Resistance: Fall of Man Review

By Kristan Reed Published 22 March, 2007

Tripped up by his own lack of ambition, no doubt.

Version tested: PlayStation 3

Down the years, Insomniac's games have always had the same effect on me. Initially they've always felt quite underwhelming. Generic, even. But the numerous Ratchet & Clank games all had that crucial ability to get their claws into you via great level design and an array of completely ludicrous weapons. Far from being by-the-numbers platform romps, they had absolutely wonderful combat where your strategy was defined by your choice of weaponry; which ones you chose to upgrade and how you chose to use them. Over the course of the series, I'd go as far as saying they were among the most consistently entertaining games of the past five years.

With this in mind, I almost expected to Resistance to be similarly slow-burning and not to be the easiest game to appreciate from the outset.

Well, I was half right.

Indeed, Resistance isn't the easiest game to get into. By all accounts it really does adhere to every lazy description you might have read about it. It really does - sigh - feel like Call of Duty with aliens. Stupid spiny reptilian creatures with sharp teeth, flinty eyes and red pipes sticking out of their coolant garb. 'Stupid' in that they shuffle obligingly from side to side, fire in a scattershot fashion and display anything but 'next generation' intelligence, whatever the hell that's supposed to translate into.

Meet my friend, whatshisname

'Resistance: Fall of Man' Screenshot 1

And just like any of the gazillion 'cinematic' WW2 games produced over the years, the game populates the scene with dozens of anonymous squad-mates that charge into battle, only to get mown down and airbrushed from the scenery in a matter of seconds. It's supposed to add that essential chaotic intensity of battle, but you won't care when the 400th hapless squaddie gets raked with Chimeran fire. You've seen it all before. You know how this plays out.

For the first hour or so, it's hard to tell whether Resistance does anything different whatsoever. For all the world, it's yet another linear, set-piece driven first-person shooter, with corridors to funnel you down very prescribed routes, populated with manageable clusters of identical enemies who display depressingly little flair in their combat tactics beyond 'duck, shoot, peek out, shoot, lob grenade, repeat' until death. No flanking, no teamwork, no alarms, no surprises.

The main surprise that hits you early on is how unforgiving the first level is. With no health packs lying around, and good old fashioned health that - gasp - doesn't recharge, you're tasked with guiding Nathan Hale to safety with only a sharp aim and careful avoidance of enemy fire. No cheating recharging health or overly forgiving checkpointing here, sir. The first few levels remind you what shooters used to be like before publishers got fed up with us whining about games being too tough and implemented all of the above. And then, of course, having toughened you up with some brutal reality, Insomniac caves and shoehorns a means of giving you regenerating health anyway.

Wanted: recharging enthusiasm

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At a stroke, Resistance reverts to FPS type, where little actual combat skill is required to blitz through the game in about 10 or 12 hours on normal. Like every shooter from Halo onwards, it simply reduces the task at hand to observing when you're about to lose a unit of health and making sure you duck back into cover whenever it's looking a bit dicey. In between, you're given the freedom to wander into the open, fire a few well-placed pot-shots and dive back to get your health back. It solves the frustration of having to be genuinely good at the game, but means the game - like most shooters these days - lacks tension almost throughout.

And even when things are hanging on a slender thread and you're skipping between cover points with one unit of health left, you can generally rely on discarded health packs all over the battlefield. All that's required of you is to diligently backtrack, gather them up and resume the battle fully replenished. Like so many regulation, unambitious shooters, at no stage will the enemy consider chasing you down as you frantically retreat. They just sit waiting at their spawn point, ducking and firing, ducking and firing. If we hadn't seen this sort of braindead enemy AI behaviour about eight thousand times before, we might be more pumped about it. Does it matter that this is on a PS3? Well, yes. It's a machine that's inordinately more powerful, therefore ought to be capable of throwing a few surprises at us. Should we let the game off because it's a first generation PS3 title? A little, but not much. As we said before, Insomniac is capable of making games with excellent combat and imaginative weaponry in them. That's the very least we'd expect from Ted Price and his team for a flagship first party release. A lot of what we're complaining about, in terms of the core gameplay, would have been an issue three years ago.

Just a little more environmental imagination would have made a lot of difference too, but we're talking about a game where the most you can expect is that your cover points will get blown apart. No matter how rickety a building looks, or how temporary a particular shelter might look, you could fire a shell from a tank and not even make a dent. Likewise, when all hell is breaking loose and you're standing in a building that's barely upright, how ridiculous to see that you're entirely safe from an onslaught of rocket fire if you just duck down behind a rickety brick wall. "Ground breaking" would actually be quite nice in this case. It might force us, and our enemies, to be a little more dynamic in the way we play. Instead, what we're faced with is the same old show, playing to the same old rules. For some that might be enough, and in most senses Resistance is no worse an offender than any other number of games of this ilk, but wherever you look it conforms to the standard unreality that we're all used to.

The Price of being first

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So, the only sliver of hope was that Insomniac could inject some sense of novelty and creativity in how it uses its weapons. Certainly, Ted Price's presentations of the game prior to its launch elsewhere in the world last year focused heavily on things like the hedgehog grenade that spits out individual spines. By pausing the game and panning around the environment, he showed just how cool the effect was, with each spine shooting out at a precise angle and velocity and capable of inflicting their victims with a certain amount of damage depending on where they hit.

Such technical demonstrations looked cool, no question, but the practical difference between this grenade and any other grenade used in an FPS is almost zero. It goes off. You must get out of the way somehow. If you don't, it will dish out a lot of damage. In real-life gameplay terms nothing whatsoever changes.

Other weapons, like the Bullseye, do add something to the gameplay, but it's marketing spin gone mad to suggest that it adds more than an increment of an increment. Being able to 'tag' someone and duck around a corner and giggle as your bullets get drawn to your hapless victim is an undeniably cool moment, but it's a novelty that wears off pretty quickly (besides, you soon realise that it's just as effective to pick them off as you normally would, which is kind of where such innovations fade into the background).

Augers well for innovation

Probably the one truly innovative weapon is the Auger, which allows the recipient to shoot through walls, with a delayed burst of white energy emerging from any solid barrier. But, again, it's pretty easy to avoid, and in terms of actually killing your enemy, you're often better off getting a proper bead on them. Gamers don't need weapons that look cool, as such, and the rather standard load-out (shotgun, sniper rifle, rocket launcher, and various rapid-fire guns) demonstrates that. It's far more important to give players enemies that are reactive, dynamic and intelligent. That's, ultimately, where Resistance fails, without wishing to labour the point to death.

'Resistance: Fall of Man' Screenshot 4

And having done little to make the core shooting gameplay in any way different to any number of games that have gone before, it's perhaps even more gutting to see the title fail to shine as a next generation spectacle. As a first party title, at least part of its job is to act as a technical showcase for the PlayStation 3. The fact that the results are so strangely unambitious makes it even harder to care about Nathan Hale's Chimeran fightback. Right from the start, the game world is bordering on sterile, feeling like yet another indestructible set that never allows you to carve a different path through, or even vaguely interact with on any meaningful level. Sure, the environmental geometry is well up to scratch, and Insomniac has managed to tick most of the boxes that give it the initial ambience of being an impressive spectacle, but you don't have to look very hard before it all feels decidedly underwhelming.

Mostly, it's just like any other bombed out WW2 set, and just as restrictive in how you're allowed to navigate your way through it. It's yet another instance of 'look but don't touch', and never once even gives the hint that you can cut loose and do things your own way. It's just move on, clear out, move on through numerous short sections before the narrative curve fades to a blur. In a way that's a fitting visual cue, because, played end to end, the game tries to string together a coherent narrative, but fails to effectively link together the action in a credible sense. Missions often end suddenly, with no real sense of having concluded your efforts. The stylish cut-scenes do, admittedly, lend a polished reward to your efforts, but it doesn't really make up for the harsh edits. Meanwhile, no matter what goes on, Hale remains the dead-eyed mute throughout, as if adhering to some unwritten FPS law. After Insomniac's personality-laden past, Resistance is the polar opposite, and you have no real affection for him as a result.

A weekend in the cities

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It makes a pleasant change to be playing in places like York, Grimsby, Manchester, Nottingham and eventually London, but even if you're familiar with such places, for most of the game you could be fighting anywhere. The hilarity of hitting London and seeing three red telephone boxes standing in a line (apparently in a side room of an indoor market of all places) just adds to the cut and paste feeling of some of the sets. And did they even have those 'keep left' traffic bollards in 1951? (And while we're on this, why is the radio communication so sophisticated? In 2007 I can't even use my mobile phone on the underground trains, so how, exactly, is Hale able to get updates when he's deep underground?) There was clearly so much potential in this 'what if?' scenario, but even by the end we don't really fully get a picture of the Chimeran motivations, or why it all started, or anything that leaves you with any resolution. By boiling the whole episode down to good versus evil mutants, there's not even the scant consolation of a great storyline to rake over at the conclusion.

All the game can offer the player at the end is the chance to play through again and unlock some new weapons. If we're honest, playing it through once was enough of a slog (and only out of duty) - the desire to run through a tired, derivative cookie cutter FPS like this would have to come with a cash prize attached to it to make us do it again. And the discovery of concept art as a reward for unlocking the various skill points felt like the ultimate slap in the mush. Are they trying to upset us?

Of course, many would point to the lure of the co-op or competitive multiplayer. Well, for one thing, the potential lure of co-op is dampened by the fact that it's offline split-screen only, while the other modes are competitive only. Upon entering the online menu for the first time, the update patch takes fully 15 minutes to download and apply itself - and the promise of 40-player online relies on extensive waiting around and other players' patience. Most matches during the review phase were limited to 16-player only, which evidently makes it difficult to comment on the mayhem of mass deathmatch madness.

Balancing act

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But as many have noted, the game's best weapons are the real star of the online game, and make it a lot easier to tolerate the utter blandness of some of the maps. The balanced nature of the weaponry makes it an intriguing battle on some levels, with weapons like the Auger making it a real cat and mouse affair - especially with someone, say, capable of rebounding Hailstorm fire with skill. The addition of thousands of European gamers on the servers won't hurt the game's appeal in the initial launch period, but it's hard to say whether that will last long. Certainly, the US servers still had plenty of games up and running even at unfavourable times of day, which is a good sign.

That said, in the cut and thrust world of online shooters, Resistance ranks well below some of the established big hitters out there. The lack of co-op, in particular, is a major oversight. Time will tell if it's significant, but given how popular the co-op online modes of Gears of War, GRAW 2 and Rainbow Six: Vegas have been, you can't help but feel that gamers have a basic requirement for collaborative online play these days. Another black mark, then.

The overall disappointment that comes from playing Resistance is troubling. For years, Insomniac has carved itself an impressive reputation, and had a golden opportunity to throw its creativity at a genre which has been stuck in its ways for far too long. That it merely aped almost all of the things wrong with this creatively moribund genre is alarming. That's not to say that it's a bad game at all, because in most senses Resistance bears a solid resemblance to a lot of very successful shooters of the last few years. But to simply come up with a game on a new platform that completely stands still feels like a huge disappointment from a studio that's more than capable of doing thing differently to everyone else. Put bluntly, the combat and AI is merely average, the visuals don't really wow, and the much-vaunted weaponry makes little difference to how it plays. To say we're underwhelmed is the understatement of the year.

6 / 10

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About Kristan Reed

Kristan is a former editor of Eurogamer, dad, Stone Roses bore and Norwich City supporter who sometimes mutters optimistically about Team Silent getting back together.

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  • LeD #1 5 years ago

    Hang on, wasn't this reviewed already?

  • krudster #2 5 years ago

    Yes, on import.

  • numptyboymatt #3 5 years ago

    This was the one PS3 game I was even slightly bothered about, but this review has cemented my decision to wait for a price drop.

  • Dire #4 5 years ago

    worse than gears of war?

  • Eraser #5 5 years ago

    "Yes, on import."

    Is the game suddenly different in any significant ways?

  • Eraser #6 5 years ago

    ps, Gears of War got a 8/10

  • Steroyd #7 5 years ago

    .... have i gone back to November 2006? o_O

  • Martin_feltches_men #8 5 years ago

    reinstate the one point campaign starts here!

    give us back our point Eurogamer!

  • Talha #9 5 years ago

    The review does a good job of highlighting how really generic a shooter Resistance is. You can feel the boredom of the reviewer, and for good reason. My only complaint is that it all but implies that there are no redeeming features whatsoever, and if that is the case, 6/10 is way too generous. Particularly for such a heavily touted and hyped title.

  • Scimarad #10 5 years ago

    Everyboy is entitled to an opinion but personally me and my friends really enjoyed playing this on co-op...after putting the difficulty up. The only real disapointment for me was that the vehicle sections were pretty clearly seperated from the rest of the game unlike in Halo. Then again, I couldn't give a crap about online so what do I know?

    Graphically this is no where near Gears but from a gameplay perspective I really can't choose between them. I won't deny that the fact it features alternate history, aliens and is set in England is big plus point for me but I do genuinely think it's a great game.

    Personally I'd give it a 7 or an 8.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 08:03

  • Dezm0nd #11 5 years ago

    Cheers for the PAL review, shame it's still a bit above average, will we see motorstorm review, PAL?

    I want a reason to buy a PS3.

  • BrokenSymmetry #12 5 years ago

    "Is the game suddenly different in any significant ways?"

    Yes, it lost one point from its score...

  • sharpfish #13 5 years ago

    "I want a reason to buy a PS3."

    Good Luck.

  • banjo21 #14 5 years ago

    imho far better than GOW. More game play, more variety, more story, more characters, not quite as pretty but hey I didn't marry the prettiest girl that I ever kissed.

    Its FPS rather than Lara Croft TPS - big plus. It also manages to entertain for more than the 6 hours of GoW and the 8 of Lara's latest flick.

    Not quite epic like COD2 but not too far off. Again imho about as good as COD2 for a launch FPS - better for online. Didn't some of the journos score the laughable PDZ on the 360 a higher score than this so take this with pinch of saltogram.

    If anyone likes COD2/3 or HL then I think you'll love this - still by far the best launch game on the PS3.

  • LeD #15 5 years ago

    "still by far the best launch game on the PS3."

