We want to go head to head with PS3 - Microsoft

By Games Industry.biz Published 10 November, 2006

They're bored of waiting.

Microsoft may be happy with a second Christmas without next-generation competition from Sony, but it wants to go head-to-head with its rival so that consumers can finally compare the two console offerings.

Speaking exclusively to our sister site GamesIndustry.biz, Xbox boss Neil Thompson also stated that he only sees Nintendo's Wii as a product that will compete with 360 in the most basic sense this Christmas – as a product that may steal consumer pounds.

When asked about Microsoft's reaction to the news that the PS3 would not launch in Europe this side of Christmas, Thompson replied: "In some ways it would have been good if it had, because then people could have really made the comparison. Sometimes it's worse when you're fighting a myth, than when you're fighting reality."

"In a lot of ways we'd like people to put the system side-by-side and see whether people want a platform where they're paying for Blu-ray straight away. Is Blu-ray that important to you that you want to buy into that platform right now and spend GBP 500 doing that? Or do you want a gaming system that has more high-definition gaming content today, has a better online service and provides you the choice of whether you want to upgrade to the next-generation of DVD platform in the future?"

"We would have quite liked to have gone head-to-head on those issues because we feel very strongly that we have an incredibly compelling offering," he added.

And despite Nintendo warning retail channels its Wii console may sell out in Europe this Christmas, Thompson is adamant that the new system will not encroach on Microsoft's space.

"It has the potential of taking consumers spend and wallet share away from us in general, but at a product comparison level it's not competing with us at all. It's an innovative, low-definition product," said Thompson.

"People will make a clear decision as to whether they want that sort of product - a kid's toy - or they want high-definition gaming and entertainment and all that it brings."

"They are only a competitor in so much as they'll take consumers pounds and I'd like to have as many of those as I can," he concluded.

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  • Carlo #1 5 years ago

    Sony want to put it off as long as possible so they can say their console is a next gen one, whereby MS's is the previous Gen.

    Barmy I know, but there it is.

  • gamingdave #2 5 years ago

    "Sometimes it's worse when you're fighting a myth, than when you're fighting reality."

    very true, but in the case of Sony, they will still be batteling the myth even once the machines released. They are masters at spin and publicity.

  • Carlo #3 5 years ago

    ""People will make a clear decision as to whether they want that sort of product - a kid's toy - or they want high-definition gaming and entertainment and all that it brings.""

    Kids toy. How asinine!

  • Blerk #4 5 years ago

    Sometimes I think Microsoft talk about the PS3 just as much as Sony do.

  • gizmo #5 5 years ago

    Here we go...

  • Canadian_Mike #6 5 years ago

    It must be nice to just lose money for 5+ years straight and still be able to pretend you've got a sucessful product on your hands.

  • SeesThroughAll #7 5 years ago

    very true, but in the case of Sony, they will still be batteling the myth even once the machines released. They are masters at spin and publicity.

    So what? So are Microsoft. And even worse at that, actually.

  • Guff-Pipe #8 5 years ago

    Im not getting any of these consoles anyway. Im getting a Samiad for Christmas.

  • KD #9 5 years ago

    Its all just getting like the promotion to a boxing match, Don King be out next backing some console

  • peterfll #10 5 years ago

    Some valid points to make, I would prefer to see the PS3 alongside the 360 too to see how it shapes up. I've heard the hype from both sides, now let's see it in action.

    Whilst the Wii is something fairly different only time will tell if Mr Thompson will look very very stupid by labeling it as a "kids toy".

  • Nobuo #11 5 years ago

    As uncool as it is to concur with Yellowtruck (no offense), he's probably right on that one, for better or for worse.

  • peterfll #12 5 years ago

    @Nobuo

    Yes, if it weren't for the fact that he must be top of the EG ignore list and constantly use his "M$" phrases etc, a lot of people will miss he had a valid point once in a while.

