I'll take on Sony any day, says MS man
With my tip top first-party videogames.
Microsoft Games Studios boss Phil Spencer has challenged Sony to a fight over whose first-party software is harder.
Speaking to the fact-munching news-spewers over at GamesIndustry.biz Spencer said, "Let's start from the beginning of both consoles - PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 - which first party has had more success on their own platform? We have Gears, Halo, Forza, we're continuing to push existing IP while bringing new IP to market.
"I'll line up against Sony's first-party any day," he added.
And what's more, Spencer said, anyone who says Microsoft's got bugger all to offer after Christmas can do one. "We're going to stand up at the next E3, or at the right time, and we'll show a line-up that will continue to win. We talk about our games when we understand what they are. I'm not going to put a billboard up on stage and say, 'Boy, I hope you buy this game when it comes out and when I know what it is...'
"We talk about games when we know what they are, when we can guarantee the quality to the customers, and we'll say when they're going to come out - I think the customers want that."
Concluding his comments, Spencer invited Sony to come and have a go if they think they're hard enough, stating, "Lining us up against Sony first-party - I love that comparison. Review score average, exclusive hits to-date, you pick the metric and we can talk about it." Outside. No blades.
To read the full interview, visit GamesIndustry.biz.
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I mean my life would not be the same if I only have one half and cannot do without the other! Dont force me the serious gamer to chooose!!!!
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Right you are. I'm in the same boat.
I must say that MS line-up does look like a lot of fun. especially Fable 2 and Banjo.
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And at the end of the day which 1st party titles are better is down to personal preference. He listed 3 games I couldn't give less of a shit about. I'm sure they are good for those who are interested in them, its just they don't interest me.
Who gives a toss who has the best 1st party titles anyway? I want the console that has more of the games (1st or 3rd party) that interests me (seeing as I can't afford both).
If you want a shit analogy to sum this up then gaming is a big party, all are welcome - bring beer.
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PR these days is like watching kids in a playground...
Over the last five years or so this trash talking between PR types has become pretty cringe worthy. Who are they trying to appeal to? Seems to me the industry get less mature as it gets older.
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I don't think that can ever be topped for putting me off a console.
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/shakes head from side to side really slowly
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that's American corporate strategy I'm afraid
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Looking forward to Sony's reply though
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Or Dyack
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It helps if that's your target audience in the US.
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"Who are they trying to appeal to?"
This comment thread will have well over 100 posts before the end of the day, far more than any worthwhile item of news will gather. I don't know when your choice of console became something half the internet needed to have a religious argument about every day, but sadly that's what seems to have happened.
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Other than Peter Moore, these PR bullshit guys all sound like a bunch o' cunts! Then again, that's their job.
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I don't care if it sells 10 billion units, crap software is crap software.
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90% of PR people should be put down.
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I agree. The sexual tension here is rife.
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ms own the ip.
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All talk, no trousers!
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I own neither a PS3 or 360. Or a Wii.
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Looks like both Sony and MS have Ninty on ignore though.
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*shoos kittens from office and goes for a cuppa*
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How about dusty black with the vents covered in crap and guitar hero dongles hanging off the front? Yummy.
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For me it is a normal reply from MS.
I'll read a lot of imbicile remarks from ...MS is stupid to let this guy talk ect..
By no means is this fanboy statement.
Fanboys are saying really stupid no sense crap. This is not.
I see it as marketing and a defensive toward offensive position toward Sony.
Sony and a lot of gamejournalists have been bragging the whole year about how strong there line up will be this year. This may be the case but for me "as using both platforms" i see a split 65%-35% 360-ps3 this year (appealing exclusives)
If you look close and compare the man is saying the truth.
yes it is badass but credits for saying what needed to be said.
no harm done
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Tonka
16-Sep-08 10:12:21
Has SOny even got a line up?
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Somebody still hasn't left school.
What I find interesting is that MS continue to bark the loudest, while the other two just get on with their business. It's why I find the american company so fractious.
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http://ww w.eurogamer.net/article.php?art...
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Now if both consoles where the same price then exclusives tip, but now most games people want to play are on both so the cheapest console (360) is the obvious choice.