    Surely you jest.

  • BartonFink #16 5 years ago

    Sooo not quite as good as Perfect Dark Zero then :/

  • Steroyd #17 5 years ago

    I was on a few forums, and boy it sounds like such a blast that I've somehow become tempted to join a clan. o_O

    Plus it's online got a few new modes yesterday and weapons balancing has been sorted out.

  • banjo21 #18 5 years ago

    No jesting matey - the only other one that tweaked a nerve was F1 and that aint getting the air time of RFOM. What you playing?

  • BartonFink #19 5 years ago

    This should be an interesting one today.

    Popcorn anybody?

  • Runtime #20 5 years ago

    No mention of online modes. Can we expect a second review once EG have tried the multiplayer as per GOW on X360?

  • uiruki #21 5 years ago

    Scimarad, there is no coop in Resistance. I won't subject everyone to what I've said about Resistance and it being as boring as they come, but let's just say I'm glad it cost less than 25 quid in Japan new otherwise I'd have been really unhappy.

  • Dizzy #22 5 years ago

    6? Wow.. very harsh... but EG seems to rate FPS game always with a very critical eye. I do not mind (unlike the "Halo only 8" people) since the genre has plenty of contenders maybe it is good to be critical.

  • Steroyd #23 5 years ago

    6? Wow.. very harsh... but EG seems to rate FPS game always with a very critical eye. I do not mind (unlike the "Halo only 8" people) since the genre has plenty of contenders maybe it is good to be critical.

    Doom... ¬_¬

    /still hangs it over EG's head.

  • Scimarad #24 5 years ago

    Actually, I'd probably agree it's one of the best. I've just read the review through again it sounds way to harsh. A lot of the points he makes are true when you step back and look at it objectively but I must admit I was having so much fun playing it that I can't say I noticed at the time.

    I certainly wouldn't agree with the lack of tension thing - Maybe my friends and I just suck at FPS but I can remember plenty of times where we kept getting our arses well and truly kicked. The end of the Grimsby section springs to mind as does that battle near Tower Bridge. I would definitely prefer if it contained AI of a Halo-like level but TBH I can't say its absence spoiled the game.

    I suppose what I'm trying to say is a lot of people are going to have an awful lot of fun with this and won't even notice the 'flaws' that bugged the reviewer so much. I'm not trying to say he's wrong rather than saying not everybody is going to see these apparent issues.

    @ uiruki

    What do you mean there is no co-op? Did I halucinate the whole thing? Resistance co-op works the same way as Halo.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 08:24

  • krudster #25 5 years ago

    There *are* so many shooters out there. That's the problem, and after a while they all just blend into one another. Insomniac had a chance to do something a bit different - especially given that it's a launch title where things get more attention. But instead, what we've got is yet another join the dots example.

  • Pachinko #26 5 years ago

    The AI is fairly generic from the beginning, granted, but the more you get into the game, the more it begins to show qualities. There are more and more fights where the enemies reposition themselves, throw grenades into your cover and flank you. The review completely fails to highlight this. It also neglects to mention the very excellent structure of many fights where the enemies are varied in such a way that you really need to work to get through them, use different weapons, move. Especially on Hard. But one of the main sins, the sometimes atrocious checkpointing, is barely mentioned, and when it is mentioned it gives the impression that the checkpoints are badly placed from the beginning only. The truth is they crop up throughout the game.

    All I can say is this review screams "I DID NOT PLAY THE WHOLE GAME BUT GAVE UP AFTER THREE HOURS BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS CRAP!" Not very professional. And what the is EG trying to do with this double review thing? Is it a 6 or is it a 7 in EG's opinion? We all have our own opinions? So EG is just a glorified net forum? My God, luckily it's free to read...

  • Scimarad #27 5 years ago

    @ Krudster

    I suppose if you have to play all those shooters you probably have a different perspective than me:-)

    I don't play that many shooters; Halo 1 & 2, Gears, COD2 and that's about it. I suppose it depends on how much you like the idea of COD2 with aliens. To me, the setting is a big part of why I enjoyed it so much.

    I'd agree with Pachinko that a lot of the weapons, though not necessarily useful all the way through, do definitely come to the forefront during certain situations. Being able to tag someone and leap back into cover is not something you do all the time, for example, but it's a bloody lifesaver on some occations!
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 08:32

  • krudster #28 5 years ago

    Pachinko: Don't be a rabid fanboy. I played it to completion and more.

    By the way, your CAPSLOCK KEY IS STUCK.

    Disc: There are sniper sections, but the fact that you can slow down time with your sniper rifle makes even these sections pretty easy.

    And, yes, having played pretty much every FPS worth a damn since Doom, I think I do need a little more than a run of the mill shooter to excite me. I'm sure if you haven't played very many FPS games, then you'd think this was a pretty decent game.
    Edited by 2 at 22/03/07 @ 08:34

  • drumbaby #29 5 years ago

    The Europeans get a price hike, decreased BC...AND a whole point knocked off the same game!

  • Xerx3s #30 5 years ago

    Didn't this already get a 7/10? o_o

  • Scimarad #31 5 years ago

    Import review plus different reviewer.

    /case solved!

  • uiruki #32 5 years ago

    scimarad: You're right, on closer inspection, so there is... you've surprised two people there, me and a friend who absolutely couldn't recall it being in the game. Says as much about the game as my early-morning demeanour :p

  • Pachinko #33 5 years ago

    @krudster: then I can only assume that this is just a bad review of a game that does not do it justice. The first review highlighted its ups and downs much better. In that light, there was really no need for the second review, particularly since it completely fails to highlight any differences between the American and the European version or lack thereof. Supposedly the checkpoints are better placed in the PAL version and the AI is slightly improved. The only person who would know that is probably Tom who wrote the first review.

    A 2 for EG, then.

  • krudster #34 5 years ago

    To answer everyone getting steamed up about the double review - we've done this many times before, and yes, even changed the score.

    Sometimes it's to review it on a different platform, sometimes it's because the game came out ages ago on import and we maybe need a fresh take if it's a really important game. This is one of those.

    Like everyone reading the site, we all have differences of opinion, and these solidify with the passing of time. Since Resistance came out in the US, we've had Gears of War, FEAR on 360, Call of Duty 3, Rainbow Six Vegas, STALKER and GRAW 2. All of these games are, in my opinion, streets ahead of Resistance, so giving it a 7 seemed to imply that it's almost as good as these games, when it's really not even close.

    The revised mark reflects that.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 08:42

  • Xerx3s #35 5 years ago

    Will read the article in a min, a pagehit drawer?

    Doom... ¬_¬

    What about it? Very entertaining game. Still play it regularly in SS coop with me mates.

  • Khanivor #36 5 years ago

    Does this mean in June it will be worth a five? :)

    Surely there are other games coming out for the launch, would ye nae be better reviewing those then have a second opinion of a game that's been reviewed to death since it first came out?

    /awaits 2nd Motorstorm review

  • krudster #37 5 years ago

    All I can say Pachinko is you're upset because my review doesn't tally with your opinion. In classic fanboy rant style you resort to insulting the reviewer and questioning their integrity and professionalism.

    Water off a duck's back.

    By the way, Tom pretty much said in no uncertain terms that "you couldn't pay me to re-review this game", such was his general boredom levels when discussing this game.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 08:47

  • krudster #38 5 years ago

    Khanivor - there are absolutely stacks of PS3 reviews coming, but we're not going to just swamp the site with them on day one. They'd just get lost.

    Besides, other platforms have some big releases this week - such as Burnout Dominator on PS2, Stalker on PC, Brian Lara on 360 and so on.

    By the end of next week, pretty much every PS3 launch title will be covered in some form.

  • TripSkyway #39 5 years ago

    The review very much fits with my feelings on the game. I was very disappointed, with Resistance.
    Edited by 2 at 22/03/07 @ 08:47

  • Xerx3s #40 5 years ago

    /sings

    teen age mutant hero turtles,
    TEEN AGE MUTANT HERO TURTLES,
    TEEN AGE MUTANT HERO TURTLES!!

    Heroes in a half shell,
    TURTLE POWER!!

    ;p

  • login_name #41 5 years ago

    Having played a multitude of FPS games, on both pc and console, this is by no means a poor game. Compared to the vastly over hyped Black, Halo, GoW (yes I know it's not technically a FPS), Doom3, etc and even the more serious i.e. less comparable GRAW, Flashpoint and it's unofficial sequel, Resistance holds it's own pretty well.

    It's not a patch on the better examples of the genre, but it's certainly not as bad as this review makes it sound. It seems to me that the reviewer was expecting more from the developers, rather then the game itself, and so downgraded his opinion since he felt they could do better. That's fine, but I do wonder what it may have received had it not been hyped or developed by Insomniac (who, incidentally, I think are over hyped as a dev studio).

    Best to chalk this up to personal preference and try it for yourself.

  • Prey #42 5 years ago

    So Stalker an already heavily outdated looking PC game but with an excellent single player campaign still manages to beat a next generation Ps3 title hands down?

    I can certainly live with that.

    Resistance always looked the part, but it seems first person shooters on the PS3 must try harder.

  • Arwin #43 5 years ago

    @krudster: I like that, and how, you defend your review here.

    That said, I have been following gamers and reviews all over the web, and Resistance is a game that seems to keep people interested and playing a lot longer than usual. Also, many of the reviewers have revised their opinion of the game upwards after the review.

    Particularly the multi-player online gets really good buzz, with Insomniac paying a lot of attention to the balancing of the game, with considerable updates. One set of which incidentally was released just a short while ago, and you could have taken this opportunity to discuss those changes.

    However much you seem and claim to know about the FPS genre, you should have known that online in this genre is important, and as you've admitted to not having been able to play online all that much, your inexperience (and lack of homework) has taken a point away from this game unjustifiably.

    Of course, you can make up your own mind, and we always appreciate how Eurogamer isn't afraid to stand out from the crowd, but sometimes the crowd is not wrong.

  • Pachinko #44 5 years ago

    All I can say krudster is that your 'opinion' is backed up by ducks and water instead of the events in the game itself. You fail to mention many elements, from the improved AI the more you get into the game to bad checkpoints throughout to combat structuring. Your opinion and mine may be different, yet I'm not questioning your opinion - I'm questioning the review which draws its conclusions from incomplete facts. To each his own and generally your reviews are solid, yet you have really failed to do your work here. Nobody's perfect and I understand that, but writing an incomplete review and then calling me a fanboy because I can see certain quailites and remark upon them? Brilliant.

  • uiruki #45 5 years ago

    I think the problem is not that it's bad, just that it's so stupefying in its averageness that it makes you hate the game with a passion. You know it's average, not great, not awful, but the complete lack of extreme feeling about it gnaws away at you till you can't stand the sight of it anymore. Same happened with Evolution on the Dreamcast - not terrible, not great, but I hated it more than anything.

  • Scimarad #46 5 years ago

    I think Krudster makes some very good points and, let's face it, has probably played a lot more FPS that the rest of us:-)

    Personally I find it a lot more appealing than both COD3 and FEAR, though I have limited experience of both. I probably care more about the setting than most FPS gamers, though.

    "You know it's average, not great, not awful, but the complete lack of extreme feeling about it gnaws away at you till you can't stand the sight of it anymore."

    With respect, that's bollocks! Never once did I consider this game average...
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 08:55

  • bioreit #47 5 years ago

    @ Pachinko

    You're a moron. Either that, or the local lunatic asylum employees are going APE trying to track you down and dart you.

    @ Krudster

    Good review - shame about this though, as along with MotorStorm it was pushing me towards The Great Evil. Will hold off a year or so methinks.

    Oh and only "every FPS worth a damn since Doom"?

    Pfft! Wolfenstein 3D for me matey - and I'm younger than you! Try and keep up - chop, chop!

  • henben #48 5 years ago

    The Auger is by no means the first gun that can shoot through walls. Perfect Dark had one; there was also the Gauss gun in an obscure 90s title called Half-Life.

  • S.J.Rogers #49 5 years ago

    Thank god i did not get a PS3 and will stick with the 360.

    This was the only game that would have made me want a PS3.

    Dodged another Sony bullet...!

  • uiruki #50 5 years ago

    Scimarad: Good for you, that means you didn't waste your money like Trip and I did. I found that the game was utterly ruined by being released around the same time as Call of Duty 3 and Gears of War, back in November. I never once got the feeling that I was actually hitting anything with my bullets, even after patching the blood in due to the Japanese version's censorship.

  • repairmanjack #51 5 years ago

    So... Resistance is futile?

  • Xerx3s #52 5 years ago

    Just a little more environmental imagination would have made a lot of difference too, but we're talking about a game where the most you can expect is that your cover points will get blown apart. No matter how rickety a building looks, or how temporary a particular shelter might look, you could fire a shell from a tank and not even make a dent. Likewise, when all hell is breaking loose and you're standing in a building that's barely upright, how ridiculous to see that you're entirely safe from an onslaught of rocket fire if you just duck down behind a rickety brick wall.

    That's not really fair, is it? You can count the fps games throughout history on one hand. This kind of stuff is just very difficult for designers to do as it creates lots of unknown variables.

  • beep #53 5 years ago

    Suddenly if a game can't look as good as Gears of War, it's not going to get the same treatment.

    Can't wait for the future!

  • nedrichards #54 5 years ago

    Xerx3s: It's not an FPS but it's done in Crackdown... and now that I've experienced a 'physics world' I can understand how going back to a more styalised game could lead to a certain 'crate review system' type weariness.

  • krudster #55 5 years ago

    Well, to be fair I played Wolfenstein after Doom, so I'm not going to claim to have been there right at the start ;)

    I was too busy relying on Team 17 and LucasArts to keep the Amiga going at that point!

    Pachinko: fair enough that you love the game, you're entitled to defend it. What you don't have to do in defending it is come across as a petulant angry teenager who's upset that someone's criticised his favourite band. Please learn some basic manners, if that's possible.

    Taking your points in turn, if the AI has indeed been improved, then it certainly doesn't seem to have worked. As discussed heavily in the review, the AI is in fact one of the things that makes the game so very dull. It does nothing that 25 other shooters don't do the same or better, so excuse me for being thoroughly underwhelmed by it.