  • Foxclose #13 5 years ago

    PS2 still is got some 10/10 content to go! Beat that first MSFT!
    Edited by 1 at 10/11/06 @ 17:05

  • Turrican #14 5 years ago

    Its looking increasingly likely that Microsoft needs a third xmas to actually deliver killer titles to its console. Xmas 2007 will be the real war of the consoles, I'll be interested to see if the Wii sneaks in and whups the both of them. I certainly know a lot of people who are planning to buy that 'kids machine' this xmas.

  • Eighthours #15 5 years ago

    "Kids' toy".

    Oh Neil, you were doing so well until you said that. What an idiotic comment.

  • JetSetWilly #16 5 years ago

    "a kid's toy"

    Viva Pinata?

  • Psychotext #17 5 years ago

    The 360 can't beat the PS2. They're in a completely different market. Hell, the PS3 wont outsell the PS2 in the first year even if availability was there. It's one thing getting someone to pay £100... it's quite another getting them to pay £300 or more.
    Edited by 1 at 10/11/06 @ 17:09

  • zozart #18 5 years ago

    I inhaled sharply when I read the "kid's toy" comment. As someone said earlier, it wasn't a bad press release until he went and said that.

    Because, yes, Viva Pinata.

  • linkster #19 5 years ago

    Can hardly blame him for the kid's toy line. It worked so well against the Cube that people quickly came to believe it. MS really cannot afford to lose a single sale to Nintendo this Xmas, and they fucking well know it.

  • absolutezero #20 5 years ago

    I hope to god the PS3 is better seeing as its coming out a year after the 360.

  • Steroyd #21 5 years ago

    The 360 can't beat the PS2. They're in a completely different market.

    o_O
    How are they in different markets, if they're after the same consumer.

    Speaking of which PS3 being able to play past, present and future PS2 titles, makes the PS2 outselling the PS3 a moot point, because that means less sales for MS.

    So far MS hasn't done enough over the past year to make the PS2 seem like old crippled tech that you NEED to upgrade to a better console this christmas.

    MS needs to battle the Playstation name not the PS3 itself per se, because this PS2 - PS3 tag team is just not helping MS sell their Xbox 360 as much as they could have... and they know it.

  • Xerx3s #22 5 years ago

    "People will make a clear decision as to whether they want that sort of product - a kid's toy - or they want high-definition gaming and entertainment and all that it brings."

    Ninty is not ONLY for children ffs! Tjees...

  • JediMasterMalik #23 5 years ago

    It may not be a kids toy, but it's hardly the most serious console coming out. It's definitely more about pure fun than the experience of a video game. Which is good, as long as they don't try to make it what it isn't.

    As for the article, I think that the PS2 will still sell strong for quite a while, hell they sold quite a few thousand PSOnes in the UK alone last year, the PS2 will probably last just as long if not longer.

  • Oasis #24 5 years ago

    I don't see the Wii as direct competition for the Xbox 360 at all. Okay, techincally, it kind of is. But then, so is a mountain bike, if consumer A decides they'd rather have a mountain bike for Christmas than an Xbox 360. In reality, customers who have their sights set on improving their tech will be turned off the Wii within a moments glance. Similarly, customers who aren't so concerned with improving tech will almost be as likely to get a cheap PS2 or Xbox as get a Wii. It's in a different mindshare space. I really don't see the two clashing, except on the most basic level of consumer pounds/euro/dollars/etc.

  • Rob #25 5 years ago

    customers who have their sights set on improving their tech will be turned off the Wii within a moments glance

    You've handily confused 'tech' with 'graphics' there haven't you. For many people, the 'tech' around the Wii controller will be what gets the sale.

  • rhinoxious #26 5 years ago

    Is that a High-Definition mountain bike?

    And will I need a high-definition mountain to ride it on?

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  • Salubrious_K #28 5 years ago

    He made some valid points, although I thought his respect for the Wii was a little lacking.

  • JediMasterMalik #29 5 years ago

    What? His respect for Wii? What is this a cult?

