Halo 3 Review

By Rob Fahey Published 23 September, 2007

The fight, finished.

Version tested: Xbox 360

Let's cut the crap. Cut the platform advocacy, cut the ranting of Internet storm-troopers on behalf of multinational corporations who don't care if they live or die. Cut the agonised wailing and gnashing of teeth over whether something is "game of the year" or just "really good".

Let's cut the crap, and talk about Halo 3, the videogame - not Halo 3, the monumental "event". Let's talk about the next instalment in one of the most likeable and well-crafted science fiction shooter series ever created - the third part of a trilogy which, despite its occasional wrong steps, has held our attention for six years. Let's talk about that.

Evolved Again

Halo 3 picks up exactly where we left off at the end of Halo 2's abruptly terminated narrative. Returning to Earth to "finish the fight", the Master Chief dives through the atmosphere and makes a right mess of a nice stretch of jungle - and it's there that we pick up the controls, only minutes after the end of the previous game.

It's not just the story which continues directly from Halo 2, either. Pretty much the entire single-player game is a direct continuation of the winning formula we saw in the Master Chief's second outing. Bungie clearly thinks it perfected the much-vaunted "thirty seconds of fun" in the previous game - so why change the formula radically now?

We'd struggle to come up with any grounds for disagreement. If Halo 2 had flaws - which it certainly did - then they weren't with the basic heart of the game. The fundamentals of run-and-gun gameplay, pure and unadulterated, were close to perfect in Halo 2. The problems came instead from the context in which those gaming moments sat; the truncated storyline, the unsteady pacing, the graphics engine that pushed a little too hard at the Xbox hardware.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 1

Back on Earth, hard as nails and ready to finish the fight - the Master Chief is basically an interstellar Begbie in green fibreglass pants.

Halo 3, then, will be an instantly recognisable experience to any veteran of the previous Halo campaigns. From the lovely piece of design at the outset where the game determines your look-inversion preference in-game (a staple since the original Halo, and still no less wonderful for it) through to the physics of the world and the majority of the weapon arsenal, almost everything is familiar.

Even the biggest set-pieces have a homely feel to them. The highlights of the game's encounters include taking down the massive, four-legged Scarab tanks by boarding them and wiping out their crew, and frantic battles against Gravity Hammer wielding Brute leaders, both of which are lifted directly from Halo 2 - but are no less dramatic and enjoyable for it.

None of which is to suggest that Halo has stagnated, by any means. In spite of the overall familiarity, there are new touches and tweaks in evidence at every turn. Minute alterations to the weapons balance are obvious from early in the game, including the reintroduction of the first game's assault rifle - and a vital rebalancing to ensure that dual-wielding isn't the ultimate solution to any combat situation any more.

The most obvious change is the addition of Equipment - a class of item which is held independently of other gear (you can only hold one piece of equipment at a time). Equipment can be dropped at any point to create an area effect, and essentially creates new options for you in any given encounter. With a portable Gravity Lift, for example, you could create a bounce pad to hop onto a higher area; or you could erect a Bubble Shield and pop out from it to snipe at foes, sitting inside to regenerate your own armour.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 2

Dual-wielding is still handy, but some carefully considered weapons balancing means that it's no longer necessarily the tactic of choice.

These new items spice things up in the campaign, certainly, but it's a fairly modest change to the single-player gameplay. Their true role in the campaign is simply to introduce you to the various equipment items, which go on to serve a vastly more important role in multiplayer matches.

More important for the single-player game, arguably, is the ability to rip rocket launchers and chainguns off gun emplacements and carry them around with you. This pops the camera back into a third person view and slows down your movement speed, but turns you into a devastating walking death-machine - one of our favourite types of machine, we might add. Superb for clearing areas fast or taking down vehicles, it's an option which adds to the slightly more tactical, considered approach that Halo 3 quietly encourages.

Destination Earth

So far, so good; you could, if you were trying to review this game in a 200 word box in a newspaper, probably reduce the last section to "more of the same, but with some well considered tweaks which we like a lot". On the strength of Halo 2, that alone should guarantee a copy in the hands of every first-person shooter fan on the planet.

However, that doesn't really touch on the real meat of why Halo 3 is a better game than its predecessor. Like we said earlier, Halo 2's failings weren't in its fundamentals - they lay, rather, in the context. So while Halo 3 certainly tweaks, polishes and buffs up the fundamentals, where it really sets itself apart is in that all-important context.

The narrative, for example, flows through the game smoothly and efficiently, delivering revelations with practised grace. The player is pushed from encounter to encounter with a clear view of what you're doing, why you're doing it and how you should go about it. At its best, the game's superb use of marine chatter, radio communications and scripted events give you the genuine sense of being a key player in a much wider war effort. Even at its weakest, when it falls back on traditional cutscenes, Halo 3 is rarely short of dramatic.

In the interests of a spoilter-free review, we're not going to discuss the plot - but it's worth mentioning that one story aspect doesn't survive the gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3. The Arbiter, the second playable character in Halo 2, sees his storyline all but eliminated from the final game in the trilogy. He is reduced to the role of an AI-controlled NPC, fighting alongside you on several missions - while the personality clash between the Arbiter and the Master Chief, built up so well in Halo 2, is reduced to one pointlessly brief scene. Playing as the Arbiter was an unpopular decision in Halo 2, perhaps because the "noble enemy" role sullied the straightforward, gung-ho nature of the rest of the narrative; but it still jars a little to see an interesting storyline fizzle out like this. Only a little, though.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 3

Ripping gun emplacements off and wandering around firing them from the hip is one of the most satisfying things we've ever done in a videogame.

Voiceovers, a key part of delivering the narrative experience, are universally superb - and occasionally laugh out loud funny, with your fellow marines delivering plenty of lines that are heavily influenced by online gaming culture. The music, too, is downright excellent, and perhaps even more bombastic and energetic than the game's previous symphonic scores. The distinctive Halo themes are woven throughout the most epic combat sequences, setting our spines - and subwoofers - tingling with anticipation throughout.

Graphically, however, the game is impressive only in a muted sense. Here, too, comparisons with Halo 2 will be made, and justifiably so - Halo 3 feels very much like an improved version of the Halo 2 engine, not a cutting edge next-generation visual feast. The primary technical improvements are not graphical enhancements - although higher definition textures, lovely sky animations and lengthy vistas can combine to form impressive scenes in places.

Instead, the focus appears to have been on making sure everything runs smoothly throughout - taking the Halo 2 engine, which regularly pushed against the constraints of the Xbox hardware, and giving it room to breathe on the vastly superior Xbox 360 platform. Texture pop-in is a thing of the past, spotted only a handful of times in our play through the campaign. The framerate, both online and offline, is so smooth and steady you could rest your pint on it.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 4

Improvements to enemy AI aren't as notable as improvements to your squadmates' intelligence - they're now much more fun to fight alongside.

We sense the influence of multiplayer - with its requirement for consistent framerate and a level playing field - in many of the graphical decisions Bungie has made. It's not that the game is ugly - well, aside from the human faces perhaps, which look flat and unnatural and are the most obvious relics of the last generation here. For the most part, though, the art direction is superb, with a huge range of different visually unique levels and environments to fight through.

It's just that, compared to games like last year's Gears of War, Halo 3 is an underachiever in graphical terms - but to our minds, any negative here is easily cancelled out by the joy of high framerates, no loading delays and an almost complete lack of any graphical glitches. It may not be gold, but it's the most perfectly polished silver we've seen.

Third Rock

Speaking of polish, much has been made of Halo 3's testing process - a hugely advanced foray into the science of entertainment, which analysed mountains of data on player behaviour and allowed the developers to tweak and streamline their levels on that basis. Okay, so the idea of a giant focus-testing lab is about as far from the romantic ideal of the visionary genius as you can get - but there's no denying that it works, and it works damned well.

Early levels in Halo 3 - right through the first two thirds of the game, in fact - are among the most perfectly designed, streamlined and considered first person shooter levels you will ever play. Each level provides the illusion of choice and of a vast, navigable play-area, while carefully funnelling you through set-piece after set-piece using subtle cues and clever design tricks.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 5

New additions to the vehicle line-up do not, sadly, include m0t0rb1k3s - will a slightly mental two-man dune buggy do instead?

Each encounter is balanced to provide a challenge without becoming frustrating, and we never managed to get lost or stuck - a sentiment mostly echoed by everyone else we know who's had their hands on the game. It manages to straddle the tricky middle ground between being too easy and being frustrating, providing a challenge without inducing controller-hurling rage. The Heroic and Legendary difficulty modes remain nicely balanced for players at higher skill levels, with arguably the best experience to be found on Heroic, thanks to somewhat more intelligent enemy AI.

There is a caveat to all of this praise, however. Simply, the game falls into the same trap that both of its predecessors have done - it doesn't feel entirely finished, with the incredible polish of the early levels fading to a more lacklustre shine as you approach the end of the game.

This was something of a showstopper before - literally, in the case of Halo 2, which simply felt like later levels had been chopped out entirely, and more figuratively in Halo 1's case, with the team opting for the much-derided backtracking levels to pad out the game. Thankfully, it's by no means as bad this time around. Bungie is now certainly better at finishing games, but it is also better at not finishing them.

True, Halo 3's later levels aren't up to the standard of early levels, with frustrating map design and unfair checkpointing becoming more common as you get past five or six hours of play (the full game clocks in at around eight hours on Normal difficulty). Never once, though, does it ask you to backtrack significantly, and the whole thing comes to an ultimately satisfying and enjoyable conclusion.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 6

The Spartan Laser is huge, clumsy, takes ages to fire - and is bloody brilliant for one-shot kills, if you've got the requisite skillz (or luck).

The incredible attention to detail and response to player feedback also carries over into the game's multiplayer aspect. Whereas Halo 2 was accused of focusing on multiplayer to the detriment of the single-player experience (let's not forget that a huge number of Halo 2 players never took the game online, and the same may well hold true for Halo 3), this third instalment finds a perfect balance. The singleplayer campaign is full and satisfying; and nobody who plays online is likely to come away feeling short-changed.

Whereas some publishers use beta tests as promotional tools, our gut feeling is that Halo 3's multiplayer beta earlier this year was an exercise in large-scale data gathering - and that data has been put to good use. Each multiplayer map in Halo 3, each weapon and each game mode has been tweaked and polished, its rough edges sanded down so that the carnage flows with a balletic grace that improves on Halo 2 in every way that counts.

This Is Spartaaaaaaaans

A huge range of game modes are provided by the almost infinitely configurable match settings, and old favourites like Capture the Flag and Oddball can be refined to your exact specifications easily. Want the ball carrier in Oddball to move faster than the other players? No problem. Want everyone armed with Spartan Lasers (a new weapon that kills in one shot but takes a few seconds to fire)? Go for it. Low gravity deathmatch with melee weapons only? Be my guest.

Being able to configure Halo multiplayer games is nothing new, of course, but Halo 3 takes this to new levels. The ultimate example is the Forge, an unusual sandbox mode which allows players to collaboratively edit the configuration of the level in real-time - even while games are being played. Items can be added, removed or moved around, and the resulting configurations saved and uploaded to the personal space provided for each player on Bungie's servers - space which can also be used to upload clips of your favourite moments from the game, complete with your own camera angles and editing, if you so desire. We're looking forward to YouTube being inundated with videos of ludicrous Halo physics experiments; just another feather in the cap of the Halo phenomenon.

The real triumph of Halo 3's online modes, though, lies not in the huge range of modes and options - wonderful though they are. Rather, it's in the painstaking work which has gone into perfecting the online game, integrating new ideas like Equipment - which is especially interesting in team games like Capture the Flag - into the much-loved gameplay without breaking the delicate balance that makes Halo multiplayer fun.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 7

Some of the multiplayer maps will be familiar to existing fans of Halo's online carnage offering - but there are plenty of new arenas available as well.

For what it is, it's hard to find fault with Halo's online play. It doesn't set out to be all things to all men, but what it does set out to do - namely, to provide an extremely fast-paced online FPS with a huge range of different match options - it does flawlessly. What more can you ask from a game? Players who enjoyed Halo 2 online will flock to the sequel, and rightly so. It's more of the same, but bigger, better and bolder.

Stepping back and looking at the game as a whole, it's clear that Halo 3 is exactly what Bungie would want it to be - the best game in the Halo series to date. We have criticisms, certainly - the slightly rough edges on some of the later levels being the outstanding complaint - but none major enough to detract from what is the finest game in one of the world's best-loved franchises.

If we are to nitpick, though, we do hit upon a useful caveat for some players. Simply put, Halo 3 is a completely pure first person shooter, with no pretensions to any other gameplay style. There are no puzzles to be solved, no character or weapon upgrades to be considered, and aside from a few notable sections, remarkably few vehicles to be driven around.

'Halo 3' Screenshot 8

Did we mention that the laser is good at blowing things up? Don't sob about the Warthog, worry more about the hole he just drilled in your skull.

You shoot bad guys, and that's it. If that's all you want to do, Halo 3 is perfect, or as near to damned perfect as this kind of game is going to get. For those who preferred the more cerebral moments of the likes of Half-Life 2 or Bioshock, though... Well, caveat emptor.

There is a moment late in the game, when the Master Chief wryly states that his escape plan from a tough spot is to "shoot my way out - just for a change", when the irony may cut a little close to the bone for some players. But just as you wouldn't criticise football for being too focused on kicking a ball, it's not valid to complain that Halo is too focused on shooting aliens. Nonetheless, we're aware that this game might not be everyone's cup of tea, despite the immense hype machine surrounding it.

And yet, hype machine aside, cutting through the crap about console wars and the like, what we find in Halo 3 is quite simply this - the best game yet in one of the best FPS franchises of the era. Better than either of its predecessors, Halo 3 still can't quite escape the category of flawed masterpiece - but this time around, the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down.

10 / 10

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About Rob Fahey

Rob Fahey is a former editor of GamesIndustry.biz who spent several years living in Japan and probably still has a mint condition Dreamcast Samba de Amigo set.

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  • Danoxth #1 4 years ago

    Once upon a time...

  • Pirotic #2 4 years ago

    good score, so better than halo then? ;)
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:15

  • el-pimpz #3 4 years ago

    Nice!

  • Inquisitor #4 4 years ago

    Unexpected!

  • Shinji #5 4 years ago

    good score, so better than halo then? ;)

    Better than Halo 2, and yes, even better than Halo :)

  • Gouki #6 4 years ago

    WOW this review sprung up on me. I was thinking oooo who is gonna break first.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:28

  • Toonster #7 4 years ago

    SHIT!

    AGGGGH!!!

  • jozz #8 4 years ago

    Tag line wasn't 'better than halo'. Chop a point off.

  • Dire #9 4 years ago

    BETTER THAN HALO?

  • baardhimself #10 4 years ago

    buck feans

  • Fozzie_bear #11 4 years ago

    So, better than H... oh. It's been done already.

  • the_dudefather #12 4 years ago

    incoming shitstorm

    (gets umbrella)

  • quantumsheep #13 4 years ago

    Bloody HELL!!!

    /reads

  • Xerx3s #14 4 years ago

    10/10? cue trainwreck spanning 1200 posts from people who "don't get halo". :D

  • AssassiN Verified Owner/Editor, Computers N Stuff #15 4 years ago

    Hang on? A 10? I was expecting at most a 7 from you guys.

  • ecureuil #16 4 years ago

    Omg.. surprise! :o

  • sweetcheeks #17 4 years ago

    zomg,

    u bagged a argos copy?

  • Xerx3s #18 4 years ago

    Will read the review tomorrow when I'm rendering for two hours. \0/

  • eurocloak #19 4 years ago

    So, how about that Haze game?

  • SBfistfun #20 4 years ago

    10outof10lol

  • Apologie #21 4 years ago

    not my type of game, never apreciated the "Halo" franchise..., i expect killzone 2 to be mutch more beliavable in terms of dynamics.
    Anyway i might give it a try in my 360_ rental.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:21

  • Toonster #22 4 years ago

    IT'S A LIE!

    I'LL KILL YOU! IT'S AN 8!

    Wow, I haven't gotten this worked up about a game that I'll never buy :p

  • Ignatius_Cheese #23 4 years ago

    Made for a very good read, Shinji. Congrats!

  • Ares #24 4 years ago

    Yay!

  • steoc4 #25 4 years ago

    I find it funny how the review makes a point of not talking about all the hype and baggage associated with Halo, then goes on to describe Halo 2 as brilliant, even though this very site tore to shreds the PC version of the game, which is the only version that didn't have all the hype baggage attached to it.

    I'll play through this in coop with my flatmate, not expecting much since I didn't think much of the previous ones, but I'll see how it goes.

  • Shinji #26 4 years ago

    I should have mentioned somewhere in the article that the first person to claim that 10/10 means a game is perfect is going to have their trousers filled with vicious wasps.

    Sorry mate, pass over your pants. IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.

  • zooms #27 4 years ago

    10. Them's fightin' marks.

  • Pike #28 4 years ago

    Heh! This will be a busy thread.

    The score is rather irrelevant to me though. When I finally get a 360 I would have bought this game regardless of the reviews.

    It shouldn't have got a 10 though, since no game can be perfect.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:24

  • captainrentboy #29 4 years ago

    Holy fuck, a 10!!! I just skipped to the score, now it's review reading time. I bet the PS3 lovers were bloody praying for an 8. :)

  • Scimarad #30 4 years ago

    "The Arbiter, the second playable character in Halo 2, sees his storyline all but eliminated from the final game in the trilogy"

    Oh dear, a victory for the twats who moaned about the second game:-(

  • Ares #31 4 years ago

    Heh, look at all the upset Halo detractors.

  • sweetcheeks #32 4 years ago


    This is all the ammo 360 fanbois need for the rest of the year.

    god help us

    + thanks for the early review EG

  • ExitGhost #33 4 years ago

    HATERS OWNED HALO 3 ROCKS

    and all that stuff... nice review, glad to see it lived up to the hype, can't wait to play it. I was secretly hoping for a 8 just to see some fireworks.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:30

  • lemonfist #34 4 years ago

    It's decided, then. I'm gonna have to buy me one of those self-destructing Next Gen Xboxes.

  • Danoxth #35 4 years ago

    "Ripping gun emplacements off and wandering around firing them from the hip is one of the most satisfying things we've ever done in a videogame."

    Sounds awsome.

    Just finished reading the review, well written and very nice to see it was spoiler free. Roll on Wednesday then.

  • BartonFink #36 4 years ago

    WOW - consider me speechless

  • Strac #37 4 years ago

    wasn't expecting this at all

  • morriss #38 4 years ago

    I've got goosebumps. Energetic and enthusiastic review Rob, succinctly put and all the fat trimmed.

    Two days, 2 hours and thirty two minutes and I'm so fucking there.

    Btw., did you try co-op campaign over Live? How smooth is it?

  • SAH1977 #39 4 years ago

    No game EVER deserves a 10/10, nothings perfect.

  • ecureuil #40 4 years ago

    How many comments do you think this review will get? I'm going to say 1892
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:29

  • Toonster #41 4 years ago

    Apart from SSBM

  • captainrentboy #42 4 years ago

    If no game can get a 10, why have a 1-10 rating system? As the 10, according to some of you, can never be achieved. So surely it should be a 1-9 system, but then if a game got 9, surely then that would be perfect....
    Most of us don't expect a 10 to be utter perfection, without a single flaw, but we expect it to be up there, quality wise, with the greats in its genre.

  • sweetcheeks #43 4 years ago

    halo is perfect,

    it wipes your arse and makes your tea, read the reveiw

  • Dizzy #44 4 years ago

    Wow!

    Can't wait...

    BTW fuck off all you complainers.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:34

  • Xerx3s #45 4 years ago

    Wow, the GT.com review shows some awesome scenery. This is going to be so much fun in coop. \0/

  • RM2KMaster #46 4 years ago

    Crikey!

  • joeking #47 4 years ago

    And in the press of one "1" and "0" key, the negative bile of a thousand tiresome anti-Halo trolls was expunged.

    BELIEVE!

    :D

  • polar #48 4 years ago

    10/10. Wow.

    Hopefully this means an end to the "better than Halol comments"?

  • murphy245 #49 4 years ago

    i HOPE the game lives up to its score becouse halo 2 got top reviews and that turned out to be pretty dissapointing.but im glad eurogamer cuts the crap about reviewing the game and not the hype that ms is spewing out.

  • fergal_oc #50 4 years ago

    50th

  • Erenthal #51 4 years ago

    "No game EVER deserves a 10/10, nothings perfect."

    I find this idea foolish. A range of scores must all be used, or there's no point in having them. If you never use the 10, then the 9 becomes the de-facto highest score possible. Then logically, you cannot use the 9 either since 9 is now the best of the best!

    10/10 simply means "As good as a game can be at this point in time and compared to it's contemporary peers."

  • HairyArse #52 4 years ago

    /anticipates a shit-storm

    :D

  • BobsYourUncle #53 4 years ago

    halol

  • mcmonkeyplc #54 4 years ago

    Interesting. Now to read the review.

    You should have made a "mistake and given it 1" You forgot the 0

  • lockload #55 4 years ago

    Eurogamer are biased they hate the PS3, theve been paid off by MS...

    Just posting for the grillbots ;-)

  • Shinji #56 4 years ago

    That score should so obviously be an animated gif that only pops in the "0" after you've been looking at it for a while :)

  • speedofthepuma #57 4 years ago

    Good review Rob, although over-long.

    A "brave" 10 given the text. But most importantly you couldn't ask for a more informed description and that is why EG remains my reviewer of choice, occasional *cough* blue-dragon *cough* glitch aside.

  • Gene #58 4 years ago

    OMG MASTER CHIEF IS DEAD

  • jozz #59 4 years ago

    I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T LIKE HALO

  • Eighthours #60 4 years ago

    I should have mentioned somewhere in the article that the first person to claim that 10/10 means a game is perfect is going to have their trousers filled with vicious wasps.

    Sorry mate, pass over your pants. IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.

    Rob, your verdict is right on the money. Halo 3's not perfect, as you say, but it is a colossal achievement. On Press Start Online, I gave the game our first ever "gold medal" despite its minor flaws, and I'm glad that EG's on the same page. It deserves all the massive scores it's getting, and it's my personal favourite game of this entire console generation already.

  • speedofthepuma #61 4 years ago

    oh and BTW - deliberate to post it at this prime-time slot?

  • ResidentKnievel #62 4 years ago

    yeh thanks gene

  • SAH1977 #63 4 years ago

    '10/10 simply means "As good as a game can be at this point in time and compared to it's contemporary peers."'

    So how can a game that has so many flaws, as pointed out in the review, get 10/10.

    I don't even play FPS, so couldn't careless, but would this game recieve 10/10 it it hadn't been followed by a mountain of hype?

    Looking back over gaming history so many games that were hyped and recieved great reviews were nothing more than mediocre and natural evolutions, nothing exceptional, yet at the time they were untouchable.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 20:47

  • adman123 #64 4 years ago

    10/10

    ......


    :o

  • Guv #65 4 years ago

    huh... didn't expect that, might go get it next weekend then. cheers.

  • captainrentboy #66 4 years ago

    Just read IGN'S review, they've given it 9.5 out of 10, but spent the first whole page, out of two, absolutely ripping it to shreds.
    The reviwer even admitting that he played through on Normal, even though Bungie have recommended playing through on Heroic if you're a seasoned player.
    He played on Normal, then had a massive moan that it only took six hours. Wankstain.

  • Santino #67 4 years ago

    i'm just about finished the 2nd level on the hardest difficulty setting, i really enjoyed the first level but the second is pretty ugly in places and is basically a standard corridor shooter affair (certain doors locked, only the one u are meant to walk through not locked etc). i already like it a lot better than halo 2 though, but then i REALLY didn't get on with that game. Not getting a 10 vibe from the game though i must say.

  • ExitGhost #68 4 years ago

    This game is doing a Bioshock in review scores, it's the real deal. I wonder what kind of a dent this will put in PS3 sales for the rest of the year.

    Should be interesting...

  • urban #69 4 years ago

    lies.

  • tonynibbles #70 4 years ago

    Sounds very good.

    Will definitely get this when it comes out on PC.

  • Yossarian #71 4 years ago

    WELL HERE IS MY OPINION, LET ME TELL YOU...

  • Guff-Pipe #72 4 years ago

    This game is doing a Bioshock in review scores, it's the real deal. I wonder what kind of a dent this will put in PS3 sales for the rest of the year.

    Should be interesting...

    Quite a bit I should imagine. Im all ready to F*** my ps3 off now and get a 360 after this and bioshock. Prob wont though coz use it for all my muisc and multmedia guff. looks like I will have to do some overtime and have both.

  • Twincoil #73 4 years ago

    Dear Anti-Halo brigade:

    Smoke a phat one :)

  • niteninja #74 4 years ago

    Ive played it on a chipped 360,no doubt its a really sharp looking game,however its same old slow paced shooter.
    Its an 8 of 10, microsoft has clearly paid for this review,that massive marketing cash flow has clearly been spent on the gaming media as well.
    Expect ign,gamespot and 1up to all hail this as the greatest thing in the world.
    Paid for review everyone eurogamer just got a fat pay day.
    Its a good game,not a great one thats as honest a thing I can say to anyone who hasnt played it yet.

  • Nemesis #75 4 years ago

    10/10 who knew.

    \o/

    /group hug with Lutz.

  • Azazel #76 4 years ago

    The notion of a 10/10 score is ridiculous to me - it's like saying the game is perfect and can never be surpassed, quite literally because there is no room to award a higher score to any future title.

    No... no, it's not like saying that. Once again:

    Let us make absolutely clear that a 10 is not and probably never will be "the perfect game". There's always something criticisable about a game, however small.

    A 10 will inspire the reviewer because it gets so many things correct. It will be something truly groundbreaking and aesthetically successful, be consistently enjoyable, get the balance right in difficulty terms, be technically very impressive, and be polished to a shine.     ... from the Eurogamer scoring guidelines

    Anyway... continue...


  • tedster11 #77 4 years ago

    Crummy lorks, I'm agog with surprise. Something of a curve ball that result.

  • MilkYMoO #78 4 years ago

    Oh my god I was'nt expecting a score like this.I'm utterly gobsmacked.Holy sh*t.

  • Yossarian #79 4 years ago

    I think what Shinji's review really strives to say is that it's a 10 when considered as one of the most complete packages ever released, not that the singleplayer alone is necessarily a 10.

    Which is fine by me, campaign is like foreplay for the coming years of multiplayer.

    Not that I get to try either for another month, if not three...

  • morriss #80 4 years ago

    What's happened, Yoss?

  • Azazel #81 4 years ago

    Like... zomg and stuff.

  • gaselite #82 4 years ago

    Let's cut the crap. Halo 3 IS just a videogame, as you quite rightly point out. Yet, after trying to convince us to look past it as an event, EG somehow sees fit to give it a fairly unwarranted 4 page review regardless? I'm sick of games that are marketed to buggery.

    Highly polished FPS though it may be - and I realise I haven't played this iteration, although you do call it 'more of the same, except tweaked well' so I speak while referring to the past Halo games - I struggle to see how this game could measure up to, for example, another recent 10/10 of yours Bioshock, which I had the pleasure of finishing the other day and was quite amazing. Unlike the past Halo games, both of which I did play, Bioshock was intelligent and complex from a narrative perspective, beautiful, unique (for gaming) and interesting from an artistic perspective and taut, tense yet enjoyable and ruthlessly compelling from a design perspective.

    With regards to multiplayer, although I appreciate the choice, I firmly believe in the case of 'less is more' rather than being bludgeoned over the head with a wealth of options, many of which turn out to be mostly useless and ignored by the community.

    You'll forgive my cynicism, I realise the Halo games are far from 'bad' in the traditional sense (I mostly agreed with the past two Halo reviews, although maybe would've rated them a 7/10 on the EG scale) and I'm not interested in all this platform bias malarkey (I own all three consoles and the PC is still the best platform after all these years ;) ), they're just not the be all and end all of first person shooters that so many would have me believe based on my experiences with the games to date. I'll be interested to see if this 10/10 stands up to scrutiny once the initial giddiness of a big release subsides, or whether EG have produced another staggeringly accurately written review when I finally get around to playing it.

  • ave #83 4 years ago

    8 hours long :( Thats an excellent €8 per hour for the single player, I'm sure i'll be buying this at full price.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 21:04

  • DjFlex52 #84 4 years ago

    hmmm....360 gets 2 games with 10 review scores in EG in less than a month.
    Sony has their work cut out for them....Uncharted and R&C better be 10s :)

    nice review, Shinji!

  • Apostle #85 4 years ago

    Load of CrapBox lovers on this site. Like Duffkng.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 21:09

  • Canadian_Mike #86 4 years ago

    Wow.

    Better than Sega Rally Revo?

  • DUFFKING #87 4 years ago

    ave, stick in on heroic and it clocks in at 12 hours

    And apostle, fuck off. People are allowed to like games on the console they own you stupid tit.
    Edited by 2 at 23/09/07 @ 21:06

  • niteninja #88 4 years ago

    Its a blast in split screen co op by the way.

  • Yossarian #89 4 years ago

    What's happened, Yoss?

    I decided not to take my 360 with me when I moved to England a week ago for my year-long masters. I'll be home for a weekend in October and again at Christmas and Easter for a few weeks, so I'll have campaign done shortly, but the real meat of it for me is multiplayer, and I just have to hope that I don't fall too far behind the crowd to really get into it when I have the time to spare. But since I was still playing Halo 2 a few days before I left, some three years after release, I think there is plenty of Halo 3 to come.

    I am insanely jealous of you all, though. :'(

  • killyourtv #90 4 years ago

    if this game wasnt called halo, and it wasn't hyped it would probably just get an 8 or something

  • George-Roper #91 4 years ago

    10/10

    'nuff said

  • sajtion #92 4 years ago

    well i think if game has any minor flaws then it doesn't deserve 10 out of 10

  • Yossarian #93 4 years ago

    if this game wasnt called halo, and it wasn't hyped it would probably just get an 8 or something

    IMPORTANT POST, EVERYBODY PLEASE READ.

  • Sectus #94 4 years ago

    *sigh* I suppose we'll have to wait a few years before we get the "real" review where the game gets a deserving 6 or 7 score, as with the Halo 2 PC review.

    There's no way in heck this game deserves 10/10. Replay and multiplayer options are nice, but the game itself is freaking identical to Halo 1 and 2. There exists far better FPS games than this.

  • Santino #95 4 years ago

    so far the game looks pretty nice in places, especially the first level, but then sometimes it startles with how poor some areas look in comparison to others, especially some of the inside areas. i'm confused by the jaggies, sometimes there don't seem to be any and other times they are obvious.

  • mcmonkeyplc #96 4 years ago

    002.02.47.07

  • foamy #97 4 years ago

    Was gonna buy this anyway, just to finish the story, glad they actually made nice improvements :D

  • niteninja #98 4 years ago

    Movie studios have paid magazines for reviews for decades,you really think the games industry is any different.

  • rashes #99 4 years ago

    @niteninja

    Why don;t you pay for your games and then maybe you can comment on them. And EG are not a site for giving in to hype.

  • JediMasterMalik #100 4 years ago

    Another Halo article? Are you serious EG? Jsus christ this site was built for the Halo Hype machine!

    /actually wants this game and is jealous

  • jamhead #101 4 years ago

    Dammit. I haven't played the first two, and can't be bothered. Will it ruin the third one not to have done?

  • morriss #102 4 years ago

    @Yoss. :(

  • Phattso #103 4 years ago

    Interesting review, and nice to get it hot off the press. I was hoping for some details in one of those four (!) pages regarding the co-op mode in the main campaign, as that's what I'll be buying it for, but I can appreciate it may not have been possible to play through the whole thing again in co-op in time to finish the review.

    Would be nice to get an addendum once you have, perhaps?

  • polar #104 4 years ago

    @ Owen.

    It didn't really read like a 10 at all, but perhaps that was due to the restrictions Ms placed on reviewers. It's possible that Shinji wasn't able to discuss everthing that he liked about the game.

  • Daan #105 4 years ago

    Unexpected, but awesome :)

  • ExitGhost #106 4 years ago

    Faults seem bigger at a games launch, like you say. As time passes you sometimes look back on games that were treated harshley and say, you know what that game was pretty effing good. I hated Raiden with a passion in MGS2 when I played it all those years ago, but now looking back he was actually a pretty neat character and is the one thing I remember about that game more than anything else.

    Whatever bad is being said about Halo 3, if it's small like the EG review says, then it will soon be forgotten and people will just get on with the business of fragging each other until Xbox 720.

  • niteninja #107 4 years ago

    EG not a site for giving in to hype?
    Have you even read the review.

  • Shinji #108 4 years ago

    gaselite - I don't think Halo 3 is directly comparable to Bioshock, because they aim for totally different goals. Bioshock is all about the narrative and atmosphere; Halo 3 is all about the direct minute to minute gameplay. Each one succeeds wonderfully in their own arena. You can't realistically slam Halo 3 for failing to do what Bioshock did; that's like saying football is crapper than F1 because it has less cars in it.

    That said - to my mind, Halo 3 is the more polished product - I would have struggled to score Bioshock higher than 9 had I reviewed it, just because the second half is so weak in places.

  • Shinji #109 4 years ago

    Also, niteninja has clearly worked out the truth of it - I'm now being paid off by Sony, Nintendo AND Microsoft. I have been forced to open a Scrooge McDuck style vault to hold all the money, just so I can swim around in it occasionally :)

  • Yossarian #110 4 years ago

    @Yoss. :(

    Yeah it's kinda a bitch, but it's self-inflicted both for practical reasons, and because I really want to dedicate the time and attention to my course. I guess this is what being a boring grown-up feels like.

  • ExitGhost #111 4 years ago

    And can all PC elitist tools get out of here with your Halo 3 doesn't deserve 10,

    They said it is as perfect a FPS as you're going to find, with some of the best designed levels ever made.

    So eff off.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 23:44

  • tonynibbles #112 4 years ago

    I think the PC elitists will just buy a copy when it comes out for PC...

  • BartonFink #113 4 years ago

    \o/ No more playing as the Arbiter. Thank fcuk for that
    Good review Shinji

    Any news on co-op play?

  • polar #114 4 years ago

    Well it did say that the reviewers weren't able to discuss the story at all (as did other reviews). Perhaps some of the best set pieces and the like are directly tied into the story?

    I thought it read more like a 9/10 but I don't think that a game can ever be perfect and as far as I'm concerned 10/10 marks should be given to games that are the best in their class. Rob clearly believes it is.

  • Shinji #115 4 years ago

    Owen-B - there's actually a little truth to that, we did get asked by Microsoft not to mention or allude to a large number of things in the plot of the game, so I can't go into that area in any depth. Their reasoning is sound though, and spoilers aren't something anyone will thank us for. It's an unusual restriction on a review though.

    That said, I'm surprised you think it reads lower than 10 - if anything, I think the criticisms I make are largely made with the caveat that I don't think they're valid points to mark down the game for. It sets out to achieve an objective, and achieves it near-flawlessly - and it's a wonderful, wonderful game that people are going to be playing enthusiastically for years. That's a 10, clear as day.

  • DjFlex52 #116 4 years ago

    This review isn't even 2 hours old and already has 125 posts and hummin

    I'm predicting this thread surpasses Bioshock's in record time ;)

  • niteninja #117 4 years ago

    Shinji We both agree its a good game,but its far from perfect.
    Its not even in the same league as Crysis.

  • polar #118 4 years ago

    @ Shinji.

    I think people rate the score of a review based on how much txt is given to plus points versus minus points. As you say, people will find fault with anything, so it's only reasonable to assume a 10/10 review would detail the flaws of a game. Having said that I thought your last post was more positive that the review itself for some reason.

  • DUFFKING #119 4 years ago

    OH NOES THE GAME HASNT GOT THE EXACT SCORE I WANTED IT TO HAVE I MUST COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMEONE ELSES OPINION GRRRRRRR

  • Leolian #120 4 years ago

    That review had 8/10 all over it.

  • jlaakso #121 4 years ago

    Oh thank god. Can't wait till tuesday to get my copy.

    Still can't be arsed to finish Halo 2, though.

  • polar #122 4 years ago

    @ rob177467

    I can't see Edge giving it 10 that's for sure. I'd say they'll give it 8.

  • rob177467 #123 4 years ago

    They gave halo 2 a nine though, and they ran a large feature on it a few months back where they were v positive

  • Yossarian #124 4 years ago

    As much of an advocate as I am for Bioshock's awesomeness, I also feel it's a terribly flawed game in some respects, and I think a lot of the people who, like me, are initially sucked in by its atmosphere, ambition, plot, etc. are overlooking the game's many faults. You may not like Halo 3, it may not match up to your idea of what a first person shooter should be, or where the genre should be headed, but from every review I'm reading, it sounds like it ultimately succeeds at being exactly what it wants to be (to paraphrase Shinji: a barn-storming, blockbuster sci-fi epic about shooting aliens in bursts of thirty seconds of fun, again and again). Bioshock falls at quite a number of hurdles, especially the last few.

  • DDevil #125 4 years ago

    Well written review. Pleasure to read. Thanks.

    10/10 though? I seem to remember someone saying this had "8/10 written all over it" :-P

  • DDevil #126 4 years ago

    Oh and by the way...

    BETTER THAN SPACE GIRAFFE :-D

  • foamy #127 4 years ago

    Now, we mortals, need to wait 'till 26th ...

  • striker #128 4 years ago

    >niteninja
    Shinji We both agree its a good game,but its far from perfect.
    Its not even in the same league as Crysis.

    Yeah, the game you haven't played is worst than the game no one has played...

  • Drakron #129 4 years ago

    I stop caring about EG score when Oblivion got a 10.

    Also I given up on reading after the 2nd page of the review, I guess this is going to end up as Halo 2 for me ... I get it months later at a reduced price.

  • MrsPacMan #130 4 years ago

    PS3 is all but dead now

  • morriss #131 4 years ago

    @Yoss, I'm doing my masters, own a house and am married with a child. There's always space for Halo! ;)

  • Katsumoto #132 4 years ago

    good for you, everyone who was desperately looking forward to this. Sounds like it's come good after all. I was never much into Halo, and thought it would be going downhill non stop after the first one, so glad to see they didnt just make a cheap cash in. I've also blocked all the xbots so I haven't even seen any "LOL IN YOUR FACE NON-360 OWNERS" comments. I'm happy!
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 21:49

  • MrsPacMan #133 4 years ago

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox 360/halo3?q=halo%203
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/x box360/bioshock?q=bioshock
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    Sell your PS3 and buy these!!!!

