Microsoft E3 Conference Finished

Microsoft has delivered its E3 keynote address and what a speech we saw.

Project Natal, the motion-sensing camera, was unveiled, as was the next Metal Gear Solid game, which will also be on Xbox 360. This one won't star Solid Snake, either - but the metal-jawed chap Raiden.

Microsoft also demonstrated Alan Wake, Final Fantasy XIII and Splinter Cell: Conviction on-stage, plus announced Twitter, Facebook and an ambitious new video service for Xbox 360.

And Forza 3. And Crackdown 2. And much more.

Read on for our full, blow-by-blow account of the entire Microsoft E3 conference.

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  • Psyver 5 years ago

    Impressive... most impressive. After Project Natal I was finished. Glad they left it for last. Nintendo took the first step and M$ is running with it. Sony's just at a jog or slow trot at this point but at least they are trying. Full of goodies and sweet sequels. Didn't have that much in me left after Splinter Cell. The old man never looked better. Can't wait, Ubi. Thanks for treating him right.
  • BillyBrush 5 years ago

    Splinter Cell is this year no? looked very good to me...and wakey wake, looked lurvley, i'd expect Spring next year is sooner than much of what the competition will show tbh ...as for Halo, it's bound to be a slick, enjoyable game, same L4D...i can see why people might poo poo these, but tbh they should be 8's 9's etc...good games
  • Incarta 5 years ago

    I'm just amused that instead of stealing the Wiimote off Nintendo like everyone was predicting, they ended up stealing the Eyetoy off Sony instead!



    I jest. I think it looks neat and there's a lot of potential there. Much like the Wiimote, it's going to catch on and make mega bucks or be Microsoft's Virtual Boy. Here's hoping for the prior.
  • onyxbox 5 years ago

    @Dizzy



    Facebook Twitter in game? Any game? In the mini blades?



    If that's true then it's an impressive addition with a clear edge over the browser approach.



    Hope they sort out the 360 on screen keyboard tho'... that thing is a nightmare to use... my brain wants to explode when I use that thing :-)



    Maybe not so important for us gamers... but it greatly expands the social network aspect of Live.



    agreed... it's an impressive addition and in tune with the way all this social networking stuff is going.



  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    "Sure Facebook and Twitter are good additions but we can use those services on Wii and PS3 and they're (quite rightly) filling in that hole because they don't have a browser built in. "



    This is totally different. People on Facebook will now be able to see what you are playing, your avatar, game movies, screenshots, probably achievements you are getting and you will be able to chat with you while playing. It is just a logical extension of Facebook and Twitter addicts that want their friends to know what they are doing. This is a huge addition for Live since all the people on Facebook who have no 360s *might* be tempted to "join the fight" ;) Throw in Last.fm and MS have integrated Live with the whole "social space" on the internet.



    Maybe not so important for us gamers... but it greatly expands the social network aspect of Live.
  • onyxbox 5 years ago

    @Les is right IMO.



    ..nicely put and much more concise than my waffling :-).



  • onyxbox 5 years ago

    @RexRunti



    @trebell



    I am multi platform and I expect to see stuff I will be playing this year and a bit of tech from the future. As it stands MS showed little that you can only play on 360 this year and some tech that IMO seems a long way off from being in our living rooms.



    Sure Facebook and Twitter are good additions but we can use those services on Wii and PS3 and they're (quite rightly) filling in that hole because they don't have a browser built in.



    It's not bias, I have all the consoles, I love games and I don't care who wins the console war. I enjoy games on all systems and I can see strengths for all the systems but... I have a question.





    What did Microsoft announce @ the press conf. that was new and exclusive and in shops this year?





    That's the stuff I get excited about, and if Sony and Nintendo do the same today I will be bitterly disappointed in them too.



    Sorry if I seem a bit Jaded... I'm not... I'm just trying to keep a real perspective on what was announced last night, I'm managing my own expectations if you will... Halo ODST is an expansion and the Halo Reach is just a trailer. I'm stoked about Crackdown 2 and I hope that's not 2010. Alan Wake I expected more to be honest, I'm not the only one where I work that feels the same. Forza looks good but I didn't like the Xbox version or Forza 2 (PGR was more fun for me) plus the new one is more of the same.



    The MGS game is also an unknown at the moment but I look forward to that when it arrives (late 2010 at a guess).



    I'm not bagging on 360, these are facts and how I feel about them... but 'teh biased' ... nah... I'm too old for all that :-)









  • MilkYMoO 5 years ago

    Amazing stuff, fabulous games and mindblowing revolutionary technology. Wow!.

    Come on sony and nintendo, blow me away like microsoft did.
  • Les 5 years ago

    "No i think the majority are just loyal to other platforms and trying desperately to convince themselves that there's nothing good on their "rival"."



    Or people are genuinely not impressed by a by the numbers show with a gimmicky tech demo... TBH though, these shows are generally rather uninteresting with the dick waving by all the players. The 'stealing' of exclusives used to make it somewhat interesting for platform loyalists (or people that think one box in the living room should be enough) but these days it's all about graphically updated sequels.



  • MeBrains 5 years ago

    @RexRunti:

    Seriously, hardcore games? Check.

    Casual games? Check.

    Exclusive games? Check.

    Exclusive third party games? Check.

    all checks, but all the same formula's we have been playing for years. Nothing really interesting imho.





    A lot more entertainment stuff? Check.

    The TV thing? Instant 1080p? I am on 1mbps. Nothing for me. Besides, I want to play games instead of watching movies. I have blu-rays for movies... :| kidding actually, I have a network media player for movies.





    More social networking? Check.

    Could maybe be interesting. Depends on its integration with games. Then again, I do not have a facebook account, I do have twitter, but hardly use it. Not for me it is. Besides, I want to play games instead of network.





    New technology that could change the industry? Check.

    Like I said before: I would not be surprised if the whole thing was scripted at the moment. A technology preview so to say. I'll keep an eye and ear out for this over the coming months to see how it measures up in real life. It sounds promising, but I fear it will end up unfunctional.
  • RexRunti 5 years ago

    Jesus what more do people want from a press conference? I think the majority of nay sayers here would still be dissapointed if MS said "We've just bought Square Enix and Nintendo and we have a new control scheme that allows you to actually enter the game world like the Matrix. Our new dashboard gives you access to all your e-mail and every TV channel available in the world for free (icluding sports and porn) and will do your ironing for you. All gold subscibers will get the moon on a stick."



    Seriously, hardcore games? Check. Casual games? Check. Exclusive games? Check. Exclusive third party games? Check. A lot more entertainment stuff? Check. More social networking? Check. New technology that could change the industry? Check.
  • muscleblade 5 years ago

    Crackdown 2 isnt out this year either. Is it?
  • jambo74 5 years ago

    Hmmmmm....Think I will stick on the old MGS 4 tonight



    May even play a few rounds on-line....Hmmmmmmmm
  • onyxbox 5 years ago

    @woodnotes



    oh yeah... no idea what that is, as far as I'm concerned that will be winter 2010 and at the moment is nothing more than a trailer.



    2009 is a bit bare tbh



  • spekkeh 5 years ago

    Sigh.



    I think I'm getting old. I used to get really aroused by this stuff. Now I just see the upteenth graphical improvement on the same franchise, and lots of games for fifteen year old boys. 25 Years of gaming and devs still can't come up with anything else than some gruff sounding pumped guy smashing another guy with a cliche lisp's face in. At least the narrative of Splinter Cell sounded interesting, the part where they didn't actually play the game that is. CoD MW2 could be somewhat interesting too. The rest was pretty tosh, safe for maybe the shadow-thingy metroid clone.



    Project Natal is just Eyetoy 2 and will be just as successful, MS still doesnt seem to know why Nintendo is doing so well. And Milo is shenanigans, this will only work when completely customized to someone's voice and if the story is progressing in the desired direction.
  • Kerome 5 years ago

    @MeBrains: the Natal demo was not scripted, and it really does work. If you look at the stream closely, you can see one place where Kudo's avatar on-screen in the 360 dash actually goes haywire - arms twisted behind his back and stuff - which definitely would not have happened if it had been scripted... a couple of other small glitches in the Ricochet demo showed that that was live, too.
  • Wash 5 years ago

    Pretty good, i think at the very least it dismisses fears of no games this year. As per usual tho they'll all be out at the end of the year.



    Natal was cool if can be done, and done well within other applications - my biggest gripe with the wii atm is very few games use it well enough.



    2 things drew me in more than anything else - Splinter Cell and Beatles RB - obviously sequels, but theres something about seeing sam fisher smash the guys head through the sink and the objectives appering in the scenary. The beatles of course, awesome to hear those tracks and the multiple singers.



    Be interesting to see what comes new from the other 2 this year, again its lining up to be a great year for gaming already, and leading in 2010, if natal arrives and works - could be an important year.



    I suspect that natal may just slide into the release window the nxt box, i dont see much point for peripherials that arent set standard, they'll never get the support it needs to launch epically.



    I love all the naysayers just knocking every bullet point of the list.



    Good to see the enthusiasm for gamin still, and for all the cries aboot M$ forgetting anything but the waggle crowd, the conference was pretty full on for normal games.



  • andywilkie35 5 years ago

    MGS, wahey!
  • woodnotes 5 years ago

    @onyxbox: You forgot Halo Reach, which is a whole new Halo, not just a glorified expansion pack.
  • onyxbox 5 years ago

    Moring after thoughts are:



    Pretty poor showing really. I'm looking forward to Crackdown 2. I can't see how anyone can get excited about Left 4 Dead 2... more of the same by the looks of things. Halo looks... well... just like all the others... no improvements there.



    Alan Wake is next year :/ . The Facebook and Twitter apps may be ok if they fix their on screen keyboard layout and make it in-game.



    The highlight of the MS conference has to be Project Natal and I bet we won't see that untill at least late next year... and will it work? ... The whole Milo thing... scientists have been trying to do this sort of thing for a while and it's never convincing enough IMO.. credit to them if they pull it off.



    So we have:

    o Crackdown 2

    o A glorified Halo expansion pack

    o A better version of Forza with "The best graphics in a racer this generation" (just don't tell them about NFS Shift)

    o Natal - A tech demo of something we wont see for a long time yet (cool but ages away)

    o Alan Wake (did it really take 3 years to do that) - oh and it won't be this year

    o A non Kojima MGS spinoff - oh and it probably won't be this year

    o Instant On 1080p over my DSL connection... I'd like that to be true but I can't even play iPlayer smoothly over DSL these days... that's a f'ing pipe dream.



    All in all... I ask myself... what are we going to get this year that's cool and exclusive?

  • MeBrains 5 years ago

    some exclusives, but not the ones I am looking forward to.



    as for the new tech. I can't believe that demo wasn't scripted and I can't believe this actually working in real life situations. It sounds like a KZ2 2005 demo to me - which eventually will not live up to its promise. But well, they are going to show behind closed doors, so we should be getting further feedback on it the coming days...



    overall verdict of this presentation: MEH!
  • electrolite 5 years ago

    From the fairly neutral POV of someone who doesn't have either 360 or PS3, that seemed a really impressive show. If Natal works anywhere near as well as MS reckon, it has superb potential, and their showing aside from that, while not going to break out of the demographic MS usually appeal to, should help them strengthen their grip on it. Good stuff.
  • GamerG 5 years ago

    Crackdown 2........that is all...
  • Les 5 years ago

    Guess there's no way of not making this the most boring E3 ever. There is no such thing as 3rd party exclusivity anymore. So the only things left to announce are the games we all knew were coming and Sony and MS's 'answers' to the Wii.
  • Buztafen 5 years ago

    Left 4 Dead 2.......that is all...
  • Darren 5 years ago

    Re: Wii Music... it's a mediocre Nintendo product at best IMO but then Nintendo seem to specialize in mediocre of late because that's what the casual masses want (that's why they don't buy good games like Punch Out and Boom Blox for example). The GameRankings average for Wii Music of 63% says as much. I've yet to meet anyone, child or adult, who actually admits to liking it and those that have bought it got tired of it within days of buying it and haven't touched it since (my nephew and cousins for example). The sound quality is also appalling and there's no excuse for that. I can't believe anyone is even defending that "game", it's an insult even to a child's intelligence if you ask me. Utter crap and EG said as much in their review too so it must be! :p
  • MORZTAN 5 years ago

    I wonder how many xbox 360 MS has to sell to finance a show like that. 5 million?
  • smelly 5 years ago

    http://www.vimeo.com/4952629



    That is all
  • drumbaby 5 years ago

    Alan Wake took this long to be like THAT? :/
  • LHH 5 years ago

    I'm liking the games announced so far. Lots of butthurt in this thread but the warring is getting old, and it reads like it.

    But Kojima and Microsoft = master trolls. lol

    Roll on Alan Wake, L4D2, ME2 and of course MGS:R lol, good stuff. I love these conferences.
  • PsychoPriest 5 years ago

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  • NotSoSlim 5 years ago

    @HNDave



    Of course they did. Sony has not even had there conference yet but MS have put ore dirt on there coffin. Surely people should wait until all conferences are finished??



    Whatever...hoping for some suprises tomorrow
  • McGeeza 5 years ago

    @smelly



    I agree that the jumping around in front of the TV aspects of Natal will appeal more to kids but I don't think you're seeing the bigger picture.



    Whilst holding an imaginery steering wheel doesn't appeal personally, I can get behind head tracking with racing games that allows you to look around in the cockpit view without clumsily clicking buttons or using the analogue stick. Another example would be using hand gestures to order AI team mates in games like GRAW. Surely you can see the benefit of stuff like that?
  • NHDave 5 years ago

    MS just put more dirt onto Sony's coffin
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Until he walked onto that podium, nobody knew.



    apart from the people making it.. and the publisher... and their families.. and...
  • Xerx3s 5 years ago

    "I already knew about MGS on 360 so that wasn't a supprise. "



    God, listen to yourself man. Your talking out of your arse. YOU DIDN'T KNOW. Until he walked onto that podium, nobody knew.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Smelly PS3 fanboy - we all know it!



