Gears of War 2

Cliff Bleszinski talks us through campaign, competitive and Horde.

If it's any consolation to Cliff Bleszinski, we're forever picking on developers at E3, so he shouldn't feel bad that our first question is whether he was actually playing Gears of War 2 at Microsoft's conference. For those who missed it, the demo began and Marcus advanced towards a smoke-drowned Jacinto skyline before the video feed stopped and reloaded, giving the impression we were actually watching a recording.

"We went to ghost cam," Bleszinski says. "What happened was that everything was working fine at rehearsal, and then when I went on stage and did my presentation and went to use my controller it timed out, and then I'm like 'Mother f***er!' So they went to the backup feed where they were playing in the back, and I had to act like I was playing it, even though I wasn't. I'm not going to lie."

Regardless, what we saw stuck in the mind. Whether you care about Gears' fiction or not, Jacinto in flames was an impressive canvas, and the refined Gears 2 cover-based gameplay mechanics and density of "water-cooler moments", in Bleszinski's phrase, sketched a compelling game across them. "We switch up the gameplay," he acknowledges, adding that the level we saw him play through (or not play through) was set three-quarters of the way through the campaign. "We'll have a new creature, a new weapon, a story scene, a new environment, something falls down and explodes... That's the game we wanted to make: something memorable moment to moment."

Gears 2 sees Marcus Fenix - liberated from prison to deliver a bomb into the heart of the subterranean Locust horde in the first game - and his buddy Dominic Santiago taking the fight to a resurgent adversary at the behest of humanity's ruler-by-default, military chief Chairman Prescott. Bleszinski promises we'll learn more about the characters' backgrounds - and the world's at large. "That was the big mistake with Gears 1," he points out. "People wanted to know more, they were thirsty for more of the universe. That's a good problem to have."

Gamers get to do this with some new weaponry - there's a flamethrower this time, and a mortar that allows you to fire projectiles in a parabolic arc similar to the grenade - and combat techniques. The meat-shield's the one we've all seen: Marcus grabs a Locust enemy and uses him as a mobile cover point. "You get a get-out-of-jail-free card with a grenade or a Torque Bow shot or a Boom shot," Bleszinski says of the meat-shield. "If you face the guy he'll absorb the shot and you'll hardly take any damage, and you just kind of cringe a bit and his body will explode into itty-bitty bits."

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It's the Jacinto skyline, Bleszinski says. "You're not going to get a lot out of me on that right now," he adds.

Complementary elements like chainsaw bayonet kills (now with button-mashing sub-game if you're up against an enemy armed with the same kit) and Active Reload (the timing-based reload mechanic that boosts ammo strength and combat tempo) also return, but there are other refinements to note. Campaign co-op is still two-player (they felt it was the right number, says Bleszinski), but checkpointing is more considered and the action branches a bit more - or less if you prefer. "We have informal splits where players can choose to go either way or they can stick together and goof around," we're told. "A little bit more open-ended environments." And if you were in the latter camp with the fiction, you can skip it. "Dom will chime in like 'Marcus, what was the--' and you're like 'Shut uuuup'."

But you're fighting a strengthened enemy, too. We've already seen that you'll face epic battlefields of many multiple adversaries, but there are new faces among them. The Flamethrower Boomer (surely Flaming Boomer) is a hefty enemy it's no fun getting caught next to, while the knee-biting Ticker enemies (dogs with time-bombs strapped to their backs) will threaten as the Wretches did in Gears 1, and other enemies toss grenades and sling grappling hooks up to your elevated positions to try and bring the fight to you. The Locust can even undermine your position, dragging your building refuge into the ground, presumably at set-piece moments - and one of the game's narrative preoccupations is whether Jacinto, humanity's last stand, is vulnerable to the Locust "sinkholes".

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The new flamethrower weapon sorts the men from the barbecue, and Gears 2 looks fierier in general. That enemy back there is a Reaver, by the way. He's misunderstood.

As we detailed in our Gears of War 2 preview earlier this year, there's a grander scale at work - the moving battles shown at Microsoft's San Francisco event in May supported by toppled buildings, epic draw distances and the tantalising prospect of riding the Brumak. As Marcus pointed out at the end of Bleszinski's conference demo, "If they can do it, why can't we?"

Sadly though, Bleszinski wasn't the only one who wasn't playing the single-player Gears of War 2 at E3, because despite hiring out the whole of the Ciudad restaurant in downtown LA for a Monday night showcase event, Microsoft only had multiplayer on hand unless you happened to be on the E3 awards judging panel. Fortunately, one of the key demos was the new five-player co-operative Horde mode - an alternative to four-player campaign co-op, which would have "messed with the storytelling" among other things, according to Bleszinski.