  • eurocloak #134 4 years ago

    "PS3 is all but dead now"

    TGS was last week...
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 21:48

  • Fyzzu #135 4 years ago

    Haven't played except in multiplayer, and by pretty much every comment I've heard, the Crysis multiplayer is a bit gash.

    I admit the review read (to me) more like a 9 but that's perhaps my jaded cynicism more than anything, albeit combined with my wariness of the Halo hype machine and past scores. And yes, 10 is a score that should be rare, but awarded to exceptional games. I've always figured the score was more as to exactly how special the game was, how much the reviewer liked it etc., rather than a scientific evaluation where 10 = PERFECT NO FLAWS WHATSOEVER BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE EVER WHETHER GAME OR OTHERWISE. Different strokes, though; whether or not you believe games should ever get a 10, you should be able to realise that it really does have to be fairly spectacular to get that score. Which is the main thing, right? Right?

  • FunkyRenegade #136 4 years ago

    I'm more than surprised about the 10 to be honest, I expected a 9 at most, makes my excitement about it even greater :D

  • MrsPacMan #137 4 years ago

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3 /heavenlysword?q=sword
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/war hawk?q=warhawk
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/p s3/motorstorm?q=motorstorm
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    lol

  • Drakron #138 4 years ago

    you should be able to realise that it really does have to be fairly spectacular to get that score. Which is the main thing, right? Right?

    Oblivion got a 10 so no, it does not.

  • tonynibbles #139 4 years ago

    lol @ MrsPacMan

    At least those PS3 games are exclusive.

    They wont be coming out on PC 6 months down the line...

  • andromeda #140 4 years ago

    nowt to say just wanna jump on what could turn out to be the longest thread ever.
    And the reivews only been up an hour or two!
    let it roll.

  • MrsPacMan #141 4 years ago

    Tony, get a life and a 360

    you know you want to!!!
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 21:55

  • George-Roper #142 4 years ago

    @tonynibbles

    "lol @ MrsPacMan

    At least those PS3 games are exclusive.

    They wont be coming out on PC 6 months down the line..."

    Hey, as long as it's *exclusive* mediocrity, it's all good, huh?

  • FaceOmeter #143 4 years ago

    159th

  • Katsumoto #144 4 years ago

    Since when was 80 mediocre. Sigh.

  • tonynibbles #145 4 years ago

    There's nothing mediocre about WarHawk, Heavenly Sword or MotorStorm. Not sure why you picked them out PacMan... That metacritic site puts HS ahead of H3 - Obviously some sort of error.

  • MrsPacMan #146 4 years ago

    lol, nice one george

  • steoc4 #147 4 years ago

    @ MrsPacman & Roper

    [link url=http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbx/halo 2?q=halo%202
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

    v

    http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...


    Wonder if Halo 3 will turn out the same once the not-hyped-to-hell version comes out on a platform that isn't so dependant on it?

  • Monkey_Puncher #148 4 years ago

    The previous Halo games took 2 years to come out on PC....about the same time it's taking for an above average game to come out on.....actually I won't even go there

  • JediMasterMalik #149 4 years ago

    Fucking hell guys, enjoy your 360's, no need to piss on PS3 games at every opportunity, get a fucking life. Scores in the 80's are far from mediocre.

  • George-Roper #150 4 years ago

    @Katsumoto

    "Since when was 80 mediocre. Sigh."

    Since said titles were supposed to be blockbusters making the sale of a 450+ quid console justified.

    That's when.

  • darshannon #151 4 years ago

    I've just finished the original Halo and am now playing through the Halo 2, and I must say, that if the third game is as major a step up for the series, as the the second was, then this score is more than justified.

  • Lonestar #152 4 years ago

    It should be noted that Eurogamer in no way favours certain developers or game franchises.

    / Goes off to read the Sensible Soccer 2006 9/10 review...

  • tonynibbles #153 4 years ago

    7/10

  • JediMasterMalik #154 4 years ago

    Halo2majorstepuplol

  • MrsPacMan #155 4 years ago

    Let's do a sweepstake on when a PS3 game will receive a another 9 or better on EG.... I bag Jan 09. No wait I bag never.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 22:09

  • MrsPacMan #156 4 years ago

    So it's now a 96?

  • Katsumoto #157 4 years ago

    Uh, nope, 80 is still not mediocre, regardless of hype/marketing. Or are you saying a game that gets 50% should be bumped up to 70% if noone has heard of it?

  • JediMasterMalik #158 4 years ago

    @Katsumoto - No no, it only works in the negative, and only for PS3 games. :)

  • DjFlex52 #159 4 years ago

    Let's do a sweepstake on when a PS3 game will receive a 9 or better on EG.... I bag Jan 09. No wait I bag never.

    @MrsPacMan

    Sorry, MGS4 will definitely get a 9 or better and probably so will Ratchet and LBP...all before '09

  • MrsPacMan #160 4 years ago

    @DjFlex52

    You hope

    If they don't get the usual PS3 delay

    Go Home
    Edited by 2 at 23/09/07 @ 22:15

  • tonynibbles #161 4 years ago

    Have you actually read any PS3 EG reviews Pacman?

    Wasn't Oblivion a 10 on PS3 and clearly the best console version available?
    Doesn't count of course, it's multiplatform (ahem - like most 360 games).

    There have been a couple of PS3 9's on EG haven't there? SSHD got a 9.

  • jozz #162 4 years ago

    JediMasterMalik is defending the realm admirably.

  • Tejstar #163 4 years ago

    I never saw this getting a 10/10 in a million years - tbh I thought this would complete a trilogy of 8/10's!

  • MrsPacMan #164 4 years ago

    @tony

    Sorry you are right. I meant exclusives, not 6-12 month updates

  • George-Roper #165 4 years ago

    @Katsumoto

    "Uh, nope, 80 is still not mediocre, regardless of hype/marketing. Or are you saying a game that gets 50% should be bumped up to 70% if noone has heard of it?"

    Oh phuuuleeeese.

    One of those fucking games was out at the PS3 *release*, ffs, and yet it's still latched onto by people like you as justification.

    Heavenly Sword was hyped to be the mother of all beat-em-ups and came out decidedly unimpressive and short.

    Warhawk, bless it, turned out 'ok' in the end. Surprise surprise, the one game that had major development reworking turned out 'ok'.

    Still, nothing listed would make anyone with a brain in their heads rush out to buy a PS3. In fact, if TGS is anything to go by (and it is) you'd be fucking crazy to spend any money on a PS3 until at least next March.

    360 has had two, read it TWO, EG 10/10 scores in the last few weeks. We've yet to see anything of that caliber on the PS3.

    Moan, whine and piss all you want. Facts are right there.

  • tonynibbles #166 4 years ago

    oh ffs you clearly stated some utter bullshit which I was prepared to proove wrong.
    I did so and now you're furiously wanking yourself silly over the sound of your own jibes.

    This is boring. Shut up.

  • Katsumoto #167 4 years ago

    lewls. I don't even own a ps3 :p.

  • zooms #168 4 years ago

    I'm going now. But if you could all carry on with your rants, diatribes and insane partisanship it would be much appreciated, as it will give me something to read tomorrow.

    10. Wow.

  • steoc4 #169 4 years ago

    @George - one of those 10/10 games is better played on PC, and the other one is Halo, which from experience I know is not as good as the Microsoft pay people to say it is (see the far more accurate PC reviews rather than the xbox reviews). Maybe it will shock me by being completely different to the previous two but somehow doubt it.


  • MrsPacMan #170 4 years ago

    I love it, this is great. And I only own a gameboy (original)

  • jozz #171 4 years ago

    This thread has been shat on from a great height. Thanks for taking part!

  • MrsPacMan #172 4 years ago

    @jozz, go screw your dog

  • George-Roper #173 4 years ago

    @tonynibbles

    "oh ffs you clearly stated some utter bullshit which I was prepared to proove wrong.
    I did so and now you're furiously wanking yourself silly over the sound of your own jibes.

    This is boring. Shut up."

    The point is, 'mediocre' is fucking justified when said games are hyped by the Sony marketing machine as being the Second Coming of gaming.

    Sorry, paint it anyway you like. Facts are, PS3 has had NOT ONE major, blockbuster, release. To date.

    Cry me a fucking river.

  • THATinkjar #174 4 years ago

    I wonder what EG would give Gargoyle's Quest.

    Oh and... cor, blimey - a 10! etc, etc. I'm hyped - roll on Wednesday.
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 22:28

  • Xerx3s #175 4 years ago

    Only less than 200 posts? You people disappoint me! GoW had more than this!

  • MrsPacMan #176 4 years ago

    George, I love you

  • GitSomE_UK #177 4 years ago

    Good review, it read like a 9 to me but I can understand why it's a 10. For many Halo2 is the best MP game on the 360 however, since COD4 and TF2 I don't know how long it will hold that title spot.

    I'm glad they dumped the Arbiter, that really jarred with Halo 2.

  • FaceOmeter #178 4 years ago

    I'd like to step in at this point and say what an aweome gaming machine the Nintendo Wii is?

    http://www.xkcd.com/186/

  • DjFlex52 #179 4 years ago

    @DjFlex52

    You hope

    @MrsPacMan

    not really...well, maybe ;)
    I don't own a PS3 yet but when those 9s and 10s start pouring in with a price drop, i'll be getting one so i "hope" the PS3 gets rolling sometime next year until the next wave of 360 blockbusters come along.
    I've been playing Bioshock, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata the last 3 weeks and my H3 is on the way so I'm a happy camper.

  • Xerx3s #180 4 years ago

    niteninja: You, sir, are so far up your own arse that you can go around twice. Saying that someone is corrupt without a shred of evidence is downright insulting for the people who busted their balls to get the review done in time. Thx, that was all.

  • MrsPacMan #181 4 years ago

    Me too Dj, can you give us a date on the flood of titles? So I can start saving
    Edited by 1 at 23/09/07 @ 22:36

  • Gl3n #182 4 years ago

    WHAT THE FUCK, TEN?! THIS IS EG NOT IGN!

  • Kiigan #183 4 years ago

    I would have docked a few points (e.g. 10 points) because of chapter 8 in the campaign mode.

  • mkreku #184 4 years ago

    Hmm.. After getting Oblivion and Bioshock based on the tens from this very site, I'm not so hyped about ANOTHER suspect ten from the team at Eurogamer..

    But I'll be playing this sooner or later anyhow.

  • jozz #185 4 years ago

    Pacman, if you stop posting I will, honestly.

    /serious face

  • DjFlex52 #186 4 years ago

    Me too Dj, can you give us a date on the flood of titles? So I can start saving

    @MrsPacMan

    well, thats hard to say...you know, PS3 delays and all
    But Harrison keeps saying they're coming ;)

  • MrsPacMan #187 4 years ago

    @jozz

    Has the dog had enough?

  • tonynibbles #188 4 years ago

    I think you are confusing the term 'blockbuster'.
    Most blockbuster titles are EA games that go straight in at #1 in the charts on all formats but yet have scores along the lines of mediocre.

    I think you mean that PS3 doesn't, to date, have an exclusive retail released game that's scored 10/10 on EG. Which is of course very true but not surprising considering the consoles infancy. Does the Wii have a 10/10? I don't think anyone gives a shit - they're having too much fun dancing round their living room.

    Why are you bothering to point this out? Are 10/10's really that important to you?

    A good game is a good game you enjoy. Enjoy it.
    Edited by 2 at 23/09/07 @ 22:42

  • DjFlex52 #189 4 years ago

    Hmm.. After getting Oblivion and Bioshock based on the tens from this very site, I'm not so hyped about ANOTHER suspect ten from the team at Eurogamer..

    @mkreku

    Even if they're not 10s in your book...were they enjoyable++ and worth buying?

  • niteninja #190 4 years ago

    Xerx3s You are very welcome to your opinions.
    I do understand that people work hard to get the reviews done, no doubt about that
    Im just saying that having played the game myself, its not perfect and isnt even the best shooter this year in my opinion.
    Its getting fantastic review scores and they are not justified.
    The map editor is tons of fun the co op is very good, but it doesnt do anything to warrent 10/10 thats just my opinion.

  • jozz #191 4 years ago

    My nan has better retorts than that. Must try harder pacman.

  • George-Roper #192 4 years ago

    @tonynibbles

    Mr Connery once said 'Winners go home and fuck the prom queen'

  • IMO #193 4 years ago

    WHY WAS I NOT HERE SOONER?! CAN I STILL SET UP A POPCORN STAND?!?!

  • MrsPacMan #194 4 years ago

    where was yours?

    Ask your nan to write it for you

  • Nikanoru #195 4 years ago

    Yeah, after the horrible debacle that was EG's FF12 10/10 I'm gonna wait and see on this one, thank you very much!

    Is it just me, or is there a specific "10/10 formula" that's just getting really effing boring?

  • captain-future #196 4 years ago

    So better than Halo...?

    Wow, that's a landmark review - if I trust one thing (almost) completely it's a solid 10 from Eurogamer.

  • GuitarWolf #197 4 years ago

    wow 4 pages!

  • SHPanda #198 4 years ago

    What a joke, I know going off the scores of the two previous Halo games not to pay any attention to the score of this one.

  • evild_edd #199 4 years ago

    As sad as it may sound to some, I've got my pre-order in and am planning a mindnight pickup on tuesday night/wednesday morning. Very happy this got a 10 as it goes to show that the title live up to the hype unlike, for the SP at least, Halo 2.

    This game is the one game to rule them all. The SP shall dominate my solo gaming time.... at least until Mass Effect gets released. The MP shall dominate my online gaming for the foreseeable future - though I can only see as far as the Call of Duty 4 release date!!! ;D

    ///kisses 360 for it's gaming goodness
    ///prays his 360 doesn't suffer another bout of RRoD

  • steoc4 #200 4 years ago

    Heh some nice work from Microsoft on Gametrailers. The first two pages are nothing but videos of Halo 3 Halo 3 Halo 3, and a good thing too because they're now hiding the flood of incredible games that were coming from TGS like Valkyrie of the Battlefield, No More Heroes, MGS, White Knight Story, Patapon and many others that are primarily for Sony and Nintendo consoles, which interest me far more than Halo ever will.

    I wonder how much they paid for that.

  • MrsPacMan #201 4 years ago

    @Steoc4

    Your pissed because the PS3 pad doesn't rumble when it's stuck up you ass.

  • Turrican #202 4 years ago

    Still no word on the co-op - did you only have the one review copy?

    I'm going to pick this up in a few weeks and wait for my 3 friends to do the same for some co-op campaign gaming, not bothered about playing it solo again, especially as I have Bioshock to trudge through first.

    And yes, it reads like a 9, in my opinion 10 should offer something truly original or an advancement of gaming, this just looks like a polished version of Halo 2. Of course its their site so its their opinion that counts for the score ;p

  • saysomething #203 4 years ago

    "It may not be gold, but it's the most perfectly polished silver we've seen."

    Good enough for me.

  • KingOfTheC #204 4 years ago

    It's 10/10, not 100% (i know that, mathematically that's completely wrong but bear with me). It doesn't mean that nothing can or will ever surpass it.

    That kind of thinking would imply that when pong came out any reviewers should've given it a 1/10 in order to leave room for future games reviewers.

    A very good review, has made me very excited for wednesday now. I enjoyed halo 2 an awful lot online so for this to get a better score, well, that's just fantastic.

    See you guys on wednesday night ;)

  • mkreku #205 4 years ago

    @DjFlex52:

    Hmm, if you put it that way, then yeah, I think I got my money's worth from Oblivion after modding it to hell and back.

    But Bioshock.. I was so hyped about that game (I absolutely loved System Shock 2, which I consider being a RPG) that I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition for 60€. When the ridiculous endboss fell after appr. 10 hours of gametime I realised the game has no multiplayer, I had already gotten all the plasmids & tonics, photographed every enemy in the game and that there was nothing there to keep me coming back.

    And five enemies?! Why didn't the review mention that there were FIVE enemy types in the entire game?? That's a HUGE flaw for me at least. Also, it felt completely dumbed down in the game mechanics department. All character development has been ripped away and the only thing remaining is combat. I liked the story, but it's still just a shooter as compared to System Shock 2 that had a lot more depth.

    OK, I should stop ranting now, especially in a thread celebrating Halo 3's great score :) I'll just say that it's sad that I can no longer trust EG's scores to pre-order games. It was so convenient to have a place to go to for trustworthy reviews.

  • dredd97 #206 4 years ago

    @MrsPacMan

    hey how you doing pissy breath.. still talking bollocks, or did microsoft sack you?

  • mkreku #207 4 years ago

    MrsPacMan: Your pissed because the PS3 pad doesn't rumble when it's stuck up you ass.

    That makes it sound like the reason you're happy you have an Xbox 360 is because its pad rumbles when you have it stuck up your arse.. :)

  • jozz #208 4 years ago

    :/

    I'd feel a bit bad for him if it weren't for that whole 'being such an utter cretin' thing.

  • The-Bodybuilder #209 4 years ago

    I love how so many anti-halo guys have poured in to attack rob's review and the score.

    Face it, no matter how much you try, it's not gonna stop things. Halo got a 10. DEAL WITH IT, LOSERS.

    Oh, and FYI for those who don't know, halo 3 isn't coming out on the PC (as stated in a recent interview). Halo came to the pc is it was intended for it in the first place, halo 2 was a marketing tool to push windows vista games. There's no reason for doing the same with halo 3.

  • Waffleaber #210 4 years ago

    Wow I can't miss an opportunity to get in on this massive event (the comments thread not Halo)

    Can't remember this much fuss when Slitherlink got a 10

  • MrsPacMan #211 4 years ago

    @jozz

    Did she write that? Your gran needs some lessons.

  • xdiesp #212 4 years ago

    10/10 after all those complaints?
    You have become a disappointment, Eurogamer!
    It looked much more like a 7.5-8 review.

  • jozz #213 4 years ago

    :|

  • Latin #214 4 years ago

    All sounds good, initially looking forward to the single player (starting at heroic difficulty) but can't wait to start messing around with Forge

  • MrsPacMan #215 4 years ago

    @mkreku

    I like it in any hole, but the xbox 360 controller is by far the best, imho

  • projectmayhem #216 4 years ago

    the "Bungie effect" of loosing fidelity through the campaign in both storyline and actual game design coupled with Microsofts flagship developer coming out with an engine that doesn't push the 360 to its very limits (or maybe it does, and the 360 just isn't as powerful as we want it to be) doesn't scream "10/10" to me.

    yes, it's probably a finely crafted experience like the other two. yes, it's very cinematic in a way that no FPS has managed to create previously, or re-create since. yes, it's "cool" to like it. but 10/10 doesn't sit right with me. the flaws listed aren't huge aping issues, but they're enough to dock a point or two from the score.

    i suppose Bungie and Microsoft will be pleased with this one. makes them look that bit better on Metacritic when IGN and other such dolts slap 10/10 for no reason after reviewing it like 10 year olds. such a shame EG pulled an IGN...

  • captain-future #217 4 years ago

    Did I miss something? What about the Saved Films feature?

  • foamy #218 4 years ago

    It's 10/10, not 100% (i know that, mathematically that's completely wrong but bear with me). It doesn't mean that nothing can or will ever surpass it.

    That kind of thinking would imply that when pong came out any reviewers should've given it a 1/10 in order to leave room for future games reviewers.

    I actually laughed. Thx.

  • xdiesp #219 4 years ago

    If Eurogamer starts giving 10s to big productions no matter their faults, then it's no different than Gamespot and IGN which are at least sweeter on the eye.

    Where aren't we hostage to fanboys yet? The Escapist?

  • DjFlex52 #220 4 years ago

    @DjFlex52:

    Hmm, if you put it that way, then yeah, I think I got my money's worth from Oblivion after modding it to hell and back.

    And five enemies?! Why didn't the review mention that there were FIVE enemy types in the entire game?? That's a HUGE flaw for me at least. Also, it felt completely dumbed down in the game mechanics department. All character development has been ripped away and the only thing remaining is combat. I liked the story, but it's still just a shooter as compared to System Shock 2 that had a lot more depth.

    @mkreku

    totally agree, mkreku...they dumbed down the game for consoles which ultimately made depth expendable. Just be glad SS2 was made for the PC :)

    I wish Bioshock could be modded as Oblivion was. Thats what intrigues me about H3. For a console game, Bungie gave console gamers these semi-modding functions that no other console game in history has even attempted....with Forge. I'm curious to see what evolves from it.

  • ExitGhost #221 4 years ago

    Halo 3 deserves a 10/10 more than Bioshock imo. Bioshock was a amazing game...for a few days. The last boss and ending was a damp squid, the last 20% of the game felt rushed and lacked the quality of the first half of the game (even the developers said they spent most of the time on the first three levels) .I'm not going to hate on Bioshock anymore as I like the game, (enemy variety lolz)

    but if you want to complain about perfect scores, go piss on the Bioshock and FFXII scores before Halo 3, as that deserves the score it got here. Yes I know you're sick of hearing about Halo 3, I think we all are by now, but that's no reason to troll the fuck out of it.

  • gaijin #222 4 years ago

    my 360 bricked today.

    perfect timing

    :-l

  • mkreku #223 4 years ago

    @MrsPacMan: Man, you must have a huge ass.

  • Eighthours #224 4 years ago

    ...and this is why we just dropped scores.

    For Christ's sake, guys: THE TEXT. Concentrate on the text!

  • ExitGhost #225 4 years ago

    And about all this talk of a PC version, Shane Kim has said there will not be a PC version as far as plans at the moment go. He said they've been down that road with Halo and Halo 2, and there is no need to do it with Halo 3.

  • morriss #226 4 years ago

    No scores ftl.

  • GrandpaUlrira #227 4 years ago

    I thought this was reading like a 9. Good review!

  • projectmayhem #228 4 years ago

    @xdiesp:

    the escapist can be overly critical to stand out from the crowd. no fanboys for sure, but they can bitch and moan like a hormonal woman when they want to. that said, zero punctuation is hilarous.

    @Eighthours:

    it's the fact that the TEXT critiqued some serious flaws in the game that should have been addressed since halo and halo2, then went on to give it the "perfect" score that's the problem...

  • Ace_McCloud #229 4 years ago

    I hate Halo, WAA WAA WAA!!

    Shut up and go home ffs, you're boring.

    For the record, this "no game can be ten out of ten" argument is ridiculous. Why the fuck not? Who says 10/10 is perfection that cannot be bettered? Do you say the same when film reviewers give a film 5/5? The reviewer states in his opinion it's the best FPS of its type yet. Some other FPS's have gotten a 9, so surely if they are to be bettered then we need that hallowed 10?....

    Fuck it, it's all just semantics, 10/10 should not be untouchable, what's the point in having a number you can't use!!?!?!?

  • ExitGhost #230 4 years ago

    People live for scores though, it's what makes sport interesting. Take away the score and Eurogamer would go down the shitter pretty quickly.

    99% of the people here didn't even read the review before getting to page 4, looked at the score and posted here. The score is what they've been waiting for, fuck the review.

    :)

    I love Eurogamer reviews really, very well written, and I agree with the score...40% of the time.

  • Isere #231 4 years ago

    I swear some people around here would give up something they dearly love, only if somehow they could cause another person grief. Which is quite sad, just like these individuals who sit on both sides of the 360/PS3 fence waiting for the other party to die.

    Not happening.

    @MrsPacMan

    Since you asked.....

    Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
    Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
    Haze
    Unreal Tournament III
    Infamous
    Killzone 2
    LittleBigPlanet
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    Heavy Rain
    Eight Days
    Getaway
    Final Fantasy XIII
    Final Fantasy Versus XIII
    White Knight Story
    flOwer
    echochrome
    Afrika
    Aqua
    Gran Turismo 5
    MotorStorm 2
    PAIN
    WarDevil
    God of War 3
    Rockstar's PS3 Exclusive Project
    Team Ico's Next Project

    ..... are the ones that interest me.



    Edited by 3 at 24/09/07 @ 00:43

  • ExitGhost #232 4 years ago

    Gonna pick this up next week along with Sega rally, that massive Sega Rally advert here on Eurogamer is making my pants wet,

    mission accomplished Eurogamer.

  • Latin #233 4 years ago

    @projectmayhem

    What "serious" flaws are mentioned? The reviewer clearly says that the flaws are not serious. Here is the actual quote:

    "the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down"

    Once again show me where serious flaws are mentioned.

    Get over it, the game is actually good, why does this bother you?

  • JayeM #234 4 years ago

    Great review. Well written. :)

  • ExitGhost #235 4 years ago

    Don't mind them, Halo haters can spin something to the point that would make Alistair campbell blush. They gambled all on Halo 3 flopping and lost. Listening to them you would think Halo 3 fired a missile straight into their houses which killed their parents and left all the babies crippled for life.

    Halo leaves a strong impression on some people, for some good, for others it's like the devil himself has possesed their soul. These people we call Halo haters or "PC gamers"
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 00:03

  • Weezer #236 4 years ago

    I'll be at the launch Tuesday night. Better be a free copy in the goody bag...

  • el_pollo_diablo #237 4 years ago

    A NOTE ABOUT SCORING SYSTEMS:

    A review is just the opinion of one person. If they want to give it a 1 or a 10, then that's fine.

  • admir #238 4 years ago

    having played halo 1 & 2 and they both got a high score and i tried to like them but to be honest they sucked well they were average 7/10 that would be my score. I didnt play halo 3 so i am not going to judge the game i am sure Bungie learned from halo 1&2 what people want. iam sure some people will like it and some people wont

  • wired009 #239 4 years ago

    I don't know if anyone else has asked this, but what about the four player co-op mode? I didn't see this feature mentioned in the review and I am very curious about it.

  • Saii #240 4 years ago

    Top review, nice and balanced.
    It sounds like the game is pretty much what I was expecting. It's not too different from Halo 2, but that in itself could be a complement :)

  • PearOfAnguish #241 4 years ago

    "the PC version will be reeled out in all its higher defination glory."

    Because they did such a sterling job on the PC version of Halo 2.

  • DocTep #242 4 years ago

    Great review Rob, detailing as much as possible without dropping any spoilers at all. I have to admit that the text did come across at points as if it was leading towards a 9, but I appreciate that you were trying to keep the review as balanced as possible in the face of a huge amount of hype and the crazies (both pro and anti Halo). I'll never understand why some people insist upon having some sort of unobtainable mark, and if the fun outweighs any negatives by enough, then a 10 is well earned.

    There is an argument for dropping scores so that people put more emphasis upon the content of a review than a number at the end - this review being a good example of why - but I know companies will always want that opportunity to quote a high score on their marketing or game boxes, and generally people have a tendency towards laziness. My personal thoughts are that an out-of-5 mark (stars, like movie reviews often use?) strikes the best balance between an 'at-a-glance' round-up, and encouraging people to read the actual text. Perhaps with some sort of 'award' for the marketing departments to print on their boxes to keep them happy.

    Anyway, great review as I said. Pity about many of the fanboy morons cluttering up the thread with pointless put downs towards fellow members and whichever console they happen to have taken some misguided crusade against (yes, George Roper and MrsPacMan, I am definitely looking in your directions ...and laughing - not with you, but at you).

  • polar #243 4 years ago

    I'd also like to read about the 4 player co-op. Any chance of amending the review once the co-op is run through its paces over at EG towers?

  • FladgeMangle #244 4 years ago

    Ah yes.

    10/10 = It's as good as you hoped it would be. It will not disappoint you. It will give you the gaming experience you want, without compromise or glitches you care enough about to notice.

    Oh course, to some it'll be utter guff and therfore bafflement, maybe even rage, will ensue. Fuck 'em. Enjoy your thing.

    PS Glad this thread didn't get hijacked by trolls. I'm personally not a Halo fan but I'm very happy for those of you who are.

  • siro #245 4 years ago

    I so hoped we get another "better than halo"-theme? At least I know I would think this game is crap. Single player Halo 2 = 4/10 (at max).

  • The-Bodybuilder #246 4 years ago

    >"but 10/10 doesn't sit right with me"

    Yes, because we ALL CARE what you think.

  • dllord #247 4 years ago

    Roll on wednesday!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ace_McCloud #248 4 years ago

    Re: 4 player co-op.

    Just read the 1up review which says online 4 player co-op suffers from really bad lag at times:( However, I also discovered from gamespot that 4 player co-op is possible on split screen as well so a small :) for that.... hopefully they can sort the lag out post release...

  • The-Bodybuilder #249 4 years ago

    >"I bet once Bungie need a bit of cash from the franchise "

    Need? Cash? HALO?

    LOL.

  • Sucram #250 4 years ago

    Why, oh why am I stuck in a jungle with a laptop rather than in some civilized nation where these XBox 360 things can be bought?

    Might have to grab a gun an RL roleplay Sierra 117 to satisfy my Halo urges.

    If I accidentally kill anyone in the process it's the fault of video games.

  • p00ntang #251 4 years ago

    FIRST! OOps

  • logos01 #252 4 years ago

    Nice review, it's basically similar to other reviews I read. The game is better than the first two and while it doesn't reinvent the series, it does what it's supposed to do extremely well. I'll be getting it, it seems to be worth it.

  • sheldipez #253 4 years ago

    I've been playing this the last two days and it aint bad. The single player is deffo a case of if it aint broken dont fix it - i have had a few feelings of deja vu playing it -not gonna mentioned any spoilers but there is a few set pieces that have been done in halo2 and the GFX is very halo 2.5 as mentioned in the review -

    as a long time fan of the series i cant argue with the comments in the review but 10 ? hmmm...

  • projectmayhem #254 4 years ago

    @Latin:

    "Serious" was probably too strong a word, however not addressing the degradation of game quality that was o-so apparent in the first and second installments is something I would have liked to see eliminated from the third (and final, in this story arc anyway) chapter.

    It wasn't addressed according to the review itself... also as I mentioned, for it to look "good" rather then stunning is a bit of a downer. I knew what it looked like from videos, but was hoping it was better in-person a-la Call of Duty 4. For the flagship title for Microsoft, that's slightly disappointing given what Killzone and the like are up to over on "the other side of the fence".

    I'm not saying it's a bad game by any stretch. I'll lap it up like the next fan, but the fact that issues with story and content haven't been fixed after three iterations of the game can get you the coveted "perfect" score annoys me.

  • ShiroBen #255 4 years ago

    I don't really like this kind of game very much. However, when a game gets a 10 it means, to me, "Even people who don't like this kind of game will like THIS game". It means that the game surpasses its genre to become something more than what it is. This ... this doesn't seem like that kind of game, judging by the review.

    Fortunately my "halve all Xbox 360 scores because of the unbelievably awful build quality of the consoles" rule turns it into a 5. Crisis averted! (Otherwise it could be considered as good as Slitherlink, which is just laughable.)

  • ersinet #256 4 years ago

    just played it in splitscreen with a friend on a huge screen. never was a "fanboy" of anything. but this game is simply pure fun. only a good f... is better. 9/10 for me
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 01:29

  • spookyzombie #257 4 years ago

    A question to those who have played it:

    If I thought the first two games were 8/10's, am I likely to think Halo 3 is a similar score?

  • Lov3 #258 4 years ago

    Page 1: It's quite like halo 2
    Page 2: Doesn't look as nice as last years GoW
    Page 3: Level design starts off well but ends up a bit dodgy, like the last two games
    Page 4: 10/10! Mediocre sequel of the decade!

    Sorry, but it doesn't read like a 10/10 at all. Whats the problem, you guys afraid of the community lashback?

  • Syrette #259 4 years ago

    Take that Sony fanboys!

    ;)

  • quantumsheep #260 4 years ago

    Very much looking forward to this now - more so than I was before I read this and several other reviews dotted around the 'net =)

    Oh, and is MrsPacman Bundy? Did I miss a memo or something?

  • tnomad #261 4 years ago

    I find the 10/10 is perfect discussion really interesting. Because those of you who think 10 should never be awarded because that is perfection, what does that make 9? I mean you're talking nine tenths of the absolute perfect game, what game is even that good.

    If 10/10 represented perfection, rather than a top game in it's field, all the very top games at the moment would be down at 7 at best, because even the best games have flaws.

    Game scores are basically rubbish and you all know it. Yet loads of you skip through the review and read that first. Mentalists the lot of you! ^_^

  • Drakron #262 4 years ago

    10/10 means there are no faults the reviewer can find.

    Now read the review of Halo 3 and you will spot were it says the later levels are not in the same quality of the first ones, that alone would tilt the game to a 9/10 and you will find more complains (face textures being from Halo 2, etc ...).

    Getting a 10/10 is not the issue, the issue is the review says "well its almost without flaws and here is the list of issues I have with the game" and then lands a 10/10 ... THAT is what a lot of people have a issue with.

    Also PS3 fanboys do not be so happy, despite being flawed Halo 3 is released and none of your "great games" have yet to be released ... at least Xbox 360 have AAA games as the PS3 have a list of AAA games that may or may not be good (I ALWAYS get a kick of seeing Killzone 2 in those list, like I forgotten the "Halo Killer" PS2 Killzone).

  • Mudo #263 4 years ago

    There are not enough funny British pop culture references in this review.
    They are the best things about EG reviews normally. :(

  • Khanivor #264 4 years ago

    Fucking idiots and your fucking idiotic whining about what constitutes a ten. Fuck off back to your mother's womb as it appears you were hatched before your brain had a chance to grow. Fucking bams.

  • smoothn00dle #265 4 years ago

    bad graphic. 10/10.. Bioshock 10/10... 360 games 10/10.. super hype

  • Calgon #266 4 years ago

    Good review, pleasantly surprised with how highly this is getting rated too accross the board, thats all there is to it 360 is where its all happening for the best games this year from exclusive to multiplatform(and likely the best versions by current trends).

    Another 10 for a 360 game, with PGR4(which I think might be another one to get that mark) and Mass Effect(not sure about it, admittedly I havent been following the progress closely, hope its another gem though) still to come, its great to see so many games live up to expectations(infact I dont think theres been a major disappointment of any of the games Ive been anticipating since last years E3). I dont see why anyone should be complaining too much about next gen now... on 360 atleast :) plenty of great games around, thats enough for me as truely innovating/groundbreaking games by their nature are very rare indeed and not always great. It almost seems like its an excuse to discredit these days, what are they really expecting to see that hasnt been done before on a smaller scale/lesser hardware? an example "groundbreaking AI? pah AI was in space invaders and it was more impressive cos I say so".

    Its a great game which deserves the attention in their eyes(its a must have for them this year hence the 10), get over it! even if you disagree(if you play it probably shaking your head at the title screen to convince yourself of something before youve even gave it a fair chance and played it) even though most haters had no intention of playing it at all anyway.

    The haters(namely a mixture of Nintendo/Metroid fanboys, Playstation erm Killz...*nah surely not* -just Sony fanboys and Half-Life PC fanboys) are as predictable as ever... but before we complain its all ok because its only trolling if you're saying Halo(or any critically acclaimed title seen as important to the Devilbox360 by teh M$ who are evil, anyone else notice that pattern?) is better than *insert videogame here*(btw did you know? - owning a 360 or borrowing the more likely scenario isnt a liscense to troll!). Haters need to be heard, its important because they know better and need to tell you what you should be playing instead... if you disagree or maybe criticise their preference - prepare for a tantrum!.

    So yeah it never really works on anyone, if they are interested in the game you can hate all you like, shout overrated as many times as you like. They will probably buy it and not even read your posts and probably enjoy it too, everyone wins... cept you trolls. ;)

  • Nillsens #267 4 years ago

    In all honesty I wouldn't have rated Bioshock anything above an 8. I enjoyed it thouroughly but it just didn't take me to that pure gaming zen that some games have done in the past.

    I wouldn't rate Halo 1/2 above an 8 either but I really want to believe that this one will make me grin and think 9 to myself.

    Review certainly didn't read like a 10, I was quite suprised to see that when I was finished. I'm scared shitless about the last level now though.

    All things considered, this wednesday I'm picking up my legendary edition and going right into the campaign with two friends. I'm looking forward to the replay function so much that I would rather stop after the first level and watch it instead of playing through it in one go.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 04:23

  • Calgon #268 4 years ago

    I wouldn't rate Halo 1/2 above an 8 either but I really want to believe that this one will make me grin and think 9 to myself.

    Sorry to pick on you but... do you really do that ever? :D lol "this ok, errmm.... 7 no go on then... 8 :D"

    I just know when a game is engaging, fun ect and compare to what Ive played before like "this is great, more fun than Half Life 2 even although alot different" or something like that... even then I try not to do that(after the first impressions early on) because I want to like every game I buy, Im not made of money and cant afford to buy consoles and games I didnt really rate from the get go.
    Edited by 2 at 24/09/07 @ 04:36

  • vpin #269 4 years ago

    8/10 GOW/ wtf??!! You anti m$ eg cuntaroos!! how much did $ony pay you this month?!

    10/10 HALO 3/ HOLY SHIT! You EG shitheads must be M$ fanboys who have no shame!

    ;)

  • Clive_Dunn #270 4 years ago

    There does appear to be a trend at the moment towards big releases getting big scores, then us playing the game and collectively ending up slightly disappointed.

    I guess either my expectations are too high or some of the scores have been 1 or 2 points too much.

    Bioshock certainly wasn't a 10/10 game for me, quite honestly it was a bit of a chore after the Sander Cohen level. The earlier "I wouldn't have reviewed it that highly" disclaimer doesn't really cut the mustard as an explanation for me in all honesty. Perhaps for the big games in might be worth a 2nd reviewer auditing the score ?

    I guess I'm just a little sceptical at the moment, this review did read like an 8 or 9 and I got burnt with EG's Halo 2 review.

  • sweetcheeks #271 4 years ago

    famitsu gave it 9/9/910.

    so not quite up to that nintendogs gold standard of gaming.

    EDIT - twats
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 06:09

  • snick #272 4 years ago

    Presumably a Eurogamer 10/10 means its anywhere between 91% and 100% on a percentage based review system, so rather than people jumping to conclusions about it being the perfect game that can't be bettered maybe you should (a) read the (very well written) review and (b) play the game to decide where you think it comes within that range.

    It is a nice shot in the arm on the gamerankings board tho for Halo.

  • Kryon #273 4 years ago

    "B,but...But..Teh PAwa oF TEh CELL!!!!one11!!"

    SDF, I feast on the sweet milk of your tears! Muahahahaaa....