    Yeah.. okay.. you got me.

  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Sony and Nintendo will be suffering from severe anal prolapse long after this E3 is over.



    We'll see.



    Personally there wasnt much in the presentation for me. I was hoping for a lot of new games, as i've been playing 360 more and more of late. But the first section of new games just all seemed to be the same game to me with different graphics - the few games i wanted arent out until next year!!!. The section on twitter/facebook - i can see the appeal - not for me. And Natal looked f-ing brilliant tech, but not the sort of thing i'd buy for myself.



    I dont know what to expect from nintendo or sony tommorow - especially after last years bore fests for both of them.. But i'm hoping at least ONE of them will show me a GAME i want to play...



  • smelly 5 years ago

    (okay.. counted to ten).. i'll reply.. dunno why i'm bothering as the guy obviously has a negative iq score.. but here i go..



    I didnt "hate" on project natal. I said it's a impressive bit of tech, and i'm ALL FOR IT. I think it's GOOD for the xbox to have it. But I personally wont be buying it (as i'm a grown up who doesnt want to be jumping around in front of my tv to play games), it'd be perfect for my 6 year old neice and nephew though.



    And the same for the "other game" which i'm not going to mention any more. I dont own that either, but it was perfect for my neice and nephew.





    Sheesh.. And they say playing games is bad for your inteligence!



    (sic)



  • smelly 5 years ago

    "Smelly, so you hate people hting on Wii music as they have not played it played it, then you dismiss Project Natel? "



    (holds my breath.. counts to ten.. ah fuck it)



    ... Geesus.. are you fucking dim or fucking something?



    beemoh - could you explain it to this retard? I've lost the energy.

  • UncleLou 5 years ago

    Quite the Mehfest.



    Splinter Cell sounds good in theory, but after AC and FC2, I have no faith in Ubi Montreal anymore. Hitman this won't be.



    Alan Wake looks alright, from the little that was shown, but not exactly special. Hope it's more than a super-natural Max Payne.



    Not interested in all the non- and metagaming nonsense.
  • LeD 5 years ago

    Sony and Nintendo will be suffering from severe anal prolapse long after this E3 is over.
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    LeD, explain how please.
  • GamerG 5 years ago

    @Smelly, so you hate people hting on Wii music as they have not played it played it, then you dismiss Project Natel?



    I cant see how anyone in to Wii games can dismiss PN without giving it ago
  • LeD 5 years ago

    So MS won E3 already, I guess we can all agree on that, no?
  • smelly 5 years ago

    okay.. well seems that we're both arguing the same thing (ish).



    I just get rhiled up when i see people (not you) slagging off wii music as "shit" when they probably havent even seen the box for it - let alone played it (or watched kids play it... erm.. not in a creepy way *smile*).



    And i get rhiled up when gamers get snobbish on forums about this type of thing - as they're not "real games" in their eyes.. which of course is bullshit - and there is a much bigger market for these types of games than yet another fucking fps game.. (as seen by even wii music's sales figures).



    Project natal - not for me.. i'll have a bit of a play with it - no doubt i'll have fun.. doubt i'll buy it though.



    And out of the rest of the games.. Only Alan Wake (and maybe final fantasy) really had me even half interested - and that's not out until next year...



    - that makes me sad. I dont know what i *WAS* hoping for, but this wasnt it.. And certainly not the "best conference ever" most people are talking about it being on other forums..



    (and i'm scared of saying that in case some retard jumps in and starts saying im a nintendo fanboy again)





  • GamerG 5 years ago

    i've been out, can some one state whats coming out this autumn/holiday, I dont really give a monkies about 2010, thats a lifetime away!
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "@smelly: but the point isn't to compare Wii Music to Fable 2. It's to compare it to Wii Play and Wii Sports. "



    GAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Wii sports was free with the machine, wii play gave you a free controller. My point was that:



    1) it was insanely popular

    2) it was good (if you're 6)

    3) its a good thing for microsoft to be doing this



    Fucking hell, it's not fucking rocket science is it?

  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Oh good christ, this is worse than



    Okay.. i forgot.. Rodchenko didnt just call me a nintendo flag waving fanboy? Check context before you start pointing out what i am/am not saying please.



    >Thought you might be interested.



    I am.. it shows that even though everyone gets dissing the (great imho) kids game - wii music as being shit - it sold more than fable 2.



    proves my point well.. cheers

  • bad09 5 years ago

    "Uh oh! Did I forget to empty that, rather large, box? Regrets ordering 1,000 suppositories online... :/ "





    Poke it up your arse....





    / Gives box back, go plays Wii Music, comes back for the box, starts on suppositories "OK, one, two, three...."
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Countmuppet its past your bedtime, you should be sleeping, dreaming about milo...eh you sick sick person.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    @beemoh: you've just given me a link which shows ONLY 6 xbox 360 games selling more than 3 million - out of the hundreds (maybe thousands?) released?



    Whats your point exactly?

  • MasterNameless 5 years ago

    @bad09



    Uh oh! Did I forget to empty that, rather large, box? Regrets ordering 1,000 suppositories online... :/
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @Countflap



    go to sleep little man, grown ups are having a conversation
  • smelly 5 years ago

    @MossyMos: "But as you guessed yourself, I am not 6 years old and henceforth my dislike of the direction newfangled gizmos and body recognition software might take me. In ten years time I will probably be up in arms for camera movement as input, but right now no. "





    I *TOTALLY* agree - i couldnt give a shit about it either. But i CAN see there's a market for it.. And I *DO* think it's a GOOD thing. I can see my neice and nephews loving it!



    Unlike most people on forums and can look past what I PERSONALLY want, and what is/isnt good or bad...



    After all, if all games were fps games and racing games.. where woudl we be? Oh right - the 360 *wink*



    (for the hard of thinking - last sentence was tongue in cheek)



  • bad09 5 years ago

    "@bad09



    Haha. Here you go little one, and here, have some useless plastic scissors that'll take you an hour to crudely carve what resembles a robot's eyes and mouth. Then you can run around the house with the box on your head annoying everyone with it!"



    \o/



    I AM AWESOME-O DOES MASTERNAMELESS NEED A SUPPOSITORY?
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "Are you ever going to get tired defending a globally operating, wealthy and successful Japanese electronics company as if it was some homeless chap dwelling under a bridge, smelly?"





    *sigh* fuck off child.. read my posts.. you'll see i'm sticking up for "casual games" (and in this case wii music - which everyone is quick to pounce of for being "shit" despite most people never playing it) not for any particular company.



    But I forget that you're not allowed to have an opinion against "popular internet nerd" opinion on a game forum - or somehow you're in "league" with the opposition.



    I suggest you go out and grow some pubes or something you intollerable child.

  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    @Smelly



    I never said Wii Music was bad. I think it is kind of neat and I mean that in the kindest possible way. But as you guessed yourself, I am not 6 years old and henceforth my dislike of the direction newfangled gizmos and body recognition software might take me. In ten years time I will probably be up in arms for camera movement as input, but right now no.



    Kids like it, good. Good for them. Nothing against that.
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    GH/Rock Band should of course be played for fun, not as a tool for learning a instrument. Get some beer and a few mates and I think even you would though out badman09 :). As for Wii Music - not my type of game but I wonder if it could be seen as the modern equivalent to kids dressing up as their favourite band and doing sing-back like we did when I was young (Kizz for the win!!) ..? In fact, that would be a cool game I guess for kidz. Have some proper recordings (not the midi-music) and let kidz just do sing-back in front of the TV :).
  • onyxbox 5 years ago

    So what's this year?



    Crackdown 2 - Looking forward to this.

    Halo ODST - Looks a bit average.

    Splintercell - Looks ok.

    Forza "The best graphics in a racer this generation" - Looks pretty amazing (I hope it lives up to that claim.. some of us have played PGR4 and GT5 Prologue)

    Alan Wake - oh wait that's 2010 too.



    hmm... not much then... oh and Epics XBLA game.



    Thought the Natal looks amazing tech... if it actually is that good... and Facebook / Twitter integration could be huge.. but only if it's accessible during gameplay.



    Shame there was no XNA or Zune HD game stuff.



    The MGS announcement was a bit predictable "we've got MGS too" - and we have no idea when that will come out... late 2010 i would imagine.



    all in all ... pretty good showing... nothing for Sony or Nintendo to worry about tho' to be honest.
  • MasterNameless 5 years ago

    @bad09



    Haha. Here you go little one, and here, have some useless plastic scissors that'll take you an hour to crudely carve what resembles a robot's eyes and mouth. Then you can run around the house with the box on your head annoying everyone with it!
  • Rodchenko 5 years ago

    Are you ever going to get tired defending a globally operating, wealthy and successful Japanese electronics company as if it was some homeless chap dwelling under a bridge, smelly?
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    Domovoi: thanks - I jsut saw they had put up the list. And whooohooo - Sweden are in there. Here's hoping that they also get some good movies and TV-shows in there.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    "Thats like telling adults not to bother with guitar hero, etc.. "



    Hey horses for courses, but yeah I think any adult not just trying a child's game out should not be playing GH. But that's purely my own opinion of course! :)



    oh and actually it's easier to learn a instrument when young so it probably is better then Wii Music......
  • lunnyt00n 5 years ago

    @chris_ace



    Thats a fair point, it doe's only seem like yesterday that the 1st was released, and it's not like Killing Floor is as good IMO, although i only played it at a friends house, but i too was suprised to see a sequel so quick. Heres hoping i suppose.
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    beemoh: You missed my edit. I appologize for the first comment.



    However - I couldn't care less if someone doesn't like causal games. As I said I'm not really a fan of most of them and thus do not buy them. However - a lot of the comments made in this thread are far more than just disliking casual games. What I dislike is the comments that are looking down on casual games like they someohow are inferior and will taint the console that has them. It is one thing to just not like them, another to actually getting upset that MS is also trying to get those types of games - like the fact that theya re on the plattform somehow will affect the gaming experience of others.



    It is the notion that having casual games on a plattform somehow is a bad thing that is pissing me off. And that has nothing to do with just not liking casual games. If the Wii had enough more serious titles that appealed to me I would buy it again in a heartbeat regardless if the rest of the catalouge doesn't interest me.



    As for Wii Music. In my opinion it got panned because it was a bad game whit a lack of content and interaction. I guess I can agree that you can call it "Too casual" just as a game like Steel Battalion was "too hard core" but I really do not see what it has to do with anything I guess as I see each of those games as extremes on the opposite side. We've had pretty non-interactive games before (remember all those horrible FMV-mobies games on the PC for example) so I do not see Wii Music as some sort of trend.



  • Les 5 years ago

    Alan Wake, MGS and MS's take on new controls. Was hoping there would be some surprises. Hope the rest of E3 isn't as boring...
  • smelly 5 years ago

    @beemoh: 3 million is a huge number for a game mainly aimed at children... it's a huge number for most games.



    There arent THAT many games out there which sell more than a million, let alone 3 million. Sure it's not as big as wii fit (but then neither is the ps3!!!), or mario (no brainer), etc etc. But for a brand new piece of IP (or for ANY game) 3 million is f-ing impressive.



    So it's no wonder microsoft want some of that pie.



    (and no - not slagging off microsoft there - i think broadening the market is a good thing)

  • bad09 5 years ago

    / jumps up and down furiously



    MasterNameless.....give the box!...give me it..give me the box!



  • Latin 5 years ago

    Crackdown 2!
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >At 6 the perfect thing for a child is A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT not dumb waggle game.



    Give a 6 year old a musical instrument.. and they'll create a noise - and get bored because it doesnt sound like anything.



    Give them a toy where they can easily "make" music which sounds like something half good (While learning about keeping good rythm and stuff), and they have GREAT fun.





    Your argument just doesnt work. Thats like telling adults not to bother with guitar hero, etc.. people enjoy it.. but it's too complex for kids. I see wii music as guitar hero "baby edition". It's just fun.



    Dont get me wrong.. I wouldnt buy it myself - and it bores me BECAUSE i'd prefer a more "well rounded" proper gaming experience. But then - i'm not 6 years old.

  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @lunnyt00n



    no it will be on PC as well as 360, i just meant a sequel so soon, thats not their style. i wonder how much of a real sequel it will actually be
  • MasterNameless 5 years ago

    A cardboard box is also a great piece of entertainment for a 6 year old. In fact, it's probably the greatest...
  • lunnyt00n 5 years ago

    @chris_ace



    Surely L4D2 will be on Steam at release, i can't see Valve dumping on their core market (at least i hope not)
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @countmoron



    we get it you love microsoft, now get to bed. we all saw the conference we dont need your propaganda to help influrence us.



    alan wake was the stand out title, lengthy wait though. as for left 4 dead 2, well thats not like valve at all
  • bad09 5 years ago

    @smelly



    Sorry mate I don't agree. At 6 the perfect thing for a child is A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT not dumb waggle game. I don't have children but when I do they sure as hell 'ain't playing the arse crap this industry pumps out aimed at those poor children.



    Even as a gamer I'd prefer they read a book!
  • ronuds 5 years ago

    "I'm pretty certain that somewhere it's already been confirmed that ME2 will be multi-platform"



    Only as speculation and rumour.
  • Razzajazz 5 years ago

    I'm pretty certain that somewhere it's already been confirmed that ME2 will be multi-platform, I'm not sure about them porting the first one, though. Remember that EA now owns Bioware, so I'd be *highly* surprised if it wasn't.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    As for that "little boy" app - i can see it going like this:



    "Hi smelly how are you today"

    "hi little boy - would you like to play with my puppies?"