    "He does not love Wii enough, BURN HIM!!"

  • Psychotext #30 5 years ago

    Steroyd: The answer is so simple you need to understand it. Poor people. The price of the PS2 is down in the impulse buy range and pretty much affordable for all. This is why the 360 isn't in the same market... same goes for the PS3. This has nothing to do with people wanting the latest and greatest, it's got to do with what people can afford.

    (Which incidentally is why the Nintendo will do so well.)

  • tiddles #31 5 years ago

    Xbox boss:

    "GIVE ME THE POUNDS!!! I WANT THE POUNDS!!!"

  • numptyboymatt #32 5 years ago

    "It's definitely more about pure fun than the experience of a video game."

    Isnt that a bit presumptious? - Surely an "experience" is pretty much what the individual involved makes of it whether they are sat on their fat ass pressing buttons on a controller of waving a remote at the screen like a lunatic.

  • #33 5 years ago

    In reality, customers who have their sights set on improving their tech will be turned off the Wii within a moments glance.

    I think you're over-estimating the importance both tech-savvy and the general populace place on the value of "tech".

    If past experience shows us anything at all, it's that the S/NES, PS/2, Gameboy and DS have proved that what matters most is the games. Do the games feel fresh, inventive and fun to play on a given system? Do the said games offer reasonable longevity and value for money for the stated price?

    We shall see.
    Edited by 1 at 10/11/06 @ 18:24

  • GrandpaUlrira #34 5 years ago

    I think the general population will see the Wii as being quite technologically advanced. When I explained to my mother how the Wii worked, she was incredulous, like something that advanced shouldn't be possible. Crazy, I know, but I wonder if the general non-gamer sees all the difference between the graphics of this gen (in which I'm bundling the Wii) and the next; the controller might seem more revolutionary.

  • el_pollo_diablo #35 5 years ago

    I've decided to opt out of it all this christmas and play with my hairy beanbag instead.

  • JackB #36 5 years ago

    That was actually a realistic and easy to digest message.

    The "kids toy" comment will probably get some Nintendo fans upset, because it can be enjoyed by adults, but is more targeted at a younger demographic and casual gamers.

    He did admit it would take pounds away, but not be a direct competitor and I'd say that's pretty much the consensus from the industry.

  • Rambaldi #37 5 years ago

    Let's be fair though, it is a BIT of a kids toy compared to the 360. It's no surprise Nintendo get labelled as a 'kids' console manufacturer if they persist in using a fat cartoon dude with a moustache for, not just their own identity, but over half of their bloody games.

    Looking forward to Metroid though.

  • Steroyd #38 5 years ago

    Psychotext: Don't give me that poor people BS the only poor people who won't get a PS3 for definite are those without a home, people these days are armed with credit cards and christmas and debt

    Saying they're not in competition with each other because of the price difference with that logic means no console in the "next generation" are competing with each other.

    PS2, Xbox and GC are in as much competition as the Xbox 360 and PS3 because they're aiming for the same demorgraph (known as competition), the Wii's unique input might put itself on a tangent but that remains to be seen.
    Edited by 1 at 10/11/06 @ 19:26

  • Psychotext #39 5 years ago

    Pointless arguing with you, but the sales at specific price points speak for themselves... and not everyone is an idiot with a credit card.

  • Carlo #40 5 years ago

    Looks like Neil Thompson has completely mis-read the marketplace if all these comments are to go by

  • Chtulie #41 5 years ago

    ´Kids toy´

    How much of an insecure teen must one be to be persuaded by that ´argument´.
    He forgot to make a whip noise for those Husbands buying a Wii over a 360, surely that sort of argument from the same heigth and class would persuade those men to throw down their shackles and go Xbox.

  • enzima #42 5 years ago

    @ Canadian_Mike
    "It must be nice to just lose money for 5+ years straight and still be able to pretend you've got a sucessful product on your hands. "

    do you at least know that Microsoft lost 96 millions in the trimester, and Sony 1,14 billions?