  • Talha #274 4 years ago

    Whoa - this was unexpected. For a game that doesn't astound at any single thing, but delivers a smooth, well-rounded package that is excellent but not outstanding at everything it does, a 10 is unexpected from EG.

    Anyway, good going - thanks for recognizing the potential of plain old FUN versus the existential deliberations that every other shooter these days feels obligated to provide.

  • Fab4 #275 4 years ago

    I hope its a brilliant game...it will help keep the kiddies/glitchers off the other decent FPSs.

  • Dirtie #276 4 years ago

    Sorry if this is already posted, but for those complaining that 10s should be reserved for perfect games:
    [link url=http://ww w.eurogamer.net/scoring_policy.php
    ]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/scoring_policy....[/link]

    "Let us make absolutely clear that a 10 is not and probably never will be "the perfect game". There's always something criticisable about a game, however small."

  • JavaJawaUK #277 4 years ago

    10/10.

    END OF

    If you can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen!

  • Strac #278 4 years ago

    to comment on some of the comments: to me BioShock actually is an absolute 10/10. but then again I greatly enjoy the atmosphere and story, even if the gameplay isn't that "advanced"
    I don't really see the problem here, it looks like the majority of reviews (97% atm) disagrees with the angry people here who just have their own particular/peculiar tastes and preferences. that goes for BioShock & Halo 3 I might add

  • #279 4 years ago

    How do I delete my Eurogamer account?

  • Veracity #280 4 years ago

    DDevil wrote:
    > Better than Space Giraffe
    In a world with justice, this would indeed be the new better than Halo. Tagline really shoulda been better than halo, tho'.

    Trousers full of wasps are far too kind for the ubiquitous score-bitching tard procession. You want cybernetic wasps like the things in City of Lost Children, modified to inject, oh, I dunno, something really painful. Malignant tumour cells would be a start. Since there's no realistic hope of convincing EG to drop scores altogether, how about at least a 1-5 scale with no half points? The old 1-10 scores could be fairly trivially converted with a blanket ruling on whether to round up or down, or just by allowing .5s on pre-overhaul scores. Still wouldn't be as satisfactory as just ditching them so people have to read and respond to the actual words or piss off, imo. You'd think reviewers, of all people, would be most sympathetic to the idea, for obvious reasons, but the reasons the editorial overlords would never consider it are equally plain.

    Solid review, anyway. Probably best summed up by the concluding 'it's a game about shooting aliens'. Not much for me there - what occasional interest I can muster in FPS is limited to the quasi-intellectual Looking Glass descended cul-de-sac these days - but it sounds like a game that sets its sights on doing one thing really well and nails it. I enjoyed most of God Hand, a game about punching people, so there's certainly potential merit in that. Bungie-itis falling off towards later levels does seem a little vexing, but maybe we just have to assume by now that's an endemic problem in the way the studio works. I'd actually call less than best-on-platform visuals a plus point, if they're the price to be paid for performance without glitches, but I'm probably in a minority on that.
    Edited by 2 at 24/09/07 @ 07:35

  • mkreku #281 4 years ago

    And I'm even more hyped about Mass Effect.. what's that going to get then? 11?!

  • smoothpete #282 4 years ago

    Nice. I disagree about the later levels, I found them more exciting than the first ones but that's just, like, my opinion and stuff, man

    I've only had the chance to mess about with Forge by myself, but goddamn, it's got so much potential. Utterly amazingly brilliant

  • space_ace #283 4 years ago

    Let's cut the crap

    Page 1 of 4.

    eh?

  • Daikon #284 4 years ago

    Cool. Now if only 65nm version X360s would become available I might even consider buying one.
    Been holding off all this time due to the high failure rates reported.

  • Segnit #285 4 years ago

    Finally something to tear me away from GTR2. After the disappointment that was Halo 2... I'm not waiting for much to be honest despite the rave reviews. We've been through this hype campaign before. I'm just expecting to pass my time.

  • Monkey-Wizard-Ken #286 4 years ago

    good lordy :)

  • Sir_TimAlot #287 4 years ago

    They should have given it 11/10, that would have been far more interesting and would probably be twice as many comedy comments posted.

  • dk_rare #288 4 years ago

    It is a shame that Master Chief had to die in this one, looks like there wont be any more Halo games like these to come :(

  • Yossarian #289 4 years ago

    I am enjoying this thread.

  • JohnnyWashnGo #290 4 years ago

    Well, a top 10/10 for Halo3 is a great achievement.

    Regardless of which console you support/own/wish to play on, you should be congratulating everyone involved in making a cracking piece of entertainment software. It is never an easy job to make a good game and when people do, they should be praised for doing so.

    Well done Bungie, Halo3 is getting near universal praise and deserve a lot of credit.

    However, for me personally, first person shooters are anything but interesting so I will be passing on this game. The only FPS I am going to be playing in the near future is metroid on the wii, simply because I played the first 2 and I want to complete the story.

  • BartonFink #291 4 years ago

    Yup some of it is pure comedy gold.

  • Monkey-Wizard-Ken #292 4 years ago

    The poor broken PS3

  • Yossarian #293 4 years ago

    Some people are really quite upset about this.

  • ExitGhost #294 4 years ago

    The Halo 3 hate is strong on Eurogamer, shame most of the haters haven't even played the game yet, or have never had any intention of buying the game.

    I think it's a mixture of bitter PS3 owners, still waiting for something like Halo to make their system relevant this generation, hold on chaps only two more years until FFXIII

    PC owners who for some strange reason feel the need to pick a fight with 360 at every turn, stalking it's every move, fearing for their lives that a 360 owner may actually have a game that does something better than a PC game.

    And Nintendo fans who are so gay the very thought of playing a FPS makes their pink thong tighten to excruciating levels of pain. Only a extended play of Tinkles balloon fight can loosen it to comfortable levels before they remember they're playing Tinkles balloon fight and get a raging hard on.

    Well done chaps you've all outdone yourselves this year
    Edited by 3 at 24/09/07 @ 08:48

  • lennon #295 4 years ago

    Holy crap. I had heard from naysayers that had played it that it was very good but I wasnt expecting a 10!

  • kapowaz #296 4 years ago

    Slightly confused that the game gets a 10/10 regardless of the concerns raised in the review. If you read it first, you're expecting it to drop a point. I'm reminded of that issue of Edge where they didn't give games scores, and instead required you to rely on the text of the review. If I'd gone by that, I'd have expected an implied 8 or 9.

    Still, for many people the score was irrelevent. I had my copy on pre-order many months ago, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

  • Sebo #297 4 years ago

    I'm embarrassed to be a gamer reading this thread.

    How sad to watch people get so emotional and annoyed at a number which represents one person's opinion of a game.

    Nice review rob, has got me excited for playing the game this weekend.

    Just sad that the vast majority who have posted after it have sucked me dry of my enthusiasm for life.

  • neosalad #298 4 years ago

    Nice 4 page review.
    cant wait for mine to arrive...

    just tryign to complete Halo 2 before it does. not to far off now..
    I had never got round to actually "completing" halo 2.... terrible eh..

  • FilipGp #299 4 years ago

    I was thinking that Halo 3 would not be such a great game, but after reading this review, it is clearley that is masterpiece. I can't wait to grab my copy of game in next few days. Perfect end for perfect game.

  • jiveguy #300 4 years ago

    I had quite a lengthy post written in notepad wondering if a lot of the people who don't like Halo or "don't get it" (come on, its an fps, you shoot at shit until it dies, what's do hard to get?) had only played the PC ports of the games. But I scrapped it after reading through more of the comments and realised that people are idiots.

    10/10 seems right going by the review.

    Also, I'm looking forward to playing this in work on Tuesday as part of the launch events. Free beer and Halo MP :D
    Edited by 2 at 24/09/07 @ 09:14

  • lambtron #301 4 years ago

    "How do I delete my Eurogamer account?"

    haha. Is it really so upsetting to see a game on a rival console getting a perfect score? Sweet lord - thank god I am not that sad.

  • spekkeh #302 4 years ago

    I'm sort of nonplussed though. I always thought Eurogamer reserved tens for original content. I can recall other games that were considered worthy of a ten, but then didn't get it because it was an iteration in a series and didn't do anything particularly new. Halo 3 now is, well, combat evolved (sorry): very good at what it does, but not terribly innovative. I'm not saying Halo 3 isn't worthy of a ten (it's all a matter of opinion anyway), it's just something that strikes me as odd.

    Thing is, and I really, really don't want to be fanboyish about this, but it's something that has me worried... It's no secret that large publishers can be pricks (or very generous) when it comes to the scores of their games. A certain large games website beginning with an I has been known to give a number of games a special treatment. Normal games would get a max of three pages review, but then they'd have a review of a hyped game, a week in advance of the other large sites, and spend eight pages of incredibly good advertisement, ending in a 9.5ish.

    "Back in the ole' days" I just waited for Eurogamer to tag along (mostly three weeks after the game was out in the shops) and viciously deconstruct the entire hype, giving the game the score it really deserved. Now that Eurogamer is one of the first to come with the review, giving it a perfectly hyped up score.. well, I just hope it's genuine.

  • pinhead #303 4 years ago

    /Looks forward to midnight launch and co-op finally included in the main story thread.

    Who needs blue-ray ;-)

  • DjFlex52 #304 4 years ago

    "B,but...But..Teh PAwa oF TEh CELL!!!!one11!!"

    SDF, I feast on the sweet milk of your tears! Muahahahaaa....

    @kryon and on and on

    /...yawn.../

    SDF is a hoax that's not created by sony fanboys but created by 360 & wii fanboys like you, kwyon ;)

  • Eighthours #305 4 years ago

    @Eighthours:

    it's the fact that the TEXT critiqued some serious flaws in the game that should have been addressed since halo and halo2, then went on to give it the "perfect" score that's the problem...

    At the end, Rob described the issues he had as "minor flaws".

    He's absolutely right. Many, many things that were wrong with Halos 1 and 2 have been addressed, and the game is so comprehensive that it would feel churlish to mark it down for having a few little negative quirks.

    What's the point of having a scoring system out of 10 if you can't use the 10? NO game will ever be perfect, after all.

  • thedaveeyres #306 4 years ago

    Excellent read. Well done Rob.

  • Exones #307 4 years ago

    Have you seen the screenshots with Master Chief?
    If you look carefully you'll notice a big shadow on his Face.
    CRYSIS is causing that shadow because it has put all the games in the shadow and believe me, they'll stay in the shadow for many years to come....lol The only thing you can do is just to accept it....HahaHa and i'm not joking.

    I work in the games industry for a few years now and experience has taught me a big lesson:
    " When ever you see companies that spend millions for marketing, promotions, pressing/paying Sites and mags to give it 10/10, and such a global advertisement of such a level with Helmet Box, free stuff, opening music Events in London and America the day of release with Justin Timberlake, Brightney Spears and the alike.... THEN you just know one thing......." CRAP!!! The marketing guys worked more than the artists and programmers together...HAHAHA

    The game looks so out of date, at least graphically and they know they have a last shot and they do everything possible to sell and sell and sell before they kill Master Chief for good.

    The game will be a normal fun (simple graphics) multiplayer game with some good moments in there yeah fair enough...If you see the screenshots, they backup what i say.
    They've used one tiled texture for most of the rocks and terrain and concrete. Yeah, very very Next Gen.
    Come one people, wake up and smell the coffee. You've been brainwashed again.
    Just throw your Xbox out of the window and get a descent PC so you can experience graphics and technology of our time.
    Don't you see, they sold you an "old PC in a Plastic Box=Xbox360" and they charge you so much for the games too.........That is so "Taking advantage of the Brainwashed".....lol

    Have a nice day..

    PS: I think EUROGAMER has become a disgrace really and they have stubbed their reputation. Yeah the 10/10 has lost it's value and meaning.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 10:19

  • Razz #308 4 years ago

    :o

    /goes back to playing Halo 3

  • paisleyjacket #309 4 years ago

    I have input all the positive/negative comments of this review into my game scoring algorithmograph and this is actually a 9.434556774/10.

    Shame on you for misleading the public, Eurogamer.

    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 09:39

  • Sebo #310 4 years ago

    Might want to check up the meanins og descent and descrace mate.

    I'd love to know what PC gamers are playing that is so great. When I look for games for the PC all I see is crap!!

  • Genji #311 4 years ago

    "I'd love to know what PC gamers are playing that is so great. When I look for games for the PC all I see is crap!!"

    Civ4!

  • slave23d #312 4 years ago

    holyyy crap, not 8/10 then...


    sheesh, might have to re-evaluate whether i buy this

  • Lionheart #313 4 years ago

    What's Halo?

  • Rirekon #314 4 years ago

    10/10, oh please.

  • Xerx3s #315 4 years ago

    Crofto: What a load of rubbish. First of all, bungie commented on the team development: 80% of the team was working on SP. Going by the comments from the people who played it, it has shown the fruit of their labour.

    As for the reviews: Bungie started giving reviewers time to review the game in august already. They have had more than a month to 'sit down and take the time'.

  • Xerx3s #316 4 years ago

    dk_rare: Yeah thx for posting spoilers in this section. Edit and remove please.

  • UncleLou #317 4 years ago

    @headbog: You conveniently forgot the gloating 360 teenage fanboy crowd, which is more present than any of the other groups you mentioned.

    I'd love to know what PC gamers are playing that is so great. When I look for games for the PC all I see is crap!!

    And you call yourself a gamer? Oh dear.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 09:48

  • AcidSnake #318 4 years ago

    Ok...Nice score, and the first time I'm considering getting this...

    I haven't read all the comments, but could someone please answer this:
    Is it necessary to have played the first 2 to enjoy this?
    Or can I get by with just the third?

  • Xerx3s #319 4 years ago

    Civ4!

    Fantastic game indeed. But also coming to consoles (although, I have my reservations about the controls).;)

  • Xerx3s #320 4 years ago

    Is it necessary to have played the first 2 to enjoy this?
    Or can I get by with just the third?

    I don't think so but there is an article on IGN that explains everything if you haven't.

    EDIT: <a href='http: //games.ign.com/articles/821/821618p1.html'>here</ a>.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 09:53

  • Lebowski #321 4 years ago

    I'm a third of the way through Single Player and it's much better than all of Halo 2 combined.

    As for the multiplayer - look up 'fun' in the dictionary and there's a picture of Halo 3 next to it. The video playback & record is amazing and players' uploading of different games and maps (much easier to use and navigate than Halo 2) means that the game is evolving hour on hour.

  • AcidSnake #322 4 years ago

    Thanks...
    Although finishing the game without previous knowledge seems easy I'd rather know who I was killing and why...
    And then I'll have to get used to being creamed in online matches until I get my bearings...

  • Genji #323 4 years ago

    "As for the multiplayer - look up 'fun' in the dictionary and there's a picture of Halo 3 next to it."

    They should put that quote on the box!

  • Yossarian #324 4 years ago

    @jiveguy

    Also, I'm looking forward to playing this in work on Tuesday as part of the launch events. Free beer and Halo MP :D

    Do you work for MS now? Bias total.

  • Dizzy #325 4 years ago

    "And then I'll have to get used to being creamed in online matches until I get my bearings... "

    The skill system will sort that out for you... you won't encounter uber Halo players if you start playing online in a few weeks time. Ofc if you play this week, prepare to get owned ;)

    /loads shotgun

  • AcidSnake #326 4 years ago

    @Dizzy:
    What's your gamertag?
    That way I can avoid you...(and shoot you in the back)...
    :)

  • thinred #327 4 years ago

    How can a review that includes this statement:

    "It's not that the game is ugly - well, aside from the human faces perhaps, which look flat and unnatural and are the most obvious relics of the last generation here...It's just that, compared to games like last year's Gears of War, Halo 3 is an underachiever in graphical terms - but to our minds, any negative here is easily cancelled out by the joy of high framerates, no loading delays and an almost complete lack of any graphical glitches. It may not be gold, but it's the most perfectly polished silver we've seen."

    EVER turn into a 10 score???? It's ridiculous, and clearly shows the game has been reviewed through the eyes of a fanboy.

    You definitely lost some stock with me on this one, Eurogamer...

  • Eighthours #328 4 years ago

    Also, in regards to some reviews, I think it's fair to say 95% of all reviews at this point are invalid, simply because the people writing them were more aiming for the 'get the review up by [insert agreed date/time here]' rather than actually sitting down and playing the game properly (like Eurogamer usually would).

    Basically, the reviews of Halo 3 are based on novelty alone, and I wouldn't take any of them very seriously

    Well, Crofto, I'm happy to count my own review among the 5% you describe, as it's based on many, many hours played of the full retail copy at my own house! Believe me, the Gold Medal we gave on PSO is well deserved.

    I also know that Rob spent more than enough time with the game to deliver a comprehensive verdict - which he's done very well.

    I have a small amount of agreement with you about some of the other reviews I've seen, mind, which contain some baffling inaccuracies. IGN UK's review is particularly guilty of this.
    Edited by 2 at 24/09/07 @ 10:21

  • Dizzy #329 4 years ago

    "EVER turn into a 10 score???? It's ridiculous, and clearly shows the game has been reviewed through the eyes of a fanboy. "

    Oh man.. the crying is making me feel all warm inside. We can all bathe in fanboy tears!

  • bluem4gic #330 4 years ago

    I was one of the lucky few to finish the game over the weekend. I enjoyed the game throughly. However I don't agree with Rob Fahrey's review score of 10/10. Halo 3 is not combat evolved more like combat refined at the end of the day so there is no reason for the game to score 10/10. It has not brought anything new to FPS genre and it is not pushing it forward in any way. The game deserves a solid 8 or 9 out of 10.

    It seems that eurogamer's reviews are losing thier mind these days with these easy 10/10 reviews that they keep giving out (Bioshock is System Shock 2). I just hope they realise that when they are saying that a game is 10/10 they are saying its perfect and completely flawless

    Rob you need to review your reviewing style because anyone who has been playing FPS games for a long time will play Halo 3 and enjoy it throughly, however they will comment on how it is far from perfect.

  • Eighthours #331 4 years ago

    It's ridiculous, and clearly shows the game has been reviewed through the eyes of a fanboy.

    I'm sure that many of us are LOL'ing inwardly at the very notion of Rob being described as an MS fanboy! :) :) :)

    It has not brought anything new to FPS genre and it is not pushing it forward in any way.

    Theater mode? Forge mode? No? Really? Wrong.

    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 10:23

  • symmetry #332 4 years ago

    Roll on Wednesday, cos I've got the day off!!

    \o/

    Maybe I'll give Halo2 another play-through first, cos I can't remember the ending :|

  • Xerx3s #333 4 years ago

    AcidSnake: One tip, if you go online, do so only with EG regulars. A pleasant, American screamer kid free experience is basically guaranteed.

  • bluebird #334 4 years ago

    @shinji: how high would you rate this game for someone who is only interested in playing the campaign? (no xbox gold)

  • Xerx3s #335 4 years ago

    EVER turn into a 10 score???? It's ridiculous, and clearly shows the game has been reviewed through the eyes of a fanboy.

    LOL. People accuse him of being an utter sony fanboy that writes for treespeech and here comes someone who claims that he is exactly the opposite.

    Life as a reviewer must be tough. :(

  • Dizzy #336 4 years ago

    "It has not brought anything new to FPS genre and it is not pushing it forward in any way. The game deserves a solid 8 or 9 out of 10. "

    Yea unlike the other FPS games at the moment like... er....

    Face it dude... FPS is about shooting stuff in the face and super good online modes. Games that "bring anything new to the genre" only appear every 5 years or so.

    This review says that shooting aliens in the face is perfect fun on a console. Nothing more, nothing less. You can whine all you want...

  • andromeda #337 4 years ago

    better review

    [link url=http://www.destructoid.com/destructoid-revie w-halo-3-46214.phtml#ext
    ]http://ww w.destructoid.com/destructoid-r...[/link]

  • Xerx3s #338 4 years ago

    This thread is great, so far I've already added 20 something idiots to my ever growing ignore list.

  • Yossarian #339 4 years ago

    A pleasant, American screamer kid free experience is basically guaranteed.

    But what about BGie??

  • Garulon #340 4 years ago

    First \o/

  • thinred #341 4 years ago

    Bloodkult:

    "How about you read the rest of your own quote?

    "but to our minds, any negative here is easily cancelled out by the joy of high framerates, no loading delays and an almost complete lack of any graphical glitches."

    Back to your cave!"

    The way I see it, it's the reviewer (and you, obviously) who should think twice. So a game with 8/10 graphics at best, deserves 10/10 just because of short loading times, high framerates and no glitches. That's poor reasoning in my book, but hey, hype is free

  • bluem4gic #342 4 years ago

    @Dizzy

    "Yea unlike the other FPS games at the moment like... er.... "

    You are obiviously blinded by the pink mist. At the end of the day it is about fun however it does not deserve 10 out of 10. Halo 3 does it extermely well however quite frankly there are better shooters out there.

    Call of Duty 4 is shocking Halo fanboys everywhere with how good it is. So in future please complete a game first before commenting on it.

  • Yossarian #343 4 years ago

    I'm sure that many of us are LOL'ing inwardly at the very notion of Rob being described as an MS fanboy! :) :) :)

    The fact that it's Shinji of all people giving this a 10 really hammers home that it must be something quite special.

  • AcidSnake #344 4 years ago

    @Xerx3s:
    Yeah, I don't really need kids mowing me down and being fuckers about it...
    I'll add some of you guys when I get the game...

    I used to be unbeatable in Perfect Dark back on the 64...I'm afraid I'll be annihilated here though...
    Hope the controls are similar...(aiming with left stick, walking with right stick)...

  • Yossarian #345 4 years ago

    Call of Duty 4 is shocking Halo fanboys everywhere with how good it is.

    No, it really, really isn't.

  • Cheapshot #346 4 years ago

    I'm so disappointed this didn't get an 8, it would have been the most hilarious thing ever. :D

  • Eighthours #347 4 years ago

    @shinji: how high would you rate this game for someone who is only interested in playing the campaign? (no xbox gold)

    Before Rob chimes in, I'd personally say a high 9... although I think it's almost an unfair question.

    You're missing out on so much if you don't have Live Gold here. You really should get it, as even if you don't ordinarily like online gaming there's so much you can do with Halo 3.

  • Eighthours #348 4 years ago

    About Call of Duty 4 multiplayer, it's absolutely brilliant. But Halo 3 has raised the bar to a ridiculous level.

  • dom6918 #349 4 years ago

    just to add to the PS3 vs Xbox360 debate

    Heavenly Sword 7/10 Vs Halo 3 10/10
    Warhwark 8/10 Vs Bioshock 10/10
    Resistance 7/10 Vs Gears of War 8/10
    Motorstorm 8/10 Vs Forza 2 9/10

    Thats PS3 exclusives Vs Xbox 360 exclusives...need i say more?

  • Shinji #350 4 years ago

    @shinji: how high would you rate this game for someone who is only interested in playing the campaign? (no xbox gold)

    Hm - the campaign in it is by far the strongest of the games so far, so it's still better than its predecessors even ignoring the online component. A nine for the campaign alone, definitely - not a ten though, on the basis that it lacks variety at points and is somewhat inconsistent in the later levels.

    Considering the package as a whole, the superb multiplayer more than makes up for that, but I totally understand that a lot of people probably won't play much MP.

  • Dizzy #351 4 years ago

    "Call of Duty 4 is shocking Halo fanboys everywhere with how good it is. So in future please complete a game first before commenting on it. "

    Oh wait.. what new stuff does CoD bring the the FPS genre? ;) I can't be a 10 if it brings nothing new.

    I think you didn't read my post. I said if a game is 10/10 fun who cares about "new amazing features".

    I love CoD... and I hope it will get a 10 as well, but it is not like Halo 3 in multiplayer. It is great for different reasons.

  • thinred #352 4 years ago

    So Rob used to be accused of being a Sony fanboy??? So what? There have been more unvelievable conversions in history :o)))

    That, or he's surrendered to hype.

    OR, he has problem making the comments he writes agreeing with the overall score. Whatever you guys say, the review DOES NOT add up to a 10/10 score.

  • bluem4gic #353 4 years ago

    So many comments by people who have not played or completed the game.

    Hype is a killer when you raise your expectations so high!

    Wait till you play the game before you comment on it and don't be blinded or influnenced by a franchise.



  • mattigan #354 4 years ago

    Dunno if anyone's mentioned it already, but isn't ripping the gun off of gun emplacements and running around in third person all a bit "Lost Planet" has the imitator become the imitated?

  • Xerx3s #355 4 years ago

    AcidSnake: Add me, DUFFKING, Messiac, idgaf, etc. to your list and you're bound to end up in a party with most regulars (from there onward it's a bit easier to add them). As for the skill, well most of us aren't that good (not bad either mind your). We play for fun, not for competition.

  • Batfink #356 4 years ago

    Hmmm. I'd love to pass comment here, but

    A. I haven't played the game yet

    and

    B. I had my purple incandescent rage glands removed when I was 7

    I enjoyed the other Halos, I'll enjoy this. And anyone who takes review scores seriously is a dick. That's right. A dick. Male sexual organ. Just like that.

  • bluem4gic #357 4 years ago

    @Dizzy

    I never stated COD4 is a better game and it is different, however I don't expect that game to get 10/10 either. All I am stating is there other FPS just as good or better and they are not perfect either. So you tell me why should Halo 3 get 10 out of 10?

    You be happy to know there are 12 maps in Halo 3 some are reharshes of Halo1/2. Frankly I believe all the maps from 1 and 2 should of been included on the game. To give you the player, that magic word "CHOICE". No doubt they will be included in some marketplace download sometime.

    However do you call that value for money £39.99/49.99 or even 69.99? No far from it.

  • Daymare #358 4 years ago

    A perfect thread for picking out people whos' comment you just don't wonna read ever again.

  • booner #359 4 years ago

    "Remarkably few vehicles to drive"

    hmmm, from memory/videos watched (haven't played the game yet!):

    Warthog (3 variations)
    Mongoose
    Scorpion
    Hornet
    Ghost
    Banshee
    Wraith
    Brute Chopper

    Plus a few new ones that I have seen too.. Thats actually not bad for a FPS..

  • Dixons #360 4 years ago

    Such a sad comments thread. Why are so many so-called gamers upset at the fact that a videogame scored highly? Surely we should all be popping the champers and looking forward to some high quality indulgence of our favourite hobby? Good grief.

  • Yossarian #361 4 years ago

    bluem4gic if you really want to take down Halo 3 there are easier routes than 'value for money'. The only package I can think of this year that trumps Halo 3 in that regard is The Orange Box.

  • thinred #362 4 years ago

    Bloodkult:

    "The way you see it means nothing to anyone though, does it now?
    10/10 - Suck on it and like it."

    Wow, that's a pretty solid argument if there ever was one. My apologies, sir, I didn't realize I was addressing a moron

  • Rusta #363 4 years ago

    love how a good review brings out the negative chavs, ie Exones, fuck me if he works in the games industry....

  • AcidSnake #364 4 years ago

    @Xerx3s:
    Thanks, I'm not sure when I'll get the game but I'll add you when I'm online eventually...

  • Eighthours #365 4 years ago

    So Rob used to be accused of being a Sony fanboy??? So what? There have been more unvelievable conversions in history :o)))

    I'm sure there must be someone on here who works for an airline and can confirm that Rob hasn't been on any flights to Damascus recently.

  • Yossarian #366 4 years ago

    Online Halo 3 and CoD4 attract very different crowds though. Halo is twitch gaming, sugared up folk who want to peg it around and pwn. Awesome fun and fast gratification.

    CoD4 is a slower paced fight, a bit more about tactics and, dare I say it, perhaps for the slightly more mature crowd. Both games will be taking up around the same amount of my time.

    I actually can't agree with this. It depends on the gametype, obviously, but I found CoD4 far more twitch-based, with a lot more kills/deaths per minute, and much shorter lifespans on the whole, than Halo 3. Both judged from beta, of course, but there it is. Your mileage may vary, but playing team-based games in Halo 3 with the right people felt far more tactical to me than anything I did in CoD4, which reminded me more than anything else of CS.

  • Salubrious_K #367 4 years ago

    I'm just looking forward to the Sony Defense Force review of "Halo 2.5":
    http://www.sonydefen seforce.com

  • bluebird #368 4 years ago

    Eighthours, Shinji, thanks for the reply :-)

  • The-Bodybuilder #369 4 years ago

    >"Wow, that's a pretty solid argument if there ever was one. My apologies, sir, I didn't realize I was addressing a moron "

    He's right though. You're entitled to your opinion and to say it, but nobody cares about it and don't expect anyone to.

  • miiiguel #370 4 years ago

    IMO, bashing Halo doesn't make other platforms look better or worse, so lighten up.

    If you take a honest approach, it's good for all gamers.

  • smoothpete #371 4 years ago

    Yea though I walk through the shadow of the valley of 'tards, I will fear no evil. Thy assault rifle and thy needler, they comfort me. Thou preparest a Forge level before me in the presence of mine enemies. Thou annointest my head with regenerating shields, my grenades runneth over.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 11:16

  • Eighthours #372 4 years ago

    I actually can't agree with this. It depends on the gametype, obviously, but I found CoD4 far more twitch-based, with a lot more kills/deaths per minute, and much shorter lifespans on the whole, than Halo 3. Both judged from beta, of course, but there it is. Your mileage may vary, but playing team-based games in Halo 3 with the right people felt far more tactical to me than anything I did in CoD4, which reminded me more than anything else of CS.

    One thing I haven't had the chance to try yet is one of the new matchmaking playlists, which is objective based but has an automatic loss for either team after 5 kills (there are respawns, but 5 kills is nothing). That's going to be super-tactical as you're going to have to stay alive and work as a team even more than you do on the standard objective modes.

  • Charroux #373 4 years ago

    @Egster

    Sony Defense Force is a piss-take, FFS.

  • ScottyXTUK #374 4 years ago

    Excellent, I loved the first two so this is the game for me, looks like I have another quality game to keep me busy through the long winter nights!!

  • robg #375 4 years ago

    I like PC FPSes and co-op Halo (completed 1 and 2 on Legendary with my housemate) so I don't really care either way, I'd like Halo 3 to be great if possible, cos then I get hours more co-op play.

    But I definitely read the review as an 8 or 9/10, except for the tiny paragraph at the end "explaining" why all the criticism on the previous 3 pages didn't matter, and a 10 at the bottom. Seemed a bit odd. Most of the "Halo haters" - as the Halo fanboys have been calling them - are simply pointing out this disparity, and don't seem to hate Halo at all. But then, if you're an extremist, then the middleground looks extreme to you...:)

  • miiiguel #376 4 years ago

    Sony Defense Force, what a pathetic little "thing", they don't talk about PS's they talk bout 360.

    It's ok to like Halo and MGS, it is. Don't let any suit tell you otherwise.

  • Scimarad #377 4 years ago

    Is there and options to just 'ignore all' ?

    Oh, I suppose I could just avoid clicking on the link...

  • BillyBrush #378 4 years ago

    Hmm...

    well i am looking forward to it a LOT, and i'm sure it will be great

    but Bioshock was no 10, not in a sane gamers book...so hopefully this will live up to it's hype much better. TBH after giving Bioshock a 10 it's probably hard to play Halo 3 and not give it as high a score, maybe EG set themselves up to have to award this the highest possible score...

  • smoothpete #379 4 years ago

    Re: CoD4 vs Halo 3 - to be honest I have a feeling I personally will enjoy CoD4 more, that's mainly down to my own preferences for semi-realistic modern day settings and weapons. That's not to say I didn't absolutely love Halo3, and will love the multiplayer I'm sure.

    I'll say this though - if you've been playing a lot of Halo 3 then go back to the CoD4 beta, for God's sake remember that the right bumper button is NOT for reloading... I wasn't too popular last night after repeatedly grenading myself and teammates in enclosed spaces. It's quite funny though as you hit what your brain thinks is reload, your player starts up the grenade throw animation (while you go "SHIT NOT AGAIN!";) the you have a fraction of a second to aim out of a window or aim up into the distance to avoid merking yourself :)

    Happy days!

  • Yossarian #380 4 years ago

    One thing I haven't had the chance to try yet is one of the new matchmaking playlists, which is objective based but has an automatic loss for either team after 5 kills (there are respawns, but 5 kills is nothing). That's going to be super-tactical as you're going to have to stay alive and work as a team even more than you do on the standard objective modes.

    This sounds great (albeit terrifying)! Free for all or team deathmatch in the CoD4 beta for me was 'spawn, find enemy, shoot, hopefully continue shooting until spree is achieved, die, respawn, repeat', at a far more hectic pace than Halo (it could just be I die more in CoD4 than Halo because I'm not as good at it, but there also seems to be far more kills on average in the former, and the kill-to-death ratios of even the best players I saw suggested that a great (and canny) player can't stay alive the way they can in Halo. I think it's because life in CoD4 is so short (like CS), and getting jumped or ambushed is effectively death, whereas in Halo running away/hiding/evading and returning fire are actually a lot more viable on the whole because of the shield system, quicker movement, and better weapon balance. I know for a fact I spend a lot more time moving around for position/collecting weapons or equipment/trying to outthink the enemy in the Halo beta than I ever did in CoD4's, but this could just be me.

  • TonyCocaCola #381 4 years ago

    They should make the review score go up to eleven or something. "So why not make 10 better and 10 be the top one?"...... "Ours go to eleven", etc.

    Looking forward to this, never been a massive fan of the halo series but i cant wait to see how it looks 'next gen'.

  • MrChuckles #382 4 years ago

    FPS on console - Check
    More annoying control system than a mouse & keyboard - Check
    Get a free copy - Check
    Taking it down game to trade in for something more fun - Check

    Sorry, i just don't get how anyone can play FPS's on a console, i have tried, god knows i have, but i end up feeling like a punch drunk fighter trying to stay on my feet after a particularly hard thump.

    Don't get me wrong, i love my 360, i'm not anti MS and i'm not anti FPS, i'm anti FPS on consoles....

  • The-Bodybuilder #383 4 years ago

    Good work smoothpete.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 11:42

  • joeking #384 4 years ago

    Here's what Shinji (the reviewer) just said in the forums:

    "Halo 3 is not a perfect game, but it is the pinnacle of a fantastic series and by far the best game within its own genre - which is balls-out, blockbuster-style FPS action. That, to my mind as a reviewer, is enough to justify a 10/10 - because the game simply doesn't have enough flaws or problems to justify dropping a full mark from its score.

    There are two kinds of tens which I've awarded as a reviewer; tens for games which are genuinely groundbreaking and innovative (Shadow of the Colossus, Half-Life 2) and tens for games which simply take existing game mechanics and build a stunningly polished experience out of them, which genuinely stands head and shoulders over other things in the genre. Halo 3 is in the latter camp."

    Take it or leave it, but that's the bottom line folks.

  • Yaster #385 4 years ago

    Thats a good score, I think this will make a worthwhile purchase

    Should fill the gap between now and Wipeout HD ;)

  • L42yB #386 4 years ago

    434th!!! :D

    Wow, this is going on forever...

  • miiiguel #387 4 years ago

    "Don't get me wrong, i love my 360, i'm not anti MS and i'm not anti FPS, i'm anti FPS on consoles.... "

    I just can't stand office-desk gaming...

    On the "bragging news": finaly managed to do the 1000GS @ Bioshock! Now for Blue Dragon, and the "Helmet" must be flying over England as we speak.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 11:44

  • Yaster #388 4 years ago

    @ Mr Chuckles
    "Sorry, i just don't get how anyone can play FPS's on a console, i have tried, god knows i have, but i end up feeling like a punch drunk fighter trying to stay on my feet after a particularly hard thump. "

    It just depends on what you're used to

    Playing FPS with a mouse just gives me cramp

  • Yossarian #389 4 years ago

    I can do both!

    *dances*

  • bioreit #390 4 years ago

    @ Xerx3s and AcidSnake

    If you guys want good ol' fun games (where it's more about the laughs and the pointing out each other's cool stuff than the spawn-camping to get uber-kill-scorez) feel free to add my gamertag (it's on the profile).

    Or not. It's up to you :-P

    But my clanmates are all in their 20s and 30s - most are married - and we just like to have FUN.

    You know, that thing that games should be all about...

  • GamesConnoisseur #391 4 years ago

    Hand on my heart, I read the review before seeing the score, and just now finished reading through the mega thread!

    Mmm, I agree with the comment that we should be well pleased for a popular franchise/game that is getting good reviews, and Rob thanks for a very well written review and fully agree with EG and Eighthours re 10 out of 10.

    Haters/Doubters, ask yourself if the game was exclusive only to PC or PS3 ..? Also if havent played the game or worse never intending to buy the game, how can you be assured in your comments?

    Yes there is a lot to look forward to, COD4, MGS4 and World in Conflict on PC which is a great game I m playing at present. However I simply will get Halo 3 on Wed and give it my attention that its deserve and more confident that I will enjoy both SP and MP. Whatever anyone else say is not going to change that.

    I may be mistaken when I stated my view that H3 will be good but wont get GOTY and that would go to BioShock. I think competition for GOTY 2007 will be more tougher and great news for X360 owners.

  • Caimbeul #392 4 years ago

    10/10? 441 Comments?

    Goodness me, what a palava - still wont buy it or rent it or even play it.

  • bioreit #393 4 years ago

    @ MrChuckles

    But it's all down to personal preference and the ability to change gameplay styles across different formats, isn't it?

    I grew up on PC FPS (well, after the C64, Atari 520/1040ST and BBC Micro, that is...) and I still love playing them today.

    I also loved playing FPS on my Xbox and I love playing FPS on my 360.

    The thing you have to remember is that a FPS on a console can almost be considered to being in a different genre to a FPS on a PC - the PC is the uber-twitchy reactionary or extra-deep thinking tactical experience.

    The console is slower-moving with the control scheme, but usually more arcadey than PC - excellent example is BF2: MC compared to PC BF2.

    And you know what - I can change my playing style to fit the platform that I'm using. I also realise that MY belief about what constitutes the BEST GAME IN THE WORLD is probably different to other people's.

    And I'm ok with that. I don't feel the need to nitpick over someone else's playing choices and talk up the good points of one system while papering over its deficiencies and pretend like they don't exist or are completely inconsequential.

    Edit 1: Hasty typing makes bioreit invent new words
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 11:57

  • Caimbeul #394 4 years ago

    "10/10 but the game is said to be "flawed"?

