I'll take on Sony any day, says MS man

By Ellie Gibson Published 16 September, 2008

With my tip top first-party videogames.

Microsoft Games Studios boss Phil Spencer has challenged Sony to a fight over whose first-party software is harder.

Speaking to the fact-munching news-spewers over at GamesIndustry.biz Spencer said, "Let's start from the beginning of both consoles - PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 - which first party has had more success on their own platform? We have Gears, Halo, Forza, we're continuing to push existing IP while bringing new IP to market.

"I'll line up against Sony's first-party any day," he added.

And what's more, Spencer said, anyone who says Microsoft's got bugger all to offer after Christmas can do one. "We're going to stand up at the next E3, or at the right time, and we'll show a line-up that will continue to win. We talk about our games when we understand what they are. I'm not going to put a billboard up on stage and say, 'Boy, I hope you buy this game when it comes out and when I know what it is...'

"We talk about games when we know what they are, when we can guarantee the quality to the customers, and we'll say when they're going to come out - I think the customers want that."

Concluding his comments, Spencer invited Sony to come and have a go if they think they're hard enough, stating, "Lining us up against Sony first-party - I love that comparison. Review score average, exclusive hits to-date, you pick the metric and we can talk about it." Outside. No blades.

To read the full interview, visit GamesIndustry.biz.

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About Ellie Gibson

Since joining Eurogamer in the mid 2000s, Ellie has written about subjects as diverse as the fall of Gizmondo, the rise of Hollyoaks actresses in Red Alert games and the noise a bear makes under NSFW circumstances.

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  • Widge #1 3 years ago

    now thats badass

  • JonFE #2 3 years ago

    Some people *really* need to keep their mouths shut...

  • carrotcake #3 3 years ago

    is Gears first party? if you want to include third party exclusives then PS3 has a lot of good ones too. couple of ratchet games, couple of resistance, uncharted, mgs4, tekken6, and stuff, in additon to wipeout, gran turismo, god of war, etc. killzone, little big planet
    Edited by 1 at 16/09/08 @ 10:10

  • jonsaan #4 3 years ago

    He sounds like a college jock.

  • GamesConnoisseur #5 3 years ago

    I ll simply just have both cakes and eat them!

    I mean my life would not be the same if I only have one half and cannot do without the other! Dont force me the serious gamer to chooose!!!!

  • Tonka #6 3 years ago

    Has SOny even got a line up?

  • menage #7 3 years ago

    @gc

    Right you are. I'm in the same boat.

    I must say that MS line-up does look like a lot of fun. especially Fable 2 and Banjo.

  • Aysir #8 3 years ago

    Gears was published by MS. But that still leaves a tall order of Sony titles to stand up against. I'm with JonFE on this, some people really do need to shut the hell up. If he wants to tell us about new game, by all means do, but these rather lame fighting words are pretty pointless.

  • Isere #9 3 years ago

    Console Wars, how very interesting.

  • Shrui #10 3 years ago

    Is it in the job description for these people to act like 13 year old school boys?

    And at the end of the day which 1st party titles are better is down to personal preference. He listed 3 games I couldn't give less of a shit about. I'm sure they are good for those who are interested in them, its just they don't interest me.

    Who gives a toss who has the best 1st party titles anyway? I want the console that has more of the games (1st or 3rd party) that interests me (seeing as I can't afford both).

    If you want a shit analogy to sum this up then gaming is a big party, all are welcome - bring beer. :)

  • FooAtari #11 3 years ago

    Yawn.

    PR these days is like watching kids in a playground...

    Over the last five years or so this trash talking between PR types has become pretty cringe worthy. Who are they trying to appeal to? Seems to me the industry get less mature as it gets older.

  • Vice.Destroyer #12 3 years ago

    I don't know about you, but this PR puff piece sounds a lot more palatable than "The next generation starts when we say so".

    I don't think that can ever be topped for putting me off a console.

  • KayJay #13 3 years ago

    Fucking hell.

    /shakes head from side to side really slowly

  • BartonFink #14 3 years ago

    C'mon on ave a go if ya think yer ard enough!!!

  • thesombrerokid #15 3 years ago

    @FooAtari
    that's American corporate strategy I'm afraid

  • BartonFink #16 3 years ago

    God these exec knobjockeys should really learn to STFU.

