extra hours of blockbuster action of this calibre would probably cost a ton of money - I can understand Naughty Dog's decision to keep it short, but very sweet.

    On a negative note, game play was marred as my non-rumble SIXAXIS bugs out after a few Continues, no longer allowing me to enter Sniper mode or lob grenades (I can still throw'em, but either it's with a massive delay, or Nathan throws all his grenades at once, unannounced, in quick succession - not fun while you're trying to sneak). :(

    I'm going to buy a Dualshock 3 (it was due anyway) and see if the above was just a controller issue. Really hope so, because it's the only thing keeping me back from tackling the Hard and Crushing difficulties.
    Edited by VMerken at 18/10/09 @ 22:21