Eitherway all Xbots and the SDF should be happy this generation, all the time Sonys monopoly (PS2) ment they didn't need to aggresively cut prices, this time with the 360 taking a huge market share both Sony and Microsoft are really pushing to get the best games and cut prices, cheap gaming for all!
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All I need to mention is Sony's arrogance shown towards both MS and Ninty at E3 a while back which was "we have more first party support than Nintendo and MS combined, stick with us fanboys and spread the good word".
Also why dont you actually think about this a second... this is exactly the type of competition we want, we dont want arguements over whos sold the most consoles or whos got the most features all the time do we? Let them have a good battle to make some steller AAA games that people want to play dont condemn this talk without thinking about it, its exactly where the battle should be and it would benifit owners of both consoles more likely than not(competition = good)... who knows some f***in awesome games might come of it if more attention is focussed here by these companies.
Confidence in their lineup in the near future and beyond isnt a bad thing, granted he does actually come accross as a bit of knob but maybe stirring things up on this topic is what this gen needs... too much attention has been focused elsewhere for too long.
MS have actually been pretty hush about things regarding first party and MGS in general what with developers slipping away and being closed down, he might have just filled us in on that(which it sounds like he's hinting at) rather than took a swipe at their nearest rivals first... but perhaps he's not allowed to yet(Im quite excited now about just how much they have to announce at the event they chose to release the information and line ups to the press... sounds like he has alot of faith in how things are going there).
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I hate corporate speak.
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MS will kick their ass.
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To be honest I do find MS consistantly offer the most interesting lineups for me and pretty much every Microsoft Game Studios published game in recent years has been good to great = cant go wrong provided you are interested in the genre of the games in question(at the rate MS are going some stubborn fanboys will have gone off every genre out of spite "oh just what we need stupid MS another RPG/JRPG/Platformer/Adventure game ect, it doesnt have game like game x for console Y" just make it up as they go along).
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M$ games are rubbish, boring and well.. unoriginal. Halo = Yawn, Gears = Yawn, Forza = LOLZ!
Come on LIPS! WTF IS THAT! Banjo.. It is'nt even a proper Banjo game. Banjo is a platformer, well.. was, untill M$ had it's way with it. Now you get to play toyshop! O how joyous fun!
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What's a 360 Bum fan?
Is it an add on that I haven't heard of?
@ every other whinging bugger on this thread: I keep on keeping on reminding people it's a plastic box with some electronics in it. If someone chooses it over PS3 then that is their choice. Don't make derogatory comments
Not like they said 'I bought a 360 and then I fucked yer mum'.
Please stop with the fanboy nonsense and grow up. All of you. Including you at the back. Yes. You.
/goes to kill colleague for playing Take That in office
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Yes, Gears is first party. It's a MS fully funded and published game. The development team is irrelevant. It's every bit as first party as the likes of Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, Lair and LittleBigPlanet on PS3 - none of those teams are actually owned by Sony, but the games are fully funded and published by them.
And MGS4 is published by Konami and Tekken 6 is published by Namco, and the latter is highly unlikely to be PS3 exclusive given the current climate.
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Gears2 could be the sign of things to come as far as names go thats the biggest one on the horizon for MS and its now a platform exclusive.
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Every time MS release a new GOW are we gonna have to hear this crap, which will probably be every christmas.
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Did you read the actual original interview? EuroGamer has yet again sensationalised his comments, adding a load of bullshit in between quotes to make it sound like he said stuff he didn't.
Also, worth considering that:
(Gears of War + Halo 3 Sales) > (Entire PS3 first party lineup sales)
So, he does have a point.
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comment on GT5
1/ Is there a better example of Sony promoting a game that we (f)actually never going to see?...beyond hype?
2/ Is GT5 a typical game that feeds fanboy conversations beyond any reason?
YES IT IS !
for me ...im still waiting ...waiting,waiting,waiting BUT meanwhile enjoyed forza series..
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Considering Sony's exclusives have been more interesting of late I can see why he is saying this.
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These website forums are amazing, anyone you don't agree with just call them a fanboy and be done with them! Screw this having an argument or debate, just brand someone as a fool and become automatically right and just.