    Looking forward to Sony's reply though

  • Dizzy #17 3 years ago

    They should really have a real life boxing match every year (together with Uwe)

  • LunatikCajun #18 3 years ago

    It seems like he's trying to become a personality like Moore, or Molyneaux (Sp?), but unfortunatly he doesnt quite have the charm, and comes across, as jonsaan said, a colledge jock.

    Or Dyack

  • shinki #19 3 years ago

    I'll believe it when I see it Mr. Microsoft-man.

  • KayJay #20 3 years ago

    Shrui Wrote - "Is it in the job description for these people to act like 13 year old school boys?"

    It helps if that's your target audience in the US.

  • space_ace #21 3 years ago

    imagine nintendo's laughter

  • Gnort #22 3 years ago

    @FooAtari
    "Who are they trying to appeal to?"

    This comment thread will have well over 100 posts before the end of the day, far more than any worthwhile item of news will gather. I don't know when your choice of console became something half the internet needed to have a religious argument about every day, but sadly that's what seems to have happened.

  • Les #23 3 years ago

    lol

  • captainrentboy #24 3 years ago

    What about the Wii? Does he want to talk about that as well?... I doubt it :)
    Other than Peter Moore, these PR bullshit guys all sound like a bunch o' cunts! Then again, that's their job.

  • Les #25 3 years ago

    With silly shit like this, MS is entrenching themselves more and more into the fanboy userbase. What happened to reaching out to the masses? Just a price cut won't help.

  • drumbaby #26 3 years ago

    Protesting too much is pretty funny, but also pretty amateurish.

  • menage #27 3 years ago

    I sure as hell won't be playing any Wii games this winter, seeing as there are none.

    I don't care if it sells 10 billion units, crap software is crap software.

  • yupyup #28 3 years ago

    Embarrassing. This sort of drivel won't make anyone buy your console or stop them buying Sony's.

    90% of PR people should be put down.

  • Monkey_Puncher #29 3 years ago

    What an idiot...

  • jack_klugman #30 3 years ago

    Am I the only person who finds this kind of trash talk sexy?

  • YobRenoops #31 3 years ago

    Actually mate I disagree. And your a dick as well. Put him with Dude Huge and they can tell each other how ALPHA they are and inject bull-shark testosterone

  • Rirekon #32 3 years ago

    I think blades would be interesting...

  • Xerx3s #33 3 years ago

    It would be far better if they did a celebrity deathmatch thing between the two.

  • drunkymonkey #34 3 years ago

    @Jack:

    I agree. The sexual tension here is rife.

  • Xerx3s #35 3 years ago

    "is Gears first party?"

    ms own the ip.

  • Aphexman #36 3 years ago

    he should do his comparisons in next year stopping on what 360 got now and what ps3 will have till then

  • Bilbo_bobbins #37 3 years ago

    well didn't that make him sound like a complete d!ck !

    All talk, no trousers!

  • schnide #38 3 years ago

    I commend the majority of posters for seeing through the usual MS bullshit. I am SO sick of all the hyperbole and spin from this company.. nothing to do with publishers getting worried over the 360 in Europe, is it Microsoft?

    I own neither a PS3 or 360. Or a Wii.

  • Climhazzard #39 3 years ago

    sonys line up isnt even in the equation for me, pointless for two reasons, one being all the games dont interest me one bit and two being i dont have a ps3.

  • BartonFink #40 3 years ago

    @schnide - they are all as bad as each other.

  • BartonFink #41 3 years ago

    @squarejawhero - lol we wish!!

    Looks like both Sony and MS have Ninty on ignore though.

  • Widge #42 3 years ago

    Sad thing is, this will prompt a Sony PR response. The site had been relatively GUFF free for a bit too!

  • autogunner #43 3 years ago

    anyone with any money buys a PS3 now becuase we all know glossy black looks better on the TV stand than taky white. that single fact sells consoles now, because most people dont have a fucking clue what games there are out for the either console and dont care.

  • Redeye #44 3 years ago

    I'd reiterate my tired old 'locked room with chainsaws' schtick, but I can't be arsed.

    *shoos kittens from office and goes for a cuppa*

  • Garulon #45 3 years ago

    "anyone with any money buys a PS3 now becuase we all know glossy black looks better on the TV stand than taky white. "

    How about dusty black with the vents covered in crap and guitar hero dongles hanging off the front? Yummy.