Horde sees a team of players working together to see off a huge number of enemies, who come in waves. Each player has the usual screen furniture plus some Horde stats in the top left - a health-bar for the Horde, which is replaced by a number once the amount of enemies remaining drops to a certain level - and at the end of a wave there are stats to pour over, noting who killed the most, team- and wave-specific scores and the impact of difficulty multiplier (something that's still being tweaked) on the points total. The object of the game is to last as long as possible.

Navigating specific levels (whether Horde is supported by all is still to be confirmed), the dynamic spawn-points for enemies initially drive you around the map, as ears prick to the noise of gunfire and grunts, but as enemy numbers thicken the pendulum swings the other way, and the team backs away instead. Signature elements like Seeder emergence holes and an avalanche that rips through one town centre will threaten stumbling retreats. It's not completely dynamic, though, because it's also meant for high-score play, and so the difficulty curve is rigid - enemies becoming more sophisticated in the seventh or eighth wave and thickening in numbers.

We're spoiled though, having played Valve's Left 4 Dead already, so Horde's simple sieges feel unrefined, with little to coax players together other than a desire to avoid mutual annihilation - and in the context of Monday's multiplayer event, it wasn't enough, every man playing for himself. It could reduce Horde to a fun, throwaway diversion rather than a long-term pursuit.

There are other modes though, and one we got to play was Guardian, which is an evolution of Assassination from Gears 1. As with Assassination, you're on a team with a leader and that guy is the other team's primary target. When he's taken out in Guardian, your team loses the ability to respawn, so you suddenly face an uphill battle to stay in the game. The pods were full all night and a few rounds of our own were bloody and amusing, benefitting greatly from bolt-ons like meat-shields and chainsaw duels. The other new modes we know about are Wingman (five teams of two) and Submission (CTF with an enemy as the flag).

'Gears of War 2' Screenshot 3

Marcus and Dom are the focus for campaign co-op, but familiar faces - like Cole Train - return along with new pals like Dizzy, a former Stranded who joins the COG to buy his family's security.

There are other refinements to multiplayer, too, and Bleszinski was on hand to clarify some of those. The Hammer of Dawn, for instance, now has a timer so that you can't just use it forever. Other knowing tweaks include the removal of the super damage boost on sniper rifle ammo following an Active Reload, which saw players firing into the air and reloading to follow with a single-shot kill - something deemed "unfair" in the original game. There's more elaborate blood trails and crawling around injured, too, seeking that helpful revival tap from a team-mate.

Meanwhile, Epic's keen that multiplayer isn't just the preserve of the dauntless hardcore this time, and so there are bots, and they're more than an afterthought. We're not told much about how they work (other than the fact Steve Polge, who designed the original Quake Reaper Bot mod, is working on them), but we know they're put to use Unreal Tournament-style. "We have a great mode, which is basically training grounds, in which you start off with you and a couple of bots against a few other bots and we basically walk you through the multiplayer experience," says Bleszinski, "so before you're unleashed into the wild of online gaming you can learn everything and have a chance of surviving."

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Sadly, Bleszinski doesn't tell us whether Marcus and Dom ever kiss.

It's a good idea in a sea of good ideas. A same-gen sequel, Gears of War 2 isn't always as glamorous as your Resident Evil 5s, Fable 2s and Final Fantasy XIIIs, but its E3 showing is extremely assured, and Bleszinski's not sweating on that release date, claiming that Epic has "a way of coming in perfectly under the wire and making everything button up nice".

"You'd be surprised in certain instances where just changing one number can make everything work, and it's just a matter of nudging," he says to us at one point. "Sometimes the pendulum swings one way, sometimes it swings the other way - same thing with weapon damage - so I'm confident we'll get it all ironed out." Either way, we'll certainly be doing what Cliff wasn't doing on Monday when 7th November rolls around, if only to find out whether Cole Train still sings at the end.

Gears of War 2 is due out exclusively for Xbox 360 on 7th November.

Comments (43) Latest comment 4 years ago

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  • Razz #1 4 years ago

    You lucky so and so's!
  • Dizzy #2 4 years ago

    "We're spoiled though, having played Valve's Left 4 Dead already"

    Logical since this is the central core gameplay of L4D ;)

    The E3 demo gameplay was absolutely amazing... don't think this game can be beat for XMas.
  • Spanky #3 4 years ago

    I hate you Cliffy B! Fo shu mofocopter!
  • Bartacus #4 4 years ago

    This game looks so good.
  • Xerx3s #5 4 years ago

    Want!