    The notion of a 10/10 score is ridiculous to me - it's like saying the game is perfect and can never be surpassed, quite literally because there is no room to award a higher score to any future title."

    - Thats why I hate the 1-10/10 scoring system used here and in EDGE. Using a percentage score out of 100 gives you much more scope in scoring. Maybe its a 98% or something?

  • MBar #395 4 years ago

    To all the people saying

    It shouldn't have got a 10 though, since no game can be perfect.

    and the like:

    You have no concept of the real world. Kindly shut the hell up.

    Good review, have now read IGN, GameSpot etc. and Eurogamer are to be commended.

  • bluem4gic #396 4 years ago

    @farticusmaximus

    COD4 a twitch shooter?

    Lol the only twitch shooters are unreal tournament and quake.

    There are no twitch shooters on consoles as they always slower than thier pc counterparts.

    Halo 3 is defintely not one of them.

    Also I don't know what world you live in but COD4 is a faster paced game than Halo 3 as I have played both of them. The turn circle in halo is extremely slow and that magical jump you do in halo is only excused as it a sci-fi fps. So please get your facts straight before posting such nonsence!

  • Verwandlung #397 4 years ago

    Haha 10/10 for halo3, must be the biggest joke of the year.

  • miiiguel #398 4 years ago

    Caimbeul: what's the difference, since the problem of some here is the impossibility of giving 10/10 or 100/100, therefor the scale would end at 9 or 99.9.

    So a good scale would be 0-10 (but 10 can't be given, and maybe 0 either, following the same i-logic) ?

    Verwandlung : yeah, we're all laughing, since we all played it and know the right review would be... tell us.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 12:15

  • Velios #399 4 years ago

    You tossers put too much importance on the scores. Stop arguing and just go and enjoy the game - I'm 30 now, and arguments over rating systems have been around for over 20 years, it doesnt make a blind bit of difference though, there are good games and shit games, reviews just tell you which dog turds to avoid.

  • mattigan #400 4 years ago

    UK:r Review 11/10

    TEH AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • Snooz #401 4 years ago

    So will this version be referred to as Ha10 then? Still haven't finished the original though, these threads seem more funny ;)

  • Rash' #402 4 years ago

    10 suggests a revolutionary game... I look forward to the Edge review.

  • Exones #403 4 years ago

    "Rusta" i do work in the games industry, so any time you want you are wellcome to f... you. I'm not gay though that is the problem. So sorry i have to pass on this.

    My worry is that if Halo3 got 10/10 then CRYSIS for PC (which obviously belongs in another generation) and is years ahead of its time even for PC, then it should get 900/10. I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Just look 1 screenshot of Halo3 and 1 from Crysis and compare them. You will see 10 years Gap of graphics technology.

    My other problem is that because i work in the industry and i know very well how some things work down the pipeline, i cannot understand (based on Halo3 screenshots) what were they doing for the last 5 years. All it looks like is Halo2 rehashed with the same graphics too and lots and lots and lots of brainwashing marketing...
    Honestly they must be very talented people....
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 12:23

  • FilipGp #404 4 years ago

    Oh noes. When I read PlayStation fanboy's comments I just can't belive how someone can't accept the fact that X360 has a great and better (for now) games than PS3 and Halo 3 is one of that kind. Play games and enjoy... who cares which console is better. Games are only important and is beautiful when we have 3 great console's fighting with great games to enter in our room. :)

  • Papalaz1 #405 4 years ago

    Exones: "Rusta" i do work in the games industry, so any time you want you are wellcome to f... you. I'm not gay though that is the problem. So sorry i have to pass on this.

    Games counter at Woolies does not constitute working in the games industry.

  • Lemming81 #406 4 years ago

    "* PC Gamers who are aggrieved that their beloved ninja-boxes that cost them more than a console and half a dozen games to build, is not getting the best FPS shooter released this year. "

    Yes, with Half-Life 2 that's been better than any other shooter for the last 4-5 years, The Orange Box imminent, Bioshock out and Crysis on the way I'm positively shitting myself. *rolls eyes*.

    Oh, and Halo 1 was fucking awful.

    /tenpence

  • drumm23 #407 4 years ago

    Exones:"Daddy, can I tell people - I work in the industry"
    Daddy: "Yes, my little petal, yes you can"
    Exones:"Then I will Daddy... I will tell them all, again and again and again............."



    Daddy:"Fcuking child does my HEAD in."

  • Xerx3s #408 4 years ago

    just to add to the PS3 vs Xbox360 debate

    Heavenly Sword 7/10 Vs Halo 3 10/10
    Warhwark 8/10 Vs Bioshock 10/10
    Resistance 7/10 Vs Gears of War 8/10
    Motorstorm 8/10 Vs Forza 2 9/10

    Thats PS3 exclusives Vs Xbox 360 exclusives...need i say more?

    Oh for crying out loud people! Add something useful or don't bother at all. :/

  • bioreit #409 4 years ago

    @ Lemming81

    Oooh, you had me til "And Halo 1 was fucking awful"...

    Still, I have yet to see something which can cancel out a decent post like a sneery subjective opinion dressed up as objective fact.

    Can.

  • pyrat6 #410 4 years ago

    @headbog - precisely - it is fun.

    Though you did miss out the Xbox girls busily typing away one handed slating other consoles with their other hands down their smelly boxers.

    I love my 360 ... and the Halo franchise ... but why this drives anyone to rant about other consoles baffles me ... it suggests they don't actually enjoy their consoles as much as they should, or perhaps other 'issues'.

  • GingerNathan #411 4 years ago

    "My worry is that if Halo3 got 10/10 then CRYSIS for PC (which obviously belongs in another generation) and is years ahead of its time even for PC, then it should get 900/10. I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Just look 1 screenshot of Halo3 and 1 from Crysis and compare them. You will see 10 years Gap of graphics technology.."

    So because a game is always better if it the graphics are more advanced regardless of game play?
    "You will see 10 years Gap of graphics technology.."
    " Wow really!? you'd have thought the review would have mentioned that the game looks like the original version of Doom for the PC.


    Nice review by the way, although I do have some apprehension on the 10/10 simply because I think the 'perfect' score was handed to easily to Bioshock, I guess I see for myself in a day or two.

  • RichGL #412 4 years ago

    No mention of the co-op mode then?

    Or did I miss it (I read it all I thought).

  • Wash #413 4 years ago

    Crysis 900/10?

    If it isnt fun to play then graphics are all for naught. I didnt like Far Cry, yes it was pretty but the story, cutscenes and gameplay etc etc were very shit.

    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 12:56

  • skx #414 4 years ago


    Crysis = 11/10 or what?

  • GingerNathan #415 4 years ago

    "Halo is the most playable FPS on any platform which is why it is the MOST POPULAR FPS on any platform.
    "
    I assume you mean home console? Otherwise you're wrong on both counts.

  • bioreit #416 4 years ago

    @ Egster

    I'M a PC gamer, so by your logic, I should hate Halo, right?

    Unless, of course, I'm not a true PC Gamer. I mean, it's not like I have a badge, or ID card, or attend all those secret meetings in the FreeGamers Lodges, with the tricky handshake based on Quake console commands...

    Egster, understand this - YOU have opinions and tastes. That's good. Other people have DIFFERENT opinions and tastes. To say that they are totally and completely wrong because theirs are different to yours makes you an elitiest bigot.

    Don't make me invoke Godwin's Law by actually stating what particular European political party your attitudes are similar to.

    Because I will - my morning has been just that bad.

    Edit 1: But then I went and spoiled it all, by seeing that all you owned was Waaaaaaar-haaawk. 'Nuff said - the Halo series could spawn fluffy puppies and cure cancer with their cuteness while solving world poverty and you'd probably run with "Halo puppies put doctors out of jobs" or summat.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 13:06

  • lambtron #417 4 years ago

    "I wouldn't mind if Crysis also gets a 10/10 because I have a 360 and a duo core DX10 :pC, but if Killzone 2 gets a 10 and I don't have a PS3 by then the shit is going to hit the fan on these boards... ;)"

    lol

  • Feanor #418 4 years ago

    "Just look 1 screenshot of Halo3 and 1 from Crysis and compare them. You will see 10 years Gap of graphics technology"

    Exones = unfunny joke.

  • Arcadiian #419 4 years ago

    Am I the only one not understanding the problem with a game scoring a 10 ? A 10 just means it's a fucking great game. That's it. It doesn't mean a game won't come along next year with better graphics, or that the game is Better Than All Other Games Ever™. If you don't like the scoring system, DON'T USE IT. Read the review instead.

  • afghan_jones #420 4 years ago

    Well I reckon it looks pretty decent. the films, forge & co op take it to the next level IMO so 10/10 not too unexpected.

    My only gripe with the Halo series is that the visual style still looks like a firework explosion in a candy factory during a gay pride parade.

    Id much rather see gritty, realistic settings with actual bullets than candy pink tron battles.

  • ExitGhost #421 4 years ago

    Silly PC owners acting like Crysis is in some other dimension, it's a 2008 game, not a 2020 game. It will be surpassed soon enough.

    Damn graphics sluts, offering their digital ass to the first man who shows them the giant black graphical cock dripping in high def cum.
    Edited by 2 at 24/09/07 @ 13:22

  • jiveguy #422 4 years ago

    @Yossarian:

    Kind of, I'm contracting with them, so I have no loyalties to the company itself, so your claims of bias are unfounded! :)

    Besides, you realise when working here (I work in MSN) how much they dislike some of their own products.

  • Sir_TimAlot #423 4 years ago

    Exones, I actually used to work in the games industry, for EA in fact, used to see cysis on a daily basis for about a year, I love FPS but cysis has never got me that excited. I imagine it will be a great game but will suffer the same treatment Halo has in these comments, save your anger and clever comments for then.

  • andromeda #424 4 years ago

    @exitghost

    please tone it down.
    Your children are reading this.

  • Calgon #425 4 years ago

    Well to those who can see past all the anti-hype (and thats the vast majority of level headed gamers) and will pick it up... have fun(which is already apparent in those who have played it), sometimes when the trolls are this obvious you've just got to point and laugh... hahahahhahahaha!

    "its good*stiffled groan* but not great or 10 out of 10 its like 8 or something"

    "Crysis has better graphics than this so how can this be a 10?" (I like my graphics too, which arent bad in Halo3 but thats one of the most extreme whore comments, what ever makes them happy though maybe the gameplay will match but thats not the point he doesnt seem to care about anything but that... and he works in the industry?)
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 13:30

  • Amazing Bryan #426 4 years ago

    Didn't sound like a 10/10 review to me. If the game deserves that score, then there shouldn't be any negative points made about in the text.

    Makes no difference to me though, as I have to get it after playing the previous 2 titles.

  • Calgon #427 4 years ago

    If the game deserves that score, then there shouldn't be any negative points made about in the text.


    I disagree totally, Id be far more suspicious if that were the case because when I did buy it Id be thinking hey did this guy even play it properly? He's showing he knows the game well, telling you the minor flaws which may or may not have affected the score if you were reviewing it... a good review should be whats good, whats not so good and what they thought of it overall, thats exactly what he did... name me one game that didnt have any flaws?
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 13:43

  • Sir_TimAlot #428 4 years ago

    Catwoman was totally flawless.................................owww my soul

  • miiiguel #429 4 years ago

    This thread in a nut shell:

    360 and ecletic players: "wow, I'm so glad I pre-ordered it"

    PS3-only players:
    "Crysis is oh so much better! I've seen the screen-shots, I know!"
    " I'll wait for the Edge review, if it scores anything else above 8 I'll quit video-gaming"

  • Madder-Max #430 4 years ago

    Taking gun emaplacement guns isn't original. You can get the heavy duty guns off the mechs in Lost Planet which also make you deadly and slows down your progress.

    I get the feeling that the environment
    al manipulation will be a big part of the online game when compared to Lost Planet...

  • The-Bodybuilder #431 4 years ago

    >"Games counter at Woolies does not constitute working in the games industry."

    Especially when it's just for 2 weeks to gain work experience.

  • bonker #432 4 years ago

    So what about co-op?

    With co-op it's a must buy for me and my mate, without it, it's not even on our radars ...

    Oh and expect a 9/10 from Edge.

  • Bill_Gates_Bitch #433 4 years ago

    Jeez, there are some fucking idiots on here. Bungie have just created a fucking masterpiece, and Sony fanboys will do anything to try and bring down one of the best FPS series of all time. Get a fucking life, and stop sucking on Phil Harrisons cock, you sad bums.

  • foamy #434 4 years ago

    It has 4 player online co-op. Not sure about split screen though.

  • bonker #435 4 years ago

    "It has 4 player online co-op. Not sure about split screen though. "

    Online co-op where it's at, don't care about split-screen.

    Cool.

  • LOLLERS #436 4 years ago

    This game features the colour pink therefore I hate it and any prequels/sequels.

  • foamy #437 4 years ago

    Online co-op where it's at, don't care about split-screen.

    Cool.

    I had a look at Halo 3 site, and it says that it also features 2 player co-op in split-screen.

  • Turrican #438 4 years ago

    Just a quick fuck you to the people who think its funny to post spoilers in this thread.

    I think your manhood's funny too, but as a scientist with a really powerful microscope I'd be one of the few people able to tell.

  • fightman #439 4 years ago

    what a shame EG has been swept up in the hype of this poo.

  • spidermanalf #440 4 years ago

    More inane comments and a ton of foul language.

    Eurogamer used to have clever and concise posters, now just a load of stupid idiots from computerandvideogames.com.

  • Lemming81 #441 4 years ago

    headbog: "Yes, you are shitting yourself - all that expense, and you still cant play Halo 3 without buying a 360...

    There's subjective a subjective: "I didnt like Halo 1." and them there's plain trollish "Halo 1 was fucking awful".

    Guess which one you used? "


    Why was that trollish? In my opinion it was sodding awful, therefore that's what I wrote. I should be able to say an opinion without having to clarify it. All things are opinion unless clarified as fact, surely? Isn't that writing 101?

    Regardless, I'm just annoyed that some people seem to think that a PC only gamer (which I am not) is somehow 'owned' because the 360 has one good FPS on it. It smacks of console fanboyism which I would hope 360 fans wouldn't want to be labelled.

    Halo 3 could be the best game in the universe, I'll never know - but I wouldn't buy a console for one game anyway. I have nothing against 360s, but I'm not crying myself to sleep over Halo of all things anyway.

  • SwedBear #442 4 years ago

    I'm ... amazed. So many people spending so much time getting upset because a game got a great score?

    Xerxes probably said it best. This is an excellent thread to fill up your ignore list.

    It's one thing discussing whether the flaws are enough to warrant a drop in score but come on - Rob's told us several times why he thinks that the flaws simply do not add up enough to warrant a drop in the score. Sometimes the total is more than the sum of all parts.

    Those that accuse Eurogamer of being bought - you really should be ashamed. Look around. The game is getting excellent scores basically from everywhere. Rob writes an excellent 4 page review trying to tell us about all the flaws that can be interesting even though he finds them minor. He's made it obvious why he thinks the game deserves a 10 so what's to argue about? You might not think it is a 10 (although not many have played it) but it's Rob's review ...

    As for Crysis. So - how many have actually played the whole game yet so you "know" it is 10/10? There is more to a game than pretty graphics. I'm in the MP beta and so far it's ok but far from revolutionary.

    And who ACTUALLy cares about Crysis or any other game in this thread? Halo 3 getting a 10 does not take away anything from other great games ...

    Oh well. I cannot wait for the game to finally get released so that I can finally try it myself to see whether it is a 10 for me or not. Stupidly enough the CoD4 beta gets a level increase the same time and ends on the 30th so the question is what to play until then (I think the CoD4 beta was excellent).

  • miiiguel #443 4 years ago

    EG and every site, such a shame. PS3-only gamers, let's do some suicide bombing in some Halo event! This game really killed our great hobby! How could it turn out good ? How? FFS, how can we ever play a video-game from now on ?

  • gelf #444 4 years ago

    "My only gripe with the Halo series is that the visual style still looks like a firework explosion in a candy factory during a gay pride parade.

    Id much rather see gritty, realistic settings with actual bullets than candy pink tron battles."

    I've never really thought of it before but as someone whose not a big FPS fan I think that might be a big reason I actually do like Halo because its not so fecking gritty all the time. Colour is good!

    The less serious even cartoony aspect of Halo is a plus point in my book. I love the panicky screams of the grunts when you chuck a grenade in between them and suchlike. Hope that's not been lost in this one.

  • jack_klugman #445 4 years ago

    But is it bigger than Jesus?

  • Sebo #446 4 years ago

    You guys are joking about crysis yeah? I mean its graphics are barely better than goldeneye

  • Calgon #447 4 years ago

    I read the spoiler too :( what a... well I dont suppose I need to say it.

    I wasnt buying it on the story anyway but I hope someone repays the favour(Metriod mark my words they wont like that... but personally I dont think I want to lower myself to troll status, if we all stuck to what we like/know there'd be less of this crap).
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:16

  • fightman #448 4 years ago

    halo 3=poo

    m$+£'s 2 EG=10/10

    poo

  • ishigo #449 4 years ago

    fightman = (troll ^ asshat)


    This thread ... it's ... over 9000!!!

  • ExitGhost #450 4 years ago

    This topic shows just how awesome Eurogamer members are, and to think I thought they were better than system wars and Gamefaqs members

    boy was I wrong.

    Eurogamer reviews and the people who write them are great, but the people who pollute the site forums suck major ass.

  • miiiguel #451 4 years ago

    fightman: I'm with you, money is bad; EG is worse; MS is evil; pink is horrible; and we want to go home and cry!
    How can it be good? It's MS! It's da evil, and shit...!

  • Calgon #452 4 years ago

    Owen-B OMG NOES WAYZ... NO WAYZ... *looks at the floor softly mumbling now* no wayz...

  • Amazing Bryan #453 4 years ago

    @ Calgon

    I never really looked at it that way. I was under the impression that a 10/10 game was supposed to mean that it was perfect. Obviously, everyone has a different idea of what perfection is, but from reading the review, I thought that it would of received a 9.

    10's should be reserved for ground-breaking revolutionary games, such as Bioshock. As much as I like Halo, it's still just the same thing at the end of the day.

  • LeD #454 4 years ago

    My wife's got a major ass, but she won't let me suck it! :(

  • Exones #455 4 years ago

    "SwedBear" you played Crysis MP BETA and you didn't like it yeah and nothing in there is revolutionary yeah, you are so right, i so agree. What a crap game man.

    It looks like you played it on a Pentium3 128Mb Ram or something yeah? Otherwise you must be blind my friend.....HAHAHA

    I have a proper PC to play it and when i play it and look at it i can't believe it is game graphics man.....are you joking......lol It is the most breathtaking experience i had with a game so far (both Graphics and Gameplay) so keep playing with your (Old PCs = Xbox360) and let us enjoy the Crap graphics of Crisis.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 14:41

  • Calgon #456 4 years ago

    Amazing Bryan I disagree again, you see other people might not necessarily care about how innovative it is, thus reserving 10s for your own personal preference would be rather selfish... it doesnt always make it a better game, thats the truth of it and why its important to give credit where credit is due on delivering great games regardless of how innovative the ideas are(its still got fresh ideas for the halo series and there is some innovation to be found in the feature set but going along with what you said...)... its how its executed. Thats what we have here in the reviewers eyes a great game worthy of praise and well worth a purchase over many other games.
    Edited by 3 at 24/09/07 @ 14:42

  • fightman #457 4 years ago

    ishigo:

    yes, ive played it - and its barely worth the cost of the dual layer for my backup.

    10/10 - what a fucking joke. its embarassing that potential buyers are being misled in this way by a review that was written inbetween taking the notes out that m$ stuffed up the reviewers arse.

  • jack_klugman #458 4 years ago

    I just finished playing Halo 3. Turns out its actually 11/10. Everybody's wrong!

  • miiiguel #459 4 years ago

    I like Arsenal.

  • SageFrancis #460 4 years ago

    I usually respect Eurogamer when it comes to reviews.

    But this one just looks like you took something under the table from Microsoft.

    I'll still be buying it, but I dont know whether reviewers are giving their honest opinion or they're just giving it 10/10 because they're afraid to give it anything less and/or theyve taken a brown envelope full of cash from M$
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 14:40

  • Sebo #461 4 years ago

    I'd sue you for defamation fightman if I was eurogamer

  • NAC #462 4 years ago

    Halo has finally got a 10 on Eurogamer, meaning the usual folk who disagree don't have any excuses! And they don't like that lol

  • Sebo #463 4 years ago

    And you sagefrancis.

    You need to learn the concept of innocent until proven guility.

    No one is making you buy this game.

    People can make their own minds up about stuff.

  • pyrat6 #464 4 years ago

    @headbog
    pyrat6: You do seem to miss the point that they are responding to a barrage of abuse from unhappy PS3 and PC owners unabatedly bashing the Halo franchise

    I see. 'Them boys over there started it' saying bad things about .... a franchise" ?!?!?

    Grow the fuck up.

  • miiiguel #465 4 years ago

    Stop press! Breaking news:
    "After reading the enlightened posts of industry respected worker 'Exones', and "Anarchy-in-the UK fightman", the 1.5 million Halo 3 pre-orders have been canceled and Bungie is now doing Call of Duty with Aliens part II for the holy-grill"

  • Exones #466 4 years ago

    I just finished playing Halo 3. Turns out its actually 02/10. Everybody's wrong!

    Lol
    Have i convinced you now.......????
    HAHAHAHAHAH

  • mkreku #467 4 years ago

    Uhm.. Wouldn't it be better to actually play the game first before forming an opinion about it..? No?

    Silly me, I'll crawl back under my desk now :(
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 14:47

  • miiiguel #468 4 years ago

    As the portugueses say:

    "the dogs bark, but the train keeps rolling"

  • Scarbir #469 4 years ago

    Greatly positive conclusion and yet some missteps in the game itsself. Lovely review.

  • fightman #470 4 years ago

    enjoy paying for the game on the back of the M$ sponsored review saps.

  • jack_klugman #471 4 years ago

    I just finished playing Halo 3. Turns out its actually 02/10.

    My God... A comment post from two weeks in the future!

  • Kilters #472 4 years ago

    Zero_Cool, thanks for that. I see your prose required some editing to fully elaborate on your point.

    You daft twunt.

  • miiiguel #473 4 years ago

    I had my NTSC Legendary Edition shipped an hour ago, but Best Buy didn't send my NTSC Elite yet.

    I have to buy a PAL edition tomorrow.

    /hopes PS-ultras don't find my home, don't want that nervous shit on my door step/
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:00

  • fightman #474 4 years ago

    EG reviewer is busy laundering the filthy lucre stuffed up his arse by M$ for this 10/10 travesty.

    enjoy paying your money for this tedious slice of yesteryears gaming you thick cunts! lol

  • chicknstu #475 4 years ago

    @Isere

    Rockstar's PS3 Exclusive Project
    ..... are the ones that interest me.

    What, even if it turns out to be..

    "Rockstar Games Presents Tiddlywinks"

  • nick_f Verified Senior Producer, Microsoft #476 4 years ago

    10 = ten = 1010

  • miiiguel #477 4 years ago

    fightman (aka anarchy-in-the-UK): wow, a real gentleman..., I thought this kinda individuals all played Halo. Good news, then.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:03

  • lennon #478 4 years ago

    "I can't believe you people can't just leave it all alone."

    With you on that one although you have to admit its quite funny to read some people imploding due to the fact that just about every review is rating this the same and yet for some reason Eurogamer is where they choose to vent thier anger!

    Although I think I have missed half the conversations due to my ignore list :)

  • Smugglarn #479 4 years ago

    I call BULLSCORE!

  • AcidSnake #480 4 years ago

    @fightman:
    ...Would you calm down already?
    You think EG's on the take...fine...We get that...Now chill...

    I won't say if it's a 10/10 until I've played it...Maybe you should as well?

  • Calgon #481 4 years ago

    Maybe 360 owners should start posting pictures of themselves enjoying the game (one pic with a pad in your hand and a big cheesey grin, follwed by an animated gif of you pointing and laughing at the camera)... or would that be a bit too much for them?
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:14

  • fightman #482 4 years ago

    i expect the reviewers shits will be pretty runny for the next few weeks after having his arse opened so wide for all that M$ cash to be pushed up there.

  • miiiguel #483 4 years ago

    It isn't like EG was the only site to give it a 10:

    100: GamePro
    It's solid gameplay, immense replayability, online functionality and incredible production values will ensure its place in video game history, and it is, without a doubt, a satisfying and fulfilling close to the beloved trilogy[?].

    100: GameSpy
    The Forge is a gargantuan achievement that puts game design in the hands of players, daring you to be creative and invent a Halo 3 multiplayer experience all your own. Of course, the multiplayer is every bit as astonishing as it has been in past iterations and even eclipses its predecessors in many respects.

    100: EuroGamer
    The best game yet in one of the best FPS franchises of the era. Better than either of its predecessors, Halo 3 still can't quite escape the category of flawed masterpiece - but this time around, the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down.

    100: Games Radar
    The single player is bigger and brawnier than anything that's been attempted on a console before. The multiplayer, which already shadowed the competition, has improved to the point of ridiculousness. The new features - Forge, Saved Films, Coop - are frighteningly addictive. And if you don't like any of that, you're always welcome to edit it until you do.

    100: 1UP
    It's hard to imagine a feature of this game that someone won't love... Sure, no one aspect of the game is life-changing on its own, but perhaps the package as a whole is. After all, Halo 3 has enough content to keep you stuck to your controller for weeks, if not months or even years.

    100: Pro-G
    Halo 3 transcends video games. It is a global entertainment experience. Just as "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" and "Spiderman 3" brought to a close two of the most lucrative and epic film trilogies of all time, Halo 3 brings to a close perhaps the most complete, engaging and downright fun video game trilogy of all time. There is absolutely no way any Halo fan will be disappointed by this game.

  • miiiguel #484 4 years ago

    Shiiit, fightman dude, created an account for the Halo event! Hilarious!

    HALO 3: 6 out of 6 posts!
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:13

  • weaselrat #485 4 years ago

    love it, hold it, comfort it. It's everything we've been waiting for and everything Sony boyz dread.
    Killzone smillzone.

  • Subquest #486 4 years ago

    @fightman: why keep posting the same shit over and over? Is this your goal for today? Did you put a post-it note on your fridge? Surely there's something else you could be doing? What would your mother say if she knew you did this all day?
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:14

  • GamesConnoisseur #487 4 years ago

    Bastids! Please stop posting spoilers onto the thread. Its not cool and damn childish!

    I want to discover the story myself and not being told that Cortana killed off that quick or something.

    I think those posting spoilers for a laff are worse than the crazed fanatic, the fanboys. At least you know where you stand with them!

    You want to discuss story and contribute to deconstruction of Halo universe then please do so via separate thread.

    'Nuff said

  • Sebo #488 4 years ago

    Fightman,

    every website could have rated this one out of ten and I would still have bought it. One look at the videos on youtube gives you a better idea of whether you might like this game or not, than a four page review and number does.

    Oblivion was a 10/10, I hated it, but doesn't mean it wasn't a ten to the person reviewing it. They are allowed their opinion.

    I'd say Metal Gear Solid 3 was a ten. I bet a shitload of people don't agree with that.

  • LeD #489 4 years ago

    Ok. Who here can actually self-fellate? I've trying this ever since I was a teenager, and I'm getting close, but no (ahem) cigar. To those of you who manage to do it, what technique do you use?

  • peterfll #490 4 years ago

    For some reason, reading this comments thread makes me want to respond with a posting of my own containing a recipie for chocolate biscuits.

  • justMe #491 4 years ago

    People still play FPS games... how quaint.

    And with a (traditional) console controller, even!

  • miiiguel #492 4 years ago

    "People still play FPS games... how quaint."

    Not really, our thing now is bakering, but every now and then we come to this vintage site, you know... for the ol' days.

  • crazyhorse174 #493 4 years ago

    I cant believe the number of negative comments on this page, just because it scored 10/10.

    I dont remember seeing this many when Bioshock scored 10/10, so it must be all of the Halo haters crawling out of the woodwork. Either that or theres a load of trolls around who just want to wind up everyone and see what happens.

    Does it really matter all that much that it scored 10? Does 10 mean that its perfect?

    Think about it (and I'm sure this has been said already - just cant be arsed reading all of the comments) - what is the point of having a rating scale of 1-10 if a game can never score the full 10? And if it does score 10, does that mean that its perfect, or just means that it is a very good game?

    To be honest, I never expected it to get any less than 9. Bungie knew damn well what they were up against after Halo 2 and knew that they had to make something epic here with 3. I'm glad that they did. I for one will be enjoying my copy when it lands on my mat on Wednesday morning as will the millions of other people who have ordered it.

    Well done Bungie and Microsoft. And well done EG for having the bottle to give it 10/10, knowing full well how mental the comments section would go after the review.

  • crazyhorse174 #494 4 years ago

    Oh and just to add to my last comment - I saw someone going on about the game only getting a high score because of all the advertising that was on the site for it...wasn't Transformers advertised all over this site on the run up to its release, and it received a shite score?

    And I thought I saw Two Worlds advertised as well...shite score there too.

    And these aren't the only 2 examples I've seen...just the more recent ones that stick in my memory.

  • SwedBear #495 4 years ago

    Exones:

    You really are sad :). Yeah, my rig really sucks. Seach on my name and you find the website I run and in a day or two (depending on when I can get it proofed) you will see an article I just wrote on the performance of World in Conflict using various components. I got Q6600 and E6850, 2GB of Corsair 1800MHz DDR3 ram and both 8800GTX and HD2900XT's to play with :). The thing is, I didn't actually say Crysis sucks even though you apparently can't read. I didn't even bash the graphics. I just said that it is ok but so far not revolutionary. It's really fun and I will get it but since we have no idea what the SP will be (or more MP modes), how can you somehow already "know" how great it will be in the end? And even more importantly - in what way does Halo3 getting a great score affect Crysis?

    You and fightman (among others) really are just making utter fools out of yourselves. It's not that you don't like Hale that's the problem - it's that you've taken the whole discussion to the level of a kindergarden kid. You are actually upset because a game on a plattform you do not own has gottena great score :).

    fightman - what's your GT? Would be fun to see if you actually ahve finished the game.

  • Dizzy #496 4 years ago

    Hehehe..

    BTW UkResistance gave it 11/10 :)

  • miiiguel #497 4 years ago

    first time I used ignore, no it wasn't on the halo-pathetic-haters, I like them, they make me smile.
    Was on that spoiler dude who thinks he's so funny
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:46

  • bioreit #498 4 years ago

    @ peterfll

    You will need:

    175g plain flour,
    1tsp baking powder,
    125g margarine,
    90g light muscovado sugar,
    60g caster sugar,
    1/2 tsp vanilla flavouring,
    1 egg,
    125g dark chocolate chips.

    Chuck in a large mixing bowl and mix until well mixed. Don't forget to mix the mix.

    Dump in lumps on a baking tray and chuck in a preheated 190 C/Gas Mark 5/375 F (for you oldsters out there) for 10-12 minutes.

    Excellent and quick and dirty chocolate chip cookies.

  • chiz #499 4 years ago

    10/10 lol, are you lot on crack?

  • JackyB #500 4 years ago

    I dont care for the story, but messin round like that is still not funny

  • miiiguel #501 4 years ago

    Ignore works great! It's just like Live's ignore. They just vanish into Oblivion (which is also shit because it's on the evil machine).

  • bioreit #502 4 years ago

    Just used ignore for the first EVER time: on Owen-B.

    Rudeness, swearing, bigotry and even just plain downright racism I can tolerate on forum threads. But the constant spoilers have driven me to it! Wouldn't mind him posting them, as long as he did something to let people avoid them if they wanted to...

  • Shinji #503 4 years ago

    I'm so making those choc chip cookies tomorrow. HALO 3 THREAD COOKIE. Delicious.

  • LeD #504 4 years ago

    But can you self-fellate? That's all I want to know.

  • sugapunk #505 4 years ago

    Halol

    Honestly, Haze is going to kick Halo 3's ass just like Killzone did back in 2004. And when you factor in Lair, Xbox 360 might as well be a dead console.

  • Shinji #506 4 years ago

    LeD - I can just about lick my own tip, if I strain. Does that count?

  • The-Bodybuilder #507 4 years ago

    Masterchief gets infected by a flood.














    AND BECOMES THE MASTERFLOOD.

  • bioreit #508 4 years ago

    @ Shinji

    If you like 'em (or even if you don't really), I've got a ridiculous recipe for white chocolate torte - basically, think of a white chocolate and double-cream ice cream, on a sticky fudge chocolate brownie base. It's my Christmas dessert and it weighs in at a couple of thousand calories a slice.

    But I only EVER pm that recipe - I couldn't handle the lawsuits from all the public heart attacks...

    And for the non-chocolate peeps out there, or the guys with lactose-intolerance, I have a recipe for non-dairy coconut ice-cream. Pretty much fat-free, too.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 15:57

  • AcidSnake #509 4 years ago

    @Owen-B:
    They can't hear you...

  • bioreit #510 4 years ago

    @ AcidSnake

    Is he still carrying on?

    /sighs in blissful relief at the silence.

    /looks at clock and counts down time until he can get home and start making cookies.

    /looks at ever-expanding waistline and promises that definitely tomorrow the healthy eating will recommence. Absolutely tomorrow. Maybe the day after.

  • bioreit #511 4 years ago

    Sorry sorry sorry for all the posting, but just want you, Shinji, to know that now whenever I see your name (or your real-life moniker), the psuedonym that flashes up in my head will be "tip-licker".

    Excellent new insult, methinks.

  • LeD #512 4 years ago

    Shinji - yes it does! That's a lot closer than I can manage!

    I'm just thinking we should get everybody to try for the next 10 minutes, I'm sure it'll be a nice break from all the rants!

  • oldergamer #513 4 years ago

    Read the review a second time... it really reads like 8 out of 10, unlike the Bioshock review, which got me really excited.

  • LeD #514 4 years ago

    That'll be because of the bribe.

  • SEVQA #515 4 years ago

    10/10 means jack shit!

    100% or 10 out 10 should be theoretically impossible to attain as perfection is an unattainable target to aim for!

  • bioreit #516 4 years ago

    @ cabbadgecase

    Pfft. Ignore 'em. Worse than bloody console fanboys. If it tastes good, who cares.

  • miiiguel #517 4 years ago

    SEVQA: we've been through that, about 347 post ago...

    (in resume: read EG scoring policy where it's stated they reserved themselfs the right to givr 10/10 whenever they please + the bribe of course...)
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 16:16

  • Aretak #518 4 years ago

    Heh.

  • mash the x button #519 4 years ago

    Let's make it to 666 posts.
    10/10 shurely shum misstake?

  • GamesConnoisseur #520 4 years ago

    I dont care if spoilers posted are fake or mildly inaccurate, THERE IS NO CALL FOR IT!

    I already vented my view about this and now for first time ever, Owen-B gonna be added to my 'to be ignored list'.

    /fiddling around looking for the ignore user list, where is that damn facility!!

  • joeking #521 4 years ago

    A psychologist could learn a lot from this thread. The sheer, unadulterated outpouring of venomous hate from certain 'contributors', whilst being lol-worthy to the max, is surely indicative of deep-seated and worrying psychological issues. It is with a mixture of shock, horror and bemusement that I ask myself just why it is that some people are so angry that Eurogamer decided to award Halo 3 a 10.

    :o

  • andromeda #522 4 years ago

    eurogamer reviews are nearly always spot on. With the exception of Sega Rally getting a 9.

    i'm not the biggest Halohead but i take it that from this review the game must be pretty special.
    End of.

  • Eighthours #523 4 years ago

    My worry is that if Halo3 got 10/10 then CRYSIS for PC (which obviously belongs in another generation) and is years ahead of its time even for PC, then it should get 900/10. I don't want to convince anyone about anything. Just look 1 screenshot of Halo3 and 1 from Crysis and compare them. You will see 10 years Gap of graphics technology.

    When you cream your pants all over Echnochrome next year, I will point out this post to you.

  • andromeda #524 4 years ago

    if everyone ignores every comment , then there wont be any more comments and we can get back to the business of playing games

  • jiveguy #525 4 years ago

    @joeking

    They are angry because for some reason they won't buy the hardware platform the game has been exclusively released on and therefore won't get to play it. I fully expect lots of the people who are adamant that it doesn't deserve whatever score it got and who don't have a 360 to come back here after "playing it at a friends" to tell us all they were right.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 16:26

  • monkie_king #526 4 years ago

    @EightHours: so you're basically saying that EG scores should be based solely on graphics? is that because you spend so long buying graphics cards and fiddling with drivers and settings screens that you never actually spend any time enjoying playing a game?
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 16:33

  • dryden555 #527 4 years ago

    Halo 2's single player game was so disappointing in almost every way. Since the enemy AI isnt much improved in this game, I can wait quite a while before I play it. Multiplayer fans will love it.

  • Yossarian #528 4 years ago

    Why are people even comparing Crysis to Halo? The barrel has been scraped.

  • Rich72 #529 4 years ago

    i'm a 35 year old gamer and always try in vain to convince my girlfriend and many of my friends that i'm not and a total geek and just an overgrown kid. it's a good job they don't see these threads as i just wouldn't have a leg to stand on. you are, all of you.... vermin.

  • Caimbeul #530 4 years ago

    @ Miiguel: But the percentage scale would be more flexible. A game like Halo could for example obtain something like 97/8/9% and be classed as nigh on perfect (Not that I am sating this game warrants such a score either way) but not perfect as I personally dont believe that a game could be perfect in every sense of the word. Your argument about the possibility of a Zero score however would also not be possible unless the game were release completely broken (Chances of that happening?...0.00% unless they are idiots) so a percentage system would indeed work and be better.

    Another example is lets say: A slightly above average game (generic FPS A) that gets rated a 7 is followed a week later by another game (generic FPS B) also given a 7. Now when compared to one another, one is better than the other but this cannot be distinguished in the score because there is little room for variation. Giving it either an 8 or marking the other a 6 maybe doing an injustice to one or the other. Using the % system would allow you to score one at 70% for example and the other at say 73%. Both nigh on the same score but there is enough room to say one is better albeit it slightly.

  • Verwandlung #531 4 years ago

    Eurogamer giving halo3 10/10 makes this a very bad day for gamers.