  • HardCoreGamer999 #46 3 years ago

    Is this interview taken after "MS" was demolished by Sony for terminating Ensemble Studios and others?
    For me it is a normal reply from MS.
    I'll read a lot of imbicile remarks from ...MS is stupid to let this guy talk ect..
    By no means is this fanboy statement.
    Fanboys are saying really stupid no sense crap. This is not.
    I see it as marketing and a defensive toward offensive position toward Sony.
    Sony and a lot of gamejournalists have been bragging the whole year about how strong there line up will be this year. This may be the case but for me "as using both platforms" i see a split 65%-35% 360-ps3 this year (appealing exclusives)
    If you look close and compare the man is saying the truth.
    yes it is badass but credits for saying what needed to be said.
    no harm done

  • Dark_Era #47 3 years ago

    i ain't no fanboy cos i got both consoles but what a dumb question to ask, sure does show a lot of ignorance.
    ============================================================ ====
    Tonka
    16-Sep-08 10:12:21

    Has SOny even got a line up?

  • Rash' #48 3 years ago

    "We're going to stand up at the next E3, or at the right time, and we'll show a line-up that will continue to win."

    Somebody still hasn't left school.

    What I find interesting is that MS continue to bark the loudest, while the other two just get on with their business. It's why I find the american company so fractious.

  • Rash' #49 3 years ago

    HardCoreGamer999, I would reverse that percentage in PS3's favour, but that just me. :o)

  • Darren #50 3 years ago

    I really couldn't care less who has the better first party software because I can't play LittleBigPlanet on the Xbox 360 nor can I play Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts on the PS3. I'm just thankful I own both the 360 and PS3... neither are perfect IMHO but between them they offer me pretty much everything I want from videogames. And that is surely the real point here.

  • Bleh #51 3 years ago

    So in other words he wants to know who has the better console,

    http://ww w.eurogamer.net/article.php?art...

  • IneptPercy #52 3 years ago

    I do think exclusives do make a difference but not as much as it use to, previously the PS2 had loads of exclusives, this time around alot of the big games are multi platform leaving a small number of exclusives on each side.

    Now if both consoles where the same price then exclusives tip, but now most games people want to play are on both so the cheapest console (360) is the obvious choice.

    Eitherway all Xbots and the SDF should be happy this generation, all the time Sonys monopoly (PS2) ment they didn't need to aggresively cut prices, this time with the 360 taking a huge market share both Sony and Microsoft are really pushing to get the best games and cut prices, cheap gaming for all!

  • Calgon #53 3 years ago

    Rash' bollocks they just get on with their business Sony are the worst for it(thats settled it for me you arent objective, simple Sony Fanboy)... they are the most agressive in their PR and Spin, MS are just rising to it.

    All I need to mention is Sony's arrogance shown towards both MS and Ninty at E3 a while back which was "we have more first party support than Nintendo and MS combined, stick with us fanboys and spread the good word".

    Also why dont you actually think about this a second... this is exactly the type of competition we want, we dont want arguements over whos sold the most consoles or whos got the most features all the time do we? Let them have a good battle to make some steller AAA games that people want to play dont condemn this talk without thinking about it, its exactly where the battle should be and it would benifit owners of both consoles more likely than not(competition = good)... who knows some f***in awesome games might come of it if more attention is focussed here by these companies.

    Confidence in their lineup in the near future and beyond isnt a bad thing, granted he does actually come accross as a bit of knob but maybe stirring things up on this topic is what this gen needs... too much attention has been focused elsewhere for too long.

    MS have actually been pretty hush about things regarding first party and MGS in general what with developers slipping away and being closed down, he might have just filled us in on that(which it sounds like he's hinting at) rather than took a swipe at their nearest rivals first... but perhaps he's not allowed to yet(Im quite excited now about just how much they have to announce at the event they chose to release the information and line ups to the press... sounds like he has alot of faith in how things are going there).

  • Ranger101 #54 3 years ago

    Unfortunately this kind of talk isn't exclusive to the Games industry - it's ploriferated the software industry as a whole. Listening to my mangers and Product Managers talk about our software is like listening to soft-core porn. "This is sexy","That is sexy and tasty", "That's hot!". And we're talking about the most dire, drab software around.

    I hate corporate speak.

  • wiggy1 #55 3 years ago

    gears wasn't really exclusive since it was on the pc

  • The_Inquisitor #56 3 years ago

    SAD

  • zoch #57 3 years ago

    really SAD!
    Edited by 1 at 16/09/08 @ 13:03

  • Tonka #58 3 years ago

    Sony has a puppet theatre and a shoddy FPS.
    MS will kick their ass.