    Checkpointing? It's a problem at the beginning, but only because you don't have the ability to recharge your health. After that, the game's so easy to cheat your way through with recharging health that it's barely an issue.

    If online gaming is your thing, then Resistance does have something to offer, but no more so than, say, Call of Duty 3, or GRAW 2 or GoW, or Rainbow Six or any number of other shooters on the market. What I didn't mention in my so-called incomplete review is that I spent over 30 minutes waiting in a lobby for a 40 player game to start, but so many people got bored and dropped out that it didn't even get going. I tried at several points to experience the 40 player stuff, but no-one could ever be bothered, and the servers weren't populated enough.

    All I saw were some rather unexciting 16 player matches over various done to death modes. Yawn.

  • Introspectre #56 5 years ago

    lol@Pachinko

    Being a fanboi must be quite stressful

    TAKE LITHIUM

  • Scimarad #57 5 years ago

    I must admit to hiding behind some very flimsy wooden crates in Resistance:-)

    Can't say it ruined the game for me, though...

  • mkreku #58 5 years ago

    Were the patches that's been released for this game included in this review? Did the patches make this game worse for some reason?

    I thought content patches were supposed to make games better :|

  • SwedBear #59 5 years ago

    Good review. Mirros my thoughts on the game quite closely. I just found it dull after a while. It's possible the game suddenly sprung to life after the first 4-5 hours but at that time I stopped playing it.

    As for online. My main gripes there was that most maps I played on (ranked games only) didnt seem to work that well with many players in it. It was more a rule than an exception that you would spawn right next to a guy that had spawned just before you. And that still was only with 16-24 people in them.

    However - it's been a while since I picked up the game again so the recent patches might have improved stuff. Going to see if I can get some online games now that the Europeans are online.

  • Scimarad #60 5 years ago

    I believe someone was complaing that the patch removed some 'cheats'...

  • crouchy #61 5 years ago

    Surprised at the review. Review scores differ wildly. A good launch title never the less.

  • bioreit #62 5 years ago

    @ Krudster

    "Well, to be fair I played Wolfenstein after Doom, so I'm not going to claim to have been there right at the start ;) "

    Fair enough. Amiga fanboy. ;-)

    Atari 520 / 1040 ST FTW!

    And BBC Micro. Ooh and my good ol' Commodre 64.

    Damn, now I'm going to have root around the attic and dig them out.

    Thanks a bunch, Kristan 'Amiga Boy' Reed! Grr.

  • Pachinko #63 5 years ago

    @krudster: I still very much disagree. There is a plethora of fights where the Chimera come at you armed with the Auger cannon and it's effectively impossible to play the ducking game (here, again, come the ducks). There are several fights where the Chimera show a completely respectable level of AI. Now you and I may disagree what this means, but in terms of sci-fi themed shooters with games such as Gears of War, Unreal Tournament et al, Resistance is at the very top. I think that you had very high expectations, Resistance didn't fulfill them, hence the venom. So who is really the fanboy here?

    No need to answer that, you or your blood-thirsty cohort: it must be me since the review is totally perfect. One less click from me for you, then. In all those millions that won't show at all anyway.

  • simo #64 5 years ago

    Watch your back krudster. I can hear JediMasterMalik coming up over the hill, and he sounds pissed!

  • Xerx3s #65 5 years ago

    /flees in terror

  • ProdigyBE_OPM #66 5 years ago

    Phew.

    Soooooo wrong.

    first of, if your a journalist, Play the game on Hard. A.I. is way more advanced than Gears or COD... In co-op, when one player dies, some Chimera imediatly guard his body and the rest really hunts you down. Most of the time, you don't survive the 60 seconds.

    and visuals... Compared to Gears, Resistance has far more objects with physics, breakable stuff (most windows in Gears seem to be made of solid steel), much bigger enviroments and above all, corpses don't dissapear in Resistance. Fight a heavy battle, then move on past the pile of corpses that you've created.

    Am I really the only one who thinks dissapearing corpses are SOOOO last gen?

    And to finish of, I'd take Resistance weapons over the ones offered in GOW any day. I ended up using the Machine Gun/shotgun combo most of the time in GOW, and that's not my idea of exiting weapons.

    I'm not saying Resistance belongs in the 'DOOM, Quake, Deus Ex, Half-Life, Halo 1' group, but it's a top shooter none the less.

    13 hours singleplayer and an unbelievably fun online aspect. (Again, beating GOW on this front)

  • SBfistfun #67 5 years ago

    People seem to be forgetting that this is meant to be a "next gen" game, on a very expensive console not the same old thing with shinier graphics.

    I think Krudster was spot on.

    It's an OPINION

  • simo #68 5 years ago

    0.375/10 for each GB

  • Khanivor #69 5 years ago

    I'm sure the site will be awash in new reviews krudster and I'm looking forward to them. Don't mistake my having stupidly stayed awake all night for having a go :)

    I am, however, interested in your comment about Tom being bored witless by the game, as he gave it a seven.. :p

    Anyway, I just want to read some reviews of games that are already out on the 360 that are making their PS3 debut this week. And of F1.

  • Stupid_Fat_Hobbit #70 5 years ago

    Wonga: ...fall of manners...

    Haha, nice.

  • Dizzy #71 5 years ago

    >ProdigyBE_OPM

    Dude you can't come in here with a Official Playstation Magazine name and sound credible.

    Anyway... like someone said. If this came out on PC nobody would have an argument on the 6/10 score. FPS games have moved on... deal with it.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 09:40

  • simo #72 5 years ago

    @ Dizzy

    Maybe OPM stands for Original Pirate Material from The Streets?

    Then again, it probably doesn't...

  • Steroyd #73 5 years ago

    People seem to be forgetting that this is meant to be a "next gen" game, on a very expensive console not the same old thing with shinier graphics.

    ROFL.

  • nickthegun #74 5 years ago

    That's not really fair, is it? You can count the fps games throughout history on one hand. This kind of stuff is just very difficult for designers to do as it creates lots of unknown variables.

    Well Black pretty much managed it on the lil' ol XBox. You could hardly sit anywhere without someone blowing up your hidey hole. The enemies had good AI too.

  • Lemming81 #75 5 years ago

    Actually I thought the review read like a 4 or 5/10. It didn't have a good thing to say about it. A 6 just seems to be trying to stiffle the inevitable fallout from sony fanboys.

  • tonynibbles #76 5 years ago

    I think 6 is a bit harsh. It's worth a 7.

    MotorStorm is the game to buy anyway!

  • Xerx3s #77 5 years ago

    Well Black pretty much managed it on the lil' ol XBox. You could hardly sit anywhere without someone blowing up your hidey hole. The enemies had good AI too. That is one game, I can think of 2 more but that's about it.

  • simo #78 5 years ago

    Resistance: Fall of Man is the new Killzone.

    Killzone 2 will most likely be the new Resistance: Fall of Man.

  • Xerx3s #79 5 years ago

    (Again, beating GOW on this front)

    I'm sure many people will agree with this.

    /shoots rodpad in the back
    /wins round

    \0/

  • Darren #80 5 years ago

    I really don't see why EG chose to re-review the game with a different reviewer... why didn't they just reprint the original review and point out any differences between the US and UK versions (if there are any)? I mean it's confusing to have two different reviews and I'm sure the game hasn't aged that much since its release last November to warrant a 10% lower score. I mean even the hypercritical Edge managed to award it a 7!

  • Steroyd #81 5 years ago

    Well Black pretty much managed it on the lil' ol XBox. You could hardly sit anywhere without someone blowing up your hidey hole. The enemies had good AI too.

    I read it had less than average Ai so i stayed away from it like the plague.

  • nickthegun #82 5 years ago

    Well, yes, but I think the point is that if one game can manage it, on 'last gen' hardware and do it in spectacular fashion, a game on the all singing, all dancing monolith should be able to do it in its sleep.

    The fact that there aretn many games that do it well is probably more of a testament to Criterion than anything else, but it is still an advancement they made and anything else after seems like a step backwards.

  • ProdigyBE_OPM #83 5 years ago

    >Dizzy

    First off, We do multiplatform stuff also. And I've got a long carreer in PC gaming journalism behind me. I've finished the game on hard, so I think my oppinion is as good as any other EG visitor.

    I'm not saying Resistance is THE best game ever, but the sheer scope of the enviroments, the many different locations and moods, the physics, the cool and well balanced (online) weapons, the corpses that stick arround and the 20vs20 lag-less online play and very handy Clan functionality make RFOM pretty next gen in my book.

    Yes, it doesn't break any barriers, but it does the tried and true formula very well.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 09:54

  • nickthegun #84 5 years ago

    The AI on Black was excellent. If you ran off to retreat, the AI would literally stalk you and try and out flank you all the way back to the beginning of the level.

  • Netfreak #85 5 years ago

    Waaaahh... Resistance didn't get 9/10. Waaaahhh..

  • mash the x button #86 5 years ago

    Having seen gameplay videos of the godawful and incredibly dull Gears of War, which was lauded to the heavens by most reviewers, I find I have to take most reviews with a pinch of salt nowadays.

  • krudster #87 5 years ago

    Not by me it wasn't ;)

  • Rev.StuartCampbell #88 5 years ago

    It's no Slitherlink, is it?

    Slitherlink FTW!

    :D

  • simo #89 5 years ago

    @ Dizzy

    Ah, so the OPM guy is an official PlayStation shill? Here's your fiver.

  • mike_mgoblue #90 5 years ago

    Resistance: Fall of Man is a game that deserves the poor 6 out of 10 review score it received.

    Resistance: Fall of Man is a game that is fast-paced, and the developers originally wanted it to run at 60 frames per second in order to play in the proper way. Generally speaking, "Run-n-Gun" fast paced games usually should run at 60 frames per second, while "Stop-n-Pop" slower-paced games work fine at 30 frames per second.

    However, at the end of the development cycle, the developers realized the Playstation 3 didn't have the power to run a smooth 60 frames per second framerate. Just look at the way Call of Duty 3 runs at 60 frames per second perfectly smooth on the Xbox 360, but the Playstation 3 version of Call of Duty 3 is terribly choppy and cannot maintain the 60 frames per second framerate.

    The developers of Resistance: Fall of Man didn't want that same sort of choppy framerate, so they lowered it to 30 frames per second late in the development, which was NOT the original goal of this game, which is why the gameplay is completely messed up.

    One of the BIGGEST flaws of Resistance: Fall of Man is that it doesn't have Online Co-Op mode like Gears of War on the Xbox 360 does. Playing Xbox 360 games with Online Co-Op modes that allow you to play through the single-player modes with a friend in games like Gears of War and Perfect Dark Zero is SO MUCH FUN!!! Online Co-Op modes make it so there is unlimited replay value in the single-player aspect of the game. It is a terrible shame that Playstation 3 games like Resistance: Fall of Man do not include Online Co-Op in that way.

    Resistance: Fall of Man really was one of the biggest disappointments for the Playstation 3, and so was Motorstorm. Motorstorm is another Playstation 3 game with a very choppy framerate that takes away from the fun, particularly when there are a a lot of cars on the screen or when the action is fast.

    Even Playstation magazines that compare games side-by-side point out that the Playstation 3 doesn't have anything that compares to Gears of War, Lost Planet, or Crackdown.

    At this point in time, the Playstation 3 is just not worth the expensive price, because it has very few exclusive games. The Xbox 360 has far more high-quality exclusive games than the Playstation 3. And every third-party game released on both systems has better graphics and more online features on the Xbox 360.

    The poor software for the Playstation 3 just isn't worth all that money. The PS3 doesn't even come with a headset, like the Xbox 360 does. Playstation 3 doesn't even come with high-definition cables.

    When you consider that games like Devil May Cry 4 are now also appearing on the Xbox 360, I want to buy the Xbox 360 version, because I have grown used to all of the cool Rumble features in the first three Devil May Cry games, and I would rather play Devil May Cry 4 with Rumble on the Xbox 360, plus I get all of the cool Achievement Points in the Xbox 360 version.

    And when you consider that companies like Namco are announcing games like Ace Combat 6 only for the Xbox 360, it makes me think the Playstation 3 may have a very short life expectancy--it might get discontinued pretty soon because of all the poor sales in North America and Japan...and probably Europe...After all, it is common knowledge that there won't be any shortages of the PS3 in Europe, because the demand just isn't high enough.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 10:06

  • Steroyd #91 5 years ago

    Waaaahh... Resistance didn't get 9/10. Waaaahhh..

    Isn't there a cave you should be in?

    For probably the first time on EG I haven't seen anyone complain about the score number directly but the text that comes with the number.

  • Scientist #92 5 years ago

    "And I've got a long carreer in PC gaming journalism behind me."

    You're joking, right?

    I assume someone else edits your work before it gets published, because you write like a fanboy, not a professional.

  • themorganator #93 5 years ago

    Personal opinion follows:

    Surely the point that EG are trying to make is that Fall of man is a missed opportunity. I don't think that comparing this title to Gears... or any other for that matter has any real bearing on this review. I've been playing this game for some time now (on my mates imported PS3) and there's simply nothing new within the game or the story that has been done already. As gamers, we need the studios to push the boundries - developing new IP that leads to better games for all. We need more than the 'EA' - just push out an update (it will sell loads) type strategy. This is exactly what Fall of man feels like to me.

    As a 360 owner (but gamer at heart) I really wanted this game to tip me off the fence, enabling me to cough up the £500 or so to get a PS3. It's undeniably an excellent console, but I'm going to wait though for a few more titles ...... and a price drop!

  • matrim83 #94 5 years ago

    AFAIC both 6 and 7 out of 10 signify a very average game, so I don't see what the fuss is all about. And this has a 6/10 written all over it.

    I know its a common thing to say around here but this really looks average, not graphically but artistically. You know "the whole 7 shades of brown colour" complaint.

  • windowlicker #95 5 years ago

    I have quoted this 'Journalist' so you can see the poor quality spellings in the text. As for the bias, what do you expect from OPM?

    Quoted from ProdigyBE_OPM

    "First off, We do multiplatform stuff also. And I've got a long carreer in PC gaming journalism behind me. I've finished the game on hard, so I think my oppinion is as good as any other EG visitor.