    Why I don't like halo:


    It does nothing new, the same old uninspired alien story. (see almost every shoot em up since Doom)
    Has very lame enemies. (that speak with a geeky English voice!)
    Has very lame weapons.(pink lasers?!)
    Has very lame vehicles.
    ...
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:03

  • Yossarian #532 4 years ago

    By that logic, a scale that rated games out of a 1,000 or even 10,000 would be the most precise and efficient way of doing things. Then we would know exactly that a game scoring 93.756% is superior to a game that scored 93.755%, and the world would be a tidier and less complicated place!


    Eurogamer giving halo3 10/10 makes this a very bad day for gamers.

    How, exactly? Explain to me how.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:00

  • monkie_king #533 4 years ago

    yeah, rather than hair-splitting percentages you might as well just ditch scores and rank games on a ladder per genre. so when Killzone2 comes out, for instance, it could slot between Crysis and Halo3 -- that would tell you exactly what it's better than, without endless quibbling over scores.

    joking, of course. this is a horrible idea.

  • dryden555 #534 4 years ago

    actiontrip's review says that the single player campaign is around FIVE HOURS long. Hope the reviewer is wrong about that.

  • Santino #535 4 years ago

    i'm just about finished level 7 on legendary difficulty after playing for around 15 hours, i wouldn't worry too much about length, just play it on a hardish setting. Also i'm really shocked i like this game quite as much as i do, i thought the first was good fun in co-op but i got bored playing it by myself, the 2nd i really didn't like, but this has surprised me in a good way. i think i'll be buying it.

  • RedPanda #536 4 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • bioreit #537 4 years ago

    Verwandlung:

    "I don't like Halo" but "Eurogamer [gave] Halo 3 10/10" so therefore this is "a very bad day for gamers".

    Verwandlung - stop being such an elitist arse. Accept that some people like different things to you, embrace that difference and live on.

    I mean, you own Anno 1701 ferchris'sake - hardly a shining example of orginal storylines, weapons, unit types and dialogue, is it? I love the game too, but to be harsh on Halo 3 for doing things that a game you own and presumably enjoy also does smacks of double-standards and hypocrisy.

  • miiiguel #538 4 years ago

    "a very bad day for gamers"

    Because it debuted on the Evil machine, no other reason apart from that, period. Have this been a PS title and it would be a bright day for gamers.

  • DUFFKING #539 4 years ago

    But.. but... it's cool to hate something popular!

  • kangarootoo #540 4 years ago

    @Rich72

    "i'm a 35 year old gamer and always try in vain to convince my girlfriend and many of my friends that i'm not a total geek and just an overgrown kid. it's a good job they don't see these threads as i just wouldn't have a leg to stand on. you are, all of you.... vermin."

    + fucking 10.

    I wasn't going to dirty my keyboard on this thread at all (I was initially not even going to read it, satisfying myself that my apparent powers of clairvoyance would tell me all I needed to know about what lay therein; ghoulish curiosity got the better of me), but I just had to respond to that one.

    I shall now leave this thread forever for my own good, and burn my gloves on the way out.

  • Nallen #541 4 years ago

    I find it hard to believe a game described as unfinished, as having last gen graphics, being one dimensional and compared at such length to the unquestionably sub-par Halo 2 can really be worthy of a 10, however I'll play it myself to be sure.

    The review really did read like a 8 tops.

  • Caimbeul #542 4 years ago

    I own a High end PC, 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP yadda yadda yadda I think the argument about people bashing the score "because they are jeleous, dont have the console etc" is unjustified. I think the score is simply too high. Bioshock is also a great game but I would disagree with its 10/10.

    At the end of the day people needs to realise that these are peoples opinions - one person swears his is right, the other the same. Slanging matches on a forum will not solve anything or change a persons mind.

    If you dont like the game (which i dont) fine, dont buy it. If you like it, great buy it.

  • smelly #543 4 years ago

    (wonders how much the reviewer got paid...)

  • KingOfTheC #544 4 years ago

    I had a chicken tikka keema at Akbar's in Leeds the other night. I'd give it 10/10 because it tasted really nice.


    Cue 500 people telling me that I "can't possibly be right" because they don't like Indian food, and India have been making similar food for ages.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:16

  • Caimbeul #545 4 years ago

    "@exitghost

    please tone it down.
    Your children are reading this."

    You think he has Children?

    /shudders

  • miiiguel #546 4 years ago

    @KingOfTheC :
    Good analogy, but incorrect. Take a look at a recent event:

    Sony said: "rumble is so passé"
    PS-only crew: "rumble is so last-gen!"

    Sony says: "we managed it! buy the rumble, gentlemen!"
    PS-only crew: "see, we too have rumble!"
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:18

  • George-Roper #547 4 years ago

    @smelly

    "(wonders how much the reviewer got paid...)"

    FFS, if that's yer attitude at least be consistent and wonder how much ALL the other site reviewers got paid too, considering Halo 3 has near universal praise so far.

  • miiiguel #548 4 years ago

    @ Nallen and the half-dozen saying that EG is on Acid :
    yet again, see metacritic.com
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:22

  • KingOfTheC #549 4 years ago

    @Miiiguel

    I'm not sure it's really a "console wars" kind of thing tbh. A lot of people just seem to dislike Halo 1 and 2.

    And those people, having played through and completed Halo 3, dispute that it isn't worth a 10/10.

    What?


    Edit: meh
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:25

  • mkreku #550 4 years ago

    But.. I liked Killzone :(

    It had an awesome setting..

  • Verwandlung #551 4 years ago

    I'm going to play some Fallout 2. Fuck games anno 2007.

  • Sebo #552 4 years ago

    @kingofc

    By far the best comment I've read in here all day.

  • Fitzmogwai #553 4 years ago

    I've just skipped the last 400 comments because, frankly, I just couldn't be bothered to read them, so if the discussion's moved on (ha!) I apologise.

    Anyway, that's all. Enjoy playing your game, Halo 3 owners. Or shaking your fists and shouting, non-Halo 3 owners.

  • miiiguel #554 4 years ago

    @ KingOfTheC:

    Let's try some honesty, and face it, that 100% of the ppl here saying "it sucks"; "doesn't deserve it"; "bad day for gamers"; "EG got paid"; and such perls are saying that because of a "skin problem" towards the evil empire, and they haven't played it (although they will, will like it, but never ever admit it). I bet a finger on it that if Halo came to PS they would like it.
    I love Halo and I love MGS, what about that, huh ? Crazy shit, isn't it ?
    Edited by 2 at 24/09/07 @ 17:31

  • mkreku #555 4 years ago

    @Verwandlung: You're gonna looove Fallout 3 then ;)

  • Verwandlung #556 4 years ago

    Hahaha

  • smelly #557 4 years ago

    http://ww w.infendo.com/marketing/its-tim...

  • miiiguel #558 4 years ago

    (Looks at all the halo adverts donning all those sites....)


    Didn't work for Two Worlds..., and for Transformers ?

  • Caimbeul #559 4 years ago

    "Exones, do you work in the industry or something?"

    Lol

  • George-Roper #560 4 years ago

    @smelly

    ""FFS, if that's yer attitude at least be consistent and wonder how much ALL the other site reviewers got paid too, considering Halo 3 has near universal praise so far."


    (Looks at all the halo adverts donning all those sites....) "

    As stated, that worked soooo well for Transformers didn't it....

  • mash the x button #561 4 years ago

    It's a bit like Titanic winning the Oscars...

  • muftak #562 4 years ago

    No game deserves this a prefect 10 is impossible there has to be flaws, reading a lot of other reviews they all say the same AI could have been better and not much different than halo 2 does not sound like a 10 to me 8/10 max .....

    time for eurogamer to learn percentages

    bioshock didn't deserve a 10 , oblivion didn't deserve a 10 either , and yes i have played both oblivion was way to easy and boring once you done the main story and the dark brotherhood quests out the way , Bioshock started off brill but as ive got near the end very boring i want it to finish quickly so i can sell it and get something new

    all of these got 10/10 but had flaws.

    just my 2 cents
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 17:43

  • InfiniteFury #563 4 years ago

    I've only just logged onto Eurogamer since the weekend. Have I missed anything?

  • Caimbeul #564 4 years ago

    I wonder what happens when i put fightman on my ignore list...?

    Aahhh Bisto!

  • Sebo #565 4 years ago

    Nice link smelly

    I remember the uproar at Total magazine giving Mario All-Stars 99 percent, and then Mario 64 100 percent....

    So I doubt we will see Jack's shift in scores anytime soon. It's the no such thing as bad publicity approach. These sites feed on this controversy.

  • George-Roper #566 4 years ago

    @smelly

    You cynical bastard!

    I'm starting to like you....

  • sanctusmortis #567 4 years ago

    You guys have had at least 8 hours and this is the best you could do? Come on! Same ol' same ol'.

    PC gamers: your games are compressed and then installed, and usually worked on for many moons. Get used to the idea that console games are of a different breed, having to be (usually) self contained units that have to run off a disc, knocked out in 2 years tops in the main. They may not be as pretty as games running on £2k systems, and you can cry over there being no mouse on a gamepad, but they stand on their own merits.

    "Nothing new" commentators: the gradually recharging "armour", stealth camo, 2-gun weapon system, decent console-based squad AI (something, for sure, anyone who has got to "follow Freeman" on HL2 will attest is normally very ropey at best), a control system that's now the standard, heck even having a workable torch. Most of these came into other games post-Halo, and those that didn't were PC gimmicks (remember, Halo was before Doom 3, which IIRC was the other game to have a torch key). It was considered very innovative at the time, and just because every man and his dog has copied it doesn't mean it stopped being so. This one adds equipment, a world editor multiplayer game, fully customisable game stuff á la Garysmod, and 4 player online co-operative that wasn't just tacked on. Oh, and video sharing, performance scoring, and fully editable playback. There IS new stuff, you just choose to IGNORE it. Grow up.

    Sony/Nintendo "diehards": why do you care? You'll never play it. It will affect you in no way. Why are you here? You've got Metroid Prime 3 and Haze to watch for.

    And finally, score doubters: a 10 is for a game that stands out ahead of the field in its genre. Halo is a pure shooter - no puzzles, no atmospheric horror elements, no OTT realism. At the end of it, it's you versus AI in a sci-fi enviroment. The Halo trilogy is to the FPS what LOTR trilogy was to fantsay films - an epic, engrossing blast. Both have faults, but they are always minor nitpicks that, if we're honest, make no massive difference. Both will very much stand out in their genres for a long time, and as such demand high praise. A 10 is NOT perfection, otherwise it would be pointless to have a scale that included it as there is no such thing as a perfect game. To those who are interested, it will fulfil their wants to a great amount. Those who aren't... well, they wouldn't care anyway, would they?

    In summary: those who care/are interested will love it. Those who aren't, well, don't care, and can't really comment.

  • Caimbeul #568 4 years ago

    "and yet for some reason Eurogamer is where they choose to vent thier anger!"

    Probably due to virtually free use of language.

  • monkie_king #569 4 years ago

    @smelly: i seem to recall EG was plastered with Heavenly Sword ads around that time it was reviewed. So by your logic it must actually be quite a bit worse than 7/10 suggested, right?

    There's a little thing in journalism called the Chinese wall. EG have consistently demonstrated their editorial indepedence over several years. And really, if you don't believe EG's score then why are you so threatened by it?

  • Xerx3s #570 4 years ago

    So smelly, are you shouting the same for something like OoT? Or SM64? Tjesus, I expected better of you.

    Yes, the industry is sick but only shouting it when it suits you is bull.

  • Snarky #571 4 years ago

    OMG I think there is something wrong with me!

    I like Halo but I like the PS3 too!

    Can anyone suggest how I fix this dire problem? :o

  • Caimbeul #572 4 years ago

    "By that logic, a scale that rated games out of a 1,000 or even 10,000 would be the most precise and efficient way of doing things. Then we would know exactly that a game scoring 93.756% is superior to a game that scored 93.755%, and the world would be a tidier and less complicated place!"

    /detects a trace of sarcasm

    Dont know if that was referring to my comment about scoreing scales/methods but here is my 2 cents: You are simply taking it to the extreme for the sake of it of course going to 1k or 10k would be ridiculous - let keep things in perspective. 0-100 is a manageable balance.

  • monkie_king #573 4 years ago

    @smelly: fyi, Shinji said in another thread that it's a solid 9/10 for the campaign/single-player, and his 10/10 includes all the MP stuff.

    Make of that what you will.

  • ArtOfLife #574 4 years ago

    Wow; I wasn't expecting a 10, or in fact all the reviews to be so consistently high. And well done to the makers of Halo; they've kept the standard of the series up and delivered what sounds from all the reviews like an incredible end to the series, and one which more than lives up to the hype. Halo personally isn't really my thing as I'm not a fan of either first person shooters or science fiction, but I enjoyed the first one and all this talk about Halo 3 is getting me more and more interested in it. I feel like I'm missing out by not being able to play it whenever half the world's games players are doing just that, right now! Or at least, by the end of the week.

    At the moment I only own a PS3 and not a 360 or Wii, but the more games of this calibre released for those two consoles, the harder it's becoming for me to resist the urge to buy them ^_^

  • Nallen #575 4 years ago

    miiiguel, I'm not saying EG is on Acid, I'm saying the score didn't make sense in light of the review and I'll be making my own mind up.

    A concept that seems to hold little merrit with lot of people around these parts ;)

  • smelly #576 4 years ago

    Post #666!!! YAY!

  • smelly #577 4 years ago

    >+ thanks for the early review EG

    .. at the EXACT same time/day as every other website posted theirs...

  • zendragon #578 4 years ago

    Was it the same guy that reviewed halo2?

    has eurogamer sold out or is it afraid of the fanboy wrath? It doesn't even read like a 10.

  • Caimbeul #579 4 years ago

    POSTED BY RICH72:
    "i'm a 35 year old gamer and always try in vain to convince my girlfriend and many of my friends that i'm not and a total geek and just an overgrown kid. it's a good job they don't see these threads as i just wouldn't have a leg to stand on. you are, all of you.... vermin."

    A touch harse dont you think. I cant truthfully say I have read all posts but not is behaving like a moron.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 18:08

  • CouldntResist #580 4 years ago

    Posted By Caimbeul -

    "POSTED BY RICH72:
    "i'm a 35 year old gamer and always try in vain to convince my girlfriend and many of my friends that i'm not and a total geek and just an overgrown kid. it's a good job they don't see these threads as i just wouldn't have a leg to stand on. you are, all of you.... vermin."

    A touch harse dont you think. I cant truthfully say I have read all posts but not is behaving like a moron.
    Edited 1 times. Most recently by Caimbeul at 18:08 on 24/09/2007"

    No, he's right. All of you ARE vermin. These threads are disgusting.

  • DUFFKING #581 4 years ago

    Why do we get invaded by GameFAQS on every major game release?

  • taiiomi #582 4 years ago

    coolio so are any of you guys gonna pick this one up?

  • Xerx3s #583 4 years ago

    GOD F***ING DEMMIT! My Ignore button has just broken down through extensive use against the idiots that are swarming these parts now.

    EG should have the option to have everybody on ignore unless specified otherwise. I would have to use it a lot less. :/

  • GamesConnoisseur #584 4 years ago

    No score system is ever gonna be perfect or satisfactorily enough to everyone. Accept this truth.

    A game rated 9 out of 10, or 89 percent or 4 and half will be measured differently for each individual's preference and also sustainable over a period of time? When better titles come out compared to this game from earlier period. Standing the test of time is a different quality that is harder to achieve. Which is why we have all time greats, hall of fame etc.

    We all have rose tinted glass of our certain favourite games, play it right now and commit your time to it, doesn't it play differently to your memory? Sure there are classics we love to play again and again.

    Halo 3 is not just getting high score here, but also many other places too. Averaged them in is getting a respectable score which does disagreed with the opinions of many detractors, why? I think the main disagreements are simply on the point of perfect 10 out of 10 score. Many angry comments would simply be gone if EG gave it 8 or 9 out of 10. So it is courage that EG and Rob gave the 10/10 score when they knew would be getting the flaks for it.

    I think we need to be mature about what we allow as 10 out of 10, accept that such score would be given to game with some minor flaws and will have shine taken out of it over a period of time, but at the time a worthy standout title deserving of highest possible praises from gamers.

    As a gamer I am delighted for Halo 3 and would certainly hope that my enjoyment of game would be matched, being replayed for a good while. I have no false expectation that it is a god like monument of a game. No game on Earth can match that.

  • taiiomi #585 4 years ago

    @ GamesConnoisseur

    what you said!

  • SwedBear #586 4 years ago

    Xerxs: It would be nice and quiet then, wouldn't it :)? Although of course it would be hard to put someone on before you know if he/she was sane :).

    Maybe a reputation system where you can give +/- to posters .. seen it work on other sites before. then you could filter according to their reputation. Although that system isn't perfect either ...

    Oh well. One thing has struck me though. there seems to a be a lot of those who dislike the score and game that claim to have played it through. Would be interesting to see their GT's just to see if its true. or was that "backup copies" you played?

    As for the whole scoring debate. I'm not sure a 100-grade system is better. In the end people will keep arguing why game X got 94 and game Y 96 and arguing how important those 2% are.

    Could people also finally stop bitching about how 10/10 should be impossible and mean "perfect"! How many times do we need to link to this site explanation regarding the score 10? 10 does not mean flawless. It just means a kick-ass game. no game exist that is flawless.

    BTW - anyone hard anything regarding if the Leg. edition will be out at the same time as the others? Got a bit burned on Bioshock where the CE edition was a week late.

  • Xerx3s #587 4 years ago

    Why do we get invaded by GameFAQS on every major game release?

    Because unhappy cunts feel the urge to let other people know how miserable they are. Just keep clicking that ignore button. \0/

  • ResidentKnievel #588 4 years ago

    How many people are on your ignore list exactly?

  • gieltjegitaar #589 4 years ago

    Random comment!

  • orakio #590 4 years ago

    Over 680 comments. MS is right to pick europe as their main market

  • Sebo #591 4 years ago

    No one is listening anymore

  • Sebo #592 4 years ago

    @orakio

    680 comments of controversy over one of its games scoring high, accusations of review being paid for, yeah, Europe loves Microsoft!!!

  • Xerx3s #593 4 years ago

    How many people are on your ignore list exactly?

    I will tell you when my button cools down again.

  • MasterControlProgram #594 4 years ago

    So, a sure candidate for a Famitsu 40/40 score, isn't it?



    /laughs isterically

  • GamesConnoisseur #595 4 years ago

    So, a sure candidate for a Famitsu 40/40 score, isn't it?

    Nope got 10/9/9/9 which add up to 37/40 as I understand.

  • patchbox360 #596 4 years ago

    just read the review


    yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaah

  • smelly #597 4 years ago

    Its only a number after all.

    As it's a sequel i think most people will have decided whether or not they want it based on their experiences of the first 2 games..

    So the score matters not really.

    Nothing in the review makes me think it's anything more than "more of the same" so i doubt i'll get it.

  • Keza #598 4 years ago

    TEN DOES NOT MEAN PERFECT OH FOR HEAVENS' SAKE HOW MANY TIMES NEED THIS BE SAID.

    Nobody complains when movie reviewers give things five stars! We get the worst lot, as critics go.

  • WayMucho #599 4 years ago

    Wow, just finished reading the comments (ok I admit it - I skimmed from 300 onwards). Great review. As a Halo fan, this is exactly what I was hoping for (the game that is, not the flaming).
    It's funny that people are getting so worked up over the score when I can't think of a game where it's less relevant: the fans will buy it no matter what; the haters will hate it no matter what.

  • davisorle #600 4 years ago

    I'm just so glad to see this happening. All i have to say is that while you argue I finished Halo on normal and going for hard so i can get to Legendary difficulty soon!
    The Game is amazing and most fun and i really dont give a shit to read all the hater's comments or anythign at all! I respect Bngie and Helo for what thy have created and the stupid way ppl have to act like this over it. People can be no better than animals even when it comes to video games o.O Going to play some coop with my friend now so you keep up the Vs fight in the comment section! Have fun anyways :p

  • Yaz #601 4 years ago

    So...what been happening lately?

    ;)

  • silver-jon #602 4 years ago

    I only read the article and then the first page of people "speaking their brains", and it annoys the feck out of me when people say things broadly along the lines of "You can't give 10/10 because that means it's perfect and insurpassable". Look, cocknuts, it's a subjective measure made by someone who reviews games for a living. It's their job, and their opinion. Some people absolutely think Adam Sandler is funny. Some people think Jose Morinho is a genius instead of a lucky git landing a plum role with £200M of spending power behind him. My dog could have led Chelsea to the Premiership title. So long as he didn't keep puncturing the ball.

    I work in learning and development and absolutely hate it when some cock says "Well I would have given you 5/5 (excellent) for your facilitation but that means you're perfect, and no-one's perfect" without actually considering that A/ My performance is appraised by the scores I get so these fucknuts are messing up my annual bonus with their stultifyingly ill informed, petty principles, B/ It just means you think it's excellent. The world doesn't stop revolving because you gave it top marks. The sky won't fall in and you won't be forced to go to work in your underwear. It just means you think it's an excellent piece of work.

    And another thing - why do some people who admit they'll never buy the game, let alone have already played it and THEN question the score ? Are they congenitally stupid or merely insane ? That's like saying "Skiing is rubbish. Skiing shouldn't get 10/10. Of course I've never tried it but . . . ".

    Anyway, thanks for the review. I really hope you're right and that it's a top-notch example of pure FPS action, free of those frustrating puzzles (never was happy doing logic puzzles!), and with the narrative drive to keep me ploughing through another "Library" level. :-)

  • Axel40 #603 4 years ago

    Picked it up on Saturday from WH Smiths, game is worth a 10.

  • smelly #604 4 years ago

    You lot still whinging?

    Sheesh! I hate to think what wouldve happened if this got a 7/10 :-)

  • foamy #605 4 years ago

    I THINK GEARS OF WAR GOT MORE COMMENTS. COME ON GUYS, GET SOMETHING TO WHINE ABOUT.

  • Rich72 #606 4 years ago

    "POSTED BY RICH72:
    "i'm a 35 year old gamer and always try in vain to convince my girlfriend and many of my friends that i'm not a total geek and just an overgrown kid. it's a good job they don't see these threads as i just wouldn't have a leg to stand on. you are, all of you.... vermin."

    A touch harse dont you think. I cant truthfully say I have read all posts but not is behaving like a moron. "

    was meant to be a quote from the trailer at the end! a bit tongue in cheek but not too far from the truth.

  • smelly #607 4 years ago

    DAMMIT!!!

    It's no good! I know i'm not going to like it.. I know that it's going to as generically repetitive as the previous games...

    .. But yet, with all the hype.. i'm considering buying it...

    GAH!

  • defdaz #608 4 years ago

    8 hours? Fo' real?

  • Katsumoto #609 4 years ago

    Wow, I only have 4 fanboys on my ignore list and this thread is over 40 comments shorter than it should be. AWesome.

  • smelly #610 4 years ago

    "Wow, I only have 4 fanboys on my ignore list and this thread is over 40 comments shorter than it should be. AWesome."

    I have 4 fanboys on my ignore list who keep posting in wii/ps3 threads telling everyone how crap they are.. And this thread is over 60 comments shorter than it should be...

    Dunno if that's awesome.. or sad :-)

  • dredd97 #611 4 years ago

    Well, i look forward to playing this on me 360 this wednesday...

    I think EG's problem seems to be that they only review games in the 1 to 10 range, which doesn't allow for any margins of error.. if they rated games from 1 to 100, it would give them a little more to play with, as they would feel the need to mark it down a few points for it's minor flaws, something scoring a game in their current way just doesn't allow for...

    it might help counter some of the more wilder accusations of 'paid for' reviews..

    on a different light, you have to feel sorry for bungie... although halo is their game, it seems ms are going to receive the lions share of all the profits.. 80% if some analyst are to be believed (or $560 mill compared to bungies $140 mill), ok i know ms are marketing the game, but 80% of the profit? hardly seems fair at all...

  • Drakron #612 4 years ago

    Bungie is owned by Microsoft you know ...

  • Verwandlung #613 4 years ago

    In 1993 I played a game named Doom, It was about a space marine saving the world by killing a lot of aliens.
    It was great, now it' s 2007 and we get a game named halo 3 it offers nothing more than doom with unreal tournament gameplay -1, kill the evil retarded aliens with pink lasers.

    why do people buy/like this???

  • polar #614 4 years ago

    Yeah UT single player was fantastic wasn't it?

  • morriss #615 4 years ago

    It will be awesome.

  • mcmonkeyplc #616 4 years ago

    Most disappointing comments thread EVER award goes to Halo 3!

    Wow its already winning awards and its not even out yet.

  • Verwandlung #617 4 years ago

    Unreal was fantastic in 1998. Halo 1 was a cheap rip off in 2001.

  • Verwandlung #618 4 years ago

    Who cares, buy the damn thing, they will make a fourth. zap zap

  • Verwandlung #619 4 years ago

    zap zap zap di zap zap zap

  • dredd97 #620 4 years ago

    'Bungie is owned by Microsoft you know ...'

    no shit sherlock!.. i know it is, but even knowing that, it still seems unfair...

  • Strac #621 4 years ago

    or Unreal was a Marathon rip off? etc etc doesn't really matter

    you could say that the halo-world is a big ringworld ripoff, but i just enjoy both without nitpicking

    btw, waiting for a new Myth game from Bungie now, the first 2 had soooo much atmosphere

  • Verwandlung #622 4 years ago

    I did like the first Myth , I really did.
    But now i am old and bitter.
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 23:32

  • smelly #623 4 years ago

    "
    no shit sherlock!.. i know it is, but even knowing that, it still seems unfair..."


    But if it wasnt for microsofts HUGE wedge paying for all the promotion/advertising/etc then it wouldnt sell half as well as it's going to do (lots).. And it probably wouldnt have got the review scores it has either.. but that's another story :-)

  • sanctusmortis #624 4 years ago

    There's something deeply ironic about someone with a login named after an amazing Kafka story full of intelligence and originality spouting the same shit. Unreal had recharging shields? Sticky grenades, a genre defining control setup? No. It was just a Quake understudy. Read post 656.

  • Trakerz #625 4 years ago

    Let me guess...the reviewer started the game and he said..OMGZZZZ..it`s actualy 3D and you can use vehicles and blow s*** up!!!!!!!!RUXXXXORZ,this is much better then ZXspectrum games

    niiiiice
    sounds like a good reason for a 10/10
    Edited by 1 at 24/09/07 @ 23:39

  • RedPanda #626 4 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • drumm23 #627 4 years ago

    silver jon -
    Mourinho is considered a footballing genius because he WON the Champions Leagues with Porto. That alone is phenomenal. And even with all that Chelski money he NEVER lost a premiership game at home. While un his entire professional management career he's never lost 3 games in a row.
    Indeed, the Halo 3 of football managers, if you will.

  • Machiavellian #628 4 years ago

    If the 10 score is such a big deal, has anyone that complained about the score actually read the review scale at EG or any site. As others have stated 10 doesn't mean imperfect it means that the reviewer though the total game was the BOMB. Anyway what I would like to know is what the hell is the difference as a player would it be if a game scored 9.0, 9.5, or even 10.0. Would your enjoyment of the game be any less. Would you really feel like you did not get the value for your money. In the end, I only need a scale that says Bad, fair, Good, Great.

  • Agent_Llama #629 4 years ago

    /plays Halo to end to prepare for Halo 3 (haven't got time to do Halo 2)
    /throws controller down in disgust at last bit in Warthog
    /cancels pre-order

  • InsoFox #630 4 years ago

    @mach

    Bad, fair, good, great isn't quite enough for me. I've played a lot of GREAT games. Like... well, Halo 2 was that game for me. It was great. Really liked it a whole lot. I find, say, one of the Ace Combat games great. And Gears of War.

    They're better than good.

    But they're not quite on the level of games that I will look back on in 10 years' time with intense admiration, that I will recognise as a real 'moment' in my gaming life. So I need a level above great. Masterpiece, perhaps. Then I'd go along with what you're saying.

  • Lateralaus #631 4 years ago

    Halo 3 will be a 10/10 in my book anyway, single player might not be the best but if multiplayer is basically the 2nd game improved then I know for a fact I will still be playing this game in a years time. After all i still play halo2 multiplayer frequently.

  • quantumsheep #632 4 years ago

    LOUD NOISES!!!

  • Carrybagma #633 4 years ago

    Wow. It did it.

  • Collie #634 4 years ago

    So it's a game to miss then. Right ho.

  • Trikk #635 4 years ago

    Why does every Halo reviewer sound like they've never played an FPS before? Now, I haven't sat down with the 3rd one yet, but from my experiences with the two earlier incarnations it would never cross my mind to describe it as "extremely fast-paced".

    Compared to Rainbow Six or what?

  • Calgon #636 4 years ago

    That link Smelly posted was drenched in hypocrisy and quite preachy really, telling us we like the wrong games because they arent mainstreem/accessable to grandma enough? Pure spin from someone trying so hard to sound a non fanboy.

    Like I said the crowd MS have buy more games(and I told you didnt I smelly? you argued with a poor copout about "they just pirate" but the figures are there, use logic and then ask yourself which are likey to a) care about the industry more b) Justify spending more of their dosh on it), if I was choosing a Wii Id be buying alot less because there isnt alot that interests me there... theres a place for Wii deffinately and they will ship lots of hardware(and make profit = great for Nintendo...) but as a traditional gamer for my tastes they are failing on the software front... innovation isnt there, after all the preaching they did and continue to do. Nintendo Fanboys simply are hypocrites(switch arguements all the time) theres nothing more they hate than to see the competition doing well. Forget innovation for a second just some great games like 360 has would be a start, I cant see them ever matching it on the part for me. Ive nothing against Nintendo(I dont think 360 or PS3 will ever cater for younger audiences as good as Nintendo for a start, gamings for adults too but lets not get totally selfish and forget that) their trolls are some of the most baffling of all with how they find fault in everything and anything thats in any way more successfull than a competing Nintendo product(see they'll deny Metriod has anything to do with it but check some of the posts and you'll see they are bitter its not getting half the attention) and they carry this "you either like Nintendo or you're not a gamer..."(even though technically Nintendo welcomes non gamers, must be confusing times for the old Nintendo diehards) attitude with them(personally I took to Sega better no chance of getting both consoles either though lol).
    Edited by 3 at 25/09/07 @ 03:12

  • Calgon #637 4 years ago

    You know as far as I remember, I've never used ignore on anyone before Owen-B...








    What I was just saying dont worry, ;) but you really might have made some of the hardcore Halo fans awaiting the release patiently, want to smash something earlier, as they had no idea if you had actually read that somewhere.
    Edited by 2 at 25/09/07 @ 03:23

  • DjFlex52 #638 4 years ago

    You know as far as I remember, I've never used ignore on anyone before Owen-B...

    me neither...maybe he's broken a record for how many ppl put him on ignore in one day ;)

  • Xerx3s #639 4 years ago

    Sheesh! I hate to think what wouldve happened if this got a 7/10 :-)

    Ehm, the haters wouldn't have anything to spit on so they wouldn't be here.

  • MrsPacMan #640 4 years ago

    From Metacritic;

    Early reviews of Halo 3 suggest that Xbox 360 owners should kiss the ground in front of their collective televisions, as Bungie's latest hits stores this week, joining 2K's BioShock as a double-barrelled gravity hammer shot of gaming manna for the Microsoft faithful. Note to Sony and Nintendo: the gauntlet has been thrown, and all owners of PS3 and Wii should kiss 360 owners butts.

    OK I added that last bit myself.
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 08:22

  • Vin #641 4 years ago

    "And another thing - why do some people who admit they'll never buy the game, let alone have already played it and THEN question the score ? Are they congenitally stupid or merely insane ? That's like saying "Skiing is rubbish. Skiing shouldn't get 10/10. Of course I've never tried it but.."

    That's the hardcore Miyamoto contingent.

    They simply whine about the death of 2D, the purported molestation of their favorite dead franchises, and their inability to discover or enjoy ANY modern gaming simply because the majority of the titles aren't on their console of choice or come stamped with characters from their favorite old-school franchise.

  • JackyB #642 4 years ago

    I love a Miyamato game, and i have a Wii. But I am also itching to get Halo 3, and feel by sheer weight of great games, the 360 is by far the best console ( for me at the moment), so i have to disagree with you Vin

  • mash the x button #643 4 years ago

    Review written by a Halo fan for Halo fans. That's about it.
    I hope Rachet & Clank gets 10/10 given the criteria for the review.
    Popular series.
    Fun gameplay.
    Fun weapons.
    etc
    etc
    etc

  • thinred #644 4 years ago

    I've not played the game, but from reading some reviews, including EG's, I take it the graphics, for one, are far from top notch. If that is so, giving 10/10 to a game with just about right graphics takes a lot of credibility out of the scoring system.

    I can easily understand that to some people this is not a problem and the game deserves a perfect score. All I'm saying is I disagree.

  • Penguinzoot #645 4 years ago

    Review written by a Halo fan [...]

    That really had me laughing, well done ;-)


    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 09:42

  • Ace_McCloud #646 4 years ago

    "Halo is just a rip off of Unreal?"

    You what!? Halo's nothing like Unreal (other than it's an FPS). Unreal sure was a lot like Quake though...

    Why do so many hate Halo THIS much!?

    "...because it's over rated and unoriginal, and does nothing new bla bla bla..."

    Come on, that's all bollocks. PC guys, this is a console game, comparisons are pointless because lots of people prefer playing on a console.

    Halo was the first co-op game I've ever played on a console. Halo 3 will be the first 4 player co-op game I've ever played. It's the first co-op game you can play competitively (campaign scoring). The first FPS with saved films. Forge.

    Why do you all hate all this stuff so much?

  • Ace_McCloud #647 4 years ago

    ...and the graphics argument: As I understand it they sacrificed top of the line graphics for massive battles with loads of enemies, vehicles, explosions etc... in other words, for gameplay. Why is that so bad? Or would you prefer another generic corridor based FPS?

  • Sebo #648 4 years ago

    @vin

    "That's the hardcore Miyamoto contingent.

    They simply whine about the death of 2D, the purported molestation of their favorite dead franchises, and their inability to discover or enjoy ANY modern gaming simply because the majority of the titles aren't on their console of choice or come stamped with characters from their favorite old-school franchise."

    Where the hell do you get that from? I'd consider myself among the hardcore Miyamoto contingent and I can't wait to play Halo 3. I can't wait to play Metal Gear Solid 4 either. And I really enjoyed Bioshock.

    Also equally looking forward to Mario Sunshine, Nights and Pro Evo. There's good games on all consoles right now.

    I'm glad I can enjoy all consoles, rather than be a Nintendo-hating troll like yourself.

  • Xerx3s #649 4 years ago

    mash the x button: Before you shout your stupidity, you might want to check your facts before looking like the total moron that you seem to be right now.

  • Xerx3s #650 4 years ago

    Why do so many hate Halo THIS much!?

    Because it is popular.
    Because people think it's cool to hate something popular.
    Because they are sad, sad people.

    Oh and before people come with the 'But I played it and I just don't like it' defence, people who don't like it don't spend time spamming all Halo threads about how shit the game is. Haters do. If you posted one or more times saying how shit this game must be and how bribed the reviewers must be, wake up: you are a sad hater without a life.

    Halo was the first co-op game I've ever played on a console. Halo 3 will be the first 4 player co-op game I've ever played. It's the first co-op game you can play competitively (campaign scoring). The first FPS with saved films. Forge.

    That's not true. Many games - like UT'99 - had saved films completely similar to this. I was already saving games from clan matches way back in 2k. I was also already playing 8p coop in Unreal 1 and the likes of that. It will not offer anything significant new but it will give the player a fantastic experience.

    EDIT 2: Yes that was 8p online people in '98, it's not really that hard to do.
    Edited by 2 at 25/09/07 @ 10:09

  • Vin #651 4 years ago

    "I love a Miyamato game, and i have a Wii. But I am also itching to get Halo 3, and feel by sheer weight of great games, the 360 is by far the best console ( for me at the moment), so i have to disagree with you Vin"

    You're the casual gamer - unconcerned with sales or memorizing all the names of Metal Gear Solid bosses.

    And it's the best way to be, champ.

  • Dizzy #652 4 years ago

    "Where the hell do you get that from? I'd consider myself among the hardcore Miyamoto contingent and I can't wait to play Halo 3"

    Same here! A good game is a good game... I love the 2D old ones and I love Halo. Been a gamer (and games dev) since the 80s ;) So casual my ass!
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 10:05

  • DjFlex52 #653 4 years ago

    "If you posted one or more times saying how shit this game must be and how bribed the reviewers must be, wake up: you are a sad hater without a life."

    I agree...especially on EG where most all reviewers are answering questions in their review threads. Then to think that they've been bribed to give a high score is ridiculous.

  • bauhaus #654 4 years ago

    this getting a 10/10 EG score has won me £10 from a mate who reckoned they would punish it with 8/10


    nutter, easiest tenner i`ve ever taken

  • Ace_McCloud #655 4 years ago

    Xerx3s: I meant on a console...

  • czrsink #656 4 years ago

    I don't understand how Halo 3 can possibly bag the same score as Bioshock. There's no comparison between the two - Bioshock would easily be a contender for game of the year, wouldn't it?

    The review was critical of Halo 3 in parts, enough surely to reduce the score somewhat? I don't understand what this obsession with Halo is tbh, surely it's just pure hype?

  • peteb #657 4 years ago

    Damned if you do...damned if you don't.

  • JackyB #658 4 years ago

    @ Vin. I guess I am pretty casual these days. Not out of choice necessarily! Committments just get in the way of gaming. Take this for example. Tomo night instead of rushing home with Halo 3, I am going to my girlfriend's nan's for dinner. lol. I do still have an unhealthy passion for Mario though ;)

  • miiiguel #659 4 years ago

    Haters, go home or change your speech to something less dramatic. It's useless, Masterchief took Manhattan, and he's coming to London.

    Trakerz: can't you read the review ? you must try to guess ?
    http://ww w.eurogamer.net/article.php?art... and take a look once more:
    http://ww w.eurogamer.net/article.php?art...
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 10:19

  • Vin #660 4 years ago

    "I'm glad I can enjoy all consoles, rather than be a Nintendo-hating troll like yourself.".

    Get this chuckles - I don't like fanboys who can't find equally quality experiences in the work of other companies, and who dismiss games they'd probably love if they were exclusive on their console of choice. My fandom lies along genre and subgenre lines, not consoles or developers.

    Learn to read.