  • wewillselfdestruct #59 3 years ago

    After which his mummy told him to play nicely with the other children or he'll be going to bed without a story tonight.

  • Calgon #60 3 years ago

    Ranger we'll see soon enough whether it was hot air or not... each time Sony has tried it so far its turned out to be hot air up to now(1st party support claims... a few years on and you wouldnt be blamed for thinking it was the opposite of what they said --the least 1st party devs-- and the claims of having "the best lineup for this holiday season" so far have been hot air too... thats gone to MS with Nintendo in second so far).

    To be honest I do find MS consistantly offer the most interesting lineups for me and pretty much every Microsoft Game Studios published game in recent years has been good to great = cant go wrong provided you are interested in the genre of the games in question(at the rate MS are going some stubborn fanboys will have gone off every genre out of spite "oh just what we need stupid MS another RPG/JRPG/Platformer/Adventure game ect, it doesnt have game like game x for console Y" just make it up as they go along).

    Edited by 2 at 16/09/08 @ 13:16

  • Sylpharion #61 3 years ago

    I've got both a 360 and a PS3 and in my opinion, Microsoft's first-party line-up is not a patch on Sony's. I can only think of one game coming out this year that's 360-exclusive that I'm interested in and thats Gears 2. On PS3 I'm looking forward to LBP, Wipeout HD, Motorstorm 2, Resistance 2 and probably SOCOM if Slant Six get all the bugs fixed by the time the game launches.

  • Calgon #62 3 years ago

    *Yawn* Cant say I agree with you there Sylpharion(Id pick two tops from that list and they wouldnt be high priority games or definate buys untill I read the reviews), theres far more than just Gears2 on the way for 360 but I guess its still very objective... even when they are released, let alone still in development.
    Edited by 1 at 16/09/08 @ 13:25

  • Moonprince #63 3 years ago

    Calgon - SAD!

  • SpyroViper #64 3 years ago

    Yawn. Calgon = biggest 360 Bum fan ever.

    M$ games are rubbish, boring and well.. unoriginal. Halo = Yawn, Gears = Yawn, Forza = LOLZ!

    Come on LIPS! WTF IS THAT! Banjo.. It is'nt even a proper Banjo game. Banjo is a platformer, well.. was, untill M$ had it's way with it. Now you get to play toyshop! O how joyous fun!

  • Sylpharion #65 3 years ago

    @ Calgon: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there are no other good games coming for the 360 this year, in fact I'm sure there is, just saying that there are no other games coming this year that appeal to me, which is why the PS3 has a stronger line-up in my eyes. In the case of Motorstorm, Resistance and Wipeout, I'm looking forward to them because I enjoyed the previous games in the series (the only Wipeout I haven't played is Pulse, IIRC).

  • amcd28 #66 3 years ago

    @ SpyroViper

    What's a 360 Bum fan?

    Is it an add on that I haven't heard of?

    @ every other whinging bugger on this thread: I keep on keeping on reminding people it's a plastic box with some electronics in it. If someone chooses it over PS3 then that is their choice. Don't make derogatory comments

    Not like they said 'I bought a 360 and then I fucked yer mum'.

    Please stop with the fanboy nonsense and grow up. All of you. Including you at the back. Yes. You.

    /goes to kill colleague for playing Take That in office

  • woodnotes #67 3 years ago

    "is Gears first party? if you want to include third party exclusives then PS3 has a lot of good ones too. couple of ratchet games, couple of resistance, uncharted, mgs4, tekken6, and stuff, in additon to wipeout, gran turismo, god of war, etc. killzone, little big planet "

    Yes, Gears is first party. It's a MS fully funded and published game. The development team is irrelevant. It's every bit as first party as the likes of Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, Lair and LittleBigPlanet on PS3 - none of those teams are actually owned by Sony, but the games are fully funded and published by them.

    And MGS4 is published by Konami and Tekken 6 is published by Namco, and the latter is highly unlikely to be PS3 exclusive given the current climate.
    Edited by 3 at 16/09/08 @ 14:13

  • Calgon #68 3 years ago

    Sylpharion I understood that much I just said Im pretty much the exact opposite and then remembered how objective it all is in the end. Atleast you've shown more intellegence and maturity than the average PS3 fan in this thread...