    I'm not saying Resistance is THE best game ever, but the sheer scope of the enviroments, the many different locations and moods, the physics, the cool and well balanced (online) weapons, the corpses that stick arround and the 20vs20 lag-less online play and very handy Clan functionality make RFOM pretty next gen in my book.

    Yes, it doesn't break any barriers, but it does the tried and true formula very well."

  • rider2006 #96 5 years ago

    I think the review may be spot on. By looking at the game it does not seem like one of the best FPS games out. It seems kind of average.

  • GamesConnoisseur #97 5 years ago

    Mash the X Button:

    "Having seen gameplay videos of the godawful and incredibly dull Gears of War, which was lauded to the heavens by most reviewers, I find I have to take most reviews with a pinch of salt nowadays."

    Thanks heavens for the gameplay videos, it allow us to give an informed judgement of the actual gameplay!!

  • Netfreak #98 5 years ago


    For probably the first time on EG I haven't seen anyone complain about the score number directly but the text that comes with the number.


    Yet even if I made no mention of numbers fanboys would still rant. 6/10 hurts.

  • mike_mgoblue #99 5 years ago

    Wasp,

    Just because it STINGS that Resistance: Fall of Man does NOT include Online Co-Op mode, and ended up with the low 6 out of 10 score it deserves does NOT make me a Microsoft employee.

    Live with it, Resistance: Fall of Man, and almost all of the Playstation 3 titles being released are poor quality.

    Playstation 3 has very few exclusive games, and most of them are very poor quality.

    Every game released on both systems is better on the Xbox 360 in terms of the graphics and online play features.

    Thinking about those facts does not make me a Microsoft employee, it just makes me an intelligent person.

  • Dizzy #100 5 years ago

    "Thanks heavens for the gameplay videos, it allow us to give an informed judgement of the actual gameplay!! "

    ROFL...

    Seriously... maybe we should have a forum section where we review gameplay movies. ;)

  • SBfistfun #101 5 years ago

    ^ Great idea, bagsy reviewing "mommy's got a cock"

  • PearOfAnguish #102 5 years ago

    Some of you sure do get upset when someone's opinion doesn't match your own, huh?
    It's understandable though, if I'd dropped the best part of £500 on a console with average launch titles I'd be desperate to find a way to justify the cost too.

  • Xerx3s #103 5 years ago

    Not by me it wasn't ;)

    Is that a GoW re-review I hear there? ;)

    ProdigyBE_OPM

    You may be all that but having read the absolute tripe from OPM and OXM, it really isn't something to wear proudly in your name.

    I assume someone else edits your work before it gets published, because you write like a fanboy, not a professional.

    OPM says t all really. ¬_¬
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 10:21

  • xAx #104 5 years ago

    The first 3 pictures are the same.

  • miiiguel #105 5 years ago

    Pachinko: I'm just wondering, you claim the reviewer probably didn't play the game as long as he should, to know some really important shit like the improved AI, how long have you played it to know that this game is oh so brilliant ?
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 10:27

  • Darren #106 5 years ago

    Well to me a 7/10 game is a good one that I'd buy, a 6/10 one is borderline and would make me reconsider.

    After reading the US reviews last November, most of which were overwhelmingly positive (GameSpot gave it 86%), Edge's and EG's 7/10 reviews, as well as watching numerous video reviews, I decided to pre-order the game as it looked like that sort of thing I'd like; nothing original but good fun nonetheless.

    This last-minute 6/10 review from EG has now cast doubts in my mind and the game has gone from being a good game to being one that is considered only just above mediocre and that for me is disappointing to hear. I guess I'll have to make my own mind up about the game tomorrow (unless I decided against buying it) but 6/10 screams out PS2 Killzone to me and I thought that was a terrible game so it's putting me off Resistance somewhat... :(

    I'd like to know if Resistance is a much better game than Killzone on the PS2... if anyone can confirm it is then that's enough to convince me to buy the PS3 game.

    Over to you...

  • SeesThroughAll #107 5 years ago

    I'd like to know if Resistance is a much better game than Killzone on the PS2... if anyone can confirm it is then that's enough to convince me to buy the PS3 game.

    Somehow I don't find that too difficult either.

  • pagedown #108 5 years ago

    Jeez. They're all coming out the woodwork now.

  • simo #109 5 years ago

    You know what makes me LAUGH OUT LOUD about that OPM guy? Surely, he of all people should understand the nature of EG's work, right? After all, they are fellow 'professionals' are they not? He should be as aware as anyone that a review will rarely, if ever, sync with everyone's tastes. That he then decided to have a pop, knowing full well the nature of the game review, shows just what a shitty little fanboy rag OPM really is. Remind me never, NEVER to even so much as look inside it.

  • Steroyd #110 5 years ago

    I'd like to know if Resistance is a much better game than Killzone on the PS2... if anyone can confirm it is then that's enough to convince me to buy the PS3 game.

    I don't think it would be too hard to be better than Killzone, you can actually Patch Resistance after release. *snigger*

  • nickthegun #111 5 years ago

    I'm still finding it hilarious that a 'journalist' would come on here and post like a retard. I mean, jesus, there aren't many worse posts on the forums.

    Kind of gives me hope that if I ever wanted to jack in my job, I could still find work in an official console publication.

  • PlugMonkey #112 5 years ago

    wasp - hasn't that been done already? It was an entirely different Michael Zoran, I believe.

  • malteaserhead #113 5 years ago

    wasp
    22-Mar-07 10:27:46

    mike_mgoblue, you're quite right.
    resistance being crap doesn't make you an MS employee.
    however, this does.

    _______

    pwn of the week (weak)?

  • Carrybagma #114 5 years ago

    He's certainly a screaming fanboy tosser.

  • PearOfAnguish #115 5 years ago

    "First off, We do multiplatform stuff also. And I've got a long carreer in PC gaming journalism behind me. I've finished the game on hard, so I think my oppinion is as good as any other EG visitor.

    I'm not saying Resistance is THE best game ever, but the sheer scope of the enviroments, the many different locations and moods, the physics, the cool and well balanced (online) weapons, the corpses that stick arround and the 20vs20 lag-less online play and very handy Clan functionality make RFOM pretty next gen in my book.

    Yes, it doesn't break any barriers, but it does the tried and true formula very well."

    Hey Mr Journalist, a little tip: when you post online there's no sub-editor to fix your terrible grammar and spelling, so you've got to do it yourself.

  • miiiguel #116 5 years ago

    PearOfAnguish: if he had scored the game 9/10 you'd say he's the best reviewer ever..., I bet.

  • Genji #117 5 years ago

    Uhh, I don't think he's talking about this reviewer.

  • nickthegun #118 5 years ago

    Presumably, after reading his posts, the review would read something like:

    RFOM is one of the best lunch titles evar. I have long experence in games so i know what im talkin about.

    9/10

  • Xerx3s #119 5 years ago

    I'm still finding it hilarious that a 'journalist' would come on here and post like a retard. I mean, jesus, there aren't many worse posts on the forums.

    Even journo's are humans. Being a journo doesn't automatically remove stuff like fanboyism. It should but the truth is that we all carry baggage and not everyone can throw that away because the jobs needs him to.

  • GitSomE_UK #120 5 years ago

    Damn, I've not seen Fanboy rage like this for a long time.

    Sony your launch failure is complete in Europe. Crap BC, Nobbled hardware, Blu Ray is an over hyped Turkey, No Rumble, Over priced and it seems only game is worth buying (Motorstorm)... what next a massive crop of botched first gen Euro hardware cos of the Emotion chip removal?

    Money I've saved from not getting the PS3 is going towards my replacement Uber PC ready for Crysis and the other big releases on PC... thanks Sony!

    Full PS3 rig - Approx £600-700 quid
    Uber PC - Intel Core 2, 2GB, 8800GTS etc £750 quid (self build from SCAN)
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 11:06

  • nickthegun #121 5 years ago

    Even journo's are humans. Being a journo doesn't automatically remove stuff like fanboyism. It should but the truth is that we all carry baggage and not everyone can throw that away because the jobs needs him to.

    Its not really even the fanboyism. Its the spelling and grammar.

    If he came on and defended the post as a regular punter, then fair enough. But journos are purveyors of the Queens English and to declare yourself as a journalist, then cobble together a badly constructed post, without bothering to spell check it is the message board equivalent of painting an American Flag on your arse and running naked through Iran.

    Im an IT professional and if I ever post anything about it I make damn sure I do a good, accurate job as I dont want to look like a complete arse.

  • PearOfAnguish #122 5 years ago

    "PearOfAnguish: if he had scored the game 9/10 you'd say he's the best reviewer ever..., I bet."

    Eh?

  • Genji #123 5 years ago

    @PearOfAnguish

    Yeah, I think he missed the boat on that one.

  • Scientist #124 5 years ago

    @nickthegun


    Are you afraid of the apostrophe? :-)

  • Dizzy #125 5 years ago

    "If he came on and defended the post as a regular punter, then fair enough. But journos are purveyors of the Queens English and to declare yourself as a journalist"

    I think he is from OPM Benelux... hence the BE behind his name. So don't flame him too hard for bad grammar (spelling on the other hand can easily be fixed).

    BTW OPM Belgium is famous for being a very crappy fanboy magazine.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 11:11

  • urban #126 5 years ago

    you're evil.

  • Steroyd #127 5 years ago

    Sony your launch failure is complete in Europe. Crap BC, Nobbled hardware, Blu Ray is an over hyped Turkey, No Rumble, Over priced and it seems only game is worth buying (Motorstorm)... what next a massive crop of botched first gen Euro hardware cos of the Emotion chip removal?

    If you miss rumble that much it'd be nice for you to know that sometime in the future Rumble is going to come back.
    Are you going to be happy with your vibrations now?

    Everything bar the Crap B/C is subjective, like the "Blu Ray is an over hyped Turkey" which could add value to an "Over priced" PS3.

  • Xerx3s #128 5 years ago

    So what happened to rumble being last gen and all.

  • nickthegun #129 5 years ago

    Are you afraid of the apostrophe? :-)

    No. I dont use it. Its for girls.

  • ProdigyBE_OPM #130 5 years ago

    Well, if I was an editor on the UK OPM mag, I'd be pretty ashamed too.
    they're pretty biased.
    We (OPM Benelux) do have the guts to score GT4 with an 80% or tell our readers they screwed op the US and Japan release big time, and we do critisize Sony on lots of stuff they do (pre rendered trailers) and don't do (Backwards comp).

    But Resistance FOM a 6/10, and Perfect Dark Zero a 7/10... that just ain't fair.

    (and to anyone wo thinks my english is bad... it's better than your dutch)

  • Syrette #131 5 years ago

    Where's JediMasterMalik? Someone just put down a PS3 title, expect him to be a little upset.

  • ThreeOutsideDown #132 5 years ago

    Where's JediMasterMalik? Someone just put down a PS3 title, expect him to be a little upset.

    he's camping out at the virgin megastore with the 4 other people, waiting in line for his ps3.

  • zuljin #133 5 years ago

    @Xerx3s
    "So what happened to rumble being last gen and all."
    Thats what the 1Up guys asked Phil Harrison in an interview recently. His reply:

    "As to previous statement that I've made, we were in a lawsuit!"

    I think thats a +1 for brutal honesty there.

  • Steroyd #134 5 years ago

    So what happened to rumble being last gen and all.

    He said "We were in a lawsuit so what did you expect me to say?"

    And so those who have been bitching about the lack of rumble shall get their wish.... wonder if they'd go buy a PS3 anyway.... ¬_¬

  • Overlush #135 5 years ago

    Oh dear. There really is NO reason to buy a PS3 for the next 6 months at least. September will bring some better exclusives. Until then...
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 11:42

  • zuljin #136 5 years ago

    @Overlush
    "There really is NO reason to buy a PS3"
    I think the peeps at folding@Home beg to differ.

    [link url=http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=ossta ts
    ]http://fa h-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main...[/link]

    PS3's have already outperformed all Mac's. :)

  • Paulanator #137 5 years ago

    The sad fact of the matter is that PS3 fanboys are so desperate to justify the worth of the PS3 to everyone (as well as themselves) that they are clinging to Resistance and Motorstorm, under the misguided delusions that they alone warrant the purchase of a PS3 at this point.

    Resistance looks so completely generic and boring, and I'm not suprised to see it get a 6. Don't forget that EG have said that they value originality and innovation over all else. It's the reason they gave Gears Of War an 8 when everyone else was giving it 9s and 10s.

    Strip away the slightly interseting setting and weapons of Resistance and you're left with an FPS that plays like one from five years ago. Hardly a shining example of what the 'next-gen' PS3 can do, is it?
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 11:56

  • AcidSnake #138 5 years ago

    @ProdigyOPM:
    It's a matter of opinion...
    I personally didn't like PD0 all that much, and haven't played Resistance yet so I'll refrain from commenting on the fairness of the review...
    Not a good sign anyway...

    Oh and about the dutch thing...Try me...

  • Steroyd #139 5 years ago

    Strip away the slightly interseting setting and weapons of Resistence and you're left with an FPS that plays like one from five years ago. Hardly a shining example of what the 'next-gen' PS3 can do, is it?

    You're also not left much of a game either.

    And i'd love to know what launch title shown what next gen was all about, even GeoW shows a depressing sign of what next gen is about and that's a year into the Xbox 360's life cycle.

  • Paulanator #140 5 years ago

    "And i'd love to know what launch title shown what next gen was all about, even GeoW shows a depressing sign of what next gen is about and that's a year into the Xbox 360's life cycle."


    That's one of the main reasons why I never buy consoles at launch. I own a 360, but didn't even consider buying one until GRAW and Oblivion were out. I'd urge everyone thinking of getting a PS3 at launch to do the same.

  • ThreeOutsideDown #141 5 years ago

    has the fanboy rage about the review petered out already?

    come on, you 'tards!

    i'm sure you can get this comments thread to 300.

  • Martin_feltches_men #142 5 years ago

    so wait a month then Paulanator?