  • Sebo #661 4 years ago

    @vin

    Learn to write.

  • JackyB #662 4 years ago

    @ Vin. I just had a thought. If I was truly a casual gamer, I wouldn't be on here would I? ;)

  • The-Bodybuilder #663 4 years ago

    >"why do people buy/like this??? "

    Because it got 10/10 numbskull.

  • sanctusmortis #664 4 years ago

    Which bit of "the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down" do people not get?

  • JackyB #665 4 years ago

    "Which bit of "the flaws are so minor that even the most churlish of reviewers would be hard pressed to mark the game down" do people not get? "

    The "mark the game down" bit

  • oldfruit #666 4 years ago

    @JackyB
    Take a good look at your Girlfriends Nan and take note - that's what she will look like in a short few years, and ask yourself this? Do you want to s**g that? or go and finish the fight?

    Another will written review from EG. I was surprised at the score (pleasantly). I loved Halo 1 - the key thing being that it was my introduction to that generation of consoles after a gaming void of a few years. I was not so impressed with Halo 2 (probably bored of xbox shooters by then!). I am hoping this will re-kindle the passion.

  • Velios #667 4 years ago

    I JUST FINISHED THE FIGHT!

  • JackyB #668 4 years ago

    Old fruit. she looks like a bit of Old Fruit, if you will

  • zoidberg #669 4 years ago

    so, does this reach 1000 or not?

  • JackyB #670 4 years ago

    Owen-B looks like some has intercepted the fight, and is fighting your battles for you as we speak

  • lambtron #671 4 years ago

    "Owen-B looks like some has intercepted the fight, and is fighting your battles for you as we speak"

    Probably those thieving gits at the Post Office.

  • JackyB #672 4 years ago

    Lambtron.
    Thats what i was intimating. They are probably loading it up in their PS2 disc drive right now

  • thinred #673 4 years ago

    Ace_McCloud:

    "...and the graphics argument: As I understand it they sacrificed top of the line graphics for massive battles with loads of enemies, vehicles, explosions etc... in other words, for gameplay. Why is that so bad? Or would you prefer another generic corridor based FPS?"

    No, I wouldn't, and no, it isn't so bad to sacrifice some graphics quality for gameplay. My point is that in that case, it's not SO good as to deserve a 10/10 score.

    For those who keep saying this, not everyone who disagrees with the score is a troll, a HALO hater or a console fanboy, you now? I read the review and it just doesn't add up to 10/10. I'm not one of those who think this score should be impossible to get for any game as it would mean perfection.

    I just think it should only be awarded to very special games with top notch gameplay and overall experience, AND graphics that do not suffer as a consequence. For all I know, HALO might well be a 9.5/10, but definitely not a 10/10.

  • crazyhorse174 #674 4 years ago

    Are people still in here arguing about this?

  • fightman #675 4 years ago

    the reviewer for this must have loads of M$ money covered in shit from when they stuffed it all up his arse for the 10/10

  • Sebo #676 4 years ago

    You know I'm definitely thinking this is a 9.5 and not a ten..............

    ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????

    /Checks in to nearest mental clinic

  • Sebo #677 4 years ago

    Lumines on PSP is a 10/10 for me

  • monkie_king #678 4 years ago

    @fightman: cognitive dissonance, much?

  • DjFlex52 #679 4 years ago

    I just think it should only be awarded to very special games with top notch gameplay and overall experience, AND graphics that do not suffer as a consequence. For all I know, HALO might well be a 9.5/10, but definitely not a 10/10.

    @thinred

    Well, if Halo 3 isn't a very special CONSOLE game then please name one for us.
    All consoles games make graphical sacrifices in some way or another.
    It's not a pc. There is no perfect game, only great or innovative games that deserve a 10. There is no perfect movie but there are loads of 4 star movies.

  • DNM #680 4 years ago

    "There does appear to be a trend at the moment towards big releases getting big scores, then us playing the game and collectively ending up slightly disappointed. "

    That's because you're shelling out your own cash for it and not pandering to the review copy given. :)

  • Dizzy #681 4 years ago

    >DjFlex52

    WTF are you talking about? Make some sense.. or at the very least some whole sentences.

  • JackyB #682 4 years ago

    "Why do people keep talking about Bioshock?. Yes it has a amazing atmosphere, but the gameplay itself isn't anything special. I've finished it twice and have no desire to replay it again."

    I enjoyed the gameplay a lot. The combat was a bit weak in terms of shooting but ho hum. It made up for it with the freedom of tactics it afforded you

  • FooAtari #683 4 years ago

    Very late to the party.

    But for its worth... I'll be picking my copy of Halo 3 tomorrow morning. I enjoyed Halo, didn't enjoy Halo 2. I hear Halo 3 is better than both so decided to pick it up.

    I'm sure it's a solid and enjoyable game, but from reading the review I don't see how it could be rewarded a 10. The very fact that he said the game felt unfinished should bring the score down, regardless of how good the rest of the game is. A game that feels even a little unfinished should never get a 10. And that's not mentioning the various other faults, however small Halo 3 seems to have.

    I don't doubt it could be a very good game. But IMO too many faults were mentioned to warrant a 10... I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

  • Sebo #684 4 years ago

    @NickM

    You must have taken some pleasure out of bioshock to have played it through twice.

  • zehoo #685 4 years ago

    One would have thought the non-existent plot line of halo would have dragged it's feet pulling it to an 8-9.

  • Caimbeul #686 4 years ago

    Hmm, I was expecting a breach of the 1000 mark by now.

    thank god its all over.

  • ruckus #687 4 years ago

    Is there a demo coming out?

  • lambtron #688 4 years ago

    "Lambtron.
    Thats what i was intimating. They are probably loading it up in their PS2 disc drive right now"

    lol

  • monkie_king #689 4 years ago

    @fooatari: not to defend the score or anything, but Shinji mentioned elsewhere that it's worth a solid 9/10 for the campaign, and the 10 takes into account all the MP/Live stuff.

    Knowing that, the "unfinished" comments make more sense--they apply to the campaign stuff. I seem to recall EG doing separate SP/Live reviews for Halo2, that's probably not a bad policy.

  • Twincoil #690 4 years ago

    "I seem to recall EG doing separate SP/Live reviews for Halo2, that's probably not a bad policy."

    I think it's a bloody silly policy. The game is the game is the game.

    One review FTW.

  • Trakerz #691 4 years ago

    miiiguel : the main thing is that from what i have seen so far the game is not something that would blow you away saying...OMG i`ve never seen/played anything like this.

    The reviewer`s idea would be that the game is perfectly balanced and that it looks familiar to the ones before with a twist...of course in terms of visual looks familiar because it has the same crappy boxy low details design and because it stays true to the original(cashin) style and with some balancing it deserves a 10...

    Most people would be bored out of they`r minds if the game plays like i`ve seen in all the videos...this is why i`m wondering how many FPS games did he played before halo

  • Dizzy #692 4 years ago

    >this is why i`m wondering how many FPS games did he played before halo

    Almost certainly more that you m8.

  • afghan_jones #693 4 years ago

    @headbog.

    no, every game should be assigned a color which most represents its content then the reader can just pick whatever colour they like best and only play those games.

  • Trakerz #694 4 years ago

    Dizzy:...so his that easy to impress huh?

  • Agent_Llama #695 4 years ago

    "Wii best selling machine, very good for kids and family
    360: best game machine by a 1000 country miles. Tons of 8s, 9s, 10s game
    PS3: 600 bucks to play what? a broken game with dragons......ahahahahah, pathetic. "

    /weeps. /cries. /is bored.

  • Agent_Llama #696 4 years ago

    Despite reaching the final run in Halo last night for the first time, throwing the controller down at the horror of it, I have re-pre-ordered number 3. Gah, so fickle.

  • crazyhorse174 #697 4 years ago

    Does anyone actually care any more?!

    This thread will continue to grow, until it consumes all of the entire internet bandwidth of the world and the world wide web collapse under the weight.

    Then we will all devolve (de-evolve!?) to living in caves again, free from the enslavement of technology!

    And you know what? There will still be dicks arguing over whose rock is better.

    And probably a few more still arguing over why in ancient history, Halo 3 got a 10/10...
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 12:51

  • monkie_king #698 4 years ago

    @Llama: it's not so bad once you get the knack of it, took me about 10 goes to get it the first time though. Don't stop for FoeHammer, use up and down on the right stick to control how much air you get, don't flip the warthog, and you should make it with plenty time to spare.

    That said, it still only takes one grunt getting lucky with a plasma grenade to really spoil your day.

  • Latin #699 4 years ago

    Yeah screw Foehammer


    *spoiler* she dies anyway *spoiler*


    Just go ahead, the last part is a pain in the ass on harder difficulties, if you've got time, man the chaingun and do as much damage as possible, then throw a load of grenades before you, then pace it.

  • mash the x button #700 4 years ago

    Expect:
    Son of Halo
    Halo v Gears
    It isn't over till it's over!!!!

  • monkie_king #701 4 years ago

    *meta-spoiler* apparently she survives in the novels *meta-spoiler*

    /swears he only heard this 3rd-hand

  • VMerken #702 4 years ago

    Samus says hi =)

  • Scrumhalf #703 4 years ago

    This may have been asked - but I can't see it. Does anyone know if Halo 3 is region-protected - I am in the US this week and it is cheaper to bring a copy back. But I can 't find out if it would work or not?

    Thanks

  • silver-jon #704 4 years ago

    @drumm23 - yes yes, he's very very talented. What a genius (yawn). If he'd done that with(say) Aston Villa I'd be impressed. Mourinho is the figurehead of a team of backroom staff and he makes smart decisions. Like Richard Branson he has the enviable position of having one of the most talented teams in the world from which to choose his starting 11.
    If he really was a genius then he'd have found a way to get the most from the likes of Ballack and Schevchenko who seemed to be world class players before joining Chelsea.
    btw: I don't support any team. I enjoy watching football with an objective point of view because I have no preference where anyone finishes or what the scores are at 4:45 on a Saturday.

    @anyone bothered to read the rest . . .
    All I was saying, returning to my original point, is that the reviewer has awarded Halo 3 a score of 10. If they'd scored it 9, I and many others would still have gone out and spent our £40. But they scored it a 10, and that's bizarrely annoyed some people who (you'll like this) don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Halo 3 because they've neither played it nor the previous incarnations !

    To put my perspective in context - I thought the original Halo was a sound 10. A perfectly rounded game with immersive backstory, brilliantly executed, and with loads of clever touches. Halo 2 I was very disappointed with for reasons I have repeated numerous times. I'd score it 8/10, maybe even dribbling down to a 7. So long as halo 3 was not a 7 or 8 then I'm happy.

    Do the same arguments crop up, by the way, when Civ 4 is released to wide critical acclaim despite doing nothing *really* new ?
    Jeez, it's like someone has reviewed Catwoman and given it 10/10.
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 14:34

  • Les #705 4 years ago

    Good review.

    Shame some idiots try to turn this thread in yet again another flame war. Ah well, good starting point to beef up my 'ignore' list... ;)

  • fightman #706 4 years ago

    the reviewer for this must have loads of M$ money covered in shit from when they stuffed it all up his arse for the 10/10

  • oldergamer #707 4 years ago

    @nick

    I don't think EG's biased at all in their reviews... they just flamed the console wars for more business and it's now out of hand in the forums. It's too bad. Kotaku forums remind me of what EG's were.

  • Penguinzoot #708 4 years ago

    Fightman:

    Repeating the same line over and over does not make it any truer or funnier than the first time you said it.
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 15:19

  • Les #709 4 years ago

    "I should have mentioned somewhere in the article that the first person to claim that 10/10 means a game is perfect is going to have their trousers filled with vicious wasps."

    +1

  • Agent_Llama #710 4 years ago

    "They liked it when Eurogamer was edgy and gave games like Halo and Gears 8/10. Now they see 360 games like Bioshock and Halo 3 get 10/10 and they worry. "

    I don't think this is necessarily true - what I think *is* noticeable is EG jumping on the hype-wagon more and more, whether this is because there is money changing hands or because they're aiming for wider, more casual market, who knows. The gushing reviews of the like of BioShock remind me of Official Magazine fanboyism, and although we've yet to play it, the score and text of the Halo review simply don't tally (although the scoring system is a road well-trodden and done to death, so let's not dwell on it).
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 15:22

  • Xerx3s #711 4 years ago

    I just think it should only be awarded to very special games with top notch gameplay and overall experience, AND graphics that do not suffer as a consequence. For all I know, HALO might well be a 9.5/10, but definitely not a 10/10.

    And htf would you know that it's not a 10/10? Sorry but I'd rather take a score given by a pro who played the game rather than someone who thinks that it 'definitely isn't a 10/10' without playing it.

  • jiveguy #712 4 years ago

    Are you "money changing hands" guys for real? Does it never cross your mind that the reviewers on these games think "Hey, that was fucking awesome, 10!". I mean, surely you like games too? And surely you've played a game that you thought was worthy of top marks but other people didn't agree. Did money change hands there? Or did you play a game and love it while others didn't?

    Think.

  • Les #713 4 years ago

    "what I think *is* noticeable is EG jumping on the hype-wagon more and more"

    +1

    EG has definitely been getting worse over the years. But still, there aren't any good online alternatives AFAIK.

  • monkie_king #714 4 years ago

    @JiveGuy: there's a pretty sound psychological precedent at work here:
    [link url=htt p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
    ]http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_d...[/link]

    "In simple terms, it can be the filtering of information that conflicts with what you already believe, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce your beliefs."

    Sound like anybody here on the forums? ;)

  • Les #715 4 years ago

    "However, you will only bag a bargain if you buy a copy of the game while actually visiting the United States, otherwise, warns Cocker, you’ll be better off buying it in this country once you take into account the cost of delivery from the US."

    Bull. Just visit [link url=http://www.movietyme.com.]http://www.movietyme.com.[/lin k] Free worldwide shipping! :)

  • JackyB #716 4 years ago

    The amount of misinformation when the mainstream media gets involved in gaming is disturbing

  • Sebo #717 4 years ago

    Halo 3 for £30, not a bad deal that

  • Azazel #718 4 years ago

    Just to put things in perspective: Quakeworld is still the best.

  • DrDamn #719 4 years ago

    Personal opinion is that a 10/10 by no means has to be flawless for reasons many others have pointed out before. My definition would be a game for which 9/10 does not seem enough, it has a special feel to it. It also doesn't have to be groundbreaking in a significant way either, if it takes elements other games have done before and hones it to near perfection in one package then a 10 is an acceptable score.

    On the graphical front I think a big design decision was taken here to not compete with the overall effect of stuff like Gears and concentrate on clarity and high FPS. You can't have both. In my opinion the right choice was made. It needs a high and consistent frame rate more than it needs to compete on a "still" level with Gears/Bioshock.

    Just a little cat amongst the pigeons as I finish though. EG Scoring Policy

    To me this policy fits the review perfectly fine with the exception of "It will be something truly groundbreaking". I'm not convinced yet Halo 3 is, but in my mind that should still not stop it from getting a 10.

  • andromeda #720 4 years ago

    almost there people, keep going XD

  • Les #721 4 years ago

    "To me this policy fits the review perfectly fine with the exception of "It will be something truly groundbreaking"."

    Must have been some leftover from the old days... Otherwise no next gen game could score a 10.

  • ChrisTop #722 4 years ago

    834th!!!
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 16:43

  • The-Bodybuilder #723 4 years ago

    Who would've known that the masn responsible for the "ps3 t3h next g3n" saga would be the same man responsible for single-handedly destroying the "anti-halo hype".

  • DrDamn #724 4 years ago

    @Les
    True - very little would fit that. Even the stuff which is truely groundbreaking a lot of it has sizable enough flaws in other areas too.

  • The-Bodybuilder #725 4 years ago

    Come on people, lets reach the 1000 mark to solidify this thread into legendary status.

  • spookyzombie #726 4 years ago

    This'll only be £34.99 in Blockbuster (standard edition). Just in case there's actually anybody out there who hasn't already bought it!

  • Dermoth #727 4 years ago

    Mike Dean's performance at Old Trafford last Sunday was disgraceful.

  • bushwod #728 4 years ago

    Has anyone else got the Halo theme going round and round in their head.

    I so can't concentrate on work today, just keep wondering "will it be there waiting for me when I get home, has the tin box fitted through the letter box, will it be BLODDY scratched".

    All together now:

    'duhh,
    duh da duhh,
    duh da da-da-da duhh'

  • FooAtari #729 4 years ago

    All together now:

    'duhh,
    duh da duhh,
    duh da da-da-da duhh'

    That made me think of the Emporer's March(?) in Star Wars

  • Kafeen #730 4 years ago


    Has anyone else got the Halo theme going round and round in their head.

    I so can't concentrate on work today, just keep wondering "will it be there waiting for me when I get home, has the tin box fitted through the letter box, will it be BLODDY scratched".

    All together now:

    'duhh,
    duh da duhh,
    duh da da-da-da duhh'

    Even reading that I still can't remember the theme. It was only 2 days ago I was playing Halo 2 aswell.

  • agparrot #731 4 years ago

    So, not much mention in the review of the online co-op - seems like a nice feature that is being touted for things like Haze, and would be interesting to learn a little about the two new 'elite' characters and how/where/if they fit into the mythos. I understand it can be difficult in the interests of spoiler-free reviews.

    Am going to buy H3 and get online and play it - in matches and in co-op, but am curious about if I can do this 2-player splitscreen at the same time as others via live.

    Hopefully going to love the game - I always seem to be more forgiving than most reviews for my 'personal' game scores, so sadly that only leaves me the option of giving Halo 3 an '11' if I turn out loving it, if I follow some of the score-reasoning displayed in these threads.

    Not sure I can be arsed to drag myself down to Tesco at midnight - am on the verge of finishing Bioshock and really want to get it out of the way first.

  • miiiguel #732 4 years ago

    My copy came scratched. Good thing I read about it and checked at the store. Internet is great.

    on the funny news: Portugal is really Sony-land,

    Me: "do you have Halo 3 ?"
    Clerk (with a sad face): "yes, but only for the XBox..."
    Me (laughing out loud): "yes, I know"
    Clerk: "ah, ok..., we had a few people coming in asking it for the Playstation"
    Edited by 2 at 25/09/07 @ 17:53

  • FooAtari #733 4 years ago

    That's because it isn't that great Kafeen. I cant remember it myself. But its been three years since I last played a Halo game.

    Online co-op should be good Agparrot. Gears worked very well, was a blast with my mate on the hardest difficulty. Hopefully a few more bad dudes will get thrown in to toughen things up on Halo co-op. I think Co-op can make the worst games fun!

    As far as I'm aware I think 4 player online co-op with two 360's is possible... Much like you could split screen online in PGR2 (not sure about 3?)

  • deaner #734 4 years ago

    I remember when Edge gave Mario 64 ten-out-of-ten.

    Even at the time the impartial gamer said "Shut up you nonces! There are games in the same genre that have more enjoyable gameplay, are better designed, better implementated and have stacks more innovation within."

    The lesson unlearnt by Edge seems tragically to have fallen by the wayside for other reviewers too.

    The only question remaining is whether it's pandering to fanboyism, or just a lack of perspective.

  • monkie_king #735 4 years ago

    @deaner: uh, what? please could you name some of those Mario64-beating games for me, my memory is obviously failing...

  • Eighthours #736 4 years ago

    I remember when Edge gave Mario 64 ten-out-of-ten.

    Even at the time the impartial gamer said "Shut up you nonces! There are games in the same genre that have more enjoyable gameplay, are better designed, better implementated and have stacks more innovation within."

    Are you on crack?

  • dryden555 #737 4 years ago

    reviews are raving about Halo's multiplayer, which I have no interest in. playing deathmatch with a console controller and lame auto-aim doesnt make for a 10/10 rated FPS. Whenever the price goes down, I'll pick it up. I can wait.

  • miiiguel #738 4 years ago

    "Halo 3 is region free. "

    Oh NO! I bought a NTSC LE, and a PAL Reg one.
    Take that for beeing a 30 years old going on 17 dude!

  • miiiguel #739 4 years ago

    "EG has definitely been getting worse over the years. But still, there aren't any good online alternatives AFAIK."

    It'll get better when MGS comes out... . Oh wait, perhaps that's not EG improving/worsening it's the games for each platform.

  • drumm23 #740 4 years ago

    silver jon,

    I don't support Chelski at all but forget that - he won the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WITH PORTO.

    That is an 11/10.

    Ballack & Schevchenko came for the ££££££££££££.

  • Calgon #741 4 years ago

    All because people think Bungie delivered this time... made them look right jackasses after all they were saying up untill the reviews, know-it-all haters are left now taking swipes left right and centre because of it...("Im deleting my whole favourites list now they are all judasses";) did any of us expect them to take it well?

    Did we f*** - when do trolls ever admit when they are wrong? They will repeat it many times in the hopes it will stick "its far overrated"(troll thought process>> *maybe if a few of us repeat it we can make it look like alot of people agree with us rather than the select minority that we are, even though didnt really give it any chance to begin with, we just hate halo and M$ that much*) and in about 2 years they'll be like... "see nobody is still talking about it, must have got bored huh? huh?, told ya - told ya!." You know this to be true! :D

  • silver-jon #742 4 years ago

    No, you're right. To be honest that is a decent achievement, Drumm23. On a par (I suppose) as Benitez getting Liverpool to the semis, the final, and winning the Champions League in the last 4 (?) years with only one genuine superstar in the team. I'm probably being too dismissive.

    Anyway, back to the Halo flaming . . . :-)

  • Dermoth #743 4 years ago

    If Liverpool hired Mourinho tomorrow, you'd be gutted then?

    Of all the bollocks spouted in this thread, that just about takes the biscuit. BENITEZ LOL.

  • evilboo #744 4 years ago

    Only losers write about whether games they haven't played on consoles they don't own deserve the mark somebody they don't know has subjectively given in a review.

    This is a good day for games - Halo's on the news! People are playing a stunning new game that for once lived up to the hype! Rejoice!

  • bdc #745 4 years ago

    HALO 3.... WINS!

  • rob177467 #746 4 years ago

    Did anyone see the terrible coverage on bbc news?

  • martynmac #747 4 years ago

    Did anyone see the terrible coverage on bbc news?

    Yes, it was hilarious. They showed some Killzone 2 footage on the PS3 and claimed it was Halo3!

  • The-Bodybuilder #748 4 years ago

    >"Yes, it was hilarious. They showed some Killzone 2 footage on the PS3 and claimed it was Halo3!"

    ROFL.

  • muftak #749 4 years ago

    one thing bothers me this game takes less 6 hours to finish it in heroic

    so how the fuck did this score higher than heavenly sword and doesn't have anyone moaning its way to short like EVERYONE who didn't own a ps3 kept mentioning ,

    Complete BS review

  • BathiBoi #750 4 years ago

    http://ww w.eurogamer.de/article.php?arti...

  • rob177467 #751 4 years ago

    ''so how the fuck did this score higher than heavenly sword and doesn't have anyone moaning its way to short like EVERYONE who didn't own a ps3 kept mentioning''

    because HS isnt very good and this is

  • rob177467 #752 4 years ago

    ''one thing bothers me this game takes less 6 hours to finish it in heroic''

    you havent played the game have you

  • dk_rare #753 4 years ago

    Almost sounds as good as Metroid on the Wii

  • doragor #754 4 years ago

    I'm salivating for this

  • Les #755 4 years ago

    "People are playing a stunning new game that for once lived up to the hype!"

    It's apparently a stunning game but it can never, ever live up to it's hype... ;)

  • Kafkaesque #756 4 years ago

    The IGN video review said the single player game is flawed which drops it a point, but the multiplayer is worth 11/10 which makes up for it lol. I think that's the premise this top marks score is based on. Was still surprised at the score though, it doesn't seem to reflect the overall review.

    I was never a fan of the Halo 2 SP game but the co-op on this should be fun. Let's be honest though, for most people who have Live this is about the MP experience. I've ignored all the hype, I'm just getting this like any other game, hopefully it will be an enjoyable romp, it's all I can ask.
    Edited by 1 at 25/09/07 @ 22:19

  • Xerx3s #757 4 years ago

    muftak: How do you know you can play this game in six hours? Most people I've heard used at least 15 hours. That and the replayability value of the halo games is infinitely higher than stuff like HS because it has coop & MP.

  • Xerx3s #758 4 years ago

    I'm seriously disappointed in you people though. GoW got atleast 1200 comments. :/

  • Agent_Llama #759 4 years ago

    Woo, just finished Halo 1. For the first time.

  • sajtion #760 4 years ago

    in five years it will be most hated game of all time and master chief will be gay

  • ResidentKnievel #761 4 years ago

    Lets keep posting how we want this thread to get over the 1000 comments mark so it can go over the 1000 comments mark

  • drumm23 #762 4 years ago

    Deaner:
    I remember when Edge gave Mario 64 ten-out-of-ten.

    Even at the time the impartial gamer said "Shut up you nonces! There are games in the same genre that have more enjoyable gameplay, are better designed, better implementated and have stacks more innovation within."

    --------
    Over 800 posts but your one, Deaner, is the most retarded. Good man. Tell us, how does that make you feel?

    -1/10 for Deaner, the crackhead.

  • smelly #763 4 years ago

    "in five years it will be most hated game of all time "

    in a year we'll have the pc version.. and then the real reviews scores will come.

  • JDub #764 4 years ago

    Surprised at the 10 - Thought it would get a 9 from the review.

    Excellent game, but a little overrated IMO.
    Have both main competing consoles, so no fanboyism there...a possible buy....maybe....possibly... :)

    /backs out slowly after obligatory contribution

  • Carrybagma #765 4 years ago

    \waves at BathiBoi
    Nice to see you making a visit to EG.UK... :o)

    9/10 on EG.DE? Oops...

  • zehoo #766 4 years ago

    lol just saw a news clip on the bbc news about halo3 saying it was "blockbuster" but the clip they were using to show it was the killzone 2 intro lol.

  • citizenHUNTER #767 4 years ago

    On an almost completely unrelated note... there seems to be an update for the 360 however everytime I try to download it it says there's a connection error and thus not allowed to sign into Xbox Live. As you can assume, same connection and 'this' is working fine. I just wanted to download the Skate demo but seems I'm Xbox Live-less for now. Imagine if I had just got hold of Halo 3 and wanted to play online. Oh dear Microsoft, please sort this out for me :(

    *tootles off to Xbox.com to 'hopefully' find the update can be burnt to a disc instead...*

  • smelly #768 4 years ago

    Personally i aint gonna bother with this game.. i'm curious to get it because of the reviews.. But I know deep down i'll not like it (dont play online games, so am only interested in single player).

    So i'm gonna buy skate instead.

  • smelly #769 4 years ago

    "That and the replayability value of the halo games is infinitely higher than stuff like HS because it has coop & MP."


    Hmm.. wonder if the same logic will be applied when EG reviews Metroid 3?

  • MyPointIs #770 4 years ago

    A shooter?? In a console??

    It'll never work.

  • Genji #771 4 years ago

    I may buy this when it comes out in Japan. Wouldn't play it multiplayer, though.

    On another note: Woohoo! We're almost to 900, people! Keep it up!

    Incidentally, I offer free dope and massages to tired posters. Come to the latest virtual console thread for good, relaxing times!
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 06:30

  • Fab4 #772 4 years ago

    Fucking M$..they knew Halo 3 would put a load on their servers...did they do anything in advance to avoid problems? Did they fuck...I now hate Halo more than ever.

  • CannonAnBall #773 4 years ago

    I didn't like Halo 2 so I wasn't expecting much from 3 but I can say that I am loving playing it so far. It's a slow starter so I suggest you don't spit your dummy out of the pram after the first level! Give it time.

    The multiplayer aspect of the game will be where its at to be honest and the improvements are there for all to see. Had some decent online games so far.

    I suggest people play the game first and then question the review - I always find that helps. It's daft to argue about a review against a reviewer that has played through the game when you haven't done the same thing. The conspiracy theories are hilarious, bit like the f*ckin x-files.

  • Les #774 4 years ago

    "Hmm.. wonder if the same logic will be applied when EG reviews Metroid 3?"

    There is no logic in reviews. E.g. it's funny to read the Resistance one again after having read this one... ;)

    "I'm seriously disappointed in you people though. GoW got atleast 1200 comments. :/"

    Halo 3 is just a good game. Gears was just good (technically speaking) graphics and there was shit around on 360 at that time. Was bound to be more controversial.

  • adamamosa #775 4 years ago

    Am I the only person who thinks the text in the review is actually more important than the final score?
    From reading the review it seems that:

    the graphics are flawed
    the presentation is flawed (later on)
    the level design is flawed
    the campaign is generally flawed

    It got no negative comments regarding the gameplay which suggests that it got 10 out of 10 pretty much based on gameplay alone, dispite its downsides in other areas. And isnt gameplay the most important thing??



  • BathiBoi #776 4 years ago

    @Carrybagma

    sometimes im here too...

  • Les #777 4 years ago

    ... "Am I the only person who thinks the text in the review is actually more important than the final score?"

    No. But then, why complain about the score? ;)

    Reviewers play a game and based on how enjoyable they think the experience was they assign a score. Then they write a piece of prose to rationalise the score they’ve already given. Reviews are always highly subjective. Read the text, preferably of many reviews, and make up your own mind.

  • Xerx3s #778 4 years ago

    Smelly: That's about the third or fourth time that you told people in this thread 'how shit it is' and how 'you can't be bothered with this'. We get it now. Go enjoy your skate game and let the rest of us enjoy this game will you? ¬_¬

  • Xerx3s #779 4 years ago

    Fucking M$..they knew Halo 3 would put a load on their servers...did they do anything in advance to avoid problems? Did they fuck...I now hate Halo more than ever.

    Erm, yeah, they did. It's explained in their blogs. From where I'm sitting, everything seems to be working fine.

    EDIT: Spoke too soon, was just cut off.
    EDIT2: And it's back up again. :/
    Edited by 2 at 26/09/07 @ 08:44

  • MrDo #780 4 years ago

    What is the cheapest shop to buy Halo 3 from today?
    Cheers

  • Les #781 4 years ago

    "We get it now. Go enjoy your skate game and let the rest of us enjoy this game will you? ¬_¬"

    Pot. kettle. black? ;)

  • Xerx3s #782 4 years ago

    Pot. kettle. black? ;)

    Ah, so I'm constantly in the skate threads saying how shit it is and how I'm not going to buy it? Nice to know.

  • Les #783 4 years ago

    "Ah, so I'm constantly in the skate threads saying how shit it is and how I'm not going to buy it? Nice to know."

    Not necessarily in the skate thread.

  • Santino #784 4 years ago

    MrDo i work in blockbuster, we do standard edition it for £34.99 or limited for £44.99

  • BathiBoi #785 4 years ago

    100 to go

  • MrDo #786 4 years ago

    Santino - Thanks:)

  • Xerx3s #787 4 years ago

    Not necessarily in the skate thread.

    What, you mean haze? I want that game. Ubi just doesn't want me to have that game.

  • Hunam #788 4 years ago

    I like cheese on toast alot: 9/10

  • afghan_jones #789 4 years ago

    @hunam

    I disagree. I have never eaten or even seen cheese on toast but somehow I find cheese on toast greasy and unappetising. You are clearly wrong. No way should it be 9/10, more like a 6 or 7. Everyone knows that Chicken Enchiladas look better and have better multiplayer.

  • SharkVLion #790 4 years ago

    EG 10/10 means NOTHING...

    Halo3 is average at best; it's definately not a 10/10

    I dont know what criteria EG uses with thier scoring system; Perhaps EG should publish this somewhere clear; also perhaps a breakdown of the score into sections; Graphics/Gameplay/Innovation/whatever/etc

    I see nothing new in Halo3; it's just like playing Halo1; The Graphics are OK but not mind blowing; there's zero innovation over the first and second titles. This game is just not up there at all and should probably have been awarded 7/10 or perhaps 8/10

    Playing the game last night and I found myself becoming bored; Spoke to a work colleague this morning and he said precisely the same thing.

    This game has been way too over hyped and I suspect brown envelopes have likley changed hands to be awarding 10/10 scores. Whatever happened to being honest and if necessary brutal with games journalism.

  • JackyB #791 4 years ago

    Afghan lol

  • JackyB #792 4 years ago

    Shark. If its "Average at best" why do you suggest it gets 8/10 you numpty?

  • Dixons #793 4 years ago

    And we're supposed to trust his belief that most of the high scores that Halo 3 has been receiving are somehow wrong. The guy can't even make his own mind up!

  • foamy #794 4 years ago

    My country sux. I went to three shops and no Halo 3 :( "Only tomorrow by noon." GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GIMME MA CORTANA ;_;

  • miiiguel #795 4 years ago

    Yeah, just checked SharkVLion posts history, and either he sucumbed to the power of Halo, or he's just the regular troll. Go play the Halo killer Heavenly Sword or better yet, Lair.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 11:08

  • DDevil #796 4 years ago

    @ SharkVLion

    Eurogamer's scoring policy is here. It's not hard to find bud!

    edit: To quote that page:

    A score of ten reflects a game that, within the reviewer's estimation, is something you must buy: this is the message we're trying to convey. On a basic level it's almost certainly the best quality game ever seen within the context of its genre, and that's why Eurogamer doesn't dish them out very often. A score of 10 usually applies to less than a trio of games in any given year.

    But all 10s are not born equal. For starters, you might consider that a ten in the RPG genre still isn't as appealing as an FPS that we scored an eight, or be mystified how we could score a football management game a nine when we only gave that survival-horror game you loved an eight. The best rule is to simply rate like with like, and use your own personal taste barometer to gauge whether the genre is of interest to you. Even so, if you're new to a particular genre then something scoring a ten is a very safe bet indeed. As a starting point, the message is you can't get a better game of this type.

    Let us make absolutely clear that a 10 is not and probably never will be "the perfect game". There's always something criticisable about a game, however small.

    A 10 will inspire the reviewer because it gets so many things correct. It will be something truly groundbreaking and aesthetically successful, be consistently enjoyable, get the balance right in difficulty terms, be technically very impressive, and be polished to a shine. It will leave the player in no doubt that they're playing something special right from the word go and will continue to inspire and amaze throughout. As we've said, this doesn't mean it's perfect, and we'll be sure to say where it goes wrong too, but maybe those niggles are just so minor that you can let it off. Look at anything under a microscope for long enough and you'll see the flaws. But would you kick a supermodel out of bed for farting?
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 11:10

  • Vin #797 4 years ago

    @ headbog;

    It's Smelly. Coherency isn't a prerequisite for his posts.

  • afghan_jones #798 4 years ago

    "would you kick a supermodel out of bed for farting? "

    Depends whether id finished with her or not.

  • miiiguel #799 4 years ago

    But would you kick a supermodel out of bed for farting?

    Priceless!

  • afghan_jones #800 4 years ago

    "would you kick a supermodel out of bed for farting? "

    Actually, Id probably just kick her out of bed before the rohypnol wore off.

  • miiiguel #801 4 years ago

    "Playing the game last night and I found myself becoming bored"

    Happened to my father as well - so your statistical work may be correct - he just wanted to go home and play with his car modelling toys. You could try that, or... Lair.

  • mash the x button #802 4 years ago

    Anyone seen the new Assasins Creed trailer - stunning!

    http://ww w.gametrailers.com/player/25538...

  • mattigan #803 4 years ago

    But would you kick a supermodel out of bed for farting?

    Depends what she had for dinner, if it was prawn vindaloo, half a pound of sprouts, washed down with a pint of petrol and a lighted match? Then most definately yes.

  • miiiguel #804 4 years ago

    smelly: the "no online thing", I had that approach, you know... my pace, my world, my shit..., but then I found quite nice people to play with and it's lotta fun actually. You should give it a try.

  • afghan_jones #805 4 years ago

    "would you kick a supermodel out of bed for farting? "

    I'd just give the bint a Dutch Oven.

  • Trakerz #806 4 years ago

    "It will be something truly groundbreaking and aesthetically successful, be consistently enjoyable, get the balance right in difficulty terms, be technically very impressive, and be polished to a shine. It will leave the player in no doubt that they're playing something special right from the word go and will continue to inspire and amaze throughout."

    i failed to see the groundbreaking,aesthetically and polished to a shine in halo 3...but hell, got 10 anyway

  • White_Westie #807 4 years ago

    Thought reviews where based on the editors OPINION....

    Yeah there is some fact there (obviously), but it is still an opinion at the end of the day, one mans poo is another mans gold and vice versa...

    Thats why there is so many sites with different scores as it is an opinion!

    My "opinion" is, try doing a little bit of game coding yourself for a couple of years and see if you can do any better.... thought not....

  • crazyhorse174 #808 4 years ago

    Playing the game last night and I found myself becoming bored; Spoke to a work colleague this morning and he said precisely the same thing.

    Big Issue sellers regard other Big Issue sellers as "colleagues" these days?!

  • layleeloo #809 4 years ago

    What a load of Hyped up tosh this is. SERIOSULY. After the marvel that was Bioshock im surprised Bungie had the knerve to release this game in this condition. There were better looking launch games than this. It looks at best a slightly polished version of Halo 2 which is just laughable in todays gaming climate. There are those of you who will say graphics dont make the game and you are right - i agree - but consdiiering this s just the same flippin game we've played twice before with NO progression what so ever - the least you think they coul ddo would be make it look Next Gen. What a waste of £40. Think I'll trade it in for any of the other great games out this week like Skate and Sega Rally. At least they are proper next gen games for a next gen console. Put Halo 3 on the original Xbox and id giveit 10/10. But on this brilliant machine - 6/10 at best.

  • Les #810 4 years ago

    "i failed to see the groundbreaking,aesthetically and polished to a shine in halo 3...but hell, got 10 anyway"

    Guess we all agree that Eurogamer's scoring policy needs an update... ;)
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 12:52

  • joephish #811 4 years ago

    Nearly at 1000 posts :-)

    Is this the longest comment thread yet?

  • mash the x button #812 4 years ago

    So Halo 3 is better than RFOM and Killzone 2 put together?

  • TonyCocaCola #813 4 years ago

    No i think bioshock and a couple of others have gone over a thousand before.

  • DrDamn #814 4 years ago

    Hey layleeloo your gamertag the same as your forum name? I presume so as I can't see it being all that popular. Anyhoo - no Halo 3 achievements then? In fact Live doesn't even register you as having played it. Strange you came to such an interesting conclusion based on no actually play then? I'll wager you never actually spent the £40 you claim to have wasted.