    Machomachoman! I want to be a machoman!
  • Widge #6 4 years ago

    ^^^
    always makes me think of Addams Family Values!
  • Darren #7 4 years ago

    I'm only looking forward to playing the campaign solo and in splitscreen co-op because I just didn't like the online modes at all, I found them dull but then I'm not a big fan of online shooters anyway so that's no surprise. I'm expecting the campaign to be more of the same but a little grander in scale and a little prettier but that'll suit me fine so long as the last level is better than the lacklustre one in the first Gears. A decent story and script would be nice this time round too. ;)
  • asphaltcowboy #8 4 years ago

    Awesome, can't wait! Sounds really good and I reckon Horde mode could be a lot of fun (/is reminded of marines survival in that MP mode of AvP). The main thing I hope they change this time around in multiplayer is ranked achievements: get rid of them! CoD4 did it the right way!
  • Dizzy #9 4 years ago

    BTW L4D is coming out on the same day... so we can have our cake AND eat it too :)
  • Weezer #10 4 years ago

    I have all three consoles and if I could only buy one game this year, this would be it. As far as I'm concerned there's nothing that has me as excited as this. Loved the first one to bits; I think this one should be better on every single level.

    Here's hoping for a GoW3 in November 2010.
  • Dizzy #11 4 years ago

    >Here's hoping for a GoW3 in November 2010.

    That is probably the plan.. or GoW as launch on the new XBox in 2011 ;)
    Edited by 1 at 16/07/08 @ 12:21
  • MikeN #12 4 years ago

    CliffyB : "I had to act like I was playing it, even though I wasn't".

    Why do presenters insist on doing this? Would it really have been a disaster to simply say "sorry guys my controller's dead - here's some footage we played earlier?"
  • Skooch #13 4 years ago

    I love Gears, and not really for the single-player/campaign, the MP is KILLA! I played the first Gears through twice, on hard and then insane. But I played the online MP a lot. I am hoping that they pay careful consideration to the achievements, they should not underestimate how important these are to a lot of the hardcore fans. Whether you agree with achievements or not - a lot of people play to get them. They need to ditch the weapon achievements of Gears 1 in favour of team-based achievements; this will help the online a lot and move people away from individual weapons awards towards great team play.

    Can't wait to play this!
  • andromeda #14 4 years ago

    swearing won't make you any tougher looking Cliffy.
  • APHIZM #15 4 years ago

    "epic draw distances"

    Umm... what? The Gears 2 environment is a sky box past middle distance. Play Crackdown to remind yourselves of what an epic draw distance is.
  • BobsUncle #16 4 years ago

    I think I played the GoW campaign through 4 times, Awesome. MP can suck my hairy beanbag though. Full of American twats.
  • Dizzy #17 4 years ago

    >The Gears 2 environment is a sky box past middle distance

    Played it???

    Epic seems to be able to do it in UT3 no?
  • mattigan #18 4 years ago

    They have already said that all the achievements are obtainable in either single or multiplayer modes.
  • asphaltcowboy #19 4 years ago

    They have already said that all the achievements are obtainable in either single or multiplayer modes.

    Awesome! Thanks! (Don't happen to have a link do you?)
  • GlassMoon #20 4 years ago

    Cant wait for this, single player should be awesome but the multiplayer doesn't really interest me
  • andywilkie35 #21 4 years ago

    @ Darren

    Spot on mate, i didn't see what all the fuss was about with the multiplayer. i played the campaign co-op through each difficulty level and loved it! and i agree that Act 5 wasn't the best ending. Its good to hear that they're taking the story really seriously this time, i.e. making it one that you really feel compelled to see through to the end
  • patchbox360 #22 4 years ago

    'Gears of War 2 isn't always as glamorous as your Resident Evil 5s'

    WHAT?! lay off the crack m8.

    resident evil 5 has the dumbest zombie AI i have ever seen also ugly, ugly character animation - its a revamped resident evil 1 implementing resident evil 4 gameplay, to conclude it is same old herbs, same old ideas with new graphics.
  • miiiguel #23 4 years ago

    "They have already said that all the achievements are obtainable in either single or multiplayer modes. "
    woot!
  • messiahtj #24 4 years ago

    "Gears of War 2 isn't always as glamorous as your Resident Evil 5s, Fable 2s and Final Fantasy XIIIs"

    Lol, lol, lol and more lol at the idiotic editors at EG!!