  • ProdigyBE_OPM #143 5 years ago

    Sony's Next Gen example can do pretty good A.I. (seriously, play the game on hard), amazing physics, a whole lot of dead bodies an 40 player lag-less online play. That's stuff I didn't see in lots of other next gen shooters.

    So 6/10... I don't agree.
    Edited by 2 at 22/03/07 @ 12:12

  • neil_likes_bums #144 5 years ago

    I like carpet

  • ThreeOutsideDown #145 5 years ago

    wow.

    it can do "a whole lot of dead bodies"

    /preorders

    ...

    /cancels preorder

    nope, i'm afraid it's not a system seller for me.

  • Xerx3s #146 5 years ago

    (and to anyone wo thinks my english is bad... it's better than your dutch)

    Actually, no, it isn't.

  • Dizzy #147 5 years ago

    >it can do "a whole lot of dead bodies"

    The real next gen!

    I also do not think this guy gets it. Good AI has nothing to do with difficulty level. Difficult AI and Good AI are two different things. My years of experience being a (game) developer has thought me this! ;)
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 12:21

  • Overlush #148 5 years ago

    @zuljin

    Indeed - silly me for putting a consoles abilty to play games above anything else.

  • Paulanator #149 5 years ago

    "why do you care how other people choose to spend their monies?"


    How other people spend their 'monies', as you put it, directly affects the games industry as a whole.

    If we all rush out with 500 smackers and buy a console that hasn't proved it's worth yet as well as a decidedly average FPS then that sends out a message that we're a bunch of push-over saps. In contrast, if we all waited for the good PS3 games to come, we'd probably end up paying much less for the machine and have some good games to really show off what it can do.

  • RexRunti #150 5 years ago

    @zuljin

    I seriously doubt anyone is buying a PS3 because it runs Folding@Home better than a Mac.

  • Darren #151 5 years ago

    Well I always knew Resistance wasn't a classic when the 7/10 scores started coming in and even PlayStation Next 3 only gave the game 7/10. Still 6/10 is a little disappointing to see because it suggests mediocre rather than good as I said earlier but on reflection, I've enjoyed games before that have been rated that low so I'm still reasonably confident that I'll enjoy Resistance for what it is. Besides I even enjoyed Perfect Dark Zero! LOL

  • Xerx3s #152 5 years ago

    And so those who have been bitching about the lack of rumble shall get their wish.... wonder if they'd go buy a PS3 anyway.... ¬_¬

    Yeh, now that it will have rumble, I will buy a ps3. ¬_¬

    OPM: Maybe you should show the reviewer where you found those 40 p lagless games because he clearly couldn't find them. As for you pd0 comment: GoW, RB6V, Fear, etc. where already out back then? The reviewer takes the market into consideration. PD0 wasn't a stellar game and that mas mentioned often enough in the game but everything was solid enough in MP to carry it's weight. If it would get a new review today, it would most certainly score lower as time caught up with it. That and it had jet packs in MP which absolutely rocked (only reason to buy the game). \0/

  • ProdigyBE_OPM #153 5 years ago

    >Dizzy.

    If you play the game on easy, the A.I. does next to nothing. Play it on hard, and the average Chimera is very smart. They look for shelter, they work in team, they even hunt you down when one Co-op player gets killed. And they guard the dead body, so you can't go and ressurect your mate.

    And yes, Dead bodies is not a system seller.
    then again, disapearing bodies is even less so...

  • frod. #154 5 years ago

    keep going everyone! consensus will be achieved soon!

  • bonker #155 5 years ago

    "But Resistance FOM a 6/10, and Perfect Dark Zero a 7/10... that just ain't fair. "

    Hold on, now you're comparing it to an 18 months old game!

    Time can't stand still for Sony you know, it's their own tough shit that they made it to the party 18 months late.

    See, I think this is very demonstrative of where the PS3 is at - it's competing with the 360's (more average) launch titles as if time had stood still and everything that has come out over the last year for the 360 didn't exist.

  • bonker #156 5 years ago

    "I seriously doubt anyone is buying a PS3 because it runs Folding@Home better than a Mac. "

    No but it sounds like another cool bullet point for the PS3 box packaging ;)

  • zuljin #157 5 years ago

    RexRunti
    "I seriously doubt anyone is buying a PS3 because it runs Folding@Home better than a Mac."

    Some people really need to lighten up. And if you actually read what I said:
    "I think the peeps at folding@Home beg to differ."
    Suddenly they have a boost to their research, ofcourse they'll be happy. I didn't suggest it would make the general public go out and buy a PS3...

  • dirigiblebill #158 5 years ago

    'Time can't stand still for Sony you know, it's their own tough shit that they made it to the party 18 months late.'

    This is sadly true. It doesn't make any difference that when 360 debuted the best FPS it could offer (excluding Halo 2 of course) was the pretty damn generic Quake 4. M$ have become this generation's industry standard, and Sony has to out-perform them rather than tread water.

    Still I think Resistance does manage to bring its own unique flavour to the party. 40 player lag-free multiplayer sounds a hell of a lot crazier than GeoW's 8.

  • sillak #159 5 years ago


    /makes a controversial comment

  • dirigiblebill #160 5 years ago

    /rises to the bait
    /commence fanboy rantings
    /questions the fidelity of sillak's mother

  • Runtime #161 5 years ago

    Surely 40 player 'lag free' games all depend on who is hosting. Or do Sony have dedicated servers?

  • krudster #162 5 years ago

    "Good AI has nothing to do with difficulty level. Difficult AI and Good AI are two different things"

    Couldn't have put it better myself.

    For example, having completed most of GeOW on the hardest setting, I really didn't see any specific behaviour changes whatsoever. It was down to how much damage you could you take, and it's the same in pretty much every shooter ever made. The best AI I've seen in shooters have been in the original Half Life and FEAR, and to a lesser extent Halo. Far Cry wasn't bad either. The best shooters have decent AI no matter what difficulty setting you play it on.

    In most cases we'll play a game on its default settings like everyone else. If we had an entire week to devote to playing one game multiple times then we could spend several paragraphs waffling on about the nuances of each difficulty setting, but in the case of Resistance, I was left with absolutely no compulsion to sit through it again. Maybe online co-op would have made a difference on that front (like it did with Gears), but not including that particular feature was a terrible error.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 12:59

  • JYM60 #163 5 years ago

    If you want a more positive rewiew on this then check out ign. Personally I think this is way too negative, when it didn't have to be. Next time don't just dedicate a reveiw to the crap bits.

  • mash the x button #164 5 years ago

    Krudster, how is this game on "hard" difficulty?
    We've got the Microsoft employees giving their opinions, what I suspect as likely some Sony employees too.
    Can we stand back and be a bit objective please? £500 is a lot to pay for something with average games, just as whatever the 360 costs nowadays is.

  • GamesConnoisseur #165 5 years ago

    I for one will like to get Resistance only after when the PS3 price drops, rumble controller get released and supported (I am deaf so vibrating cues make all the difference to gameplay) and certainly will straight away play it on hard mode. However regarding 40 players or 8 players on GoW, the different design to both mode and how it is implemented make or break them.

    Consider 8 players in a small ish map make it very personal, you know what your team all doing and getting real up close and personal with the other side too! Chainsaw kills rocks!

    40 players can work and make it more like a warzone, but you mostly fleeting participate in and how much you would influence or direct the outcome is not as big as the 8 players. Also the issue of having all 40 onlines at same time is not good at least in the early part of PS3 life.

    So I hold back on getting PS3 also for the oft repeated reasons of price/Euro being shafted and sending message to Sony to wake up!

  • krudster #166 5 years ago

    As a rule, if you want more positive reviews of *most* game, go to other sites. I don't think people come here expecting us to fawn over anything if it doesn't deserve it. Even games we like (like Gears) deserve their fair share of criticism.

  • McBradders #167 5 years ago

    Gears deserves lots of criticism. Way more than any of the reviews have given it.


    That control system is fucking awful.

  • Dizzy #168 5 years ago

    > I really didn't see any specific behaviour changes whatsoever

    Yes and that is indeed how it should be. AI behaviour should be the same for all difficulty levels. The difficulty should be more opponents, maybe faster opponents and maybe they can have better gear not notally different behavior. The stuff I have made has certainly been like this. AI should be believable and fun at all settings!

    >That control system is fucking awful.

    ROFL. You can say many things about Gears... but the control is 100% spot on.

    >However regarding 40 players or 8 players on GoW, the different design to both mode and how it is implemented make or break them.

    Indeed... just like AI. More doesn't mean better in the case of multiplayer. Gears is a small scale squad skirmish game and Resistance is not. Maybe Gears would work in 20vs20 battles... but that is not what it was designed for. I have no problems with the number of players in online games. It all depends on the game and the design.
    Edited by 3 at 22/03/07 @ 13:13

  • Xerx3s #169 5 years ago

    This is sadly true. It doesn't make any difference that when 360 debuted the best FPS it could offer (excluding Halo 2 of course) was the pretty damn generic Quake 4. M$ have become this generation's industry standard, and Sony has to out-perform them rather than tread water.

    COD2 & Condemned never happened.

  • Xerx3s #170 5 years ago

    That control system is fucking awful IMO.

    Fixed. And I beg to differ.

  • McBradders #171 5 years ago

    Beg to differ all you like, you are all wrong.

    The internet allows me to make terrible, sweeping statements such as this!

    All hail the internet.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 13:13

  • Dizzy #172 5 years ago

    "The internet allows me to make terrible, sweeping statements such as this!

    All hail the internet. "

    All hail the ignore button!

    /waves bye
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 13:15

  • El_MUERkO #173 5 years ago

    ouch, pretty but vacant, i'll give insomniac some credit for making a launch title but much like Perfect Dark Zero and Red Steel it seems Resistance: Fall of Man failed to live up to the hype

  • McBradders #174 5 years ago

    I'll be crying myself to sleep over the loss of Dizzy's incredible retorts to facts.

  • dirigiblebill #175 5 years ago

    'COD2 & Condemned never happened.'

    Oops, forgot about them. Condemned isn't exactly an FPS, to be fair.

  • krudster #176 5 years ago

    Fact: I enjoyed Condemned far more than I enjoyed this, and that game wasn't exactly short of problems either.

  • Steroyd #177 5 years ago

    Surely 40 player 'lag free' games all depend on who is hosting. Or do Sony have dedicated servers?

    Sony does dedicated servers....
    And they're supposed to have the "cheap" online service. -_-

  • glaeken #178 5 years ago

    In the spirit of the thread I thought PDZ was much better than resistance

    /hasn’t played either of them.

  • krudster #179 5 years ago

    Sony is respectful enough not to kick off about review scores. We warned them last week this was coming, so it won't be a surprise to anyone.

  • mash the x button #180 5 years ago

    Sony are hoping the next R&C will do the business ;)

  • Latin #181 5 years ago

    IMO the AI in half life was awful (compared to now), so krudster I dunno how you mentioned that game.

    But I sort of agree with you in that as the difficulty increases the AI should be more intelligent, but at the same time there also needs to be the increased damge from opponents, less health packs etc.

    The AI will never be so good that just improving it will make the game particularly hard, for example legendary on Halo is only so hard/good because it's a combination of handicapping the player and improving the AI, but it's mostly down to handicapping the player.

    All of the above is strictly IMO

  • PearOfAnguish #182 5 years ago

    "And yes, Dead bodies is not a system seller. then again, disapearing bodies is even less so..."

    It's completely irrelevant either way.

  • Dizzy #183 5 years ago

    "The AI will never be so good that just improving it will make the game particularly hard"

    Why is it that so few people know anything about AI (and to be honest AI is not my line of business). I can make AI so hard that it will easily beat any human player (remember those early Quake bots??). It is very easy to make AI that sees you before you do, headshots you before you even have a chance to press a button and knows the whole level inside out. The trick in AI is to make it believable and the difficulty should come from more enemies and different gear (like I said before). So changing AI for difficulty should not really be done unless you add some new opponents with different AI routines in the higher difficulty settings (like commanders or snipers). The basic "flow" of the game should stay the same in all difficulty settings IMHO. That is good games design.

  • mash the x button #184 5 years ago

    No Dizzy, you are mistaken.
    Good AI should jump out willingly into your hail of gunfire and thank you at the same time.

    Edited by 2 at 22/03/07 @ 14:00

  • manuel_garcia #185 5 years ago

    @Latin: Yeah but surely you couldnt have failed to have been wowed by it at the time though? It genuinely blew me away when the little buggers scrambled for cover and worked as a unit. All basic stuff now but back then it was simply amazing.

    I think thats the key though, we haven't had a game in a while that really steps up to the plate and moves everything forward in that manner. As good as the AI in GoW and FEAR may be, neither of them leave you with anything but a 'been here, done that' feeling. Thats not to say its bad, and if you rarely play shooters then you'll doubtless be blown away by them both, but that doesnt make it any less derivitive for those that do.

    With a developer like Insomniac you would expect them to come up with something new and exciting to move stuff onwards, its a shame that they haven't.

  • Latin #186 5 years ago

    @ Dizzy

    True I totally agree but that's not what I 'meant' by good AI, I probably didn't explain it very well. What I meant was, if you had AI that didn't just sidestep into your hail of bullets, but instead did all the stuff that people really want, i.e. the flanking, teamwork, deception etc. I think that if this AI was present at all difficulty levels including easy and normal for the noobs, then you can only really improve the difficulty through traditional methods as described before.

    What you described is, to me, very bad AI that cheats.

    I don't think I'm very good at articulating arguements over the web

  • Dizzy #187 5 years ago

    >True I totally agree but that's not what I 'meant' by good AI

    Ok clear.

  • zuljin #188 5 years ago

    @Dizzy
    "and the difficulty should come from more enemies and different gear"

    I disagree. I think that on higher difficulty settings enemies should work together more to obstruct the goals of the player. Nothing annoys me more than replaying a level and because I'm now playing on hard the number of weapons and ammunition is reduced. But I guess it depends on the game really. I would absolutely expect that from survival games like Res Evil and Stalker.

  • Xerx3s #189 5 years ago

    Do a kotaku.

  • MrAtheist #190 5 years ago

    Vanilla FPS AI hasnt moved on from Half-Life. Does it really need to? What are people expecting?