  • andromeda #815 4 years ago

    looking forward to SKATE!

  • The-Bodybuilder #816 4 years ago

    Why are people taking smelly seriously? He's a freaking ninty bumsandwich.

  • mash the x button #817 4 years ago

    You have to laugh, if Halo was a Nintendo or Sony exclusive, you'd have all the Xbot trolls saying how shit it was.
    It's a game is all.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 13:19

  • milddavid #818 4 years ago

    got this this morning... collectors edition... scratched to buggery!!

    nice DVD case design MS!

  • w00t #819 4 years ago

    /strokes helmet

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    I played Space Giraffe yesterday.

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  • gaystation3 #880 4 years ago

    1000!!!!

  • BobsUncle #881 4 years ago

    Well done. You cunt.

  • DrDamn #882 4 years ago

    You just used 5 minutes of your life to do that. Well done. You do realise you won't be post 1000 when you are on everyone's ignore list don't you?

  • L42yB #883 4 years ago

    *sigh*

    what a muppet

  • FlamingCarrot #884 4 years ago

    Probably typed that with the one hand not pulling himself off.

  • BobsUncle #885 4 years ago

    I just ignored him and it's gone down to 944 posts. So now it looks like I'm calling Headbog a cunt. You're not headbog, don't worry.

  • Yossarian #886 4 years ago

    1000 posts

    feels like victory

  • Dixons #887 4 years ago

    A worthless victory. What a complete, total and utter loser.

  • tobsen #888 4 years ago

    All I can say after watching actual game footage is, Halo 3 looks incredibly bland, generic and uninspired.

  • JackyB #889 4 years ago

    tobsen. What about after y'know, erm doing something crazy, and actually playing it?

  • lennon #890 4 years ago

    @Tobsen - Well all i can say after actually playing the game is you are incredibly wrong!

  • miiiguel #891 4 years ago

    Layloo, 12 days BEFORE halo came out:

    "Its the most over rated game ever. Its not crap - nor is it outstanding. Its just another FPS. People really do hype things up which lead to dissapointment - which happened with the Beta which was pants - and I cant say I would fork out more then £20 second hand for this. Chill out people - its only a bloody game - and an overrated one at that. "

    tobsen: yeah..., I know what you mean, those "actual game footage" can be misleading to such a degree. Take Lair for instance...

    "kiss and tell" is not really my thing, but...
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 14:10

  • layleeloo #892 4 years ago

    HEADBOG

    Hahahhaa you are classic! For one - yes< i do own a Wii, as I do a PS3, PSP, DS, and a 360. However the 360 was bought first and used most.

    Therefore I am more unbiased than yourself to see systems and games for what they really are. So being a "FAN" you can take you cock out of the centre of the disc and realise it for what it is. Mediocre Pap. So if YOU own a 360 - try and find some games with substace and get off the bandwagon you have so happuly jumped on like all the other lemmings! hahahaha

  • layleeloo #893 4 years ago

    miiiguel

    Yes - 12 days before the game came out. And I guess one part was hypocritical - I paid slightly more than £20 for it on monday to give it the benefit of the doubt - and my initial statement 12 days ago was correct. So good job I posted it really.

  • layleeloo #894 4 years ago

    DrDamn

    Unlike you I clearly have a brain - and when you get a game before its release date do you think im stupid enough to play it through live etc so you can get caught and banned? I think not my good man. However this time it would have been fine to play it connected up as Microsoft said they wernt gonna punish anyone for getting it early - however, remaining on the side of caution is always best. Im flattered I have a cyber stalker! haha

  • miiiguel #895 4 years ago

    what's that "lemming" shit ? And "substance" ? I can understand how it can be consider cool to bash a game millions play/buy/love, but I mean can we save the bollocks to impress the ladies ?
    Is not like you're gonna get lucky within the community when you say "ooooh I'm so da cool I only play text adventures games, ya know? With graphics the most I can play is Myst, and after that I must read 27 Engel's books".
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 14:28

  • Les #896 4 years ago

    Amazing that with adding just a few fools to the ignore list, the total amount of comments in this thread is reduced by 25%... Great feature!

  • layleeloo #897 4 years ago

    miiiguel

    Hahaha you are classic. With half the rubbish you mentioned which I have never even heard of - it shows who the anorak here is? Oh to be so blinded by lust for something surely isnt a good thing my friend. Open your eyes - then you can see they bleed at this overated attrocity. haha

  • mash the x button #898 4 years ago

    How many posters on here are in the pay of the big 3?
    Come on, own up!

  • jiveguy #899 4 years ago

    I am. All three of them. I'm ashamed of what I do for them, constantly. And that doesn't include my work as a forum plant.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 14:43

  • darc #900 4 years ago

    [link url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070925/ap_o n_hi_te/microsoft_halo_scratches
    ]http://ne ws.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070925/ap_o...[/link]

    "Legendary Version" LOL! People are actually paying $100+ for an 8-hour FPS? Madness.

  • Ace_McCloud #901 4 years ago

    Man this thread is crazy big. Anyone would think Sony had just anounced the PS3 has been delayed until march next year or something!

  • miiiguel #902 4 years ago

    "Legendary Version" LOL! People are actually paying $100+ for an 8-hour FPS? Madness."

    The collection item as no relation to the length of the game, and where did you come with the 8 hours ? Halo 2 is still played by thousands, and it's roughly the same size.

  • Calgon #903 4 years ago

    You know Im repeating myself here but whether you own and enjoy 360 or not(in most cases this is a lie or half truth... borrowed) the fact is Halo haters already made up their minds before it came out. The fact that some were so sad they bought it(rental?) just so they could say to themselves "yeah I was right they are just saying that because they are fanboys" is pretty funny. If you're in the minority --which the haters are by a huge margin-- then maybe its time to stop trying to convince yourselves and others you know better and accept your tastes are different(bad ;) ) and maybe follow your own advice (shut up and find some games you do like to talk about... theres still IP fanboyism and owning other consoles still doesnt mean you arent a loyal to one, its probably Metroid/Sony fanboys that are bitter of the greater draw Halo has... Im no Halo fan but Id prefer Halo 3 out of the exclusive First Person category).

    Edited by 4 at 26/09/07 @ 15:03

  • drumm23 #904 4 years ago

    Well, I've been ACTUALLY playing the game for the last few hours.

    Superb. The production values alone are just unbelievable. Congrats to Bungie for creating a wonderful game. If you've got a 360, load it up.


    10/10 is right on the button. Oh and "8 hours" my ass. This is going to gobble up WEEKS of my life!

  • Sebo #905 4 years ago

    Woah, Gaystation 3 just made me use ignore for the very first time. I'm a very tolerant person but that was just the saddest thing I have seen on these pages yet. Pathetic.

  • darc #906 4 years ago

    "where did you come with the 8 hours ?"

    I think, em, the review we're commenting on. But I could be mistaken, and yah obviously that's just the single-player campaign.

    I still think anyone paying that amount of money for a shooter has a screw loose. Obviously all IMO - if want to discuss further you can find me at the PS2 bargain bin looking for $10 gems. :)

  • crazyhorse174 #907 4 years ago

    This comments page is extremely boring now...

    Far, far too many people taking this all waay too seriously.

  • layleeloo #908 4 years ago

    headbog headbog.

    What an eloquent and intelligent person you are. haha. Your language clearly dictates your intelligence and penis size. I suggest you do your technological research. With no hard drive connected and no broadband cable in your machine when playing a game then sod all registers. haha. So - grow some brain cells and a cock before you start hurling abuse at people you narrow minded, obsequious imbecile.

  • darc #909 4 years ago

    ... just skimmed through the text and I find nothing to support my "8 hours" jab. Apologies, no idea where I got that... But it wasn't really essential to my point anyhow. And make no mistake, I'm not bashing the game, which I imagine is fantastic.

    crazyhorse, "too seriously" is a $130 Legendary Version, and to top the irony off, I think it's hilarious. :)

  • jiveguy #910 4 years ago

    Thats more like it! Now that someone has a thesaurus out this thread can only get better.

  • miiiguel #911 4 years ago

    "yah obviously that's just the single-player campaign."

    "Halo 3 Legendary edition" can be played online (I sure hope so!), and for way more than 8 hours.

    But somehow I can understand what you saying/feeling, I have a collegue that spends large amounts of money on "action figures", just to look at..., I find it funny, but I don't judge.
    Edited by 2 at 26/09/07 @ 15:08

  • layleeloo #912 4 years ago

    headbog

    Also read postes so you know whats going on - I know they wernt banning people for it ya nitwit - but before you find out such information and you get a game early it is wise to play on the side of caution by having nothing hooked up or connected which can register while you have a go. Dear oh dear. hahaha. How riled peopel get over such trivial little things haha. Peeps should get out more.

  • Tenaflyviper #913 4 years ago

    I really should use 'imbecile' more often in conversation, it's a quality put down

    Anyhoo, I bought Halo 3 just now and can't wait to play, yay!

    Fanboys are funny aren't they? God bless the interwebnet!

  • crazyhorse174 #914 4 years ago

    crazyhorse, "too seriously" is a $130 Legendary Version, and to top the irony off, I think it's hilarious. :)

    lol

  • Spydez #915 4 years ago

    I don't think he has played it either....

  • miiiguel #916 4 years ago

    "I don't think he has played it either...."

    I think that's obvious. Maybe he saw "actual game footage"...

  • layleeloo #917 4 years ago

    headbog

    There you go again with your intelligence. Surely it will do you harm one day. So i sound like someone running from anywhere? ahahaha. I think not. I like nothing more than heated debate but normally with people who have a vocabulary and intelligence of more than single sylable profanity. haha. And like I will do anything to please the likes of you?!? hahaha. Yes microsoft posted it a week before release - but some of us have a life - and know females to who'm we spend time, instead of trawling the net and xbox live for our thrills every day to find every sad little piece of information out. hahah. As I say - some people need to get out more. Wipe the jizz of your disc you so clearly have on there - and get back to playing your little game. haha

  • bengray66 #918 4 years ago

    I feel i have to write something, just to say "I was there when that post got over xxxx replys....."

  • layleeloo #919 4 years ago

    Tenaflyviper - Its a great word isnt it! Go forth my good man and spread the gospel.

  • Calgon #920 4 years ago

    *shudders* Note to self: Must stop reading this thread!

  • JackyB #921 4 years ago

    Layleeloo sounds like the kid who once told me he had an "Ultra 46"
    Its this kind of scenario....

    Person A "prove it then"
    Person B "No
    A "why not"
    B"Don't feel like it"

  • Tenaflyviper #922 4 years ago

    @farticusmaximus

    "On a side note (and asking again) - can anyone confirm if legendary co-op resets you to a checkpoint if anyone dies, or if you respawn by your teammate like in Halo 1?"

    Yes

  • Ikari2001 #923 4 years ago

    god, what have I done.. got a lift down at lunchtime to get a copy hehe ..welcome back mr CreditCard lol

  • Kilters #924 4 years ago

    Looks like Layleeloo got deleted. A small mercy.

  • FlamingCarrot #925 4 years ago

    My bloody discs are stratched in the Collectors Edition. Marvellous. Well done MS back to GAME i go.

  • Kilters #926 4 years ago

    Yep my tin box edition was scratched to shit as well. Terrible design.

  • monkie_king #927 4 years ago

    can anyone confirm roughly what percentage of Halo 3 involves fighting zombies in the dark?

  • JackyB #928 4 years ago

    KILTERS "Looks like Layleeloo got deleted. A small mercy. "
    or he just deleted the comments to save face?

    EDIT. He has certainly not been deleted
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 15:52

  • monkie_king #929 4 years ago

    still too much then. fighting zombies in the dark ftl.

    (and yes, i'm looking at you, HL2, Riddick, Halo:CE, Halo 2 ...)

  • lennon #930 4 years ago

    @Kilters - Its called the ignore button ;)

  • CannonAnBall #931 4 years ago

    Multi-player is very good!!!

  • Azazel #932 4 years ago

    A worthless victory. What a complete, total and utter loser.

    The dictionary definition of a pyyrhic victory in fact.

  • layleeloo #933 4 years ago

    HEadbog

    Yet again I will re-itterate to read what you are talking about. I gave explanation as to why is isnt a great game - and again - you just said it was shit. I never said that. I said it isnt worth all the hype as it is a basic FPS at best, with sub standard progression and does nothing new from what the original x box did years ago. My best mate who own a game shop opened at midnight lat night but afew of us went down ealry to help out and set up several tv's and the rest so folk could play multiplayer etc - and still - was no different to halo 2 really. So as previously mentioned - read posts properly before you spout your shit little man, for you are questioning things which have already been stated.

  • layleeloo #934 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus

    Read post above. Caught out? This place is full of lemmings.

    Unlike the majority on here I was playing it on monday - and most of last night - so save the caught out shit pal hahaha.

  • JackyB #935 4 years ago

    layleeloo is becoming more elaborate

  • GingerNathan #936 4 years ago

    I must admit there are rather a lot of hypocrites in this comments thread, that are moaning about all of the Halo haters being just fanboys. As soon as someone says that they don't think it's as good as the hype, or they're not a massive fan of the series they're jumped on as Nintendo or Sony fanboys?! I think many of you should look in the mirror, I don't think many of you wouldn't be defending this game so venomously if it wasn't on the 360.


    Anyhoo, I picked my copy up this afternoon at lunch and I'm looking forward to trying it out tonight, I'm guessing it won't live up to the hype, but I should imagine that it won't stop me enjoying it.

  • darc #937 4 years ago

    The hype is truly nuts - especially for a game that is essentially an evolution of a design that's been hanging around for ~15 years. (And reiterating: I'm sure it's a damn fine game...)

    I think it's cool to see video games in the mainstream news, but this thing has front page headlines on CNN, something like 4 features on news.yahoo... if every nation on earth were to acquire tactical nukes this afternoon, that story would appear immediately after the "HALO 3 LIVES UP TO HYPE" follow-ups. (I could weave endless conspiracy theories about our being entertained into drooling submission.)

  • layleeloo #938 4 years ago

    GingerNathan

    Very eloquently put indeed.

  • miiiguel #939 4 years ago

    what's hype?

    why some people get upset for other people excitment ? Let them/us live it, a smile on one's face doesn't imply an anger face on other.

    Next time I'll try to remember to say: "I like it, but just a tiny little bit..."
    Edited by 3 at 26/09/07 @ 16:30

  • mash the x button #940 4 years ago

    Hype = potential sales = $$$$
    Simple really...

  • layleeloo #941 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus

    You post just proves furthermore what the great GingerNathan says about Fanboys. Quick - look, there andother Bandwagon rolling by for you to jump on with the other lemmings....

  • layleeloo #942 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus - also - that taste in your mouth could be headbog's cum - but even still - I would love your mind as you are so sure about what others have and havnt done. People would go far with a mind like that. You could sway Jury's and governments! Put that talent to use and become a Mystic Meg - im sure you'd do well as you "know" what people have and havnt done. But mind you - I must be careful - becasue with your mind powers you probably know that I dont own any consoles at all, and in fact - am not even here?!? Strange guy.

  • layleeloo #943 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus

    Becasue you ignorance is a blatant as your fanboyism. I have already stated - that unlike yourself - I had the so called "privelege" of playing it all last night in my best mates games shop waiting for the midnight launch.

    You see - you have the ability to believe or disbelieve what you want. The fact is - whether you doubt what i have done or not, is in fact, doubtness of any single comment on this site by any indiviual on any topic. Which is a persons right. But to be so blinded by ignorance is purely ingenious - to someone who thinks the 360 is the best gaming experience.

    Owning all 3 consoles - I would not agree nor dissagree with that, as after all - a console is as good as the games on it, where it has already been stated on this topic - excellet games like motorstorn and wii sports reperesent their native consoles - as "halo 3" does the 360.

    But although my number one love is racing games, and I love my PS3, I do not doubt that Motorstorm is flawed in a lot of places, Wii sports is certainly flawed on the wii - as Halo 3 is flawed in many ways, most simply being is its more of the same which many have become bored off. SO unlike most - I am not blinded by ignorance - but see games for purely what they are as I am not someone who thinks one machine is better than the other. Same with my PSP and DS both great machines depending what games you wanna play. Fact is - hype and fanboyism blinds truth, and my collegue at work here is excited to go play it and Ive told him he will love it as he loves the second - for that reason alone. He is a fan. Put someone in front of it and say here is a next generation game to someone who knows hothing of halo hype and you will find they would not make the same loved up praising remarks people continue to do so. But then - that is my opinion. He/she may love it, they may hate it - but all i ask is people arnt blinded by tradition, fanboyism and hype - which invariable happens with all games on consoles - just like Metal Gear will on the PS3, just like Grand Theft will do, and so it will continue as long as there are games fans around.

    After all - if games can create such fun and heated debate then long may they continue.
    Edited by 3 at 26/09/07 @ 17:05

  • miiiguel #944 4 years ago

    "there andother Bandwagon"

    It's called Lair, and has plenty of seats free, look there's another one called Heavenly Sword, oh shit!, that one's gone...


    /jumps happily on Halo's one... oooooh, leather seats, and pink champagne!/
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 17:10

  • adamamosa #945 4 years ago

    I wasnt gonna get halo3. I much prefere the more 'grounded' style of Rainbow six. But now nearly everyone on my friends list is playing it I think i may just have to. I had better get used to being insulted by american teens . . . . . . .

  • Les #946 4 years ago

    "fact is Halo haters already made up their minds before it came out."

    Same goes for Halo lovers...

  • mash the x button #947 4 years ago

    How long did it take to think up that "mate's shop" excuse?

  • w00t #948 4 years ago

    @layleeloo

    I recommend sex and travel.

  • mash the x button #949 4 years ago

    Yes, I think we can all agree on the fact that the ps3 is a rather expensive bit of kit at the moment.
    The 360 certainly holds all the trump cards in that respect.

  • miiiguel #950 4 years ago

    I bought Sept's edition Wired magazine, featuring Masterchief on the cover and a great article: "How Microsoft Invented a New Science of Play", in the end it translates to "hardcore gamers and hip dudes unite".

  • Spydez #951 4 years ago

    @ Ladysloo - Which is it?

    "I paid slightly more than £20 for it on monday to give it the benefit of the doubt"

    Or

    "I had the so called "privelege" of playing it all last night in my best mates games shop waiting for the midnight launch"

    One of your previous statements is not true, so which is it?

  • layleeloo #952 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus

    You talk utter shit and make it up as you go along!?!?!? Read the articled you thick ignuramous!!

    NOWHERE did it say I had it 12 days ago - that article was my assumption you dumb ass!! How thick are people on here! hahaha.

    AS I daid - belivee what you want - unlike the argos folks who got it earlier than me - I just had it on monday - so Id say 2 days play versus you who have only just touched it adds a more valid argument. I think you need to take a brain transplant with that bribe from bungie you hold - and then maybe you cane learn to read - and actually look at the game instead of with thos bear goggles you so dearly hold. haha

  • layleeloo #953 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus

    You talk utter shit and make it up as you go along!?!?!? Read the articled you thick ignuramous!!

    NOWHERE did it say I had it 12 days ago - that article was my assumption you dumb ass!! How thick are people on here! hahaha.

    AS I daid - belivee what you want - unlike the argos folks who got it earlier than me - I just had it on monday - so Id say 2 days play versus you who have only just touched it adds a more valid argument. I think you need to take a brain transplant with that bribe from bungie you hold - and then maybe you cane learn to read - and actually look at the game instead of with thos bear goggles you so dearly hold. haha

  • Azazel #954 4 years ago

    IGNURAMUS!!1

  • layleeloo #955 4 years ago

    Spydez

    IS everyone so thick? So - you own a game - does that mean none of your mates do? If you own a game and go to a mates house (or shop) do you not play it together? I think so? Therefore both statements are true you wally. I thankfully get every game a couple of days early due to shipments arriving in stores ready for release - so therefore am able to play them - like many many other people, a cpouple of days before release. So if you mate holds a function or a get together at his house - do you not attend cos youd rather stay in and play alone? I doubt it. I rest my case.

  • monkie_king #956 4 years ago

    "then maybe you cane learn to read - and actually look at the game instead of with thos bear goggles you so dearly hold."

    hey maximus, where did you get those bear goggles anyway? i could use some of them on my next huntin' trip. very useful things, no wonder you hold them so dearly.
    Edited by 1 at 26/09/07 @ 18:20

  • layleeloo #957 4 years ago

    hahahha. I'll let al lyou gangbagers keep kissin each others arses - and shagging those discs of yours you think are so wonderful - while i trudge through this game to see what else I can find to enlighted the lesser few to is dire accord. Speak to you all soon - im sure you will have plenty to say when we see how poor and shite the levels get later on - according to the reviews anyway. S O lets soo if they are right. Oh no - wait a minute - youre all FANS - you will never see anything bad about it? Ah well - you'll learn one day.

  • darc #958 4 years ago

    "hardcore gamers and hip dudes unite".

    LOL I'm watching this thread implode and trying to decide whether we're "hardcore" or "hip". Leaning toward "hardcore" for the moment. ;)

  • monkie_king #959 4 years ago

    "enlighted the lesser few to is dire accord"

    o_O

  • DjFlex52 #960 4 years ago

    I just wonder why you would play a game all night if it is shit, boring and overrated.

  • mostly_harmless #961 4 years ago

    This thread is the reason the internet should be banned.

  • Azazel #962 4 years ago

    Evil meet my sword, sword MEET EVIL!

  • mash the x button #963 4 years ago

    mostly harmless - are you the same mostly harmless who plays Go?

  • layleeloo #964 4 years ago

    headbog

    Still forever the ignoramus. Your intelligence is insulting to this forum! You cant read, cos if you could you would see the reasons why this game is pap - and you are like a child who cant handle criticismn on something you like! haha. Its pathetic. Grow up little man. haha

  • layleeloo #965 4 years ago

    headbog

    You say "if you claim to own a 360". Well you should know - cos apparantly youve been doing the stalking and checking of usernames havnt you? Or are you too thick to have a memore past 3 seconds from what you have already stated? haha

  • dirigiblebill #966 4 years ago

    Jayzus Mary n Joseph. Over a thousand comments.

    Thank God I don't own a 360. Nothing should generate this much interest. Nothing.

  • DrunKao #967 4 years ago

    Xerx3s -

    10/10? cue trainwreck spanning 1200 posts from people who "don't get halo". :D

    Get on with fulfilling this man's prophecy people!

    10/10 \o/

  • SleepyMagpie #968 4 years ago

    What's a 10/10? I have no idea what that is, other than it should be a very good game.

    I haven't read half of this thread, but I have seen many naysayers somehow doubting that anybody is enjoying or having fun with this game; that it is all hype and bought ballots.

    I can attest that 3 mates, of middling Halo positive tilt, played through the first 3 campaign chapters on Heroic tonight - and had GREAT FUN.

    Sooo many memorable stupid, silly, chaotic, rocking moments.

    That's all I ask for. Remember - you don't need to play multiplayer Halo 3 with just any prat 15 year old brat off Live!. Bring 3 of your mates if you can. Good stuff.

  • mingster #969 4 years ago

    this thread is excellent for building up my ignore user list

  • MyPointIs #970 4 years ago

    I honestly just want to state my humble opinion. I have a 360 since launch. I love Sci-Fi. However, I´m afraid to say that singleplayer Halo isn´t my cup of tea. Some production values are truly awful for the current generation (yes I mean characters and animation - also quite uneven, some bits look like out of redfaction 1). I couldn´t care less about the story. And firing purple and green lasers doesn´t do it for me.

    I´m sure the multiplayer is amazing, but I do feel to old to enjoy it.

  • dirigiblebill #971 4 years ago

    And firing purple and green lasers doesn´t do it for me.

    OMG you sick person. Get back to Massachussets, sicko.

    /irony

  • TonyCocaCola #972 4 years ago

    I started playing last night, took me a while to go from 'Medal of Honor cover and shoot tactics' to jumpy shooty mode. Awesome game! Just love the big areas and crazy action. There is nothing more satisfying than jumping on a tank and punching the living shite out of it. ZANG!

  • afghan_jones #973 4 years ago

    well its quite good isnt it.

    only played the first couple of levels of the campaign which frankly felt tired and old to me.

    Multiplayer however was a lot of fun and i imagine in the fullness of time, once i get into co-op and forge, the initial disappointment will fade....


    I hope.

  • layleeloo #974 4 years ago

    Some people REALLY do have too much time on their hands don't they. haha. If its such a good game why arnt you playing it instead of sitting on here all day and night? haha. Speaks volumes.

  • layleeloo #975 4 years ago

    Well - that is the kind of review we expect from a fanboy. Blinded by love. Isnt it sweet. I was quite amazed this am coming into work to find my collegue who was more excited to play this last night came and said "well, its not amazing is it. Just more of the same". So you see - as much as the popel who love it can defend it - seemingly there are just as many who are dissapointed. And if dissapointment means you arnt a fan - then I'd rather not be one - cos then I can see things for what they are.

  • TonyCocaCola #976 4 years ago

    Well im at work so i cant really play it at the moment.

  • layleeloo #977 4 years ago

    It probably isnt a drain on your time - as its the only way you can try and make yourself feel intellectual. Very endearing I know - but then, to state ones opinion is what we fought wars for in the first place. Thats real wars - not ones with green purle and blue spacemen.

  • mash the x button #978 4 years ago

    "Some people REALLY do have too much time on their hands don't they".
    Ha ha, I don't expect you to understand the irony in what you have written there.

  • TonyCocaCola #979 4 years ago

    So your saying we shouldnt play halo? Ok fair enough, what should we play then? Tell us what to think layleeloo, we're lost without you!

  • layleeloo #980 4 years ago

    TonyCocaCola - why can tpeople read before they get into the argument. I never said dont play it - I never said it was shit. It isnt. Its just not deserving of the hype and acclaim it gets as its the same game as came out on the first xbox all be it, slightly prettier. What heppend to advancement and trying to pregress. Im all for if something works, dont change it too much - but at least try something evident.

  • layleeloo #981 4 years ago

    headbog

    What makes me laugh most - is out of all your pap yesterday - you handt even played the game - and professed to argue with someone who had been for two days. That amazes me frankly for you then to come in and write a predictable glowing report one you had then played it. How can you argue a cas eon something you have never played. And you can come back and neither had I etc like you will - but then, it doesnt really matter what you believe - the fact you make such argument about something you had not played for yourself is contradictory and laughable.

  • InsoFox #982 4 years ago

    Yawn.

    Got it last night, seems good so far.

  • Les #983 4 years ago

    Does anyone know if they fixed the ally AI in Halo 3? In Halo 2 I was able to walk up to my squadmates and kill them without much more than a protest sample being played...

    And does the world look more or less plastic?

  • layleeloo #984 4 years ago

    Les

    You can still shoot your tem mates if you want - but at least they shout at you that they are on your side so kind o helps. But just makes it more fun to continue shooting them when they shout up! :-)

    As for whether it looks plasticy - as you can guess from this forum - its personal opinion so whatever you state will get shot down untless its praising. So judge for yourself my friend.

  • afghan_jones #985 4 years ago

    It still looks kinda plastic. and yes, even when the sarge guy is talking to you about a mission you can smash his face in with the butt of your gun and he'll keep talking while his hat flies off and blood goes everywhere. silly.

  • TonyCocaCola #986 4 years ago

    Luckilly layleeloo is here to even it out...

  • layleeloo #987 4 years ago

    Im glad that in the last few posts here people are actually talkin gabout it properly! And mentioning the niggles and gripes along side the praise.

    That is my only argument. So glad other people are seeing the sub standard points too as well as the good. :-)

  • joeking #988 4 years ago

    Dear Haters,

    Edge magazine awarded Halo 3 a rather outstanding 10/10.

    Yours sincerely,

    joeking :)

  • layleeloo #989 4 years ago

    Joeking

    You title you post "Dear haters". Have you found many people on here Hating it? Saying its crap? I havnt? I have just found people not willing to praise it. That doesnt mean they are haters. It just means they are objective.

    As for Edge - That is not surprising. Most magazines will for some reason? Thats what the prob is. Sure - give it a great score, for the right reasons without ignoring the bad. In which case Edge didnt give a review - they gave a praise - which kind of defeats the object and misleads the public.

    Sure its a good game - but in my personal opinon being a general fan of shooters and not just a halo fan, is yes, sure its good - its just dissapointing after the wait insome areas.
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/07 @ 10:25

  • TonyCocaCola #990 4 years ago

    Do you make this much of a fuss when other games get a 10? Whats your fav shooter?

  • joeking #991 4 years ago

    "As for Edge - That is not surprising. Most magazines will for some reason? Thats what the prob is. Sure - give it a great score, for the right reasons without ignoring the bad. In which case Edge didnt give a review - they gave a praise - which kind of defeats the object and misleads the public"

    Em, have you even READ their review yet to know that?! Take that lemon out of your mouth, puh-lease. Halo 3 for GOTY! \o/

  • layleeloo #992 4 years ago

    hahahhahahah

  • joeking #993 4 years ago

    Great response. So you haven't read the review yet (of course you haven't, and I nor anyone else would believe you if you said you had), but felt compelled to slag of its objectivity anyway. Face it, Halo 3 is one of the best games to be released this year. The sales, the scores, it's unanimous. I suggest you come to an acceptance 'mate'. And so ends our dialogue. You can't possibly have anything of worth left to say that's worth my time or a response!

    :D

  • layleeloo #994 4 years ago

    TonyCocaCola (good name BTW).

    Erm, yes and no - if its deserving of course. My fave shooters are prob Half Life 2 on the Xbox, Gears, COD 3 (as it was just pure arcade fun for a change) so looking forward to COD4.

    That doesnt mean that these games are better than Halo 3, they are just my personal faves as you asked. I didnt get on the Half Life 2 band wagon for aaaaaaages. But decided to give it a go and was engrossing, and atmospheric. Quite like Bioshock in its qualities. But then hey - this forum is about H3 isnt it so better not digress.

  • layleeloo #995 4 years ago

    headbog

    There you go again with you dross. haha. Im glad you keep pasting my info - its flattering. But as Ive said - can you read? Where in all those posts does it say I think its crap? It doesnt. The overyped tosh comment is true - it is overyped tosh. But then - its just halo.

    Like all the other little brainless followers - you all quote the "Anti halo troll" line. hahahhahaa. Where's the originality? Just becasue someone isnt blinded by lust for a few pixels and doesnt pay the game sat sweating in a master chief suit like you probably do (im assuming you bought the t shit too) that means I hate something?

    Just becasue I dont praise something doesnt mean I hate it? Nor anyone for that fact - it means that we can simply see what you people who are blinded by ignorance cant.

    Its not a flat out crap game as i have re itterated many times. I have never said that - however you keep doing which interests me - i said its overrated and people cant see its faults becasue they are blinded by love like yourself fanboy. Look at games objectively - or you may not think any future games are any good - unless wait for it - Halo 4? Oh my gosh - did you just cum at that thought if it ever happens? Pllllllease.
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/07 @ 11:05

  • Les #996 4 years ago

    "Edge magazine awarded Halo 3 a rather outstanding 10/10."

    Would be amazed if they hadn't. It's better than the original Halo which they awarded a 10/10...

    I've never really digged the Halo franchise (nor FPSs in general). I really dislike the MC character design and the plasticy look of at least Halo 2 didn't help much either. But having experienced multiplayer in Warhawk (without voice comms ;) ), I can appreciate that a strong multiplayer game like Halo 2 or 3 or Resistance even, can keep you entertained for years and years. There's not many games that can do that. I think it would be a good direction for the industry to move towards more specialised games: so no combined single player/multi player but just focus on one aspect and execute that perfectly, rather than the half assed mix that you see nowadays.

  • layleeloo #997 4 years ago

    joeking

    So sales means somethign is good then? Well - the 360 lovers should think their machine is crap as the PS3 outsold it on lauch by ailly amounts? Does that mean the PS3 is better? Not really. it means it sold well. Just cos something sells doesnt means its brilliant? Was spiderman 3 the best film made the year it came out - just cos it made th most money - I think not. Now the case rests my firend - sales does not dictate decency - it disctates folowing. Which doesnt mean something is brilliant. It means it has loyal fans.

  • layleeloo #998 4 years ago

    Les

    Excellent point well made! I have said this in dsicussuons at work - well similar. Not discussing whether multiplayer is good or not - but the point you make is good in that perhaps like Team fortess 2 and the like - multiplayer games should be made to do just that - as the single player campaign often suffers as so much concentration goes into multiplayer. Perhaps they should be 2 separate entities. Good point!

  • layleeloo #999 4 years ago

    You keep mentioning lies - but you are the one who made shit up defending something you hand even played. And whats trolling about likeing severeal games - unlike you im no fanboy of anything - that way I acn appreciate more unlike yoursefl to whom nothing can compare to this little spacey shooter.

    I havnt TRIED toning anything down - my comments to tohers are toned down as they state reasonable argument - so deserve response accordingly. Therefore it appears I have toned down - but its just that when not talking to pre pubescent fanboys like you there is no need to be agressive - as most people other than you can handle being criticised, and thier love of a particular game. SO you see - my tone disctates who im speaking to - so if my tone to you is different - then it speaks volumes doesnt it.

  • TonyCocaCola #1000 4 years ago

    Does anyone fancy talking about the game? Has anyone tried the forge yet?

  • layleeloo #1001 4 years ago

    Headbog

    It seems that if that is the case - then I am not the only one going round in cirles. You stated that I have not said what or why i dislike the game - when in actual fact if you learn to read as i keep re itteratin - I have said on more than numerous occasions why i dont like it. Go go forth and read more young man

    Furthermore - you state that my mission was to upset the faboys etc. Where does it say that? This, if I am mistaken, is a forum - for opinion. Therefore it matter not who is in the minorty, and whom in the majority. This page is not called al HALO 3 praise page and isnt everything wonderful - althought that is what it seems.

    Therefore - due to the nature of forums and stating opinon - I stated mine - which to you love for the game you took umbridge at. Which in this free nation is ones perogative - but you cant keep rattling on saying I havnt said what i dislike when I have - and you have even pasted it yourself.

    So how about in future forumn speak - it is treated like a forum where debate can be talked about equally - without non "fanboys" being bashed by those who are blinded by love. There is nothing wrong with being blinded by love - but there is plenty wring with trying to proclaim that what others think is utter rubbish becasue they are Halo hating trolls.

    It is all merely matter of opinion my friend - and the sooner you understand that - the more discussion can take place which has done this morning on other topics surrounding the game/miltiplayer v singleplayer etc. But then - if I criticise multiplayer if I didnt like something I have the distinct feeling you will jump on me like a tono f brick which is fair enough - we will just continue to go round in circles forever more until people can learn others have opinion as valid as their own.

  • Xerx3s #1002 4 years ago

    Does anyone fancy talking about the game? Has anyone tried the forge yet?

    Yes, lutz, no moon and me did yesterday evening. It's the best MP mode ever invented! Pardon my English but it's fucking awesome. Need something? Pop to overseer mode and summon it to turn the tides of war. It all just works so well!

    Campaign: OMG OMG OMG! Initially underwhelming but by Tsavo highway I was just gripped. I dont know how it ends, but I HAVE TO KNOW. Same great Halo gameplay, much much better visuals (stills do not do it justice - fantastic HDR effects) and at the moment I am so enthralled by the story that I cant concentrate on work. The levels so far have more 'character' than most of Halo2 as well.

    Had the same thing as well. The first section was nice but not 10/10. 8/10 would have been better but then it just takes off! The vehicle sections are amazing at some points and they just keep getting more spectacular. The combat is brilliant as well but more hunters would have been nice. At one point I replayed a section more than 5 times because it was just so cool to do.
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/07 @ 11:45

  • layleeloo #1003 4 years ago

    farticusmaximus

    A good review and points well made. Thankfully more and more are putting things other than simple praise.
    I understand re COD4 - surely creates some negative impact. But then - I assume they started programming that a lot later than H3 started due to COD3 only being out recently so they were more comfortable with the technology? Who knows?

  • Les #1004 4 years ago

    "Yes, lutz, no moon and me did yesterday evening. It's the best MP mode ever invented! Pardon my English but it's fucking awesome. Need something? Pop to overseer mode and summon it to turn the tides of war. It all just works so well!"

    But doesn't that remove any challenge?

  • Xerx3s #1005 4 years ago

    But doesn't that remove any challenge?

    No, not at all because everybody can do it. And there is a limit to what you can summon so you have to find a balance. It sounds odd but it worked out fantastically, we had tons of fun with it.

  • spekkeh #1006 4 years ago

    This thread is faltering, let's add some fuel to the fire!

    Halo 3 items (first the review, now some article on the introduction) have now consistently had the top spot on the front page, even after no less than eleven other news items and reviews have been added. Why haven't the Halo 3 items bumped down, like they should? Surely this is proof that EG have been bribed by Microsoft, in order to advertise and keep the hype going, as is also perfectly clear in the score.

    ^_^.

  • layleeloo #1007 4 years ago

    spekkeh

    haha - intersting point!! I hadnt thought exactly the same but when I clicked on EG this am wondered why it was all still up. You would think with the influx of great titles out this week like Sega rally and Skate it would - but then, they have already been reviewed etc so maybe that is why?

    Email EG and find out! ;-)

  • Xerx3s #1008 4 years ago

    Funny how the front page says '1156 posts' while my post count goes just over 900. ;)

  • Les #1009 4 years ago

    "Funny how the front page says '1156 posts' while my post count goes just over 900. ;)"

    Same here. Love that 'ignore' function. Can't praise it enough!

  • layleeloo #1010 4 years ago

    headbog

    You see - still diggin even in other peoples posts. Please get a life and move on - I have betetr people to talk to than to continue to argue with you. You will no doubt want the last word as thats is what seems to be happenening, so go ahead. Id rather speak to rational folk who see things as they are.

    regards

  • layleeloo #1011 4 years ago

    I was hoping your last comment would be true - but like everything else you have said - its pap! Many people have read and commented including your fan boy friends - so whether its good or bad - you aint the only one reading. Your opinion of constructive is only praise - when in the reasl word - it is anything relevant which all your posts seem to be the opposite of. haha. So again - have the last word, but at least make it true ya lil dreamer haha

  • layleeloo #1012 4 years ago

    You cant debate with someone who only sees one side headbog - so go and continue to (mass)debate with your disc as you so readily love. Cheers

  • BobsUncle #1013 4 years ago

    Well I played it last night and so far I'm underwhelmed. I've only done the first mission so far, and another poster pointed out he wasn't impressed until later, so I hope it gets better. I (personally) just think that Halo has the best story and characters of just about any game I've ever played, but the game itself doesn't live up to that. I didn't like Halo much (copy-paste-copy-paste, crap end level) Halo 2 was better, and this so far seems like a nicer looking Halo 2 with a more confusing button layout. But for some reason I just love the whole Halo experience.