    "i dont understand smelly"

    "why dont you fuck off and die little boy?"

    "i dont understand smelly"

    "little boy - please drop your pan.." (actually maybe im taking this joke too far)

  • smelly 5 years ago

    @bad09: "To be fair tho just because kiddies like something doesn't mean it's not crap."



    Yeah.. But most people on forums seem to want to compare tellytubbies with terminator 2 (or something)



    - my point still stands that wii music IS a GREAT piece of entertainment (for 6 year olds)



    And I dont see any reason why the same cant be true for natal..

  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    @Swedbear: here's the list of countries: http://www.eurogamer.net/article
    s/last-f...
  • Spekingur 5 years ago

    Most exciting and eerie thing for me about Project Natal is the facial and voice recognition. In the world that we live in, with all our screens and technology, an AI that can recognise our face and voice will become our housekeeper. So, yes, this is our future.

    The next Xbox will have an intergrated AI that will know you and can hold up a conversation to you. It can connect to other electric equipment in your house and turn it on or off.

    After that we shall see this AI in holographic equipment, possibly full body size. And then, we will be attacked by strange alien beings with energy swords...
  • MightyMouse 5 years ago

    Well that sounded all right, as good as they normally get without big new hardware announcements (not counting Natal since as everyone's pointed out it's not going to work as well as the demo).



    Onwards to Assassin's Creed 2 and other actually good games!
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Thomas the Tank Engine is boring Smelly. No real plot or depth of character, sub standard special FX....and Ringo Star - Beatles = overrated, THERE I said it! Stones FTW!



    To be fair tho just because kiddies like something doesn't mean it's not crap. We adults like crap to sometimes....
  • GreyBeard 5 years ago

    Anyone else find the lack of Mass Effect 2 promotion a bit unexpected?



    I wonder if Sony have quietly gotten it and the original ME ported? I know it sound outlandish but I find it very odd that neither the ME2 website (or even the banner on this site) state which platform its on, unless I missed it somehow (NFS is on atm).
  • gerald 5 years ago

    Natal is interesting from a tech-perspective, but I'm not sure I want to pose infront of my TV (actually I'm sure I don't).

    Spielberg telling everyone that this is a new age in gaming - classic hyperbolic PR. Its a new camera and (hopefully) some clever software... eyetoy evolved. Did they mention, when and how this "project" will become a product?



    The Exclusives:

    I'm exited for Forza 3 and Alan Wake and want to see Crackdown 2 gameplay.

    Splinter Cell is wierd in an interessting way (why is this xbox exclusive?).

    Shadow Complex could be fun.

    I don't play multiplayer-shooters, so I don't care for L4D 2 or Halo Reach.

    Halo ODST was just boring.



    Verdict: Some great games and an interessting tech demo. A good show.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    @chris_ace, dont worry about CountMuppet, hes a fanboy of the tallest order..



    For the Natal, considering its new tech, and its going to take a while to be released, I really cant see games companies initally doing anything with it. Look how long its taken 3rd parties to do anything with the wii remote anove and beyond the basic stuff. I think developers will think, first we will make a game, then we will shoehorn this in if we can but whenever. So MS are going to have to try and push it and not rely on 3rd parties, cause they are not going to be bothered right now. I say this because the Wii platform, which is the best waggle/remote controller platform, hardly any 3rd party stuff has sold that well, I cant see companies wanting to take the risk unless its cheap crappy party games, that are cheap to make.
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    @MossyMos: lol, you're right, I'm kinda excited. I'm rooting for a good Sony/Ninty conference as well, though.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    @MossyMos: I take it (by the fact you're typing on a forum) that you're NOT 6 years old?



    Therefor - it's not aimed at you!



    Not ALL games have to be aimed at teenagers you know!



    Just because a game is aimed at children, for children to enjoy (Which they do), and you dont like it - DOESNT mean its a bad game.. It's just not designed with YOU in mind. Would you watch thomas the tank engine and complain that it bores you and therefor isnt a good tv show? Millions of young kids would disagree



    Oh, and wii music is in the top ten best selling nintendo wii games.. cant remember numbers but it's more than a million

  • lunnyt00n 5 years ago

    Not a single mention of anything Games for Windows Related. F.U Microsoft
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    lol Uncharted 2, heavy rain, R&C AND Heavy Rain all exclusive to Sony?



    Microsoft, shut down your stall this year, any attempt to outdo Sony will result in painful shame to you and your fanbase.



    @CountFapula...Silly isnt it?
  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    @Miiiguel

    If you look for those comments you will find them. Chill out, enjoy the conferences and be a gamer. God that sounded corny :)



    @Smelly

    That may be the case for you. Despite how much I might enjoy watching my siblings having fun with Wii Music it bores the hell out of me at the end, not because they enjoy it but because I can see straight through those controls and how simple it is. They might as well be playing Spice Girls on the PS1 (I think it was PS1).
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    "The camera has its own processor in it, aparrently. "



    Well that should fix things. Sounds expensive though.
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    So, anyone seen any mention of the countries that will get the movies and TV-downloads? Since we do not even have movies over iTunes it would be a major breakthrough if MS finally cracked the licencing problems and got us downloads here in Sweden (and other countries).
  • CHAZBIGPOTATO 5 years ago

    "Paul and Ringo are on stage! The real ones! No sign of Heather"



    Genius!
  • muziksoulchild 5 years ago

    And the Xbox 360 becomes self aware 2011, with the help of project natal, Judgement day... microsoft destroys planet earth with an army of milos...
  • scorpius45 5 years ago

    Nothing very exciting from MS lets hope nintendo and sony do better.
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Ill bet that we wont see this natal thing until the next xbox is announced its years away from being a finished product.

    Great technology it is but its only going to be as good as the developers who make games for it and apart from a few tech demos software seems a long way off.



  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @GreyBeard



    agreed, but they could make a killer wii fit game but its too late for that now
  • smelly 5 years ago

    @beemoth: "See also: Wii Music"



    Wii music sold a fair bit i think you'll find.



    And it was PERFECT for it's target audience.. Put it in front of ANY 6 year old and tell me it's not a fun piece of entertainment...

  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Well, was very nice, and one thing I know, it doesn't help to improve tomorrow's conference by stating this one was just "music games"; "halo milking"; "just shooters"; or the grand finale comments "too casual"... we had all these kinda comments during this presentation. Awesome!
  • shuffles 5 years ago

    Where can I watch the press conference online? I missed it and wanna watch it now!! I tried gamespot but it says they will have it up for replay later. R there any sites that have it replaying now?
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    niteninja: So then do not make those type of games using Natal. The problem for me with the Wii and the Wiimote is that a lot of developers have tried to shoehorn in the Waggle into games that work fine without it. I think the 360 is in a better position to be able to offer both games for the regular controller as well as games that work well with a motion-based controller/non-controller.



    I've been on presentations for the eyetoy and the demos they did today looks far better and advanced than any of the eyetoy demos.



    We'll see how well the technology works but I think that MS has done the right thing by not simply copying either the Wiimote or the eyetoy (like they did with the vision camera) but instead try to create something that could be called the next step in motion-controll. Considering how people always are accusing them of copying it is nice that they at least try to do something different.



  • Darren 5 years ago

    @Turambar - Given that the Xbox 360 is far more powerful than the Wii, I'd still expect more complex and better looking games using Project Natal. They'll be HD at least.
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    "Microsoft will keep the tech secret for ages yet,the dev kits have only been sent out I can only see this working with very simple games like 90% of the wii stuff. "



    It probably needs a lot of processor time as well which will likely limit the complexity of the games it can be used for.
  • patchbox360 5 years ago

    the natal technology used in a game like resi evil would be awesome
  • smelly 5 years ago

    @GreyBeard: Intelligent post! (a real shocker for these forums!)



    i agree!

  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Microsoft will keep the tech secret for ages yet,the dev kits have only been sent out I can only see this working with very simple games like 90% of the wii stuff.

    Complex games require buttons could you imagine how hard a duck and cover shooter would be if you had to scan a piece of cardboard and hide behind it every 10 seconds.



  • Vin 5 years ago

    Man, I'm so fucking sold on Reach and Conviction.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "So is natal just a software thing, or do we have to buy a new caera to replace the massivley unsuppoted vision camera "



    On the video footage, there was a bar under the tv of everyone playing.. Looks like a large sensor thing. I'd guess about 20 inches long, 4 inches high (from videos)



    So yeah.. deffo need new hardware.. it's not gonna be cheap.



    Thus the problem. (unless nintendo do something stupid like release the motionplus at $50 - rather than just giving it away)

  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    @gaselite



    I agree, it is nice these things are moving forward. Many of the new functionalities shown I like, but will I use them and will they get in the way? Integration of all things digital into a home console is not black magic it is just something console makers have previously restrained from including into the "core" experience. But most of these additional features still take a while for gamers to truly accept, especially gamers who for example grew up with a Nintendo 64 or PS1.



    Still, a feature is a feature is a feature until it becomes a bullet point to a marketing department. Fortunately natural selection usually takes it course and cuts the bullet points down before they become ingrained into every game we play. Hopefully.



    / goes back to coding game from magazine on a Texas Instrument TI-99/4A
  • Darren 5 years ago

    Apart from Project Natal, which was extremely interesting, I didn't think the games themselves looked particularly mind-blowing or impressive. Forza 3 looks nice but it's just another sequel at the end of the day. Everything else was predictable IMO, even the announcement of a Metal Gear Solid game wasn't totally unexpected as it has been rumoured for a while that it was headed for the 360. Halo 3 ODST looked very meh, although I'm sure it'll play fine, and Splinter Cell Conviction didn't do anything for me. All the talk of LIVE bored me as I have no interest in it at all having just cancelled my Gold sub and the 1080p Video Market stuff doesn't appeal to me either as I buy Blu-ray movies and two BD players, including the PS3. I'm a movie collector, I don't like renting films.



    Not a terrible conference by any means but there wasn't really much exciting there for me I'm afraid bar the Project Natal stuff.
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @stevethemeat



    yep, I'd take a Trico or a new orignal Wii title over all the yearly Halo updates microsoft can pump out, as well as an eyetoy advanced
  • GreyBeard 5 years ago

    Not a bad showing. But the shiny tech and gimmickry hid what is in reality a fairly thin line-up games-wise.



    The smoke and mirrors stuff at the end annoyed me a bit though. The key problem with removing the physical interface is dealing with a virtual object feels incredibly unnatural due to the lack of resistance or tactile feedback.



    Its the same reason most games with motion controls rely upon throwing actions, because the weight of the controller gives your brain some feedback that you are performing a real action. You try to do the reverse -a pulling motion- and it just feels wrong because there's absolutely no resistance against the action.



    And that ultimately is the stumbling block. Punching actions will feel bizarre as the sensation from a blow connecting and missing is identical, you cant pull or drag because there's no way to simulate resistance - especially if the fiction is suggesting that you should be struggling against something...



    And beyond that there's all the complications involved in maintaining a "pure" playing environment. You need to factor in lighting and ambient sound levels, space sufficient for the focal length of the camera being used, making sure nothing or noone is obstructing the view or soundfield...



    There are a lot of variables to consider, even if the tech works as well as advertised which I'm not certain it will.



    Still, Forza and Alan Wake looked really good, just a bit disappointing that there were no real suprises aside from Left 4 Dead 2.













  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    jetlin and chris_ace: Oh just sod off. Maybe when you grow up you realize that trolling isn't cool. "Real gaming" - so all the games for the hard core games on the 360 will jsut vanish with the Nadal?



    I sold my Wii because I simply didn't find enough good games to keep it from getting dusty while waiting for the next game that interested me. The 360's advantage here is that it still has a catalogue of "regular" games that will appeal to the more hard core gamers while at the same time, if it works as well as it looks it does, being able to take a shot at the Wii-waggle-gaming-market.



    I personally think it looked real cool and far more fun that than the Wii-mote. But I trust Eurogamer will bring us some more info on how well it actually works soon. And the Milo-thingy - my impression was that it's not a proper game but more a tech-demo to test the Nadal.



    I think it was a great pressconference. Some very nice games (crackdown 2, Alan Wake and Forza M 3!!), some good reveals (FFXIII in spring 2010) and some cool non-gaming stuff (Last.fm = YES - how about doing the same for Spotify??, Movies and TV in Sweden = I hope I hope I hope, Facebook/Twitter= not so bothered but nice) and the Nadal (I'm actually really looking forward that = Minority Report style of navigating = Win for me).



    It will be interesting to see what Nintendo and Sony have up their sleaves.



  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @CalmBlueOcean



    glad you noticed that, something that not even sci fi writers have thought of supposedly! LOL!!



    oh dear peter, get some rest
  • stevethemeat 5 years ago

    @chris ace, ha ha



    wait your being serious.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "The next Xbox could feasinly become the next Wii, hopefully the big difference being that it'll actually have lots of great games."



    By which time nintendo would've come up with the next wii too...



  • GamesProgrammer 5 years ago

    So is natal just a software thing, or do we have to buy a new caera to replace the massivley unsuppoted vision camera
  • CalmBlueOcean 5 years ago

    methinks PM has forgotten how to bullshit it at E3... you are supposed to claim to be two or three years ahead of the curve, not pretend to have invented the greatest technology in the history of the world! (which is what conversant AI would be)



    Milo is a good test for which forumites you should listen to... anyone who thinks that is credible has NO IDEA what they are talking about and should be disregarded forever
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Microsoft to me seems like a very confused company they dont really know what they want to do.

    Alan Wake and Splinter cell might make me buy a 360 again.

    Still think sony will show games tomorrow that will surpass those.

    Uncharted 2 is still my tip for game of show.