    HL had soldiers that sought cover, pinned you down while their mates flanked you, ran off with comedy "Shit! Grenade!" shout when you lobbed a grenade at them...what more do you need?

  • Nippledoctor #191 5 years ago

    @Kato

    "What would you have done then?"

    Don't buy a playstation 3!

  • UncleLou #192 5 years ago

    I'd say the Half-Life 1 AI is still more impressive than the one in most other FPS games. Including Half-Life 2.

  • Dizzy #193 5 years ago

    "HL had soldiers that sought cover, pinned you down while their mates flanked you, ran off with comedy "Shit! Grenade!" shout when you lobbed a grenade at them...what more do you need? "

    Hehe.. true and false ;) The battlefield has changed. Better physics, vehicles and more interactive levels. There still is plenty AI can do extra.

  • onyxbox #194 5 years ago

    AI / Difficulty should be handled like F.E.A.R did. That was superb, and as you ramped up the difficulty it never felt unfair.

  • mkreku #195 5 years ago

    The best thing an AI ever did to me was when I was being a coward in Far Cry and hid in an air duct.. and one of the soldiers came crawling in behind me! That' has never happened in any other game I've played.

    It was such a surprise I think I accidentally shot myself dead.

  • MrAtheist #196 5 years ago

    The battlefield has changed. Better physics, vehicles and more interactive levels. There still is plenty AI can do extra.

    I think thats more a case of developers "can do extra", not AI. :)

  • Xerx3s #197 5 years ago

    HL had soldiers that sought cover, pinned you down while their mates flanked you, ran off with comedy "Shit! Grenade!" shout when you lobbed a grenade at them...what more do you need?

    Clear commanding unit that gives orders to lesser units (taking him out shows visual choas within the unit), AI peeking around corners to spot snipers, AI retreating in fear when they are getting slaughtered, AI going berserk when you piss them off, AI going for help when they see that they are outnumbered, etc., etc.

  • zuljin #198 5 years ago

    @Xerx3s
    IMO there are many games that do implement this, but they seem lacking because everything you mentioned is so very hard to interpret, since it isn't conveyed very well to the player.

    eg. 5 enemies, and I shoot one in the head. The other four storm at me.
    You could say the AI is stupid, since I'm obviously better than them and they storm me anyway, or you could say, wow they're really annoyed I just killed their mate.

    Thats what made Half life stand out to me, because the enemy radio chatter meant you not only knew what they were doing, but more importantly why.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 14:29

  • thepiedpiper #199 5 years ago

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
    ahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha
    who wants a ps3 now?

  • orakio #200 5 years ago

    my god, a 6??

  • The_Programmer #201 5 years ago

    I don't know wether anyone has previously posted this but it looks like we're not going to get the online update yet:-

    [link url=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=16 0466
    ]http://ww w.computerandvideogames.com/art...[/link]

  • Virvel #202 5 years ago

    The current situation with first person shooters having less and less innovation reminds me of the early 90's when shootemup scrolling games started to die. People were sick and tired of the same recipee being recreated in dozens of new shooters. Even throwing some extra graphic chips into the arcade machines (or consoles) creating GORGEOUS looking 2D games didnt appeal to people.

    Too many FPS games is one of the reasons I threw away my gaming PC and didnt invest in a 360: First-person games following the same old recipee is just a waste of time IMO.

    But anyway, I would give this game 7 out of 10 because of the lack of any other FPS on PS3 :)

  • krudster #203 5 years ago

    Next time I get to chat to Valve, I'm definitely going to try and pin down why HL1 AI was so good, and why so few games (HL2 included) failed to build on it. More than 8 years on, can it really be so hard to do?

  • JYM60 #204 5 years ago

    'ouch, pretty but vacant, i'll give insomniac some credit for making a launch title but much like Perfect Dark Zero and Red Steel it seems Resistance: Fall of Man failed to live up to the hype'

    Well most people who have played it would disagree. It is certainly a much better game than the other two.

  • -TKF- #205 5 years ago

    fuuuuck you!

    The Fall of Man may forever be overshadowed by the Internet's Fall of Manners, then, but this is still a solid launch title, and worthy of praise.


    or


    Put bluntly, the combat and AI is merely average, the visuals don't really wow, and the much-vaunted weaponry makes little difference to how it plays. To say we're underwhelmed is the understatement of the year.

    You should be flipping coins or hamsters instead of grading games

  • krudster #206 5 years ago

    Err, whatever you say.

  • crouchy #207 5 years ago

    People seem to be forgetting that this is meant to be a "next gen" game, on a very expensive console not the same old thing with shinier graphics.
    -----
    You sound naive in terms of computer hardware. This is a launch title a good one at that. Basically a title made with very basic development tools, the complicated cell/hardware a complete mystery, a very set date for release ie working like maniacs to get it done for launch. There second gen game though will be an entirely different matter with all those issues largely dealt with.

  • MrAtheist #208 5 years ago

    Clear commanding unit that gives orders to lesser units (taking him out shows visual choas within the unit), AI peeking around corners to spot snipers, AI retreating in fear when they are getting slaughtered, AI going berserk when you piss them off, AI going for help when they see that they are outnumbered, etc., etc.

    I agree with zuljin, that lot is pretty much down to interpretation. HL pretty much covers all those. :)

  • UncleLou #209 5 years ago

    Next time I get to chat to Valve, I'm definitely going to try and pin down why HL1 AI was so good, and why so few games (HL2 included) failed to build on it. More than 8 years on, can it really be so hard to do?

    Yes please, do that! I remember reading an interview with Valve where they said HL2 used AI routines that were more advanced than HL1's, but I really can't say I noticed it. Quite on the contrary. Maybe it was just the level design, and the marines in Half-Life 1 were tightly integrated into the level sections where they appeared.

    Anyway, I've heard a lot of people who know more about AI coding (not that that would be difficult, seeing how I know nothing about it) say very different things about the Half-Life AI - the thing is, it worked, and the only games that really surpassed it for me were FEAR and Far Cry, and maybe OFP, occasionally. Although I've been very impressed with what I've seen of STALKER's AI so far.

  • ChadNigga #210 5 years ago

    This reviewer should stick to the wii man. Come on this is DA BOM!!!!

  • Xerx3s #211 5 years ago

    IMO there are many games that do implement this, but they seem lacking because everything you mentioned is so very hard to interpret, since it isn't conveyed very well to the player.

    That's the problem isn't it? It's not just about writing good AI, it's also about communicating this to the player by means of visual action and audio. Bungie had a really good presentation about ai and this last year or so. It shows exactly what makes good ai. A good AI (imo) is not about you beating it or it beating you, it's about giving the player a good feeling of achieving something after he won. Like they had to work for it.

  • mike_mgoblue #212 5 years ago

    Resistance: Fall of Man is a game that deserves the poor 6 out of 10 review score it received.

    Resistance: Fall of Man is a game that is fast-paced, and the developers originally wanted it to run at 60 frames per second in order to play in the proper way. Generally speaking, "Run-n-Gun" fast paced games usually should run at 60 frames per second, while "Stop-n-Pop" slower-paced games work fine at 30 frames per second.

    However, at the end of the development cycle, the developers realized the Playstation 3 didn't have the power to run a smooth 60 frames per second framerate. Just look at the way Call of Duty 3 runs at 60 frames per second perfectly smooth on the Xbox 360, but the Playstation 3 version of Call of Duty 3 is terribly choppy and cannot maintain the 60 frames per second framerate.

    The developers of Resistance: Fall of Man didn't want that same sort of choppy framerate, so they lowered it to 30 frames per second late in the development, which was NOT the original goal of this game, which is why the gameplay is completely messed up.

    One of the BIGGEST flaws of Resistance: Fall of Man is that it doesn't have Online Co-Op mode like Gears of War on the Xbox 360 does. Playing Xbox 360 games with Online Co-Op modes that allow you to play through the single-player modes with a friend in games like Gears of War and Perfect Dark Zero is SO MUCH FUN!!! Online Co-Op modes make it so there is unlimited replay value in the single-player aspect of the game. It is a terrible shame that Playstation 3 games like Resistance: Fall of Man do not include Online Co-Op in that way.

    Resistance: Fall of Man really was one of the biggest disappointments for the Playstation 3, and so was Motorstorm. Motorstorm is another Playstation 3 game with a very choppy framerate that takes away from the fun, particularly when there are a a lot of cars on the screen or when the action is fast.

    Even Playstation magazines that compare games side-by-side point out that the Playstation 3 doesn't have anything that compares to Gears of War, Lost Planet, or Crackdown.

    At this point in time, the Playstation 3 is just not worth the expensive price, because it has very few exclusive games. The Xbox 360 has far more high-quality exclusive games than the Playstation 3. And every third-party game released on both systems has better graphics and more online features on the Xbox 360.

    The poor software for the Playstation 3 just isn't worth all that money. The PS3 doesn't even come with a headset, like the Xbox 360 does. Playstation 3 doesn't even come with high-definition cables.

    When you consider that games like Devil May Cry 4 are now also appearing on the Xbox 360, I want to buy the Xbox 360 version, because I have grown used to all of the cool Rumble features in the first three Devil May Cry games, and I would rather play Devil May Cry 4 with Rumble on the Xbox 360, plus I get all of the cool Achievement Points in the Xbox 360 version.

    And when you consider that companies like Namco are announcing games like Ace Combat 6 only for the Xbox 360, it makes me think the Playstation 3 may have a very short life expectancy--it might get discontinued pretty soon because of all the poor sales in North America and Japan...and probably Europe...After all, it is common knowledge that there won't be any shortages of the PS3 in Europe, because the demand just isn't high enough.

  • JYM60 #213 5 years ago

    I though that reviews normally focused on the good things, at least at the start of the review. From the first few lines I knew this was going to be a s*** fest. You barely even touch on the good things in the game. One minute you says its easy the next it is impossibly hard?????

  • mike_mgoblue #214 5 years ago

    Wasp,

    Just because it STINGS that Resistance: Fall of Man does NOT include Online Co-Op mode, and ended up with the low 6 out of 10 score it deserves does NOT make me a Microsoft employee.

    Live with it, Resistance: Fall of Man, and almost all of the Playstation 3 titles being released are poor quality.

    Playstation 3 has very few exclusive games, and most of them are very poor quality.

    Every game released on both systems is better on the Xbox 360 in terms of the graphics and online play features.

    Thinking about those facts does not make me a Microsoft employee, it just makes me an intelligent person.

  • JYM60 #215 5 years ago

    I dont think we need fanboys saying how crap the ps3 is and how much it isnt worth the cost.

    Thank you ignore poster.
    /bye bye.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 15:19

  • mike_mgoblue #216 5 years ago

    Wasp:

    Wasp, you made a comment, located on the last page. I would like to reply to what you had to say.

    First, yes, it seems that my name is Michael Zoran, just like this other person who works for Microsoft...

    Second, I would like to point out that there are times in life when people have the same name!

    Third, I went to a high-school of 750 students, and I knew THREE guys named Michael Smith, two girls named Jennifer Johnson, and two guys named Paul Brown! Just go look to a telephone book to see how many people outside of my high-school to see how many people there are with those names!

    Fourth, Microsoft has over 72,000 employees across the world!!! Just stop and think how many employees they have with the same name!!! Now, stop and think about how many of those 72,000 share the same name with people who are not employed by Microsoft! The number must be staggering!

    Fifth, the name "Zoran" is actually one of the most common names for people overseas in the areas of Hungary, Serbia, and other areas of that region.

    Sixth, the name "Michael" is one of the most common names for people in virtually every part of the world.

    Seventh, my middle name is Wayne. If that guy also has that name, then I will CRAP MY PANTS!!!

    Eighth, go look in your phonebook and see how many guys are named Michael Smith, Michael Brown, Michael Johnson, and Michael ANYTHING!!!

    But, take a look at this website; it is awesome because it sings a song and shows a music video about all of Sony's mistakes and it points out the fact that the Wii and the Xbox 360 have completely taken advantage of the FACT that Sony’s unlimited number of mistakes has killed the Playstation brand-name, just like IGN said.

    http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=R98qC0fd_1w

  • crouchy #217 5 years ago

    The sad fact of the matter is that PS3 fanboys are so desperate to justify the worth of the PS3 to everyone (as well as themselves) that they are clinging to Resistance and Motorstorm, under the misguided delusions that they alone warrant the purchase of a PS3 at this point.

    Resistance looks so completely generic and boring, and I'm not suprised to see it get a 6. Don't forget that EG have said that they value originality and innovation over all else. It's the reason they gave Gears Of War an 8 when everyone else was giving it 9s and 10s.

    Strip away the slightly interseting setting and weapons of Resistance and you're left with an FPS that plays like one from five years ago. Hardly a shining example of what the 'next-gen' PS3 can do, is it?
    ---
    The ps3 is just launching. Things will become crystal clear by the end of this year. The proof will be in the pudding.

  • JYM60 #218 5 years ago

    mike_mgoblue
    Read through some of your s*** fest again. God help me! How can someone be so annoyed at no online co-op. Jesus mate!!! Least it lasts more than 5 hours!!!!!

    You are really sad now please fuck off!!!!! Back to Gates.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 15:22

  • Dizzy #219 5 years ago

    Damn.. this thread turned nasty again and I thought the AI discussion was going well :)

    /outa here

  • Carrybagma #220 5 years ago

    Nice to see people popping out and saying Half-Life AI was brilliant. I had assumed that I was an old fart and didn't play enough games, 'cos I don't know of anything better (I haven't played Fear, but Far-Cry was good, 'til my card went bang).

    For all I know, the HL AI could have been faked with carefully scripted sequences, but even if it was, it means the design was even better than I had first thought. Being backed into a corner on that first warehouse, and then being flushed out with grenades is still one of my stand-out, jaw-dropping videogame moments.

    BTW - as soon as someone starts defending a game by saying "you should try it on hard (/brutal/legendary/etc)", you know there's something amiss.

  • Calo #221 5 years ago

    COME ON WIPEOUT! SAVE THE PS3 FOR ME!

  • Carrybagma #222 5 years ago

    Oh no.
    The most boring Xealot troll in the history of Xealot trolls is back.
    Z
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    Someone - please! - pull my fingernails out, so that I can remain conscious a while longer.

