Kojima's mad zombie game idea
Die and then pay to watch.
Hideo Kojima may be busy working on a new Metal Gear Solid title for PlayStation 3, but that hasn't prevented him from floating another of his peculiar ideas. This time it's a zombie game where you pay to not play it.
"The zombie idea I have is a bit different," he says in this month's Edge. "Imagine a large town where half the inhabitants are zombies. Users would subscribe, get inside the town and get bitten.
"At that stage they become undead and can't control their character - all they can do is modify the camera angles... They'd see their character attacking humans and have to pay just to watch!" he explained.
Apparently you would have to open another account and hunt your original character down to end his suffering. Providing you didn't get bitten trying to do that.
By the sound of it Kojima isn't just making things up, either, adding that while it might take a while to get it together, he was taking the idea "very seriously".
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How come there's an advert for a demo of GRAW 2 on the XBL marketplace?
I would have thought the very people who go on this site are likely to be "aware" the day the demo is available?
Or is my logic screwed....
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20cc of Cyclosporine! Stat!
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I agree, but it's probably because any prospective film publisher would have seen the poor quality of scripting & OTT directing in his games, and won't take the risk on him.
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Would probably give it a go if it ever got made, hell Dead Rising is awesome and that's single player!
Edit; Also see http://www.exanimusth egame.com/ for a Zombie MMO currently in pre-production
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I agree, but it's probably because any prospective film publisher would have seen the poor quality of scripting & OTT directing in his games, and won't take the risk on him.
Quite - yet the fact that he's hailed as some sort of visionary genius in the gaming world shows just how much growing up the industry has to do if it wants to be taken seriously.
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As long as you don't have to pay to make new characters.
It's basically MMO Dead Rising.
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Not that I mean to intrude on your little highbrow tete-a-tete, but Kojima isn't hailed as a visionary genius simply because his games are full of cutscenes.
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Or am I missing Kojima-san's point completely, what with me not being a game genius and all....
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He's hailed as a visionary genius because he has created inventive boss fights like no other.
<a href=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64225&g t;And yeah he IS "fucking off" making a film.
Infact it was recently announced that <a href=http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6165595.html?sid=616 5595&sid=6165595>Sony pictures is going to produce the MGS movie.</a>
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Ultimately there's an audience for Kojima's games, and I'm glad that despite these days of ultra-conservative game design Kojima can still do his crazy thing. Games are so faceless, bland and charmless these days, designed by comittees - there aren't many games out there that give you a sense of the people behind it. MGS should be celebrated by people who appreciate innovative and interesting videogames.
As for this particular news item, it was just a funny off-the-cuff comment in response to a direct Edge question - the sort of thing you often read in interviews with game designers. I'm not sure exactly why it deserves some of the vitriol in these comments (eg. "Why doesn't he fuck off and make films instead"
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To people who berate 'codex' and tell him to fuck off make films, how about not playing? Stop feeling threatened by something you don't have the patience/intelligence to follow
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To summarise, zombie MMO = good for fun, bad for humanity.
And that is why beardy bastard devs only release fucking wizards, elves and gobshites MMOs.
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Ouch.
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I had to double check to see if that was aimed at people criticising the MGS plotlines.
Being bored shitless by cheesy waffle has nothing to with intelligence. As for having the patience to sit through boring stuff, its hardly a competition.
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They're mostly the same people who slag off Kojima at every opportunity, yet pray that MGS4 will come to the 360. In other words, fanboys.
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Yes, but MGS =/= "Being bored shitless by cheesy waffle"
(...though there's definitely an element of this)
I quite enjoy MGS plotlines. They're so utterly preposterous you can't help loving them in the end. Better than bloody Tom Clancy any day of the week.
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yeah i don't know why we let any cint from braintree into our fair town either
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I quite agree (I bet TC was gutted when Georgia had a peaceful revolution).
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And to think I'd previously been trying to convince that playing games wasn't immature
Bust the cringeometer that one.
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http://www.l4d.com/
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Please, don't make such generalisations. You sound like one yourself with accusations like that.
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Please, don't make such generalisations. You sound like one yourself with accusations like that.
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No. They are the same supra-pessemistic posters who post in EVERY SINGLE BLOODY COMMENTS THREAD to slag ANY game/gamer/developer/website/someone
just to be EG "cool". Kojima just happened to walk into the firing line.
Didn't you know being a negative bastard is the cool thing to be here in EG?
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MGS 2 on the other hand.......
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Or maybe they've bought a game.. to erm.. play..
if they wanted to watch something (As opposed to interact with it), they'd watch tv, or a film or something.
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I'm sorry what?
That would be bottom of the list of things that needed improving, the Ai was practically perfect as it is, hell if the Ai was the exact same in MGS4 i wouldn't mind at all.
Animation could do with a little work though.
And MGS isn't about realism that's what Splinter Cell is for.
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Amen, brother.
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Also how about a RE4 shoulder cam? Seems to be a popular choice these days.
I'd love it if Snake could climb like that bloke from Assassin's Creed, too.
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Did he digress and suddenly start talking about MGS 5?
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+1 about the damn cutscenes.
If I pay £30 for a game (MGS2 in 2002), I don't expect an anime with some gameplay in between scenes.
That would be worth about £15 - £20 ie, a DVD movie with extra features.
Only issue is... No pause, no rewind, no fast-forward, no ability to watch previously viewed cutscenes over again. FOOLISH.
So, if I sit down to play the game, but only have 30 mins or so to spare - I have to sit through an entire cutscene and a load of text talk just to have an idea what I'm supposed to do next. FOOLISH.
Turn a game into a DVD movie, but without DVD controls. FOOLISH.
But the boss battles and style are nice, so the thing needs improvement.
I heard that 3 Subsistence is decent, and I'd like to like the game, but it's nowhere to be found! FOOLISH!
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About his Zombie idea... It makes sense from a design perspective actually. Kojima has always said he wanted to make a game where once you die you have to re-buy the game in order to play again. If it were not a subscription based MMO, but rather generated its revenue from 'micro-transactions' he could easily do this without seeming too ridiculous. i mean if you payed £15 - £20 for the game but had to pay an extra 50p each time your character died in order to create another, and the gameplay was structured so that it was your only ever really your own fault if you were killed, it could work quite well.
If players could control the zombies (of which there would always be more) then the balance of gameplay is shifted completely towards the undead, meaning that players in control of zombies can (even with a more limited list of resources/ moves etc) easily act in a way that means gameplay can't be structured as easily.
Obviously this is all hearsay and conjecture, since it was a bit of an idea rather some grand design of his but i think it's fair to say to those that don't don't like his games aren't forced to play them, and those that really find him talentless and think he should "go make movies" should try their hand at game design to see if they can come up with better!