  • Darren 5 years ago

    The thing about Project Natal is that the casual gamers aren't really interested in the Xbox 360 so I can't see it doing much for sales in the long run. I reckon it's come far too late into the Xbox 360's lifespan to make any real impact but it could really help sell the next Xbox if it's promoted heavily from Day One. The next Xbox could feasibly become the next Wii, hopefully the big difference being that it'll actually have lots of great games.
  • basalarmageddon 5 years ago

    my thought's from what I could watch,(thanks for cuting out every 2 fucking munits gametrailers) started out all right with a nice mix of causual game and hardcore but then went overboard with all the facetwitter eyetoy rip off which will only be used for god awful party game's causal family crap.
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    @stevethemeat



    with some original games
  • dredd97 5 years ago

    Natal looks impressive, but it's years off...also i'll need to ditch the sofa if i wanna use it..



    how much will it cost? and are we likely to see it on the next 360 and not this one?



    lets see if nintendo's will be the boring one again, and sony...well they go last again so i suppose it will be short of genuine surprises (unless their motion controller is good to go this year) and not so much vapourware...
  • sugarbaron 5 years ago

    Time to flog the 360 and go buy a PS3.



    Sony will have God of War 3... M$ have a Wii rip off and a peado simulator.
  • Rodchenko 5 years ago

    Impressive show. That motion-sensing thing looked really phenomenal. Alan Wake, while looking really good, felt a bit underwhelming, though, after all the wait. Like AitD plus the ax-throwing dudes from RE4. Crackdown 2 has also my interest. Meh to Halo, however. Blowing up a bridge. How exciting
  • GamesProgrammer 5 years ago

    @chris_ace



    it really would be hard for sony to follow with a motion camera, when they did it 5 years ago on the PS2
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "I weep for gaming if thats the future, can only pray Sony dont follow with their motion camera but i know they will."



    Sony have already done it.. it's called the eye toy..



    microsoft have just copied it and improved the tech (not hard considering how old the eye toy is).



    And just like the eyetoy - it wont work half as well as you thought it would, and all the games will be a bit crappy for it.



    (But I stand to be corrected)

  • brazzauk 5 years ago

    Hardly any new IP at all!!!! Very drab. I hate this new games fo retards that the consoles are taking!
  • stevethemeat 5 years ago

    How the hell are sony and ninty going to follow that
  • Cocytan 5 years ago

    And what happened to the Zune HD with the XBOX Live connectivity? XBLA Games? Sigh...
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >I am intrigued by this new Molyneux game



    Im intrigued by how much of it is typical molyneux bollocks and wont ever even end up even close to that.

  • DanC89 5 years ago

    So is that it now? :p
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    I weep for gaming if thats the future, can only pray Sony dont follow with their motion camera but i know they will. Well looks like PC is the last haven for real games
  • belziah 5 years ago

    ha ha
  • coolbritannia 5 years ago

    meh? ha ha ha



    so to top that sony have to have a halo game presented by john lennon controlled by his mind tomorrow....
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    @niteninja :

    So, let me ask you, you started by complaining why they were wasting so much time with the Beatles, than you said Xbox is but shooters, and for the big finale you complained about an impressive family friend tech. What would have pleased you?
  • jetli 5 years ago

    Eyetoy pedo cam and Cutscene Gear 5 and more Halo crap are the best they have to show?



    Fuck sake what a load of SHIT >:(
  • jaywalker3010 5 years ago

    some people really are stuck in their ruts aint they. nothing anyone does outside of their `darlings` will ever be good enough lol.. their loss
  • SpeedyThing 5 years ago

    Yup - that'll take some beating...
  • DrR0b3rts 5 years ago

    Blimey Charlie...overload.



    They could have stopped at last.fm and I would have been sorted.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Load of bollocks eyetoywiimote shit.



    I dunno.. it's OBVIOUSLY a cross between eye toy and wiimote. And i'm sceptical that it'll even work properly all the time (lighting conditions, etc).



    But I'm for it... At least it's not another shooter (which everything seemed to be until alan wake).



    But they're missing the BIG thing about the wiimote - which is the pointing device (perfect for shooters - which the 360 has millions of?)

  • basalarmageddon 5 years ago

    Zzzzzzzz... uh...wah, that it?
  • penhalion 5 years ago

    I knew about the motion thing but, I was oblivious to what it was supposed to do until now. Going to have to pester my boss to get some time with the sdk!



    Glad I'm an all consoles man and not just a PS3 or Wii owner. This nidal thing will be huge!
  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    amazing, no other word for it.
  • Diomedes 5 years ago

    Future ?I saw the same exact thing when Sony unveiled Eye Pet nearly a year ago.You write something and the camera recognizes it and puts it into screen .
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Overall I think they did a good job on all fronts. There was something for everyone if you take it at face value - they showed off quite a few nice games, social stuff and new features, and the Milo and Natal thing, if it actually works well, could be awesome. I think both the others will have to perform quite well to top that.
  • Cocytan 5 years ago

    Meh. I'm ungripped. And Don Mattrick is a cock of the highest order.
  • GamesProgrammer 5 years ago

    Milo seems very much like sonys virual pet that was shown over a year ago.
  • CallousB 5 years ago

    This virtual child stuff scares the shit out of me. It actually makes me want ot stop gaming ...it's very SKYNET. Stick to the painting and sports stuff.
  • gamerbunny 5 years ago

    Bravo Microsoft, bravo. Well played.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Ok I am off to party! I wanne talk to some guys ;)



    I can see them pulling this off in a few years... but I guess you have to start someday.
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    microsoft pedo simulator



    Looks a bit creepy to me,great technology for people with no real friends.

    Can see pedos everywhere buying that game.

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    It all looks impressive, but try that without a well scripted script.. I mean, why would you ask the child about his homework... come on were years off this technology being as good as it looks :)



    Still an impressive end to the show. Much much better than last year.
  • bobmar360 5 years ago

    they have just ripped sony to fuckin shreds
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    All sarcy remarks aside this is a genuinely impressive bit of consumer electronic technology. If I was still a child I could easily imagine being utterly enthralled by this (without ruling out the possibility as an adult either), and I'll be interested to see how it's used. They could really be on to something here.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    1080p streaming......not for 90% of people on the SHITTY UK broadband network..



  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    "Now you can enjoy full 1080P video. No disc. No delay" ********







    ******* May fucking well depend on your fucking broadband provider.
  • Darren 5 years ago

    Oh piss off with the 1080p video hype, Microsoft. There's absolutely no way the 360 can possibly beat watching a movie on an actual BD. I'm sorry but the bandwidth and storage capacity just is not there on the consoles.
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    @Emth, at CES there was a demonstration of a brand new voice formulation software that sounds natural, I wouldn't be surprised if MS/Lionhead was sponsoring that project, bought the tech or was developing something similar. It is possible, but I would be surprised if it was deployed so soon.
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Next gen started today.
  • Scimarad 5 years ago

    Now that's impressive...if a little creepy:)
  • evild_edd 5 years ago

    "Milo invites Claire to peer over the edge and down in the water. Her real-life reflection appears in the water. Now that's cool."



    Noooooo.....my days of playing 360 in the nude are over with all this camera malarkey!!!!
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    hold on! PM for the last 20 years has wanted to create a virutal boy?!? LOL
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    I can only surmise that Pete hasn't read a lot of sci-fi...
  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    "I am sure Michael Jackson will buy that Milo game. "



    Interactive.....the possiblities are endless.....Shamon!!!



    Coop with Gary Glitter, Chris Langham and Jonathan King. Kind of like a nonse L4D.
  • Emth 5 years ago

    Does he honestly expect us to believe that stuff isn't hardcoded in? I don't want to even get started with all the problems with voice recognition with languages/accents/dialects.
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

  • lavalant 5 years ago

    That is pretty fucking awesome.
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    So Lionhead have made a dog walkin game and now a child minding game...is he trying to train low skilled women to help get them off the dole?
  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    I am intrigued by this new Molyneux game. In fact I would love to play it half pissed and in german.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    The water relection thing is cool, the concept is a good one, but not sure how its going to work... maybe another 30 or 40 years, then this might work correctly, at the moment the child is just a set number of responses etc, not good enough AI..



    This is all very good and well, but this is well scripted, what happens when someone who doesnt know the sytem starts to make any conversation etc.
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    PM doesnt half talk a load of crap
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    PM has just create artificial life! Skynet has just went live!
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    hmm, I think this hits the uncanny valley.



    But demo wise it is very well done. The AR is nifty and a cleaner version of some of the AR bits I've seen demoed.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    "I am sure Michael Jackson will buy that Milo game. "



    Interactive.....the possiblities are endless.....Shamon!!!

  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    PM
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    "LOL RIP MICROSOFT "

    lol, you can't imagine how deluded that sounds, you should've said that before the conference!



    Ringo Starr, Spielberg, who's next? The Pope?
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Why are they showing a tech demo. I don't want to talk to a virtual boy for hours on end, I want to play games.
  • Machiavellian 5 years ago

    Personally, I also want the family stuff as well as your basic shooter,RPG,racer, action game. I am a father of 3 and sometimes I like to play with my kids and sometimes I want to play games that my kids should not be around.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    I am sure Michael Jackson will buy that Milo game.
  • 8bitMofo 5 years ago

    FINALLY, I HAVE A FRIEND, AND HIS NAME IS MILO!!
  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    Mr. Molyneux now... anyone want to place bets on the next one?



    I'll give 4:1 on Susan Boyle coming out to present Lips 2



    Satellite link-up from the Priory.
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    oh no, not him...



    Why all the Natal hate anyway? If they can make it work they could be a few more stupid Guitar Hero like party games and it doesn't look as if the hard core controller loving gamer is being abandoned.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "abby would you like to help me make an elephant? "





    (lol)

  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    All very impressive demos.... not my type of entertainment but I can see it selling to the Wii masses. I guess this is just the beginning for MS.... it will only really fly off next gen I guess.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    U tell em Pete.....yo bro..
  • Darren 5 years ago

    Oooo, hasn't Peter Molyneux got big ears? He could have stood in for the head of the elephant from the previous demo! Hehehe.
  • DanC89 5 years ago

    Goodness me it's going on forever..
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    Oh for fuck sake. So the fact that they also are working on stuff for another crowd than the action-gaming crowd is somehow bad? I want my 360 to serve both the needs for family games as well as the more hard-core games.



  • SpeedyThing 5 years ago

    Mr. Molyneux now... anyone want to place bets on the next one?



    I'll give 4:1 on Susan Boyle coming out to present Lips 2
  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    >Interactive PORN movies......here we cum.



    okay - i'm not so against it any more :-)



    And now you can upload your sex face on Facebook \o/
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Oh crap, PM is going to make something for Natal.. that is not as interesting as i was hoping :(
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    It's Moly



    This had better be fucking good.
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    LOL RIP MICROSOFT
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    "it just seems like dumb party games."





    Which makes Nintendo shit loads of cash....thats all they care about.

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Its seems ok, but the normal household is not like that well lit stage, or the room in the video.. I just think people will be very disappointed. Though at least its moving technology forward...
  • jetli 5 years ago

    This is excruciatingly shit. Up until Alan Wake, it was only 'meh', but now I'm wondering why the fuck I ever bothered with 360.



    Load of bollocks eyetoywiimote shit.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Interactive PORN movies......here we cum.



    okay - i'm not so against it any more :-)

  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    Why is everything Brown this generation ?







    Ohhh, and green.
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    I don't want games to be a social experience with friends, I play games to get away from them. How is this going to compete with games like mass effect or inFamous, it just seems like dumb party games.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Interactive PORN movies......here we cum.

  • MORZTAN 5 years ago

    Preset waggle-dance :)



    What a douche!
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    But how much does it cost......
  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    Real world physics my arse.



    Looks like something some potential demographic would love though..
  • Stupid_Fat_Hobbit 5 years ago

    Waggle controls? Oh no he din't!
  • smelly 5 years ago

    hhahaha.. the avatar demo at the start doesnt even work properly.. the leg just went all rubber

  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Natal is awesome in principle, but I will wait to see how it actually works outside of the demo floor to judge it properly.
  • captainrentboy 5 years ago

    Some interesting game announcements, especially Crackdown 2, but I really couldn't give a fuck about motion control, the Wii's bores me silly after 10 minutes use and this will be the same, if it actually works properly. (Let's not forget the disaster that was 'You're in the movies')

    Good conference though, bit of something for everyone in there, well everyone but die hard, blinkered, Nintendo lovers.
  • byron_hinson 5 years ago

    If I get naked can i bounce the ball on my cock and balls
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    I actually think Natal is damn cool. The navigation is Minority Report-style. It also seems to work really well although of course how it works in a badly lit room is a question.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    COSMIC SMASH!!!!!!!!!!
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    And of woman to do the movement demo.
  • byron_hinson 5 years ago

    Please tell me I won't have to stand up for this and it won't become a "Standard" like the NXE
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    Lol, i feel bad for him... or i would if he didn't wear shades
  • Mr_Bogus 5 years ago

    That family had a damn huge living room.
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    Eminem + K-Fed= this asshole.
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Natalfail.



    I don't know if the spazz was deliberate, but it just lost any credibility.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Wearing shades indoors.....clearly a tosser.

  • smelly 5 years ago

    he's been talking to speilburg for years apparently about how to include more people into games by a new controller...



    ... and not since nintendo were succesful at all...

  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Amistad the game.



    /crosses fingers



    Best comment.
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    Bono wannabe?
  • Emth 5 years ago

    What a load of corporate bullshit. Is it just me or is the games industry becoming worse as it grows?
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    They'll have to explain how Raiden ended up a cyborg, that'll take a while.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    hahahahahaha.. Speilburg.. That'll teach you nintendo.. lol



    (sigh)

  • septimus 5 years ago

    Oh god. More Nintendo shit. The will take EyeToy and somehow make it for old ladies. Kind of like Wii 2 where it has pensioner mode.
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    Project Natal? Did Project Placenta not get past the focus group?
  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    Amistad the game.