  • Calgon #69 3 years ago

    Not all of them evilfoxhound and perhaps MS have noticed that trend, if people are sticking with their PC to pirate the games they publish whilest smugly commenting about "All I need is a PS3 and PC"(even though to many theres reason to own a 360 and a PC too) perhaps they have already done the maths... "would we be better off not porting to PC keeping them exclusives therefore making our console more of an essential purchase to even more gamers? This may increase our 360 user base and full priced software sales which means a better return on dev costs"

    Gears2 could be the sign of things to come as far as names go thats the biggest one on the horizon for MS and its now a platform exclusive.
    Edited by 2 at 16/09/08 @ 14:34

  • PrivateJoker #70 3 years ago

    What an arrogant cock and desperate to boot. Sony can just laugh in his face but won't reduce theirselves to his playground level.

  • JoeNut #71 3 years ago

    is he 7 years old?

  • JamieR #72 3 years ago

    I wish they was just one machine that played everything... is that too much to ask? seems so as its always been this way i hate it. if i had to own 3 dvd players and old VHS players and stuff that would be a nightmare.

  • El-Dev #73 3 years ago

    Forza and PGR as AAA games? Well really they should only count as one game, one game which isn't as good as Gran Turismo.

    Every time MS release a new GOW are we gonna have to hear this crap, which will probably be every christmas.

  • woodnotes #74 3 years ago

    "is he 7 years old?"

    Did you read the actual original interview? EuroGamer has yet again sensationalised his comments, adding a load of bullshit in between quotes to make it sound like he said stuff he didn't.

    Also, worth considering that:

    (Gears of War + Halo 3 Sales) > (Entire PS3 first party lineup sales)

    So, he does have a point.
    Edited by 1 at 16/09/08 @ 16:07

  • HardCoreGamer999 #75 3 years ago

    El-Dev = nasty sony fanboy

    comment on GT5
    1/ Is there a better example of Sony promoting a game that we (f)actually never going to see?...beyond hype?
    2/ Is GT5 a typical game that feeds fanboy conversations beyond any reason?

    YES IT IS !

    for me ...im still waiting ...waiting,waiting,waiting BUT meanwhile enjoyed forza series..

  • peterfll #76 3 years ago

    I want naked pictures of both execs before I'll make the call about who's got the biggest, er-erhm, "line up".

  • bad09 #77 3 years ago

    Funny article!

    Considering Sony's exclusives have been more interesting of late I can see why he is saying this. ;)

  • El-Dev #78 3 years ago

    HardCoreGamer999, so you think that the Forzas and PGRs so far have been better than the GTs so far or even GT5 prologue?

    These website forums are amazing, anyone you don't agree with just call them a fanboy and be done with them! Screw this having an argument or debate, just brand someone as a fool and become automatically right and just.

    No wonder the MS guy is so confident about his consoles exclusives when MS just hand out cheques for millions of dollars for exclusivity periods whenever someone thinks of developing a game for 360 and PS3.

    In fact I think I will develop a game for both consoles with some DLC to come later.

    (Awaits cheque in post.)

  • Psychopompus #79 3 years ago

    These kind of comments really make you choose sides with Sony, though it will probably check all the boxes of the 360-demographic.

  • Ryze #80 3 years ago

    [ 'Landan' Ghetto Chav ] Brrrrrrapppp!!!! You get me blad!!! [ / 'Landan' Ghetto Chav ]

  • Ryze #81 3 years ago

    @Rash'

    What I find interesting is that MS continue to bark the loudest, while the other two just get on with their business. It's why I find the american company so fractious.

    Don't talk such shite!!! Mr Sony fanboy throws stones from Sony's glass house.

  • IneptPercy #82 3 years ago

    To sum it up:

    Which line up of games you look forward to is completely subjective what games you like/want.

    Looking objectively I would say both lineups are looking good and I can see why people might choose one over the other, I am not going to state a preference here to keep this open.

    The PC is a different breed altogether, there is some cross over in games and I will admit a decent games PC which kicks both consoels into touch can be built for not a lot more than a PS3 (I know because I built one)

    As for the 'its not exclusive its on PC arguement, it partially goes back to my previous point, but did anyone read a while ago that GT5 may be going to PC? will be interest if it does.