  • Steroyd #43 5 years ago

    Pointless arguing with you, but the sales at specific price points speak for themselves... and not everyone is an idiot with a credit card.

    The main question is did they want a games console at that certain price or did they want a playstation at that certain price.

    Dreamcast was $100 cheaper than the PS2 if i'm not mistaken.

    And no not everyone is an idiot with a credit card, but there seems to be alot of them to bring christmas to their kids.

    interest rate going up to 5% if that doesn't deter parent getting spoilt brat from getting what he wants this christmas i don't know what will.

    !!!

    Is this still on?

  • alimokrane #44 5 years ago

    Of course the PS2 is outselling the Xbox 360 DUH! £100 against £300...
    Let's see how The PS3 and Xbox360 will do next year when the Premium Xbox 360 is at £200 and the PS3 will still be at £400 when they will be offering the same experience unlike the PS2 and Xbox 360 comparisons.
    Edited by 2 at 10/11/06 @ 20:12

  • smelly #45 5 years ago

    >How asinine!

    I just had to look that word up.. I'll now use it in day to day life more often.

  • Feanor #46 5 years ago

    "Of course the PS2 is outselling the Xbox 360 DUH! £100 against £300... "

    And yet no one seems to remember the PSP costs almost twice as much as the DS when discussing sales figures for those machines.

  • Psychotext #47 5 years ago

    "And yet no one seems to remember the PSP costs almost twice as much as the DS when discussing sales figures for those machines."

    Which is why you never listen to fanboys. =)

    I aint a fanboy (I own all from last gen and will eventually get all the current gen consoles 360 etc)

  • Xerx3s #48 5 years ago

    I just had to look that word up.. I'll now use it in day to day life more often.

    definitely a word for threads about sony/ms related content. :D

  • morriss #49 5 years ago

    "Sometimes I think Microsoft talk about the PS3 just as much as Sony do."

    They were asked a question in an interview....

  • Drakron #50 5 years ago

    Perhaps MS sould start releasing games before trying to go head to head with Sony ...

    And its that Sony envy I see? Nintendo can damn well steal sales since a lot of people are a bit sick of having to buy a home entertaiment center along with their game console.

  • penhalion #51 5 years ago

    Oh please!

    Nintendo will steal sales because we all (well most of us) love mario and zelda and smash brothers games end of story!

    The PS2 still selling well is precisely the reason that sony themselves are not too keen to have the PS3 out at this time. The sales prove that the general public simply will not pay for the next gen consoles at their current prices. If anything this puts the PS3 in even worse shape than the 360.

    When a kid explains to their parent that the much more expensive PS3 plays PS2 games. The parent naturally says well why not get a PS2 for a quarter of the price? From there on it's a loosing battle to try to explain that the PS2 doesn't play the 60 quid game you want...

    Microsoft did the right thing in dis-continuing the xbox so that there isn't any confusion about which console you should be buying. Nintendo you will notice, also do this every generation.

  • Steroyd #52 5 years ago

    BUT IT'S ABOUT CHOICE.

    sorry penhalion but your post was asking someone to scream that. :D

  • mohsendevil #53 5 years ago

    nevermind .just xbox 360.because i hate play station idont know why but i hate sony company anyway.go ahead xboxeverybody knows xbox 360 graphic is amazing.

  • penhalion #54 5 years ago

    @Steroyd

    :=)

    Because I grew up in the computer games age. I wouldn't buy a PS3 for any kid I had regardless of the screaming and fussing. I'd use my parents old line. You can buy it yourself when you have 500 quid to burn. Or the famous "Do you think I'm made of money!"

    I guess seeing so many console generations. You become immune to the hype after a while. Doesn't stop me buying Halo 2 or Gears because I hope deep down they will be less crap than I know they are! That optimism doesn't stretch to 500 quid though...not by a long shot! I think most people who are parents now have lived therough the same game system releases and simply are not as gullible as some journalists or analysts would have you believe

  • Xerx3s #55 5 years ago

    Perhaps MS sould start releasing games before trying to go head to head with Sony ...