    /crosses fingers.



  • bad09 5 years ago

    OK I'm out at human waggle, see ya tomorrow guys!



    Really good show though, some really good games to look forward to though, much better show than last year. I wonder what Sony will have. (not that bothered about Ninty but will have a giggle!).



    (Spielberg shut up about games please, just because you've lost your movie magic don't bring gamers down!)

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    I noticed in the promo video for Natal that the monster was already stomping before the kid did... so i'm not 100% sure its as good as they are trying to make out.
  • DanC89 5 years ago

    Credit Crunch? What credit crunch...MS have most probably splashed out a billion on their guest speakers o.o And another billion to Koj Productions.
  • Darren 5 years ago

    I wonder how much Microsoft paid Steven Speilberg to give that little speech!
  • smelly 5 years ago

    hahaha.. that bit was ace!



    "this is controller based entertainment"



    (waits for clap.. no-one does)



    So he starts clapping and everyone gets the hint

  • peterfll 5 years ago

    Who next - Hare Krishna?
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    MGS raiden should be class.
  • byron_hinson 5 years ago

    New Boom Blox coming I'm sure!! lol
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    "video game council"....luz...spot the civilian.

  • FightingMongoose 5 years ago

    Game council?
  • Rodchenko 5 years ago

    That no-controller thing actually looks very cool
  • smelly 5 years ago

    i can see you waving your body about and it not picking up half the movements.



    Its bad enough when the wiimote doesnt recognise your waggles...

  • kinky_mong 5 years ago

    "Not MGS4 then. Some Raiden spin-off. I'm putting money on it being pure action with no stealth."



    Thank fuck!
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Steven Spielberg?



    Err . . . OK.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Lol the selling point is "This will work with all Xboxs sold and those in the future".. /man claps...lol



    I agree Dizzy, that seems too good to be true with the current state of hardware/voice... I mean how long has Dragon Simply speaking been going, and its still cack!
  • Darren 5 years ago

    Hmmm, the "you as the controller" thing looks kind of cool, assuming it really does work as well as that trailer suggested. It's kind of the next step up from the Wii (I bet Nintendo will be jealous). I hope it does well, deffo looks interesting even if you're just navigating the dashboard windows.
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    If they manage to pull that off cleanly... I'll eat something, it'd be my hat if I had one.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    full body motion capture?



    looks a bit too much like excercise for my liking :-)



    I'll stick with waving my arm around. :-D

  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Somebody phone for Jason....to slaughter all these puke inducing American famalies...
  • Widge 5 years ago

    I'd go for MGSRacing, I like anything with cutscenes
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Project Natal?



    WTF is it being developed by a Boer or something?
  • smelly 5 years ago

    its the bloody eye toy

  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Looks a bit too futuristic... will never work like that IMHO.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Hmm voice activation, now that is cool, as long as it works better than vista voice... which is just pile of steaming rubbish.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    God I'm old....



    / upgrades PC ;)
  • byron_hinson 5 years ago

    well its the same MGS title announced in the PS mags this week so wasn't exclusive to 360 - probably meant up til that point
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Looks like a Nintendo advert... Nice idea on the hardware, but will it work in a badly lit room? I do think this kind of thing is the future... but i dont think the hardware is there yet
  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    I wonder if it is required to have a carpet with various sized rings on it?





    ; )

  • evild_edd 5 years ago

    McCartney or Hieo???



    McCartney can get fucked as far as I'm concerned!!! Though it would be amusing to ask him if he'd "ever go down on one knee again" (and pray for the "her name is Heather" response!!!)
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    More advanced version of the Eyetoy?
  • TheStatics 5 years ago

    Microsoft guy said that all the games from a certain point in the show were 360 exclusive. I'm guessing the new MGS one will be 360 only.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Oh no the motion is coming. Sick bags ready boys!



    lmao.



    well if it has a pointer like the wiimote - i'm all for it..

  • lavalant 5 years ago

    This is just embarrassing
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    oh dear! massive FACE PALM!
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    "Here come the new hardware"



    Or lack thereof.
  • Iain815 5 years ago

    Paul.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Oh no the motion is coming. Sick bags ready boys!
  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    Who is this guy? Oh yeah, some guy I for some reason do not like.



    Stop talking show the goods.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    and here comes the new hardware....
  • evild_edd 5 years ago

    MGS on 360. Oh dear, the thread is dead with PS3 fanbois claiming they aren't interested in the series anymore anyway!!! ;0)
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Here's the controller.
  • spimmy 5 years ago

    no mass effect 2 yet :(
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    Guessin it's not exclusive.
  • MORZTAN 5 years ago

  • Darren 5 years ago

    Wow, nice, a brand new Metal Gear Solid for the Xbox 360, who saw that coming? While I'm sure it's not the game most Xbox 360 want to play, it's still very nice to have IMO. MGS4 was awesome, can't wait to see what this new game is like. Hopefully it won't come on 10 DVDs!!! :)
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    @jiveguy



    Yeah, I thought that as well.
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Thank you! Thank you! It has been a great show. You Americans really know how to throw a party.



  • DanC89 5 years ago

    Another Microsoft Megaton (TM).
  • chris_ace 5 years ago

    no metal gear solid, but a spin off game which is obviously on ps3 aswell by the sounds of it. no as epic as ff13 announcment
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    yeah....wheres the Xbox 720??????





    waste of time.

  • smelly 5 years ago

    Oh gawd.. No.



    "all 360 owners wanted to play mgs" apparently



    (i didnt, thats why i got 360)

  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    @Bobmar



    It'll probably come out on PS3 as well, or Ps3 will also get a new iteration. I don't think the Japanese would stand for it.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    I am a PS3 user and I thought MSG was boring crap, so I wont be getting it on the xbox either!! :D
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    Not MGS4 then. Some Raiden spin-off. I'm putting money on it being pure action with no stealth.
  • septimus 5 years ago

    Facebook and Twitter? Fuck of MS. Some good games. More games please and less superficial fluff.



    k - edit - Not MGS 4, a spin off possibly? During the events or just before 4?
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Ah man it's carebear Raiden :(



    PS3 fans rejoice :)
  • smelly 5 years ago

    here we go.. .wiimote rip off ahoy!



    (hoping.. it'll be great for shooters)

  • LazyDan 5 years ago

    MEGATON HAS LANDED!
  • coolbritannia 5 years ago

    MGS! MEGATON!!!
  • smelly 5 years ago

    I take it back.. Alan Wake looks great in comparision to this boring shit



    Actually it didnt look bad.. i was just being grumpy - it looked like the contorls werent great... and too many cutscenes...



    but that's just what i got from video.

  • bobmar360 5 years ago

    looks like PS3 is FUCKED NOW!!!

  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    Could be completely wrong but I have a feeling the last thing they'll announce is a new MGS instalment. They'll want that fanboy baiting FFXIII type announcement to finish on like last year.



    Stone me, I was right!
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    MGS on 360...



    'Victoly'



  • lavalant 5 years ago

    Sony fanboys are slitting their wrists.
  • jiveguy 5 years ago

    Did that american chap just try to say Metal Gear Solid with a racist jap accent "Metal Geel Sorid!"
  • P.I.Staker 5 years ago

    Hideo
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Uh-oh it's gonna be a shit storm HOLD ON!!!!!!!!!!



    / ties himself to the desk..
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    MGS as expected....



    Oh dear.. NEOGaf meltdown.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Worst kept secret.... MSG for the XBox...
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    It's funny - the comments - we have ppl complaining about being all shooters, and another saying is just social shit... eheheh!
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    "truly historic'.........



    LOL.....spot the suit.

  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Wow.



    They didn't just do that.



    They didn't O_O.



    MGS -> X360 O_O
  • smelly 5 years ago

    Enoguh of this "media hub" bullshit.. show us games!

  • TheStatics 5 years ago

    MGS.. oh me.
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    "man she sounds annoyingly "sweet"



    My thoughts exactly.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    This part of the show is where they lose me...... pointless and useless stuff (I am sure sony will do the same with home stuff tomorrow).
  • MasterNameless 5 years ago

    "That Last.fm partnership has the potential for absolute greatness. Streaming ridiculous amounts of music for free! Yes please!"



    Yeah, I agree. Especially if you can stream whilst playing games... \o/
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Never used facebook or twitter I use the old method of talking to people over a phone.

  • smelly 5 years ago

    man she sounds annoyingly "sweet"

  • bad09 5 years ago

    OK as soon as they started on Live....Zzzzzzzz....
  • Darren 5 years ago

    Haha... love the bullshit about how watching 1080p movies from Xbox LIVE will be the best way to experience them.



    Yeah sure, Microsoft, will they offer the exact same hi-def audio and video quality as 30 to 50 GB Blu-ray (BD) releases and with subtitles (something none of their current movies have), P-i-P and all the extras too? My guess is that these movies will still be heavily compressed and inferior to watching them on a disc. How can they not be? Fine, if that's what you want but, puuuuuuuurlease, they definitely won't be better than watching them on a disc, something you can watch whenever you want not have to rent. That's just an outright lie, probably aimed at belittling Sony's BD format.
  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    "You will be able to post images and text in realtime"



    LOL



    Nice feature but I imagine the poor girl has no idea what it means.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "You've never seen facebook on your tv"





    yes i have.. my pc is attached to my 52" 1080p tv...

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Facebook on the Xbox, why oh why! Seems like MS jumping on the Home/Social thingy idea.



    Isnt it just better to use the PC for this.. I mean unless you have one of those controller keyboards or a usb keyboard, its pretty pointless... just use the PC.
  • kinky_mong 5 years ago

    That Last.fm partnership has the potential for absolute greatness. Streaming ridiculous amounts of music for free! Yes please!
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Facebook.....WTF



    Thats no good for me.....i've got no friends.



  • lavalant 5 years ago

    Where's Rare? I want my Perfect Dark on xbla
  • smelly 5 years ago

    Oooh 1080p movies.. I'm interested in that

  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Facebook?



    Eugh, hate it, but it's big.
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    Arshavin's 4th goal clip was by far the best thing about this press conference.
  • kinky_mong 5 years ago

    "sigh grow up.. "



    Irony. OVERLOAD.
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    lol @ Darren and the Crysis thing. Oh man, get over it, it's been what? 2-3 months?
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Cough up that list of Zune Video countries, Microsoft. I want to check if mine is in there.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Facebook? Game over man.
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    "*sigh* - fucking children"



    That's illegal.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    WOW! I can watch tv on my games console!



    (erm.. why?)

  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    Whoa - did they actually include video and movies download to Sweden??? Anyone saw the Swedish flag in there :)?
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Their movie stuff is going to require some serious hardware investement.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >Don't worry Smelly, Nintendo will blow your socks off tomorrow



    sigh grow up.. i've stated NUMEROUS times that i've spend more time playing 360 than wii.



    child.



    Just because i dont do the "cool internet forum nerd" thing by slagging off nintendo all the time (and will poitn out when people are doing so) - it doesnt mean i prefer one over the other (if i did - itd be 360... When it's not broken down)



    *sigh* - fucking children

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    I think MS are doing ok so far, better than last year... to be honest I think they should have shown more L4D and perhaps more/different of Alan wake.. I know many (including me) thought L4D was lacking in depth, but hopefully they learnt that, and I would be showing what is now included - or is it just the same things :|

  • Widge 5 years ago

    FUCK OFF NEW HARDWARE COMMENT
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    Love the enthusiasm of the US audience for the Sky announcement. :D
  • DanC89 5 years ago

    Here comes the megaton?
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    LOL @ the subdued cheer about test cricket.
  • captainrentboy 5 years ago

    Don't worry Smelly, Nintendo will blow your socks off tomorrow, what with their highly original titles like WiiFit2, Mario 156, and Zelda 'Still not as good as OOT'' 25.
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Hey, an Xbox Live service available around the world for a change. Now we're talking.
  • Darren 5 years ago

    I'm watching the live stream on GamesTrailer although I've only seen about 30 minutes so far. I like what I saw of Forza 3, especially as the graphics look massively overhauled and the cars featured dashboard views at long last. Hopefully there'll be lots of tracks and new ones too otherwise I fear it'll get as dull as Forza 2 did. Hopefully not.



    I wasn't in the slightest bit impressed with what I saw of Halo 3 ODST but then I've played Crysis and Warhead on the PC so everything other FPS, Killzone 2 included, just appears inferior IMO. It lacks the kind of attention to detail I expect from a current FPS as I see buttons and levers are still magically used without any actual physical interaction, which kind of looks silly these days. Yes, it's only a minor thing but it destroys any semblance of reality. The game doesn't look rubbish or anything, granted, just a little predictable and uninspired from that demo footage I saw, albeit that's just a very small section of the game. Didn't particularly like Halo 3 so I doubt I'll be bothering with this new game at all.
  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    Could be completely wrong but I have a feeling the last thing they'll announce is a new MGS instalment. They'll want that fanboy baiting FFXIII type announcement to finish on like last year.
  • SpeedyThing 5 years ago

    Spring 2010? I'll believe that when I see it... Did look good though.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Im still playing AITD, which except or the abysmal controls would be a pretty good game... not sure I want to play another AITD game though :|
  • smelly 5 years ago

    controls look "clunky" on it too.. hopefully that's just because guy who's playing it is a retard

  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    oooohhh...nice particle fx going on there.
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Alan Wake looked good. Very good.



    But SPRING 2010! :'(
  • smelly 5 years ago

    >We need more games like Allen Wake. That looks great.



    it looks like alone in the dark

  • bad09 5 years ago

    "Is it me or does Alan Wake remind me of Alone in the Dark :| "



    Ah, glad it's not just me! Mind you AITD wasn't THAT bad!
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Wake looks like AotD. I don't know, it doesn't do anything for me. Let's see some new hardware now, Microsoft.
  • captainrentboy 5 years ago

    Fucking Crackdown Twooooooooo!!!