  • PrivateJoker #83 3 years ago

    @HairyCrack

    As an ex Xbox owner i can't believe you own a PS3 cus' its PSN this year has hit the ground running and it's potential alone dominates XBLA. You'll never have AAA titles like Wipeout, Ratchet and Clank whatever on XBLA because of the file size limit Microsoft implement and they would cost twice as much if they could. I now save £60 a year with a free PSN account and admit XBL is still probably a smoother experience, i.e online chat but Sony will get there this Autumn with the upcoming HD audio patch and who cannot welcome the recent statement about providing all their current and future social and online interactive services for free,
    I seem to say this alot now cus people (idiots) seem to think i'm a sony fanboy.....I like the Xbox360, I owned one for 3 1/2 years, i just don't miss it is all.

  • man.the.king #84 3 years ago

    @HairyCrack
    "I own 2 PS3s"

    Sure you do ;)

  • onyxbox #85 3 years ago

    sony have talked some shit but fair play to MS they're really sounding scared and threatend these days... shame really because if it wasn't for the whole RRoD issue I really think they would have cleaned up by now but as it stands the race is far from over and although they started the race early (perhaps prematurely) they've now got sony in their rear view mirror gaining ground.

    the price drop will give the 360 a bit of a nitro boost but we all know that type of tactic is a short term fix and doesn't help much... people may even begin to wonder why it's so cheap.

    to really win the race they need to keep shifting the demographic towards the casuals... Lips and @ the movies and stuff like that together with avatars etc. is evidence that this is happening but they really have to sort of the hardware issues... Every 360 owner I know (about 10 - 11) have all had either RRoD and drive issues and I find it hard to believe that the failure rate is 1 in 3 from my sample of fiends and work colleagues it's more like 100$ failure rate... they must sort this out.

  • OfficialBlue #86 3 years ago

    Wow just wow... Now you sure cause I swear like everyone leaving you M$... Bioware, fasa, Bungie do I need to go on... Name one developer that has left SONY?

  • FrankCannon #87 3 years ago

    Jings you kids sure can't spell for shit.

  • tnt_2008smum #88 3 years ago

    @PrivateJoker

    Saying you like the 360 over and over again doesn't stop you being a fanboy and it doesn’t stop the rest of your comments being stupid fanboy drivel!

    There is nothing wrong with posting pro PS3 comments (I’ve owned one since its day of release and I think it’s a great machine) but for some reason you feel the need bash the 360 every time you post.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

    You're a dick, a stupid fanboy dick!!
    Edited by 1 at 17/09/08 @ 07:18

  • PrivateJoker #89 3 years ago

    Now i'm starting to hate the xbox, this is off joystiq.com and ive seen it on other sites too:

    During the Austin Game Developers Conference (via 1UP), id Software's lead designer Tim Willits admitted that the developer cut back on content it would have included in Rage, due to the Xbox 360's 6-8GB per disc limit. Willits explained that while the PC has "limitless" space and the PS3 has about 25GB, id is "hoping [it] can squeeze the game down to two discs for the 360 version."

    He went on to note that the game was originally going to feature several wastelands, but the limitations of the Xbox 360 required the developer to cut them down to two. These changes were made for all versions of the game. id's John Carmack had previously stated that the game might be a "little blurry" in parts for the Xbox 360.

    It's certainly interesting that the Xbox 360 determined the concessions other platforms would need to make in this circumstance.

    PS. If PS3 has 25gb how did media molecule manage to fit 40gb of LBP onto blu-ray, i though blu-ray was 50gb anyway???

  • PrivateJoker #90 3 years ago

    @British Blue

    Of course! Thanks for clearing that up, 25x2=50 a big doh! to me

  • FrankCannon #91 3 years ago

    All the extra space on blue ray may well be taken up by having to duplicate data around the disc to help speed up the data retrieval and avoid HDD installs. Hopefully that will just be a temporary workaround until the programmers get their heads round the system more.

    Re: Xbox360 not having the space, any developer with the balls to stand up to Microsoft should insist on making games that utilise the HDD - tough doo-doo to arcade owners imo.

  • saku_luk #92 3 years ago

    We have gears, halo and forza lulz!

    Sorry but I prefer a dood named Kratos with badass swords, cutting everything in his path rather than some commando shouting "Niiiiiiiiceeeeeeeee" while reloading.....and btw Gears 1 had the lamest story even for a shooter ;p

    But I would like your 3rd PARTY Vesperia.... :/

  • man.the.king #93 3 years ago

    @HairyCrack

    "um, yeah, I own 2 fucking PS3s and 2 xbox elites. "

    Yes Yes, sure I believe you :)). Now run along.
    Edited by 1 at 17/09/08 @ 21:18