  • andromeda #223 5 years ago

    from the guardian newspaper

    "But even Sony chief executive Howard Stringer has admitted that the £425 price tag could simply be out of the league of many gamers. He told the CEO Exchange TV programme in America: "If we fail, it is because we positioned PS3 sales as the Mercedes of the videogame field"


    mercedes, heh

  • mkreku #224 5 years ago

    I think Singstar (with CHEAP downloadable songs!!) could make me want a Playstation 3.. That said though:

    BOYCOTT THE PS3!

  • Dizzy #225 5 years ago

    "For all I know, the HL AI could have been faked with carefully scripted sequences"

    It wasn't. When HL1 came out developers were giving demos of the AI by placing random marines and random aliens in a room with crates. They always changed the locations of the crates and the battle was always different. I remember that blew people away at the time ;) Halo series has had very similar and equally awesome AI routines. HL2 wasn't bad, but the complexity of the "world" pointed out some weak spots in the AI. That is a bit of a problem right now. Complex worlds need much smarter AI. Enemies need to climb, jump, move stuff, see through windows (or break them), drive vehicles.....
    Sadly a lot of devs do not invest enough time in experienced AI people (my University has an AI PHD and sadly only a few CS people take it, most take computer graphics). You cannot see good AI in screenshots so it doesn't impress the marketing suits :(

  • zuljin #226 5 years ago

    @Xerx3s
    "A good AI (imo) is not about you beating it or it beating you, it's about giving the player a good feeling of achieving something after he won. Like they had to work for it."

    I fully agree. HL was the first game for me that combined this "work" with fun. I'll be heading over to Devstation later on in April, and I honestly do hope thats something they'll cover in their AI seminar. All this reminds me of Hitman. I absolutely love Hitman, but there are so many times I feel the AI is absolutely inbred. They really could do with conveying better to the player what enemies are thinking.

    EDIT: @Dizzy
    "You cannot see good AI in screenshots so it doesn't impress the marketing suits :("
    Occasionally you see a glimmer tho... When you watch the trailer for the Darkness, you can see one of his creatures attack another human with a pneumatic drill! If that is not scripted, then that is just awesome!
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 15:36

  • WiseNail #227 5 years ago

    I liked the fact the PD0 had multiplayer bots, they give you a chance to learn the levels quicker when you're new to the game. I wish Epic (with all their Unreal Tournament experience) had brought these to Gears of War.

  • UncleLou #228 5 years ago

    Sadly a lot of devs do not invest enough time in experienced AI people (my University has an AI PHD and sadly only a few CS people take it, most take computer graphics).

    And when a dev does, many people say the game is crap because it doesn't have pretty setpieces. :-|

    /hugs FEAR

  • Lukus #229 5 years ago

    Crikey. The review makes it sound worse than a 6.

  • Moggo #230 5 years ago

    I think it's great that EG stuck to their guns and maintained their integrity. Nice work.

  • UltimateGold #231 5 years ago

    Bollox, the online side of the game warrants an 8 by itself
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 16:00

  • JYM60 #232 5 years ago

    @Kato
    I dind't ignore you. At least you had something to say. It was mike_mgoblue talking about his childhood or some crap like that.

  • Amazing Bryan #233 5 years ago

    6/10. LOL. Don't cry, it'll all be over soon.

  • miiiguel #234 5 years ago

    Tip: why doesn't EG post a review for the atheists, and then a personalized review for the Church of Sony ? with a title like "RFoM bestest game ever" and "GoW even worse than Killzone!!"

    Krudster would have a few more friends.

  • smelly #235 5 years ago

    So.. another crap ps3 game then? Ps3 is t'doomed!!!!

    (and all the other posts people post on games which get 6/10)

  • tonynibbles #236 5 years ago

    Why is everyone so het up over this?

    It's *one* game! Over hyped, sure - worth a 6? Maybe not - 7, yeh.
    But it's one game.

    MotorStorm is awesome. Go buy that and Virtua Fighter 5.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 16:04

  • smelly #237 5 years ago

    >It's one game! Ober hyped, sure - worth a 6? Maybe not - 7, yeh.


    I take it you've played it to get to that score?

  • miiiguel #238 5 years ago

    yes, yes..., and with Home one can quit his day job and become an interior designer. Who cares about gaming anyway?

    It's a Sony!

  • KoenigMKII #239 5 years ago

    I think the scoring system of 1-10 is too all or nothing. Why doesn't Eurogamer change to using decimals as well?

    Them you could be less harsh, but stll mark a game lower if required. i.e. a 6.8 or 7.2 for the solo R.F.O.M. ?

    A 6 sounds like you chaingunned it to death, dissolved it in acid and spat it out!!! :-)

    Did I miss it or did the review not tell the reader what difficulty level it was reviewed at? I got the feeling that krudster is actually a damn good FPS player - that may give a slightly different edge to the review.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 16:12

  • Paulanator #240 5 years ago

    Guys, just face it.

    Resistance isn't as good as you want to be.

    @JYM60

    Calm down, and remember: If you want shit FPSs buy a PS3. If you want good FPSs buy a 360.

    Simple as that!!!

  • frod. #241 5 years ago

    comment 129 is the best

  • JYM60 #242 5 years ago

    @Paulanator
    Surely you ment if you just want fps get a 360. ;)

  • krudster #243 5 years ago

    As with more or less every game, it gets reviewed at the Normal setting. Any game that needs to be played on harder settings has some serious problems right there. Hard should be there for players who've finished it, loved it, and want a bigger challenge.

    Over the past year I've probably *completed* about 40 shooters, but I wouldn't say I'm a particularly good player. Just dogged and persistent. If anyone wants to verify that by going back through the review archives and checking, be my guest (you can also check the XBL gamerscore for the 360 specifics).

  • JonFE #244 5 years ago

    Totally off-topic:
    "Next time I get to chat to Valve, I'm definitely going to try and pin down why HL1 AI was so good, and why so few games (HL2 included) failed to build on it. More than 8 years on, can it really be so hard to do?"

    Please go ahead and do it. Should make an interesting read for people who were totally impressed by HL1 AI and still judge other games AI by these high standards (like me :).



    Edit: Seems that UncleLou beat me to it by... hmm... err... 1.5 hours...
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 16:34

  • weaselrat #245 5 years ago

    Resistance sucks balls. Yeehaaaaaa

  • miiiguel #246 5 years ago

    I also don't get why so much hanger towards this review, while Church of Sony followers spent a whole year bragging that FPS's are the scum of video-gaming, than their Holy Grail finally sees the light of day, and they all want a FPS.

  • BrokenSymmetry #247 5 years ago

    krudster said: "If anyone wants to verify that by going back through the review archives and checking, be my guest (you can also check the XBL gamerscore for the 360 specifics). "

    Checked your XBL gamerscore (at least if your gamertag is krudster as well), and that sure is a lot of shooters you've played!

  • miiiguel #248 5 years ago

    damn hate this kinda of jealous feeling, guy has VT3 allready...

  • TheJanitor #249 5 years ago

    if gow got an 8, resistance shouldn't get less than that. gow is just as generic.

    and so are other games that still get 9's from eurogamer.
    stupid, stupid scores.

  • miiiguel #250 5 years ago

    comparing GoW to RFoM is like comparing ManUtd to Chelsea, the later is a wannabe, it lacks panache...

  • zuljin #251 5 years ago

    "Gears of War is a better game, check metacritic, it's a well known FACT."
    Hmm. There I was thinking that enjoying a game was a matter of opinion. Guess I must be wrong, it's a FACT after all. ;)

  • GamesConnoisseur #252 5 years ago

    MetaCritic is not telling us if we can enjoy game or not, some will enjoy playing Barbie Doll videogame, it is a matter of personal opinion. BUT Metacritic is a good guide of what the collective opinions of reviewers via magazine, specialist press and so on.

    It is an opinion of TheJanitor that Resistance is as good as GoW, he is entitled to one but according to MetaCritic he is in a minority! Changing his mind or he attempting to change ours would be fruitless exercise.

    I for one will want to try out Resistance but anticipated that it would not be that great so would probably enjoy it more! It does have plus points but IMO not better than GoW.

  • oldergamer #253 5 years ago

    I agree with those who've already finished Resistance... 6/10 is unfair. My wife and I had a blast playing it. Currently halfway through Motorstorm and just starting Oblivion.

  • smelly #254 5 years ago

    oblivion on the ps3 isnt out yet?

  • zuljin #255 5 years ago

    @smelly
    "oblivion on the ps3 isnt out yet?"
    Technically Resistance is only out tomorrow (tonight)... But those of us who know people that worked on the game/vid game reviewers/easily bribed GAME employees sometimes get a bit of a head start :)

    Not speaking for oldergamer here tho, just myself...

  • zuljin #256 5 years ago

    @Kato
    "does that not make it Fact that it is a more enjoyable (hence better) game? What other way is there to gage it?"

    No it does not. Some people might find Resistance a better game, so that automatically makes these people wrong? Game creation is an art form, and cannot be determined simply as "this game is better than this game". Thats like saying McDonalds is better than Burger King... It's just a matter of personal opinion.

    I enjoyed both by the way, and if I went back in time, I'd probably rebuy both.

  • crouchy #257 5 years ago

    To say FEAR, GRAW 2, and COD3 are better than Resistance clearly indicates to me that the reviewer is retarded.

  • krudster #258 5 years ago

    To call me retarded for having an opinion is the really retarded thing, sir.

  • krudster #259 5 years ago

    Yep, lock me up and throw away the key.

  • monkey-ken-wizard #260 5 years ago

    Weird review - its all rubbish now?
    Have Sony cut their advertising budget or something?
    EG will be calling Gears of War a good game next ;)

  • Inquisitor #261 5 years ago

    I can't see my posts in the forum :(

  • Carrybagma #262 5 years ago

    Well, this thread is well on it's way down the shitter now, so I may as post a list of 360 games.

    Alan Wake
    Bioshock
    Forza Motorsport 2
    Halo 3
    Mass Effect
    Alone in the Dark
    Assassin's Creed
    Blue Dragon
    Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
    Bullet Witch
    Burnout 5
    Crackdown
    Eternal Sonata
    Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
    Grand Theft Auto IV
    Haze
    Lost Planet
    Medal of Honor Airborne
    Resident Evil 5
    Shadowrun
    The Darkness
    Too Human

    There.

  • smelly #263 5 years ago

    "Technically Resistance is only out tomorrow (tonight)... But those of us who know people that worked on the game/vid game reviewers/easily bribed GAME employees sometimes get a bit of a head start :) "


    But I thought oblivion's launch has been put back by a month due to it not being finished yet?

  • smelly #264 5 years ago

    @zuljin:
    ""oblivion on the ps3 isnt out yet?"
    Technically Resistance is only out tomorrow (tonight)... But those of us who know people that worked on the game/vid game reviewers/easily bribed GAME employees sometimes get a bit of a head start :) "


    Erm, but i thought oblivion had been postponed by a month due to it not being finished yet?

    I can understand you getting a game 2 days early.. but a month early?? Something tells me you're talking porky pies.

  • Dr.Mott #265 5 years ago

    Well, I'm about to go to sleep now, so I'm nice and ready for midnight. I'll be getting this and Motorstorm, possibly VF5 if the missus lets me.

  • patlike #266 5 years ago

    Sorry, comments glitch. We're back now.

  • simo #267 5 years ago

    300+ comments, and no sign of JediMasterMalik. The world has officially gone mad.

  • Carrybagma #268 5 years ago

    You mean, 300+ comments and the thread has only just warmed up!

  • Xerx3s #269 5 years ago

    (and all the other posts people post on games which get 6/10)

    The irony must not be wasted on you. ;)

  • Steroyd #270 5 years ago

    Wow this is still going. o_O

  • smelly #271 5 years ago

    you know.. if everyone who posted here bought a ps3, then they wouldnt be in so much trouble :-)

  • SeesThroughAll #272 5 years ago

    Like everyone reading the site, we all have differences of opinion, and these solidify with the passing of time. Since Resistance came out in the US, we've had Gears of War, FEAR on 360, Call of Duty 3, Rainbow Six Vegas, STALKER and GRAW 2. All of these games are, in my opinion, streets ahead of Resistance, so giving it a 7 seemed to imply that it's almost as good as these games, when it's really not even close.

    So, are you also implying that Doom on the XBLA (9/10) is still better than Gears Of War (8/10)? Maybe you should re-review every single shooter as well.
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 19:38

  • JediMasterMalik #273 5 years ago

    I've been at uni all day. Didn't realise I was such a celeb. Krud is allowed his opinion. I'm gonna go with metacritic until I've beaten the game. Should have it finished by monday unless I can't finish my work soon.

    I actually played Motorstorm though at MnS straight efter Uni, it looks bloody gorgeous, and the motion sensing does work. I can see why some people don't like it though, it's difficult to use when you lose control of your vehicle, and requires rather subtle movements. Alot of fun though, the crashes are incredible.

  • HelloWorld #274 5 years ago

    To mark this down for lack of innovation seems fairly reasonable. To mark this down for lack of innovation and not do the same for VF5 the other day seems like lunacy.
    I understand that scores don't really matter though, and I get your point.

  • krudster #275 5 years ago

    Doom was a £6 re-issue. People need to get it into their heads that a dirt cheap re-release of a classic can't be compared to a game costing eight times as much.

  • SeesThroughAll #276 5 years ago

    smelly:
    Erm, but i thought oblivion had been postponed by a month due to it not being finished yet?

    My guess is, they're probably tinkering with their game assets because of that Home thing and (maybe?) Sony finally communicated to them the PSN inner workings.

    Having the game unfinished at this stage is simply impossible.

  • JediMasterMalik #277 5 years ago

    @krdu - Why re-review the game when it's exactly the same as the import version? Is it a timing thing?

  • Les #278 5 years ago

    I don't really see the score drop explained in the review, strange... But anyway, I don't like shooters and I don't care what score EG (or any reviewer) assigns.

  • Scimarad #279 5 years ago

    This is so fucking pathetic! Instead of discussing the bloody game what we have, as sodding usual, is a thread full of losers trying to assure themselves they bought the right console.