    That will be all.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    We need more games like Allen Wake. That looks great.
  • TheLittlestHobo 5 years ago

    sod the boring HALO crap, this is what I want Alan Wake shit!
  • smelly 5 years ago

    i like the "action man" look-a-like playing it though.. he looks bored.

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Is it me or does Alan Wake remind me of Alone in the Dark :|
  • smelly 5 years ago

    man alan wake looks dull...

  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    Finally something I want to play. Alan Wake should be excellent.
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    Oni Alpha - nice reference to a Bungie series that I actually would like to see more of.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Allen Wake :)
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Ah Alan Wake, finally.. 2009 or 2010....mmm
  • Luckyjim 5 years ago

    "Master Chief Goes Large" - on the cooking theme



  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Alan Wake
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Halo Reach, well that didnt tell anyone anything! :D
  • smelly 5 years ago

    Or "Cooking with Master Chief"

  • smelly 5 years ago

    I want to see Halo Kart

  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Here we go - new Halo.
  • DanC89 5 years ago

    How many Forza games is it now after GT4? :p
  • Widge 5 years ago

    There we go, L4D2 on PC, November
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Don't worry, it'll sell 10 million nonetheless.
  • Widge 5 years ago

    Hopefully some Splinter Cell vids will go up... can't be arsed with stream.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    sigh.....do you remember when a HALO game at E3 was saved till last, as THE announcement for Microsoft......
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    I don't know what I was hoping for, but I know I'm not getting it.



    Likewise.
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    ODST looks great.



    And Tricia Helfer



    hawt



    The guy doing the demo sounds like a complete douche.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    wish they'd just get on with it and show off their wiimote rip off

  • byron_hinson 5 years ago

    Yeah I know it was PC as well - this conference is about consoles not PC's - it was a Xbox exclusive thats all. It'll be out on the PC - Valve always do
  • NewbieZilla 5 years ago

    I don't know what I was hoping for, but I know I'm not getting it.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Wow Halo ODS looks hot
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Thats now what i said? I said the work involved in programming such a game, modelling, physics, handling suffers when you have to include that many cars...



    Halo... kinda knew this one was coming :D
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    HALO!
  • jiveguy 5 years ago

    That forza video stuff was impressive...





    Plus Los Campesinos!
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    So a bunch of people driving badly makes a good racing game...
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Sentence of the show "Leading game of the generation".... stop saying that over and over again.



    Does sound like it is a competitor to Prologue in the number of cars etc, but like the Sony game, I'm never convinced that the number of cars equals the best game of a generation...hehe... just because of the effort involved in modelling, damage, handling etc for every single car.
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    lulz at the fat bastard.....

  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Crackdown 2 made my day already. I'm really excited, like a freakin teen or something.



    Bagpuss: buddy, he said loud and clear, 60fps.
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Splinter cell is the only game thats impressed me so far.

    Modern warfare looks great but it looks just the same as the last two where is the originality?
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    Bagpuss - hmm, he clearly said it was 60 fps.

  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Forza 3 60FPS....Bagpuss FAIL.

  • Turambar 5 years ago

    This forza guy is a tool.
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    Forza looks nice but its no grand turismo :p



    ... i'm just bitter that my x-box just broke.
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    60 fps .... niiiiice!

    Got to say I like that they show gameplay for all the games instead of just prerendered trailers .
  • kinky_mong 5 years ago

    Left 4 Dead 2 and Crackdown 2!!!! End the conference now,any other announcement is moot!!



    God bless you Valve and your laziness in making a sequel to the best multiplayer game ever when you probably should be making HL2: Ep 3!!!
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Forza 3 still only 30fps.....FAIL.

  • evaluna 5 years ago

    "Sam is strangling a chap in a men's urinal.



    Is that a euphemism?"



    Post of the thread.





  • Avaloner 5 years ago

    The conviction demo took place in Valletta, Malta... cool
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Still wondering what MS needed that extra 5 minutes for... they certainly didnt need it yet.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    "A racing game, hmm there is alot of competition for racing games... not sure how they will stand up against the "large number of other racing games this year"."





    And shooters dont? :-)

  • bad09 5 years ago

    Ooh Forza 3. nice....



    In car! \o/
  • Widge 5 years ago

    Objectives appearing as part of background, I like that idea.



    EDIT:



    Actually Dead Space was quite good at merging the hud with environment.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    A racing game, hmm there is alot of competition for racing games... not sure how they will stand up against the "large number of other racing games this year".
  • smelly 5 years ago

    i didnt like L4D.. But that's mainly because i didnt have any friends to play with :-)

  • Widge 5 years ago

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    L4D is best played on a PC.. so if its released on a PC, then thats a win, but not a massive win for MS.
  • Turambar 5 years ago

    For those not watching a video stream the L4D2 trailer ended with "Exclusive to xbox 360 and PC"
  • Stupid_Fat_Hobbit 5 years ago

    I don't think these console types count the PC in their petty exclusive-squabbling
  • oxymoron 5 years ago

    it said l4d 2 was xoming to pxc also, learn to read and don't be blinkered by fanboyism
  • AphoticCosmos 5 years ago

    Watching Splinter Cell on gamespot.



    Looks.



    Fucking.



    Amazing.



    Sorry I doubted you Ubi.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    meh.. didnt like splinter cell either... Show burnout!

  • DanC89 5 years ago

    @byron_hinson



    And the PC of course.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    SC:C is looking pretty tasty :)
  • Widge 5 years ago

  • MossyMos 5 years ago

    Nooo! He said sandbox. I want my Sam Fisher games to be somewaht linear.

  • oxymoron 5 years ago

    l4d is best on PC
  • consignia 5 years ago

    Sam is strangling a chap in a men's urinal.



    Is that a euphemism?
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    @byron_hinson L4D was on the PC as well. Guess Valve sold out.
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    L4D2 looks good, first one tempted me to get a 360.

  • gaselite 5 years ago

    God. that splinter cell trailer was frighteningly cringe-worthy. Inexplicable, heavy-handed piano-imagery, awful dialogue which was hardly helped by terrible line readings. yuck.
  • DeJay 5 years ago

    Left 4 Dead 2 and Crackdown 2......Woot!
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    CESM take the stage...
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Crackdown 2..., that settles...



    bows to the masters of video gaming.
  • byron_hinson 5 years ago

    Left4Dead 1 was only on Xbox too - so what?
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    It will be on the PC also i would suspect.



    Splinter Cell video looks good.



    So far Splinter Cell and L4D2 are the key brands.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Michael Ironside always a winner!
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Microsoft got anything that isnt a shooter?
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    LFD 2 only on the xbox :(
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    Left4Dead 2. ZOMG!
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    This has to be Splinter Cell.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    L4D2 \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    L4D 2. Nice
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Crackdown video didnt look that good, but at least they have L4D2.. thats cool.
  • TheStatics 5 years ago

    Crackdown 2.. looks pish.
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    Crackdown ahhh my friend.
  • Dizzy 5 years ago

    CRACKDOWN 2!!!



    /faints
  • FightingMongoose 5 years ago

    Yes it is. GET THE FUCK IN THERE.
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Holy crap, crackdown!
  • Zomoniac 5 years ago

    Crackdown?!
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Arent E3's a load shit without new console hardware launches.......
  • FightingMongoose 5 years ago

    Gotta be Crackdown 2!
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    /claps enthusiastically
  • Zomoniac 5 years ago

    Joy Ride looks proper wank.
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Splinter cell conviction looks like the only great exclusive ms game.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Joyride... hmmm, this is pretty poor so far. Come on wheres the real games..
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Why are those avatars always so damned excited?
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Avatars.... :(
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    Now thats more like it, it looks really cool!! I love the foam gun.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    ignoring video now.. dont like cliff

  • TheStatics 5 years ago

    Epic announce LIVE arcade title... well, they've another company doing it for them by the sounds of it. 'Shadow Complex', looks pretty cool, like a modern Flashback!!
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Firefox does seem to cause problems with xbox.com. If you have IE the official site works fine guys!
  • MORZTAN 5 years ago

    Malfunctioning mike... Epic fail!
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Sound Malfunction... Epic ;)



    Ok so crash commando type game on Xbox live.. I really thought this was going to be something epic :(
  • Zomoniac 5 years ago

    Epic 2D XBLA game?! That guy's mic is fucked on my feed.
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    Donald Mustard....terrible name.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    YAY!! Final fantasy - probably the first one i'll play since FF 8...

  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Bezinsky is smirking because he keeps thinking "Please laugh at my shirt please laugh at my shirt please laugh at my shirt."
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    oooh mic malfunction for Epic!
  • TheStatics 5 years ago

    MW2 map packs to hit 360 before PS3.. FFXIII showing was rather underwhelming!!
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Final Fantasy 2010...



    Kinda boring so far...



    Ah ok now only 360... this is more like it
  • Bagpuss 5 years ago

    Final Fantasy stuff now......YAWN.BORING.BORING.BORI
    NG.



    Random battle tediousness......



  • Inigo 5 years ago

    "And it's over. "Infinity Ward has once again outdone themselves," says John Schappert. "That was insanely good," says Mark Rein in my ear."



    I bet he hates those Infinity Ward guys!
  • Vasenor 5 years ago

    hmm, I can't get the live feed from xbox.com to work on FireFox. IE8 works though...
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    / claps! claps! (oooh... a bit, too!)
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    I'm watching fine @ http://www.xbox.com/en-gb/e309/d
    efault.htm
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Instant buy anyway, and not bothered to much about SP, but MW looks sexy.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    so far so dull.. come on microsoft... dont make me buy a ps3... :-(

  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    http://e3.gamespot.com/press-con
    ference/... is working fine for me, better than xbox.com.



    God that ice-climbing in MW2 must me boring to play.
  • kinky_mong 5 years ago

    "In the interest of time"



    Why not skip that whole section entirely? Way to follow up the Beatles with a Gamestation employee playing a sidling sim.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    YAY!! More monochrome graphics!!



    it's like the spectrum all over again...

  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Not good for the good old games news sites that it all comes crashing down so easily...such a big industry but cannot manage live webcasts yet ....lol. Gamespot is the current working site, for how long i dont know. :D
  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    you can watch it now live on xbox.com
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    @Negotiator you mean everything is all formats... right ?
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    but MW2 is pretty much a lock.
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    watching other people play games isn't any less boring when they do it on a stage with a huge screen.
  • Zomoniac 5 years ago

    Fucking hell MW2 looks gorgeous! The official feed is working fine for me, GT and IGN not working.
  • TheStatics 5 years ago

    http://www.xbox.com/en-gb/e309 buffering but showing MW2 gameplay!
  • Inigo 5 years ago

    Tony Hawk and the Beatles!! Who says Microsoft isn't relevant any more.
  • smelly 5 years ago

    And to think.. this time last year everyone took the piss out of nintendos wii music presentation where they were playing imaginary instruments...

  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    I thought that Tony Hawk game was coming out on the Wii also? MS show is very confusing so far... cant tell what is exclusive or not.





    Everything.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Try IGN, its streaming fine for me.



    Spoke so soon. (now its not)..lol
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    I thought that Tony Hawk game was coming out on the Wii also? MS show is very confusing so far... cant tell what is exclusive or not.
  • MrWonderstuff 5 years ago

    Gametrailers link?
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    Damn, just as they started showing the games the bitrate from IGn dropped from around 1000 Kbps to 150 Kbps and it is stalling all the time ...
  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    "Instead we're going to see 10 brand new games never seen before."



    I think your telling porkys.
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    Uncomfortable Tony is on stage.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Anyone who buys that TH board better be 12 or under! :)
  • Rodchenko 5 years ago

    Haha, Ringo... hilarious: "The game is good. The graphics are good. Thanks for having us."



    // "Now give me my half-million dollar check"
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    "We are going to deliver Ivan more..."



    Who's that?
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Doesnt look like you get the humour either...lol
  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    "The game is great, the graphics are great, we were great," says Ringo.



    Don't say that, it makes you sound like a big headed git.
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Wow Paul and Ringo on stage, shame the crowd didnt get the jokes.. I thought they were very funny :D
  • bad09 5 years ago

    nice one makeamazing was using the official site. Silly me!
  • gaselite 5 years ago

    god I wish the fat nerds in the audience would stop cheering. it's pathetic.
  • P.I.Staker 5 years ago

    Has anybody got a feed that actually works?
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    They couldn't cut 5mins from this shit?



    How much do you reckon the Beetles will get from this?
  • Darkedge 5 years ago

    why does that talentless hack Yoko have anything to do with this - why won't she just go away
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Sir Paul McCartney ??!!



    MS on spending spree...
  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    The beatles wtf, are they still together?
  • ruckus 5 years ago

    no - don't stay, just fuck off...
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Go to Ign or Game trailers... all working fine :)



    So is Beatles Rockband Multiplatform? Seems strange they are spending so much time on a game that is multi platform.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Is anyone able to watch this?? I think the entire world is watching E3!!
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    Working class guitar hero, ftw.
  • Peew971 5 years ago

    live feed is on at xbox.com but no sound :/
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Dont want to ruin any surprises, so as the video is slower than the chat wont be following Ellie. :(
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    http://e3.g4tv.com/e32009/pressc
    onferenc...
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    G4tv *finally* kicks in.
  • hoathenfold 5 years ago

    I thought we could watch this live at xbox.com - im getting nothing? wierd?
  • SwedBear 5 years ago

    nice, my IGN feed is about 1 minute behind Ellie so I might as well follow Ellie instead
  • miiiguel 5 years ago

    / claps!
  • seasidebaz 5 years ago

    Apparently I can watch live on this page...



    Stupid Microsoft and their stupid internet.
  • MORZTAN 5 years ago

    Boring! Fail already from the beginning
  • Entity 5 years ago

    ffs, looks like I'm here for a while.