    ¬_¬ Yeah, sure. At least they actually released the platform.

    BUT IT'S ABOUT CHOICE.

    And so it is my dear fellow.

    nevermind .just xbox 360.because i hate play station idont know why but i hate sony company anyway.go ahead xboxeverybody knows xbox 360 graphic is amazing.

    Ehh..right... 0_o

    If there are parents out there who spend 700 € on a xmas present to silence their child, then they seriously reconsider what they are doing. But then again, no wonder that there are so many spoiled brats out there. If you want something that expensive, don't burden your parents with it, work for it or don't bother at all.

  • KiLlerKnight #56 5 years ago

    OMG, a (game)manager saying things that actually make sense. And I like his confidence, and why not. It won't be easy for the PS3.

    And don't compare the 360 with the ps2, they ARE in a completely different market NOW.

  • Razz #57 5 years ago

    low definition

    What? Is that some kind of retarded way of saying enhanced definition?

  • Psychotext #58 5 years ago

    "If you want something that expensive, don't burden your parents with it, work for it or don't bother at all."

    Amen to that. Any parent buying their child's love needs to take a long hard look in the mirror too.

  • WhyMeeeeee #59 5 years ago

    ok microsoft get Forza 2 ready for the ps3 launch then.

  • thefilthandthefury #60 5 years ago

    Why are people saying that Microsoft are facing another unopposed Christmas? The PS3 is out in Japan isn't it? Soon to be in the USA as well. I still think the 360 will do excellently mind.

  • EmiliasHorse #61 5 years ago

    The cost of PS3 is not high for what you get. Far from it in fact, the cheapest Blu-Ray player is £950 and that’s an ugly beast. The problem is the PS3 is still far too expensive to give to a 10 year old, yes I know it's a media center for the whole family. But how many will be used this way? (And this also applies to 360).

    The Wii is the ideal kid’s toy that adults can enjoy as well. Saying that if a friend asked me what console she should buy her 10 year old, I would say a PS2 with a load of cheap games. Christmas is a time for children and £50 games for £300+ machines is not in my view in the spirit of the season...Humbug!

  • erp #62 5 years ago

    damn, and i thought we were way past the "ninty 4 kids" accusations these days. i mean, it's always been a silly comment to make, but in the current climate where nintendo is doing far more than just about any other videogames company to widen the appeal and demographic of videogames, frankly it's just an utterly absurd thing to say.

  • SeesThroughAll #63 5 years ago

    Where does it say that the PS3 is meant to be a Xmas present for a kid? AFAIK, like the PSP, the PS3 is targeted at technofiles, 25-30 yr old. Why? Because this is the same generation that grew up with the PS brand. Sony is just trying to hold on to their niche and hope it will give them market dominance, which it won't anyway.

    I don't get why are people dissing the PS3 as a toy, when it clearly is not even being sold as such.

  • SeesThroughAll #64 5 years ago

    damn, and i thought we were way past the "ninty 4 kids" accusations these days. i mean, it's always been a silly comment to make, but in the current climate where nintendo is doing far more than just about any other videogames company to widen the appeal and demographic of videogames, frankly it's just an utterly absurd thing to say.

    Excuse people if they got fed up of Mario.

  • Drakron #65 5 years ago

    Yeah, sure. At least they actually released the platform.

    And their only published game have been ... DoA 4.


    Microsoft did the right thing in dis-continuing the xbox so that there isn't any confusion about which console you should be buying. Nintendo you will notice, also do this every generation.


    Except they did not ... they lost money since, for example, Bully was comming out for the Xbox and due to it being "discontinued" the Xbox version was scraped.

    Besides Xbox games are still being released so it means they really did not discontinued.

    As for Nintendo ... I think you sould look at the GBA catalog, they dont phase out their older handhelds because the market exists as for the GC it died a long time ago even if there are still some GC being released.