No wonder the MS guy is so confident about his consoles exclusives when MS just hand out cheques for millions of dollars for exclusivity periods whenever someone thinks of developing a game for 360 and PS3.
In fact I think I will develop a game for both consoles with some DLC to come later.
(Awaits cheque in post.)
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What I find interesting is that MS continue to bark the loudest, while the other two just get on with their business. It's why I find the american company so fractious.
Don't talk such shite!!! Mr Sony fanboy throws stones from Sony's glass house.
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Which line up of games you look forward to is completely subjective what games you like/want.
Looking objectively I would say both lineups are looking good and I can see why people might choose one over the other, I am not going to state a preference here to keep this open.
The PC is a different breed altogether, there is some cross over in games and I will admit a decent games PC which kicks both consoels into touch can be built for not a lot more than a PS3 (I know because I built one)
As for the 'its not exclusive its on PC arguement, it partially goes back to my previous point, but did anyone read a while ago that GT5 may be going to PC? will be interest if it does.
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As an ex Xbox owner i can't believe you own a PS3 cus' its PSN this year has hit the ground running and it's potential alone dominates XBLA. You'll never have AAA titles like Wipeout, Ratchet and Clank whatever on XBLA because of the file size limit Microsoft implement and they would cost twice as much if they could. I now save £60 a year with a free PSN account and admit XBL is still probably a smoother experience, i.e online chat but Sony will get there this Autumn with the upcoming HD audio patch and who cannot welcome the recent statement about providing all their current and future social and online interactive services for free,
I seem to say this alot now cus people (idiots) seem to think i'm a sony fanboy.....I like the Xbox360, I owned one for 3 1/2 years, i just don't miss it is all.
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"I own 2 PS3s"
Sure you do
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the price drop will give the 360 a bit of a nitro boost but we all know that type of tactic is a short term fix and doesn't help much... people may even begin to wonder why it's so cheap.
to really win the race they need to keep shifting the demographic towards the casuals... Lips and @ the movies and stuff like that together with avatars etc. is evidence that this is happening but they really have to sort of the hardware issues... Every 360 owner I know (about 10 - 11) have all had either RRoD and drive issues and I find it hard to believe that the failure rate is 1 in 3 from my sample of fiends and work colleagues it's more like 100$ failure rate... they must sort this out.
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Saying you like the 360 over and over again doesn't stop you being a fanboy and it doesn’t stop the rest of your comments being stupid fanboy drivel!
There is nothing wrong with posting pro PS3 comments (I’ve owned one since its day of release and I think it’s a great machine) but for some reason you feel the need bash the 360 every time you post.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
You're a dick, a stupid fanboy dick!!
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During the Austin Game Developers Conference (via 1UP), id Software's lead designer Tim Willits admitted that the developer cut back on content it would have included in Rage, due to the Xbox 360's 6-8GB per disc limit. Willits explained that while the PC has "limitless" space and the PS3 has about 25GB, id is "hoping [it] can squeeze the game down to two discs for the 360 version."
He went on to note that the game was originally going to feature several wastelands, but the limitations of the Xbox 360 required the developer to cut them down to two. These changes were made for all versions of the game. id's John Carmack had previously stated that the game might be a "little blurry" in parts for the Xbox 360.
It's certainly interesting that the Xbox 360 determined the concessions other platforms would need to make in this circumstance.
PS. If PS3 has 25gb how did media molecule manage to fit 40gb of LBP onto blu-ray, i though blu-ray was 50gb anyway???
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Of course! Thanks for clearing that up, 25x2=50 a big doh! to me
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Re: Xbox360 not having the space, any developer with the balls to stand up to Microsoft should insist on making games that utilise the HDD - tough doo-doo to arcade owners imo.
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Sorry but I prefer a dood named Kratos with badass swords, cutting everything in his path rather than some commando shouting "Niiiiiiiiceeeeeeeee" while reloading.....and btw Gears 1 had the lamest story even for a shooter ;p
But I would like your 3rd PARTY Vesperia.... :/
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"um, yeah, I own 2 fucking PS3s and 2 xbox elites. "
Yes Yes, sure I believe you