    Crappy GT, IGN and G4TV!
  • BrokenSymmetry 5 years ago

    Is Mark Rein flirting with Ellie?
  • Psychotext 5 years ago

    Gabbly: http://www.eurogamer.net/article
    s/micros...


    It's a bit flaky though.
  • Widge 5 years ago

    ahem
  • Widge 5 years ago

    I RECKON Halo: Reach, rumoured over the weekend, is in there, as is Joy Ride, Shadow Complex, Alan Wake, Forza Motorsport 3 and EA's game The Saboteur, will be in there
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Expect microsoft to show lots of third party games with secured exclusive downloadable content.

    Maybe killer instinct maybe.

  • BrokenSymmetry 5 years ago

    4 minutes left!
  • niteninja 5 years ago

    Eurogamer is shite,cant even get live streaming from them.
  • Negotiator 5 years ago

    This is gonna be good, could be best MS conference ever.
  • bad09 5 years ago

    Woohoo bring it on MS!
  • Burkey123 5 years ago

    I'm looking forward to this I have to say. I own a wii and ps3 but I'm still interested in what Microsoft have to announce.
  • oceanmotion 5 years ago

    Here!
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Yes they really need to get better servers, and a live feed... :D
  • soarous 5 years ago

    Anyway to pick this up on twitter?

    I'm heading out in 5 mins!
  • uglygamer 5 years ago

    Will EG be able to hold up under the weight this year?



    They should especially considering they aint even showing a live video feed.
  • ronuds 5 years ago

    Will EG be able to hold up under the weight this year?
  • TheLittlestHobo 5 years ago

    I hope they all have killer conferences this year as it is is all good for the disgruntled gamer. Hoping Sony have a particularly exciting one as their previous efforts were disappointing to say the least. Love these e3 shits, exciting!! :)
  • El-Dev 5 years ago

    GiantHaystax, there hasn't been a presentation yet. Why would you want to vote on who won E3 before it happened?
  • GamesConnoisseur 5 years ago

    Before anyone come in pissing on MS/Sony/Nintendo parades BEFORE the actual substances that deserves our scorns or individuals opinions, MAY we wish all the platform holders and publishers/devs the BEST and hoping for juicy bits to sate us for the next year or two!



    ROLL on MS show and I m curious what they had been keeping hidden?!
  • Nemesis 5 years ago

    http://www.xbox.com/en-gb/e309



    For the live video feed, apparently.
  • lavalant 5 years ago

    I think you can see a live stream on your xbox, says so on xbox.com.
  • roz123 5 years ago

    the only question is, who or what will they copy next?
  • TheStylishHobo 5 years ago

    I'll be using IGN for my live feed as they have an immensely good live player called "Move". I was on a 512kb connection last year and it still gave me seamless high quality video.



    Looking forward to reading this while listening to the audio heavy parts of the conference :]
  • stevetuck 5 years ago

    Im predicting wankage over the Halo:oDST and a eyetoy ripoff...



    No need to read it anymore :)
  • effinwooly 5 years ago

    IGN have the live feed also
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    Cool, thanks.
  • JayeM 5 years ago

    What's that chat thing we usually do for this?
  • makeamazing 5 years ago

    Ah yes, thought GT would have it :)
  • Garulon 5 years ago

    Can't wait for huge pauses followed by apologies as this breaks down AGAIN.
  • Scrumhalf 5 years ago

    Ill be on a train - any idea which is the best feed for an iPhone?
  • Zomoniac 5 years ago

    GameTrailers and Xbox.com both doing live streams, apparently.
  • rotmm 5 years ago

    @Domovoi,



    Gametrailers is where I'll be watching, but I'll also be following the livetext here for the giggles.
  • GiantHaystax 5 years ago

    Is the who won e3 poll up yet?
  • Der_tolle_Emil 5 years ago

    Have you finally fixed your javascript magic so it works with Opera as well (again, it was working once)? I really enjoy the commentary of you guys but they simply aren't working anymore :(
  • Benno 5 years ago

    when is it in GMT?
  • Domovoi 5 years ago

    So where can we see a livestream? I don't need people to tell me what happens when I can see it for myself.
  • BrokenSymmetry 5 years ago

    Ha, Ellie will be commentating. This is going to be epic!
  • Skooch 5 years ago

    Looking forward to this!

Our live coverage has now ended. Here's what you missed: Updating...

18:26 By Robert Purchese

Hello! Ellie's taking her seat at the conference now. We'll begin shortly!


18:26 By Robert Purchese

We're in! We're in the second row from the front in fact, sat next to Mark Rein. "How did you get such a good seat?" he asks.


18:26 By Robert Purchese

"I'm quite a big deal," I say. "I know," says Mark Rein. "I knew you were a big deal before you did."


18:26 By Robert Purchese

The stage is set. There are four raised circular platforms, lots of circles and some loud guitar music. The lighting scheme, unsurprisingly, is green.


18:26 By Robert Purchese

I've asked Mark Rein if he's going to announce Gears of War 4 today, or just 3. "Haha, funny," he says.


18:27 By Robert Purchese

BUT! "We are going to announce a completely new game," says Rein. "It's true. We are." [Told you so! - Ed]


18:28 By Robert Purchese

It's started! With a The Beatles: Rock Band trailer. Nice cartoony animations of The Beatles running from fans while "A Hard Day's Night" plays.


18:29 By Robert Purchese

Mark Rein "can't wait" for The Beatles: Rock Band, Mark Rein fans. "Paperback Writer" now. The animations are cel-shaded and very cool, but is this game footage?


18:30 By Robert Purchese

Trailer finishes with "I am the Walrus" and lots of clapping. "Please welcome Alex Rigopolous" plus some other bloke whose name I didn't catch.


18:31 By Robert Purchese

Turns out the video we just saw was the in-game opening cut-scene. Which bodes well. Now some guys are on stage with instruments - could it be the Fab Four?


18:32 By Robert Purchese

It's the Harmonix houseband. Oh. On the big screen we can see what looks like a Guitar Hero game, but with The Beatles appearing as the avatars in the background, It's quite stylised and cartoony but they're great likenesses. The Harmonix chaps are properly getting into it.


18:33 By Robert Purchese

They're doing "Day Tripper". Notes scroll down the screen just like in Rock Band. Words like BASS GROOVE and UNISON BONUS flash up from time to time.


18:34 By Robert Purchese

The lip-synching isn't bad. It's not brilliant, obviously, but it's still only 2009 after all.


18:35 By Robert Purchese

The "infamous Giles Martin" is now on stage. "The game brings music history to life by featuring never heard before studio chat" from The Beatles.


18:36 By Robert Purchese

It's the first official trailer for the game. The Beatles are playing in the Cavern, "I Saw Her Standing There". Now they're on TV - "I Want to Hold Your Hand".


18:36 By Robert Purchese

"I Feel Fine" now. They're in the military jacket phase. "Day Tripper" again. "Taxman". All these are accompanied by in-game footage - more Rock Band-style stuff.


18:38 By Robert Purchese

"Octopus's Garden", complete with trippy graphics. "Here Comes the Sun" and "Get Back" - now they're in full long hair and beards mode.


18:41 By Robert Purchese

Full albums to download after launch starting with Abbey Road. "All You Need Is Love" available exclusively through Xbox Live, and all proceeds going to Doctors Without Borders.


18:39 By Robert Purchese

It's Yoko Ono and Olivia Harrison on stage.


18:41 By Robert Purchese

Paul and Ringo are on stage! The real ones! No sign of Heather.


18:42 By Robert Purchese

"The game is great, the graphics are great, we were great," says Ringo.


18:44 By Robert Purchese

Schappert's on stage. "You're not going to see charts and graphs," he says. Mark Rein does a big whoop and the whole audience laughs. Instead we're going to see 10 brand new games never seen before.


18:44 By Robert Purchese

It's Tony Hawk! He's holding a plastic skateboard! It's the final board design, unveiled for the first time. "As you can see it looks similar to a skateboard."


18:48 By Robert Purchese

This is no ordinary skateboard, though. It's got accelerometers! Tony Hawk is "really excited" and reckons "the design is really intuitive". [It's not that new, either: http://www.eurogamer.net/game/tony-hawk-ride-xbox360 - Ed]


18:47 By Robert Purchese

Now we're going to see some riders checking out Ride on the big screen, Lyn-Z Adams Hawkins, for example, and Paul Rodriguez. "It's great if you want to try out skating but don't want to put yourself in the position of being injured," says Paul.


18:48 By Robert Purchese

There's lots of game footage on the screen. Looks like trails of neon light follow you when you do jumps. Again, the visuals look quite cartoony.


18:48 By Robert Purchese

Tony's off, presumably to hang out backstage with Ringo and Paul as they glare meaningfully at Yoko.


18:50 By Robert Purchese

It's a trailer for Infinity Ward. Urban setting. A plane speeding down a runway. Helicopters zooming towards mountains. A man shoots soldiers with a gun. Operatives race across rooftops. Looks like there are urban, tropical and snow locations. [It's Modern Warfare 2 and the trailer we've already seen - Ed]


18:51 By Robert Purchese

Huge explosions over what looks like a military base, and it's over. Modern Warfare 2 - 10th November, remember.


18:52 By Robert Purchese

Now we're seeing the game in action. A man is crouched in a snowy mountain landscape. A plane flies overhead and he tells us to follow him as he edges round a perilous ledge. Now he's hacking into the ice and climbing up. There's an amazing level of detail to everything.


18:52 By Robert Purchese

Now we're following him up the mountain. We can see our character's arms hacking into the ice with picks and pulling up.


18:54 By Robert Purchese

We're skipping ahead now. Looks like a machine gun with a radar attached to the side. It's snowing again, but this time we're in a military base; jeeps and soldiers everywhere. Looks like a bit of stealth is required as our character hides behind crates, strangles enemies from behind and so on.


18:55 By Robert Purchese

More creeping across the snow landscape, this time towards a fuelling station. "Things do not go as planned," reads a caption on-screen.


18:55 By Robert Purchese

Looks like we're blasting our way out of the base, via the airfield. Our character blows up a plane and takes down several soldiers, then a truck.


18:57 By Robert Purchese

Now we're following the original guy down a snow hill and turning back to shoot at following soldiers on the ridge. They're zooming down on snowmobiles now instead - lots more shooting and now we're jumping on a snowmobile and zooming down the mountain, shooting enemies as we go. Wicked.


18:58 By Robert Purchese

And it's over. "Infinity Ward has once again outdone themselves," says John Schappert. "That was insanely good," says Mark Rein in my ear.


19:02 By Robert Purchese

It's the director of Final Fantasy XIII and the producer. They ain't afraid of no swine flu, then. There's a translator too, thankfully. [It's Yoshinori Kitase and Motomu Toriyama - Ed]


19:02 By Robert Purchese

It's the first footage of FFXIII on 360. A man with a big afro is jumping off a spaceship. A little yellow birdie pops up. A woman with spiky hair and a big sword says, "Heads up!" as a big arachnid-style spaceship lands on the platform they're on. It's the two heroes fighting a giant mechabot, apparently.


19:03 By Robert Purchese

"One major difference is we now have four active time gauges". That means more powerful spells. Looks like familiar old turn-based battling. "Let's end the battle with a special attack." They're fighting a character called Odin, a tall dude with a big helmet. "Normally you can't summon this early in the game."


19:03 By Robert Purchese

"We are targeting a spring 2010 release" for FFXIII on Xbox 360.


19:04 By Robert Purchese

Schappert's back. He says everything we're about to see will be available "only on Xbox 360." To kick off, he's welcoming Cliffy B and another chap from Epic.


19:04 By Robert Purchese

Mark Rein just told me the game is called Shadow Complex.


19:04 By Robert Purchese

It's an Xbox Live Arcade title. It's all about "exploration punctuated by moments of combat". You play as a man called Jason Fleming.


19:05 By Robert Purchese

There's footage on-screen now. Looks like a huge game map. The lighting and detail is surprisingly good for an XBLA game. Ooh, lovely waterfall.


19:06 By Robert Purchese

There's a woodland scene now with our hero firing big guns at mechanical enemies. Now he's dropped into a cavern and is blowing up a huge robot spider.


19:09 By Robert Purchese

Schappert's up and he's unveiling Joy Ride from Big Park Games. It's an Avatar racing game. It's out this winter. Free to download. You can share tracks with friends.


19:10 By Robert Purchese

Another trailer now - we've skipped to New Orleans, looks like. Jet planes zoom over the abandoned city. Zombies are scurrying about.


19:10 By Robert Purchese

Hordes of zombies now, and a group of normal people fending them off with axes and chainsaws anf frying pans. Yes, Left for Dead 2 - coming 17th November.


19:11 By Robert Purchese

We had a technical hiccup and missed Crackdown 2 in there. It's exclusive to Xbox 360. There's some sort of virus and we're the cure.


19:11 By Robert Purchese

Splinter Cell: Conviction now. Sam is up to his old tricks, slamming people into the piano, hiding behind pillars and attacking people from behind. Looks like he's in Washington.


19:13 By Robert Purchese

"Who said anything about hiding," says Sam. He's angry and unshaven. "What happens next is up to you." Mazime Beland and Alexandre Parizeau from Ubisoft take to the stage. "Spinter Cell: Conviction has changed quite a bit."


19:13 By Robert Purchese

Time for a demo of the game. Sam is strangling a chap in a men's urinal. "Sam has changed, and this time he's on a personal mission." Gosh.


19:14 By Robert Purchese

He's smashing the guy's head into sinks, mirrors, and holding him by the throat. "Driven by his emotions, Sam is now the ultimate predator." He has new Mark and Execute abilities.