    Now that FF XIII is coming to 360 the game its glamourous but when it was a PS3 exclusive all the time it was " we'll see about it" " We'll see if this isnt another CGI and not in-game???

    This place its surely full of shit.
  • Sub-kamikaze #25 4 years ago

    Guys, I think they just meant that it doesn't seem as glamorous because it's already had an iteration on this hardware. Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Fable, etc, have not. That's all. No need for hostility...
    Edited by 1 at 16/07/08 @ 17:38
  • BillyBrush #26 4 years ago

    Maybe what they mean is it gets labelled as shooty aliens adolescence and a few of those games don't, even though the characters feature purple haircuts...

    Cannot wait personally, the old ba da da da da music really does work well for a good bit of satisfying action and the graphics of the first have yet to be bettered imo...personally i would take more of the same but it does seem they've done a bit of work on the amount of stuff onscreen and destructable stuff, should make one of the best games out there even better...people can hate on em but Epic, Monolith those are the hawt studios right now
  • BTBAM #27 4 years ago

    "Gears of War 2 isn't always as glamorous as your Resident Evil 5s, Fable 2s and Final Fantasy XIIIs'



    Everyone who misunderstood this is a fucking imbecile.
  • patchbox360 #28 4 years ago

    'Everyone who misunderstood this is a fucking imbecile'

    then explain how resident evil 5 is more glamorous than gears 2 jackass
  • messiahtj #29 4 years ago

    "Gears of War 2 isn't always as glamorous as your Resident Evil 5s, Fable 2s and Final Fantasy XIIIs'

    Everyone who misunderstood this is a fucking imbecile.

    Lol, noobs these days. Hope ignore poster doesnt fail.
  • Widge #30 4 years ago

    Sigh, Resi 5 is more glamourous than Gears 2 because of the precursors that you are benchmarking against. Resi 5 is light years ahead of Resi 4, Gears 2 not so. Hence the comment from the dev that same generation sequels don't always have the impact. Like Halo 2, lots of meh directed at that by some quarters, still a good game though.
  • Scimarad #31 4 years ago

    Really enjoyed playing this..er..the first one...on co-op. The only thing I didn't really like was that it was a little short.
    Edited by 1 at 16/07/08 @ 20:11
  • Lin #32 4 years ago

    Hooray, another easy shooter with lots of bloom. Is this what PC gaming is dying for?
  • BillyBrush #33 4 years ago

    Resi 5 is light years ahead of Resi 4, Gears 2 not so

    I wonder why someone might say that...still what about Dead Rising eh, that was light years ahead of Resi4, and Resi 5!

  • Anthony_UK #34 4 years ago

    Loved the first game, one of the only games since Halo that i've actually played through multiple times.

    But am I not the only one who thought the multiplayer sucked balls? it just seemed so random,full of people rolling everywhere. Perhaps I didn't give it chance to click, but unloading a full clip into someone only for the to sprint through your fire and chainsaw you/shotgun you in one go often made me turn it off in disgust.
  • onyxbox #35 4 years ago

    looks like I'll be dusting off the Xbox this November (hope it still works)

    ;-)

    This and L4D look amazing.

  • Xerx3s #36 4 years ago

    Widge: You completely failed to make any point whatsoever with lining up a bunch of non facts..
  • Widge #37 4 years ago

    My work here is complete
  • Skooch #38 4 years ago

    "They have already said that all the achievements are obtainable in either single or multiplayer modes."

    @ mattigan - can't find this anywhere on the web - are you sure? Link or I'm calling shemattigans on this claim.
  • penhalion #39 4 years ago

    Looking forward to single player. Actually looking forward to deadspace more than this now though.
  • captain_MAXIMUS #40 4 years ago

    This looks so good you can really see the advancements made to the unreal engine
  • Mugwum Verified Operations Director, Eurogamer Network #41 4 years ago

    ""epic draw distances" Umm... what? The Gears 2 environment is a sky box past middle distance. Play Crackdown to remind yourselves of what an epic draw distance is."

    You're right - I was referring (badly) to how well they have handled the skybox. It's extremely impressive.
  • Squamy #42 4 years ago

    This is looking extremely awesome!
  • mukki #43 4 years ago

    Yes!!!

    man, Gears 1 being a launch title is still one of the best looking games on the xbox 360!

    what does this say about the rest of the game developers....
    ok being a bit unfair but really...

    want Gears 2 now!