    I played the MP beta and thought it was crap. (I'm a GRAW man myself), but I've fallen in love with the CoD4 beta lately. I don't think Halo can equal that.

    All my personal opinions though. I don't like football games either. Or the Paystation £

    :-)

  • GamesConnoisseur #1014 4 years ago

    Finished Halo 3. Obviously there are parts of it which I have enjoyed more than others, and the point is to deconstruct why that is. The best bits are the tough combats including the vechicular combats at Highway level which is difficult without good co op support on heroic/leg modes.

    So game can be more enjoyable on harder mode by challenging you to do more, so perhaps I would suppose that some thought it good but not that great in SP mode and prefer MP is because the gameplay is more rapid and challenging. So try it out on heroic/legendary and far better fun and tactical in co op.

    MP is without question the best feature on a long run, but what most of complaints is more to do with SP. I find gfx good enough especially with HDTV and would understand that it would look more blander on SDTV as not texture heavy as GoW and others. A very worthy purchase IMHO.

  • layleeloo #1015 4 years ago

    GamesConnoisseur

    You've been hard at it then? Are the reviews correct? Do the level designs deteriorate in the game later or did they remain just as good for you?

    There was some talk earlier regarding whether games should be made separately in the sense of SP and MP - as it seems recetly games SP have always suffered due to high concrentration on the MP aspect. I know Xbox live is all about mulitplayer gameing etc - but should it be at the expense of the Single player mode? What do you think having now finished it?

  • morriss #1016 4 years ago

    Why ask for someone eleses opinion? Play the game and make your own mind up? If GC says the later levels are poor, it won't make it any more or less true.

    If you don't own a 360, or do and have no intention of buying Halo 3, why are you so interested? It seems like you just want an argument to me.

  • Dixons #1017 4 years ago

    layleeloo have you ever thought of throwing this much energy and passion into fighting a more worthy cause, like saving the world Master Chief style?

  • layleeloo #1018 4 years ago

    Morriss and Dixons

    What planet are yo both off? What part of my question to GamesCon sounded derogatory or argumentative? It is aquestion asking for an opinion. I will see it for myself yes - the basis of asking someones opinion is asking a general players view - and not a games reviwer. it seems it is you who is looking for the argument by picking at a genuinely inquisitive and initially polite posting.

  • layleeloo #1019 4 years ago

    Dixons - well - you have a point. But then - it seems to some that there is nothing more important in life than this game - which makes it fun to debate for those who dont think that. As for causes - Hmmm - I'll have a think haha

  • Les #1020 4 years ago

    "Why ask for someone eleses opinion? Play the game and make your own mind up?"

    Because that's quite an expensive approach...

  • mattigan #1021 4 years ago

    its only £40

  • Les #1022 4 years ago

    "its only £40"

    Yeah, and it's the only game around...

  • L42yB #1023 4 years ago

    Was playing the single player on Heroic last night, only got up to the 4th stage, but I am enjoying it so far.

    My personal opinion so far is that it didn't deserve the 10/10, but then I haven't tried the online yet (no internet at home :( ) but I'm sure that it will be excellent as Halo 2 had a very good multiplayer.

    But just based on the single player portion of the game I think that the game deserves no more than an 8/10... so even if the Multiplayer gets 10/10 the overall rating shud still be a 9/10 or so.

    Anywayz, that's my 2 cents :) Overall the review was very good and I don't really disagree with it at all, just think the score didn't really line up with what was said in the review...

  • L42yB #1024 4 years ago

    @layleeloo - "There was some talk earlier regarding whether games should be made separately in the sense of SP and MP - as it seems recetly games SP have always suffered due to high concrentration on the MP aspect"

    A good case study for this scenario are the Splinter Cell games, as Ubisoft have had two different development teams working on the Single player and the Multiplayer since Pandora Tomorrow... I think it worked quite well for them as the game needed to keep a very good and solid single player while adding a good (but very different) multiplayer portion to the game.

    I definitly think that Multiplayer was the main focus of Halo 2 (I have yet to try the online for Halo 3) and that the single player game suffered for it. But the single player in Halo 3 *far* surpasses the mediocrity that was the Halo 2 campaign, so clearly Bungie have tried to balance their efforts more carefully this time around.

  • gmmonkey #1025 4 years ago

    Bought halo 3 last night. So far it's average. I'm kind of dissapointed in the game. Imo, it hasn't brought anything new to the table. Last gen gameplay wrapped up in semi-next gen graphics. For what it is it's very polished. The thing that pissed me off the most though, is the fucking letterboxes while playing co-op down the side of the screen. I thought there was something wrong with my telly. If gears of war and rainbow six can do it then why can't bungie. Ask yourself this, if this game wasn't in the halo skin would you buy this and give it a 10/10?

  • bloodflowers #1026 4 years ago

    If the graphics are always silky smooth why am I acutely aware of the few frame drops that litter every area in campaign? It's not bad, but it's enough that the review is factually incorrect. Rose tinted anyone?

    Very much Halo 2.5 from my impressions playing it. Not necessarily a bad thing, but too many of the reviews (including the EG one) have been far too glowing.

  • TonyCocaCola #1027 4 years ago

    I havent had any frame rate issues either. Not on SP anyway

  • L42yB #1028 4 years ago

    @TonyCocaCola - Hey dude :) How far are u thru playing it?

    I've been searching for the skulls... no one seems to know where the IWHBYD skull is yet :( Apparently only Bungie staff know... *sigh*

  • TonyCocaCola #1029 4 years ago

    Skulls? Sh*t i didnt know there was hidden stuff. Im on level 4 or 5 i think.. Might be the level after 'clearence'. How about yous?

  • TonyCocaCola #1030 4 years ago

    Theatre mode? Man i really should pay more attention to some of the new features in this game.

  • L42yB #1031 4 years ago

    @ TonyCocaCola - LOL! have a look at this vid, it's very useful for finding the hidden terminal and the skulls:

    http://ww w.nationofgamers.net/skulls-ter...

  • Les #1032 4 years ago

    “Ask yourself this, if this game wasn't in the halo skin would you buy this and give it a 10/10?”

    Probably not. No person is ever without bias. The first Halo was the first proper FPS for consoles and earned high marks for that. The second one was one of the best console multiplayer games ever, which almost every hardcore gamer with access to all consoles will probably have enjoyed a lot. Of course they take those experiences and feelings with them when they review Halo 3. And I think you can’t really blame them for it. Furthermore, you might argue that a serial game, with an elaborate background story and fleshed out universe might actually add value to the game.

  • JackB #1033 4 years ago

    God, am I sick of the "it hasn't brought anything new to the table" comments.

    1.Theater...
    2. http://www.bungie.net website integration...
    3. Forge...

    All 3 of those are far and away better than anything anywhere ever. Unfricken believable. People just love to hate.

  • Les #1034 4 years ago

    "All 3 of those are far and away better than anything anywhere ever."

    I think not.

  • BobsUncle #1035 4 years ago

    @JackB

    1.Theater...
    Like in Forza 2 you mean? edit: And Driver all those years ago.

    2. http://www.bungie.net website integration...
    err.. Like in Forza 2 you mean?

    3. Forge...
    Like in Farcry you mean?
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/07 @ 19:44

  • DAN.E.B #1036 4 years ago

    Quit your bitching!!!!!!!!!! HALO is a great game and millions love it!
    im sorry your machine of choice does,nt have any AAA titles but one day it will..................one day

  • Vindicator #1037 4 years ago

    I think it's kind of ironic that the subject of your review was "cutting the crap" and it took you three paragraphs - wordy ones at that - to even begin getting into the review.
    Edited by 1 at 27/09/07 @ 21:12

  • rob177467 #1038 4 years ago

    Just finished the campaign, the last two missions are terrible. the penultimate mission worse than the library in halo 1. why only fight the flood in the last three missions? Have to say the game so far has been a massive dissapointment, although there were a few stand out moments. and the multiplayer doesnt appeal greatly, xbox live is mostly full of the absolute dregs of society, although i could go on live perhaps to encourage people to kill themselves.

  • Xerx3s #1039 4 years ago

    3. Forge...
    Like in Farcry you mean?

    It's a MP mode. One of the most interesting I have played in a long time. Try before talking about it.

  • Xerx3s #1040 4 years ago

    Just finished the campaign, the last two missions are terrible. the penultimate mission worse than the library in halo 1. why only fight the flood in the last three missions? Have to say the game so far has been a massive dissapointment, although there were a few stand out moments. and the multiplayer doesnt appeal greatly, xbox live is mostly full of the absolute dregs of society, although i could go on live perhaps to encourage people to kill themselves.

    Interesting. Your profile claims otherwise.

  • rob177467 #1041 4 years ago

    Xerx3s

    because i haven't been on live for a while idiot
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/07 @ 00:03

  • ilmaestro #1042 4 years ago

    Nice review, Shinji.

  • Foregone Reality #1043 4 years ago

    I wonder how many MBs of space are taken up on EG's servers from comments/spamming alone?

  • onyxbox #1044 4 years ago

    i've been playing Halo 3 on heroic last night and I'm up to a bit with a big scarab and I'm wondering when the game's going to get going.

    I'm very disappointed in this game and I feel like many of the sites/reviewers that have reviewed this game and given it amazing scores are deluded. I swear I'm starting to think there's some kind of conspiracy going on here... I mean I really can't see what the fuss is about with this game. 10 / 10 ! More like 6 or a 7 IMO (with the multi-player).

    edit: Perhaps things gett better from here on?

    Edited by 1 at 28/09/07 @ 08:45

  • afghan_jones #1045 4 years ago

    Yeah, Im finding the single player quite disappointing. Id not played the first two games but those stupid little triangular ewok enemies are just about the most shitty enemy ive ever had the displeasue of fighting.

    multiplayer is a lot of fun though, still feel like ive only scratched the surface of the multiplayer on offer. although it will be a while before i stop getting raped by proper halo vets.

  • JackyB #1046 4 years ago

    Les. Ever played Goldeneye?

  • JackyB #1047 4 years ago

    afghan. Totally agree about the ewoks!

  • layleeloo #1048 4 years ago

    still good to see people are being ovjective, instead of blind...

  • mattigan #1049 4 years ago

    1200 and 1st???

  • BobsUncle #1050 4 years ago

    @Xerx3s

    "3. Forge...
    Like in Farcry you mean?

    It's a MP mode. One of the most interesting I have played in a long time. Try before talking about it."

    Sorry, not Farcry, I mean Pariah.

    I apologise, I was under the impression that Forge was a multiplayer map editor, like the one they did in Pariah a long time ago. Admittedly I've not tried it, I was too busy playing the (frankly quite boring) campaign last night to bother with the shitty multiplayer (I thought the beta was crap). But from the sounds of it Forge doesn't allow you to create geometry, just move spawn points and items around, making it less powerful than the Pariah editor.
    The only parts of the campaign I've actually enjoyed are the cut scenes which elaborate on the story, but not very much. I might just buy the books to read instead. I have been looking forward to this game for so long and now I feel totally let down. At least there is CoD4 just around the corner.

    Someone said earlier it's more like Halo 2.5 and I'm inclined to agree. Maybe 2.2 though.

  • TonyCocaCola #1051 4 years ago

    Im actually quite happy with the game. I dont really pay too much attention to the eurogamer ratings so im not gonna go into that but iv really enjoyed the game so far. I think the graphics are pretty good considering how big the environments are and how the frame rate stays completely smooth. I like the story, i think the level design is good and its just plain fun to play.

  • JackyB #1052 4 years ago

    Headbog. Maybe i need a tutorial

  • miiiguel #1053 4 years ago

    right..., I called in sick yesterday, and haven't been to EG, but I can see you're still discussing the sex of the angels...

  • miiiguel #1054 4 years ago

    onyxbox: you know better ?

    Sheeesh, there's a Stalinist syndrome in these ppl.

  • Xerx3s #1055 4 years ago

    BobsUncle: Why do you play something that you find boring. Quite odd. Like I said: Forge is NOT an editor. It's a MP mode that gives a whole new twist to teamplay.

  • BobsUncle #1056 4 years ago

    Headbog, Hmmm... now that does sound a bit more fun, I'll try it at some point soon. I REALLY want something in this game to make me love it.
    Thing is, I much prefer the style of play of GRAW where you shoot someone a few times and they die. All this hammering people until their shields go then having them disappear out of sight for a few seconds only to come back good as new just pisses me off. It was like that in GoW too, and to a degree in R6 but you could aim for the head with any weapon a get one shot kills, so that was ok.

    Regarding the single player, I've seen more elements of "Can't think of another part of a level, lets just make them go backwards through what they've already done" design. Which played a huge part of Halo and I hate.

    I'm hoping the co-op will be better. Maybe it's because I've had such high hopes, it was a bit like that with the last Splinter Cell, I couldn't wait and I bigged it up too much so it was a disappointment. And Forza 2.

  • BobsUncle #1057 4 years ago

    "Why do you play something that you find boring."

    I'm hoping it'll get better. If I'd only played the first mission then said "It's boring, I give up" you'd then say "Well play a bit more, you'll get into it". And I'm not paying 40 quid for a game and never playing it!

  • JackyB #1058 4 years ago

    Headbog. No not sarcasm. Yes Halo virgin

  • BobsUncle #1059 4 years ago

    Farticus: I'm hoping I can post an amended opinion soon. Although I have to admit the bit the the big ship comes in and lands on top of you to drop the tanks off was fucking awesome. Pity it was followed by me having no idea where to go, until I thought, "hang on, it's Halo. BACKTRACK!" :-)

    Headbog: I hate shooting the brutes armor off, they're so ugly underneath! I do think the enemy AI is pretty nifty though.

  • TonyCocaCola #1060 4 years ago

    The tanks are awesome. Havent used an enemy tank yet though,.. they're unusable after you've smashed them open with your fist

  • TonyCocaCola #1061 4 years ago

    Yeah, shooting down the big enemy drop ships and the scarabs springs to mind.. Man thats satisfying

  • BobsUncle #1062 4 years ago

    I don't think the Wraiths are player controlable.

    :'-(

  • TonyCocaCola #1063 4 years ago

    Is that the tanks? I could have sworn you could use them in Halo 2?

  • anamenos #1064 4 years ago

    cant wait for FIFA review

  • BobsUncle #1065 4 years ago

    Yeah, the Wraiths are the tanks that fire the big mortar like blue blobs. I've never managed to get into a Wraith. I thought it said in the instructions in Halo 2 they are non-controllable. You'd assume if you jumped on one it would give you the command to get in, but it only ever says "LT to plant grenade".

    EDIT:
    Come to think of it, I do vaguely remember driving a wraith in Halo 2, but I don't think you can take ones with people already in them.
    Edited by 1 at 28/09/07 @ 12:11

  • BigJonno #1066 4 years ago

    Not the best review I've read on Eurogamer, mainly because it seemed to be based on the idea that Halo 2 SP was a little flawed. Personally I found Halo 2 SP dull and despite really wanting to finish it, failed to do so on several occasions due to severe boredom. I also agree with all those who said that the text didn't match the score.

  • vurt #1067 4 years ago

    go to the front of them and you get the option to board its then left trigger to plant grenade or repeatedly hit b for the melee

    I jumped on it and did the melee attacks, it just destroys the tank, first the body goes then the cannon then one big explosion. There is an empty one you can board

  • mattigan #1068 4 years ago

    Just bought it, is it any good?

  • TonyCocaCola #1069 4 years ago

    You've done that the wrong way round

  • mattigan #1070 4 years ago

    oops! >.<

    I think I'll survive!

  • S.J.Rogers #1071 4 years ago

    Its Great..!

  • dllord #1072 4 years ago

    Wow 1200+ last time i looked a couple of days ago it was only 800+

  • fightman #1073 4 years ago

    the important thing to remember is that the EG reviewer has a pile of money thats covered in shit.

    the reason for this is because M$ stuffed it right up his arse in return for the 10/10.

    QED

  • WJF #1074 4 years ago

    *sigh* not this train of thought again....

  • smoothn00dle #1075 4 years ago

    This score 10/10 make me question the game review industry. How relevant is it? Is there a standard, reviewers can judge on?

    For example: Gear of War, got 7 out 10 on Eurogamer. Halo3 didn't look as good and nine months later, get a 10. Ok, Gear of War doesn't have a revolution gameplay but so does Halo3, it is just Halo2. If gameplay give Halo3 a 10, Metroid Prime3 should get a 11. When I compare similar games review on this site, it doesn't make sense. Halo3 score should be between 7 to 8.

    I found it harder and harder to see "good down to earth" game review. Less marketing more on reviewing. This trend is hurting internet gamesite's creditability. Once gamers lost their trust, it will take years to rebuild. The question I should ask is, how do we balance between marketing and reviewing?

  • Xerx3s #1076 4 years ago

    I don't think the Wraiths are player controlable.

    yes they are.

  • the_sas_man #1077 4 years ago

    "No game EVER deserves a 10/10, nothings perfect"

    Exactly - but 10/10 is NOT perfect in this system. This is why I've always preferred percentages, because say Eurogamer gives it 95%, it shows its not perfect but pretty dam good, but the 95% sticks. However with this system it would be rounded up to 10/10.

    I got no problems with that, but then you get pathetic people who bitch and moan saying its not a 10/10, its not perfect ets etc. That is NOT what 10/10 means.

    Having completed Halo, I must say its amazing. Truly epic in its ending and truly epic in the saga with a great story. And multiplay just tops it off perfectly!

    So ironically yes, with this review system its worth its 10/10 - but in percentage wise I'd say 95%.

    Now lets all shut up and play.

  • smelly #1078 4 years ago

    Geesus.. you guys still going? Anyone would think you were bored of playing the generically average fps or something?

  • Xerx3s #1079 4 years ago

    Supine: Care to elaborate? He made a pretty good argument but instead of fighting his points, you attack him with name calling.

  • Xerx3s #1080 4 years ago

    Yeah.

  • MaxiSleep #1081 4 years ago



    Do wait till after final the credits roll so you get all plot elements.

    And it is a seriously brilliant game as a single player. I have been a real sceptic of bungie and halo in these forums but I was completely wrong on this one. Brilliant game.

  • JavaJawaUK #1082 4 years ago

    Actually, reading the review again after having played through the campaign twice [second time to actually take it in instead of gawping in fanboy-awe] I don't agree that the Arbiter's storyline gets cut. Indeed, the relationship between the Elites and UNSC is exploited at several points during the campaign, the Arbiter gets his revenge on the prophet of truth for shaming him and the Fleet of Retribution [i.e. the Elite one that jumps to the Ark and is commanded by the Arbiter and Shipmaster] and it's elites play an important part in several parts of the campaign.

  • mattigan #1083 4 years ago

    I'm on the 3rd level (Tsavo Highway) and I have to say that if I was asked to describe it I would say "it's Halo" it really could be an expansion pack for Halo 2 it's that similar in look and feel.

    I am one of the "yeah it's good, but not THAT good" croud when it came to Halo's 1 & 2 and was hoping that the last installment would finally live up to the hype, or at least get a little closer than the last 2, but it looks like I'm in for another dissapointment unless something changes dramatically over the next few levels.

    One of my main bug bears with it is that I was expecting online Co-op to work in a similar way to Gears, whereby I can invite a friend anytime, but I can't seem to change the privacy setting on my single player campaign from 'private', unless I'm missing something obvious.

    That said, it is very enjoyable, and I haven't really had a go with the multiplayer yet.
    Edited by 1 at 30/09/07 @ 17:07

  • T4RG4 #1084 4 years ago

    To be honest, I'm seeing it as an 8/10 game at the moment and thats only because of the extras it comes with (reviewing your films is great, climbing in massive enemy machines is cool) BUT...

    It just feels so samey everywhere else and I really don't dig the story/style - feels very 12yr-old-ish if that makes any sense whatsoever.

    At the moment, the co-op is becoming a big of a slog, just working your way through more of the same. Gears of War looked better than this (admittedly it was limited, whereas Halo allows you to do much more) and my friends and I enjoyed it more.

    I honestly don't see why so many people RAVE over this...

  • daz_john_smith #1085 4 years ago

    I really enjoyed it. Got together with a couple of friends at the weekend and played through for the first time on 3 player co-op over system link. However I was very dissapointed by the length of the game. We didn't rush it and it was the first play through for each of us (on Heroic difficulty) but we were really surprised to "Finish the fight" in under 6 hours. I also thought that the ending came a little abruptly and I didn't get the satisfying conclusion I had hoped for. Still the best console FPS though.

    P.S. Does anyone know why it adds pretty significant black borders to the left & right of the screen when you play splitscreen in High Definition? That is really annoying and I don't know of any other games that do that.

  • KillerK #1086 4 years ago

    ok. I've come in to this one late, but thought i'd drop in my 2cents.
    I've just spent the weekend playing through three recently released shooters for the 360 from start to finish.
    Halo 3
    The Darkness
    Bioshock

    All of them good in their own ways, but for me Halo 3 was the weakest of the three with nothing to pull me back to play it again. For me Halo 2 was a great game with the original being a dull slogfest to play. This part of the trilogy went back to doing a number of things how the first game did rather than the second. Bringing the original rifle back again has upset the weapon balancing imo, as I found little need to worry about changing or wanting to change to anything else. The story was ok, but after Halo 2 I was really anticipating this, and in the end felt let down by too many filler sections that were all the same. Without spoiling it for anyone I was hugely disappointed with the ending. As lame and uninventive as they come. It only took 5 hrs playing through on normal which was a hell of a lot easier than normal has been on the previous two, but I still felt like I wanted it to end sooner.
    No more than an 8/10 for me but still better than the first with Halo 2 still being the best in the trilogy.

  • MyPointIs #1087 4 years ago

    Hype

  • Exones #1088 4 years ago

    You didn't like Halo3???
    You think is the weakest?
    How do you dare?
    Are you serious??
    I think you must be crazy or blind. Didn't you see the breathtaking graphics and gameplay and story which are Years ahead of their time...after Doom1 i mean..LOL.

    That game is a golden example of how they should be making games, wrap them up with lots of MARKETING.....and then throw them in the bin.
    And what about all those fanatics (THE BRAINWASHED) the ones that realized they were ripped off....again. HAHA. I'm sure they are so brainwashed still that think is the best game of all times, with best graphics and gameplay...etc
    Well i'm obviously sarcastic here.
    I couldn't agree more with what you say "KillerK". The same opinion have hundreds of people over the web and they used to be biggest fans of Halo1-2.

    It is an ok game to play Online and and share with your friends (while you are Drunk), but nothing else. When i said in this forum days ago that the game will be a bit crappy and will deserve 7/10 or maybe 8, everyone attacked me...Haha, look who is laughing now.....lol

    And of course it is a disgrace for EUROGAMER. It is a SHAME of them to be so SHALLOW and misleading the people with 10/10's.
    People has lost faith on EUROGAMER and EUROGAMER know it.....
    Edited by 1 at 01/10/07 @ 10:29

  • Exones #1089 4 years ago

    "headbog" that is not the point.
    The point is:

    Did it deserve a 10/10?
    Did they use marketing to brainwash all the fans?
    Did EuroGamer and other sites mislead everybody?
    Are most of the buyers upset and feel ripped of?

    Well, by now if you've played it, you know all the answers.
    Have fun....

    Ohh and i'm not a PS3 fan boy. Are you joking, they don't have even a proper game out yet...lol

  • mattigan #1090 4 years ago

    headbog - This section requires judicious use of the shotgun, theres one on the bottom level to the right, just keep getting up close and doing the "shoot mele and run away" combo to take out most of the brutes, and grenade the others and the cover to clear a path to distant brutes.

    The one with the grav hammer is a different story though, work that one out for yourself :-)

    That said, this section took me about 50 goes to get past on Heroic. This game is not easy if you play above the normal difficulty.

  • mash the x button #1091 4 years ago

    HEADBOG - The way you shout down anyone who contradicts the reviewers analysis and overall score is truly shocking. As you rightly point out, in the end it is the reviewers own take on the game; however, if someone reckons it should have been an 8, and then gives solid reasons why they felt the game merited such a score, why do you take such offence?
    Edited by 2 at 01/10/07 @ 15:17

  • captainrentboy #1092 4 years ago

    Just finished the game on Heroic, loved the experience, although level 8 in some sections really tested my patience :)
    I found Heroic just right, difficulty wise, there were some 'pain in the ass' sections, but you just keep at it and it's all the more saisfying when you see that ''Checkpoint Reached'' pop up. It took me around 8-10 hrs to do, which I feel is just right for a FPS.
    I don't agree with EG's review when they say the latter levels dip in quality a little, as I thought levels 6&7 were quite easily the best of the lot.
    Tackling it on Legendary with two mates over live now, surprisingly it's not that much of a challenge, I think we'll have to knock a few skulls on.
    As a single player experience I wouldn't have given it a 10/10, but the whole package quite easily knocks it up to that.

  • Exones #1093 4 years ago

    Yeah "HeadBog" you totally convinced me now.
    You must be a very big fun to support this game so blindly. Is Xbox360 all you play?
    It is funny that you say it didn't deserve a 10/10 but a 9.6 so they gave it 10 because is a round number...lol
    Everybody's complain is that it deserved a good 7.5 or 8 MAXIMUM and they gave it a 10, that is the misleading thing...blah blah. I wouldn't complain for a difference between 9.6 and 10....don't worry.

    10/10 deserve only games that are Perfect. To get 10/10 it should be the best of the best game over all consoles and PC ever made for the specific year. Hence perfect games don't exist, then we go straight to 9. To get 9 the game should be almost perfect and to be almost perfect it should have at least the most advanced graphics and gameplay mechanics on the specific console that is made for. Since, like you said it hasn't got the best graphics it could have, and ok the gameplay is nothing Unique and extremely WOW, then you have to go lower to 8. To get an 8, then you should compare it with the other 8s of the genre at least and think out of the box.....and then we go to 7 and so on......

    The other thing is that the majority of the people is see in official forums and friends and Halo fans they don't agree with you and as a majority they say yeah good game, fun, i'll keep playing it but is a disappointment from what they expected and were promised. That is all i'm saying.
    Anyway, everybody can have an opinion.
    Enjoy your 10/10 game....

  • captainrentboy #1094 4 years ago

    Exones like has been said many times before, your theory on the rating system doesn't make sense, if no game ever deserves a 10, or if they do, it's once every hundred years, then why bother with a 1-10 rating system? If all you ever expect a game to get, no matter how fun and playable, or how big a potential lifespan it has, is a 9, then surely it should be a 1-9 system.... But then 9 will be the perfect score, and no game should ever get that, surely?... And so on and so on.
    Like I said before,I feel it's true, Halo 3's Campaign is not worth a 10, but as a whole package, including the immensely addictive Multi-Player(Which could potentially last someone for years, not bad for £40), it's a definite 10 for me and it would seem that score appiles to a shit load of other folk out there too.
    So yeah, you might not think it's worth even a 8, and that's your entitled opinion, but you shouldn't give people shit because they feel it's worth a 10.
    This is certainly more worthy of full marks than Bioshock was, which although wonderful, lasted me a whole 10 hrs before seeing all I was ever going to see.

  • Mercatoria #1095 4 years ago

    This game really was shockingly average.
    Edited by 1 at 01/10/07 @ 13:59

  • Exones #1096 4 years ago

    I've never seen so much brainwash for a game ever in my life.
    The marketing guys did a really good job.

    Is it funny that for many years now EuroGamer and other Sites follow more or less my rating system, which makes total sence btw. Have you seen many tens around over the past years?
    I don't say that none game ever deserves a 10/10. All i say is that only really really really good games deserves 10 and HALO 3 is miles away from that.
    END OF CONVERSATION.

    Why you cannot accept that? i will never understand.

    That is the only reason i call you brainwashed.
    Don't you see that they tried to sell it and advertise it as much as possible without it being so good so they push the XBOX360....etc It's called marketing.
    Is not a bad thing guys, life works like that, but you just have to accept it and open your eyes.
    That is my last post. I said all i have to say.

  • mattigan #1097 4 years ago

    I was initially dissapointed but am less so now, now it has clicked with me that you can't play it in my usual style of FPS tactics (usually medium/long distance sniping or stealth to suit the map).

    There is definately a method to Halo that you have to follow to be successful, and once you get it the game immediately becomes more enjoyable.

    But overall, I still prefer the COD 4 MPlayer Beta to this, purely for the guns as the COD ones just feel right, while the Halo ones feel plastic (if you get my drift).

  • Les #1098 4 years ago

    "as a majority they say yeah good game, fun, i'll keep playing it but is a disappointment from what they expected and were promised."

    Welcome to 'next gen' gaming...

  • captainrentboy #1099 4 years ago

    Wow, Exones is quite rediculous isn't he? What the fuck is he blabbering on about, Brainwashing with adverts? If I were a mug who was easily brainwashed by clever marketing then why oh why don't I have a PS3 sitting on my TV stand? I mean those 'THIS IS LIVING' adverts were cutting edge, Heavenly Sword too, according to its advert it has some of the most phenominal AI ever... :/
    Or how come I haven't rushed out to buy a copy of Juiced 2 this weekend, I mean if the advert's anything to go by, It's the best thing ever, and sexy chicks in hot pants will fucking love me if I play it.
    Basically you're talking shit, we get that you don't like it, and that YOU think it's not worth a 10, but many of us do, don't make out that people are clueless mugs for loving the game. Each to their own aint it?

  • fightman #1100 4 years ago

    guess what?

    EG gave the game 10/10 in return for having their arses stuffed full of M$ notes.

    you disgust me, cunts.

  • captainrentboy #1101 4 years ago

    I'm not sure if having my arse stuffed full of notes would be that pleasurable an experience, it definitely wouldn't be enough to sway my decision on a company's latest game, but maybe that's what gets EG staff off, who knows?

  • Brogan #1102 4 years ago

    I heard they quite like a nice E minor up there.

  • davisorle #1103 4 years ago

    checked the first time and saw a lot of comments... Knew that like always there would be a bunch of morrons saying a stupid, let's say, "opinion" of their's so i decided not to comment on their stupid comments and didn't even bother reading them so I had a way better time getting back to playing Halo 3...

    Tonight a friend is coming by. We will spend the night drinking beer and playign Halo 3 co-op on legendary like always.. All i got to say cause this time i checked some fucktard's comments on last couple of pages is that the only game Ive been ever able to have so much fun in many ways with a co-op game AND SPECIALLY A FUCKING SHOOTER FOR THOSE MORONS THAT DONT REALISE IT with friend's of imine that was surprisingly a Halo game..

    SO, all I have to say is that since you dont know what means to play Halo co-op with a friend on legendary specifically then you have no fucking clue what it is to play Halo. That's a fucking fact for those that don't even understand (YET) what the hell i'm talking about.

    Stop bitching for once, show some selfrespect instead of trushing eachother for a fucking game and get a life. Unfortunatelly when im with friend some buzz and Halo momments i dont have one outside the entertainment room! Though not much since too much work etc.. So play it the way it's meant to be played or fucking leave it if it's not for you... That simple.

    Peace!
    ( got out of the army 2 weeks ago and my budy preordered for me the game. cool present :p Though it was a decoy for some chicks he brought over right after :D )

  • Monkey-Wizard-Ken #1104 4 years ago

    Easy
    Its only a game

  • MyPointIs #1105 4 years ago

    [link url=http://www. escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuatio n/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3
    ]http://ww w.escapistmagazine.com/articles...[/link]

  • Pachinko #1106 4 years ago

    You know, what I find most funny is total lack of a critical mind in the review and most of the responses. It doesn't matter that Halo 3 doesn't introduce any truly new enemies beside the morphing Flood (was it so hard to make up some nasty new Covenant beasties?), has no new bosses, recycles the same old gameplay, AI and final sequence (totally ripped off from Halo 1), but shelves playing as Arbiter which was actually brilliant since it made the experience at least somewhat different - but gets a 10 since the "context" is so much better? It plays very well, granted, but it's so safe, ordained and afraid to tread any new ground that it's scary. In a nutshell, this is Halo 2 on military steroids, streamined to make the experience as simple and gung-ho as possible. It features precious little of free-flowing battles of yore, it has the same AI routines, and yet runs on hardware that's five times as pricey and much more powerful. Does that matter? Of course not. And what happened to the story - after six years of scriptwriting they come up with THIS? Go USA, go marines, save the universe? What happened to all that Niven-like mystery, to the galactic proportions, to Gravemind's secret plans? My God... Yes, the MP is brilliant, but again just a refinement of Halo 2. If EG had the minimum of standards this would have been an 8, perhaps a 9. A 10? Insane.

    It's sad to see how the reviewing standards have fallen when it comes down to satisying hordes of fanboys who give the site much-needed clicks. Sega Rally - a 9? Loco Roco - a 9? Halo 3 - a 10? PGR4 - a 9? Etc. There's eights and nines and even tens given accross the board even though there's precious little inovation in either of these titles. But I guess it's enough to have pretty graphics and shiny multiplayers and lots of brainless readers.

  • fightman #1107 4 years ago

    glad i didnt have to buy this poo...just about worth the cost of a backup i suppose

    talk to you all later, cunts

  • ThwartedEfforts #1108 4 years ago

    The author of this review happened to describe its creation in his blog:

    [link url=http://www.challengerappears.com/blog/2007/ 09/23/anatomy-of-a-review/
    ]http://ww w.challengerappears.com/blog/20...[/link]

    He said that the process was "unpleasantly different" as he was mollycoddled the entire time by Microsoft's PR machine, that he "didn't have the kind of experience with Halo 3 that left [him] comfortable with [his] knowledge and understanding of the game", and that there was "no opportunity to play co-operative mode, or to try out the multiplayer over Xbox Live"

    Clearly any buffoon is qualified to review blockbuster titles these days, so long as they're capable of emptying the mini-bar in a Microsoft-funded hotel room and describing their experience afterwards using the box artwork for guidance.

    I've therefore asked my elderly neighbour for a random number between 8 and 10, and if anyone wants to know what it is, send me 1.25p to simulate ad revenue and it's yours. Feel free to base your buying decision on that because it's as good as any of the worthless codswallop you'll find here.

  • Landmaster #1109 4 years ago

    Jus thought i'd fight back for the Wii and Zelda against all you Xbox "Fanboys" an post a comment saying how Shit the Halo series is :)

    You Xbox gamers seem to find it fun posting derogatory statements about anything Nintendo-related so i thought i'd dabble in the fun myself :D

    x x x

  • bakashinji #1110 4 years ago

    Kay, I basically signed in just for this so lets get what should be an entirely obtuse comment out of the way: Halo is in every way an average game, it has no invention and no imagination- to quote yahtzee "everything it does has been done before and better". Its multi player is in no important way changed from H2 (again a game which EG gave what used to be the honor of a 9/10 because the mp was just soooo good). As a high school convert gamer who suckled on the teet of counterstrike and team fortress classic I'm not sure I understand this but I'm guessing the rise of console gaming that has gone hand in hand with the dumming down of gaming, see: thief 3 or Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (or if you've actually played the originals, don't, as they will crush your your once happy, optimistic soul (see: me)) explains this (still with me after all the parenthesis?)
    I know its hard for some of you, try another Ritalin.
    So Halo 3, strictly mediocre- not half bad, but not half good either. I challenge anyone to find an aspect of the game that truly advances its genre or is even quantifiably better than any other game that already exists. Perfect games don't need excuses-shame on eurogamer for providing them after they've had such a stellar and self lauded record of limiting their perfect scores.

  • prolific8 #1111 4 years ago

    In two years when this is released on the PC, EG will give it a 7 or 8, even though it will be exactly the same game. Hype does terrible things to us all.

  • dmt2 #1112 4 years ago

    Certainly not a 10/10 game - Mario 64 is the only game I could say was perfect. However Halo 3 is exceptionally good. It may not progress the first person shooter format in any particular way, but it is huge fun and that's what counts. I just played Call of Duty 3 and now I'm playing through H3 on Legendary having played it through once on Heroic when it was released. Play an FPS like CoD3 and then play H3 and then you'll realise just how good it is, or alternatively just how poor CoD3 is. I don't do multiplayer as it is singularly unrewarding, but that's just my opinion. The original Halo called for astute tactics as does this edition. The post above regarding the Brutes on the ramp on the second level. There can be no doubt that this one bastard of an attack, but having thought it through, it was easier on Legendary than on Heroic.
    In short, its a great game.

  • Jim.Jupiter #1113 4 years ago

    First.

  • Wyrm #1114 4 years ago

    I got this with my new 360 I bought the other day.

    How this is worth 10/10 I have no idea. It's an 8 at best, I'd be inclined to give it a 7 myself. If you released it on PC, no-one would bat an eye-lid. It's no different to the previous two, the graphics are ugly and it plays like Unreal 2.

    lol @ Metacritic user rating - http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...
    Edited by 1 at 21/03/08 @ 17:01

  • anamenos #1115 4 years ago

    HALO 3 ROCKS

  • myke6699 #1116 4 years ago

    somebody's gettng paid to give good review.

  • mingster #1117 3 years ago

    last

  • sirtacos #1118 3 years ago

    I want this. I want this badly.
    Halo hate aside, it's easy to see why this franchise is loved so much. It does what it does brilliantly, with grandeur and little pretense. IMO the co-op campaign is the best thing about it.
    Once my housemates and I get a plasma TV and a 360, we're going to get this.
    Edited by 1 at 19/11/08 @ 22:54

  • kinggibbon #1119 3 years ago

    Another shameless overly generous review. Being an owner of Halo 3 i thought it was a normal FPS but a bit duller.

  • Shlomi1995 #1120 3 years ago

    'Let's talk about the series that held our attention for 6 years' - Eurogamer is SO biased.

    MGS4 got an 80, while those series held our attention for over 20 YEARS (!!!).
    Then we see inFAMOUS getting a 70, while Metacritic scores post an average of 85 (!!!).

    Very sad that EG has turned the biased way to act like an ignorant group of 15-year-old people throwing scores to whichever console they prefer.

  • Feanor #1121 11 months ago

    Just finished the single-player campaign on Heroic and boy is it average. 7/10 is being generous.