19:16 By Robert Purchese

"The darkness is where Sam really shines." He's shooting people in the head and they have no idea where he is. He's sneaking around a large mansion in the dark. Objectives flash up as part of the background. "Get Sarah's Killer" looked like wallpaper along a corridor.


19:17 By Robert Purchese

Sam's giving up the whole stealth thing now to go charging through the front door. The perspective switches to first-person as he looks through the letterbox.


19:17 By Robert Purchese

Now he's kicking seven shades of business out of a bunch of men before leaping out the window and shimmying along the ledge. He jumps into another room.


19:18 By Robert Purchese

He's strangling someone. "Why did you have to kill Sarah?" But helicopters are surrounding the building. "Let's bring him home," says a woman's voice.


19:18 By Robert Purchese

Splinter Cell: Conviction is out this "fall", exclusively on Xbox 360.


19:18 By Robert Purchese

Forza Motorsport 3 is out this October.


19:19 By Robert Purchese

A very brief trailer of some cars zooming round a track. Now a screen on the stage rolls back to reveal a big shiny red sports car and Dan Greenwald.


19:20 By Robert Purchese

"Forza Motorsport is inspired by all things cars," says Dan. "It's this love of cars that drove my team to create the definitive racing game of this generation."


19:21 By Robert Purchese

It's gone away from the race track. Runs at 60 FPS and "is the best looking racing game on any console". It's got rewind like in GRID; player-created content.


19:22 By Robert Purchese

There's a short film about car customisation now, featuring real people who like colouring-in Forza cars. It's the future, you know.


19:23 By Robert Purchese

We'll be able to create and upload high-def video.


19:24 By Robert Purchese

There's a video on-screen now of what people can create in their own videos. Cars racing around a city, skidding, crashing, have a good old romp.


19:25 By Robert Purchese

Aha, "raising the bar" - 10 points in E3 conference bingo. "It's the definitive racing game and it ships this October."


19:27 By Robert Purchese

Halo 3: ODST now. Creative director Joe Staten is on the stage. In-game footage, looks like; our character seems to be piloting a craft as it heads down through clouds. Missiles are raining down around us. There's a huge electro explosion and a missile bursts into the craft.


19:27 By Robert Purchese

"Welcome to the city of New Mombasa, weeks before the start of Halo 3." It's dark, with lots of blinking lights hissing steam vents everywhere.


19:28 By Robert Purchese

[Valve just press-release Left 4 Dead 2 and said it's on PC too - also on 17th November - Ed]


19:29 By Robert Purchese

You get a low-light vision mode, which appears to be useful for targeting and blowing up enemies. "Any fans of the old Halo 1 pistol out there? You're going to love this one." Looks handy for headshots. Cut to our character picking up a bit of scrap metal off the floor and gazing at a huge burning object in the distance.


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Now we're going to the Oni Alpha site, two hours after the drop. "Come on tough guy, we've got to blow this bridge."


19:30 By Robert Purchese

Our hero races up a ladder to a higher platform, from which we can see enemies trying to cross the bridge. There's another big explosion and it's over.


19:31 By Robert Purchese

Brand new co-op online mode - Firefight. ODST is coming on 22nd September.


19:31 By Robert Purchese

But Bungie has been working on another top secret project, "And we're going to show you what they've been up to."


19:32 By Robert Purchese

A long shot of a planet spinning through space. "There's no mistake, it's them," says a voice over a radio. Explosions on the planet's surface and as the camera pans away we see the other side is a mess of burning land. "Hal Reach" appears on the screen. Fin.


19:33 By Robert Purchese

Halo Reach "falls 2010" - does that mean autumn? When you buy ODST you'll get an invite to the Reach multiplayer beta.


19:33 By Robert Purchese

Now we're saying hello to Sam Lake, who's here to introduce us to a best-selling writer. They've been working on a project for a long time. It's Alan Wake.


19:34 By Robert Purchese

In a voiceover, Alan explains his wife is missing. The camera pans over a sunrise over a forest, then sweeps round a mountain.


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Now we're in the game. "I'd come here to meet Rusty. He knew about the manuscript, but I was too late."


19:35 By Robert Purchese

Alan is creeping round an abandoned building in the woods. He's got a flashlight attached to his gun, which is handy as it's very dingy.


19:35 By Robert Purchese

Alan is wearing a hooded top under a suit jacket and jeans. Inspired by J Allard?


19:36 By Robert Purchese

Now Alan is racing through the forest. Trees are falling in the distance for no apparent reason.


19:36 By Robert Purchese

There's strange whispering as the sky darkens even further. A burst of strings and a strange humanoid shape bursts out of the darkness.


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There are more shapes now. They seem to come from nowhere and blur as they move. Alan shoots them all in the face.


19:37 By Robert Purchese

Now Alan's activating a generator to shed some light on the situation, before pulling a switch to make some kind of cable car work.


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He's cruising over the mountain now, but the car stops moving as strange black shapes zoom across the sky.


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Now Alan's holding a flare, lighting everything around him with a strange red light. The blurry enemies seem frightened of it and creep away.


19:39 By Robert Purchese

Alan takes cover in a building but a bulldozer appears from nowhere and starts racing towards him, headlines on. "TO BE CONTINUED." Spring 2010.


19:40 By Robert Purchese

Back to Schappert. He's going to talk about Xbox Live now. Is it time for the funny new camera?


19:41 By Robert Purchese

Exclusive partnership with Last.fm. "Instant access to millions of songs." Available around the world later this year for "no additional charge".


19:41 By Robert Purchese

Now we're onto Netflix. "Netflix has been a huge hit with our US members." Yes, John. What about us? You'll be able to watch stuff instantly. IF YOU'RE AMERICAN.


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Now he's talking about the Sky deal for the UK announced last week. "This is a watershed moment for our industry." We knew before, John.


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He's on about the video store now. We've heard you say "I can get a picture on my disc" and "it's not available in my country".


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They're relaunching the video service as Zune Video this fall. Full 1080p videos, first of all. Second: all movies and TV shows can be enjoyed instantly - no downloads, no delays. Third: They're more than doubling the number of countries the Store is in, from eight to 18.


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It will relaunch this fall.


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You'll be able to enjoy music, TV and movies with your friends via LIve Party. We've seen this already as part of the Sky deal - you'll be in a virtual sports stadium or cinema with your friends' Avatars.


19:45 By Robert Purchese

Oh! A partnership with Facebook! How contemporary. To show us how it works it's Felicia Day, creator of The Guild. I am bit gay for her.


19:46 By Robert Purchese

Felicia has been a gamer for years, she says, and social networking has taken over her life.


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Once again, it's familiar menu with options such as Home, Friends, Profile, Photos - just like on internet Facebook.


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She's showing off the Friend Licker. Sorry, Linker. You can see your friends from Facebook on the PC and Facebook on the 360 in one place.


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You can also view photos and see status updates via your Xbox 360. It's "really exciting and super convenient," says Felicia.


19:48 By Robert Purchese

There's something else called Facebook Connect coming - you can post screenshots and texts to your profile in real-time, starting with Tiger Woods PGA Tour [10, we guess - Ed].


19:49 By Robert Purchese

In addition to Facebook, Xbox Live is bringing you Twitter. Even more contemporary! Felicia's Avatar is shown on a lovely sky blue page next to a load of Twitter updates. "Tweeting on Xbox is really simple."


19:49 By Robert Purchese

Twitter and Facebook are coming to Xbox Live this fall. Bye bye Felicia, nice shoes.


19:50 By Robert Purchese

Hello, John Schappert. He's telling us about all the marvellous things we've seen - "But we're not done yet." Here comes Don Mattrick!


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"John, this morning's announcements were truly historic... But we're missing one crucial piece of the puzzle!" Hideo Kojima creeps up behind him and taps him on the shoulder.


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"It's my honour to introduce the creator of Metal Guild [sic] Solid." Oops!


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Hideo: "It is my pleasure to announce I'm bringing the Metal Gear Solid franchise to Xbox 360." What about Metal Guild?


19:52 By Robert Purchese

It will be called Metal Gear Solid Rising, says Kojima. Mattrick is "honoured" and "Can't wait" to see what the future holds for Solid Snake.


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"But Don, I didn't say anything about Solid Snake!" Footage now of clouds, a weird metal monster, a single amber eye gazing out from underneath white fringe... "Raiden is back." And so is Kojima: "It is a completely new Metal Gear experience, and you can look forward to many great things."


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"We can finally say our platform is complete," says Mattrick. From Paul McCartney to Hideo Kojima... Who would you rather have dinner with?


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Hideo's off and it's just Mattrick now. "People ask me, can you add a motion controller? I say, of course we can." But the controller is a barrier, says Mattrick. So they asked new questions - "Can we go beyond a controller? Can we make you the controller? We can." YES WE CAN, DON.


19:56 By Robert Purchese

On screen we see a big telly with a tiny camera underneath. A teenage boy walks into the room. An avatar challenges him to a fight. Now a family are driving a car just by leaning left and right on a sofa and holding invisible steering wheels.


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Now the Dad is shooting an invisible machine gun. Then the son starts punching a giant monster as it smashes up skyscrapers. Or is he being the monster.


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The Mum and daughter are kicking imaginary footballs. Now the teenage boy scans his real-life skateboard. It appears on screen and he starts doing jumps in his lounge, on his invisible skateboard. Or something. The teenage girl is talking to one of her friends.


19:58 By Robert Purchese

They are showing each other possible outfits for the party and trying them on virtually. Back to the whole family now, who are pressing imaginary buzzers during a quiz show. Voice recognition knows which person is answering.


19:59 By Robert Purchese

Looks like you can use voice control to pick and play movies, too. "Goodnight," says a lady, and the movie ends. Gosh.


19:59 By Robert Purchese

It's codenamed "project Natal", apparently. "The only experience you need is life experience," is the tagline. "This is controller-free games and entertainment."


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Natal will work with every Xbox 360 they've sold. "We can leap into a new era without having to launch a new console," says Mattrick.


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Steven bloody Spielberg is here! That beats Paul and Hideo put together!


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He's looking well. Perhaps he's going to apologise for The Crystal Skull at last?


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"The vast majority of people are too intimidated to pick up a controller," says Steve. "60 per cent of households do still not own a games console."


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So, says Steve, you have to make the technology invisible - and make it recognise not just your thumbs but your "entire being".


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When shown Natal, Steve felt he was in "a historic moment" - just like when the movie screen went from square to widescreen and then to Imax.


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"It's not about reinventing the wheel, it's about no wheel at all," says Steve, before congratulating Don. Perhaps later Don will go back to his house for a cocktail made of gold.


20:03 By Robert Purchese

Turns out Project Nadal is the work of Kudo Tsunodo, that bloke who always wears the big glasses and the big chains and the rap clothes even though he's white.


20:04 By Robert Purchese

Hello, Kudo! "You have control over your Avatar in the most natural way imaginable." First he's going to show us a demo of the Dashboard.


20:04 By Robert Purchese

The Xbox now instantly recognises your face and signs you in automatically. When you move in real-life your avatar instantly mimics you on-screen.


20:05 By Robert Purchese

You can choose between categories on the dash just by waving your hand, and wave left and right to scroll through.


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Time for a tech demo fo something called Ricochet. "This is in Unreal Engine 3," says Mark. "I'm so proud!"


20:06 By Robert Purchese

An Avatar is in a gym, kicking balls and whacking them against moving blocks with her hands. You will get "true physical play", says Kudo.


20:06 By Robert Purchese

"This isn't a game where you end up sitting on the sofa doing some pre-set waggle dance," says Kudo. Take THAT, Nintendo!


20:08 By Robert Purchese

The demo is over and Kudo is going to show us something called Paint Party. Also in Unreal Engine 3. An African elephant is on a big canvas.


20:08 By Robert Purchese

An Avatar is throwing white paint at a canvas to make clouds on a blue sky. Now he's throwing darker blue paint for mountains, and brown for earth. Doesn't really look like earth, to be honest, looks more like... Never mind.


20:10 By Robert Purchese

Now he's throwing on green paint for grass, and using brown to create a tree trunk in the foreground. He's like a next-gen Rolf Harris. He shows off the stencil feature, where you can use your body to make "any crazy pose you want".


20:12 By Robert Purchese

Demo over. Peter Molyneux's coming on stage to show us how it's really done.


20:13 By Robert Purchese

"That thing in our hands that has evolved and got more complex" has become "a barrier", he says. Natal will "change the landscape of the games we play". Lionhead has been playing around with it for a while.


20:14 By Robert Purchese

In a video, Molynoire introduces us to Milo, a boy who can recognise and interact with us. A virtual boy, obviously.


20:14 By Robert Purchese

A girl called Claire is chatting to him. She can tell he's worried about something, says Molynoire. "This is about you meeting a character, a person."


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Milo is wandering round a lake along a rocky path. He and Claire chat about going fishing. He throws her some goggles and she puts on some invisible ones.


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Milo invites Claire to peer over the edge and down in the water. Her real-life reflection appears in the water. Now that's cool.


20:16 By Robert Purchese

She can swish the water with her hand and touch fish, with her real-world movements recognised on-screen. Gosh.


20:17 By Robert Purchese

Claire draws a fish on a piece of paper and holds it up to Milo. Natal scans it in and Milo is able to see it. "This is true technology science fiction has not even written about, and this works, now, today," says Molynoire.


20:18 By Robert Purchese

The film ends, and real-life Molynoire is back. "We're showing this behind closed doors, at E3, to a selected audience, and they'll be able to meet Milo himself."


20:18 By Robert Purchese

Molynoire's off, Don's on. "Now, Xbox 360 is home to every hit franchise."


20:19 By Robert Purchese

"The best controller ever invented," says Mattrick, presumably referring to Natal and not the Wiimote.


20:20 By Robert Purchese

And it's over. What would you give that conference out of 10? Mark Rein says, "11; that was over the top."