    In short you dont even know what you are talking about.

  • Shadar #66 5 years ago

    Good work, Neil. You managed to snap me out of my Microsoft goodwill wave. You see, I've considered Microsoft to be surprisingly fair players in the videogame market, not really stooping to the same lows as Sony has done time upon time.

    But ... A child's toy? A low-definition innovation? Does he expect anyone to respect that opinion, or does he just throw it in there so that the fanboys can nod to themselves and justify their purchase, because at least it's for grown-ups and what more: It's hi-definition, whatever that truly means.

    Ah, well. I hope Microsoft comes up with some compelling titles before Christmas, because my x360 has been disconnected for nearly two weeks now, and I have no good reason to hook it up again just yet.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/06 @ 15:32

  • Psychotext #67 5 years ago

    Shadar: It's marketing... I wouldn't get worked up about it. The Ninty is going to do just fine and will happily sit next to my 360 (well, as soon as they release the black version).

  • Xerx3s #68 5 years ago

    Why are people saying that Microsoft are facing another unopposed Christmas? The PS3 is out in Japan isn't it? Soon to be in the USA as well. I still think the 360 will do excellently mind.

    Well, with 6000K units vs 500K units while mainly having games that where out on other platforms earlier and not releasing in Europe I suppose people could say that. I don't really bu it though as it is just a silly and futile attempt to downplay the ps3.

    And their only published game have been ... DoA 4.

    I reckon that you live in a parallel universe.

  • erp #69 5 years ago

    Excuse people if they got fed up of Mario.
    *sigh*, i'm not even sure why i'm bothering to grace your response with a reply. did you even read what i wrote? at what point did i mention mario? read just about any interview with nintendo bigwigs (especially nintendo of japan) when they're talking about the philosophy behind both the wii and and the ds, and you'll witness them talk about being inclusive, about attracting demographics to gaming who would normally instinctively dismiss it, and about encouraging entire families to play together. the ds has already began bearing the fruit of this thinking, and nintendo are planning to continue that with the wii. they're not guaranteed to succeed with the wii, of course, but the ds can't be ignored as a possible indication of wii's chances. (also worth noting is that if you look at the titles that have been most successful at acheiving nintendo's goals with the ds, you'll notice there's not an italian plumber in sight.)
    so sure, nintendo aren't targetting the narrow, testosterone overloaded, disposable income-flush, and incredibly conservative demographic that most of the rest of the industry still seems obsessed with. but to say they're instead targetting kids is just wrong, plain and simple.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/06 @ 18:44

  • BulletMagnet_UK #70 5 years ago

    Wii isn't a kids toy just yet, granted, 2 thirds of the launch games are for kids, and the inevitable lack of support from more mature themed third parties will probably push the Wii further down the kids toy route, but it's not entirely a kids toy.

    yet.

  • Glitch #71 5 years ago

    you can buy a 360 & a Nintendo Wii for the same price as a PS3, simple as that really.

  • ChromeMud #72 5 years ago

    If Sony realeased a Wii type controller for the PS2,it could essentialy
    take the whole market away from everybody seeing as graphics aren't
    next gen any more.

    I don't believe in the above statement though,just a random thought!

  • Shadar #73 5 years ago

    Well, if Sony *could* do that, they'd still have a problem: Their core audience would be enraged if half of their launch line-up were minigame experiments on application of the controller. The prospective audience of the Wii will be more than happy with that, because they'll be able to play those games. Asking my mother to play Gears of War would be completely useless, not just because she would hate the subject matter and style, but because she wouldn't be able to play the damn thing.

    "No, mom. You need to take *cover*, and then you'll be able to progress towards the enemy by going from cover to cover tilting the analogue stick and pressing A."

    Asking her to play a little bit of tennis or something equally simple could be more interesting to her, because the barrier to entry is so low.