    It's so truly embarrasing to be a gamer at the moment....

  • urizen #280 5 years ago

    @ Scimarad, you're right of course - but the thread did yield a pretty interesting discussion of AI in shooters.

    Why oh why in AI discussions does no one mention the underrated gem Sniper Elite? Among the best AI I've encountered in a, erm, budget game set in war torn Berlin.

  • smelly #281 5 years ago

    SeesThroughAll:

    "My guess is, they're probably tinkering with their game assets because of that Home thing and (maybe?) Sony finally communicated to them the PSN inner workings. "

    Yes, but that guy claims he's playing it.. Which was kinda my point :-)

  • smelly #282 5 years ago

    In other news:

    Excite Truck vs Motorstorm:

    [link url=http://www.twitchguru.com/2007/03/22/excite_truc k_vs_motorstorm/
    ]http://ww w.twitchguru.com/2007/03/22/exc...[/link]

  • Prophet_Hero #283 5 years ago

    The US version of Oblivion was released on Tuesday. I suppose with Fedex shipping...

  • Scythe #284 5 years ago

    Strangely almost every other review I've read about this game compliments the AI and says that the game has really good AI. Hell even gamespot came up with:
    "What helps to distinguish Resistance from other first-person shooters is the quality of its weapon design, its enemy artificial intelligence, and its presentation. While these aspects of the game are not substantially different or vastly superior to what's been done before, they're right up there with the best of what such games have had to offer."
    and
    "you'll be fighting squads of Chimeran hybrids. Typically armed with bullseye rifles, these soldiers are quite effective at using cover, as well as flanking and rushing tactics. They'll also flush you out of hiding with one of their hedgehog grenades, which send deadly needles flying in every direction when they explode."
    And this is GAMESPOT.

    So considering this reviewer made it a POINT of stating the AI wasn't very good at all and that it was very generic ... it kinda makes you wonder ...

  • zuljin #285 5 years ago

    @smelly
    "I can understand you getting a game 2 days early.. but a month early?? Something tells me you're talking porky pies."
    Nope don't even follow Oblivion (anymore). Got it for PC aaaages ago. Was only refering to Resistance. Sorry if that came out unclear.

    @Kato
    "So if I told you I thought LittleBritain was better than Okami (or whatever), are you saying you wouldn't "automatically" consider me wrong?"
    No I wouldn't. I'd think you had different tastes in media to myself. Its just like people thinking Resistance should have had a higher/lower score, people have different opinions of what constitutes a good game. But 10 people liking game A and 2 people liking game B doesn't make A better...

    But I'm repeating myself, guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one...

  • BartonFink #286 5 years ago

    @Jedi - he explained this earlier. The other one was by a different reviewer and games like Gears and CoD3 have come out since. So in the context of what has happened since it's still just an above average shooter.

  • JediMasterMalik #287 5 years ago

    Fair enough. Just wanted to know.

  • Steroyd #288 5 years ago

    @Scrimrad

    I didn't read the last 100 comments but there were some pretty good discussions.

    I just question the re-review in general why go out of the way to review the exact game twice if there's zero difference between US and EU versions at least include the updates that got released today.

    Or spend that time re-reviewing Motorstorm which does have added stuff for the EU region.

  • freedumb #289 5 years ago

    The reviews are from 2 different people. They run the website, they decide which titles can have alternating viewpoints; get over it, or write your own reviews.
    Edited by 3 at 22/03/07 @ 22:21

  • bicky316 #290 5 years ago

    Can we have another review of Worms please? 6/10 was so harsh!

  • J_C_X #291 5 years ago

    Take it from me wait a while before you buy a PS3 as I can gaurantee you will be dissapointed.

  • krudster #292 5 years ago

    We (i.e. Tom) will update the Motor Storm review with the online stuff early next week. I think it's an impressive demonstration of some of the new tech, but it hasn't grabbed me enough to want to review it. Personally, even as a fan of arcade driving games, I wouldn't buy it. That said, it's probably one I'd suggest most people check out.

  • UltimateGold #293 5 years ago

    Other weapons, like the Bullseye, do add something to the gameplay, but it's marketing spin gone mad to suggest that it adds more than an increment of an increment. Being able to 'tag' someone and duck around a corner and giggle as your bullets get drawn to your hapless victim is an undeniably cool moment, but it's a novelty that wears off pretty quickly (besides, you soon realise that it's just as effective to pick them off as you normally would, which is kind of where such innovations fade into the background).

    Sorry but this last paragraph sums up the review for me. After 4 months of offline and online play I can assure you that the bullseye is NOT a marketing spin. It is the most effective weapon in the game. I am so bored of the rocket launcher wins all scenario. The bullseye changes that. Turn a corner, see a guy with rocket launcher, tag his arse , run and shoot!
    IMO, the review is not representitive of long term play and no indepth review of online. six out of ten is a disgrace. shame on you.

  • agparrot #294 5 years ago

    *decides liked 'splitters 2 more than splitters 1, so will wait for resistance 2*
    Edited by 1 at 22/03/07 @ 23:05

  • smelly #295 5 years ago

    "Can we have another review of Worms please? 6/10 was so harsh!"


    LMFAO!!

    (oh wait, you WERENT being serious were you?)

  • davisorle #296 5 years ago

    Glad I actually saw this! Wasn't this tittle supposed to be "THE TITTLE"??? lol

  • effinwooly #297 5 years ago

    i thought this was sonys AAA launch title, no ?

  • bicky316 #298 5 years ago

    ""Can we have another review of Worms please? 6/10 was so harsh!"


    LMFAO!!

    (oh wait, you WERENT being serious were you?) "

    Serious about 6/10 being harsh? Yes
    Serious about a re-review? No!

    I bought it and love it. And guess what folks? Thats what REALLY matters
    Edited by 1 at 23/03/07 @ 00:54

  • floppylobster #299 5 years ago

    So how's the UK launch going? Here's the update on the one in Sydney...

    http://ww w.smh.com.au/news/games/playsta...

  • messiahtj #300 5 years ago

    Hahahahahaha, resistance fall of man got a 6/10 in this page call eurogamer????.........hahahahahaha, i now see why sony treat like shit to the europeans.....because of people like the staff in eurogamer.......this is sad and ridicouly stupid..........and now see too why this page nobody take it seriously in US......hahaha, good one eurogamer, u show the worl the unprofessional that you are.

  • tingletanglebob #301 5 years ago

    Ive played this i think 6 is about right it ok its not great just about average compared to a lot of other shooters that are about

  • Pooley #302 5 years ago

    I really enjoyed this game, it's been one of the few games over the past couple of months that I've played right through to the end.

    That said, I don't play that many FPS's, as I've always been spoilt by HL1 and 2, and Far Cry.

    I really liked the weapons, especially the Bullseye and the Auger, and found some of the bad guys to be really evil, i.e. the Stalker's. I did play this game on Hard difficulty, which probably added to the longevity quite a bit. It took me well over a week, in total about 20 hours I'd say, to get to the end.

    I've never tried the multiplayer, as I have an Asian copy. I'm looking forward to downloading the patch that'll allow me to play this on any server.

    To be honest, I'm glad I played this game before reading any reviews so I could make my own mind up. I liked it, and I'm sure most people would enjoy it also.

  • mike_mgoblue #303 5 years ago

    Playstation 3 is yet another Sony product that won't be around very long; it isn't a secure investment.

    Playstation 3 wasn't designed as a games machine, it was designed as a "Computer Entertainment System" that plays games.

    That is why the Playstation 3 SUCKS so bad at playing games.

    I think Sony should leave the videogame hardware industry in the same way that Sega did, like many of the rumors circulating are now suggesting.

  • dredd97 #304 5 years ago

    @ mike_mgoblue

    you claim your not an MS employee, but everytime you open your mouth you just confirm what we already know...

    please don't insult us by claiming your not what you actually are...

    every statement, every word is a slagging off of sony, if you were a balanced 'gamer' your opinions would reflect this... all your 'opinions' scream 'MS employee'...

  • Genji #305 5 years ago

    /whistles

    Wow. Almost 350!

  • Les #306 5 years ago

    "you claim your not an MS employee, but everytime you open your mouth you just confirm what we already know..."

    The sad guy has been identified as a sorry MS employee and wikipedia vandaliser in other threads. It's almost worth getting a PS3 just to annoy the wretched guy...

    To all the silly people arguing over the score: read a couple of reviews of the game (as in the text, not the score assigned at the top or bottom of the page) and if what's in there appeals to you, go get the game. If not, don't.

    And if you're bothered by people making fun of you because you buy a new console to play this game, maybe the fact that there were also people buying a new console just to play PD0 can be a little consolation. But of course, in the first place, you shouldn't be bothered by what other (in most cases stupid) people say. So maybe getting some therapy would be the best solution for you and society in general...

  • Scimarad #307 5 years ago

    I'd just like to say that I wasn't infering Krudster was wrong in rating it a 6, just that I disagreed and so did a lot of other people. Reviews are all about personal opinion, and generally comments threads are all about putting across your own opinion.

    What I was trying to get across was that I enjoyed this game greatly and think it would appeal to a lot of other people as well. Judging from what Krudster said both in the review and in the comments I suspect it is less likely to appeal to hardcore FPS fans.

    Some people just can't grasp the fact that more than one opinion can be valid - Then again a lot of the idiots just 'think' : 6 out of 10 review score = excuse to bash console.
    Edited by 1 at 23/03/07 @ 08:33

  • Genji #308 5 years ago

    To be fair, though, the PS3 *is* pretty shit.

  • Xerx3s #309 5 years ago

    Doom was a £6 re-issue. People need to get it into their heads that a dirt cheap re-release of a classic can't be compared to a game costing eight times as much.

    Well that and the fact that it is timeless pick-up-and-play fun. I still play it, me mates play it even me 4yo nephew and niece play it. That gameplay never gets old.

    I bought it and love it. And guess what folks? That's what REALLY matters

    Hear hear. Who cares what other people think about this? the reviewer just gave his penny about this. But if you played it and think it's T3H B0MB, it doesn't matter right?

    you claim your not an MS employee, but everytime you open your mouth you just confirm what we already know...

    please don't insult us by claiming your not what you actually are...

    every statement, every word is a slagging off of sony, if you were a balanced 'gamer' your opinions would reflect this... all your 'opinions' scream 'MS employee'...

    Wow, you really have solid evidence there. Oh and something about irony.

    I always knew he was wrong, but does this mean Krudster and Shinji are gonna fight? :D

    I'm willing to pay for the next EGTV episode if that is covered. XD

  • Genji #310 5 years ago

    "It's blinkered fanboys like you who I just can't stand! How the hell can you call the PS3 "pretty"? :p"

    Aha. You saw my joke and raised me one further!

    Well played!

  • Scimarad #311 5 years ago

    I'd pay NOT to see that;-)

  • Azazel #312 5 years ago

    I think it takes a pretty special fps to get me or anyone else who's been playing them for the last 10-12 odd years solid to get excited by one any more.

  • Steve007 #313 5 years ago

    This game is rubbish!

    Resistance: Fall of Man isn't even a patch on Call of Duty 2 which launched with the 360 about 18 months ago. Crap controls, crap graphics, crap story, crap sound, enemies just appearing out of nowhere, wanky AI, shite level design etc. How the hell this wankfest is scoring over 4 out of 10 is beyond me. Absolute shit! Do yourself a favour and avoid this toss piece.

  • drumbaby #314 5 years ago

    Well, I played the first couple of demo levels, braving the gamepad scheme in the process, and I'm buying it. Great fun, and in a world where the lamentable HL2 gets a 10 (wtf?), it must certainly be worth more than 6.5.

  • -TKF- #315 5 years ago

    So i checked, i read what other people think about this game, and plenty of them read this review as well.........

    The conclusion is that this game is VASTLY underated and this review is just plain wrong. Am i getting the impression that Eurogamer is given Sony the shaft because they came home Shocked and Awed by the 05 E3 presentation?

  • simo #316 5 years ago

    Jesus H Christ, are the Sony fanboy tards still foaming at the mouth over this review score? EG don't like it much, boo-hoo. I suggest you pick up your soother, and move on with your life. Assuming you have one, of course.

  • jmcoo7 #317 5 years ago

    6 out of ten lol are they just plain stupid . Ive thoroughly enjoyed the single player campaign . Now enjoying online games which i have never done b4 superb should be 9/10 in my opinion .

  • bdc #318 5 years ago

    Er, no? It's the most fucking generic shooter I've ever played on.

  • Apologie #319 4 years ago

    I think sometimes people at Eurogamer have no credibility... the score they gave to these game is pathetic

  • Grayvern #320 4 years ago

    FPS games, most of us play nowhere near as many as professional/ semi-professional reviewers, therefore to criticise a game for being generic lacks ecological validity in that it can be apllied to many gamers.

    As an aside Gears of War, and Graw arent technically in competition due to their (mostly) 3rd person nature.

    The only thing that I noticed with Resistance so far is that it lacks the intensity of Half Life 2 and Call of Duty 2 but this doesant mean it deserves less than an 7 its a game with a consistent atmosphere, it doesn't however deliver that wow factor seen in many call of duty 2 stages but in the end they're only tricks to cover up the fact that all the call of duty games are antiquated shooting galleries.

    On a final note the single player campaign for resistance is better than that of Halo 3 although that speaks more of Bungies complacency than anything else.
    Edited by 3 at 14/01/08 @ 11:18

  • Zappa #321 4 years ago

    wow eurogamer really does suck.

  • Retro_ #322 1 year ago

    After listening to Insomniacs recent podcast about R:FOM I thought Id have a ganders at the reviews on Metacritic. Lo and behold, Eurogamer stands almost alone with it's lowly 6/10. Anyway, I still play R:FOM online with my mates once a month and still really enjoy it. The Online side really has stood the test of time, it's silky smooth and utterly bonkers and the single player campaign is really atmospheric if a little generic, the colour tone, much frowned upon at the time by many was a fine idea ( i think)

    Anyhow, I just wanted to say......6/10 ......my arse! lol!

  • captain_sugg #323 7 months ago

    The update patch takes fully 15 minutes to download and apply itself and the postboxes are totally misplaced. 6/10

    LOL