    ... the inevitable lack of support from more mature themed third parties will probably push the Wii further down the kids toy route, but it's not entirely a kids toy.
    Basis of your opinion, please? As far as I can tell, there's Twilight Princess, Red Steel and FarCry Vengeance in there for the hardcore audience. If they don't want those games, or are not intrigued by the functionality of the Wii, then they are not going to buy a Wii. I seriously doubt a lack of generic action titles is a problem. The real problem is attracting new audiences. If they fail at that, it won't matter whether they capture the hardcore or not. If they can't pull in the mainstream, their experiment has failed.

    Edit: Shit. You said PS2, not PS3. Uh, disregard the entire first part of my post.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/06 @ 18:36

  • ChromeMud #74 5 years ago

    @ peson360

    With a name like yours,everybody here can only assume that your words
    are gospel,that your mum is indeed the Holy Virgin Mary,that Ken is God
    and you are the born saviour of our planet.

  • peson360 #75 5 years ago

    "ChromeMud @ peson360

    With a name like yours,everybody here can only assume that your words
    are gospel,that your mum is indeed the Holy Virgin Mary,that Ken is God
    and you are the born saviour of our planet."

    @ChromeMud: u r just loser. get a life. with a name like yours, everybody here can only assume that u have mud in ur brain and chrome in ur penis

  • SeesThroughAll #76 5 years ago

    If Sony realeased a Wii type controller for the PS2,it could essentialy
    take the whole market away from everybody seeing as graphics aren't
    next gen any more.

    Sony already released experimental peripherals with experimental games, and it didn't work. EyeToy.

  • Takeuchi_Riki #77 5 years ago

    Please sign!!!
    http://ww w.petitiononline.com/basw/petit...

  • Calgon #78 5 years ago

    Drakron: And their only published game have been ... DoA

    Huh? Who published PGR3, PDZ, Kameo then?

    In short you dont even know what you are talking about.

    :)

    Some fair comments, perhaps he should have left out the "kids toy" comment but Nintendo are THE ones to follow for younger age groups, although most of their games are made in a way that adults can enjoy too("E"= for everyone?).
    Edited by 1 at 12/11/06 @ 15:08

  • Vertigo_ct #79 5 years ago

    Why is everyone so anti-Mirosoft, they clearly know what they're doing. I thought everbody liked the underdog? Microsoft came into a market that Sony had dominated for several years and managed to put up a real challenge, they suceeded where game veterans such as Nintendo (N64) and Sega (Dreamcast) failed. I bought a 360 after much deliberation, despite previously owing a ps1 and ps2, because it was the best choice. I dont mean to ridicule nintendo but I think (having used) the new controller it is far from revolutionary but uncomfortable. As for ps3 where do I begin, well its arrival has been delayed again, what is it at this point a year?. The fact that the design of the controller has remained stagnant is certaintly not because it has attained perfection but because they cant make a better design (the proposed controller model for ps3 that looked like some wierd boomerang and was quickly scrapped in embarassment comes to mind). Another problem I find with the controller is how they removed the rumble function for what? a tilt function which so far is only useful in one game.

    Microsoft the giant killer, I salute you

  • JediMasterMalik #80 5 years ago

    LMAO Learn more about MS before saluting them.

  • Shadar #81 5 years ago

    I remember a time when the comments threads here used to be worth reading and participating in. Those times are definitely past.

  • Collie #82 5 years ago

    You wouldn't say that if you didn't have that tree growing out of your head. What is it anyway, oak?

  • YourMessageHere #83 5 years ago

    I love it, someone actually dared suggest that the Wii isn't the inviolable saviour of the next generation, just a hyped-up, underpowered gimmick, and did so in such a way that it had to be reported in the gaming press. Just reading all the "it's NOT a kid's toy, it's not it's not it's not it's not! Lovely NINTY is for proper grown-upsies too! I'm telling on you!" posts is sadistically delicious.

    This is not to say that kid's toy = bad; I just love all the overreactions. More inflammatory comments, PR droids; much more fun.